Mark Thompson submits this story:
Now that we have a majority Conserviative government in Canada and the past history of Liberal obfuscation is being erased, the Canadian and the broader world public is now getting a chance to hear the truth on climate issues.
The video link provided is two hours of testimony before a Canadian Senate Committee from December 15, 2011. Most who have a skeptical viewpoint will have already heard of some or all of the four presenters.
The presentations and follow-up questions are both excellent! Interesting to note the avoidance of some of the alarmist bullying seen in some of the U.S. Senate hearings from the likes of Clinton and Boxer. Of course, you’ll see the odd Liberal senator make the typical noxious commentary around thousands of scientists and ‘consensus’ but it doesn’t matter, they are only looking increasingly foolish.
View it all here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMQk-q8SpBU&feature=related
Before I began my research on Global Warming / Climate Change, I used to just ignore any articles labeled “environment”, or derivatives of “climate change”. For example I skipped the entire Vancouver Sun Saturday issue that helmed David Suzuki as the editor for that days entire paper. I have been a reader of the Vancouver sun since I was a teenager over 30 years ago.
It seems ironic that before the climate change scam, I found the Vancouver Sun to be an informative news paper, regaling its readers with stories from behind the Iron Curtain, about the injustices communist governments would commit against its citizens, but today the paper acts like the propaganda arm of a former Soviet Union type of entity.
After I began my research, for a while there I would read every article about the environment or climate change with an amazement as to the claims made in these articles when I knew better. And now for the most part am back to ignoring such articles. Unfortunately I can not say the same for the CBC and CTV news. I have found that if there is even a hint that a climate change topic might be mentioned, I can feel my heart pounding. Have I developed a phobia? Any way I have solved this problem by no longer watching those stations. Problem solved. Sad though as I have watch the CBC news since I was a child, long before even Linda Frum hosted the show, as far back to recall watching the daily broadcasts of Vietnam war casualties, a war perhaps an order of magnitude more costly than the Iran / Afghanistan wars in terms of comparison to the relative sizes of the economy of the day.
The National Post has been a life saver for me, for without it, I would probably consider the whole world mad, because you see, it is so blatantly obvious that the Global Warming / Climate Change science is just activism and politics. The National Post is also where I was first informed about climateaudit.org and the work of Steve McIntyre and Ross McKitrick.
When I finally began my online research a few months after the first Climategate emails and during the Vancouver Winter Olympics, when there was nothing good to watch on TV, I was initially mislead because I came across the alarmist web sites first, such as realclimate. I won’t here tell of my long journey to the truth, which I am sure most WUWT readers have had similar experiences of their own, as it is a complex and book length journey. And I still have miles to go before I sleep.
Good stuff. It prompted me to do this…..
Dear Neil, (Parish – MP, Conservative, Tiverton and Honiton)
Good to see you at the Hunt meeting in Tiverton on Boxing Day. A splendid turnout I think you would agree.
As a constituent I have one issue that you, as my MP, must address in 2012. To my mind, it is of historical importance that some person of integrity grasps this particular nettle and starts to bring it out into the public domain. If there was any issue upon which to make your name then this is it.
I urge you to watch the following video of a sub-committee meeting of the Canadian Government and, more importantly, circulate it amongst your fellow representatives.
It is far too important for you not so to do and I would, personally, be of the opinion that you had failed in your duty as my Parliamentary Representative if you do not.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/01/01/canadian-senate-testimony-skeptic-side-now-being-heard-in-canadian-politics/#more-54041
I fully expect a response from your office in this matter. Moreover, I expect you to reply one way or the other, to the specific questions stated as follows:
1. Have you watched the video in its entirety?
2. Have you circulated its content to all other MP’s
3. What is your personal opinion?
That aside, I look forward to bumping into you some time in 2012 and particularly at the opening of my partner’s new business in Newport Street, Tiverton around the beginning of March. I’ll buy you a drink. (Consider that as an invitation I should be grateful that you accept – details to follow).
Looking forward to your reply as a matter of urgency.
Best regards
The day will come when David Suzuki is exposed for his role in this GW consensus.
I hope it is done soon and that he has a chance to make amends than to have this shame and infamy unfairly borne by his children and grandchildren.
It is nice that people in (Canadian) power are being exposed to climate skepticism, but I doubt many minds will be changed – their careers depend on it.
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Well their careers depend on getting it right – either way.
If they are the one’s that are associated with costing the public billions on unwarranted costs, they will get it in the neck.
However, what they will first do is blame the scientists for telling them lies. The scientists made me do it.
Transcript will eventually be available on committee site (where video is also available – fast forward approx. 20 minutes to get to start of meeting) but it will probably be a few weeks (latest one currently available is for Dec. 7). In the meantime, Ross McKitrick’s testimony is available via his blog: http://www.rossmckitrick.com/uploads/4/8/0/8/4808045/mckitrick_testimony_dec15_2011.pdf
Ross McKitrick, your intro was one of the most powerful, cedible and well-crafted summaries I have had the pleasure to hear. If only you could be invited to Australia and tell our Senate the same…….
To the extent that you have affected Canadian policy, my most heartfelt thanks.
That is ‘credible’ with an ‘r’. Wireless keyboards need fresh batteries.
Great stuff – give Professor Ross McKitrick a medal, scrap the UN and let Canada lead the world.
Consensus be damned! The house of cards is beginning to fall.
Just one thing Ross – a precautionary carbon tax? Please NEVER EVER give governments another avenue for taxing the public. They will NEVER EVER give it back – even if Canada freezes over.
Canada is leading the way in the West. Goog on them since qall the West will benefit from this.
India and China (and others) are rightly protesting at the EU tax on avaiation emissions and refusing to pay these.
Gradually, the word is coming out. The Financial crisis in the West will speed this up since quite frankly the West has run out of money and is unable to pay the green bill. People are beginning to realise the harm that has already been done to industry and one reason why it will now be that much more difficult to have a manufacturing based led recovery; jobs and industry have been permanently lost to this fiasco and those in power are realising that a balance needs to be struck if industry is to compete with the rising BRICS.
Having presented evidence from time to time to UK governmental select committees, it appears to me that this hearing is in exactly the same format as UK governmental processes. They tend to be less combative than the US format and are more likely to produce useful information on which to base legislation. However it depends on who you call with regards to what answers you get.
Senator Grant Mitchell unveils an new tactic from the warmist politician’s play book, “The Inverse-Gore”. Whereas “The Gore” play is to simply make a speech/statement and then refuse to answer any questions. “The Inverse-Gore” play is to refuse to ask any questions and then simply make a statement. After the four presentations from the invited skeptical scientists/academics, at 53min, he demurs when ask to ask the first question. Then near the end in trying to be last to speak, at 1hr51min30sec, he again refuses to ask a question, but does manage to make a nasty pernicious little statement.
Thank you Mark for posting this, the testimonies by the four professors are very instructive and most interesting.
The video, in English & French is also posted on the The Standing Senate Committee on Energy, the Environment and Natural Resources
http://senparlvu.parl.gc.ca/Guide.aspx?viewmode=4&categoryid=-1&eventid=7941&Language=E#
source: http://www.canadianenergyfuture.ca/?cat=68
Home Page : http://www.canadianenergyfuture.ca/
Actually, I thought the testimony by Ian Clark was brilliant… allowing the attending politicians to be able to readily understand the catastrophic man-made globe warming and climate scare as presented by the IPCC in contrast with the real science. Brilliant!
Interesting the Vice Chairman (apparently the only one very pro AGW) kept his questions to the end, trying to wrap up with a voice of disagreement.
Didn’t really work in his favour, the discussion continued, and he just appeared a bit spiteful (IMHO).
This was an interesting panel to open minds that were ready to be opened. Veizer is a well funded, well published and well respected scientist. He is not easily dismissed as the guy is gushing with credibility. If he says it all about the water vapour as the forcing greenhouse gas then I just don’t understand why there isn’t more discussion about deforestation and its impacts on water vapour. We have lost around 7% of the worlds forests in the last 50 years. This could be an anthropogenic effect that is a driver along with celestial driver of variation in galactic cosmic rays.
Where is the data that proves CO2 is the primary driver of global temperature? Of course, there is no real data and there is no causal link. The correct question to ask of the IPCC is: is it true that you will not advance a hypothesis of cycical climate change because it would dry up your funding and destroy an industry that controls a proposed UN-administered fund of $US100 billion per annum? CAGW is not about science, but about the corruptibility of human nature. Canada is providing the intellect through McKitrick and Laframboise to save us from the carpetbaggers of the UN.
Thankyou Canada
However it should be noted that other governments in the west are just as aware of the fraudulent nature of the whole AGW enterprise, it suits them however to go along as the revenues now raised on the back of environmental/green issues is so vast it cannot be lost
WHO CARES IT IS NOT…… NOT BEING BROADCAST IN CANADIAN NEWS!!!!!!!
Yes I am yelling. I am sick and tired of people on these blogs getting all excited about nothing.
The idiot on the street still believes in GW and the news here is shockingly so biased towards it that no other side is broadcast. My god have none of you talked to your family and friends and neighbours over the holidays. Like talking to a wall.
A Quebec company lost a contract because the British company it dealt with was upset with our politicians pulling out of the Kyoto accord. The news presented was all about how we were getting screwed by our politicians because they are skeptics.
Until every moron on the street who votes understands the truth we will be forced to spend money on useless gov’t programs and worse.
Lets hope 2012 is the year some very strong action is taken against the AGW movement.
Well I just sat rivetted to this video. Brilliant presentations. McKitrick I thought was outstanding and good on Canada for having the nerve to allow these guys to be heard.
A lesson for the Australian Labor Party whose very existence relies on the Greens.
If you listen to the end, you’ll see it had little effect on the know-it-all senators who already believe the world will be destroyed if we don’t act within five years.
Geoff Smith,
The main stream media may not broadcast things like this hearing, but once videos and transcripts are on the internet, those of us who actively engage our various elected officials use them in our correspondence. I highly recommend we all do this.
This is where Greenbusiness, I mean Greenpeace, are spending their millions: On Italian television, Greenpeace are showing a paid commercial consisting of a sequence of videos of UFO’s that at first are seen to be stationary and then suddenly speed away into space. The commercial ends with a question and an answer:
Q: Why are aliens leaving our planet so fast?
A: Because our planet is becoming uninhabitable.
Just google Greenpeace UFO commercial…. Just plain stupid.
Those of us who are of the Canuckistan Clan are proud to have our current PM and government in place to push back against the fear mongering, eco grifters & greenie looney crowd.
PM Harper is on record years ago as recognizing Kyoto as a “socialist ponzi scheme”, so we should expect no less.
roger samson says:January 2, 2012 at 4:47 am
[…] We have lost around 7% of the worlds forests in the last 50 years. This could be an anthropogenic effect that is a driver along with celestial driver of variation in galactic cosmic rays.
Satellite data since 1998 seems to say otherwise:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/03/24/the-earths-biosphere-is-booming-data-suggests-that-co2-is-the-cause-part-2/
Canada could be the first industrious (I prefer to use this word than ‘industrialised’) country to improve its economy by leaps and bounds. All it needs to do now is remove all green subsidies and let the renewables just survive or die by simply competing in the market. Kill all subsidies and the economy will flourish.
The EU will just have to crash, Euro and all, before it realises it’s own folly.