I always get a kick out of climate protest marchers, because these rent-a-rants generally make complete fools of themselves, and the process is very entertaining to watch. For example, this person doesn’t seem to understand what the canister on a gas mask does.
That frame is from a video posted by the 350.org McKibbenites who hope to have a big “climate march” on Sept 21st. So where do they shoot their publicity stunt for maximum effect? Times Square, New York City, surrounded by giant energy consuming screens, marquees, and billboards all powered by…you guessed it…fossil fuels. Watch the video:
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How much energy is used in Times Square?
So just how much electricity is required to keep Times Square running? Well, it is a difficult question to answer because Times Square, which stretches for about five blocks along Broadway, is actually part of a larger power grid which also encompass the entire Theater District that runs several blocks in every direction from Times Square.
At peak usage, the New York power company, Con Edison, estimates that power consumption in the Theater District is 161 megawatts of electricity being used at once, with Times Square accounting for a decent chunk of that power consumption.
Source: http://theworldbyroad.com/2013/07/the-power-to-light-up-times-square/
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Here is what these oblivious 350.org clowns say about their video:
On Wednesday July 30, we publicly announced the People’s Climate March – the largest march demanding action on climate change in the history of the planet.
The march will be on September 21st, 2014, when world leaders are coming to New York City for a UN summit on the climate crisis. UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon is urging governments to support an ambitious global agreement to dramatically reduce global warming pollution.
With our future on the line and the whole world watching, we’ll take a stand to bend the course of history. We’ll take to the streets to demand the world we know is within our reach: a world with an economy that works for people and the planet; a world safe from the ravages of climate change; a world with good jobs, clean air and water, and healthy communities.
Join us on September 21st.
http://peoplesclimate.org/march
Shouldn’t they be holding their march in China?
Ban fossil fuels? Do these brilliant light bulb loons understand (and/or care) what will happen to the nation’s economy if that were to happen? What would happen to our quality of life, our standard of living? Not only are these people not in left field, they aren’t even in the ballpark.
If ignorance was blessed, these people would be saints.
Yeah. And if the climate thing doesn’t work we can shut ‘er down because of the ebola pandemic! Whatever it takes to hobble the energy hogs.
Clearly Anthony, the canister is filled with kool-aid.
…..BTW, what exactly is “environmental racism?”
Got to love all the oil and coal used to make their cloths signs and mine the minerals to produce and share this vidio. Then there are the ones with gold teath and jewalry. LOL
“ bend the course of history … “ To paraphrase a line from North by Northwest: ‘I’m afraid they’re already doing that’.
Do you thin they will take the subway to go home?
“It’s about jobs”–what have they got against jobs? Watermelon green policies have crashed the world’s economies and slashed jobs drastically.”
“It’s about economic racism” (or ecological racism). Yeah? I have a whole book on how CAGW activism disproportionately hurts the Black race (in America).
It’s about respiratory problems–so they want to cut carbon dioxide, which probably assists all pulmonary difficulties. At any rate, preemie babies are incubated in 7% CO2 (175 times atm) to help their lungs develop.
There’s an expression about cutting off your nose to spite your face….
I love the way these loonies think EVERYTHING gets better when fossil fuels disappear – good jobs, clean air , healthy communities, probably better dental hygiene, etc . You’d think these folks are living in Bangladesh.
“We’ll take to the streets to demand the world we know is within our reach: a world with an economy that works for people and the planet; a world safe from the ravages of climate change; a world with good jobs, clean air and water, and healthy communities.”
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What exactly are the ravages of climate change?
No really, what are they?
Better crop yields or something……
Well, activists have been successful in essentially shutting down nuclear energy, and largely blocking all further hydro energy projects. But I expect their attempt to shut down the hydrocarbon energy industry is a bridge too far.
To show us their alternative and radical change of society the march should be held in North Korea so we all could see how they want our life’s to be?
I wonder how they all managed to get time off work to attend….
oh yeah, that’s right….
From 350.org
Quite a hodgepodge of organizations scrolled past my quick scan of the participants in this fool’s parade, and quite a bit of work – and expense – getting this rabble of knuckleheads to the Big Apple. where they’ll make their stand to bend the course of history, and demand the world they know is within their reach, or something like that.
These fools will cry and wring their hands when they no longer have iphones, ipads, cars, heat, electricity and they will still find a way in their deluded little brains to blame conservatives, capitalism or even fossil fuels.
Religious zealotry knows no reason.
“ravages of climate change” ??
How about the ravages of dangerous morons like Bill McKibben and pals
North Korea, aka “Bill McKibben’s Greenie Paradise” —
http://photoblog.nbcnews.com/_news/2011/12/19/9564314-satellites-document-north-koreas-dark-ages
I keep coming back to my limerick about CO2 and the solution.
What then is this “Carbon Pollution”?
A sinister, evil collusion?
CO2, it is clean,
Makes for growth, makes it green,
A transfer of wealth, a solution.
http://lenbilen.com/2014/02/22/co2-the-life-giving-gas-not-carbon-pollution-a-limerick-and-explanation/
And let us not forget the religious message from a couple of years ago from 350.org:
http://lenbilen.com/2014/02/22/a-religious-message-from-1010global-org-and-a-limerick/
with the accompanying limerick:
On this little movie I’ll hold my applause,
exploding of children just for “a good cause”,
for it lowers the bar,
have we now sunk this far?
It’s freedom of speech, the establishment clause.
I wonder what they think is doing the filtering in that gas mask …
“Activated carbon is carbon produced from carbonaceous source materials such as nutshells, coconut husk, peat, wood, coir, lignite, coal, and petroleum pitch. It can be produced by one of the following processes:
Physical reactivation: The source material is developed into activated carbons using hot gases. This is generally done by using one or a combination of the following processes:
Carbonization: Material with carbon content is pyrolyzed at temperatures in the range 600–900 °C, in absence of oxygen (usually in inert atmosphere with gases like argon or nitrogen)
Activation/Oxidation: Raw material or carbonized material is exposed to oxidizing atmospheres (oxygen or steam) at temperatures above 250 °C, usually in the temperature range of 600–1200 °C.
Chemical activation: Prior to carbonization, the raw material is impregnated with certain chemicals. The chemical is typically an acid, strong base, or a salt [11] (phosphoric acid, potassium hydroxide, sodium hydroxide, calcium chloride, and zinc chloride 25%). Then, the raw material is carbonized at lower temperatures (450–900 °C). It is believed that the carbonization / activation step proceeds simultaneously with the chemical activation[clarification needed]. Chemical activation is preferred over physical activation owing to the lower temperatures and shorter time needed for activating material.”
I think they should all go north of 55 and work in a winter wood lot for a couple of seasons.
When I first heard of this planned march, I suggested an alternative. I proposed a world-wide picnic with the hot coals of a wood fire or a grill with your choice of fuel. I’ll use charcoal. Ribs and corn ears will be on my grill. Or maybe salmon over an open fire. Could do both.
In the past, both Tim Blair and E. M. Smith (“Church of the Holy Carbon”) have promoted alternatives to, I think Earth Day, but maybe just ignored it this year. All the skeptical blogs should promote a day of fun and like minded folks can send links to pictures or post videos of their activities.
The 21st is a Sunday so I suggest starting on Saturday about mid-morning – finish when you must.
What would it cost to release 1000 radio collar-wearing (so they can be recovered later for stew) lemmings into the crowd march?
The People’s Climate March — oooo powerful name. Summons such mighty imagery — like the famous WWE wrestler who called himself The People’s Choice. And The People’s Republic of Korea. And The People’s Court. Remember, don’t take climate into your own hands …
How much does it cost to rent one of those billboards for a few hours? Wouldn’t it be a hoot to have global temps from RSS for the last 18 years in the background during their march? Oooh, I’d donate generously to make that happen. Perhaps some scrolling quotes from Climategate to go along with it?
Oh, wow… just….wow…
In the video, I heard someone use the new meme…, “Environmental racism”….
What the heck is that?
You know the left has lost both its marbles and “The Cause”, when they have to stir up the masses with stupid propaganda phrases like “Environmental racism”…
My, how far the US has fallen… “Environmental racism”… Jeez… I want to puke.
I also find it astounding that labor unions will also be supporting the “the largest ‘environmental’ demonstration eva to save the planet”…. Oh, my…
Don’t labor unions realize that EPA’s insane rules, regulations and mandates have helped destroy 10 million high-paying factory jobs by adding mostly unneeded and unwarranted compliance costs to US goods, thereby making them uncompetitive and forcing manufactures to move their production to other countries?
No wonder only 6% of the private sector is still unionized. Private-sector workers are FINALLY starting to realize labor unions destroy jobs. Public-sector unionization is, of course, skyrocketing (currently 35.3% of public-sector unionized) to offset the huge loss of private-sector union members…. That’s insane…
And so it goes…..until liberty and reason are restored….
David Hoffer
Great idea. Could cover a lot of ground over a few hours.
“We’ll take to the streets to demand the world we know is within our reach: a world with an economy that works for people and the planet; a world safe from the ravages of climate change; a world with good jobs, clean air and water, and healthy communities.”
Asking for products that work, are inexpensive, and are plentiful to be banned, and asking for forced purchases of green products, is really really daft. It is not healthy and the jobs will not be good. For example, how many of these high school students like to spend their summer bent over weeding for hundreds of hours, doing what one or two tractor applications of herbicides can do in several hours, so that lovely green activists can have organic food? I do not want food which uses hand weeding, and weeding is not a good job, and yields ruined by weeds does not make a healthy community.
Given their predeliction for rewriting history before its happened, Bending the course of history probably indicates that Wikipedia has already an entry (pending Thermageddonist approval) ready to deploy.
It may indicate that in the future, all History will be bent, or perhaps all Historians are Bent, no, not that trash talk kind of bent,….hockey stick kinda bent.
Then again, it may indicate that History courses are bent, as in, bent out of shape.
Then again, it could be a reference to Michael Jacksons ninth studio album ‘History’, perhaps its an unreleashed track called ‘Bending the Course’, could be a reference to ‘Staying the Course’, only not.
Not staying the Course, maybe what many of these protestors are doing, by not attending that History Course they signed up for.
I geuss bending the course of history means bending history back into the stone age.
As for Climate racism, Climate taxing formerly Caucasian Western nations for an imaginary climate problem, in order to disasemble Western civilisation, seems like a very racist thing to do.
actually they are the environmental racists as they dont want the (mainly) coloured people of the third world to have a decent standard of living and cheap electricity
There really isn’t any irony here, or obliviousness, or hypocrisy. Just naivety: they want our way of live, all the electrical benefits, all the instant power options, but with a “green” energy.
The committed eco-green doesn’t understand or accept – belief in unlimited technological progress is, perhaps, ironical – that wind, solar, tide, wave energy and conservation can’t replace more than a small portion of our national and international energy use. At a stretch only large scale nuclear power – fission, not fusion – can replace fossil fuels and only where large demands are concentrated geographically, but this is a notion to which they have blinders.
At a maximum the committed eco-green will accept that SOME limitations on our lifestyle is needed – but also philosophically warranted within the narrative of reduced consumption, reduced competition for resources and reduced self-image through acquisition. The reduction, however, is not in Patagonia gear or tricked out Jeep that gets you into the wilderness but in the SUV that carts around the suburban family they grew up in. Organic honey but honey, nevertheless.
Overall the 350.org follower is a shallow thinker and an optimist found in Darwinian non-success stories. He loves humanity in the abstract but is disgusted with it in the personal.
slowly but surely, the hypocrisy of the faux “green” groups will be exposed!
4 Aug: Salon.com: Lindsay Abrams: The country’s largest environmental group is profiting from oil drilling
The Nature Conservancy could have done more to keep an oil company off its land, Naomi Klein argues
Why did the Nature Conservancy, the world’s largest environmental NGO, permit an oil and gas company to drill a well on land it pledged to protect?
The disturbing allegation — verified to the New York Times by the green organization — is revealed in Naomi Klein’s forthcoming book on climate change. In 2007, Klein reveals, the Nature Conservancy allowed the company to drill a well on land that had been set aside to protect the critically endangered Attwater’s prairie chicken, and has since been profiting from the operations. It’s a decision that the group’s framing as the regrettable outcome of a tricky dilemma, but which raises questions about its commitment to conservation…
Klein’s book isn’t out until September, but according to the Times, she uses the Nature Conservancy revelation to raise larger questions about the ways in which corporate influence might be affecting environmental groups’ ability to fight climate change; and the Nature Conservancy is tighter with corporations than most. That can lead to scandal — in the wake of the Gulf Oil Spill, the Washington Post revealed that the organization had accepted nearly $10 million in cash and land contributions over the years from BP — and it can lead to a crisis of faith. The Times ends with a quote from Klein that cuts right to the heart of that: “If the largest environmental organization in the world can’t figure out how to stop pumping oil and gas,” she asks, “how are they going to help the rest of us figure it out?”
http://www.salon.com/2014/08/04/the_countrys_largest_environmental_group_is_profiting_from_oil_drilling/
in the meantime, though, they will do their best to increase fuel poverty until there’s a backlash from those who suffer power outages or cannot afford to pay their energy bills:
4 July: Reuters: British government to amend subsidy rules to exclude old coal plants
The British government will amend the rules of its proposed energy capacity market to exclude long-term subsidies for ageing coal plants, it said on Monday, relenting to pressure from environmental campaign groups…
The government plans to introduce a capacity market by the end of this year to ensure there is enough electricity-generating capacity available at all times to meet demand.
The capacity market will offer all capacity providers – new and existing power stations and electricity storage operators – predictable revenue from capacity payments. In return, they have to deliver energy when needed or face penalties.
But the scheme has drawn criticism from green groups for allowing pollutant-heavy coal plants to apply for long-term payments…
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/british-government-amend-subsidy-rules-112751867.html
I once saw a protest against oil that used a giant black plastic sheet to “simulate” a spill and they had hazmat stuff on. Guess where that comes from?
They must think that plastic grows on trees…
I think the suggestion for a barbeque on their action day is the best idea yet. September 21 is near enough the Equinox. So program it as an Equinox Party, and when it is well under way, you can let the cat out of the bag. The food is being cooked by charcoal, or if you have an electric or gas barbeque, the heat comes from burning fossil fuels. The steaks were transported in trains or trucks burning fossil fuel. The sausages were from meat minced by machines using fossil fuel, and both were kept fresh by refrigerators powered by fossil fuel. And many if not most of your guests came by car powered by follisl fuel. And if people are drinking beer or sparking wine, the bubbles are the dreaded Carbon Dioxide. The salads were planted by machines, and harvested by machines, and brought to you by machines, and you washed them in water pumped to your house by machines, all powered by burning fossil fuel (except if you are lucky enough to line in NY when the power came from ConEd).
You can think up a few more items. Celebrate mankind’s use of coal, oil and gas and the production of carbon dioxide to get the earth a bit greener, and hopefully, a bit warmer.
” Matthew says:
August 4, 2014 at 10:48 pm
I once saw a protest against oil that used a giant black plastic sheet to “simulate” a spill and they had hazmat stuff on. Guess where that comes from?
They must think that plastic grows on trees…”
You can make plastic from corn…but then again, most of that is going into the gas tank.
Fornication Under Consent of the King
I’m not a fan of 350.0rg, but Times Square doesn’t seem such a bad place to hold a march. I’m sure the world could survive pretty happily without all those fancy screens.
“The whole world will be watching” I think not. These people are so self centred. I think they really believe the Earth revolves around them.
I think they believe what they’ve read in newsletters and postings by Big Green organizations and greenie bloggers to the effect that green energy is a big success in the EU and is ramping up rapidly world-wide. A lot of this false impression is due to the misuse of nameplate capacity numbers as a proxy for actual production numbers, and the failure to account for the indirect and other hidden costs of renewables. Also, by burdening non-renewables with speculative indirect health and environmental costs.
Terrific! How about one of those electronic billboards cycling thru these:
1. A flip-flopped hockey stick, looking like this /””, to reflect the current Plateau in the temperature trendline. The caption would be, “Who’s in Denial Now?”
The stick would be transparently overlaid on a graph of the running mean of GASTA (Global Average Surface Temperature Anomaly), averaged from five sources. Flipping over the hockey stick turns the tables on our opponents in a clever and memorable way.
2. Left-side text: “97%”
Right-side text: “WRONG”
Center graphic: the IPCC’s early-draft graphic of its four predictions vs. the observed Global Average Surface Temperature Anomaly (GASTA), showing its line near the bottom of the 95% confidence envelope of its projections. (There should be bold text: “95% confidence envelope.”)
3. Caption: “Chicken Little’s Inconvenient Goofs”
Four or six images with line graphs showing items Gore’s movie mis-predicted, such as:
Hurricanes / tornados
Polar Bear population
Sea ice
Drought / Flood
Climate refugees from threatened islands
Malaria
4. A chart of emissions of the developed vs. the developing world under two scenarios.
Caption: If it’s affordable, it’s ineffective; if it’s effective, it’s unaffordable.
5. A chart of the percentage of renewable power worldwide (under 5% and growing slowly.) A chart of the growth rates of coal vs. renewable worldwide.
Still wish you had a “like” button for the comment section 🙂
What makes you write that? I believe the majority of greenies want us all go back to living in caves. No electricity, no industrial production and not even farming (except for weed – of course). Just clean living and certain death before turning 30.
Thus I see no hypocrisy mounting a protest in Times Square. But I do believe those protesters are pushing a dangerous agenda.
Iwould like all the power plants to shut down for a few days all of them.Then watch this bunch of plonkers scream and whinge my ph wont work i can’t cook my dinner it is dark and i can’t watch the tv i can’t pump gas to fill my car ect ect.I would bet this mob would be the first to complane and they would be the first to beg the power plants to start up again.Morons all of them and a waste of space.
Anthony
It would be very interesting to invite this group to write an article for this blog in which they could explain HOW we can provide sufficient energy from non fossil fuel sources to power a sophisticated economy at a price that doesn’t break the bank and allows us to continue a life that is the healthiest and most long lived in history and has enabled so many millions to climb out of the poverty trap to which mankind had previously been accustomed.
tonyb
davidmhoffer says: August 4, 2014 at 9:24 pm
“How much does it cost to rent one of those billboards for a few hours? Wouldn’t it be a hoot to have global temps from RSS for the last 18 years in the background during their march? Oooh, I’d donate generously to make that happen. Perhaps some scrolling quotes from Climategate to go along with it?”
This. Totally this.
What a brilliant idea.
“If ignorance was blessed, these people would be saints.”
Hummmmmmm…..not really. Ignorance can be taught…..stupid can’t be fixed.
How would they recharge their ipads?
How about using one of the billboards to post…
“CO2: Towards 700ppm !” 🙂
I also would donate to David’s idea. 🙂
“we publicly announced the People’s Climate March – the largest march demanding action on climate change in the history of the planet.”
– I love how the outcome is announced in advance. It reminds me of all of those youtube videos that refer to themselves as “viral” before there is even any evidence that they have been shared at all, never mind gone “viral”.
How about the power company turn off the juice for the duration so they can get to know what it would be like if they got their way.
No Lights
No Phones
No Trains
No Other Transport
No Lifts
No Air Con
No Food Or Drink
I’m sure there are many more as well.
James Bull
Brainwashed clueless lemmings. Very sad. What is there more to say?
CD (@CD153) says:
August 4, 2014 at 8:33 pm
…..BTW, what exactly is “environmental racism?”
The campaign to deny cheap energy to the Third World, which consists mainly of several billion yellow-and brown-skinned people, by a millennialist, misanthropic cabal fronted by naive, altruistic air-heads.
Come on come on please!
They mean well, they just are ignorant.
Hunter gather’s they should be.
davidmhoffer and RogerKnights:
Great idea!!! I bet Chris Monckton has a few contacts. Oh please let it happen.
Rent-a-mob agitprop buffoons with no idea what they’re protesting at, time on their hands and nothing better to do. Every nation has their share of them. #useful_idiots.
I am sorry WUWT I feel very strongly about this march and will be joining them, I have formed a charity –
“I promise to stop using all fossil fuel products straight away upon signing this document”
I am charging 50 dollars for them to sign up to my charity and they will get a certificate to proudly display on their wall with their name and all the products they will not be using upon signing.
http://www-tc.pbs.org/independentlens/classroom/wwo/petroleum.pdf
so there WUWT , we will show you who holds all the power.
Do you have a source for that?
I’ve seen this same “never trust anyone over 30” crowd thousands of times in my lifetime…always on a tether manipulated by marxist/leftists. Yawn. Most will grow up and, one day, hopefully return to the ranks of useful citizenry. Unfortunately, some will persist and replace today’s tether manipulators. What a bore.
It needs saying again. Surrender to these people, surrender to the E.P.A.. Give them exactly what they demand. Close the coal fired power stations now.
How long before they Demand That the lights come back on.
I entered their contest but I can’t figure out why they didn’t select my poster(s) for their march:
“Environmental Racism” ??? You have to What the hell is that ??
policycritic says:
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Sounds like there is some confusion –
One source says 7% is toxic and another says
“CO2 is hazardous via direct toxicity at levels above 5%, . . .”
and on down in this document, there is this: my bold
“I also found research on 7% carbon dioxide on the retinas of baby mice–because this level is deliberately used on human beings–preemie babies to help their lungs develop faster. ”
http://inspectapedia.com/hazmat/CO2_Health_Effects.htm
You might like to look at the brochure and MSDS for Inergen, a fire suppressant gas. The composition is Nitrogen 52%, Argon 40% and Carbon dioxide 8%. When released into a confined space to put out a fire, the oxygen content of the resulting atmosphere should drop to about 12.5% and the carbon dioxide content increase to about 3%. As most materials will not burn with an oxygen content of less than 15% it puts out most fires. However, humans can live in atmospheres with only 12.5%. Carbon dioxide is added to the mixture because at a level of 3% the body reacts, breathing faster and taking deeper breaths, thus making better use of the available oxygen. The above is from the Inergen brochure.
The MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheet) for Inergen states, in relation to the CO2 content, that the STEL (Short Term Exposure Limit) is 30 000 ppm, ie 3%. There must be some safety margin in the figure quoted (there normally is such a safety margin) which of course means that for very short time the exposure can be over 3%. OSHA defines “the STEL is a 15-minute TWA exposure that should not be exceeded at any time during a workday.” See:
http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npg/pgintrod.html
Not powered completely by fossil fuels. Well over a quarter of the power comes from Indian Point.
Not that this would matter to these nitwits. I wouldn’t be surprised if many of them, when they’re not spreading climate hysteria, are working to close Indian Point. It’s that “evil” nuclear power.
How come most people in the video are, to be kind, portly? Surely they grow their own food naturally and they all ride bicycles.
September 21st, eh? First day of fall. A day signifying the coming of cooler weather as the hours/minutes of sunlight decrease. How…appropriate.
“James Bull says:
August 5, 2014 at 1:48 am”
No trains? Reminds me of the solar powered mono-rail episode of The Simpsons.
Let us pretend they get their wish. Then what happens?
The supermarket is gone, because it will be impossible to transport food in a timely manner. That means all your food will have to be local and in season. And their will be much less food because the tractor will be gone. That means mass starvation and fights over the last remaining cans of food. Instead of sipping lattes and pining about how evil big business is, most will have to work hard. The positions of leader is already taken by those telling you to march and when they die it will only go to the ones they favor, not you. And without the fossil fuel powered vehicle of the postal service to deliver welfare checks in a timely manner or the fossil fuel powered electronic welfare card readers, you will have to work hard to make money to get everything. Oh, and don’t forget Facebook will be gone since the internet needs a lot of electricity from fossil fuel powered sources.
Really, these useful idiots are children of privilege who lack the ability to think things through to the logical conclusion.
Skiphil says:
August 4, 2014 at 8:58 pm
We have much better photos at http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/04/10/a-new-high-resolution-look-at-north-korea-where-it-is-earth-hour-every-night/
Some of these estimates assume CO2 is formed in by using up O2, e.g. the 5% figure might be for 15% O2.
Others assume CO2 is added to the standard atmosphere, so at 7% CO2, O2 would be 93% of its usual 20%.
And I assume not all measures of toxic effects have the same response.
David Hoffer said:
How much does it cost to rent one of those billboards for a few hours? Wouldn’t it be a hoot to have global temps from RSS for the last 18 years in the background during their march? Oooh, I’d donate generously to make that happen. Perhaps some scrolling quotes from Climategate to go along with it?
I, too, would contribute to this. Anyone here know how to make it happen?
The People’s Climate March….says it all.
Break out your wood cook stoves, gather in your horses. We’re going back to the days of the wild wild West! This is gonna be great! I can’t wait to see all these fat lazy Americans go back to working 15 hours a day to keep from starving. It is truly what they deserve – and what they are begging for.
Long range weather prediction: On Sept. 20th a strong cold front will sweep through NYC and by Sept. 21 a continental Polar air mass will cause temperatures in the Big Apple to plummet to record lows. 😉
The march will be on September 21st?
I didn’t know September 21st was September Fools Day.
I predict snow fall of 1 – 3 inches on September 21st, 2014 in NYC. 3 – 6 if Al Gore appears!
They are conflating mythical “carbon pollution” and actual pollution, both in words (asthma, and other health issues) and symbolically, such as with the fellow in the gas mask. It is a deliberate lie, and one that the mindless clueless climate bots swallow whole.
As for their big Sept. 21 climate march, many of them will be professional paid protesters, bussed in from accross the country. It is all for show, symbolism, and pure emotionalism. None of it is based on fact or actual science.
After the intro pic using hired paid by the hour models…
The photographers all kept their f-stop focus to blur out once beyond the immediate crowd. Looking past the near protesters one can easily ascertain that there are very few protesters there considering the population density of the big Apple. I wonder if they were promised Coney Island dogs (frankfurters usually good ones).
Don’t forget that quite a few are semi-pro protesters busing or hitchhiking from out of state.
350.goofballs should pack it in; without the massive billionaire leftist financial influx, 350.whatever would even have trouble getting support for a cupcake bake sale; if bake sales are not already illegal in NYC (such dangerous foods require imprisonment and fines, according to the left).
CO2 lethal exposure level is 110,000 ppm.
Submariners are commonly exposed to levels of 8,000 ppm for long periods (SSBN patrols of up to 70 days or so).
Optimal levels in greenhouses for plants: 1,000 ppm to 2,000 ppm.
This is what results from George Soros, Agenda 21, unionized teachers, Common Core Curricula, and feckless politicians.
What I see in the above photo is a bunch of youngsters having fun during fine weather. Not one looks old enough to have experienced any global warming at all, considering there has been NO global warming for the past ~18 years. They are just doing what youth does best… party. GK
“Peoples…” is a code word for Communist[s]. It is amusing how they don’t even attempt to hide it anymore. “Our ideas led to the murder of at least 100 million in the 20th Century, give us a chance with setting climate policy. What could go wrong???”
“James Bull says:
August 5, 2014 at 1:48 am
How about the power company turn off the juice for the duration so they can get to know what it would be like if they got their way.
No Lights
No Phones”
I immediately thought,
“No phone, no lights no motor cars,
Not a single luxury,
Like Robinson Crusoe,
As primative as can be.”
Yes, undoubtedly they are using sex to sell the Idiots’ Climate March. Oldest sale’s ploy in the book.
No doubt there will be other, more tangible perks as well, besides the overall “party” atmosphere.
They are rebels without a clue.
“We’ll take to the streets to demand the world we know is within our reach: a world with an economy that works for people and the planet; a world safe from the ravages of climate change; a world with good jobs, clean air and water, and healthy communities.”
. . .A world with low paid, unproductive, hard and brutal jobs, air dirty with the soot from forests that are ravaged for firewood by a desperate humanity, a shortage of water as there is no longer power to process it, and communities bent under the burden of poverty, hunger and disease.
You can stick your world guys.
Do any of these protesters get invited to the Billionaires Club meetings or are they just unpaid lackies? The Chain of Environmental Command: How a Club of Billionaires and Their Foundations Control the Environmental Movement and Obama’s EPA
http://www.epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Files.View&FileStore_id=8af3d005-1337-4bc3-bcd6-be947c523439
Thank you, John F. Hultquist, for the reply link. Really appreciate it, and the time to bother.
“We’ll take to the streets to demand the world we know is within our reach: a world with an economy that works for people and the planet; a world safe from the ravages of climate change; a world with good jobs, clean air and water, and healthy communities.”
Translation: We really have no idea just how great we have it right now, but please GIVE me a good paying job, healthcare, and a good standard of living without me having to work for it, as it is obvious it is being kept from me by nefarious evil people. Oh the humanity!
Dave Yaussy says:
August 5, 2014 at 5:53 am
David Hoffer said:
How much does it cost to rent one of those billboards for a few hours? Wouldn’t it be a hoot to have global temps from RSS for the last 18 years in the background during their march? Oooh, I’d donate generously to make that happen. Perhaps some scrolling quotes from Climategate to go along with it?
I, too, would contribute to this. Anyone here know how to make it happen?
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I did some very preliminary research. The high profile boards are usually booked by the month, sometimes by the year, and well in advance. Millions per month for the big ones. So as fun as it would be, we’d probably be looking at $100K + just for a few days, plus set up costs which I imagine would be substantial. I don’t think there’s enough time to get the set up and contract arrangements done in that time frame, let alone raise that much money.
Perhaps someone from the advertising business could jump in?
It’s amazing that they found enough parking for all of their unicorns in NY City!
Let’s petition Amtrak to put pedals in the passenger cars as a substitute for a locomotive so that these nitwits can personally supply the energy to power their “People’s Climate Train from SF to NYC @ Amtrak California Zephyr and Lake Shore Limited” (And they can only eat arugula and tofu – no meat.)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dXvOcdROuB-_2ZbEv1kir8uIOZRhoxJCiWIB_sBE9Sk/edit
I challenge them to make 100 tons of steel for just one mile of RR track with only solar and wind power. (& sorry nitwits no coal is allowed, you must make your coke from tree charcoal and haul it from the forest using solar, solar powered animals or wind power as well.)
here has been several mentions of “Environmental Racism”. Apparently they are decribing themselves, as green groups are “too white and too male”.
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jul/30/green-groups-too-white-too-male-other-sectors-report
DavidMHoffer
The alternative is to get someone to walk around the protest wearing a sandwich board putting the other point of view.. As it was your idea I nominate you…
I will sell the tickets….I am looking for someone to take over the popcorn franchise at the event.
Good luck!
tonyb
The old moving signs burned more energy and produced much heat. Once they rezoned times sq as a special district, it is now required that you cover the building with lights. Granted most are now the high output LEDs which use less power than incendesent but the number of lights has increased 10 fold or more.
With all the building in NYC that much more Electricity and Gas is used. Indian Point Nuk plant is still running, which is 25 miles up the Hudson from NYC. Up the Hudson Valley you see signes on the lawns of Retarded people saying to shut down Indian Point. And use what? Candles?
NYC is up to and past 55,000,000 visitors a year. Everyone of them goes thru Times Sq. and comes on a plane and eats in a restaurant and sleeps in a hotel. All these things need power. Boing doesn’t make a commercial plane that runs on electric or unicorn farts yet.
Stupid is as stupid does.
I think they should all go and spend a month camping on Isle Royale!
Yes I think September surrounded by Lake Superior, would be a good commune with nature and shun some the “carbon polluting” niceties of modern society like cell phone, internet connections, daily showers and hot meals on demand.
climatereason;
The alternative is to get someone to walk around the protest wearing a sandwich board putting the other point of view.. As it was your idea I nominate you…
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LOL. Are you going to pay my expenses to travel across an entire continent too? (I’ll throw in the sandwich board for free).
The guy in the gas mask is dressed – and equipped – to kill, without leaving his DNA, prints, hair,
etc., at the scene.
A lot of Kool-Aid drinkers in that crowd. And my favorite union is involved. SEIU. /sarc/
Carbon-based fuels are both renewable and degradable. And, in some ecosystems, they are a critical nutrient for simple organisms. However, they share the same problem with every other chemical known to man: in concentration, they are toxic to life. So, exploit them purposefully (i.e. application-specific) and rationally (i.e. mitigate their toxicity).
Chemicals, including water, and even hormones and vitamins and nutrients, can kill you in the wrong dosages.
The problem is that environmental activists have adopted the stance that all chemicals used by people, in any process whatever, are “guilty until proven innocent.” That amounts to over 10,000 chemicals which are on trial for causing tumors, inability to pay attention, etc etc etc.
The second assumption by environmental activists is that if enormous doses of any chemical can be demonstrated in lab animals to cause problems (particularly create tumors which rats usually get anyway), then this applies to humans as well, as a one to one relationship.
The third assumption is that if huge doses of any chemical used, in any process, to create any product or food, is found to cause any health effects in enormous doses, then it must be legislated to no-dose levels eventually, even though exposures in practice are only very tiny molecular amounts.
Not good science at work here, in the majority of cases. It is a paradigm developed by the Boomers and is deeply entrenched in their world view.
Maybe it’s as simple as all lefties are missing the gene that gives them critical thinking skills. At least it would explain much of what’s wrong with the world.
But the replacements the greens prefer are usually ineffective, and are sometimes genuinely toxic. For example, the low-water environmentally “chosen” laundry soap once burned my skin and ruined a good pair of shoes.
Another instance includes CFLs, which contain more than safe levels of mercury in every light bulb. State laws vary. It is also volatilized mercury, which is not like the little mercury thermometers. The bulbs, often made in China, are known to leak and spontaneously explode. All within homes and closed exposures.
I get a little burned out by people who warn me about the potential health and neurological dangers of my cherries, apples, and tomatoes, and then proceed to stuff a bowl and smoke that as fast as they can, to make themselves stupid with thc.
davidmhoffer says:
August 5, 2014 at 10:05 am
climatereason;
The alternative is to get someone to walk around the protest wearing a sandwich board putting the other point of view.. As it was your idea I nominate you…
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LOL. Are you going to pay my expenses to travel across an entire continent too? (I’ll throw in the sandwich board for free).
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Maybe the Naked Cowboy is for hire? There are also legions of homeless people wearing various cartoon character outfits that harass tourists into paying to have their picture taken with “Elmo.” I am sure they could be hired for a modicum stipend to tote any sort of sign around. 😉
damned hippies….
I miss Berke Breathed’ Bloom County strip.
Come on….
I care for the “environment”, but I would never show up to one of those rent-a-mob/pseudo environmentalist get-togethers…… never!!!
This is nothing more than an attack on personal freedom. Trust me, one day it will make sense… you’ll see.
It’s just another piece of the puzzle.
It’s worth noting that NYC gets quite a lot of its energy from nuclear, thanks to Indian Point. Which, of course, similar loons have been trying to shut down for decades.
To much real news going on in the world and they expect that junk to get some airtime?
It is funny children in school playgrounds when they do something stop and say “global warming” because you can blame anything on that. This is the problem the whole AGW crowd now face everyone has stopped taking it seriously it is like those crazy medical studies that come out from time to time that get media coverage and everyone promptly ignores.
I’m not that familiar with your country but that angry lady addressing the mob…was that the President’s wife?
Some day the scientific study of narcissism will progress to the point that it describes clumped narcissism and organized narcissism, not just individual behavior and characteristics.
If those children get their way they’re going to live to find out how hard life can be.
After seeing the photo of the idiot in the gas mask I got curious and did some checking.
First off I couldn’t find any mask that looked anything like the one he’s wearing leading me to think it’s just a prop.
But the most interesting thing I found is what is used as an absorbent in gas masks.
And the answer is (drum-roll please) activated charcoal. That’s right people this guy is trying to protect himself from the nasty carbon with more carbon.
It is getting to a stage where one element of society thinks it has a right to impose its own ideas and beliefs on the rest of society without any discussion and debate. It is time for the silent majority to call these people out.
Read Jonathan Haidt. Liberals think in caricatures and cartoons; conservatives have wider viewpoints and are much better at modelling others’ ideas. http://www.ted.com/talks/jonathan_haidt_on_the_moral_mind