By Jim Lakely
The Weather Channel is absolutely ridiculous. The channel’s “Weather Across the Country” map on their homepage for September 19 had red colors EVERYWHERE! Because it’s HOT HOT HOT! No area of the country is experiencing normal weather for mid September, apparently. Chicago, for instance, was displayed as red to deep orange. Warm, right?
I can tell you from personal experience: It was “freezing” on Tuesday, September 19 in Northern Illinois for a day that is still technically summer. It rained all day and barely got over 60 all afternoon. I regretted not wearing a jacket to the office.
On this map, Seattle is in “yellow/green” denoting cooler weather, but I can assure you that today in Chicago felt like Seattle … and it probably felt a lot warmer in Seattle where The Weather Channel said, and showed with color, that it was significantly “cooler.”
Kansas City is 82 degrees and is in orange, approaching light orange to “cooler” yellow. Oklahoma City is also 82 degrees, but is DEEP RED HOT and close to the now new “hot” color of whitish pink. (When I was a kid, they saved the “white” color for cold. Now it’s “white hot”!)
Minot, North Dakota was allegedly 86 degrees today and is in “cool” yellow. Jacksonville, Florida is one degree higher at 87 and is in “deep red hot.” Missed opportunity there for The Weather Channel to move even more reds deeper into North Dakota, since it’s their goal to make it seem like going to towards the Canadian border is like visiting Florida. It’s like Florida everywhere!
More BS: International Falls, Minnesota is 70 degrees and portrayed as “red hot.” St. Louis, Missouri is 86 degrees and has the same color scheme, but even closer to a cooler orange and yellow. How can that be for a forecast of the high temperatures for the day?
HOT DAMN! I just noticed that Oklahoma City is 82 degrees and in deep red color and close to “hot pink” while St. Louis — 4 degrees hotter — is in orange to yellow.
The Weather Channel is propagandizing America. It is part of the “climate change causes everything, all the time, everywhere” effort to brainwash people to believe the myth that the summer of 2023 was the hottest year ever on record. EVER!!!!! They do that with visual propaganda, displayed above. But the facts and data show, that is just not true.
The Weather Channel has a mandate to continually reinforce climate alarmist propaganda by making you think, at a glance, that most of the middle of this country in September is just as warm as Florida. The historic heat wave we talked about all summer (but wasn’t actually historic) continues!
THIS IS THE TRUTH: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 was a cool, rainy, and dreary day in Chicagoland — yet the map by The Weather Channel would make you think otherwise. And, by the way, the weathermen on TV said it would rain a bit in the late morning, but clear up and warm up later in the afternoon. WRONG, AGAIN. These are the same people who assure us that most of Florida will be underwater by the time children now in Kindergarten are in their mid-50s, like me.
It’s all BS all the way down, and they know it. But they just need to keep enough people believing it long enough so the people will stop thinking for themselves and remember how the weather used to be delivered to us compared to now.
It’s all about advancing a larger agenda of panic about the climate and government “solutions” that take away your liberty. Green on the outside, deep red on the inside.
Weather forecasting is an inexact science. We all know that. But these same people assure us that unless we give up our way of life — a life of going where we want, growing enough food for everyone, driving for family vacations — these maps will get even more red! It’s a lie, but it’s insidious and unceasing.
Heartland friend John Coleman, who passed away a few years ago, founded The Weather Channel. He was aghast at what had become of his dream: a channel dedicated 24/7 to telling all of America what was happening with the weather across the country and in their backyard. It was a revolutionary idea, and The Weather Channel he founded became the go-to and trusted source for truthful weather information.
John was horrified that his idea had been infiltrated by climate alarmists and turned into a propaganda outfit.
Below is one of the best presentations John ever gave at one of Heartland’s climate conferences.
Here is John Coleman embarrassing CNN’s Brian Stelter when he made the mistake of booking him on his show — a media appearance I was honored to arrange for him.
I miss you, John Coleman.
https://www.heartland.org/index.html
Jim Lakely is the Vice President of The Heartland Institute.
69C is really hot but what the F?
Fahrenheit.
Is a number in degrees Fahrenheit a temperature, or a heat index?
69°F = 20,5 °C
96°F = 35,5 °C (the hottest temperature I have seen on screenshots of this article).
Europe and Canada use C America uses F. The map tells you which is which.
Well we were frustratingly amused by the frantic attempts of the Met Office in the UK to portray 20-21°C as ‘heatwaves’ so we shouldn’t be surprised when the same shoddy behaviour happens elsewhere. Disappointed, certainly, but not surprised.
The propaganda isn’t for adults. It’s designed to convince children that they are doomed unless their parents give up their food, shelter and independence and join the commune. We know the climate is not noticeably different from when we were young. They don’t.
We’re fighting this the wrong way. We need to be electing school boards that emphasize the basics and critical thinking rather than indoctrination.
And in the meantime. we need to convince the kids that TikTok videos produce more CO2 than coal plants. It’s not like they know enough about science to challenge anything.
Silly rabbit, children don watch the weather channel. Or vote?
If the Democrats have their way, children will be able to vote, regardless of whether they watch the weather channel.
“The propaganda isn’t for adults.”
Nope.. its for Democrats….
In other words, it’s for mental children.
That’s a great idea Joe! But maybe say 18.3 times as much CO2 as coal plants. The precision makes it so much more sciencey.
I live in central Washington State and the local high that afternoon was 72°F. We had some wind — common here — and spotty showers. Interesting weather is fun to watch as it crests the Cascade Range and slides into eastern WA.
I gave up on the Weather Channel at the same time I quit subscribing to the magazines SciAmer and NatGeo.
Go woke-go broke. Scientific American jumped the shark under Reagan opposing the Strategic Defense Initiative. National Geographic went bonkers after the Grosvenors and Bells stopped being involved.
Yep, I gave up on SciAmer about the same time. I also gave up on Science News, a weekly publication, because they went ALL IN on the Global Warming thing (without evidence, IMHO), and the fact that they WOULD NOT COVER the burgeoning evidence put out by the Intelligent Design folks. They would not even admit there was an argument, despite their not being able to refute or answer ANY of the questions they asked.
I have never built a good story for how the death of old media relates to climate change. It’s possible the two event are independent in process while coincident in time
I don’t think the climate change alarm would have gained as much traction under the old media. Compare the amount and level of alarmism for the ‘global cooling’ scare with the ‘global warming’ scare.
Interesting thought – actually sounds right.
Front Range of Colorado has been having almost perfect weather, a tad little cool in the morning for early risers. No wind, sunny and highs around 75F.
I canceled my subscription to Scientific American when they first ran a hit piece on Bjorn Lomborg. It’s not that I agree with Lomborg, it’s that I completely disagree with SciAmer. Since that time, they are a complete (but expected) disappointment. They are neither scientific nor American.
If you look at the editorial board you can see why.
Lomborg is wrong that the mild warming we’ve seen is a problem and maybe that it’s mostly due to our impact on the environment, but he’s surely right that the only rational response is to adapt.
I can explain this. It’s not that these weather guys are biased or being told what to report; it’s just that they ran out of blue (cool/cold) crayons are were forced to use red and orange crayons. Now if they can only stay within the lines.
LOL!
There’s probably some climate scientist out working on how make an infrared crayon!
Microwave crayons projected to be needed in 5 years.
Of course it is true, as far as instrument records go at least. Maybe not in the US, which is a geographically insignificant fraction of the NH; but every global/NH data set we have, yes, including UAH, has confirmed that the NH summer of 2023 was the warmest, by far, in each of their individual records.
Also, every day since early July 2023 has set a new daily temperature record globally.
Nothing to see here? Lol!
Considering your comments I’m hoping TheFinalNail is in your coffin.
I’ve always suspected that his choice of a nom de plume reflects his view of himself, being the final word on the subject.
It’s a projection – if fossil fuels are ended then we will see the final nail being produced as renewables are incapable of producing enough power for such manufacture.
That’s a bit of an exaggeration Richard. We will still have nails made by the blacksmiths when we revert to medieval technology.
Salute!
What is normal?
What is the desired utopian temperature or other climate metrics?
A 30 year record of temperatures is not a great baseline, especially if we used 1925 to 1945, huh?
PLZ let’s use actual temperature over the years whether proxy or actual thermometers we had then regardless hos crude versus this anomaly crapola down to the tenth of a degree or less…..
Sheesh….constant efforts to keep us all in a state of fear.
Gums sends…
Also: LOL!
If this is true and we have just survived the apocalypse then…
What’s the next religion?
Because this one has played all it’s explanatory narrative to the Last Battle and no-one noticed.
So Brothers and Sisters, let us now pay attention to real problems instead.
Cooler than most of the last 10,000 years
Stop your childish brainless chicken-little routine. !
There you go again. Have you taken over the “Make it up” mantra from Mark. Reference please?
Seem you are totally incapable of reading other people’s posts.
The evidence for a much warmer Holocene is everywhere.
Try not to be totally ignorant all your life !.
What a complete fool you are. Graph with a reference, or go away down your hole…..
Continued DENIAL of climate history seems to be your only refuge.
There are several strings of evidence already in this thread… have you read them?
Or is remaining totally ignorant your only aim?
https://www.icelandreview.com/news/3000-year-old-trees-excavated-under-glacier/
Virtually EVERYONE on this board has seen temp reconstructions like these, except you, evidently.
http://roperld.com/science/graphics/EarthTemperatureSummary.jpg
You only look like a fool who is too lazy to research anything yourself.
Only part of the Holocene that was NOT warmer than now was the Little Ice Age.!
(and a blip about 8000 years ago.)
Please consider just how much warmer it must have been only 1000-1500 years ago for forest to have grown, where now we have very slowly melting glaciers.
Glaciers that did not even exist for most of the Holocene.
And the simple one still hasn’t explained….
…. is he incapable?… yes, obviously.
“Please consider just how much warmer it must have been only 1000-1500 years ago for forests to have grown, where now we have very slowly melting glaciers.
Glaciers that did not even exist for most of the Holocene.”
Thinking becomes irrelevant and impossible for mindless zealots like Simon.
Simples and Rusty think that ultra right-wing Icelanders faked those tree trunks with help from Russians and Donald Trump.
And then they’ll tell you that if it was warm enough for those trees to grow in Iceland, that was just a regional warm period. (The earth region, that is. No warming on Mars because we have no data).
The term is Holocene Optimum. You can also use Holocene Maximum. One wonders what SUVs they were driving back then. The pyramid builders didn’t even have the invention of the wheel to help them. The temperature proxies were several degrees higher than currently–and the planet survived.
Thats just jibber jabber. Graph please with a reference or you got nothing.
And you have nothing but continued Climate Denial and mindless bluster.
Plenty of evidence elsewhere in the thread.
Read it !
You are the one making the claim…. be a big boy and own it. If you can… but you can’t without resorting to some cornflakes packet graph. What a joke you are.
Here’s a link for you. with lots and lots of papers showing the Holocene was significantly warmer than now.
I know you will never bother to read a single one of them, and even if you do your tiny mind cold never allow you to accept reality.
but anyway
Search results for “holocene” (notrickszone.com)
And just because, maybe a simple graph might be more suited to you ignorance, here’s one from China
One from the Southeast Pacific
And one from the Equatorial Atlantic…
Add these to all the Greenland and other Arctic data, and you don’t have rock small enough for an insignificant little cockroach like you to crawl under.
One from the Swiss Alps
one from Canada
Do you have anything… anything at all that is global. No. Well I do. Look in the left top corner. It says GLOBAL….
Ok it’s the right… still says global.
There is no such thing as a global temperature, it is a figment of climate numpties imagination.
Source, Slimon?
Fascinating how no regional warming, but somehow the globe is warming.
As to this chart, it’s hard to be more fraudulent.
First off all you are appending a fraudulent surface chart record with yearly resolution to a proxy record with resolutions of thousands of years.
Secondly, I just love the way you so called scientists carefully remove any proxy that doesn’t show what they are paid to produce.
Yawn…. East china is not global. What a clown you are….
You really are a complete moron, aren’t you
Tos graphs are from all around the world.
They are REAL, not FAKE like mickey mann’s fraudulent efforts
““Please consider just how much warmer it must have been only 1000-1500 years ago for forests to have grown, where now we have very slowly melting glaciers.
Glaciers that did not even exist for most of the Holocene.””
STILL WAITING !!!
Many charts with references have been posted in the past.
Seems you have the attention and memory span of a goldfish larva.
It’s incredible that there are numerous references to the Holocene Optimum, but you’re too deficiencent to find them.
It’s hard to find, when you refuse to look.
why don’t YOU show a graph- it’s you and your comrades who are pushing the fear mongering
“why don’t YOU show a graph-“
See above
A fraudulent composition.. splicing high-res data on the end of a low-res fabrication.
Whoever it was concocted that graphs is a mathematically incompetent idiot
Doubt you even realise the mathematical absurdity of it though. !
How did I know you were going to call fraud on the data? Oh wait… it’s your only strategy. It’s all you got.
This from the guy who declares that everything that doesn’t agree with what he is told to believe, is fraudulent.
Does this satisfy your demand?
I’m not sure what part of global you are not getting. And if you are going to quote Richard Alley, then can I suggest you take in all he has to say…. I think you will find he would be appalled to know snippets of his work are being used by the unscrupulous to justify a stance he does not agree with.
Really having a major problem with this utter and complete failure of yours, aren’t you simpleton.
You obviously know that there is masses of evidence all from around the world that most of the Holocene was a lot warmer than now..
…. but your tiny little mind just cannot allow itself to except that fact.
It is brain-washed with an idea that is totally incorrect, and is not capable of recognising REALITY
Did you ever follow that link I gave you and see the MASSIVE AMOUNT OF EVIDENCE.
I’m guessing your ignorant ego won’t allow you even look. !
“You obviously know that there is masses of evidence all from around the world that most of the Holocene was a lot warmer than now..”
Well let’s see it? Surely it will be easy for you to back up what you say given you are so certain. I’ll wait patiently. Oh and you saying it is not evidence.
“Did you ever follow that link I gave you and see the MASSIVE AMOUNT OF EVIDENCE.”
Don’t recal any link that showed that globally we are cooler than the last 10000 years?
I know maybe post it right…. here so I can?
Simon doesn’t do research. He demands that others do it for him, then he refuses to look at anything that isn’t from one of his approved sites.
Yes, I know. He’s just a troll.
Basically… he is mentally incontinent.
Boring putdowns. Is that all you have?
That’s funny, coming from you.
his real name is probably Mickey Mann
No such thing as a troll here. Apparently this is a place where all ideas are welcome. It is the difference between WUWT and the alarmist sites.
You have no ideas.
You are an empty sad sac.. !
Again, simple one.
“How much warmer it must have been only 1000-1500 years ago for forests to have grown, where now we have very slowly melting glaciers.
Glaciers that did not even exist for most of the Holocene.”
Still waiting !
Still watching you run around like a headless chicken-little. 🙂
Settle down now Simples! You’re incredibly boring.
There’s no climate emergency, only a slight beneficial warming.
The fact that your foolishness is tolerated here is proof that it’s a place where all ideas can be freely expressed. That doesn’t by any stretch of the imagination mean that you are not a troll.
“Simon doesn’t do research.”
Yep I do…. Here’s some. From NOAA, you know those people you pay your hard earned taxes to get to the truth…..
“For most of the past 10,000 years, global average temperature has remained relatively stable and low compared to earlier hothouse conditions in our planet’s history. Now, temperature is among the highest experienced not only in the “recent” past—the past 11,000 years or so, during which modern human civilization developed—but also probably for a much longer period.
Carrie Morrill of the National Climatic Data Center explains, “You’d have to go back to the last interglacial [warm period between ice ages] about 125,000 years ago to find temperatures significantly higher than temperatures of today.””
I’ve proven this to you several times. Is it our fault that you refuse to look at any site that isn’t approved by your handlers?
“I’ve proven this to you several times. Is it our fault that you refuse to look at any site that isn’t approved by your handlers?”
Translation…. I have nothing, so I will resort to putdowns. So… sigh…. if you have a reputable site that supports your laughably silly statement that the last 10000 years have been warmer than today, then let’s see it. Otherwise, time to slink back into your hole and bang your head on the keyboard… again.
Translation….
Simon is incapable of learning or understanding or comprehending that goes against his manic brain-washed idiocy.
He must know by now there are vast amounts of evidence that most of the last 10,000 years been warmer than now..
…. but his tiny little mind cannot allow itself to process that FACT.
It is sadly pathetic.
“He must know by now there are vast amounts of evidence that most of the last 10,000 years been warmer than now..”
Well come on… simple request… where is a graph that shows globally we were warmer for the last 10000 years?
Sorry little zealot,
Many graphs from all around the world show that to be the case
IGNORING SCIENCE.. is all you have.
Have you even read Janice’s notes below…
… or is it too difficult for your puny little mind to cope with the facts. !
Graph please??????
I have at least another 50-60 from around the world..
But you don’t understand graphs or data, or reality.
“I have at least another 50-60 from around the world..”
But, but, but, do you have one that is credible and global? There’s your challenge.
You poor empty mind.
You just can’t except the MOUNTAIN of data proving the Holocene Optimum, can you.
You are absolutely determined to remain the most ignorant and insignificant cockroach on the planet.
There’s no global climate, no global temperature. Such things give the false impression of homogeneity which isn’t there.
Simon really does have a great fantasy life.
Probably to make up for his lack of success in the real world.
UHI is not air temperature, it is a measure of urban activity. As long as you keep referring to measurements of urban activity then you will completely miss seeing what is happening with the air temperature.
Urban activity????? When did I mention it?
The fact that you condone this sort of manic colouring-in activism…
… puts you squarely where you belong… Kindergarten !!
Don’t forget to wash your fingers after you finish !
Nail. When you take a break from marching all around WUWT, blowing your penny whistle and bellowing about “the warmest July ever!” you might want to take a look at what the founder of C.R.U. (Climatic Research Unit), Hubert Lamb, has to say about global temperatures. I suggest you do this soon. Spare yourself MORE embarrassment. No wonder you don’t give your real name.https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/14.0.0/svg/1f644.svg
“The Holocene begins around 10,000 BC, at the end of the last Ice Age, and continues to the present. … How did temperatures in this first part of Holocene compare with today’s … ? Lamb presents a good deal of evidence to suggest that, for much of the period, temperatures were warmer than now.
For instance, … evidence from glaciers: It was after 2000-1500 BC that most of the present glaciers in the Rocky Mountains south of 57 o N were formed and that major re-advance of those in the Alaskan Rockies first took place. And at their subsequent advanced positions – probably around 500 BC as well as between 1650 and 1850 AD – the glaciers in the Alps regained an extent, estimated in the Glockner region, at about 5 times their Bronze Age Minimum, when all the smaller ones had disappeared.
Treeline studies, including Southern Hemisphere sites, paint a similar picture. Quoting a study by Markgraf (1974) which encompassed the Alps, Carpathians, Rockies, Japan, New Guinea, Australia, New Zealand, East Africa and the Andes, Lamb writes : Summer temperatures in these regions were 2 C higher than now in the warmest postglacial times (around 5000 BC).
Study of the Upper Tree Line on the White Mountains in California [Lamarche (1973)], similarly indicates warm season temperatures about 2C higher than today all through the warmest millenia, from before 5500 BC until about 2200 BC.
*** The northern limit of vineyards with a long history of cultivation lay some 300-500 km north of the limit of commercial vineyards in the 20thC. In many parts of England, there are traces of medieval tillage far above anything attempted in the present century, even in wartime: up to 350 m above sea level on Dartmoor and 320 m in Northumberland.
The tree line and upper limits of various crops on the hills of Central Europe were higher than today. *** In Central Norway, the area of farming spread 100-200m up valleys and hillsides from 800 – 1000 AD, *** The Viking colonies in W and SW Greenland were able to bury their dead sheep in soil that has since been permanently frozen.
*** from N Mexico to N Canada, where forest remnants between 25 and 100 km north of the present limit have been found, radio carbon dated between 880 and 1140 AD. *** “
(Source: Paul Homewood, https://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/06/24/hh-lamb-climate-present-past-future-vol-2-in-review-part-i/ 😉
The 2.56 million-year ice age named the Quaternary Glaciation that the Earth is in is ongoing. It won’t end until all natural ice on Earth melts. Currently, 20% of the land is either permafrost or converted by glaciers. The previous glacial period ended about 11,700 years ago but the Earth is still in an interglacial period which usually lasts about 10,000 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternary_glaciation
Nail. When you take a break from marching all around WUWT, blowing your penny whistle and bellowing about “the warmest July ever!” you might want to take a look at what the founder of C.R.U. (Climatic Research Unit), Hubert Lamb, has to say about global temperatures. I suggest you do this soon. Spare yourself MORE embarrassment. No wonder you don’t give your real name.🙄
“The Holocene begins around 10,000 BC, at the end of the last Ice Age, and continues to the present. … How did temperatures in this first part of Holocene compare with today’s … ? Lamb presents a good deal of evidence to suggest that, for much of the period, temperatures were warmer than now.
For instance, … evidence from glaciers: It was after 2000-1500 BC that most of the present glaciers in the Rocky Mountains south of 57 o N were formed and that major re-advance of those in the Alaskan Rockies first took place. And at their subsequent advanced positions – probably around 500 BC as well as between 1650 and 1850 AD – the glaciers in the Alps regained an extent, estimated in the Glockner region, at about 5 times their Bronze Age Minimum, when all the smaller ones had disappeared.
Treeline studies, including Southern Hemisphere sites, paint a similar picture. Quoting a study by Markgraf (1974) which encompassed the Alps, Carpathians, Rockies, Japan, New Guinea, Australia, New Zealand, East Africa and the Andes, Lamb writes : Summer temperatures in these regions were 2 C higher than now in the warmest postglacial times (around 5000 BC).
Study of the Upper Tree Line on the White Mountains in California [Lamarche (1973)], similarly indicates warm season temperatures about 2C higher than today all through the warmest millenia, from before 5500 BC until about 2200 BC.
*** The northern limit of vineyards with a long history of cultivation lay some 300-500 km north of the limit of commercial vineyards in the 20thC. In many parts of England, there are traces of medieval tillage far above anything attempted in the present century, even in wartime: up to 350 m above sea level on Dartmoor and 320 m in Northumberland.
The tree line and upper limits of various crops on the hills of Central Europe were higher than today. *** In Central Norway, the area of farming spread 100-200m up valleys and hillsides from 800 – 1000 AD, *** The Viking colonies in W and SW Greenland were able to bury their dead sheep in soil that has since been permanently frozen.
*** from N Mexico to N Canada, where forest remnants between 25 and 100 km north of the present limit have been found, radio carbon dated between 880 and 1140 AD. *** “
(Source: Paul Homewood, https://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/06/24/hh-lamb-climate-present-past-future-vol-2-in-review-part-i/ )
(Patrick Moore on “X”)
The climate of the Earth as a whole is still a 2.58-million-year ice age named the Quaternary Glaciation. The Earth is in a warm interglacial period that happens about every 100,000 years and lasts about 10,000 years which alternates with a cold glacial period that lasts about 90,000 years. The Earth still has around 200,000 glaciers and 11 percent of the land is permafrost. The ice age the Earth is in won’t end and the climate won’t officially change until all the natural ice melts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternary_glaciation
Permafrost covers 11% of the world’s land surface.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permafrost
Glaciers cover 10% of the world’s land surface.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glacier
Did you know…. two months is NOT CLIMATE.
And the anomalies were considerably less than in 2016
Still a cooling trend since 2016 even with these last two months of “warm” WEATHER (mostly above northern Siberia where basically nobody lives.)
Now, let’s see what idiotic human causation for those two warm WEATHER month you can come up with. 😉
“two months is NOT CLIMATE”
Neither is 30 years. But that is what they want us to believe.
So what?
Following Gums, what do you want the global temperature to do — go down?
From the look of that chart, civilisation actually started just after 5000BC. 🙂
🤣
First thing i spotted too
“geographically insignificant fraction of the NH”
The biggest anomaly in the NH was in an area where basically nobody lives, North of Siberia.
That area is totally insignificant both region and population.
The only area with slightly significant anomaly where people actually live was north east Scandinavia
OH NO !!!!! Time to PANIC !!
(Patrick Moore on Twitter/”X”)
Simon, do you have a comment on Janice’s chart? You were asking for a chart showing it was warmer in the past that it is now. I think her chart fits your bill. And throws cold water on CO2 being the cause of anything.
We are talking global and reputable. Janices posts are not global and ?????? Patrick Moore is not a climate scientist.
Ignoring the huge amount of data from around the world that shows a much warmer Holocene.
Only someone why zero mental capacity would do that.
Still waiting for you to explain how trees grow under glaciers.
You keep running away yapping and whimpering….. why is that !
Nail. When you take a break from marching all around WUWT, blowing your penny whistle, and bellowing about “the warmest July ever!” you might want to take a look at what the founder of C.R.U. (Climatic Research Unit), Hubert Lamb, has to say about global temperatures. I suggest you do this soon. Spare yourself MORE embarrassment. No wonder you don’t give your real name.
“The Holocene begins around 10,000 BC, at the end of the last Ice Age, and continues to the present. … How did temperatures in this first part of Holocene compare with today’s … ? Lamb presents a good deal of evidence to suggest that, for much of the period, temperatures were warmer than now.
For instance, … evidence from glaciers: It was after 2000-1500 BC that most of the present glaciers in the Rocky Mountains south of 57 o N were formed and that major re-advance of those in the Alaskan Rockies first took place. And at their subsequent advanced positions – probably around 500 BC as well as between 1650 and 1850 AD – the glaciers in the Alps regained an extent, estimated in the Glockner region, at about 5 times their Bronze Age Minimum, when all the smaller ones had disappeared.
Treeline studies, including Southern Hemisphere sites, paint a similar picture. Quoting a study by Markgraf (1974) which encompassed the Alps, Carpathians, Rockies, Japan, New Guinea, Australia, New Zealand, East Africa and the Andes, Lamb writes : Summer temperatures in these regions were 2 C higher than now in the warmest postglacial times (around 5000 BC).
Study of the Upper Tree Line on the White Mountains in California [Lamarche (1973)], similarly indicates warm season temperatures about 2C higher than today all through the warmest millenia, from before 5500 BC until about 2200 BC.
*** The northern limit of vineyards with a long history of cultivation lay some 300-500 km north of the limit of commercial vineyards in the 20thC. In many parts of England, there are traces of medieval tillage far above anything attempted in the present century, even in wartime: up to 350 m above sea level on Dartmoor and 320 m in Northumberland.
The tree line and upper limits of various crops on the hills of Central Europe were higher than today. *** In Central Norway, the area of farming spread 100-200m up valleys and hillsides from 800 – 1000 AD, *** The Viking colonies in W and SW Greenland were able to bury their dead sheep in soil that has since been permanently frozen.
*** from N Mexico to N Canada, where forest remnants between 25 and 100 km north of the present limit have been found, radio carbon dated between 880 and 1140 AD. ***
(Source: Paul Homewood, https://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/06/24/hh-lamb-climate-present-past-future-vol-2-in-review-part-i/ )
Yawn, I had a nice cool day today about 10 degrees F below average for the date.
There are cool breezes in the Seattle area–brrrr!
Been a strange September down here. (NSW Australia.. so just coming out of a very pleasant winter.)
First fortnight was as cool or slightly cooler than the very pleasant “not-as-cold-as-usual” July and August.
Then we had a week or so of rather warm weather for this time of year.
Now it has dropped back down again, and last night I wished I hadn’t put the quilt away. !
The southern jet stream seems to be rather wobbly, so makes sense we are getting these warmer and cooler surges.
Call the fire department! I’m burning up!
Real-time Global Temperature
(updated every 1-2 minutes)
57.4°F / 14.11°C
Here at my Hoosier home about 35 miles NNE of Indianapolis the leaves on the maple trees have already started turning yellow and red. The last of the tomatoes from the Garden have been picked and it is done for this year.
The Fox squirrels are busy burying nuts for the coming winter. The branches of the huge oak in the neighbors yard dropping acorns a plenty. The Robins and most other migratory birds left weeks ago. Even the barn swallows that nest in the unused chimney on my neighbors garage departed last week some time. I have no doubt before long we will be seeing and hearing the flocks of Geese and Ducks migrating.
All the signs around me are that summer is over as the last week of September is about to unfold. And from what I am seeing in the longer range projections from sources other than NOAA, this winter is going to be more severe than we have had for a good while.
Nothing at all unusual here as far as weather this year, except it was a bit more humid during the Dog Days than usual and a lack of powerful thunderstorms this spring. We had only one small tornado outbreak to the south of Indy this year.
And yet day after day I see articles of weather and climate doom on my newsfeed and read gibberish from some here that believe that BS.
I wonder how many alarmists actually get away from their computers and go see and enjoy the outdoors? How many actually observe for themselves over time if there are any changes around them?
Praying for Nikki. Every day.
Take care.
I live in Kansas not too far from considering global distances. Likewise, we had some hot days over 100 degrees. Growing up here, we have had similar weather in the 1960’s. My maple trees are already colorful, robins have been gone for weeks, mourning doves cleared out about two weeks ago as they are wont to do in September. I have started seeing some ducks already, but no geese yet. Just a typical fall in the center of the U.S.
We had zero 100 deg. days here this summer and for many summers. I think it has been over a decade since we broke the century mark.
“by far”- is that a technical term?
By your count then Russia and Canada should dominate the temperature of NH. Any info on their temps?
FinalNail,
You are touting the “Texas sharpshooter” fallacy. You shoot your the climate event rifle and then place the bullseye around any kind of “record” you can find. The weather record is short and the satellite record even shorter. So if you look for extreme events of any type anywhere on earth, you are likely to dig up some kind of record event. But, if we were to get a record cold event, I am sure you would pass it off as mere weather.
“Of course it is true, as far as instrument records go at least.”
May I suggest you investigate just how many and where and for how long we’re even had any instrument records?
When did we have enough instruments in place to qualify as a GLOBAL record?
PS One tree ring doesn’t count.
Oh Rusty, you’re a hoot. Are you sure you’re not griff?
There’s no climate emergency, just a mild beneficial warming.
That is all they have so they must beat that drum. It is funny to watch them ramp it up to absurdity, but we all know it is just normal weather.
I think you forgot to add normal climate as well.
The boiling guy got one idea right. The word warming just does not pack enough punch to headline a scare campaign. You can’t demonize warmth while selling expensive southern McMansions to retired northerners.
“It’s all BS all the way down, and they know it. But they just need to keep enough people believing it long enough so the people will”
At this stage of lif I believe it would be more likely to assume:
“It’s all BS all the way down, and they know it. But they just need to keep enough people believing it long enough To …. “
…retire on public union defined benefit plans?
Good grief!!
Looking at that USA weather map the most of place is freezing.
77deg F is sort of OK.
Where I live it sort of runs like:
< 77 F not even close to warm, cold to sort of warm
77 F – 92 F mild to warm
92 F – 100 F warm to hot.
Some things I have learned living on the edge of the outback:
1. Check the synoptic charts
2. Only look at the “best guess” temperatures the BoM provide
3. Forget about the coloring as its always wrong, pretty but wrong
4. Check the sky.
5. know that any prediction for the week is going to be wrong from day 3 onwards.
That looks reasonable, but you missed:
100 F – 120 F hot to bloody hot
I’d subdivide the < 77 F as well
< 60 F bloody cold to cold
60 F – 77 F cold to mild
“ts always wrong, pretty but wrong”
Cant respond any of the responses that that combination of words deserves. Modern life…
A typical temperature map from Summer 1934 or 1936 makes these look like late Autumn.
Lies, lies, lies and more lies. It’s all they have and all they do.
I can’t remember what a typical temperature map from 2014 or 2016.looks like.
For an example comparing a typical temperature map of Germany in 2017 to the same (actually, with LOWER temperatures) map in 2022, see above (in the instant article). Normal green versus burning-up red.
“Climate change is real.” and “Climate change is happening.”
I for one am getting really tired of hearing people uttering these statements when a changing climate isn’t the issue. There is nothing wrong with the climate changing, especially if it cannot be shown that the rate of warming and current global temperatures are not unusual in relation to the Earth’s long paleoclimate history.
As has been demonstrated in previous postings here at WUWT (and recently), the issue here is what effect the GHG effect of CO2 and other greenhouse gases is capable of having on the climate along with feedbacks. Taking advantage of the lack of scientific literacy among the masses with this misrepresentation of the issue grows increasingly frustrating to see.
I wish John Coleman would have corrected the record in that video when talking to CNN. Sadly, I never see that happen when debating the alarmists.
YES! “Climate change” as now used in common English usage means: HUMAN-caused, significant, shifts in the climate zones of the earth.
It should not be used by ANY bona fide scientist/science communicator (and if it must, ALWAYS with a clarification about what the data-driven communicator means by using it).
Janice,
I understand that lay people generally are referring to human-induced climate change when they simply say, “climate change.” I guess I am just a stickler for using more precise and accurate terminology when discussing any scientific or technical issue.
Unfortunately, for me, it still sounds deceitful when using the term as though a changing climate isn’t supposed to be happening.
The ‘Climate Scientists’ had climate redefined to be only 30 years now, instead of the thousands to millions of years that were taught in school. With that new definition the climate is always changing, it’s just long-term weather. I guess now you have to say geological climate to talk about the long-lasting climate.
I agree. Thirty years sounds like an awfully short period of time when the Earth’s climate history goes back millions and billions of years.
Hello, Jim! I am also a Chicagoan. I miss John Coleman terribly, his weather reports were a delight. I was very sorry to see him go to San Diego, but, when my son relocated there (Navy, you know!) I was able to start watching his shows again, at least online.
I never got the chance to meet him, although I would see him once in a while on the beach at Michigan City, IN, where my uncle had a place about a half-mile from his, I never wanted to bother him, but I was still a fan. Now I wish I had gone up to greet him.
Even here in New Zealand, Dan the Weather Man uses any strategy to try to get us to worry about the weather, even though it is now barely Spring and things are still very cool!
I suppose it is one way to exaggerate the importance of weather-forecasting, thus possibly making Dan’s employment more secure!
My local meteorologist called this summer “hot” despite the fact that it was cooler than 2022, 2021, 2020, 2019, 2018, 2017, 2016, and 2015. Maybe what made it so “hot” was the ‘official’ NOAA temperature at the airport had several days where the high temperature there was 4 to 6 degrees F hotter than any station in the viewing area, official and unofficial. And it didn’t raise any red flags with anyone that a reading was that much warmer than anything within 70 miles.
Obviously wrong hot temperatures become official record; obviously wrong cold temperatures must be discarded immediately.
The Earth is still in a 2.56 million-year ice age named the Quaternary Glaciation in a warmer but still cold interglacial period that alternates with glacial periods. The base period that is used is from 1850-1900 the period right after the Little Ice Age when it was still cold. It still is cold. Deaths from cold weather are about 4.6 million people per year, and deaths from hot weather are about 500,000 per year.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternary_glaciation
‘Global, regional and national burden of mortality associated with nonoptimal ambient temperatures from 2000 to 2019: a three-stage modelling study’
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanplh/article/PIIS2542-5196(21)00081-4/fulltext
“The Earth is still in a 2.56 million-year ice age . . . ”
And these silly climate scientists have no idea why we are in an ice age, and why there are interglacials.
What is the really evil and significant wrong here is that they are normalising Poor Health, amongst ‘ordinary everyday people’
How: Let’s say you are an overweight diabetic (whether diagnosed or not) slob who does very little exercise and exists on a diet of pizza, pasta, refined sugar, fructose corn syrup, booze and trash TV.
(Oh hi Boris, nice of you to look in. Wassup?)
If you are that type of
Borisperson, 60% of all US citizens now are with Europeans catching up fast, you will find that you ‘tire quickly‘e.g. You become breathless and achy just walking up a flight of stairs, or from rushing to catch a bus or shop that’s about to close or are late to an appointment. You simply don’t have any stamina anymore
Of course one thing you also notice is that even these micro-bursts of activity make you hot & sweaty – especially so if it’s even just a boring ordinary sunny day.
And there you have it – The Sunny Day is why you’re, hot, sweaty, aching, breathless and incapable of keeping up with your own kids.
And the Sun and Sunny Day have temperature, they are = Climate Change
Bingo – all those ailments are caused by Climate Change (other people) and not your own grotesque. ugly, fat lazy-habits and self.
Worse: Esp for everyone else, you will go to your doctor blaming Climate for why you feel like death warmed up – until death actually does catch up with you. Which will be sooner than later
Then: an equally fat lazy and money grubbing quack will duly oblige your ‘wishes’ and fill in a certificate noting exactly that you ‘Died from Climate‘
We are normalising our own extinction = exactly what chronic depressives of all colours do and sugar is the villain here.
And the actual physical growing/production of sugar is what’s causing the observed ‘climate effects‘
When the climate effects are modest or non-existant: No problemo. Magical Thinking (data adjustment) will create them anyway
I think that the weather reporters should standardize on a color palette such, as the rainbow, where the maximum recorded temperature (130+ deg F) is shown as the reddest color, and the coldest northern hemisphere Winter temperature (-50 deg F) is shown as the deepest blue, and let the chips fall where they will.
It seems that after decades of showing the so-called Ozone Hole as shades of blue, and the high values of ozone outside the circumpolar vortex in reds/oranges, they have recently reversed the color palette, making it difficult to compare historical maps with recent ones. More game playing!
Gaslighting.
Is word you were looking for.
Their favorite term. Let’s gaslight everything.
“The Weather Channel is propagandizing America. It is part of the “climate change causes everything, all the time, everywhere” effort to brainwash people to believe the myth that the summer of 2023 was the hottest year ever on record.”
And everywhere on the planet it’s twice as hot as everywhere else.
Grauniad and Sci Am have been saying its 4 times faster in the Arctic for some time now.
I have not watched the Weather Channel since Hurricane Katrina. I live in the South less than 100 miles from New Orleans. The coverage was a bad joke to me. The reality of the demise of New Orleans began many years prior to Katrina.
now check out wunderground.com’s tendency to provide you with the hottest station they can find in any given area for which you seek a forecast
I was a kid when John Coleman was the weatherman on WLS Chicago. He sparked my interest in weather. He was animated, entertaining, enthusiastic, and a joy to watch.
I was discussing this very thing with my wife this morning, five minutes ago in fact, The historical maximum for today occurred in 1974, 29.3C and I have not seen a record maximum which has occurred in this calendar year. On the other hand the record low, 1.1C, occurred in 1948. All of which leads me to the conclusion that it’s just weather and all the hype is pure codswallop.
The misuse of colors on weather maps has gotten out of hand. If they feel the need to use colors I think it should relate to the degree of comfort to locals. Where I live 70F is comfortable, 60F is cool and 80F is warm. They should all be neutral colors. 90F and up varying degrees of red. 50F and down varying degrees of blue. The point is different locations have different ideas of what is comfortable, their maps should relate their sense of comfort not mine or anyone else’s. What matters is comfort and safety.
It is too painful to watch Brian Stelter even for a moment.
The Weather Channel lost its way decades ago when they sold out to NBC and they wrecked it.