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Noted Australian economist Ross Garnaut – who championed former Prime Minister Julia Gillard’s carbon tax (2012-2014) now believes not having that tax is costing Australians $70 billion a year.
He seems oblivious to the fact the carbon tax would be raised from Australian consumers at a cost of $2800 per man, woman and child / per year – believing instead that Unicorns would be paying this levy – by way of their farts.
How is it possible for people that ‘smart’ – to also be that stupid?
I think he meant “carbon price rent seekers“… like himself..
I think that any policy that will benefit oneself- will seem to be a great policy- so Ross must have had some way to benefit from that tax.
h/t Tom Johnson, “China doesn’t need to worry about CO2 emissions because it’s ALREADY communist.”
A good question. A similar Question. How is it possible for an intelligent and educated population to have such stupid leaders? The question is not limited to Australia.
Has anybody seen our Marianna?
Since we learned she, er, lied on her CV she’s been missing in action…..
When the bullets are flying, you don’t stick your head above the trench.
Hmmm, two words going together
Marianna and Trench.
It’s a real low point
You might find some comic relief from this story.
Biden is the champion of all liars
Biden had an office at the University of Pennsylvania after he was done as Obama’s VP.
He was never in front of any students, never taught a course
He claimed he taught a course in Political Theory, a few days ago
He also claimed his son died in Vietnam. But he died from a brain tumor, years later
He also claimed he had a full scholarship at Syracuse University Law School, which ranks near the bottom of all law schools in the US.
He graduated near the bottom of his class
All this is in the Public Record.
He was credited with 80+ million BALLOTS, NOT VOTES, of which millions were fake ballots, while in the basement.
Talking about rotten US politics
Yes, just about everything that comes out of Joe Biden’s mouth is a lie.
You would get closer to the truth by believing just the opposite of what Joe Biden says, especially on the subject of politics.
Do you know that he was licensed to drive 18 wheelers? He couldn’t drive on Saturdays, however, due to his Jewish heritage. No joke.
And when biden says, “No Joke,” you know it’s both a lie and a joke.
But but… he gave us his word “as a Biden”
A Puerto Rican raised in the synagogues of Delaware who teaches college courses and mines coal on the side needs an occasional day of rest, even when he’s not fighting Corvette-threatening kitchen fires.
Don’t forget the wife and the cat…and the classified documents!
C’mon man….Joey marched with Nelson Mandela….he was on the beach on D-Day…he was at Ground Zero just after it happened…No one has done as much as Joey has not actually done?
HIDING THE HUNTER BIDEN EVIDENCE TO PROTECT JOE BIDEN
Info status as of December 30, 2020
As additional news comes in during October through February, this write-up will be revised and augmented.
Biden has a history of:
1) Performing near the bottom of his class, in college and in law school,
2) Repeated plagiarism, while a student and in public office.
3) Shady financial dealings with China and Ukraine,
4) Touchy-feeling women and children, in public, on video,
5) Sexually assaulting women co-workers,
6) Impeachable malfeasance relating to emoluments, while in office as VP
I can assure you, I do not like this disappointing news about Biden.
I always thought he was one of the good guys.
All of it can be easily obtained by some googling.
So much dirt exists, because he ran twice for President, bowed out twice, because Hillary was digging up too much dirt, with help of the Media that favored her. He was not gaining traction, while defending himself.
This time the Media favored Biden, so no dirt was to be found anywhere
However, all hands to the pumps to find maximum dirt on Trump, and Facebook and Twitter helped out as well.
Even the blind and deaf knew what was going on.
Influence Peddling: Biden was doing his influence peddling while VP, an impeachable offense (emoluments), similar to the insider-dealing of Spiro Agnew, the VP of Nixon.
Agnew resigned, with Nixon to follow later.
I am old enough to remember at 86
The Media: I realized the US Media was not going to cover his “activities”
Twitter and Facebook are still blocking accounts and URLs, i.e., putting a lid on the Biden shenanigans.
Twitter and Facebook employees have given 51 times more to Biden than Trump, FEC data shows.
Despite Twitter and Facebook obstructions, the Joe and Hunter Biden corruption story is soaring on social media.
It looks like those obstructions are backfiring.
It looks like the Media versions of “reality” have free reign.
George Orwell has come to pass.
Therefore, I decided to prepare my own well-researched write up.
It has been widely distributed.
As additional news comes in during October, 2020 through February, 2021, the write-up gets revised and augmented.
All in a day’s work.
While on HIS beach, far from the stinking whales his wind turbines killed, Biden and his Education Doctor wife are plotting what next to reveal to the lapdog Media for “spreading” to the folks in breadlines, who lost their jobs to folks who walked across his welded-open-border doors in Arizona
Hey, it ain’t Joe’s corvette, it’s Jill’s that she got from her first husband who tells a much different story than the ones they tell.
In 1974, Bill Stevenson, Jill’s fist husband, gave her a brown Corvette.
Biden was driving it when on a date with Jill and backed into a car and did $650 of damage, which today would be about $5,000.
The book author talking:
Bill told me that Jill seemed to be depressed later in 1974, so to cheer her up, he bought her a brand new, brown Corvette.
One day a gentleman knocked on his door and informed him that the ”Brown Corvette had backed into his car damaging the front to the tune of $650 and they promised to pay for it, but never did.”
Bill said, “They, who is they?”
The man said, “Joe Biden was driving the car, Mr. Stevenson.”
Bill wrote the guy a check and later confronted Jill, who had no answer.
He told her she then had to move out and he knew for sure Jill was clearly involved in an affair with Joe Biden, Delaware’s new U.S. Senator.
I asked Bill Stevenson how he felt at the time about the fact that Jill was having an affair with Joe Biden?
He said, “You know, I was terribly hurt by it, but I was also just as hurt and disappointed by Joe Biden, who I thought was my friend — having helped him in so many ways to get elected.”
Bill had also been told by a friend that Jill and Joe were getting unusually friendly.
Biden may not be perfect but if you are genuinely going to compare his level of honesty with Trumps, then it’s a mismatch… Trump wins every time. But I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Biden is past it, but so is Trump. Did you see his speech on the weekend where he said he beat Obama in the 2016 election and that Biden is going to start WW2? They both gotta go…
“Biden may not be perfect”
The understatement of the year.
And what do you make of Trumps dementia onset symptoms? They can’t be ignored Tom. Are you willing to vote back in a man who clearly is loosing it?
“And what do you make of Trumps dementia onset symptoms?”
Liberals love to project.
So you think he’s showing no signs? Maybe you can tell me who he beat in 2016, because he can’t? Or when WW2 was? Nothing to do with projection, just observation.
So you can’t answer the questions either? OK I see why you like Trump.
He is the most disastrous President the US has ever had.
EU bureaucrats are urging Biden to ignore the domestic content requirements, so Europe would receive “bonus” subsidies to create European jobs to build factories, ports, cranes, specialized ships, etc., for manufacturing and erecting nacelles, towers and rotor blades in Europe, to increase EU exports to the US, UK, and other markets.
BTW, the US will have at least a $1.0 trillion trade deficit and about a $2.0 trillion federal budget deficit in 2023
“He is the most disastrous President the US has ever had.”
Not according to C span… that goes to one Donald J Trump (last 100 years anyway)
You should stop getting all your information from government run propaganda sites. If you had ever watched Trump (which I’m convinced never happened), you would know that he mentions crooked Hillary often, the “Russia, Russia, Russia hoax,” and so forth. The World War Two comment completely escapes me. You should quit digging–you may never get out of that hole.
“You should stop getting all your information from government run propaganda”
I think you will find C Span is not a government agency. C-SPAN is operated by the National Cable Satellite Corporation, a nonprofit organization.
“If you had ever watched Trump (which I’m convinced never happened), you would know that he mentions ”
Haha, he mentions a lot of stuff, sometimes 3 times in the one sentence. And I do watch Trump.
“ The World War Two comment completely escapes me.”
You mean you don’t know “why” he said it, or don’t “if” he said it. He said it…
I’m sorry, I should have included left-wing sites too.
“He said it…”
Heh. One slip of the tongue makes him impaired. How about Biden’s multiple slips every time he speaks, shaking hands with ghosts, not knowing where to go on or off stage, reading his “what to do” card and still forgetting what to do. He’s destroyed the border, destroyed the energy sector, caused inflation, is trying to lock up his election opponent, is an obvious foreign agent, couldn’t get out of Afghanistan without killing and injuring our solders and leaving numerous US citizens and allies behind, essentially told the Russians to start the Ukraine war, let a Chinese balloon spy on our country, and will probably allow the Chinese to invade Taiwan. Add to the fact that he’s running a bribery business, and he should be long gone.
It was two quite major gaffs. But Trump has been saying weird stuff and repeating himself for a while now. And yep Biden is past it…. but so is Trump. Time for new blood.
“He’s destroyed the border”
Please tell me exactly what Biden has changed at the border since Trump left that destroyed it?
Where do you get your news? The entire planet has had rampant inflation since covid. But things have changed in the US. In fact compared with every other G7 economies, the United States has not just the lowest headline inflation but also the lowest core inflation.
“essentially told the Russians to start the Ukraine war…”
“let a Chinese balloon spy on our country”
the one he shot down? And you do know there were spy balloons flew over the US during Trumps time don’t you?
“Add to the fact that he’s running a bribery business… ”
Proof please. Still waiting for that.
All are Democrat talking points. Do you realize how hard it is to get a SAR? They are rare and most people will never get one. Banks are loathe to issue them. The Biden family has received hundreds. And poor Joe isn’t being called by his son to talk about the weather. They are selling access. Two former business partners said so.
No disrepsect, but I know you have words, but I’d like proof please. A reference that has a reputable link? You see word is, the Rebublicans don’t actually have any and that is why they didn’t go to a vote. So do you have any?
Reputable link! What would you consider a reputable link? The Biden’s admitting to the crime? They aren’t going to do that. And, obviously, neither are you. There are numerous videos. At some point, you need to do your own homework. I’ve never seen Trump shake hands with a ghost.
One more time… Biden is past his best. It is looking like he is loosing it.. But Biden could probably tell you that Trump didn’t beat Obama in the 2016 election.
Obama? I thought it was Hillary. Seriously! You’re losing it!!!
Of course, since Obama is running the government–you may be right!
“I thought it was Hillary.”
Oh dear. Read
You’re really trying. It’s simply amazing! Have you seen Smile?
Yes, Biden would like to believe that. The 2020 election was a farce. I agree with Trump. Apparently, if you’re a Democrat, you can challenge an election. But if you’re Trump, it’s a Federal crime to challenge an election. I think the 2020 election was stolen. Are you going to send the swat FBI team to arrest me?
“But if you’re Trump, it’s a Federal crime to challenge an election.”
No, sigh, it is a federal crime to challenge an election illegally. You know by creating fake electors.
“I think the 2020 election was stolen. “
Of course you do… but once again, not a shred of evidence, which is why the 60 cases that have gone to court, have all been thrown out. It’s also why Rudi G is being sued at the moment and losing, because he accused a couple of poor election workers of fraud.
Fake electors? What stupid nonsense. The Democrats have been pursuing fake electors for years. You are really a democrat nonsense promoter.
“The Democrats have been pursuing fake electors for years. “
Really? What evidence do you have? I’d love to see it.
Now if you want me to provide the detailed evidence about the fake electors Trump and his team dreamed up, I’m happy to.
You first though. What evidence do you have that “The Democrats have been pursuing fake electors for years?” I’m picking none….
Alternate electors are legal.
Even I know that.
What about Biden walking out on the medal of honor ceremony? He left in the middle, and no one knew what to do next. You need to hitch your wagon to another horse–maybe Harris.
One more time, Biden is past his best….. but my point is so is Trump.
In your dreams!
In fact, I think Harris would be the perfect candidate to run against. She’s even more mentally incompetent than Biden–which is hard to believe.
Harris wont be in the mix.
Please, please support Harris!
And you do know there were spy balloons flew over the US during Trumps time don’t you?
Yet you have zero evidence of that. Sad!
Yes but…..he is the pinnacle of the greatest democratic system in the world. something stinks plenty. It just goes to show if you smell foul long enough after awhile you can’t smell it.
French TV news chanel “LCI”, last month: “Biden never lies”.
(Unsaid, implied: unlike Trump.)
Don’t lose sight of the fact that Biden’s history of pathological lying brought him to the White House.
In the complete absence of an un-biased, truth-seeking media the “Lie to Lead” political model continues to serve its practitioners well.
Adam Schiff and a host of other Democrats lied strenuously and constantly about Donald Trump for four years. Where are they today? In congress.
Up until the 90’s Biden was called out numerous times by the MSM. Today, they’re bought and paid for and science isn’t far behind.
In Congress where we voted them in.
How in hell did THAT happen?
That is the natural consequence of electing people who buy your vote with bribes. Did you expect honesty? They buy your vote with your money LOL.
Did he really say Vietnam or was it Iraq? If he said Vietnam he’s really worse than even I imagined. Beau was born in 1969 and was in 1st Grade when Saigon fell.
Sorry, I meant to say Iraq.
Joe Biden is a plagiarist from over 40 years ago. He was run out of presidental politics by the News Media which used to do their jobs because of it.
That was enough moral evidence to never support Joe Biden again in any future endeavor. Something has changed in American ethics and not for the better.
The bottom line is; It is both unethical and stupid to vote for someone to represent you if that person does not and cannot represent themself first. To put it simply if you vote for political parties or their candidates you get what you have.
CFACT comments on Dominion gas fired power fight.
This is a remarkable attempt at intervention by Dominion. Nonetheless, woke liberals will continue to believe that legislation will overpower the laws of physics.Reality is not welcome in the statehouse.
At this time pending Nov elections the VA House has a Republican majority and the Rep Governor backs Dominion: https://www.governor.virginia.gov/newsroom/news-releases/2023/may/name-1002282-en.html#:~:text=RICHMOND%2C%20VA%20–%20Dominion%20Energy%20today,sixty%2Dfive%20days%20a%20year
Much is possible if Reps win Senate and hold House. Fun to watch.
Net zero sense…
“””King faces criticism after he forces FOUR ministers to fly 400 miles to his private Scottish mansion for a taxpayer-funded meeting… about carbon emissions!”””
Yes, but that meeting may prevent the impact from 2 billion Hiroshima class atomic bombs in 10 years.
The Fact Free Assertions of Climate Change
Polar bears require sea ice
Greenland and Antarctica are melting
Methane is 80 times more powerful than CO2
Warm water melts the ice cap at the grounding line. This is new
Communities depend on alpine glaciers for water.
The leading cause of coral bleaching is rising ocean temperatures
Moulin water lubricates the glacier
Tree rings are proxies for temperature.
Climate Change causes wildfires
The seals haul out on the ice to have their pups. Hauling out on shore isn’t as safe from bears.
Greenland and Antarctica are below freezing nearly everywhere nearly all of the time.
Unless you add the pound for pound comparison, CO2 vs CH4, the statement is false.
Water is warmer than ice. What else is new? Water has always been there.
It’s still going to rain and snow, so rivers will still be there. No glaciers in Hawaii.
WUWT has covered the bleaching issue many times.
Pressure from miles thick ice forms water at the bottom of the glacier, more doesn’t matter.
WUWT has covered the tree ring issue numerous times.
A one degree increase in temperature doesn’t cause the fires, lightning & people do.
Additions to the above list are welcome.
Utility power lines did in Hawaii and California during drought conditions when LIVE BROKEN lines were sparking causing grass/brush fires
And THAT is why the state of California is suing oil companies.
Al Gore would probably like polar bears to eat his manufactured meat instead of real seals.
His heavily subsidized manufactured meat?
Not that this is “newspeak”, but, Weather warfare … !!
Weather Warfare: “Beware the US Military’s Experiments with Climatic Warfare” (substack.com)
Not HAARP again, please.
I suspect that HAARP, chem_trails, DEWs, etc., are intentionally planted red-herring psyops put out to keep people confused, as a little kernel of truth is stretched beyond all bounds of reality.
“Octopus Energy has said it is struggling to invest £28bn into renewable energy projects because of delays connecting to the National Grid.Britain’s second largest household energy supplier said it was facing delays of up to 13 years to connect solar farms to the grid in a blow to Rishi Sunak’s net zero ambitions.It came as an auction for renewable energy contracts failed to garner any bids for offshore wind. No developers put forward a bid for seven new contracts to build offshore wind farms around Britain after complaints the Government’s price was too low.It is a major setback for the Prime Minister who has pledged to deliver 50 gigawatts (GW) of offshore wind by 2030, up from 14 GW today. The target is crucial to meeting the goal of achieving zero emissions by 2050.Keith Anderson, chief executive of ScottishPower, said the auction result should serve as “a wake-up call” for the Government, describing the absence of offshore wind bids “a multibillion-pound lost opportunity”.The auction’s failure comes amid growing concerns about the speed of roll-out for renewable power under net zero plans.”
“Octopus Energy has said it is struggling to invest £28bn into renewable energy projects because of delays connecting to the National Grid.
Britain’s second largest household energy supplier said it was facing delays of up to 13 years to connect solar farms to the grid in a blow to Rishi Sunak’s net zero ambitions.
It came as an auction for renewable energy contracts failed to garner any bids for offshore wind. No developers put forward a bid for seven new contracts to build offshore wind farms around Britain after complaints the Government’s price was too low.
It is a major setback for the Prime Minister who has pledged to deliver 50 gigawatts (GW) of offshore wind by 2030, up from 14 GW today. The target is crucial to meeting the goal of achieving zero emissions by 2050.
Keith Anderson, chief executive of ScottishPower, said the auction result should serve as “a wake-up call” for the Government, describing the absence of offshore wind bids “a multibillion-pound lost opportunity”.
The auction’s failure comes amid growing concerns about the speed of roll-out for renewable power under net zero plans.”
The politicians are caught between the Devil and the Deep Green Sea. The cost of deploying wind/solar power simply isn’t in their budgets in terms of grid upgrades and subsidies, but they have promised Net Zero and wind farms make them look like they mean it.
They are caught on the horns of a trilemma. Renewables that look good but cost a fortune, and achieve nothing beyind an unstable grid, fossil fuel that makes net Zero look like a salesman’s promise and is anyway spiralling out of control cost-wise as Peak Oil happens for all the usual reasons, or nuclear power which they have spent decades telling people is too dangerous and expoensive.
Net zero emissions will also mean net zero electricity.
National Grid has been saying for the last 10 months or more that unreliable projects already in the pipeline will have to wait up to 15 years to be connected to the grid. Did Octopus Energy not understand what that meant?
Leo, I had read a couple of years ago that “Peak Wind/Solar” was in 2017. With the other news being that 8 renewables companies had gone bankrupt, investors were shying away from renewables and that Germany was balking at decommissioning and replacing spent older windfarms. Having no credentials in the solar/wind business, save for common sense, I predicted that “Peak Solar” would remain at 2017.
Since then, EU big offshore wind companies who came to America from a foundering business sector in EU, are now all paying to get out of contracts that they see will put them under (they are going to fail anyway but one or two of them may be able to reinvent themselves in a different industry, say oil and gas drilling platforms, if they act quickly). Companies on government dole are inherently weak entrepreneurs.
The EV battery fire problem is starting to get media attention and it won’t go away for the fan club-
Massive problem’: Sky News host criticises sudden EV fires (msn.com)
Insurance costs will ultimately choke EV ownership as aggregation risk grows exponentially.
Not just batteries
Fears over solar panel safety as number of fires rises six-foldhttps://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/fears-over-solar-panel-safety-as-number-of-fires-rises-six-fold/ar-AA1gNz5x
no doubt Biden’s next inflation reduction act will include billions to subsidize insurance for EVs
You could be his string puller with such brilliant ideas.
Joey is already spending hundreds of taxpayer millions on EV charging stations while he refuses to get rid of his gas guzzling Corvette! Impeach Joey!
Inflation Reduction Act! It’s tough to do parody any more. Maybe an Obesity Reduction Act that spends trillions on ice cream subsidies?
EV car insurance is 2 to 3 times higher than for a gasoline car, wiping out any energy cost savings from using them.
A gasoline car should be amortized over 12 years with 144000 miles
An EV should be amortized over 8 years with 72000 miles
On top of that, the a to z, lifetime CO2 is about the same as a gasoline car.
All those countries going for EVs are royally screwing themselves, their economies and their people, plus the people in developing countries producing the raw materials for EVs
So, saw a statement by Hawaiian Electric CEO…power was turned off 6 hours before fire started…so were the circuits grounded? That would also dissipate the charging voltage from each line…otherwise, sparks from remaining charge may still create fires.
Anyone know if distribution/transmission lines, when interrupted are discharged?
Not true, according to time/dated videos taken by residents of live wires sparking and setting grass/brush fires
I believe lines can hold a charge even if interrupted…unless grounded immediately. All that is needed is enough to create a spark with charging current.
Interesting question, “Do power lines turn into capacitors when power is removed?”
The power lines were NOT turned off IN TIME
The utility is putting out lying CYA PRs
Residents were taking videos of LIVE, BROKEN power lines, that were hanging from poles on the ground, sparking, setting grass/brush on fire.
The fire department was nowhere to be found; maybe some firemen had fled, like most other people.
Also water to fight fires was withheld because of “equitable distribution issues”
The same sparking happened in California during a drought with overloaded wire and transformers burning out and sparking, causing forest fires.
Or, do non-energized distribution lines still provide static electricity when charged by high winds in dry air? I’ve received some surprising shocks from metal buildings, irrigation systems, etc. in dry, windy conditions.
Interesting anecdote! If the power lines have capacitors for power factor correction, there might be enough energy to initiate a fire. I think it is more likely that the lines were still energized.
“I believe lines can hold a charge even if interrupted…unless grounded immediately.”
Only if the LOADS are also disconnected !
Cmon , man !
Do you believe you can still draw power when the supply is turned off ?
climate and religious crazy people
Wow, yesterday a fully fledged climatista stopped by the house. An old friend of my wife. I was shocked to hear him give the full pitch- the full dogma- about green energy being cheaper- about the glories of EVs- about how the impact of wind and solar energy all over the landscape isn’t much to worry about- ironic because he’s a retired biologist who worked for the state of Wokeachusetts. When I said it isn’t really that much warmer than when I was a child- he mentioned a coal fired power plant on the coast- which sent hot water into some bay. I said, “well, maybe so, but that’s not about CO2- it’s more of an engineering problem.” He frowned on me as if I were a 5 year old.
Because I’ve been reading WUWT for a few years, along with countless YouTube videos by Tony Heller, Jon Robson, Bjorn Lomborg, Alex Epstein and many others- and I’ve read a dozen or so books on climate including my favorite by Stephen Koonin – I had comebacks to what the visitor was saying but he hardly let me speak- as if I couldn’t possibly have anything to say about his ideas. After all, he was a biologist with the state of Wokeachusetts!
Reminds me of when I used to debate with friends I grew up with who became hard core fundamentalists trying to convince me there really was a Noah’s Ark and Adam and Eve really were the parents of the entire human race. I asked one of them how many people are going to be in heaven, eventually, when the human race comes to an end- he replied something like 37,000! Wow, only that many out of tens of billions- while the rest will burn in hell for eternity, according to my friend. I replied to that- that it seems to be that God’s creation was a failure with such a low rate of humans who passed the test. He didn’t agree, of course. Crazy people in religion and climate dogma.
I read somewhere maybe 10 years ago that about 100 billion “humans” had lived and died or were living, up to this point.
so based on my friend’s theology, about .00000037 of all humans who’ve ever lived will be “saved”- the rest will roast for eternity- sounds about as logical as climate “science”
The “Garden of Eden” is about 1 billion people, mostly in Europe, who are so virtuous with their wind, solar and batteries, that it would be a great disappointment to them, if only 37,000 high-net-worth Europeans were able to buy enough climate credits to get themselves into Haven.
All the rest of us suckers will burn in hell to keep them warm.
Your hard core fundamentalist friend’s religious beliefs aren’t being written into law like the woke climatistas.
I can hardly wait for California to discover that charging millions of electric bicycles, lawn mowers and chain saws in the garage overnight is a bad idea.
I saw a tv commercial yesteray advertising electric vehicles, and the scene showed a couple parking their two EV’s in their driveway and then plugging them in to a charging cable mounted on the outside wall of the garage.
I took this as a subtle warning not to park and charge your EV inside the garage.
Yes, parking your EV outside is a good idea. That way you don’t burn down your house if the EV happens to catch on fire.
Climate dogma comes from ignorant atheist ideology that puts the smallest bug on the same level as humanity. In fact the ideology is misanthropic – actually hates humanity, and you can see that in how every species needs to be protected but “humanity is a cancer on the world”.
You are posting on the wrong site in regards to your religious/spiritual searching – try Catholic.com. The Church has a long line of the best thinkers of their day, Augustine, Aquinas, Pascal, Descartes, and Lemaitre of ‘big bang’ fame.
Attempting to respond to PCman999 I got the following response:
429 Too Many RequestsYou have been rate-limited for making too many requests in a short time frame.
Sheesh! Another WordPress stupidity? Why should WordPress care? It has another such insult about posting too many times. And now the editing functioning isn’t working.
Anyway, I was raised Catholic- it didn’t work for me- priests and nuns. I have read some of Augustine and was impressed. Pascal? I like some of his more mystical ideas. I like some thinkers in most major religions and philosophies. I see no reason to actually join any.
It’s probably related to the “Edit” software bug.
Atheists have no ‘ideology’. They don’t believe in fairy tales.
I heard there were no atheists in foxholes.
On both sides, which kind of makes Mr. Woods point.
JZ you should have asked him if he had solar panels on the roof or yard, and maybe a turbine on a tall mast in the yard. And when he says NO then just pound on him for being a typical climate hypocrite. Ask him about all the FF he uses every day, does he drive and fly and eat and breathe?
I forgot to mention that as I tried to confront him he said, “dontcha know that we have climate models that tell us how the climate will change?”. At that point I almost threw up. As a loyal burreaucrat here in Wokeachusetts, always following the party line, he’s now enjoying an almost 6 figure pension. I don’t begin to understand climate models but from reading essays here and the skeptical books- I do know it’s an extremely complicated subject. For him to just say “we have models” proves how little he knows. His simplistic logic apparently works with the “average person” since the state government is now 100% gone down the rabbit hole of nut zero. When I mentioned how expensive EVs are, with no mention of the other problems with EVs, he said “oh, there not so expensive”. Sure, with almost a 6 figure pension, they’re not so expensive. These elites forget that most people aren’t in their economic level.
Bjorn Lomborg | Don’t waste trillions on BAD Climate Policy
Global warming is a problem that we should tackle… smartly. But climate change will not mark the end of the world. The UN’s best estimate of the costs of unmitigated global warming by the end of the century is about 4% of global GDP. This is a problem, not an emergency. In our eagerness to enact climate policies, we could easily end up making the world worse off — even if we tackle climate smartly, the policies could end up costing as much as 16% of global GDP or more. With a sense of proportion, Dr Lomborg presents a coherent argument on how to tackle climate smartly. Crucially, for most of the world’s 7.5 billion people, climate change comes far down the list of priorities when faced with infant mortality from easily curable diseases and malnutrition, suffering from poor education and low energy access. Bjorn Lomborg is president of the Copenhagen Consensus Centre and author of The Skeptical Environmentalist, Cool It and How to Spend $75 Billion to Make the World a Better Place.
3 years old but an excellent presentation
I think Bjorn needs to shorten his presentation and reconsider his belief that man made CO2 is contributing to any global warming. He should examine planting more trees as the answer to absorbing any “excess” CO2.
“I think Bjorn needs to shorten his presentation and reconsider his belief that man made CO2 is contributing to any global warming.”
Yes, he should. It is amazing that Bjorn hasn’t looked at all the facts available. If he did, he wouldn’t be claiming CO2 is a problem because there is no evidence showing CO2 is a problem.
Bjorn apparently has a problem distinguishing facts and evidence from speculation and assumptions. All the climate change alarmists have are speculation and assumptions. That’s all you have too, Bjorn.
It’s not that hard to figure out, if you can tell fact from assumption.
“Global warming is a problem that we should tackle… smartly”
Bjorn should stop perpetrating claims he can’t back up with facts. Human-caused global warming causing problems for humanity being one of those claims that can’t be backed up by facts. All you are doing is parroting the assumptions of climate change alarmists. No evidence, Bjorn.
Stop it, Bjorn!
Over the years I am becoming more confused by some terminology:
3. Climate Changeä
This is a real oddity. Various Bureaus of Meteorology try to predict the weather, usually for a span of 7 days. All well and good as most people look at weather as a short term phenomenon. They also expect the various BoMs never be correct most of the time.
Now when the weather does something unpleasant like causing the temperature to shoot up to say 30deg C for a few days, suddenly this is Climate Changeä.
Now my limited understanding is the temperature is normally based on the prevailing climate of the region at that particular time in the year.
I also think I understand that the El Niño and La Niña events are part and parcel of climate and hence have effects of temperature and rainfall.
What I seem to see is that when weather does things such a producing hot or dry spells its climate or more precisely Climate Changeä. Hence weather becomes climate and Climate Changeä is the culprit.
So weather and climate are apparently the same, sort of interchangeable. This I don’t understand.
I normally consider climate to be a period of something happening over many years so some form of determination of behavior through out a year can be semi assumed.
From what I read in the media climate is something that changes from almost year to year.
This suggests that climate and weather are the same term just used depending on a media click bait exercise.
So are weather and climate the same interchangeable entities? Much of the media would suggest this to be the case.
This one has me totally confused. Throw in Net Zero, Earth is Boiling, and all the other doflangle terms and it seems a mess of adulterated whatever.
Way back in time I have always assumed that the earth was always having a typical earthy climate change cycle, sort of ice ages, hot periods etc.
It would also seem that this desire to stop the normal climate change cycle of the earth is only being carried out in the “western” world, Europe collective, USA, Canada and Australia, and anyone else I missed.
Now I get the impression that man, humans, people what to change thing with earth’s normal cycle so that the natural climate change does not occur anymore.
So I gather Climate Changeä is something about stopping the earth’s normal climate cycle happening.
All I see at present many nations on the excuse of Climate Changeä going down the economic and living standards gurgler.
So sounds more like weather, climate and Climate Changeäcan be interchanged.
Nothing makes sense any more..
Climate used to be something very long term like the climate of the tropics was hot, the climate of the Arctic was cold, the climate of temperate areas was medium. The climate of rain forests were wet and hot, the climate of deserts was dry.
Climate has been redefined to now be only around 30 years. I guess if you are talking about very long-term the phrase, geological climate, still fits.
Using Human-caused Climate Change as a description instead of using Human-caused Global Warming, is a subtle way of trying to connect CO2 to extreme weather on Earth.
To date, there has never been a connection established between how the weather unfolds on Earth, and the CO2 content of Earth’s atmosphere. Never.
There is no evidence that CO2 causes any changes in the Earth’s weather. None.
What you see today with regard to weather is from Mother Nature until proven otherwise, and that has not been done.
So my Karen-ish neighbor returned from a trip to Germany and, when asked about her top 3 things there, climate concern was her top choice. Then she relayed that thousand year-old buildings were sinking due to the substrate drying out from climate change. A search also reveals a study “proving” that Chicago is suffering a similar fate. When she said that, I turned around to watch a football game.
Anyway, I haven’t seen a takedown of the theory anywhere – what with lies traveling around the world before the truth can get its shoes on.
If by “substrate” is meant sedimentary and igneous rock, that is a remarkable theory; and one soon to be endorsed and promoted by a new generation of woke geologists.
And I bet she flew there? Tell her she is a climate hypocrite.
The Bloomberg green energy research team estimates that stopping green warming will cost $US 200 trillion with the most needed to be spent within the next 15 years.
There are about 2 billion households worldwide, that is about $100,000 per household or say $5,000 per year for the first 15 years and $1,700 per year for the next 15 years. The median worldwide household income is around $3,000 per year. That means that probably 75 percent of the households can’t pay anything.
India and China have said that to them growth is most important so they are building more coal power plants.
Say around 10% of the world’s households want to and can afford to pay something. That means that they would have to pay 10 times as much to make up the difference or $50,000 per year for the first 15 years and $17,000 per year for the next 15 years.
That is completely unaffordable.
The millionaires and billionaires of the world have a combined wealth of $208 trillion.
“Bargain”!!! Obviously written by someone who never actually made anything useful in their life. The news may be something useful but today’s media is firmly in the entertainment category. Or is there a category for the propaganda arm of parasitical political groups?
50% of US households don’t have the financial wherewithal to survive an unexpected $500 emergency expenditure. I’m certain they’ll all be rushing out to fund the “greening,” no doubt using funds garnered from the Biden administration’s successful impoverishment of the working class citizen.
Bloomberg dis another study, which may be of interest.
US/UK 56,000 MW OF OFFSHORE WIND BY 2030; AN EXPENSIVE FANTASY
The US government has the insane fantasy of wanting to build 30,000 MW of offshore by 2030, i.e., just 7 years, but several companies, building projects for Massachusetts, will be allowed to walk away from the signed PPAs, and rebid at much higher prices next year.
The UK government has the insane fantasy of wanting to build 26,000 MW of offshore by 2030, i.e., in just 7 years,
The continent-based European big wind companies have only one third of the capacity per year for building 56,000 MW offshore by 2030, or 8,000 MW/y. These companies will concentrate on the U.S. market, because the Biden “Inflation-Reduction-Act” subsidies are about much higher than in the UK
1) Vattenfall, Sweden, has put 1,400 MW on hold in 2023 (will re-evaluate its entire 4,200 MW zone), because Vattenfall spreadsheets show a “net revenue shortage” of about 40%, meaning the prices, c/kWh, offered by the UK auctions are about 40% too low.
About 7,000 MW of offshore wind bids were rewarded by the UK 4th Auction, in 2022
Zero MW of offshore wind bids were submitted for the UK 5th Auction, in 2023
2) OERSTED, Denmark, is looking forward to a $2.6 billion loss on its three US East Cost offshore wind systems, mainly due to high inflation, high interest rates, supply chain constrains and disruptions, and not being awarded additional federal and state tax credits. Oersted, etc., urges Biden to ignore the domestic content requirements of the Inflation Reduction Act, so 100% of the wind turbines will be very expensively built in Europe, with US subsidies.
3) EU big wind conglomerates want, on average, 40% more, because turnkey capital costs (foundations, turbines, cabling to shore, installation) have gone to at least $5,500/installed kW and interest rates to 6.25% in 2023, from $3,500/kW and 3% in 2021
UK and New York State bureaucrats are grossly uninformed regarding market conditions, as usual. They have zero business sense.
New York State bureaucrats calculated their estimates of offshore wind contract prices, but when the owners saw those numbers, they said, we need up to 66% more, for our spreadsheets to make business sense. See Item 4 and note
These contract prices are after 50% US subsidies.
Oersted, Denmark, Sunrise wind, original price $110.37/MWh, needs $139.99/MWh, a 27% increase
Equinor, Norway, Empire 1 wind, original price $118.38/MWh, needs $159.64/MWh, a 35% increase
Equinor, Norway, Empire 2 wind, original price $107.50/MWh, needs $177.84/MWh, a 66% increase
Equinor, Norway, Beacon Wind, original price $118.00/MWh, needs $190.82/MWh, a 62% increase
Lifetime Performance of World’s First Offshore Wind Farm
IRENA prepares glossy offshore wind reports, that 1) ignore industry cost data of offshore wind systems in the UK, 2) overestimates capacity factors, 3) underestimates decreases in output with aging, 4) underestimates O&M/MWh
IRENA is a government-controlled, offshore wind rah-rah site, that cannot be trusted
NOTE: “The all-in, turnkey capital cost associated with a typical US offshore project, before bonus tax credits related to the “Inflation-Reduction-Act”, has increased by 57% since 2021.
Increased costs of materials, energy, components, labor, and supply chain disruptions and constraints (shortage of European-owned, specialized ships) explain about 40% of that, with 60% due to increased interest rates.”, per Bloomberg recently reported, citing figures from Bloomberg-NEF
Increased financing costs are due to larger amounts borrowed/installed kW, at higher interest rates
In 2021, borrowing $3500/installed kW at 3% for 20 years would cost 3.322 c/kWh
In 2023, borrowing $5500/installed kW at 6.25% for 20 years would cost 6.879 c/kWh
I saw this tidbit in the October issue of Astronomy magazine, page 23, and thought it was interesting.
“Jupiters aurorae have been observed in ultraviolet, infrared, and visible light. The aurorae are so energetic that they could be one of the reasons the gas giant’s atmoshere is hotter than expected, based on the amount of sunlight it receives.”
Does this apply to Earth, too? Seems like it would.
But CO2 doesn’t affect the weather
Except, the Earth doesn’t have “a layer of metallic hydrogen in its outer core” and “(a) fast rotation (that) produce(s) a highly dynamic and extensive magnetosphere.” The article states that it’s due to Jupiter’s size and moon system.
I was wondering how the magnetic field figured into this.
Jupiter has a strong magnetic field. Earth has a weaker magnetic field. I wonder if this effect has been measured for the Earth?
All the ‘journalists’ who are always going on about CC, I would love to see how many of them have solar panels on the roof, or a nice solar panel array in the yard, I bet none! We should do a project like Anthony’s thermometer weather station check, find out how many climate whiners have solar panels at home, and then out them.
Remember to add the size of their home, their car/truck/SUV, their utility bills, etc.
I’ve seen some popular YouTube’ers, who’ve trumpeted their climate beliefs, embark on making a NetZero home and making videos of the progress.
Invariably, the ‘NetZero’ home is a colossal mansion, with many more times the CO2 of a normal, modern efficient home already baked in, in advance before any heat pump gets turned on.
The whole green insanity is a popularity craze, virtue signaling for fame and fortune.
In retrospect, it is amazing how many of us survived childhoods spent in 1,200 square foot cottages.
The more I hear from the climate alarmists the more they seem to be very similar to the US prohibitionists of the early 20th century. Which culminated in the disaster of the 18th amendment to the US constitution banning the sale of alcoholic beverages. God save us from the do gooders!
The UK Parliamentary Defence Committee has just produced a report on Decarbonising the Militsry. It is an unfocused , disjointed, iunrealistic, ignorant piece of work. Military CO2 comes out of funnels, jet pipes, vehicle exhausts. If these idiots get their hands on military CO2 we can kiss our already pretty pathetic defence capability goodbye.
I saw an article yesterday where the U.S.military is looking into producing a electric-powered main battle tank.
Given current technology, any military general who would support this project should be fired as soon as a Republican gets in the White House. They are not fit to lead the U.S. military, as obviously, they are easily influenced by propganda and live in a false reality. We want our generals to be living in the Real World.
The real data behind the new COVID vaccines the White House is pushing
By Marty Makary and Tracy Beth Høeg
Published Sep. 14, 2023, 9:02 p.m. ET
“What if I told you one in 50 people who took a new medication had a “medically attended adverse event” and the manufacturer refused to disclose what exactly the complication was — would you take it?
And what if the theoretical benefit was only transient, lasting about three months, after which your susceptibility goes back to baseline?
And what if we told you the Food and Drug Administration cleared it without any human-outcomes data and European regulators are not universally recommending it as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is?
That’s what we know about the new COVID vaccine the Biden administration is firmly recommending for every American 6 months old and up.
The push is so hard that former White House COVID coordinator Dr. Ashish Jha and CDC head Mandy Cohen are making unsupported claims the new vaccine reduces hospitalizations. long COVID and the likelihood you will spread COVID.
None of those claims has a shred of scientific support. ”
Be governed accordingly.
When the government’s lips are moving…
We’re doomed, Antarctica this time
Antarctic sea-ice at ‘mind-blowing’ low alarms experts
NASA’s GISTEMP Land Ocean Temperature Index “LOTI” is out for August. So far in 2023 there have been 6755 changes made to data all the way back to 1880. And 1723 just in August. That’s on course to be the most changes made to the available records in a calendar year. The WayBack Machine can be gleaned for complete records back to 2009 except for 2011. Here are the numbers:
2023 6755 So far up through August
Ooops 2013 ’14 ’15 & ’16 Are missing too.
It’s higher than that. If you modify the gio.py file to report more decimal places you’ll see that each monthly entry changes, albeit by a small amount, on each update. So for 2023 there has actually 13764 changes.
Thanks, now the question is, “How far back do the gio.py files go?”
Back when the great John Daly was alive, I captured the current temperature data on Death Valley (he was concerned that they were going to manipulate those temperatures). It was thought that deserts would show the effects of the GHE first–no water vapor. Since then, they have seriously modified the temperatures. The older temperatures have been lowered, and the more recent temperatures are higher. It’s pure propaganda–obviously.
I heard a guest on Fox News this morning claiming that in 2017 and 2018, Joe Biden declared about $12,500,000.00 in income to the Internal Revenue Service.
In 2019, after declaring a run for president, Joe claimed that he earned about $7,000,000.00, in 2017 and 2018.
Where’s the missing $5 million, Joe? Why the discrepancy, Joe?
Here’s Joe, reporting different income amounts for the same period of time on two different legal documents.
it will be interesting to see what the Biden camp says about this.
I looked for Fox news Biden taxes and did not find it….Impeachment Inquiry is asking for bank records….if banks show Biden received millions ….then taxes are next…I think Joey is finally “ovah” and all he is doing is delaying and hoping for a way out…he calls it “malarkey” but refuses to show records which would clear this matter up. Bye bye and good riddance to bad rubbish named Joey.
“good riddance to bad rubbish”
One of my favored old sayings. 🙂
What is ironic is one of Joe Biden’s jobs in Ukraine for the Obama administration was to get Ukraine to crack down on corruption, and as part of that, the U.S., via Joe Biden, presented Ukraine with some laws they thought Ukraine should enact, and one of those laws made it a crime for a relative of a government official to receive money in exchange for political influence from the elected relative.
We need a law like that here in the United States.
“…and one of those laws made it a crime for a relative of a government official to receive money in exchange for political influence from the elected relative.”
Good law. The moment we find any actual evidence that Joe exerted any such influence, we should search for a similar law here to charge him with. If not, then we should pass one. Too bad it wouldn’t be retroactive – Doh! Sorry 45….
Haven’t watched this yet (been following the rugby world cup) but it looks fascinating: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt2AuVQKpq0
Canada’s woke nightmare.
Having now watched it this is quite disturbing – this could be Scotland in a few years, England after that. There is a rising tide of dangerous ideology.
Almost 22,000 comments.
There is a tyrant behind that mask Justin Trudeau wears.
The radical Democrats are trying to steer the United States in that same destructive direction, too. They want to take away our freedoms. They want us to obey. Or else.
I think there is a key quote in there; “The psychopaths have learned to use compassion.” I would expand that to encompass other dangerous mental disorders as well – pedophiles have learned to use ‘progressive’ trans ideology to push for decriminalisation and ‘normalising’ of pedophilia.
This image is from the book “Pathogenesis: How germs made history”, why have I sent this? Because it actually mentions the Medieval Warm Period and it’s impact. Later on it mentions the Little Ice Age as starting at the end of the 13th century with its impact.
I started to think about the relationship between climate and epidemics, whether epidemics or pandemics are a proxy for climate or weather.
The medieval warm period lasted from 1000 to 1300 according to this book, if levels of carbon dioxide lag temperatures by approximately 800 years, then CO2 would start to rise around 1800 and continue to increase until the year 2100 due to the effects of the medieval warm period, after this levels should start to drop as the effects of the little ice age start.
A graph of galactic radiation from Oulu shows changes in solar activity over the last two cycles. Galactic radiation is repelled by the magnetic field of the solar wind. Changes in galactic radiation indicate a weakening of the sun’s magnetic activity.
story tip: https://www.noaa.gov/news/world-just-sweltered-through-its-hottest-august-on-record
I think it’s misleading to say the U.S. is warming rapidly given that this is using only 15 years of data right?
Definitely. Fifteen years is nothing. Thirty years is nothing.
We have written temperature records that go back several hundred years. Those written records show it was just as warm in the recent past as it is today.
There is more CO2 in the atmosphere today than there was in the recent past, yet it is no warmer today than then, so it is logical to assume that CO2 has had little effect on the atmospheric temperatures. More CO2 today, but it’s not any warmer.
A couple of decades ago, I was arguing with an alarmist about what was causing the surface to warm up. I said that a simple atmospheric model I had created indicated that it wasn’t due to the GHE but to a change in albedo. (Two patches of land, one without vegetation and one with vegetation—all else being equal the patch with vegetation will be darker and absorb more sunlight.) He asked me how many layers that my model had had, and I said four or five. He said I couldn’t model the atmosphere with just five layers—I needed hundreds. I told him that one layer would be sufficient if it was reasonably accurate. And I wasn’t modeling everything about the atmosphere—just the energy flows.
It’s interesting, but a couple of years ago I checked with the current crop of climate models, and they only had about thirty layers—not hundreds. Since that time, I have made a few simplifying assumptions and created a model with n layers. Then it’s easy to take the limit as n goes to infinity. So much for hundreds of layers.
“A couple of decades ago, I was arguing with an alarmist”
It’s amazing this insanity has been going on this long. As long as the internet is old.
Not that there were not arguments pro and con before the internet, but the internet made these arguments available to all.
I so much wished there had been an internet back in the 1970’s when the Human-caused Global Cooling nuttiness was going on. Oh, how i wanted to weigh in on the unscientific behavior I was seeing.
The climate alarmists did the same thing with Human-caused Global Cooling that they did with Human-caused Global Warming: They presented speculation, and assumptions as proven facts.
They *never* had any evidence that humans were causing the climate to cool. And they don’t have any evidence that humans are causing the climate to warm today, either.
The difference is I can complain about it now. This, the internet, is much better than writing a complaint to the Letters section of Scientific American.
This “Human-caused” Delusion has become a Monster. Based on nothing. It’s Mass Hysteria. Unfortunately, the internet helps to foster this delusion. That, and the Big Bucks (money).
“I so much wished there had been an internet back in the 1970’s when the Human-caused Global Cooling nuttiness was going on.”
I remember having to dial-in with a phone modem. The software allowed you to edit offline and then when you dialed-in, it uploaded your comments and download any new comments. That was also back when Compuserve was going strong. My argument happened to be on the Republican forum. The Science and Math forum was being held in sway by a retired meteorologist who absolutely believed in global warming. For some reason, the sysops protected him.
I also spent some time on the SciFi Forum. They had a science section. The usual argument was about evolution. The various creationists who engaged loved to argue that Evolution was only a theory. They apparently thought that laws were “proven theories.” Then a new group showed up promoting global warming. They sounded exactly like the creationists.
Update from Berlin: Activists spray paint the columns of the Brandenberg Gate to demand action on climate. These idiots appear to be getting desperate.
Climate activists spray-paint Brandenburg Gate to demand political action | AFP – YouTube
As most here already suspect ….
What is with this ?
Climate change: the dimensional haircut?