From Steve Milloy at JunkScience.com
10 bogus climate claims from August 2023 debunked here.
Climate Fact Check: August 2023 Edition
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Well the Category 6+ gaslighting we had all last week is finally reaching its anti-climax as a weak tropical storm in Nova Scotia.
I woke my wife up laughing at the weather app on my phone which said (I swear it’s true):
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/!\ Hurricane Local Statement
Possible light rain
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So far no rain. Current conditions in north central Connecticut: overcast with an occasional light breeze. 67°F, like a UK heat wave, nearly 20°C.
“Category 6+ gaslighting we had all last week is finally reaching its anti-climax “
Nicely worded. About half-way through Hurricane Lee’s life span (Tropical Depression to now) I thought of documenting some of the news stories about its approach to the US East Coast. It was going to be bad!
Several other storms turned north, and I expected H. Lee to do the same. TS Margot — finally — seems to have selected a path that will go over the Azores.
Storm 15 is doing the same. Nothing else is out there at the moment, so likely no US worries for at least ten days.
. . . and let’s not forget about the impact of the woke Biden administration’s warning to scientists about “disrespecting” indigenous knowledge, including “spirits.”
“Hawaii’s Department of Land and Natural Resources’ Deputy Director M. Kaleo Manuel advocated for ‘indigenous knowledge’ and delayed a request for water diversion to fight the Maui wildfires due to possible impacts on a local farmer, according to a letter sent by a Hawaiian water management campaign.
— https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/09/09/biden-admin-hosted-indigenous-knowledge-seminars-that-warned-scientists-about-disrespecting-spirits-report/
Yes, it has—in fact—come to this!
Or course this sort of thing is now epidemic in Wokeachusetts. From a local newspaper:
Melding Indigenous Know-how, science
subtitled “$30M grant launches initiative to tackle global environmental problems”
A new center at the University of Massachusetts Amherst aims to harness both Indigenous and western environmental science to tackle issues relating to climate change, food insecurity and archeological preservation.
Apparently, if someone is an indigenous person, that makes them an expert on climate change, food insecurity and archeological preservation. 🙂
The wokesters are facing maximum cognitive dissonance these days. Endangered Right Whales killed by excessively loud underwater noise from offshore wind development and disrespected spirits in Nevada who don’t want their Lithium disturbed. Like the horse in Animal Farm, the useful idiots are disposable when the Ends justify the Means.
Imagine offshore oil wells off Nantucket or coal mines outside Reno. I’m sure the silence would be just as deafening as it is with putting up bird shredders (with convenient automatic carcass removal) and lithium mines for house-fire starters.
September 16, 2023 7:23 am
The number one question in climate science?
“How do you feel”
If you’re not sure how they feel…
Guardian Australia asked seven leading climate scientists to describe how they felt…
experts feel deep sadness – and resentment – while dreading what lies ahead”
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jul/25/northern-hemisphere-heatwaves-europe-greece-italy-wildfires-extreme-weather-climate-experts
September 16, 2023 8:22 am
Living in the Time of Dying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UftuDAkwM3I&t=32s
Living in The Time of Dying is an unflinching look at what it means to be living in the midst of climate catastrophe and finding purpose and meaning within it. Recognising the magnitude of the climate crisis we are facing, independent filmmaker Michael Shaw, sells his house to travel around the world looking for answers. Pretty soon we begin to see how deep the predicament goes along with the systems and ways of thinking that brought us here. Featured in this documentary are Professor of Sustainability and founder of the Deep Adaptation movement Jem Bendell, award winning journalist and author of “The End of Ice” , Dahr Jamail, Dharma teacher and author of Facing Extinction Catherine Ingram and Stan Rushworth, a Native American Elder, teacher and author who brings an especially enlightening viewpoint to these questions. While it becomes clear that catastrophic climate change is now inevitable it also opens up a whole new set of questions: How exactly did we arrive at this point? What new choices can we make now re how to live our lives and what actions make sense at this time. The people interviewed in the documentary, all highly regarded and well known spokespeople on the issue, argue it’s too late to stop what is coming but in no way is it too late to regain a renewed, life giving relationship with our selves and our world.
a professor of sustainability? Like, you can get a doctorate in that?
a Dharma teacher?? WTF??
and of course a Native American Elder!
September 16, 2023 8:27 am
From the first entry in the article: “No global warming since January 2015…”
Of course, the Warmists will say that you’re cherry-picking dates. But that’s largely irrelevant. It would still mean that the signal from natural warming, in this case from the prior strong 2015-2016 El Niño, is still overwhelming any long-term trend (meaning, it “really stands out”). We shouldn’t be having any “pauses” anymore. We were supposed to be in a situation by now where a long-term anthropogenic warming trend was going to swamp all natural variability.
September 16, 2023 9:16 am
The writer of the LAT article, and her sources, appear to be bitten by the ClimateHoax™ bug. Mush for minds can’t separate weather and climate, nor fact from mirage.
Word meanings for all the folks writing this drivel, also present problems.
There is a distinction between “rare” and “unprecedented”.
Might I suggest anyone thinking of being a “climate scientist” take a long class focusing on world history and historic weather. Now that would be unprecedented!
September 16, 2023 12:12 pm
The US Bloomberg Financial News green energy research team estimates that stopping green warming by 2050 will cost $US 200 Trillion(with a T) with the most needed to be spent within the next 15 years.
There are about 2 billion households worldwide, that is about $100,000 per household or say $5,000 per year for the first 15 years and $1,700 per year for the next 15 years. The median worldwide household income is around $3,000 per year. That means that probably 75 percent of the households can’t pay anything. India and China have said that to them growth is most important so they are building more coal power plants. Say around 10% of the world’s households want to and can afford to pay something. That means that they would have to pay 10 times as much to make up the difference or $50,000 per year for the first 15 years and $17,000 per year for the next 15 years. Who can pay $50,000 per year to stop the temperature from going up 1.5 degrees Celsius? That is unaffordable. story tip
Mitigation seems much cheaper. Getting $200 air conditioners for the two-thirds of households that need one would cost less than $300 billion, a thousand times less. Developing cooling fabrics that use solar power and thermoelectric cooling should cost far less than $1 trillion.
Plus, the Sun is in a Grand Solar Minimum with NOAA forecasting that the Sunspot Number, which is around 110 now, should start dropping in 2025 reaching single digits in 2031, tenths of a digit in 2034, and zero in 2040 where their forecast ends. The cooler sunspots are associated with hotter solar areas so that means less solar energy and cooler temperatures. The last time this happened was in the 1600s and it got cold enough to cause many famines.
https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/products/predicted-sunspot-number-and-radio-flux
Bloomberg has made its article public: https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2023-07-05/-200-trillion-is-needed-to-stop-global-warming-that-s-a-bargain?embedded-checkout=true
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September 16, 2023 2:10 pm
August 2023 was the warmest August on record according to every single data set that has so far reported, whether surface or satellite.
This follows on from July 2023, which was the warmest July, and threfore the warmest month, ever recorded by instruments.
What other ‘facts’ are required?
Well, you said these big increases were “completely natural spikes”. If ‘completely natural’, then you’d have to explain what what this ‘completely natural’ cause was.
Say, the impact of an underwater volcano that took place nearly 2 years ago?
Even Spencer and Christie acknowledge in their latest UAH update that the influence of this volcano “will be minor, perhaps a few hundredths of degree”.
No. It’s excess man-made heat that has been building up for years and has largely been absorbed by the the ocean now starting to come out into the atmosphere, as it was inevitably going to do.
No. It’s excess man-made heat that has been building up for years and has largely been absorbed by the the ocean now starting to come out into the atmosphere, as it was inevitably going to do.
Why just now though and not say 8 years ago? Why July 2023? Seems convenient to blame something like this on CO2.
Why just now though and not say 8 years ago?
That’s like asking “why does heat take time to transit between the atmosphere and oceans”?
If the earth’s surface is mostly ocean (~70%) and if this takes up most of the excess heat we have been receiving due to increased downwelling IR radiation, then you would expect there to be a lag between heat uptake of the oceans and heat returning to the atmosphere.
The nature and duration of this lag will be dictated by natural ocean currents and overturning, etc. But the one thing we can be assured of is that it will happen eventually. And it’s happening now. It was always going to at some point.
roflmao.. down-welling IR does not warm the oceans.
“Everyone Is Now Dumber” – Billy Madison – YouTube
Haven’t you learnt anything….. or do you still boil water by heating from above.
How did you get to be so, so dumb !!
… and if this takes up most of the excess heat we have been receiving due to increased downwelling IR radiation,
That is a big assumption because it appears that most of the heating of ocean water is a result of visible light being absorbed at depth, with only surface warming, contributing to evaporation, resulting from IR and UV.
You do know that the atmosphere is WARMED BY the oceans, not the other way around don’t you?
You do know “sensible heat” cannot penetrate the ocean surface more than a tiny fraction of a mm, don’t you.
You do know that the atmosphere has been cooling since the last major El Nino, don’t you.. please explain how that warms the ocean.
You do know that the atmosphere did not warm from 12000-2015, don’t you… please explain how that warmed the ocean
Please explain how winters get cold if all this “human” heat is retained in the atmosphere.
You really are on a “totally clueless” trip today, aren’t you.
Displaying every bit of ignorance you can muster.
ps … looks like a strong Arctic intrusion for the US this winter is a strong possibility…. won’t be pleasant. !
You would benefit from several years in primary school and junior high, so you could maybe learn some basic science…
… and something to get more than one of your brain cells operational.
Noted that you are unable to counter a single thing I said…
… or to answer a single question asked.
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note: typo correction for above post
You do know that the atmosphere did not warm from 2001-2015,
“will be minor, perhaps a few hundredths of degree”.
That is several times larger than the amount in contention between 2016 and today. A few hundredths of a degree cooler (if you think the number is significant) would continue the previous 8+ years hiatus.
It is an uphill struggle to remove heat from the oceans when IR radiation only takes place at the surface, and almost all of the heat is distributed throughout the mixed-layer. Conduction is equally difficult because the atmosphere is warmer than the surface water in most places on Earth, which is why coastal or island climates, moderated by maritime breezes, are so valued.
Oh come on Rusty. How many times do we have to go over this? Temperatures are getting slightly warmer. It may be partially enhanced by excess CO2 in the atmosphere. It may be all, mostly, or partly natural variation. It doesn’t really matter. The effects are beneficial. There is NO CLIMATE EMERGENCY!
The ‘big picture’ is that we are at the warmest we have ever been, globally, since man started measuring temperatures with instruments.
The climate scientists have been warning us about this for decades; and for decades sites like this have denied and dismissed them.
The turkeys are now coming home to roost, as they always do.
“The ‘big picture’ is that we are at the warmest we have ever been, globally, since man started measuring temperatures with instruments.”
Do you not realize how incredibly short a time that is? And that when we started, it was much colder? Do you wish it was still that cold? If so, you can move to Northern Canada.
