China Rebuffs John Kerry–Xi Tells Him, It’s Business as Usual for China


By Paul Homewood

Chinese leaders rebuffed attempts by John Kerry, President Biden’s climate envoy, to persuade them to commit to tougher climate action during three days of talks in Beijing, a response that suggested that tensions between the countries are making it difficult to work together on a crisis that threatens the planet.

Mr. Kerry emerged late Wednesday from the lengthy negotiations in Beijing with no new agreements. In fact, the Chinese president, Xi Jinping, insisted in a speech that China would pursue its goals to phase out carbon dioxide pollution at its own pace and in its own way.

Still, Mr. Kerry appeared buoyed that the world’s two biggest polluters had restarted discussions, which had been frozen for a year because of strained relations over Taiwan, trade and other issues. He insisted he was not disappointed in the outcome, noting that just talking marked progress.

“We had very frank conversations but we came here to break new ground,” Mr. Kerry said, adding, “It is clear that we are going to need a little more work.”

It is not hyperbole to say that the extent of global warming depends on decisions made by China and the United States. China is now responsible for almost a third of global emissions, more than all other developed nations combined. To avoid the worst consequences of a warming world, it is critical that the United States, the world’s largest emitter throughout history, work with China to slash carbon pollution, experts say.

Mr. Kerry had hoped to persuade China to start reducing its carbon emissions on a faster timeline and to quickly phase out its heavy use of coal, the dirtiest fossil fuel. While the United States generates 14 percent of global carbon emissions, China is responsible for 31 percent and its pollution is increasing every year. China has said it would hit peak emissions before 2030 and stop adding carbon to the atmosphere by 2060.


Mr. Xi, who did not meet with Mr. Kerry during the envoy’s visit this week, said that China will follow its own timetable regarding emissions reductions. “The pathway and means for reaching this goal, and the tempo and intensity, should be and must be determined by ourselves, and never under the sway of others,” he said in a speech Wednesday according to the official People’s Daily.

The discussions with Chinese leaders around the country’s coal expansion were among the most challenging, Mr. Kerry said. China has built a number of new coal-fired plants in the past two years, locking the country into its continued use. Mr. Kerry tried unsuccessfully to prod China to curtail its use of coal and implement a plan to cut methane, a powerful greenhouse gas that leaks from oil and gas wells and coal mines.

In short, China has told John Kerry to get lost. They intend to carry on as before, putting economic growth above all else. The fact that Kerry did not even get to talk to President Xi is telling in itself, as it is Xi who will make the decisions, not the Chinese officials he did see.

Meanwhile, the dreadfully inadequate US Treasury Secretary, Janet Yellen, shows us all who is really in charge here!

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July 22, 2023 10:04 am

Needs more psychedelic mushrooms.

Bryan A
Reply to  Scissor
July 22, 2023 4:27 pm

At least they weren’t Psychotic Mushrooms. Though the Biden Administration has little need for Psychotic Mushrooms, A form of Psychosis is an apparent requirement to be part of the administration

Rich Davis
Reply to  Scissor
July 22, 2023 10:34 am

Apparently the entire Buyden Administration is on regular rations.

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  Scissor
July 22, 2023 10:35 am

Maybe if he indulged- he would have realized the world is just fine right now and doesn’t need saving.

Joseph Zorzin
July 22, 2023 10:33 am

Kerry must be incredibly stupid. Everybody- well most people- well all the people who read this blog- knew perfectly well, that China wasn’t going to offer Kerry anything. Maybe he could have suggested to China, given that nation’s very productive industrial capacity, to mass produce nuclear reactors.

Walter Sobchak
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
July 22, 2023 11:54 am

I have heard John Kerry speak for many many years. I have never heard him say anything that was not incredibly stupid. He is now, and always has been, an incredibly stupid man.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Walter Sobchak
July 22, 2023 1:28 pm

And Kerry has been appointed Climate Czar by another incredibly stupid man.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 22, 2023 4:50 pm

Confucius say: 乔拜登愚蠢

For anyone struggling with the Chinese language, this helps:乔拜登愚蠢&op=translate

Walter Sobchak
Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 22, 2023 5:35 pm

Stupid? Yes, more importantly, corrupt and senile.

Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
July 22, 2023 4:45 pm

My understanding is that China is building more nuclear power stations right now than every country in the world combined.

Xi says China will comply with ‘NetZero by 2050’ agreements by 2060. Well kind of, knowing full well the whole idea will be out the window by then.

Which means China will likely begin retiring their fleet of coal fired power stations, just as their nuclear fleet begins to come on line.

As the decommissioning of their coal begins in 2060, so the commissioning of new nuclear begins.

Meanwhile, the west is still squabbling over wind and solar.

Confucius say; Restern wold stoopid……

Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
July 22, 2023 7:53 pm

It’s worse than we thought! – they could have met him, made some vague promises just to make nice and smiled in front of the cameras, but they have totally disrespected Kerry and the Biden admin.

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  PCman999
July 23, 2023 4:57 am

China is an amazing country with a continuous civilization going back thousands of years. They know how to play “the long game”. They are amazed at how naive and stupid the west has become in recent years. Whatever anyone may think of Henry Kissinger, it’s worth reading his “On China”. It’s only about 1,000 pages. He recently said something about how the Russian and Chinese leaders would always be happy to talk with him and they’d do it respectfully. I mean- heck- the guy was in the American army in WWII and he’s still breathing.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
July 23, 2023 6:52 am

If Henry can get the Chicoms to stop attacking the United States, that would be a good thing. But I’m skeptical anything like that is going to happen.

I think reining in the Chicoms is going to take serious economic sanctions on them, to the point of endangering their economy, and I think Trump plans to do just that if elected.

July 22, 2023 10:34 am

If Kerry is the answer then I hate to think what the question was.

John Hultquist
Reply to  Ian_e
July 22, 2023 10:41 am

If I were elected president, the question would be “Who should I get rid of first?”

Rich Davis
Reply to  John Hultquist
July 22, 2023 10:51 am

Better question is “Are there any worth keeping?”

Nah, fire them all as a start. Then maybe hire back 1% of them to fulfill the actual Constitutionally-authorized functions of the Federal government.

Unfortunately the president can’t just fire the Deep State ‘workers’, we have to replace most of Congress to be able to pass laws to abolish the unconstitutional bureaucracies.

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  Rich Davis
July 22, 2023 12:35 pm

A very tough president could clean house. All you need to do with deep state workers is move their office to the middle of nowhere. It’s an old and tried method.

Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
July 22, 2023 2:59 pm

And what if they slow walk the whole process?

The point being is that the institution can always say “No” to any direction of the POTUS, even violate direct orders and even Executive Orders.

There is no framework for disciplining outright subordination if the unappointed directors and bureaucrats decide that the POTUS should be ignored or even subverted.

45 wanted to get out of Afghanistan. You would think that the CiC would have some authority. The DoD blew him off and slow-walked it, that is, it wasn’t a NO, it “was, we will do it in our time” which is to say “never”.

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  AWG
July 22, 2023 3:15 pm

The president CAN move offices and individual employees. It happened to my brother-in-law. They don’t ask- they tell.

Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
July 22, 2023 5:00 pm

Hmmmmmm……How about moving them to China.

Reply to  John Hultquist
July 22, 2023 10:51 am

I’d make sure there were plenty of fossil fuel and/or nuclear powered electric chairs available.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Ian_e
July 22, 2023 10:57 am

Answering Jeopardy style:

Who is the most worthless politician Massachusetts ever produced?

Walter Sobchak
Reply to  Rich Davis
July 22, 2023 11:55 am

I am not sure about that. Have to ever listened to Ed Markey?

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  Walter Sobchak
July 22, 2023 12:46 pm

All politicians in Woke-achusetts are awful.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Walter Sobchak
July 22, 2023 5:20 pm

Ha ha! Yaw right Waltah, I fuggott about Ed Mahkee. Now HE’S a *$&@ idiot!

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  Rich Davis
July 22, 2023 12:43 pm

The current one- our lesbian governor Maura Healey. Not only is she on board with the state’s net zero by ’50 law but this year she shut down all forestry work on almost a million acres of state forest. She put together a committee of bureaucrats, academics and a former light weight author for the IPCC (Bill Moomaw) to come up with guidelines on how to do forestry on state land in such a way as to help save the planet- meaning, cut much lighter and less often or not at all- which, as a forester for 50 years, I can declare is ignorant. Also, virtually all of her appointments are of the politically correct persuasion- just like Biden has done. I doubt she has appointed a single white male heterosexual. Unfortunately, there isn’t a single politician in this state willing to confront her policies. It’s a one party state that would make Stalin proud. The state burreacrats don’t all agree with her policies but their salaries and benefits are very generous so they shut up and look forward to their retirement with a pension that offers them 80% of what they “earned”. Some retire after 25 years- which makes sense for military and cops but not paper pushers.

Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
July 22, 2023 5:26 pm

On the other hand:

SNP [Scottish Nationalist Party] admits to felling 16 million trees to develop wind farms

I’ll add that the very recently ‘resigned’ SNP leader, and her husband, Peter Murrell, the party’s former chief executive (Oh! what a surprise!), are being criminally investigated for, amongst other things, embezzlement.

How much wood would a woodchuck chuck
if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
He would chuck, he would, as much as he could,
and chuck as much wood as a woodchuck would
if a woodchuck could chuck wood.

The shot I have attached is of the ‘Murrell’ household (Mrs. Murrell nee Sturgeon is rumoured to have a local French lady of intimate acquaintance) which looks more like a murder scene from CSI Investigations than a financial crime scene.

Comrade Biden and his son Hunter has nothing on this lot.

Bryan A
Reply to  Ian_e
July 22, 2023 4:37 pm

I’ll take John Kerry for 2000 Alex…
He is the main Hypocrite in the US government “Clown World” with the largest Messiah Complex!

Curious George
July 22, 2023 10:52 am

He did not cut a new Iran deal. God helped America.

David S
July 22, 2023 11:01 am

This is a rare instance when I agree with China. We should tell Kerry to get lost too.

Walter Sobchak
Reply to  David S
July 22, 2023 11:56 am

We don’t have to tell him to get lost. He is lost — in a fog bank. We do have to get him out of the public trough.

July 22, 2023 11:53 am

So the world’s most prolific CO2 producer continues to tell the world to mind their own business and continues to take advantage of the manufacturing lost by those countries that think they are saving the world. Will the useful idiots ever learn they are being played?

Walter Sobchak
Reply to  mleskovarsocalrrcom
July 22, 2023 5:37 pm

Played? Not played. Paid. The Big Guy is getting paid.

July 22, 2023 12:33 pm

Sorry can’t help it … When the Paris Agreement (2015) came into being, the magic number was 1.5. Perhaps China’s completed climate summit (2023) means they are aiming to hit the magic number 2.3.

Rud Istvan
July 22, 2023 1:24 pm

China didn’t just snub Kerry and his message. They deliberately insulted him (and Biden). While Kerry was in China, Xi held a two day confab on climate to declare they would deal with it in their way on their time. Kerry was NOT invited.

Kerry is so dumb he reported back he had ‘constructive dialogue’. Probably meant talking to himself.

Reply to  Rud Istvan
July 22, 2023 5:43 pm

Lurch aint that dumb. He reported to Biden that he had ‘constructive dialogue’ in order not to get the Hair Dryer treatment (euphemism for an enraged bollocking delivered at half time by the manager of the losing side of a Rugby or Football team in the UK) reported by the Biden PR office as said ‘constructive dialogue’.

But it’s coming.

Rich Davis
Reply to  HotScot
July 23, 2023 4:36 am


Tom Abbott
July 22, 2023 1:25 pm

From the article: “It is not hyperbole to say that the extent of global warming depends on decisions made by China and the United States. China is now responsible for almost a third of global emissions, more than all other developed nations combined. To avoid the worst consequences of a warming world, it is critical that the United States, the world’s largest emitter throughout history, work with China to slash carbon pollution, experts say.”

It *is* hyperbole, and CO2 is not a pollutant.

China doesn’t want to work with the United States on reducing Chinese CO2. What are you going to do then?

July 22, 2023 1:33 pm

Joe has to go…Kerry too…Yellen also…all those demrats gotta go.

Reply to  antigtiff
July 22, 2023 5:31 pm

The useful idiots want to be wary of Chinese cancel culture with impure thoughts-
Chinese military expert who filed patent for Covid vaccine died in mysterious circumstances | Daily Mail Online

Reply to  antigtiff
July 22, 2023 5:44 pm

Oh come on!

They are doing a brilliant job. Don’t stop them now.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  antigtiff
July 23, 2023 7:01 am

“all those demrats gotta go”

That should be the sane people’s mantra.

The radical Democrats *are* the problem. All of them. And any Repubicans who vote with the radical Democrats are also the problem and should be voted out of office, too.

Edward Katz
July 22, 2023 2:24 pm

Hopefully the delegates at the upcoming COP 28 conference pay close attention to Xi’s notification of China’s intentions. If they would and had any common sense, they’d cancel it because it will achieve nothing—like all the earlier ones. But that would mean that all the dignitaries who attend these meetings would have to forego a free ride.

Reply to  Edward Katz
July 22, 2023 5:53 pm

COP28 is already effed. Biden declared he would not make reparations to climate affected countries. This years objective I believe.

A strangely sensible Biden declaration for once, as every country is climate affected in one way or another*.

*Mid July in the South East of England where, rather than enjoying the ‘heatwave’ the rest of Europe is ‘enduring’, we are ‘enjoying’ temperatures as high as 16ºC. To date climate change has delivered us temperatures of 25ºC – 30ºC on a fairly consistent basis for most of my life, for usually one week out the year.

Oh for those heady days of sunburn and reparations.

John the Econ
July 22, 2023 4:34 pm

China to Kerry and the others convinced that CO2 is a problem: Acquiesce to what we want, or the planet get it.

Then they laugh behind his back.

July 22, 2023 5:21 pm

Just another tripping point milestone-
G20 bloc fails to reach agreement on cutting fossil fuels (
Modi touts the politically correct modal tone in the video just to rub it in.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  observa
July 23, 2023 7:04 am

The wheels are starting to come off.

July 22, 2023 5:33 pm

Kerry is a disgrace to the US and the west in general. I don’t like him.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Bob
July 23, 2023 7:06 am

Kerry has no business being in a leadership position.

I don’t like him, either. I haven’t liked him since he lied before congress and called me and every other Vietnam service member a baby killer, among other things.

Kerry is the lowest of the low on the moral scale.

July 22, 2023 8:16 pm

They broke new ground? With an electric digger perhaps? 😉

July 22, 2023 11:58 pm

“But just talking is progress, he said.”
Spoken like a true dullard.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Shoki
July 23, 2023 7:09 am

Kerry had nothing else he could say.

I think the Republicans are currently trying to defund Kerry’s Climate Czar position. He has something like 45 people working under him as Climate Czar.

July 24, 2023 7:49 am

if only China would be a little more explicit, so idiot leftists could understand they are being played.

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