Lake Hyde Park in London, England, UK.

The Nanny State Strikes Again: 30C Heat Health Alert?

Once again, we find ourselves facing the alarming media rhetoric and an overly cautious government agency response that typically emerges at the first sign of weather that strays from the mild and mundane. This weekend’s forecast? A scorching 30C (or for our American friends, a balmy 86F). Cue the heat-health alert, with the UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) making it sound as though we are bracing for a Saharan onslaught, rather than a warm summer weekend.

A heat-health alert has been issued for parts of England as temperatures are predicted to hit 30C (86F) over the weekend.

The alert is in place from 09:00 BST on Friday 9 June to 09:00 on Monday 12 June in London, the Midlands, eastern and southern England.

People are being asked to check on vulnerable friends and family.

First, let’s put things in perspective. In many parts of the world, 30C is par for the course in summer, sometimes even considered a pleasantly warm day. This temperature is nothing unusual for countries like Spain, Italy, or Greece. Or even across the pond in the US, where states like Texas or Arizona regularly see summer highs soar well above 30C without a nationwide panic ensuing.

The UKHSA’s hysterical advice has triggered an amber alert, urging people to check on the vulnerable and adjust their daily routines. While it’s always important to look out for the elderly and those with health conditions, isn’t it just as crucial during the depths of winter or even on an average day? As responsible individuals, shouldn’t we be doing this anyway, without a governmental nudge?

Our media has become proficient at generating anxiety and alarm, latching onto the slightest deviation from the norm and amplifying it into a national crisis. The BBC article warns us of a weekend ‘hotter than Ibiza and Madrid’ as though this were a cataclysmic event, instead of simply a warm summer weekend that many people might actually enjoy.

BBC Weather’s meteorologist, Tomasz Schafernaker, fuels the hysteria by suggesting there might be an official heatwave. In reality, a heatwave is simply three consecutive days of temperatures above the official threshold. In other words, a summery weekend.

BBC Weather meteorologist Tomasz Schafernaker said some parts of the UK official heatwave threshold might be met in parts ofcentral and southern England this weekend.

What is lost in the hysteria is that sunlight and heat, in moderation, can be beneficial. Sunlight provides us with essential Vitamin D, and being outside in the warm weather can improve mood, promote physical activity, and enhance social interactions. Of course, precautions should be taken – stay hydrated, don’t overexert yourself in the midday sun, and use sunblock. But isn’t that just common sense?

And let’s not forget the not-so-subtle mention of the new colour-coded alert system, launched by the UKHSA and the Met Office. While it’s supposed to protect the most vulnerable, in execution, it’s more of a ‘Big Brother’ culture creeping into our daily lives, with the state constantly watching and warning us. If this system is activated every time temperatures peak a bit, its meaningfulness and effectiveness could quickly be undermined.

So, as the weekend approaches, let’s keep calm and carry on. Check on your neighbours, especially the elderly or infirm, drink plenty of water, and don’t forget your sun hat. Let’s not let a bit of warm weather – or alarmist media – disrupt our enjoyment of a beautiful summer weekend.

HT/John C

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Tom Halla
June 8, 2023 6:11 am

Reading The Daily Mirror from the UK, anything over 20C is a “heat wave”.
Being just northwest of Austin, Texas, that would lead me to conclude normal for the UK is “bloody cold”.

Reply to  Tom Halla
June 8, 2023 6:25 am

It isn’t just the Mirror

Reply to  Tom Halla
June 8, 2023 6:47 am

Your conclusion is correct.

A ‘heat wave’ in the UK (usually the SE of England) normally last’s for a week or so, might reach mid 30’s during that week. That’s it.

Meanwhile UK holidaymakers head to Spain in droves every summer to enjoy two weeks of 40ºC+ heat and Sangria.

John Hultquist
Reply to  HotScot
June 8, 2023 8:41 am

10ºC for the Sangria, please.

Reply to  HotScot
June 8, 2023 9:25 am

Looks like it will be cooler again by Sunday.

Reply to  HotScot
June 8, 2023 7:19 pm

“Being just northwest of Austin, Texas, that would lead me to conclude normal for the UK is “bloody cold”

Put up a welcome booth for United Kingdom citizens arriving at the airports.
Offer them:
1) iced longneck beer.
2) Chili using the recipe from the previous year’s best chili cookoff winner.
3) Shove them out the door into the Texas summer day.


Reply to  Tom Halla
June 8, 2023 8:27 am

Extended (10 day) for this part of central Texas is for 100 plus degree days most of next week. Seasonal for a change after a month of cool wet weather.

michael hart
Reply to  Tom Halla
June 8, 2023 12:38 pm

It’s almost perfect summer weather right now in the UK.
Developing warm sunny days. The greenery is going gangbusters. Cool nights that allow for real sleeping. The central heating was put on yesterday.

It’s terrible. We’re all gonna die.
But I wouldn’t mind dying in this weather.

old cocky
Reply to  michael hart
June 8, 2023 4:04 pm

and play at The Oval hasn’t been stopped due to rain.

I did notice both the Indians and Australians wearing sleeveless jumpers.

Mark Luhman
Reply to  Tom Halla
June 8, 2023 6:36 pm

For were I live that out normal January temperature an it is bloody cold. That is from someone who for the first 55 years of his live thought a temperature in January at 0 C was warm. My old blood has thinned out a lot.

Tombstone Gabby
Reply to  Tom Halla
June 8, 2023 7:18 pm

G’Day Tom,

“…Being just northwest of Austin, Texas…”

29 Palms, California. Averages 90 days per year with temperatures over 100°F.

(The ‘swamp cooler’ works like a charm.)

June 8, 2023 6:14 am

What a joke!

Reply to  ResourceGuy
June 8, 2023 7:32 am

I think one significant source of atmospheric warming has not been considered.

Surely, all of the Alarmists running around with their hair on fire has added some measurable warming since 1980!

Reply to  pillageidiot
June 8, 2023 9:51 am

I think you meant all the alarmists running around with their pants on fire

Reply to  Redge
June 8, 2023 12:15 pm

This is not an either/or situation. You are BOTH correct.

Richard Page
Reply to  ResourceGuy
June 8, 2023 7:41 am

The UKHSE has only been going since 2021 when they replaced Public Health England after the track and trace, and covid response cockups. A clearer case of trying to justify their own existence I have rarely seen.

June 8, 2023 6:15 am

Here in East Texas, 86°F is a very nice summer day.

Reply to  Shoki
June 8, 2023 12:36 pm

As in Las Vegas, Nevada, we don’t really start to think much of HOT until the temperatures get over 95f.

Personally, when I was in my early 30s and working outdoors in the sun, on a freshly paved asphalt road installing street lights and traffic signals, 105f was when I really began to feel the HEAT. Heck, I could not leave metal tools out without making sure I set them down in the shade. More than once I took tools I failed protect for direct sun and ran water from the ice water jug over the metal so I could use them.

Now, retired and spending much of my time at 8600 ft elevation where the temperatures are consistently 30+ f (17c) cooler than in Vegas, when I am in town, I notice the heat much more. BUT after a week or so, I start to get acclimated to SOME extent. 67 yo means more water, shorter times in direct sun, etc. Still able to get things done.

If 30c was any big deal, EVERYONE in Vegas would spend much of their time, 5 months year, time checking on everyone else. Even at 100f, 38c, Las Vegas would be in gridlock with all the checking on BS, for much of the summer.

Final side note, in my early 20s I worked in downtown Vega and walked to work every evening at 9;30 pm. This was in 1978. During the simmer I would OFTEN see over 100 f on the reader on top of the Mint hotel casino. BUT it was a dry heat, and not the least bit uncomfortable, even though I walked at a minimum 3.5 mph pace a mile and a half to work.

Mark Luhman
Reply to  Drake
June 8, 2023 6:40 pm

Phoenix metro are we have 160 days over a hundred, it only when it in the teens do I think it hot. Those temps in the teens tend to fry you eyeballs at first part of you outing.

Reply to  Drake
June 9, 2023 6:58 am

“During the simmer

I lived in SoCal, I can relate 🙂
(that’s one of the best typos ever)

many 100+ days was normal, it took 110+ to be a “heat wave” and we had plenty of those.

Mark Luhman
Reply to  Shoki
June 8, 2023 6:38 pm

Here in Arizona a 86F day is cold. Time to put on long pants.

June 8, 2023 6:20 am


I call that a “bit-warmer-than-room-temperature wave”.

Reply to  quelgeek
June 8, 2023 11:33 am

Here (Barcelona Catalunya) at the moment 26ºC inside the house. Nice. But you wonder how it can be warm in summer on the days with the most daylight hours and wind from the south. Very unusual.

June 8, 2023 6:25 am

The weather forecast maps have alarmingly red colouring- for 23C

Reply to  strativarius
June 8, 2023 6:48 am

All done deliberately to promote the idea that climate change is a threat.

Reply to  strativarius
June 8, 2023 3:47 pm

Yep indeed. Been done to death.

Peta of Newark
June 8, 2023 6:30 am

Where did the BBC dig up this hysterical nonsense from?

Wunderground say no such thing and are in broad agreement with the (oft hysterical) Met Office = being very calm and sober today. As seen attached

i.e. Met Office say temp peaking at 28°C in **London** on Saturday and their only warning is of a thunderstorm while Wunderground say same temp and a 2% (two per cent) chance of any rain.

Met Office Wkd London 10 & 11 June.PNG
Reply to  Peta of Newark
June 8, 2023 6:53 am

No doubt we’ll get a Scorchio temperature record set at some airport or other with dilapidated fighter jets* setting off for Ukraine.

*Australia is making around 40 F14 Tomcats available to the nice Mr. Zelensky. The alternative destination was the scrapheap as they were destined to be decommissioned.

real bob boder
Reply to  HotScot
June 8, 2023 7:48 am


Reply to  real bob boder
June 8, 2023 8:07 am

For their sake I hope it is F14’s as 18’s are gas hogs. Cycle times on carriers were shortened because 18’s couldn’t last a normal 1:45 hour cycle and have enough gas for a safety margin.

Richard Page
Reply to  mkelly
June 8, 2023 8:52 am

Doubtful it’s either really. The source of the article appears to be the head of an Australian company that’s training Ukraine hackers in anti-Russian cybersecurity and is not connected to the government. Kyiv has already stated that Australian fighter jets are not on the ‘list’ of things Zelensky wants from other countries, but would be interested if the offer was genuine.

Tom Halla
Reply to  mkelly
June 8, 2023 6:45 pm

As far as I know, Iran under the Shah was the only export customer for the F14.

Richard Page
Reply to  Tom Halla
June 9, 2023 3:53 am

Didn’t the USA nickname the Iranian F-14’s ‘Alley Cats’?

Reply to  real bob boder
June 8, 2023 8:43 am

Thank you.

May Contain Traces of Seafood
Reply to  HotScot
June 9, 2023 2:07 am

ITAR. Australia may (or may not) by providing them, but ITAR means the US is approving.

Reply to  Peta of Newark
June 8, 2023 7:34 am

Where did the BBC dig up this hysterical nonsense from?

As it states in the article, the warning was issued by a UK government body, the Health Security Agency (UKHSA), based on forecast information supplied by the met Office.

Richard Page
Reply to  TheFinalNail
June 8, 2023 9:54 am

And you think that’s perfectly reasonable do you? To issue a government health warning because temperatures might get up to mildly warm? I call it irresponsible and a complete waste of taxpayers money, frankly.

Reply to  Richard Page
June 8, 2023 2:51 pm

Rusty hasn’t moved to the Antarctic yet, despite knowing the climate there is more to its liking.

Perhaps it likes its tea and coffee tepid, too..

Reply to  TheFinalNail
June 8, 2023 3:13 pm

That’s a technically correct answer to the question. Why downvotes?

Richard Page
Reply to  KevinM
June 8, 2023 4:05 pm

He’s stating the blindingly obvious, parrot-fashion, rather than engaging with the topic; highly patronising and unpopular.

James Snook
June 8, 2023 6:36 am

“Hotter than Madrid”.
Of course. Madrid is forecast to be unseasonably cool and wet this weekend.

Reply to  James Snook
June 8, 2023 11:44 am

And Madrid is at a height of more than 600 meters above sea level under influence of a cold depression this weekend.

June 8, 2023 6:39 am

My BBC weather app is predicting a high of 27ºC on Saturday. Downhill from there.

Currently 19ºC with a chilling breeze in the South East.

This is simply more jobs for the boys in the MET Office.

Reply to  HotScot
June 8, 2023 2:55 pm


That’s what we have as a maximum forecast today down in NSW, Australia…

where it is WINTER.

old cocky
Reply to  bnice2000
June 8, 2023 4:11 pm

and a cold front has come through 🙁

Reply to  HotScot
June 8, 2023 3:18 pm

My BBC weather app
Catch-22 for BBC. Newsreaders must trust that people smart enough to write their app will also keep their secrets. Young talent would rather start its own business. As “an influencer”?

June 8, 2023 6:42 am

Gad. It looks like we should update the Bard’s Sonnet 18 from:

“Shall I compare thee to a summer’s day?
Thou art more lovely and more temperate.”


“Shall I compare thee to a summer’s day,
When all life teeters on the brink of doom?
And all God’s creatures cower
‘Neath a shroud of misery and gloom.”

Rich Davis
Reply to  tom_gelsthorpe
June 8, 2023 4:00 pm

Thou art thyself a Bard most skilfull goode Sir Thomas!

June 8, 2023 6:46 am

This type of warning will insure they will be ignored. Crying wolf when there is none doesn’t work long.

Reply to  OldRetiredGuy
June 8, 2023 3:20 pm

They’ve been crying about the same wolf for almost 50 years.

June 8, 2023 6:59 am

Thirty degrees Celsius (86 F) for most people is just a pleasant day at the beach.

Such temperatures are commonplace in summer in most of southern Europe, not only in Spain and Italy, but also in southern and central France. Every summer, Greece gets at least a week of temperatures above 40 C (104 F).

It seems like the British, in particular, are unusually afraid of warm weather. I remember taking some British friends to Noirmoutier Island along the west coast of France on a sunny, warm day (about 30 C maximum). While the French people were enjoying the sunshine and the beach, our British friends were huddled under their parasol for most of the afternoon, only moving to follow its shade. Whatever happened to “Fear no more the heat of the sun” (Shakespeare)?

Reply to  SteveZ56
June 8, 2023 7:38 am

Problem is, fewer than 5% of UK domestic houses have air conditioning.

real bob boder
Reply to  TheFinalNail
June 8, 2023 7:52 am

When I grew up in Philly we didn’t either and the July average is 89f and high humidity, by the way that’s the same average it was 50 years ago. It’s AC that makes everyone think the world is warming, the more you sit comfortable in AC the more you think the heat is a catastrophic.

Reply to  real bob boder
June 8, 2023 12:09 pm

Exactly !

Reply to  real bob boder
June 9, 2023 12:28 am

yep – some folks spend their entire day and part night in a false A/C “climate” – From home, to car, to office, to shops, to home. The only time the skin feels the weather conditions is walking from one conditioned space to another.

Richard Page
Reply to  TheFinalNail
June 8, 2023 8:56 am

That’s not a problem, in the UK’s climate, opening a couple of windows does a very good job.

Leo Smith
Reply to  Richard Page
June 8, 2023 11:09 am

Especially at night. Typically the night time temperatures will be well below 20°C

Leo Smith
Reply to  TheFinalNail
June 8, 2023 11:08 am

So what?

Human body grew up in Africa. It can take heat a lot easier than cold

Reply to  Leo Smith
June 8, 2023 12:47 pm

Come on Leo, these leftists that believe in evolution cant also understand that the human body can handle everything from the frozen arctic to the smoldering deserts of the world.

That would require them to suspend their religious beliefs that tell them the “Earth” is controlled by Humans, not the other way around.

Reply to  TheFinalNail
June 8, 2023 2:57 pm

And even fewer can afford the electricity, thanks to the anti-CO2 agenda that idiots like you espouse

Reply to  bnice2000
June 8, 2023 2:59 pm

Don’t bother with turning the air-con on in summer until it reaches 30C outside !

Rich Davis
Reply to  TheFinalNail
June 8, 2023 4:03 pm

How is that a Problem but requiring them to use a heat pump in winter is not?

real bob boder
Reply to  SteveZ56
June 8, 2023 7:49 am

Actually prefer it to be in 90’s f at the Jersey shore.

June 8, 2023 7:02 am

well here in the mid Atlantic (US) we have had atleast it seems to me a bit of a slightly chilly spring. And now we have some smoke to shield us from the intense rays of the sun too. Which really makes me think how “ natural” disasters are something that should be more on peoples radar.

Reply to  John Oliver
June 8, 2023 7:16 am

536 AD,, 1540,, 1783, 1816 and probably many others, Years with no summers

Reply to  John Oliver
June 8, 2023 7:24 am

1968 wasn’t up to much – not in the UK, anyway.

Reply to  atticman
June 8, 2023 7:57 am

Mean summer temperature in the UK in 1968 was about average for the 1960s (13.6C versus 13.5C for the decade – UKMO).

By contrast, mean summer temperatures in the UK over the past 10 years have averaged 15.0C, with 4 of the last 5 years exceeding that.

Reply to  TheFinalNail
June 8, 2023 9:01 am

I was thinking more of the cloudy days and the drizzly ones. There wasn’t much sunshine that year, as I remember it.

Reply to  TheFinalNail
June 8, 2023 12:51 pm

And those temperatures, where are they being recorded? In open rural fields, or in ever more dense asphalt covered towns?

How much heat island, how much the natural cyclic climate variation of the various ocean oscillations and solar activity?

Just asking, don’t expect an answer.

Tom Halla
Reply to  TheFinalNail
June 8, 2023 6:49 pm

Ah yes, back when “the next Ice Age is coming right soon now!” was current?

real bob boder
Reply to  John Oliver
June 8, 2023 7:52 am

John is dead on.

June 8, 2023 7:04 am

And to think, Australia, India, and parts of the Middle East were part of the British Commonwealth. How did they manage, and before modern conveniences like air conditioning??

Reply to  Right-Handed Shark
June 8, 2023 3:27 pm

PW’s are probably still price competitive. a.k.a. why buy the robot when human will do it for free?

old cocky
Reply to  johnesm
June 8, 2023 8:47 pm

And to think, Australia, India, and parts of the Middle East were part of the British Commonwealth. 

We still are.

June 8, 2023 7:04 am

HT for Charles: fires in Canada finds RCMPs rounding up eco-terror arsenal arsonists. SEE

Richard Page
Reply to  Orson
June 8, 2023 9:01 am

At least 17 so far I think, although the trials of arsonists arrested during last years arson season have confused the issue a bit.

Reply to  Richard Page
June 9, 2023 12:35 am

I blame co2 for the actions of arsonists. Its the carbon that makes them light fires. You see once we destroy all FF there will never be another “catastrophic” weather event anywhere on earth…

June 8, 2023 7:14 am

In other words – do what you have always done unless you have lost the “Spot The Brain Cell” game of life.

So Mr Shafenaker work this out – JPO.

June 8, 2023 7:21 am

The fact that there isn’t a huge uproar from the British public tells me that their population is a bunch of spineless sheeple.
Calling 30C a heat wave is extremely outrageous and the public should be ridiculing anyone who claims this is a heat wave.

Richard Page
Reply to  iflyjetzzz
June 8, 2023 7:46 am

We’re used to laughing at and then ignoring the Met Office and other NGO’s when they make fatuous and self-important pronouncements from on high. Perhaps that’s why the scam artists have such a foothold – no-one takes them seriously.

Reply to  iflyjetzzz
June 8, 2023 3:32 pm

… huge uproar … spineless …
Its not important enough for uproar. There’s always something to be upset about if you want to feel that way. Sounds exhausting.

June 8, 2023 7:22 am

86F? In the UK? Bring it on! And about time, too – I’d been wondering where “flaming June” had got to!

J Boles
June 8, 2023 7:24 am

They are going to crank the screws down, every year a bit more, on everything, food, water, housing, freedoms, fuel, until there is a big backlash – we need to drag them out in the streets and teach a lesson.

More Soylent Green!
June 8, 2023 7:36 am

O/T — With much of the eastern and central US being affected with smoke from the Canadian wildfires, will we see warning or cooling from the extra particulate matter, or no net difference?

Richard Page
Reply to  More Soylent Green!
June 8, 2023 9:04 am

My 2p worth is for a bit of cooling, although I doubt it’ll be too noticeable against the background noise.

real bob boder
June 8, 2023 7:47 am

In Philly the average for July is 89f with an average humidity of 58%. Didn’t cancel a single soccer match last year for our over 55 summer league and had several days 98f+.

Joseph Zorzin
June 8, 2023 7:48 am

The UK needs to “man up”- sheesh, you once were an empire upon which the sun never set- you resisted Hitler all alone- you had world class scientists and artists and Shakespear and now your nation fears a warm day.

I’m not anti feminist but me thinks the UK is becoming feminized. One definition of feminist just found in the net is “an advocate of women’s rights on the basis of the equality of the sexes; a person who supports feminism.”

Fine, equality is fine- if they do the same job, they should get paid the same. If a woman wants a very difficult job we once thought only men should do- fine, let’em have them including any and all jobs in the military. But I don’t want them dominating politics and culture.

Here in Woke-achusetts, we now have a lesbian govenor- and oh, everyone is so proud of that- well, did we really need to even know that she’s a lesbian? And, almost every agency head is now a woman- not just at the top but all the way down the hierarchy. I’ve also noticed that most newspapers and mazines now have female editors. And, I don’t watch much TV, but it seems the vast majority of news people and weather people and even sports people are now women.

Let’s get back to equality and I hope the UK will man up! I’ll probably get slammed for this commentary, but that’s OK, I’m proud to be a man and I can take it. 🙂

More Soylent Green!
June 8, 2023 7:49 am

STORY TIP — Socialist workers’ paradise Venezuela is an environmental disaster –

Students of climate change and environmental activism know one of the goals is to use real and imagined crises to enact Marxist global governance. Yet history shows socialist countries have the worst environmental records. Venezuela is but the latest example.

Reply to  More Soylent Green!
June 8, 2023 3:36 pm

Socialism doesn’t seem to work anywhere it’s been tried, but Venezuela has other problems too.

June 8, 2023 7:50 am

This is all so silly. Where I live 86 degrees F is a not-so-hot summer day. If you think it is hot, go inside and sit in the AC, or perhaps drink a cool glass of water.

There needs to be strong pushback against these charlatans; perhaps protests in support of weather being like weather has always been; sometimes hot, sometimes cold, etc.

And what is the problem with lack of air conditioning? Is this now a first world problem?

Richard Page
Reply to  morton
June 8, 2023 9:07 am

We don’t have much air conditioning in the UK, never really needed it. We tend to just open the windows.

Leo Smith
Reply to  Richard Page
June 8, 2023 11:12 am

We don’t have much air conditioning in the UK, never really needed it. We tend to just close the windows and the curtains.
And open them only at night when outside temp goes below interior

Richard Page
Reply to  Leo Smith
June 8, 2023 12:10 pm

Ok. I tend to open the windows then as the air temperatures, even at midday, rarely get that uncomfortable here in the UK.

Reply to  morton
June 8, 2023 3:38 pm

There needs to be strong pushback against these charlatans; perhaps protests in support of weather
I scheduled one but it rained. Maybe next week.

June 8, 2023 8:06 am

Just a passing thought. Has anyone considered that Bill Gates set all these fires to test his premise of loading up the atmosphere with fine particles to block the sun?

Reply to  Mason
June 8, 2023 3:41 pm

Impossible to know from where I’m sitting – there are better ways to test. B seems like the type of guy that would run an experiment he could control. Software guys I’ve known don’t love randomness.

June 8, 2023 8:19 am

Meanwhile, here in northeast PA, last night the temp was 37F . A little chilly for June, but no pundits commented.

Joao Martins
June 8, 2023 8:21 am

A heat-health alert has been issued for parts of England as temperatures are predicted to hit 30C (86F) over the weekend

Britons can of course come and spend their holydays in Portugal as usual: here they roast at a bit higher temperature…

Walter Sobchak
June 8, 2023 8:29 am

I gave the following advice to British Policymakers about warm weather a few days ago. I shall repeat it, in case they did not receive it.

England does need a plan to cope with warm sunny weather:

Clothing: Put away all of the woolens. You will need lots of mothballs to store them over the summer. Start manufacturing and distributing cedar chests. Lots of cotton shirts. T-shirts and polos. Lots of cotton shorts. Replace the wellies with sandals.

Sunscreen. make sure it widely available. And applied frequently and generously.

Ice, and lots of it. Mandate that restaurants serve ice water, iced sodas.

Tonic water with gin, served over ice. Lots of Ice. 3 shots of gin. 1 tsp triple sec, 10 oz. bottle of tonic water. Two tumblers filled with ice. Mix the booze and soda in a pitcher and pour into the tumblers. Prevents malaria.

Cold beer. Covert breweries to making lager. Until that is done, import pilsners and lagers from the continent. Jail barkeeps who serve warm beer.

And for God’s sake. Stay out of the noonday sun:

Once you get the hang of it you will discover that warm sunny days are as much better than cold rainy ones as ice cream is than hay. Speaking of ice cream. …

Reply to  Walter Sobchak
June 8, 2023 9:10 am

Are you familiar with this song, Walter?

Reply to  atticman
June 8, 2023 9:18 am

Oops! Cancel last post…

Richard Page
Reply to  Walter Sobchak
June 8, 2023 10:02 am

Lager? Dear god that stuff is horrible – tastes disgusting and is fizzy for heaven’s sake – frankly if you’re used to fizzy pop then I could understand why you’d drink it but I’d much rather have a refreshing glass of beer on a warm day.

Reply to  Walter Sobchak
June 8, 2023 3:06 pm

Careful! All sounds marvelously refreshing. But -You could be sued for causing someone to fall off the wagon. Or ruin a fat woke persons diet.

Reply to  Walter Sobchak
June 8, 2023 3:45 pm

I gave the following advice to British Policymakers
Did you write it in an open letter on someone else’s website?
Open letters to big organizations usually make them change their minds right away.

Ulric Lyons
June 8, 2023 8:50 am

The Met Office used to use the WMO heatwave definition until a couple of years ago, which was at least 5 consecutive days at 5°C or more above the average maximum temperatures for the time of year.

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Reply to  Ulric Lyons
June 8, 2023 3:46 pm

+1 for posting data! Yay good work thanks.

June 8, 2023 8:59 am

They are all going to melt into a pile of dead carbon. what ever can we do at 86 degrees, everything and anything we want, except ice skate on the river…

Richard Page
Reply to  davetherealist
June 8, 2023 4:10 pm

You can always ice skate on the river. Once. Doing it a second time is the trick.

June 8, 2023 9:57 am

I heard on Radio 4 a professor of something or other telling people to stay indoors, close the windows and close the curtains. All I could do was laugh.

(I listen to Radio 4 so you don’t have to)

Peta of Newark
June 8, 2023 10:13 am

Caption:Lake Hyde Park in London

Do you mean ‘The Serpentine‘ or possibly ‘Round Pond’

No matter – we are sooooo Doubly Doomed now

Doom #1
BBC Headline quote:”A weekend heat-health alert has been raised from yellow to a more severe amber warning in eastern and southern England, and the Midlands.
The amber alert – in place from 09:00 BST on Friday – indicates high temperatures could affect all ages and impact the health service.
The alert, issued by the UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA), continues until 09:00 BST on Monday.
Temperatures are forecast to hit 30C and some thunderstorms are expected.
(Their emphasis)

Doom #2 (This is bigger than ‘England’ = nearly on par with how big the BBC imagines itself to be. Phew – its fugging huuuuuugggge)

The Whole Planet is Doomed also – from today
As attached and here

Doncha just love the image they put with – these people really are insane

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Reply to  Peta of Newark
June 8, 2023 3:50 pm

the image they put with
I wonder whether they post the image then run over here to see if we mention it?

Chris Nisbet
June 8, 2023 10:39 am

1) Let’s see how well their predictions pan out. If they’re anything like what we get here in NZ there’s a good chance the predictions won’t eventuate.
2) “slightest deviation from the norm” – Is it really that abnormal to get temperatures in the late 20s in the south of England/London in June?
3) My memories of England from the early 90s are that it was often cold, overcast and drizzly. If ‘Climate Change!!” is going to turn England into a place where the weather is warm and sunny, that would be a good thing IMHO.

Reply to  Chris Nisbet
June 8, 2023 3:52 pm

Seems like lots of places would prefer warmer weather.

Leo Smith
June 8, 2023 11:06 am

35°C with 100% humidity aqnd 50°C with zero humidity are my cut off points.
Britain isn’t hot till at least 35°C. Round about 100°F IIRC.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Leo Smith
June 8, 2023 4:40 pm


It’s all about the humidity. If sweat is ineffective then it can be unpleasant at 30C. Yet 40C and desert dry is fine.

30C in New England is an unremarkable summer day. Common from June through September. The average high temperature for Hartford Connecticut in July is 84.9F/29.4C

June 8, 2023 11:19 am

Yesterday, the temperature on the sunny side of the house was 39C and 30C on the shady side, all in all, a pleasant afternoon. The local health authority went into panic mode and sent my wife, who receives home care support, a heat warning. All this at latitude 49.5N. Orbs, big brass ones.

Neil Lock
June 8, 2023 11:35 am

Today in Surrey, England, I enjoyed the most beautiful summer day I have experienced in my 70 years.

I hope tomorrow is even warmer.

Rod Evans
June 8, 2023 12:08 pm

It is worth noting the BBC weather expert Schafernaker who is a university trained meteorologist was so lacking in awareness of everyday normal worldly matters, during his appearance on ‘Would I lie to you’, he admitted he did not know a lamb was a baby sheep. Google it if you doubt me.
What he would know about heat waves is anybody’s guess?
Have had a lovely outdoor activity day today here in central UK, sunny and 21 deg. C. Hope it warms up a bit particularly at night.

Reply to  Rod Evans
June 8, 2023 3:55 pm

Google it if you doubt me.
Before the Internet I used to think the lyrics to my favorite songs were …

June 8, 2023 12:20 pm
June 8, 2023 1:35 pm

These guys are full of it. Sixty degrees Fahrenheit is cool even chilly with some wind. Seventy degrees Fahrenheit is comfortable even a little warm in the sun or cool with some shade or wind. Eighty degrees Fahrenheit is warm a little more than warm in the sun, nice in the shade and refreshing with a little wind. Ninety degrees Fahrenheit is very warm even hot in the sun but comfortable in the shade with a nice breeze. One hundred degrees is hot, very hot in the sun but bearable in the shade and almost nice in the shade with a nice breeze. One hundred and five, about as hot as it gets in my neck of the woods is very hot, miserable in the sun, very hot in the shade and a nice breeze is more than welcome. Anything above eighty you should look for shade and hope for a nice breeze, always have a nice cool drink of water handy and you’ll be fine. If your going to swim in the local rivers and lakes ninety is nice.

ethical voter
June 8, 2023 2:12 pm

The warmunist press are clearly idiots but what really p*sses me most is that they think everybody else are even bigger idiots. As for tax funded beuracrats ….. better not go there.

Edward Katz
June 8, 2023 2:19 pm

How many people have actually died from these recent heat waves, and how do they compare with the ones in North America during the 1930s? Better still, hasn’t study after study shown that far more people die of extreme cold than extreme heat? In addition, if the threat from heat is so great, why hasn’t there been a major population exodus from equatorial regions to places like Siberia, Manchuria, Scandinavia, Alaska, Labrador, and Antarctica? The whole heat wave business is a classic case of the media never resisting the opportunity to equate temporary warming periods with permanent global warming. Then the alarmists wonder why their predictions are guaranteed to be greeted with derision.

June 8, 2023 3:03 pm

A scorching 30C (or for our American friends, a balmy 86F).
Crap, I’d already Googled it.

And let’s not forget the … colour-coded alert system … effectiveness could quickly be undermined.
The post 9/11 USA terrorist danger indicator was always orange, so it disappeared from public notice in a few months. I expect that for legal liability reasons it could never say “safe, no danger” again without triggering an avalanche of lawsuits. Red? Why aren’t we scrambling jets? Public political warnings seem like a no win game after only 1 use.

June 8, 2023 3:07 pm

What is stopping you sceptics in the UK from countering blarney with measurements and presenting graphs like these to squelch thenonsense?
The link shows the hottest heatwave each year of duration 1, 3, 5,and 10 days in 8 of Australia’s biggest cities, covering around 80% of our population.
There is a graph for raw data, some going back to the 1860s, plus a graph for the BOM adjusted data. With a bit if sly fun, you can choose a graph to suit your point.
(I turn 82 next Friday, so if I can do it, it should be a breeze for a youngster wanting that 15 minutes of fame. Or just the truth.) Geoff S

June 8, 2023 3:41 pm

I was curious about this heat wave, having heard that the east of the country is rather cooler than usual, and checked Norwich, Lincoln, Cambridge. Take a look for yourselves at the forecasts over the coming week or ten days. Why anyone would think these forecast temperatures merit a heat warning?

Pure hysteria.

Here is Norwich, as a for instance, but check the others too, very similar.

old cocky
June 8, 2023 3:58 pm

In many parts of the world, 30C is par for the course in summer, sometimes even considered a pleasantly warm day. 

It’s alright for an overnight low.

Kit P
June 8, 2023 5:28 pm

I am going for a personal record for negative comments. I am right and everybody who post here is wrong.

Of course it the business of the nanny state to protect people from weather extremes. Of course it is the business of the media to report on weather extremes.

So when local goverment fails people die. When it is hot in Duluth Minnesota and the government is not prepared people die. So what if that is a cool day in Las Vegas?

I travel in a motor home and also sail. I check for weather advisories where I am at, going, and places in between.

One place, there are no heat advisories until it is above 110 degrees F. Where I am going, there is a heat advisory for it getting to 78. Between, the snow level is at 5000 feet and some fog.

I can leave because there is a wind advisory. Can not go sailing for the same reason. After getting a late start, I pass a favorite camps site by a mountain stream. Maybe not a good place to get out of if it snows so I got to the other side of the pass before stopping


old cocky
Reply to  Kit P
June 8, 2023 5:59 pm

Is a maximum of 30 extreme for the location and time of year?

The average maximum for London in June is 21, and for July 24.
Maidstone is the same, Canterbury and Oxford are a couple of degrees cooler.

It very much depends on what you’re acclimatised to. Those are pleasant winter’s days here near Sydney, NSW.

Reply to  old cocky
June 9, 2023 1:38 am

“Is a maximum of 30 extreme for the location and time of year?”

No. Highs for June:

June 2019 34C
June 2020 32C
June 2021 28C
June 2022 31C

Climate hysteria.

Reply to  Kit P
June 9, 2023 1:17 am

You are missing the point. These are not weather warnings, though they are couched in those terms.

There is no need to issue health warnings about the annual arrival of the UK summer and the warm summer days it brings. There is nothing remarkable or threatening about this weather. There is no need for anyone to change their behavior.

What the Met Office is doing then? Its promoting climate hysteria through the medium of issuing supposed fake warnings. This is a common thing these days in the UK, and happens in other fields.

Consider as another example the recent decision by British Cycling to restrict women’s races to biological women. This prompted an outburst from Emily Bridges, a trans woman and former male competetive cyclist, as reported in the Telegraph:

“Emily Bridges, a transgender cyclist, accused British Cycling of “genocide” in an astonishing attack after riders born male were banned from racing against women in British competitive events….

“…In a 651-word statement on her Instagram page, Bridges said British Cycling was guilty of a “violent act” and said it was a “failed organisation”…”

You notice the same basic approach: its perfectly reasonable to restrict women’s sporting events to women. Or to think trans women are not women, but altered men. But it gets redefined as genocide, trans phobia, violence. There are lots of other instances about sex and gender issues – the accusations against Kathleen Stock, for instance. In general, to hold that current medical science cannot change someone’s sex or that biological sex is real will result in accusations of the sort Bridges makes.

Despite its being a legally protected belief in the UK, that is, one cannot be discriminated against for holding it.

Similar things happen with issues around race.

So no, the Met Office should not be behaving in this way. They should get back to forecasting the weather, and stop using doing what sounds superficially like that as a way of promoting their own particular flavor of climate hysteria.

Dave Andrews
Reply to  michel
June 9, 2023 6:18 am

Interesting thing is though the BBC oft refers to Met Office warnings its forecasts are supplied by Meteo Group. Is it Meteo Group or even the BBC themselves that adds the lurid colouring?

Kit P
Reply to  Dave Andrews
June 9, 2023 10:16 am

How old are you? Could be that you are missing an important point?

I few years before retiring I stopped cycling because I would get dizzy when exercising. I would stay off ladders too when it was warmer.

About the same time, we were on vacation and camping when the weather permitted. There was heat advisory and decided we would stay in a hotel. We passed an ER and took my wife in over her objections. By the time, I parked the car they were prepping her for surgery.

Just because you get hysterical over other getting hysterical does not mean others are applying a systematic approach to safety.

Bach home we got a call from a neighbor late at night. Would we come stay with his elderly mother? Turns out he was only having symptoms of a heart attack.

You do not know what you do not know.

Mark Luhman
June 8, 2023 6:31 pm

I live in the Phoenix metro area today the temperature is 33 C (92 F) it well below the normal 37 C (100 F) by the end of the month of June and all the way through July and August the average will be 41 C (107.44 F,) For me to consider is a be heat wave we will need to be above 45 C (113 F.) Yet this month the national weather service put out a high heat warning when we hit 37 C(100 F) the normal temperature for the day. The idiocy is not just in England. People work out in the summer heat each and every day and they don’t die.

Loren Wilson
June 8, 2023 6:38 pm

High today was 32°C, unlikely to get below 30°C as the high for three or four months. We won’t mention the humidity. This is pretty normal for Houston.

June 9, 2023 12:38 am

Heat Health Alert – What is the normal operating temperature of the human body?

Northern Bear
June 9, 2023 1:42 am

The med is slightly cool at moment and I’m currently in Gran Canaria which is slightly cool today at 24C . 30c in June in the UK less common but not that unusual

Northern Bear
June 9, 2023 1:50 am

TORRO website which shows UK records shows plenty of events of 30C in June going back to the early 1900s . June record appears to be 35c in Mayflower Park Southampton in1976

Reply to  Northern Bear
June 9, 2023 5:58 am

Ah, ’76, I remember it well…

Alan M
June 9, 2023 8:27 am

Isn’t there an old joke that a British summer is 3 days of sun followed by a thunderstorm?Sounds exactly like that to me.

June 11, 2023 5:30 am

No nanny state concerns about the the cold in winter when people really do have problems and suffer, many even freeze to death …

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