Climate Activist Scientists Get all Verklempt Their Echo Chamber No Longer Exists on Twitter, Throw Tantrums and Leave

From France 24

Everything is hate and bots with these weak kneed crybullies.

Researchers have documented an explosion of hate and misinformation on Twitter since the Tesla billionaire took over in October 2022 — and now experts say communicating about climate science on the social network on which many of them rely is getting harder.

Policies aimed at curbing the deadly effects of climate change are accelerating, prompting a rise in what experts identify as organised resistance by opponents of climate reform.

Peter Gleick, a climate and water specialist with nearly 99,000 followers, announced on May 21 he would no longer post on the platform because it was amplifying racism and sexism.
For Background on Peter Gleick see these posts

These comments in reaction to Gleick’s dramatic, pearl-clutching, announcement of his departure sums up reality rather well.

Now that Twitter content moderators and healthy conversation enforcers are not amplifying climate activists nor suppressing dissenting voices it’s disheartening for those that believed everyone agrees with them.

Robert Rohde, a physicist and lead scientist at the non-profit environmental data analysis group Berkeley Earth, analysed activity on hundreds of accounts of widely followed specialists posting about climate science before and after the takeover.

He found climate scientists’ tweets were losing impact. The average number of likes they received was down 38 percent and average retweets fell 40 percent.
Deer in the headlights – Dessler is taking his ball and going home.

Andrew Dessler, professor of atmospheric sciences at Texas A&M University, said he was moving most of his climate communication to Substack, a newsletter platform.

“Climate communications on Twitter are less useful (now) given that I can see that my tweets are getting less engagement,” he said.

“In response to almost any tweet concerning climate change, I find my notifications inundated with replies from verified accounts making misleading or misguided claims.”

The time record holder for cry-bullying, Katherine Hayhoe, is discussed in the article as well. Last time we interacted she called me a white supremacist or something.

Climate scientist Katharine Hayhoe said replies from apparent trolls or bots had shot up 

And of course Mann’s always complaining about organized conspiracies.

Michael Mann, a prominent climate scientist at the University of Pennsylvania and a regular target for abuse by deniers of climate change, said he believed the rise in misinformation was “organised and orchestrated” by opponents of climate reforms.
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May 24, 2023 10:26 pm

Awareness of the climate con grows thanks to Elon Musk. A more noble cause than building high speed golf buggies.

Meanwhile the western Pacific north of PNG has hit more than 30C and convection is getting into overdrive as it always has done and will continue to do while there is an atmosphere on Earth and enough sunlight to get the water temperature above 15C:,10.31,365/loc=134.777,15.019

Tom Abbott
Reply to  RickWill
May 25, 2023 4:40 am

I do love Nullschool.

It looks like there is a typhoon nearby. Is there a relationship?

Walter Sobchak
Reply to  Tom Abbott
May 25, 2023 8:06 am

Try all the same info as nullschool plus a lot more.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Walter Sobchak
May 25, 2023 11:42 am


Reply to  Tom Abbott
May 25, 2023 3:31 pm

 Is there a relationship?

Of course. Cyclones are convection in overdrive.

Nullschool determines a value for CAPE (Convective Available Potential Energy). This is the energy that drives convection. The region of the cyclone has developed widespread convective potential:,10.31,365/loc=134.777,15.019

Any surface above 15C can develop convective potential. Above 22C, rain is usually associated with the convective instability. And storm intensity increases as the surface temperature increases.

The ocean surface temperature can overshoot 30C but that is the sustainable limit because the Level of Free Convection approaches the altitude of freezing at that surface temperature. That means any water vapour ejected above the LFC during instability will cool to ice forming cloud. The cloud restricts surface sunlight and there is only a short period of clear sky before the next cloudburst because of the close proximity of the LFC to the level of freezing.

If there is widespread CAPE then the initial updraft following instability can spin up a cyclone that becomes a self-sustaining convective storm providing the surface temperature remains high enough to supply the latent heat to keep feeding water vapour into the atmosphere.

Nullschool does not have sufficient vertical resolution of moisture to determine if an LFC has formed. The high CAPE being reported along the northern coast of the Arabian Sea is unlikely to be convective potential because I doubt there is an LFC.,17.05,373/loc=62.211,24.033

This is where mid level dry air is being drawn form the land disrupting the formation of an LFC:,17.05,373/loc=62.211,24.033

May 24, 2023 10:54 pm

Darn.. I will need to buy a new box of tissues ;-(

The loss of Gleick, Mann, Dessler, Ho-hum… etc… will help bring ethical, sane discussion back to Twitter, and remove a LOT of misinformation about climate.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  bnice2000
May 25, 2023 4:43 am

If these Climate Alarmists could prove their CO2 claims, they wouldn’t have to run from anyone.

What they don’t like hearing is skeptics saying they don’t have any evidence, and the Climate Alarmists have no comeback because they *don’t* have any evidence. So they run away and hide and whine like little babies.

Gary Pearse
Reply to  Tom Abbott
May 25, 2023 5:37 pm

Tom, recall what Steve McIntyre had to say about the mediocrity of “The Team” climate scientists after easily
trashing their published works for over a decade (some were even retracted and Steve was not a favored son of the climateering industry and its editors). Amongst other things, he said they would have been lucky to be highschool science teachers in earlier generations.

Dr Phil Jones of U of East Anglia admitted that he never learned how to use Excel and he was busy statisticalizing the Medieval Warm Period and the LIA out of existence or some such.

Reply to  Gary Pearse
May 26, 2023 12:50 am

Mann found he would be an average student at PhD level when doing his research in Solid State Physics, changed to dendrochronology and shot to the very top level
Phil Jones was an engineering hydrologist but became a full professor and head of research unit when he switched to temperature records

Pat Frank
Reply to  Duker
May 26, 2023 8:48 am

Stories reminiscent of men transitioning into women’s sports.

May 24, 2023 11:12 pm

Lots of beliefs and anecdotes

Why can’t they deal with facts – like everybody else does

Richard Page
Reply to  strativarius
May 24, 2023 11:41 pm

Because facts are not the friends of the committed climate activist!

Peta of Newark
May 24, 2023 11:21 pm

Curious, what was *really* going on with these ‘technical glitches’

Headline:Ron DeSantis Elon Musk interview: Campaign launch hits technical issues

Gotta love the projection the BBC apply in another article covering the story
Headline 2: The campaign launch Ron DeSantis will want to forget

Would that have happened to a Democrat….and would the BBC have been so obsessed = putting up so many front-page articles about it

Reply to  Peta of Newark
May 24, 2023 11:44 pm

There’s an interview with Elon Musk the BBC would like to forget…

Reply to  strativarius
May 25, 2023 2:07 am

I should have posted it. But…. it’s getting hard to find

Gary Pearse
Reply to  strativarius
May 25, 2023 7:04 pm

Strativatius: Jordan Peterson uses the same method to handle woke iinterviewers. Woke newsies has the way forward paved by the neo-left social constructs. They say nonsensical and stuff and lies with the associated buzz words and the interviewee is expected to respond in a form-fitted agreeable way.

For the interviewer to not even have considered he could be disagreed with and be asked for examples is hugely telling. He was rendered speechless outside of his woke-spun cocoon. It is clear reality is a frightening nightmare for the likes of such folk. I thought the neo-left were dishonest, self-serving charlatans, but that’s not the case. These folk have some deeply planted dissociative disorder, maybe even locked in their DNA.

I get this also from the recoiling of Gleick, Hayhoe, Dessler and likely hundreds more of this sect-like group who can’t face disagreement, criticism, other points of view. I now really believe their world is peopled with a fantasia of countless genders, hateful hobgoblins, fear of trigger words, victimhood… maybe Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter weren’t
entertainment to them.

Reply to  Peta of Newark
May 25, 2023 3:55 am

Well, the leftwingnut media chortled with delight at the “glitches” in the Twitter announcement, but they always fail to report factually that the reason Twitter glitched was because its massive servers completely overloaded with attempts to click in. Because to admit that would be to admit that Joe Biden, and any and all other politicians, do not generate the level of interest in Ron Desantis’s campaign.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Duane
May 25, 2023 4:54 am

Yes, it sounds like Twitter’s servers were overloaded with people trying to connect.

Rule of Thumb: Consider everything said by the Leftwing Media to be a lie/distortion until proven otherwise. This will serve you well when searching for the truth.

The Leftwing Media is totally political all the time, so everything they say has a political bias, and in the case of leftwing bias, it is made up mostly of lies and distortions of reality. So beware. The truth is not in the Leftwing Media.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
May 25, 2023 9:52 am

IMO It was almost certainly an overload of the servers.

I used to specialize in scale issues like that. Twitter was never actually very good at scale just for 140-character tweets (I built a system that handled twitter’s current load level back when the “fail whale” was common) – so it wouldn’t surprise me that even in its current state it couldn’t handle that big of a live stream.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Tony_G
May 25, 2023 11:47 am

Musk said earlier today that he thinks the problem had to do with connecting his personal Twitter account to the conversation, which he claims causes computer problems. Apparently, this wasn’t the first time a glitch happend while Musk was using his corportate account on a call like this.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
May 25, 2023 11:54 am

connecting his personal Twitter account to the conversation

I can’t imagine how that could happen, but he’s closer to the source than I am so I’ll accept the possibility.

Reply to  Tony_G
May 26, 2023 12:55 am

How come Trump who had a far bigger Twitter following than De Santis wasnt such a problem.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
May 25, 2023 11:41 am

“Leftwing Media” is redundant, there is no right wing corporate media.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Nansar07
May 25, 2023 11:44 am

There are some that are not leftwing.

Reply to  Nansar07
May 26, 2023 12:56 am

Fox News is , plus their print/online old media outlets

Reply to  Duker
May 27, 2023 6:04 pm

Fox News is WAS.There, fixed it for you.

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  Duane
May 25, 2023 5:10 am

The MSM always paints DeSantis as a right wing nut job- but, watch him in a discussion with libertarian John Stossel:

DeSantis seems very sane, very intelligent, with common sense approaches to problems. I’m very impressed with him- and I prefer to see a younger person in the White House than Trump or Biden. The fact that I’m also Italian American doesn’t make me prejudice in favor of him. Lying on that- ’cause I want to see big spagetti dinners on the White House lawn. 🙂

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
May 25, 2023 11:55 am

“The MSM always paints DeSantis as a right wing nut job”

That is the way the MSM treats every Republican that they feel is a threat to their socialism goals.

If anyone thinks getting Trump out of the picture is going to stop the drama from the leftwing Media, then they better think again. The principal business of the Leftwing Media is to make Republicans look like Adolf Hitler. If it’s not
Trump, it will be some other Republican. It’s standard operating procedure for the left.

The Drama, that so many people blame on Trump, will continue, because the real blame for the Drama lies with the Leftwing Media who mischaracterize everything Trump and other Republicans say, to make them look as bad a possible.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
May 26, 2023 12:58 am

Hardly . if anything they give far too much time to Trumps every utterance which doesnt align with their target audience
It gets audience engagement , good or bad, which is why they are in the business of selling space in front of readers/viewers eyeballs

Reply to  Duker
May 27, 2023 6:09 pm

Hardly . if anything they give far too much time to misrepresenting Trumps every utterance which doesnt aligns perfectly with their target audience

There, fixed it for you, again.

Ben Vorlich
Reply to  Peta of Newark
May 25, 2023 6:06 am

That’s one launch people will remember,

May 25, 2023 12:40 am

as hostile climate change denialism truth surges on the platform following Elon Musk’s takeover

Fixed it.

It should be noted that anyone who challenges a leftist, no matter how politely, is “hostile” or a racist, bigot, homophobe, transphobe, white supremacist, far right, denier, or anti-science. Name-calling is a common reaction for leftists when their orthodoxy is questioned or refuted.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  stinkerp
May 25, 2023 5:00 am

“Name-calling is a common reaction for leftists when their orthodoxy is questioned or refuted.”

That’s always the fall-back position for leftists. Character assassination is the name of the game for them.

That’s why they say skeptics are paid by the oil companies, to make it appear that skeptics are not sincere in their beliefs but are doing it for the money. Character assassination.

The Climate Alarmists can’t argue the science, so they assassinate the character of the skeptic as a substitute.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
May 26, 2023 1:05 am

Ever seen Trumps name calling, hes the master at the whiny name calling .
Just lost a $5 mill court case because he couldnt shut up

Sloppy Steve Bannon’‘Little Adam Schiff’‘Cheatin’ Obama’‘Crazy Maxine Waters’Wacky Omarosa’‘Pocahontas’‘SleepyCreepy Joe’
Loved how he name called Hil Clinton Lock Her up over misusing a private server for emails. hes facing far more serious over his security lapses , mostly intentional and deliberate

Reply to  Duker
May 27, 2023 6:37 pm

Your examples are just TRUMP! calling a spade a spade.

Link added, because, you know, and I know, that you being a liberal and not knowing anything that predates your birth, that you will envision this phrase as racist.

To wit, according to LIBERALS, it is, but IT IS NOT.

So time for the “Sticks and Stones Act” Where the federal government DEFENDS everyone’s right NOT have their language usage be declared OFFENSIVE by some liberal.

Which ends with:

“When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’

’The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things.’

Answer, liberals have been allowed to make words spoken by decent people, i.e. conservatives to mean something completely different then what the words actually meant.

As a final example, “homeless” is now what “vagrant” was 60 years ago. In both cases, no visible means of support, no place of residence, etc. meaning the person must beg, “borrow” or steal to survive. Liberals have made “the homeless” into a protected “class”, to be honored and praised while trashing the neighborhoods they inhabit and “helping” “the homeless” with federal and local funds have created hundreds of thousands of jobs for equally useless liberals who would otherwise not be employed.

Notice the definition of “homeless” does not include ANYTHING about having, or not having, some source if legal income. i.e. visible means of support.

Bob Johnston
Reply to  stinkerp
May 25, 2023 7:45 am

Common reaction? It’s the only reaction.

Reply to  stinkerp
May 25, 2023 9:02 am

There used to be rational leftists, who could actually attempt to defend their beliefs with facts and logic.

Unfortunately after 50 years of repeatedly being beaten when trying to use logic, the left has decided that emotion and anger are the only weapons they need.
Of course they will also tell you how they are so, so compassionate, and it is everyone else who is driven by hatred

Reply to  MarkW
May 25, 2023 10:03 am

I think there may still be some of those rational leftists, Mark – they’ve just been intimidated into silence by the radicals.

Smart Rock
Reply to  MarkW
May 25, 2023 11:08 am

The “rational leftists” that you are nostalgic about were concerned with things like the material well being of the poor, the marginalized and the working class. Concerns that hardly changed at all in 200 years since the French Revolution. That is now history.

The modern left is espousing ideas that will actively erode the material well being of everyone, especially the poor, the marginalized and the working class (but not, of course, those who go to Davos). They have in fact moved off what used to be the left-right spectrum, in an entirely new direction, presumably because the capitalist system they despised was doing a pretty good job of improving the material well being of the poor, the marginalized and the working class.

Leaving soft lefties like yours truly in what they dismiss as the “far right” camp, along with conservatives, traditionalists and rational thinkers. Where I’m not at all uncomfortable.

The modern left is essentially following the strategy laid out by Antonio Gramsci in the 1930s, i.e. taking control of society from within. Gramsci evolved his ideas while he was in prison in Mussolini’s Italy, but they only started to be applied in practice in the 1960s

The paradox that the modern left faces is that — now that they are well on the way to taking control of society from within — they are driving western societies into something that has a lot in common with Mussolini’s fascism (before he got aligned with the German fellow) in suppressing dissident thoughts and controlling public discourse. Where ordinary folk can carry on their lives as long as they keep their heads down and don’t express forbidden thoughts (like the desire to vote). Where big corporations and authoritarian governments work hand in hand to control how society operates. Where propaganda takes the place of news and indoctrination takes the place of education. Where nations engage in pointless foreign wars.

What unites the old left and the modern left is the one thing that is the core of their belief system – that “they” know what’s good for “us”, and if we don’t like it, they are going to impose it on us. Everything else is just strategy and tactics to achieve that end.

The perpetual shortage of food and consumer goods that was a big feature of the world of 1984 isn’t very apparent yet. It’s being replaced — for now — with a shortage of things to believe in, like our history (nothing but shameful oppression), and our sexuality (think your daughter is a girl and your son is a boy? Think again, you Neanderthaler!). But don’t worry, poverty and hunger are coming, and will dominate your life once we move towards net zero.

See that, MarkW? You provoked me into a rant.

Reply to  Smart Rock
May 27, 2023 6:40 pm

Fine job for a Rock, you must be Smart!

I'm not a robot
Reply to  stinkerp
May 25, 2023 9:09 am

Or the mother of all dismissals, “extremist”.

May 25, 2023 1:00 am

I’ve had it with Twitter!

Coeur de Lion
May 25, 2023 1:00 am

Don’t forget the gate-keeping, intimidation, suppression and wiping of FOI requests data , persecution of editors, ad hominem attacks, sneers and schoolboyish behavior by powerful scientists in charge of world opinion – as revealed by Climategate. But one can understand their panic – a lifetime supporting a fraud

Reply to  Coeur de Lion
May 25, 2023 2:49 am

And we still have to see them publicly admitting that they were wrong. When that happens, it may be accomplished with a huge rush, as each tries to be concealed in the sheer weight-of-numbers. Or am I being too optimistic?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  mikelowe2013
May 25, 2023 5:04 am

I can’t see any of the major Climate Alarmist scoundrels admitting they were wrong.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
May 25, 2023 6:33 am

I dunno – just keep turning the wheel on the rack….

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  Coeur de Lion
May 25, 2023 5:14 am

Mann should have his doctorate degree retracted for that fraud.

Bob Johnston
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
May 25, 2023 7:47 am

Mann’s doctorate actually should be for fraud.

Hoyt Clagwell
Reply to  Bob Johnston
May 25, 2023 8:26 am

“Michael Mann F.D.”
I love that!

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  Bob Johnston
May 25, 2023 9:06 am

Turns out he’s a native of Amherst, MA. I keep pointing out just how alarmist is this state. The state sued the EPA in the Supreme Court over the endangerment finding- many of the most infamous alarmists are from here, such as John Kerry, and I believe Mann’s paper that first talked about the hockey stick was co-authored by another guy from U. Mass. I feel I live in the belly of the beast- it ain’t just CA, NY and Germany. This state, mostly due to the immense influence of Hah-vid, has exported a certain attitude to the world- an attitude of extreme self righteousness and arrogance.

And, of course, MA is a net zero state! And, now a new movement that started here- is called PROFORESTATION, started by Bill Moomaw, who was once an IPCC author. He’s a physical chemist and was a prof at Tuffs. He thinks he understands forests. The goal of this movement is to end all forestry- they don’t say it that way but that’s clearly the goal- to save the planet of course. After all, he has a 4,000+ sq. ft. wood home in elite Williamstown (where Williams College is located). A few of us forestry guys have been arguing with him and his cronies for years over this topic.

Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
May 27, 2023 6:44 pm

So call Texas and have them send a busload directly to his house.

At 100 square foot per person, he must be easily able to house 40 illegals. I mean he doesn’t want them living in the woods destroying the forest does he?

Ed Zuiderwijk
May 25, 2023 1:07 am

‘Organised and orchestrated by opponents’.

now there’s a bit of projection for you.

Rod Evans
May 25, 2023 1:29 am

Welcome to the real world, Alarmists. Your safe spaces guarded so vigorously by the ‘long marchers’ has come to an end. Once exposed to the public oxygen of scrutiny those presenting previously unchallenged falsehoods, quickly retreat back into their dark holes of noxious thought. The weight of scientific truth will see them buried hopefully for a long time, sadly there will be another faux crisis invented to take over from these climate alarmist.
Eco alarmists determined to destroy farming and modern agricultural successes are on the rise. See Sri Lanka and the Netherlands as most recent examples of state scale and state enforced eco lunacy.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Rod Evans
May 25, 2023 5:08 am

Now the Climate Czar, John Kerry is trying to demonize agriculture, saying agriculture is responsible for 30 percent of emissions, and we can’t get to Net Zero without doing “something” about it.

I guess Kerry wants us all to eat less.

I think Kerry and the Biden administration are going to have a tough time trying to hobble American farmers over climate change.

ethical voter
Reply to  Tom Abbott
May 25, 2023 4:14 pm

Grass needs to be decarbed before eating. Oh dear, more C02 released.

Gary Pearse
Reply to  Tom Abbott
May 25, 2023 7:36 pm

Kerry will have to make a concession for tomato farmers.

Reply to  Rod Evans
May 25, 2023 9:12 am

This morning I was reading another article about someone declaring that we will need an international agency in order to regulate AI. I can’t find that story now.

May 25, 2023 1:39 am

Story Tip:

“The EU is creating and financing its own advocacy and activist groups so they can artificially weigh in on EU decision-making”.
In a statement on the matter published on Tuesday, Commissioner Hahn admitted that the EU hands millions in funding to a wide variety of left-wing groups, with the bloc giving over €4.5 million to ‘No Peace without Justice’ — a group originating from the so-called ‘Transnational Radical Party’ — and over half-a-million to “Droit au Droit”, who profess to campaign for “marginalised groups”.

The Commission claims to have had no meetings with ‘No Peace Without Justice ‘, despite the multi-million payout.

Hahn failed to reveal how much the EU hands to the likes of Amnesty International and George Soros-Linked Open Society Foundation”

European Commission Admits to Handing Millions in Tax Cash to ‘Far-Left’ NGOs

Can I have some of your money…?

Richard Page
Reply to  strativarius
May 25, 2023 2:45 am

I think you’d need to set yourself up as a left-wing (group) think tank in an EU country first. Create a few far left press releases, full of buzz-words and, preferably, nothing whatsoever of substance. Then get the cash rolling in by the bucket full.
P.S: I think I deserve a good cut of the proceeds for this plan of action!

Reply to  strativarius
May 25, 2023 6:37 am

They have been funding lobby groups for years. Not wanting to be seen coming up with some policy to make life worse for normal people, they use the excuse of being lobbied over the alleged problem to say that they must do something.

Reply to  gezza1298
May 25, 2023 9:17 am

The EPA has become expert at paying some lobbying group to sue them, deliberately losing the suit and then getting a judge to order them to do something that they couldn’t get congress to authorize.

Rich Davis
May 25, 2023 2:21 am

I detect a new buzzword coming into the hivemind: climate reform

…organised resistance by opponents of climate reform.

…he believed the rise in misinformation was “organised and orchestrated” by opponents of climate reforms.

Climate Reform
Immigration Reform
Healthcare Reform

Just swap out the letters “form” with “volution” to decode the actual meaning.

Richard Page
Reply to  Rich Davis
May 25, 2023 2:49 am

Just like with the ‘Energy transition’ they are hiding behind the terms. Replace the first word with ‘society’ and thus – societal reform, societal transition. This is social engineering writ large; a global scale, if you will.

May 25, 2023 4:18 am

Re: content moderators and what not
Musk was asked by Tucker Carlson how Twitter can operate with 80% less people than pre-Musk acquisition.
He said that it turns out you can operate Twitter with a lot less people if you aren’t focused on activism.

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  c1ue
May 25, 2023 5:18 am

is it really 80% less? of course it doesn’t have to make a profit

old cocky
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
May 25, 2023 5:06 pm

I think that’s 80% less staff rather than 80% less product to sell to advertisers.

John Oliver
May 25, 2023 5:37 am

The far left is wrong on just about everything. No wait everything. I often play“ devils advocate” in my inner monologue when analyzing issues, concepts etc; but so many of the policies advocated by leftist are just such none sense that I feel silly giving them any credence at all once I have built up a substantial knowledge base on the particular subject. There is something wrong with their brains.

Hoyt Clagwell
Reply to  John Oliver
May 25, 2023 8:32 am

Their emotions override their brains. It’s all about feelings. They spend decades trying to save the whales and wildlife and the forests, but when their pet alternative energy sources start destroying all of those things, they don’t care one tiny bit. They’re completely irrational.

Reply to  Hoyt Clagwell
May 25, 2023 9:22 am

It’s also about feeling good about themselves.
The actual thought and work that is needed to form a coherent solution that has a chance of actually solving the problem is too draining.
Much simpler to latch onto a simple solution and then spend all your emotional energy supporting that solution.
That way, every night when you go to bed, you can convince yourself that you are one of the good guys who is saving the world.

Of course, any evidence that you have been wasting your time threatens to harsh your mellow, so it most be fought with every fiber of your being.

Reply to  John Oliver
May 27, 2023 6:50 pm
May 25, 2023 5:40 am

Climate activism is taboo in most of the world. That it seems globally “popular” is an illusion created in western press. It is not covered in foreign domestic press. If academics are unable to understand this, their self-imposed island is isolation has caused them to lose perspective.

Reply to  JCM
May 25, 2023 9:25 am

Climate activists don’t hang out in places where there are people who disagree with them.
This causes them to actually start believing that everyone agrees with them.

I’m reminded of that lady from NYC who, after Nixon won is a 49 state landslide, declared
“I don’t know how he could have won. Nobody I know voted for him.”

Richard Page
Reply to  JCM
May 25, 2023 10:12 am

I noticed (with a fair bit of amusement) that Russia has effectively banned Greenpeace International for trying to ‘change power in the country’ after a series of propaganda campaigns against the regime. What on earth did they expect?

May 25, 2023 6:04 am

Mommy, Mommy! Make Bobby stop hitting me back!

May 25, 2023 6:21 am

Might the decline in likes and retweets have as much to do with Twitter’s crackdown on fake accounts. I suspect climate radicals were behind many of those.

Twitter deletes 1 million fake accounts every day, execs reveal | The Independent

Gunga Din
May 25, 2023 7:15 am

Researchers have documented an explosion of hate and misinformation on Twitter …”

“Hate and misinformation” are words so overused and abused they no longer mean anything when used by the Left.
“Phobia” and “racist” are a couple of others.

Reply to  Gunga Din
May 25, 2023 7:49 am

Did they just start looking at the Biden Twitter feed ?

Bob Johnston
Reply to  Gunga Din
May 25, 2023 7:50 am

If leftists aren’t calling you a racist or white nationalist then you’re doing something wrong.

Richard Page
Reply to  Bob Johnston
May 25, 2023 10:13 am

Or ‘right-wing extremist.’

Gunga Din
Reply to  Bob Johnston
May 25, 2023 6:25 pm

They use such terms to describe Clarence Thomas and Tim Scott!
(Probably Thomas Sowell also.)
So much much for judging a person on the quality of their character rather than the color of their skin!

Rich Davis
Reply to  Gunga Din
May 25, 2023 5:46 pm

I really hate that misinformation

Reply to  Gunga Din
May 26, 2023 10:35 am

Every couple of hours randomly browsing Twitter, I see conservatives being compared with n@zis, fascists, KKK…
And I am not using search on such loaded words. Just clicking on the first replies to a given tweet, etc.

May 25, 2023 7:24 am

He found climate scientists’ tweets were losing impact. The average number of likes they received was down 38 percent and average retweets fell 40 percent.

SOME climate scientists. The impact-losers had had the undisclosed veto squads actively suppressing anyone who disagreed with them. If they’d understood the wisdom of our Constitution-writers, they’d have vigorously engaged and publicly debated with those scientists who held other viewpoints. By the requirements of the scientific method, that’s how you play the game and come closest to truth. But no, their friends among the Feds and Universities had elbowed their way backstage at Twitter and loaded the dice to support the politically-favored, grant-enjoying ‘Earth is Burning!’ side, and ensured the shutting-up the critics of said losers.

William Howard
May 25, 2023 7:41 am

now if they would just stop breathing to save the planet we would all be much better off

May 25, 2023 7:42 am

“… what experts identify as organised resistance …”
This means three people who read the same posting somewhere on the internet.

May 25, 2023 8:45 am

experts identify as organised resistance by opponents of climate reform

We’re organized? Since when?

It doesnot add up
Reply to  MarkW
May 25, 2023 11:08 am

Self-organised. With emergent properties. Can lead to Chaos, and certainly Complexity.

Rich Davis
Reply to  It doesnot add up
May 25, 2023 5:51 pm

Have you forgotten your oath to Exxon Mobil?
À propos of that, has anyone gotten their check this month? They’re late. AGAIN!

old cocky
Reply to  It doesnot add up
May 25, 2023 9:14 pm

Can lead to Chaos

Missed it by that much. Shouldn’t it be spelled KAOS?

It doesnot add up
Reply to  old cocky
May 26, 2023 11:23 am

I had in mind that the eponymous James Gleick wrote Chaos, which introduced Chaos and Complexity Theory and the Butterfly Effect to the public. Of course, perhaps an antithesis to Peter Gleick, since it really undermines the basis for climate modelling.

old cocky
Reply to  It doesnot add up
May 26, 2023 3:26 pm

I couldn’t resist the temptation.

Sorry about that, Chief.

May 25, 2023 8:54 am

Last time we interacted she called me a white supremacist or something.

It has become impossible to merely “disagree” with anyone on the left.
All disagreement is because one is a racist, sexist, or simply a hater.
I’ve also noticed that very few people are racists anymore. It’s always “white supremacist” these days. Even blacks can be white supremacists when they disagree with white liberals.

May 25, 2023 8:56 am

He found climate scientists’ tweets were losing impact. The average number of likes they received was down 38 percent and average retweets fell 40 percent.

Of course he blames this on the fact that people who disagree with him are no longer being suppressed.
Isn’t it more likely that fewer and fewer people are buying the schist that he is selling?

It doesnot add up
Reply to  MarkW
May 25, 2023 11:09 am

It’s also likely that he is no longer being supported by a bot army.

May 25, 2023 10:16 am

I read the article carefully. No scientists were cited?

May 25, 2023 10:16 am

Still no word from climate activists about what is the perfect global average temperature.
Still no word from climate activists about the cost per degree of lowering it.
Still no word from climate activists about what poverty level is required to see a reduction of CO2 levels in the atmosphere.

Reply to  doonman
May 25, 2023 2:48 pm

Still no word from climate activists about what changes they are making in their personal lives to cut back their own CO2 emissions.

May 25, 2023 11:08 am

Self-cancellation… excellent!

Mumbles McGuirck
May 25, 2023 1:33 pm

There is always Truth Social.

May 25, 2023 1:39 pm

Climate scientist … said replies from apparent trolls or bots had shot up

The argument seems to be that advocacy is too difficult?

Mumbles McGuirck
May 25, 2023 1:39 pm

Peter Gleick, a climate and water specialist with nearly 99,000 followers, announced on May 21 he would no longer post on the platform because it was amplifying racism and sexism.

And as a black, female lesbian he has become a target.

Reply to  Mumbles McGuirck
May 27, 2023 5:09 am

Is he also a native something?

May 25, 2023 2:25 pm

And again the French international multi lingual TV state-owned pravda is pushing conspiracy ideation.

May 25, 2023 2:40 pm

These guys are cowards. Questioning their statements/beliefs is not mis information or false information.

Pat Frank
May 26, 2023 9:04 am

Since Musk took over Twitter, I’ve regained over 300 Tweeters about Propagation… The number had eroded away over three years, after an initial strong surge in 2019.

The Tweets have come back in amazing surges. First the Germans appeared — about 3 weeks ago 100 in one day. Then, just a few days ago, more than 100 Italian tweets appeared overnight.

I get the feeling that previous shadow-banning is being lifted regionally, as Musk’s new directives about free speech and open access spread through the company.

Gleick’s complaints, and Hayhoe’s and Dessler’s and Mann’s are the hand-wringing of the entitled who have suddenly had their privileges revoked.

Most likely their falling attention follows the removal of climate-approving bots. After all, all their prior admirers are still present. Were real people providing support, they’d rush to their hero’s defense. The present silence speaks volumes about the past noise.

So, I’m guessing that the angst among the alarmist coterie is their response to the realization that they’re not popular after all.

And having been entitled, the influx of the ordinary feels to them like abuse.

May 26, 2023 2:32 pm

Sunshine is tough on those that wish to live in the shadows.

Crispin in Val Quentin
May 27, 2023 12:07 pm

Twitter makes it very east to fact-check baseless claims. That is a problem for alarmists who depend on public ignorance for status.

In general the public seems to be better informed because at some point, everyone has noticed that the prophecies of doom have failed to materialize. Not only that, things are often going in the opposite direction.

When confronted by a solid rejection of some baseless claim or twisted fact, these “scientists” used to be able to throw their toys out of the cot and scream “deniers”. No longer. People can easily provide contradicting evidence that shows for the most part, gloom and doom is nothing more than computer modelling reported without the error bars. The more educated people are in general, the more they understand that a prediction of a 4 degree temperature rise in 80 years with 1% confidence is scientifically meaningless.

Also look for a switch from risk to relative risk. That is how Pfizer reported the efficacy of their now famous COVID shot. Relative Risk (RR) makes a comparison between two insignificant risks making the reduction look important. It is akin to claiming a % temperature change in Kelvins v.s. anomalies in F.

All students should be aware of these tricks by the time they get to Grade 10. Scientists whose trade is fear are discovering that even students are calling out their fanciful fantasies, their provocative prognostications, their WAGS. Shame….the demotion couldn’t be more deserved.

David Solan
May 28, 2023 1:52 am

Point of Order: “Verklempt” is an esoteric Yiddish term meaning a deep sense of
confusion, depression, and loss of self-control over a profoundly negative (or
sometimes positive!) turn of events. It is supposed to refer to the deepest values of
the human soul. To evoke such a term in describing the “loss” felt by spoiled,
name-calling brats facing, at last, criticism because they demand the rest of the
world stop in the face of their massively disassociated delusions, and who are more
than disposed to initiate force against all those who so criticize their alarmism, is
wildly inappropriate. They feel threatened, lonely, and vulnerable because they are
being refuted by opponents merely challenging their lies (for which challenges they
have no meaningful response)?  And they thus, instead, throw tantrums? That’s their
problem, not ours. On the contrary, to show them any official, widespread sympathy
should make any decent man feel verklempt at such a showing. Such a term much better
describes our loss than theirs.

David Solan

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