Essay by Eric Worrall
McKibben believes the reason the IPCC’s increasingly frantic climate warnings are being ignored is people don’t believe they can make a difference.
Climate change is the legacy of people over the age of 60. That’s why we must protest
Bill McKibben
Tue 28 Mar 2023 00.38 AEDTI’m proud to be part of Third Act, a climate activist organization for people over the age of 60
The brutal truth is that last week’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report didn’t have the effect it should have had, or that its authors clearly intended. Produced by thousands of scientists who synthesized the work of tens of thousands of their peers over the last decade, and meticulously drafted by teams of careful communicators, it landed in the world with a gentle plop, not the resounding thud that’s required.
In China, the world’s biggest emitter, official attention was focused instead on Moscow, where Xi Jinping was off to do a little male bonding with fellow autocrat Vladimir Putin, incidentally the world’s second largest producer of hydrocarbons. In America, the historical emissions champ, we were riveted by the possibility that would-be autocrat Donald Trump might be indicted. In the New York Times, our planet’s closest thing to a paper of record, the IPCC report was the fourth story on the website.
The reason, I think, is a disconnect between the dire words of the report and the actions most people feel they can effectively take. If the world has begun to fall off a cliff – due, as the report says, to a lack of political commitment – then installing a heat pump in your basement seems like a useful gesture but also not enough. “The climate timebomb is ticking,” the UN secretary general, António Guterres, said. If a bomb is about to go off, you need to actually do something.
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Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/mar/27/older-people-climate-protest-banks-ipcc
“It landed in the world with a gentle plop” – I wish I’d thought of that line.
The problem is not the disconnect between the words of the report and the actions people feel they can take. The problem is the disconnect between the IPCC and their credibility.
For more than 30 years we’ve been listening to the United Nations and other tax money guzzling organisations try to scare us with imaginary climate hobgoblins, ozone holes, acid rain, it’s a long list of utter nonsense.
If the IPCC wants to make more than a “gentle plop” in the world with their apocalyptic but widely ignored pronouncements, they need to start getting some predictions right.
not unlike the plop of a good turd in the morning.
“…like a turd freshly dropped from the anus of Satan.” – Martin Luther
Accompanied by a resounding Fart from between the sweaty hairy buttocks of the appointed climatariat. Inhale ye peasants and wonder, for this is the wind of the future
ROFL 🙂
+1000!!!🤣🤣🤣
Wokie-dokie must be broke in the head by complaining about the umpteenth IPCC scare-mongering plop, approved by 97% of “scientists”, 100% of “journalists”, 110% of government bureaucrats, who likely never analyzed, designed or operated any energy systems. Will he ever get tired of it?
I would have said
“It landed with a great FLOP”
“gentle plop” ==> dog’s breakfast
Poor Bill. He has been active in the Climate Change™ cult for 35 years and at age 62 can see how far the movement {pun intended} has come. Plop, plop, fizz, fizz (Apology to Alka-Seltzer)
Active over 35 years and nothing learned…. 😀
nothing learned…au contraire….
I think he saw how successful the WWF had been since 1961, bringing in so much money they didn’t know what to do with it all, other than buying safari habitat worldwide and paying poachers to be park wardens some days of the week…that he decided his own “donate button” eco-cause would result in a good gig for himself in which he doesn’t have to do much, has lots of cash available, pays no taxes….So “nuttin’ learned is actually ‘nuff learned”….
It would be interesting to know his wealth and spending trends. Hockey stick?
Eco grifting and grafting has a whole new vibe to it, totally a woke thing. Even Charles THE THURD is doing it, to polish the Windsor image
That’s cuz all he can understand are the third party summaries of the Executive Summary. Reading the actual report is way beyond his pay grade.
He’s worried about his retirement fund so he can travel on vacation.
Funny detail from AR6: The IPCC suggests various methods of “climate mitigation”. Among them is CCT – cirrus cloud thinning (see 4.6.3.3.3). By artificially reducing cirrus clouds we should effectively be able to counter global warming.
Now if you look up the sky most of the time you will find cirrus clouds there. And usually they will look like in the picture below. These are man-made cirrus clouds obviously. It brings up one delicate question. If artificially reducing cirrus clouds is a significant way to cool the planet, then what instead is the effect of adding huge amounts of artifical cirrus clouds, which we actually do?
The official IPCC position is, to say at least, amibiguous. Adding these cirrus clouds would only have a negligible effect (0.06W/m2), as opposed to removing them?! Of course, you can not be true in this regard if you want to blame the warming on CO2 instead..
https://greenhousedefect.com/contrails-a-forcing-to-be-reckoned-with
those are chemicals injected into the atmosphere to block out the sun – and what I have read the chemicals are cancer causing – more stupid, and costly ideas from our climate alarmists elites – aka US Government
Yes, mostly the potentially deadly dihydrogen monoxide and hydrogen hydroxide.
”those are chemicals injected into the atmosphere to block out the sun”
No they’re not.
Is that you Griff???
It might be Simon 😉
“By artificially reducing cirrus clouds we should effectively be able to counter global warming.”
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Please stop buying into the nonsense. Please stop suggesting ways to disrupt the environment, destroy the economy and your way of life.
Those wispy clouds are left overs of jet plane vapor trails.
The H2O of combustion is condensed on the sub-micron combustion particles that scatter a very small part of the incoming sunlight.
The outgoing LW radiation does not “see” such small particles
These wispy clouds have become a permanent feature, because they are far above the troposphere, which has lots of mixing
McKibben vs. Epstein Debate on Fossil Fuels
Alex mopped the floor with McKibben. Please, everyone must watch this- though it’s 10 years old. Already, Alex was getting good at debates. We now see him everywhere including Congress. He’s a fearless debater. He’s got his own web site dedicated to teaching people “talking points” in defense of fossil fuels and he’s all over YouTube.
I’ve read most of McKibben’s books. They’re dumb- sort of “climate change for dummies”- of, by and for a dummy.
Thank you for taking the bullet in watching that crap. I can’t do it myself.
I enjoy watching idiots like McKibben get beat up on stage.
Still chip chip chipping away-
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I believe that I can make a difference. I simply don’t believe the IPCC, or the UN.
Minority of a minority effect with disparate models of sensitivity and observational dysphoria.
When you ignore reality, it ignores you.
Thank you, mleskovarsocalrrcom. I enjoyed that. Made me smile.
Regards,
Bob
Reality catches up with everyone sooner or later.
You might ignore reality, but it won’t ignore you.
So long as the developing world refuses to accept perpetual energy poverty, climate cultist’s fantasies will not come true.
From the article: “The brutal truth is that last week’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report didn’t have the effect it should have had, or that its authors clearly intended. Produced by thousands of scientists who synthesized the work of tens of thousands of their peers over the last decade, and meticulously drafted by teams of careful communicators, it landed in the world with a gentle plop, not the resounding thud that’s required.”
That’s because Climate Change Alarmists have cried Wolf too much.
Climate Change Alarmists cry Wolf all the time, and the Wolf never appears. People notice.
Aye, there’s the rub. It isn’t the work of the scientists synthesizing the work of peers. Working Group One’s report came out over a year ago and was insufficient in its alarm. The Summary for Policy Makers, which was published last week, was the meticulous re-writing of the Working Group reports into an alarmist screed that plopped. It’s the same old yammering without an ounce of support that people are ignoring.
Yep — Just can’t publish climate “science” – These “reports” must go via the alarmist spin doctors for re-wording prior to wider dissemination to the masses..
“synthesize” is a synonym for “fabricate,” and the impactful part of the IPCC reports is not authored by scientists.
The disconnect between the IPCC and credibility? Didn’t know they ever had any.
A bridge too far.
From here to fore McKibben shall be known far and wide as McPloppen.
Weepy Bill McPloppen … said with a Rowan Atkinson pronunciation.
I’m proud to be part of Third Act, a climate activist organization for people over the age of 60
I’m over 70 and proud not to be part of such a BS organisation. 😀
Shouldn’t that be “Turd Act”?
I’m over 70 and proud not to be part of such a BS organisation.
I was 23 when I wrote a thesis heavily based on Paul Ehrlich’s rubbish. I’ve long since chucked the thesis in the trash and, like you, I’m now over 70 and proud not to be part of any BS climate activist organizations.
Produced by thousands of scientists who synthesized the work of tens of thousands of their peers
right – wonder why they never name any of these scientists or why none of them ever participate in public debates
China, the world’s biggest emitter – perhaps people are starting to understand that the sacrifices they are being asked to make are irrelevant as China & India etc. continue to emit more CO2 than they can conserve – so their efforts are worthless
or perhaps they are beginning to understand that the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere from man’s industrial and transportation is so insignificant that it couldn’t possibly have any effect on the climate
or perhaps they are starting to wonder why if CO2 is so bad why do greenhouse growers inject more if it into their greenhouses to increase plant growth, and isn’t that what supposedly CO2 is doing to the earth so why is that bad?
one can only hope
I had the same thought. Just who are these “thousands of scientists” and their tens of thousands of peers.” Names please?
I made the greenhouse point on Instagram recently and the reply was, “Well, yeah, but the nurseries just want to increase their profits.”
China and India build wind and solar for play acting purposes, so they can have access to western markets to sell goods and services.
“…meticulously drafted by teams of careful communicators…” [the recent IPCC report-dd]
LOL. Yes, for the purpose of persuasion to urgent action. Perhaps little regard for the validity of the claims, though.
BTW, those of us over 60 remember the meticulously drafted global cooling articles from the 1970’s.
It’s as cold as I remember it to be.
“…people don’t believe they can make a difference.” And they are right!
Biden can double or triple the amount he has proposed for “Climate Change” in his budget and it will not make any difference to the worlds temperatures, future climate or extreme weather.
(But if we only outlawed gas stoves we would stop forest fires in California and Flooding in India.)
No, but it will make Climate Change really rich.
The manufacturers and installers will be having decades of extra work.
Each installation must be approved by a bureaucrat to get subsidies
And wars in Ukraine.
”it landed in the world with a gentle plop”
No more appropriate terminology can be found. Thank you Weepy Bill for likening yet another fraudulent prophecy of doom from the IPCC to the aquatic arrival of lumps of digested effluent expelled from the nether regions of corpulent trough feeders into the porcelain throne. You have given the most recent report its well deserved place in history and each and everyone’s imagination. Should you wish to elaborate further you might want to mention the aroma, or perhaps the self replicating contagion of infectious pathology buried within those plopping lumps of academic detritus, not to mention those climate threatening methane emissions that must invariably accompany each and every IPCC report as it exits the feculent back door of the political pseudoscience digestive system. Bill you are a poet though you may not know it.
We’ve spent trillions and trillions of dollars and it hasn’t made a difference. It hasn’t made a difference because “climate change” isn’t driven by human “carbon” emissions. “Climate change” isn’t a real problem, either.
Produced by thousands of scientists who synthesized the work of tens of thousands of their peers over the last decade,
From Bing operating in AI mode …
(my bold)
Or to make up. The grand narrative was made up of numerous false narratives.
Bill McKibben, I don’t know what to say. He is an embarrassment.
He and his admirers do not know that!!
Poor Bill McK. He got taken out of action by Michael Moore in his scathing toppling of renewables in Planet of the Humans. He’s definitely looking like he’s in the Last Act.
If the IPCC wants to make more than a “gentle plop” in the world with their apocalyptic but widely ignored pronouncements, they need to start getting some predictions right.
Yeah, like that’s going to happen!
“Yeah, like that’s going to happen!”
No, it’s not going to happen. All their alarmist claims about the Earth’s weather have already been disproven by the historical records. All the metrics are down, not up, as they claim.
The only hope for the Climate Change Alarmist narrative is for the temperatures to rise and continue to rise beyond the 2016 highpoint.
If temperatures continue to cool, then the climate alarmists have no arguments left. They can make up Science Fiction stories about what would happen if it continued to warm, but if it’s not warming, then it’s science fiction. So their only hope to continue the narrative is for the temperatures to rise. They are on shaky ground right now.
Blaming the Chinese and Russians for AGW looks like another excuse for baiting those two into some kind of kinetic conflict. If the foreigners don’t fall in line with the narrative they must be guilty of crimes against humanity and subdued by the new, renewable electricity weapons of war. With Christine Warmuth at the helm, at least the war to come won’t be a hot one. https://nailheadtom.blogspot.com/2022/02/an-electric-army.html
Cripes. You might as well hire a janitor to run your atomic energy research program.
I’m certain Biden has already done that.
You know, all those private jets at Davos don’t really instill confidence in our “leaders”.
John Kerry saying they are buying carbon offsets (AKA climate indulgences) doesn’t help.
The Obamas buying a mansion on Martha’s vineyard doesn’t make you believe the oceans are endangering anything.
The truth be known, those making the biggest noises aren’t living up to the hype.
China is building coal plants as fast as they can. India is a bit slower. Russia merely plays the game.
Meanwhile, Europe and the U.S. are destroying themselves in a quixotic quest.
Obama wants to live amongst the elites of Woke-achusetts. At least Jimmy Carter went back to the peanut farm.
Obama cannot go back to Chicago. Crime and taxes are killers there now.
That’s because when Don Obama left Chicago all the other bosses scrambled to get a piece of his action.
“McKibben believes the reason the IPCC’s increasingly frantic climate warning are being ignored is people don’t believe they can make a difference.”
Maybe that is the reason. But it might also be that people recognize BS when they see it.
nailed it!
and if they want to scare people, as usual, they should wait until a summer heat wave- not in March- here in Wokachusetts, the 2nd half of winter has been nasty- and this March very nasty, dam cold and wet and snowy the entire month- everybody is praying for some hot, dry weather so they aren’t going to “panic” as Dr. Greta Thunberg wants over some trivial warming- since McKibben is nearby in VT, you’d think he’s understand that- if he was in touch with normal people instead of egg heads like himself
Try “C. All of the above.”
As we’re on sayings……..
“Everything is possible when you understand nothing”
“A fool and his money are soon parted”
“When nothing else makes sense, follow the (his) money”
PS Bonus edition… watch Lois stick some reality to a UK “meteorologist”, hope the moderator doesn’t mind… https://twitter.com/catandman/status/1640718263310245889
It landed with a plop and went straight around the bend.
Bill has spent too much time at the hairdressers and once they’d finished washing his follicle they washed his brain.
Epic service, wonder what they were talking about?
No worries, Grauniad will shoot its mouth off (and foot) sooner or later
(I leave you to ponder if this occured ‘down under’)
Brain? What brain?
Just call it bad promotional timing amongst Ukraine war funding, rising interest rates, and tapped out deficit spending. Professional hawkers don’t understand such constraints.
Then there are those pesky cost estimate errors to contend with.
story tip
Goldman Sees Biden’s Clean-Energy Law Costing US $1.2 Trillion (yahoo.com)
And maybe folk don’t believe they can make a difference is because there is not a difference to be made.
But, but – I do my recycling, and I got solar panels and a ‘lectric car…. Why are there still big storms? — It’s just not fair..boohoo…
Those big storms are caused by these big wind turbines
It landed in the world with a gentle plop, just like all the other shif coming out of the IPCC.
McKibben needs to understand that people are just sick and tired of all the climate doomsayers and their failed catastrophe predictions.
What a fruitloop
Speaking of “would-be autocrats”, I could place Bill McKibben high on the list of those who, in his own mind, know better than us mere mortals who make a living understanding complex technologies and providing expert advice that influences the lives of multitudes.
The claim that AR6 was drafted by thousands of scientists (people we can respect for their knowledge) … and meticulously drafted by teams of careful communicators (people with a vested interest and/or paid bias) may well be true. “Communicators” twist the reality produced by scientists all the time.
What McKibben is saying is that the advice and prescriptions contained in AR6 is “safe and effective”. Where have we heard that before.
Dear readers, you simply must see Tony Heller’s investigation into himself using the AI Chat robot. Head over to realclimatescience.com and read what “careful communicators” have to say about climate scientists and who we should believe (and who not).
We can see where McKibben has been moonlighting. The ignorance is breathtaking. Chat bots are working examples of artificial stupidity.
When do the block-level meetings of the IPCC begin?
Well, he’s right in a way. Nobody can make a difference in the climate or the weather. They can only make us poorer.
A waste of time and money
Instead, we could use that to rule the world from Washington and Brussels
Another fool who fell for the “Climate Crisis” propaganda which is utter nonsense as it is coming from the Twilight Zone.
I quit reading the IPECAC reports years ago after too many failures for their always baked up scenarios are always too high.
FACT: NO Hot Spot exist. Sherwood’s 2008 and 2015 I found the Hot Spot evidence papers are stupid!
FACT: NO Positive Feedback Loop exist. Not the same as Positive Feedbacks.
FACT: NO Climate Crisis.
The reason, I think, is a disconnect between the dire words of the report and the WG1 part of the report produced by thousands of scientists who synthesized the work of tens of thousands of their peers over the last decade. In spite of having a team of scientists prepared to corrupt their science for the IPCC, WG1 has still had a shred of integrity, and they have progressively found themselves unable to present scientific papers that support the required scary narrative. A lot more integrity from the start would have been very much better, but at least now after 35 years the corrupted science basis has run out of steam.
“but at least now after 35 years the corrupted science basis has run out of steam.”
That’s right. They haven’t been able to come up with any evidence for what they claim.
The only “evidence” they can point to is the recent temperature record corresponds with an increase in CO2, but the temperatures have been flat since 1998, with the exception of a few El Ninos, and the temperatures have now cooled by 0.6C since the El Nino of 2016 and all this has taken place even though more CO2 is going into the atmosphere.
If the temperatures cool to the same level as happened in the 1970’s, then the IPCC can pack up and go home. Their CO2 theory is blown to hell.
2023 will be the hottest year in ever. Take it to the bank.
I have been reliably informed by many people over the years that I am “a lazy sod with a short attention span”.
As such from the TAR (2001) to AR5 (2013) I only looked at the WG-I assessment reports, and found increasing discrepancies between the “alarmist” contents of the SPM and the mostly good “scientific” content of the main (WG-I) reports.
The main reports were full of “(90%) confidence intervals” and “error ranges”, with frank discussions about the “uncertainty” surrounding many issues.
The SPMs were not …
With the AR6 cycle of documents, I actually took the time to at least do a “quick skim / fast scroll through” of the WG-II and WG-III assessment reports.
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What was released on Monday of last week by the IPCC was not the “Full volume” of “The (Synthesis) Report” (AR6 SYR), it was the SPM to the SYR.
Note that on Friday a “Longer Report” was also released on the IPCCs “AR6 Synthesis Report : Climate Change 2023” webpage (direct link).
After closer reading this actually appears to be a midway between what were called “Technical Summary” sections of the Working Group assessment reports and a “Longer SPM, with added hysteria and hyperbole” document.
From the (AR6) WG-I report, AKA “The Physical Science Basis” (section 1.6.1.4, “The likelihood of reference scenarios, scenario uncertainty and storylines”, on page 239) :
Note that the (new, CMIP6) SSP3-7.0 and SSP5-8.5 “emission pathways” neatly bracket the (old, CMIP5) RCP8.5 pathway.
From the WG-II, or “Adaptation”, report (sub-section “AR6 WGI Reference Periods, Climate Projections and Global Warming Levels” of Cross-Chapter Box CLIMATE, “Climate Reference Periods, Global Warming Levels, and Common Climate Dimensions”, on page 136) :
From the WG-III, or “Mitigation”, report I think that FAQ 3.3, “How plausible are high emissions scenarios, and how do they inform policy?”, on page 386, is worth copying in its entirety :
WG-I : If you look at all of “the scientific literature” it is clear that RCP8.5 is CUB (*).
WG-II (and WG-III) : Yes RCP8.5 is CUB (*) … but we’re going to use any “outlier” studies we can find to justify scaring people anyway.
WG-III (1) : RCP8.5 is “very useful” for our political goals.
WG-III (2) : When it comes to mitigating CO2 emissions “higher than anticipated” population and economic growth should be considered as “Bad Things”.
(*) CUB = Complete and Utter B*ll*cks.
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Going back to the WG-II, “Adapation”, report again we find (in section 1.1.4, “What is New in the History of Interdisciplinary Climate Change Assessment”, on page 131) :
For both the WG-II and WG-III teams : “Science ? We don’t need no steeeenking science !”
The witch doctors will save us.
”I’m proud to be part of Third Act, a climate activist organization for people over the age of 60”
I wonder Bill will still be around to be a part of the Sixth Act for those over the age of 90 when climate change alarmists and their failed predictions will be proven to be one big plop.
The IPCC budget should be zeroed out. The organization should be disbanded. The name should be expunged from the UN (in fact the UN should be expunged from the UN, but that’s another story).
UN internal files should be impounded and examined by a group of independent scientists and lawyers.
Who among the IPCC honcho-istas knew they were perpetrating a dishonest fraud and when did they know it? 1996 comes to mind.
“If a bomb is about to go off, you need to actually do something.”
Yes. This: https://youtu.be/sKbP-M8vVtw
The key word in that statement is IF.
Not happening, so the rest of Bill’s twaddle can simply be ignored.
I got news for these fools. The tougher you are making life for the average person, the less they are going to be persuaded or concerned about your climate doomsday fantasies.
It’s not merely that people feel they can’t make a difference regarding whatever climate change is supposedly occurring, it’s that they have few , if any, intentions to make any major lifestyle changes that will solve the problem. And when they see one country after the next either missing their emissions reduction targets or not even attempt to meet them, they can’t see why they should go to any great lengths themselves, particularly if it’s going to cost them more to achieve next to nothing.
people don’t believe they can make a difference
Well, yeah! When the alarmists keep bleating endless doom and insist the only solutions are ones that are utterly impractical, the natural response is learned helplessness; a kind of catatonic stupor of apathy.
Of course the reality is that none of the doom will happen in a hundred lifetimes so in fact the people who have become apathetic are actually realistic. Ironically.
Good way to put it. 🙂
“installing a heat pump in your basement seems like a useful gesture.”
It looks to me like McKibben must be one of those people that tries to cool his kitchen on hot days by opening the refrigerator door.
Poor old Bill – no thought for people who don’t have the luxury of basements 🙂
It’s so cold in Seattle I need to keep my thumb in my crotch to hit the like button on posts🤣🤣🤣
Sorry Mr. McKibben, it’s not that we don’t think we can make a difference, it’s because we realize that the IPCC prognostications are utter nonsense. The costly computer models are worthless and the agenda of the UN, IPCC, WEF and CCP have nothing to do with the Climate and has everything to do with destroying capitalism.
McKibben’s delusions come from his inability to listen instead of lecture and preach (screech).
It’s doubtful that McKibben can conceive of any positions opposite to his Earth is burning.
Poor sad old man – does he still believe that 350ppm can be achieved and, with the Guardian, that it’s a safe level? Oh dear. Clearly deluded. And not good on American chips – see Planet of the Humans
The end of the world is newsworthy and exciting, the first time.
Less so the second time.
It’s been three times a decade for thirty years. Even the cats have died by now.
So the news story has died too.
Results from a recent local poll –
“What’s the biggest issue in Wales right now?”
The NHS 42%
Cost of living 29%
Other 14%
Transport 8%
Climate change 4%
Housing 2%
Education 1%
Shows how deluded people are when anything is lower on the list than “climate change.”
a gentle plop huh?
hope they flushed
As an individual, I can’t change much. As a concerned citizen, I can promote the idea that nuclear fission is safe for by standers, not by industrial “safety features”, but by the fact accidents are pretty safe.
The worst is unlikely and even then it’s only an industrial/economic issue.
We need to advocate a rule: in case of accident, don’t move out of the region (unless you had to go there in the first place), don’t lock downs, don’t do stuff, don’t watch Russia Today.
Fix the plant and don’t issue public warnings.
That is, no warning except “don’t go near a melting reactor because hydrogen is dangerous”.
That is, don’t go where you wouldn’t go in the first place.
That is, don’t change anything.
It’s ridiculous that a Chernobyl is a unit of ultimate global ecological and health disaster.
Chernobyl is a local shock on nature and had huge health impact on some people who went to work over a minuscule area (that many people had to work there is another problem).
During the war on Ukraine we had a lot of propaganda by Ukrainians and notably insane Chernobyl propaganda that implies that there is a no go zone that kills people (Russian soldiers in that case).
It’s patently ridiculous. Many Russian soldiers died by nobody got sick “because Chernobyl”.
Yet nobody in mainstream Western media will touch that piece of Ukrainian propagandist garbage to refute it.
Russian Chernobyl propaganda is even more ridiculous: “Soviet heroes saved all Europe from the ultimate explosion” they say.
They did dig a trench for water, which was hard work, but those that did it were the least impacted from reactor 4 radiation (so in fact they had less health issues) and the trench was never used for anything.
There was exactly zero risk of any explosion wiping Europe.
Both Russian and Ukrainian propaganda make nuclear scary, we need to call out both.
Note: I don’t buy the idea that Ukrainian Chernobyl propaganda is war propaganda. Russian soldiers die every day and scary radiation isn’t what will prevent the Russian mothers of these young people from sleeping.
I think Ukraine is a Gazprom linked entity and needs to be called out as such.
As the West supports Ukraine, maybe we can make then retract one of their lies.
Another celebrity moron.