Essay by Eric Worrall
A new political party which represents farmers who are fed up with police shooting at their kids and threatened evictions for daring to work the land has won a “monster” endorsement from Dutch voters.
Trump and Le Pen backed these Dutch farmers – now they’ve sprung an election shock
By Sophie Tanno, CNN
Published 5:12 AM EDT, Sun March 19, 2023
A farmers’ protest party in the Netherlands has caused a shock after winning provincial elections this week just four years after their founding. Could their rise have wider implications?
The Farmer-Citizen Movement or BoerburgerBeweging (BBB) grew out of mass demonstrations against the Dutch government’s environmental policies, protests that saw farmers using their tractors to block public roads. The BBB is now set to become the largest party in the Dutch senate.
The developments have thrown the Dutch government’s ambitious environmental plans into doubt and are being watched closely by the rest of Europe.
The movement was powered by ordinary farmers but has become an unlikely front in the culture wars. Donald Trump and Marine Le Pen have voiced support, while some in the far right see the movement as embodying their ideas of elites using green policies to trample on the rights of individuals.
The first exit poll showed the party was due to win 15 of the Senate’s 75 seats with almost 20 per cent of the vote. Meanwhile Rutte’s ruling VVD party dropped from 12 to 10 seats – leaving it without a Senate majority. Results on Thursday showed the BBB party had won the most votes in eight of the country’s 12 provinces.
…Read more: https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/19/europe/netherlands-farmers-protest-party-intl/index.html
I think it is fair to say this election outcome has sent shockwaves through all of Europe and beyond.
The green globalists are not invincible, all it takes to defeat them is people who are willing to stand up and demand fair and decent treatment, and who are willing to vote for politicians who prioritise the safety of families and children, and the preservation of livelyhoods, ahead of whatever environmental concerns they hold.
So we see another example of A Bridge Too Far in Holland. I hope they take no prisoners.
Funnily enough, you could call this operation market garden.
I was born in the Netherlands
During my frequent visits, I always mentioned the idiocy of unlimited immigration and the government regimentation of the people, under the guise of “benign government helping people”
When super-woke Rutte became prime minister, all hell broke lose, when he started to prohibit the use of fertilizers, which would put most farmers out of business.
Huge demonstrations, some violence, cops sprayed with cow manure,
There is only one way to win.
AT THE BALLOT BOX
TURN OUT EN MASSE AND KICK THE WOKE BASTARDS OUT
I assume this tactic only works because the Dutch keep updated voter rolls and require photo ID at elections – criteria we don’t meet in many of our Democrat Machine districts within our so-called ‘swing states’.
The Dutch have no registered voter lists
Everyone has a national photo ID, with visible and invisible bio data, and street address where you receive mail.
No PO Boxes.
Your voting location is determined by your street address.
There is no mail-out of ballots
In Germany, no machines of any kind are allowed, per German Constitution
All is hand-counted in about ONE DAY
Yes. You are incorrect that it takes one day. Out of district votes are added later and rechecking takes time as well. As the MMP system does require very precise vote totals
But like most other western countries its a one candidate or party list election. The German senate is selected by the states, the Chancellor is selected by the party not the voters
Theres not every thing from President, Senate, congress Governor state houses, county officials, sheriff or mayor dog catcher etc
Much easier to count with a single ballot paper
US software machines dont work like you think. Dominion machines just print a ballot with the choices made from the dozens of races, excluding those candidates not chosen
Thats the paper record thats digital scanned and available for a hand count if required – usually only one race for the dozens on the paper. It used to be a punched card
Are you confusing Netherlands and Germany?
Dutch = Netherlands
Deutsch = German
I also think there is room for a party for ‘Climate Realists’ everywhere. In Holland they need room to build houses for asylum seekers and young Dutch families. The State is trying to chase the farmers away with scare stories about too much nitrite, nitrates and ammonia that ‘will damage nature’. This is the biggest BS story I have ever heard. But it is only in this way that they can get hold of the farmer’s ground cheaply. Take a lesson.
Henry, no. There is a building stop because the construction also emits too much nitrogen, due to the extreme limits that the government has declared themselves, and now blames Brussels for the limit.
Hans. Life without NOx is not possible. In male persons it is the cause or reason for erection. It is made naturally by the sun and atmosphere TOA. If you don’t have data for at least the length of the GB cycle i.e ca. 90 years, you cannot decide on a limit. If you look at the whole earth, the Netherlands is just a red dot. And this is the only country in the world that has a “nitrogen” problem….
And they need land for building….
Put the 2 and 2 together?
That’s why woke Rutte is such an ignorant nut job
To make it worse, his using his position to force rational people, who grow food, to be like him
Now that is a medical snippet I didn’t know. As you may know, there is a craze to drive cars, filled with NOx. They buy 1kg bottles and open the valve. So, does size matter? 😄
I think you mean N2O. But it is fine. It is also made by God. It is a good gas. Watch out for the false god.
The Green Religion | Bread on the water
The Greens treat it like a war. So should everyone else.
The “Greens” are all watermelons: green on the outside, (commie) red on the inside.
The rest of the parties and the press will classify them as extreme right wing and use the dirtiest (woke) tricks in the book. This is how they politically eliminated Thierry Baudet. Sadly enough there are a lot of stupid people in the Netherlands.
They already did that in the press release posted. The entiure 4th paragraph is designed to create the link in your mind they are right wing extremists.
So they are so stupid that they don’t know where their food comes from?
Of course they know food comes from the supermarket. And maybe they too know it comes out of one of those nasty trucks driven by right wing drivers trying to kill you whenever they can on the road.
This action needs to spread across the rest of the EUSSR before the autocratic green/left completely dominates policy.
I wouldn’t have bet on the Netherlands given the sea level hysteria and the lowlands there, but I’m glad to see it. When we visited a few years ago, we spent a few days in an AirB&B out in farm country. Terrific people. Very tall people (I believe the tallest in the world, on average). Harder to drown that way.
Joe, they are very pragmatic people in general and don’t particularly worry about sea level rise because they have dealt with it for centuries and understand the issue better than most peoples. It is only the inner-city elites who are pushing these stupid climate issues, not the ordinary country folk, especially hard-working farmers.
Because it is more that the land sinks than the sea rises, for the same reason that in Sweden the land rises and the sea sinks.
Unfortunately, people “who are willing to vote for politicians who prioritise the safety of families and children, and the preservation of livelyhoods, ahead of whatever environmental concerns they hold” can only vote for politicians who actually stand for office. No sign of any of them around here ……
Beat me to it!
Particularly hard here in Greta Britain given our first past the post electoral system, combined with our appalling media (even GBN is rapidly going to the dogs alas).
Ok, so for me over here on the other side of the Atlantic, how does “first pass the post” work? Is it not representative democracy?
So, the candidate for an electoral seat (a parliamentary constituency) receiving the highest number of votes at an election wins the seat. The party with the highest number of seats is then, generally, invited by the King to form a government. There can, of course, be difficulties if there is no one party with an overall majority so that there has to be either some form of coalition or a minority government which may have trouble enacting legislation (voted on by Parliament).
As there are 3 major political parties in England (ignoring the other smaller nations of the UK), generally, the party with the highest number of seats will have less than 50% of the total votes cast so that, in essence, the majority of the country did not vote for them – hardly representative.
Once elected, the Member of Parliament is a representative but the trouble is that they represent their own view and not that of their party or of their constituency. So, often, they can vote against the government of the day even if that government is their own party and, as is patently clear, they are only interested in themselves and politicking and in no way act in the best interests of their constituency.
Unless there is a new political party with a hope of displacing them, we will never rid ourselves of this. The Reform UK party is attempting to do this but is unlikely to gain any traction at the ballot box.
Other forms of “democracy” are often suggested such as proportional representation but, as this does not tend to suit the 2 major parties, it is only the third that tries to push it.
FPTP results in changes of government which mean that most people get to live under a government they voted for at some point. It is impossible (see Ken Arrow’s Impossibility theorem) to devise an electoral system that satisfies a majority all the time. Governments formed under forms of PR are detached from voter wishes to varying degrees. They depend on negotiated coalitions with no guarantee of polices that a voter would like to see getting implemented. In list systems the connection between the voter and the candidate disappears, because the party controls who gets elected.
Unfortunately, the party systems under FPTP are now undermining its operation. Candidate choice is determined by small party cliques with often very limited nominal choice offered to party members at best. Then there is the tendency to do inter-party deals behind the backs of voters – and that certainly applies to climate policy.
Whatever the voting system, parliaments now find themselves increasingly powerless anyway, with their laws undermined by uncooperative civil servants and quangos and judiciaries. By only implementing policies they agree with they effectively decide on government. It has been the long march through the institutions that leaves voters bewildered and disaffected and unrepresented, while totalitarian control gets ever nearer. Eventually of course it will be overthrown – probably in violent revolution.
The people have ceded power to political parties. They have been seduced by the proclaimed need to have a winner and be in that group. If the voters want their power back they can have it by voting only for independents. This will keep power where it belongs. With the people.
Also note that, after three years of nonsense on steroids, where the “Government” decided on their latest, even more lunatic and tyranical diktat, the only voices from ALL the other parties in parliament, howled for “Sooner! Faster! Harder! Longer!
As it becomes as plain as a pikestaff that all the “interventions” were at best useless and often malicious, certainly not “safe and effective” and usually driven by nice fat brown envelopes; it is fair to say that any honest voter with an IQ score greater than their hat size, is just a tad cynical at this point in time.
So who to vote for? Or maybe to vote against? What chance it will make any difference – so spoil the ballot paper “None of these egregious barstewards!” Or stop at home.
Fabulous for democracy.
And don’t forget the obvious fact that, if you think HMG’s response to the Plandemic was a trifle bad (tens of thousands unnecessarily dead, children’s education and mental health badly damaged, the multi- Billion economic costs which will last for generations), just remember that much of the evil inflicted on us, was as bad as a cracked biscuit at a vicarage tea party compared to the results that will come from the decades long lunatic quest for “Net Zero”, with the very same bad actors.
Time for pitchforks and flaming torches!
In a word, NO.
First past the post is the best possible electoral system. It elects the candidate with the most votes. It does not require an absolute majority. So it is possible that a candidate can win where a majority of voters voted for other candidates. This is not a problem except for woketards who do not understand that democracy must have two parts ie. a majority and a minority. The perceived problem with FPP arises with the insertion of political parties. The minority and majority become fixed along idealogical lines rather than being dynamic and driven by the issues being voted on.
Party candidates buy a party ticket with their obedience. They represent not the voter and not themselves but only the party.
If the voter wants to be represented they need to vote for an independent who represents them. That independent then represents him/herselfe. Personal integrity of both are preserved. Of course the candidate should be measured by a criteria that no party candidate can match. Like intelligence, achievement, education, integrity and morality.
I’d disagree and think the preferential system is better than 1st past the post. You end up with a winner who has the majority of the vote that has been chosen by the people they represent. That is the system used here in Australia.
It’s probably “the least disliked”, but does allow lodging a protest vote with the first preference for a minor party candidate with no chance of winning, followed by the least objectionable major party candidate.
That gives the nominally centre-right and centre-left major parties an idea of whether to harden or soften their lines.
That doesn’t seem achievable with first past the post, because that protest vote expires and the more objectionable mob might sneak in.
All preferential systems attempt to address the mythical failings of the first past the post system. However it is the party system where the failings are. So, it matters not how you change the party system. The party system is rotten and needs to go. Or to put it another way “one cannot pick up a turd by the clean end”
So it is possible that a candidate can win where a majority of voters voted for other candidates.
That leaves a majority of the voters unrepresented. I don’t see how that’s good.
Frankly, I would prefer the Brewster’s Millions approach: None of the Above. If nobody gets a majority, nobody is elected. See ya next election.
FPP returns the most preferred candidate. In a democracy there are no winners and losers. The correct term is majority and minority. the winner and loser mentality plays into the hands of those who like the voters power like it was their own. A key condition of democracy is that law made by the majority applies to all. The minority remain an inseparable part. Like night and day.
I must correct you there. Very often, I guess in most constituencies, it wasn’t the “preferred” candidate. Rather the least loathed and distrusted candidate. Not quite the same thing.
Ok. least unprepared.
Should be least unprefered.
“A key condition of democracy is that law made by the majority applies to all.”
So, two wolves and a sheep.
Well, in parliamentary elections, the Brexit party never won a seat although they did well in European elections.
And, back to the UK parliament, loads of seats were won by the LibDems and even the eggregious Green MP, with far and away less support than the Brexit Party achieved.
It would be great, if there were decent candidates to vote for. Used to work reasonably well, most of the time.
Would be better anyway if the vote was restricted to those who paid taxes. And preferably with entitlement to vote raised to at least 21.
Dicking with voter eligibility is an old trick. It used to be that only male land owners could vote. I think things have moved on since then.
First past the post is actually one of the worst electoral systems. Herr H got in with such a voting system with his Goons forcing some to vote for him (eg union members, public servants) and stopping others from voting (eg those of a particular faith). he then got about 37% of the vote. Even in a preferential system such as Australia there is cheating (double voting, union or green forced voting, dead persons voting etc but because the elected person has to achieve more than 50% of compulsory eligible votes the chance of getting a government wrongly voted in less is very much reduced. Normally, government lose an election rather than an opposite winning. It sad just sad that so many of all the major parties in Australia believe in the lies associated with climate. There are no greenhouse gases other that water vapor and associated clouds. Methane does not absorb radiation and is certainly not worse than CO2 which is a beneficial gas. Nitrates (NOx ) has no relevance to anything to do with climate. There is no increase in cyclones, hurricanes, floods, drought etc. The world will be better when supposed net zero and AGW is forgotten.
Herr H. was the leader of the national Socialists German Workers party. That is why he was elected. Again. The problem was the party system not the electoral system. One person doesn’t make a government unless it is a party government. All of the worlds despots, in the modern era, have been or are the pinnacle of a party. Go figure.
So are Albanese and co. Good for Australia?
With the remarkable rise of the Reform Party (already third-biggest party in terms of intentions to vote, well ahead of the Green Party and the Lib Dems), things could get interesting in British politics.
It doesn’t matter which party. they are all rubbish. The fastest growing movement are independents. They scare party politicians witless.
I am still sharpening the tines on my pitchfork awaiting the day when quite a number of people actually wake up and realise that no matter how many billions, or even trillions, are spent on chasing the impossible Net Zero, absolutely nothing will change, (unless King Canute has been reincarnated) and that they are being conned and fleeced by their own government!
it certainly defies all common sense to believe that removing a minisculs amount of CO2 from the atmosphere, at a cost of trillions of dollars and the destrustion of livelihoods of millions of people, is somehow magically going to solve all weather issues –
This was mainly a fertiliser and manure issue, not climate.
Agreed, in this Dutch case.
Here in the UK, we have an abundance of verbal manure on every side.
A new kind of vaccination. It might just work.
There is a tendency towards a Uniparty, where major parties are not all that different. Vote against AlGore, and get GW Bush.
In some respects they were running mates.
Good report, Eric. Let’s hope this is the first domino to fall, and that it contacts the next and things get going fast.
Hats up to the BBB in Holland ! Unfortunately, the elites will learn from this defeat and will try make sure something like this doesn’t happen again … with E-ID, social credit system and voting machines ??
Just look how the Swamp drained The Donald.
They won, as I read the official result, 17 seats.
Hardly ‘won’ in the US sense as they have 138 seats out of 572 over the 12 provinces
Its a very dutch result with 20% seen as ‘won’. Even in the rural provinces the best result is around 1/3. The major urbanised provinces its more 15%.
In no province are the BBB even a majority and the top official will still be a government appointee
Dooming doesn’t sell forever and it’s running out of steam-
The doomers are wrong about humanity’s future — and its past (msn.com)
The doomers can keep up their message with the weather worrying but their net-zero prescription will be their crash and burn.
Wow, that’s a surprising take from Vox.
And the article pretty much admits that women’s’ liberation was in large part by fossil fuels and the home technology they enabled:
“But it was aided by the invention of labor-saving technologies in the home like washing machines and refrigerators that primarily gave time back to women and made it easier for them to move into the workforce.”
Women have always been in the workforce !
Unless they were very rich and never worked. What used to happen was marriage or children ended the working time.
That clearly was untenable alongside being paid less or excluded from many ordinary jobs.
The Green Party lost almost 20 percent of its seats
No, GroenLinks stayed the same, BBB won seats from the christian democrats (CDA) https://nos.nl/collectie/13923/artikel/2467604-bekijk-hier-alle-uitslagen-van-de-provinciale-statenverkiezingen
BBB is a rather unfortunate initialism, even in the EU.
Better Business Bureau?
Build Back Better
Laugh or cry:“Putin’s remarks had a thin veneer of truth. Although Coffey said people should “cherish” specialist British produce, she seemed unaware that Britain’s biggest turnip grower was in her constituency – and had stopped growing them months earlier.
here (also word-for-word at grauniad)
See the girl herself at the grauniad link
Lose some weight hun otherwise and inside 5 years, your hips will have completely & irreparably collapsed and you’ll be wheelchair-bound. Thereafter without any exercise your lymphatic system will give up – the size of your legs tells that it’s struggling already.
(Sorry, somebody had to say it – Where Is Her Doctor On This)
While the mental-health disaster-zone that is: Joe Biden is ruling the world by starting WW3, in somebody else’s back yard.
(Putin said what he said because even he knew the UK grower had gone out of the turnip-growing business)
The reason why Dutch people are tall, thin, empathic and intelligent is because they eat a lot of saturated fat. Check out Poland and its people also,
They did, after all, develop The World’s Most Efficient Food Production Device/System.
i.e The Friesian Dairy Cow
“…ahead of whatever environmental concerns they hold.”
A stronger statement would have been better. One of the first things Trump did was take the U.S. out of the Paris Climate Accords.
And stopped paying the WHO.
Yes. The OMG moment came when the US CO2 reduced anyway.
For obvious reasons Trump had no luck making Coal king again.
I saw yesterday that – according to Bartbreit – they had 17 seats. I checked and all the MSM has it at 15, but then….
Netherlands, regional elections:
Prognosis based on 99% of the vote counted
Senate seat projection
BBB-*: 17 (new)
PvdA/GL-S&D|G/EFA: 15 (+1)
VVD-RE: 10 (-2)
CDA-EPP: 5 (-4)
D66-RE: 5 (-1)
PVV→ID: 4 (-1)
PvdD-LEFT: 4 (+1)
+/− vs. 2019 election
I understand the final result is due later in the week. But the MSM is sticking with 15 seats.
This at least makes a change from yesterday’s BBC output and the [IPCC divined] end of the world.
The official result so far.
Yes. The Dutch Senate elections a a complicated system with some direct elects and some from the provincial electors. Wont happen till 30th May and currently its a statistical projection
Its the provincial electors that are more or less finalised ( as its proportional party lists)
But BBB results in provinces varied with smaller rural ones maybe 33% of vote and the larger population provinces with major cities they are 10%
Btw, about the election result, I postet about as story tip the last week.
They waited for the first exit poll…!
Oh horror of horrors!
The left has contempt for populist politicians.
I have a simple lesson for the left. How do you prevent populist politicians? Easy. You don’t make it necessary to vote for the populists. The Democrats threw the working people under the bus, and the result was Trump. The Democrats should mend their ways because the election of Trump was just a mild rebuke. The next time, the result could be much much worse than Trump. Just look at 20th century history.
They need to remember July 14, 1789.
Wasn’t that the day the king wrote in his diary “Nothing of interest happened today”
The unrest had been happening for some months before what later became bastille day
the King had bought 30,000 soldiers into Paris.
More interesting is Macron using the constitution to pass laws by Presidential decree and not require a vote in the National Assembly. Its happened 11 times in past year including the budget.
This is end game of Weimar Republic stuff
I resent the use of “populist” used with derogatory implications. The notion that people who support even slightly right of centre views are some sort of “unedified” group who need to be kept from exercising their vote for Trump is insulting. Trump at least seems to show respect for voters, whoever they are.
Really. He didnt respect the vote when elected when he had a Blue Ribbon commission appointed to prove he won by a popular vote landslide…he didnt
Secon time round he neither won in the electoral college nor the popular vote with 81.2 mill to 74.2 mill, and even lower vote share than than 2016
OK. But it is fair to point out that, if indeed it could be shown that the Dems didn’t steal the election, it certainly wasn’t for want of trying.
The only party trying to subvert the election result was republicans and Trump. His documented and caught on tape phone calls will mean some jail time in Georgia is on the cards
Fox news will likely have a massive payout for the known falsehoods they broadcast against Dominion voting .
Yes. Just like here in the UK, it was the Labia Party who gave us the Climate Change Act 2008 and presently campaigns for Open Borders and more tax on Fossil Fuels and faster Net Zero.
The working class ( or even the middle class)? At best, an embarrassment. They don’t live in Highgate and Islington, anyway.
Cameron and May were more than happy to take on Paris Climate Treaty and update CCA 2008 from its reduction levels to even more absurd numbers 100% reduction by 2080
All major parties in 2008 voted for CCA 2008
Next up Belgium? Protesting Flemish farmers blocked up roads in Brussels over the same issues.
Once the Walloons sign on…
When the elites start messing with the food supply, then people start getting serious.
It was sort of inevitable that somewhere, sometime, what a government told its people they HAD to do in order to save the planet would reach a level of daftness that would provoke this sort of reaction. Thank goodness! Is common sense coming back into fashion? Surprising it was in the Netherlands, though…
I just checked the Dutch press. The arithmetic of the new upper house looks like this. The government coalition drops from 32 seats to 22 seats, leaving it needing 16 seats of support to achieve a majority vote – possibly less in the event of abstentions. Groen Links and PvdA form a left wing block of 15 seats, so either a couple of abstentions or another vote from somewhere would force through lefty climate policy. PvdD, the animal rights party has 4 seats, and would almost certainly provide the necessary.
Things risk getting more interesting if one of the government coalition parties drops out, but for now the smell of power prevents that.
I note that they actually have a Nitrogen Minister. It has long been the case that the minister for water has been very important in government, ensuring that dijks are maintained and floods prevented. But Nitrogen?
Nitrogen…. will be for the Guinness.
Reports show 17 seats which means nobody can form a majority.
I have explained the voting maths. 22+15+>=1 is a majority.
The actual Senate election isnt till 30 May, so you are referring to statistical projections based on …well its usually last time
BBB is projected to be 17 and the projections vary
Perhaps more important is the knock on effect. How long before CDA walks out of the coalition?
Sounds like they need a photosynthesis minister more.
A minister bright enough to fart and chew gum at the same time would be good.
I’m a Dutchmasn.
It’s worse than that. The minister for Climate and Energy tried to explain what nitrogen is on National television. His words:
” It’s a substance that when there is to much of it in the air, it will form a blanket over everything and then suffocate it”
That is alas what happens when social studies are enough to allow you to become a Minister of Energy and Climate. It is horrible to see this walking Dunning-Kruger example.
The success story of BBB is caused by the total inept and dangerous governments of the last ten years all lead by Mr. Teflon Mark Rutte or Marx Ratte as he is often called.
His memory lapse are legendary when testifying under oath. ” I do not have an active memory of that” Is his most frequent answer.
He also, against all rules, deleted most of the messages on his phone when the Covid-19 response was being investigated. His excuse was that he has a very old Nokia phone with a small capacity for messages. That’s why he routinely deletes them.
And he just gets away with it. The BBB victory will bring change and hopefully an end to this charlatan.
So does he think 79% is too high? 😀
He doesn’t understand the difference between N2 in the atmosphere and compounds like NOx or ammonia.
I lived and worked in Den Haag for a while, and visited the Netherlands on business over many years, so you have my sympathies.
Indeed. The Netherlands has a minister for “Nature and Nitrogen”. I guess that since the majority (about 78%) of the air that we breathe is nitrogen, the Dutch need a minister to represent this majority. ;-p
Hell yes! Nitrogen is 79% of the Atmosphere! Surely Nitrogen deserved at least one lousy Minister committed to banning it!
Its the NOX versions and its a groundwater issue too. But just proves that even when they take action against Carbon gases , up will spring even more minor greenhouse gasses for the alarmists to get worked up over
Oh, this won’t stop them. Ultimately because the riff-raff keep voting incorrectly, they’ll just stop letting them vote at all on anything of consequence. “For the planet”, after all.
Maybe do more before Shell leaves the country.
Shell already left, it is now a fully british company.
At least until UK climate policies force them to reconsider their decision
Then they’ll move to Texas and merge with EXXONMobile. Someone come up with a name for the “new” company….
Complacency turned to anger turned to action at the polls. It’s happening in many places. Now all we need to do is keep the vote honest.
A very good appraisal from Eva Vlaardingerbroek
Ik kom uit Engeland, maar ik woonde drie jaar in Nederland, van 1977 tot 1980. Ik sta achter de boeren: https://libertarianism.uk/2019/10/20/ik-sta-achter-de-boeren/.
You can wait on governments, bureaucrats, administrators, experts and professionals all you want. Mobilize the average citizen and watch what happens.
As long as we people can fire our politicians there will be punishment for those who try to make and keep us hungry, cold, poor and enslaved.
The problem is a dead donkey could win a party seat. And yes, when the party takes a reversal the donkey is the first to go. If the people want to do their own hiring and firing they need to vote for independents. The need for parties is all in the head.
I’m pretty much in favour of firing our politicians. Preferably out of cannons.
Would make very popular TV, I think.