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Claim: A Majority of Voters believe Climate Change is a False Religion

Essay by Eric Worrall

Claim: A Majority of Voters believe Climate Change is a False Religion

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Eric Worrall

Essay by Eric Worrall

“… the climate religion actually has nothing to do with the climate. It is all about power, control, dominion and apologizing for America’s own success.  …”

Is Climate Change a False Religion?

Tuesday, March 14, 2023

A majority of voters agree with a Republican presidential candidate’s criticism of climate change as a “religion” that isn’t really about the climate at all.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 60% of Likely U.S. voters agree – including 47% who Strongly Agree – with Vivek Ramasamy’s recent statement that climate change has become a religion that “actually has nothing to do with the climate” and is really about power and control. Thirty-five percent (35%) disagree with Ramaswamy’s statement, including 25% who Strongly Disagree. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

Seventy-nine percent (79%) of Republicans, 45% of Democrats and 60% of voters not affiliated with either major party at least somewhat agree with Ramaswamy’s description of climate change as a religion.

Twenty-one percent (21%) voters believe the problem of climate change is getting better, up from 18% in May 2022. LINK TO Climate Change: Democrats More Concerned Than Other Voters Thirty-two percent (32%) now say climate change is getting worse, down from 38% last May. Forty-two percent (42%) think the climate change problem is staying about the same.

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The fox News interview which triggered this poll (note the link in the article above is wrong):

Vivek Ramaswamy reveals the ‘dirty little secret’ of climate religion: ‘All about power, control’

Climate religion is shackling the US, says the GOP presidential candidate

By Fox News Staff | Fox News

Strive Asset Management co-founder and Executive Chairman Vivek Ramaswamy, who announced his bid as a GOP 2024 presidential candidate, joined  “Sunday Morning Futures” to discuss how the climate religion is shackling America and why it needs to be abandoned.

MARIA BARTIROMO: … The Biden administration’s main priority is the climate change agenda. This is a whole of government approach, and it has impacted the national security of being oil independent, energy independent.

VIVEK RAMASWAMY: … I mean, you think about actually handing $40 billion-plus to Ukraine with one hand at the same time that Biden was lobbying actually the EU from its Russian oil import ban. The reason is because we’ve shot our own fossil fuel industry in the foot, and it is because of this climate religion, but the dirty little secret, Maria [Bartiromo], that not a lot of people know is the climate religion actually has nothing to do with the climate. It is all about power, control, dominion and apologizing for America’s own success. … What they really want to do is punish America and establish this agenda of global equity, which also allows China to catch up to us …

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A word of caution. This is a single data point, an apparent significant departure from other polls which claim a majority is concerned about climate change.

But just maybe the tide is turning.

A lot of things have been going wrong for wind and solar fanatics lately. Biden, arguably the President with the greatest record of subsidizing unreliable wind and solar in America’s history, had his chance to bring down energy prices with his solar panels and wind turbines. Instead, he delivered the spectacle of the US Secretary of State crawling to the Saudis, begging for access to their oil, oil which could have been delivered by the Keystone Pipeline and other petroleum projects the Biden administration sabotaged.

In Britain and Germany – energy prices. Chancellor Olaf Scholz of Germany has implausibly promised an energy miracle, but Britain and Europe have already waited a long time for the promised reward for all the hardship they have endured and the trillion Pounds and Euros spent over the last few decades.

The measures Britain and Germany have taken to avert catastrophe in the face of Russian gas supply disruption, and the utter failure of  the climate alarmist’s energy programmes to deliver, are beyond embarrassing. Germany is bulldozing villagesold growth forests, even a wind farm to dig up coal to avoid further deindustrialization caused by their maniacal reliance on intermittent wind and solar. Britain deferred decommissioning her decrepit coal plants. Just as well, Britain needed those coal plants again just last week.

In Australia, Prime Minister Albanese, who won on the promise of a substantial drop in energy prices, well that promise is now looking pretty shaky. Household energy prices are set to rise 20%, 30% next year?Who knows. What we do know, is it will be a lot – and the dirt cheap coal power which bring down prices is scheduled to be shut down.

With the promises of the climate religion wearing thin, and climate concern faltering in the face of mortgage stress and soaring energy bills, perhaps this Rasmussen poll is what it appears to be – an early indication of a sea change in public opinion concerning climate change and climate action.

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March 15, 2023 10:36 am

In terms of the tide changing on climate rather abruptly, it may just be so. Greta’s deleted tweet may have helped, as well as the ridiculousness of the gas ranges and now the washing machines (the only things the administration seems to be able to have accomplished, as well as issuing domestic terrorist alerts). And let’s not forget the bank run added to all the inflation…

Reply to  Decaf
March 15, 2023 9:52 pm

 “Greta’s deleted tweet may have helped”

I doubt if leftist-biased media covered the story.

Greta has a lot to learn aout leftist propaganda.

You must make scary predictions every year and never allow people to notice all your old predictions were wrong.

That Greta made a dumb 2018 prediction is typical of leftists.

That she deleted it and we found out is a beginner’s mistake.

Last edited 11 days ago by Richard Greene
March 15, 2023 10:42 am

A minor quibble. False religion doesn’t fully describe the reality. Suicidal cult is more accurate. E.g. the famine in Siri Lanka when the government cut off the importation of fertilizer.

Scarecrow Repair
Reply to  oilcanjon
March 15, 2023 1:58 pm

Not suicidal; homicidal; the greenies have no intention of dying for the cause, they want everyone else to die.

March 15, 2023 10:42 am

It’s a religion (i.e. behavioral protocol, morality in a universal frame, ethics its relativistic sibling, law their politically consensual cousin). It’s a faith (i.e. trust logical domain). It’s an ideology (i.e. secular order).

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William Howard
Reply to  n.n
March 15, 2023 11:45 am

no kidding – i recently had a conversation with a member of the cult and asked her if she knew how much CO2 was in the atmosphere – nope – did she know that the vast majority of CO2 in the atmosphere is naturally occurring – nope – would her opinion of CO2 affecting the climate be changed if she knew that at best the amount of CO2 that would be removed from the atmosphere with net zero was something like 1 one hundredth of 1 %, an amount that couldn’t affect anything let alone the climate of the entire world – nope

Mark Whitney
Reply to  William Howard
March 15, 2023 12:00 pm

You actually tried to use numbers and attempted to encourage thinking. That is like trying to get them to breathe water. It is fundamentally alien to such a creature.

Reply to  Mark Whitney
March 17, 2023 7:51 am

Math is racist them.

J Boles
Reply to  William Howard
March 15, 2023 12:02 pm

Does she have any solar panels on the roof or yard? nope

David Pentland
Reply to  William Howard
March 15, 2023 12:40 pm

Did you mention that the most powerful greenhouse gas is water?

Reply to  David Pentland
March 15, 2023 10:03 pm

Irrelevant because water vapor is not a direct cause of global warming. It is a positive feedback for any changes of troposphere temperature from any causes.

Reply to  Richard Greene
March 16, 2023 3:55 pm

Suppose, there are both positive and negative water feedbacks, like clouds increasing albedo. We may not be able to discern their contributions, but the overall water feedback is clearly not positive. If the water feedback were positive, it would have caused runway warming all by itself, and this would have happened long time ago. The Earth climate can warm for a multitude of reasons and by a much larger amount than the minuscule effect from CO2 (if this effect exists). With a positive water feedback, adding CO2 (anthropogenic or not) or any other greenhouse gas would not be necessary to initiate a warming cycle. 

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Reply to  William Howard
March 15, 2023 10:00 pm

Manmade CO2 emissions caused about 33% of the current 420ppm. I suspect you didn’t know that when using the phrase “vast majority”

“at best the amount of CO2 that would be removed from the atmosphere with net zero was something like 1 one hundredth of 1 %”,

The goal of Nut Zero is to stop the growth of the atmospheric CO2 level after 2050. That means CO2 emissions will be small enough to be completely absorbed by nature. There is no Nut Zero goal of reducing the total CO2 level. The goal is to reduce CO2 emissions.

You need more climate science study to be correct when trying to influence other people.

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Reply to  Richard Greene
March 15, 2023 10:36 pm

Richard, where is your evidence for the 33% value as most physicists put it at 3-6%?
Also, where is the evidence that water vapour gives overall positive feedback to AGW, as most physicists agree that it is negative for lower troposphere clouds, as it acts to moderate warming climate? Are you relying on Summary for Policy makers IPCC reports, or the real IPCC scientific reports?

Reply to  bobclose
March 16, 2023 11:48 am

“Richard, where is your evidence for the 33% value as most physicists put it at 3-6%?”

Only science fools say that.

Ed Berry and Murray Salby are the only two I’ve found in 25 years of climate science reading of almost entirely “skeptic” scientists and authors.

I am tired of refuting this claptrap, but I promised myself to try to stop the 3% to 5% manmade CO2 nonsense claim this year. The correct answer is about 33%.

All additions to atmospheric CO2 since 1850 were from manmade CO2 emissions that were enough to cause +200ppm to +300ppm more atmospheric CO2. I use a large range because saying “about +250ppm” would sound too precise.

Some of the manmade CO2 was absorbed by oceans, land and plants, so the net CO2 increase was only +140ppm — all from manmade CO2 emissions/

Two questions to challenge your false beliefs,
and get you angry at me:

(1) If the +200ppm to +300ppm of manmade CO2 emissions did not stay in the atmosphere, then where did they go?

(2) If the atmospheric CO2 increase of +140ppm was not caused by manmade CO2 emissions, then what caused it?

You will NEVER be able to answer these two questions in a way to defend the 3% to 5% manmade CO2 malarkey. No science denier has even tried to answer these questions for the past few years that I have asked them.

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Reply to  bobclose
March 16, 2023 12:36 pm

The increase has been from around 280ppm to around 420ppm. That’s about 33%
CO2 levels were in equilibrium prior to the time when man started burning fossil fuels.
We know based on how much coal has been mined and oil and natgas pumped about how much fossil fuels have been burnt. That amount is more than sufficient to account for all of the CO2 increase since 1850.

Reply to  Richard Greene
March 16, 2023 3:48 am

The goal of Nut Zero is to stop the growth of the atmospheric CO2 level after 2050

No, the goal of Nut-Zero is the destruction of capitalism. Nothing to do with climate, science or a gas.

Reply to  SteveG
March 16, 2023 12:07 pm

You are right but I was just talking about the stated goal.
I hate to tell you that capitalism is gone as of 2020 in the US

By my definition of socialism, the beginning of socialism (in practice — not the textbook definition) is total government spending over 33% of GDP. US went over 33% in 2020 and 2021 and we were at an average of 34.5% of GDP in 2022. But closed the year lower.

When various levels of government, Social Security and Medicare account for over one third of GDP, it’s misleading to claim this is capitalism.

There is some capitalism in China, but we still call that nation communist, even though it does not meet the textbook definition of communism.

” A pillar of China’s economy, the private sector contributes more than half of the country’s tax revenue, 60 per cent of the gross domestic”

.China’s private sector struggling with ‘common prosperity’, Covid-19 and financing; SOEs thrive | South China Morning Post (

I have strong doubts about China’s Real GDP numbers.
I excluded them from my old ECONOMIC LOGIC newsletter because they never correlated with Chinese electricity use statistics, which was very suspicious to me.

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Reply to  Richard Greene
March 16, 2023 5:10 pm

Various estimates I’ve read show roughly 750 to 800 Gt annual natural emissions. Emissions related to human activity are estimated around 32-35 Gt annually. About 4%. “You need more climate science study” – agreed, but not in the way you seem to expect.

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D Boss
Reply to  William Howard
March 16, 2023 6:06 am

You might as well attempt to explain nuclear energy to your dog… “now fido, E=mc²” and in response you get “Arfff”… But sarcasm aside, this proves Bonhoeffer’s Theory of Stupidity in that stupid people are far more dangerous than evil ones. You can fight or argue against evil doers, but against stupid people reasoned arguments are useless.

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  n.n
March 15, 2023 12:59 pm

It’s a religion with priests, cardinals, popes, missionaries and inquisitions. If you don’t join you might get canceled- like the Dilbert cartoon.

Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
March 15, 2023 2:47 pm

Also…… a garden of Eden (pre industrialization), pennance (high taxes and energy costs) and an Apocalypse (famine and end of the world due to our sins). The whole cult enchilada.

Philip CM
March 15, 2023 11:05 am

Claim: A Majority of Voters believe Climate Change is a False Religion

It’s a hard claim to support given the number of politicians getting elected to office around the world who bow to the CAGW agenda. The global energy crisis and the continuing anti-petroleum policies of government[s] and financial institutions like The International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the World Bank highlight this.

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Reply to  Philip CM
March 15, 2023 11:42 am

Are you proposing that public support has more than a token influence on who gets elected to public office?
What a novel idea, somebody should try it!
Such a pity they are un-hackable, otherwise we could program the counting machines at voting stations to help us get the true numbers?
Then all the RIGHT people will be running things around here…

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  Philip CM
March 15, 2023 1:00 pm

perhaps too many of those who don’t have the faith don’t vote

Reply to  Philip CM
March 16, 2023 11:22 am

It seems a bit of a paradox, until you remember how low folks rank AGW/ACC on their list of concerns. Not only arent they worried about it, they don’t appear to care when our Politbiro folks virtue signal about it.

Matthew Bergin
Reply to  Philip CM
March 17, 2023 6:08 am

They are not being elected. All elections are compromised these days. We have a prime minister supposedly elected in Canada that I have tried but have been unable to find anyone who admits to voting for him. 🤷‍♀️😒

Gunga Din
March 15, 2023 11:15 am

“… the climate religion actually has nothing to do with the climate. It is all about power, control, dominion and apologizing for America’s own success.  …”

What in “The Green New Deal” had anything to do with the climate?
( At one point Brandon dubbed it “The Biden Plan”.)

William Howard
Reply to  Gunga Din
March 15, 2023 11:46 am

the head of the UNIPCC is on record that the green movement is more about destroying capitalism than the environment

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  William Howard
March 15, 2023 1:01 pm

they don’t mention that on CNN

Matthew Bergin
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
March 17, 2023 6:10 am

That is because it is true. CNN lies like Biden.

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Gunga Din
March 15, 2023 1:25 pm

“Under my plan, electricity prices will NECESSARILY skyrocket.” – Biden’s co-conspirator.

March 15, 2023 11:15 am

Dictators like Xi Jinping pretend support of reducing CO2 as long as it helps their power hold. Every gubment around the world supports this fake climate change narrative becuz it means mo power…mo control….mo money…..and it allows the dictator or pol to say look at me – I’m saving the planet.

Reply to  antigtiff
March 15, 2023 10:06 pm

China has a serious air pollution problem they are trying to reduce with more modern clean coal power plants, and more nuclear power plants, along with solar panels and windmills.

Matthew Bergin
Reply to  Richard Greene
March 17, 2023 6:21 am

No they’re not. The Chinese government is building and bringing online at least one hugh coal plant a month to power their factories to produce useless unreliable power sources they can then sell to western democracies to destroy their energy and monetary systems. They don’t care if they destroy their country’s environment in the process. The Chinese also use a lot of slave labour which is not very nice. 😠

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James Snook
March 15, 2023 11:30 am

Throughout history, leaders of religion have become hooked on the power, control and ability to exploit its followers that comes with the position.

William Howard
March 15, 2023 11:39 am

wait till the masses find out that trillions of their money are being spent to remove only a tiny amount of CO2 from the atmosphere which couldn’t affect anything let alone the climate of the entire world

Chris Nisbet
Reply to  William Howard
March 15, 2023 5:36 pm

John Kerry has already told us that. I don’t think anybody was listening.

Matthew Bergin
Reply to  William Howard
March 17, 2023 6:26 am

It is a shame people don’t get enough math skills in school to be capable of understanding the numbers.

Rud Istvan
March 15, 2023 11:53 am

Warmunists do resemble a religious cult in some ways. They are impervious to facts, and their beliefs are very rigid. But not in other ways. Plainly a lot of academic careers have been built on it via government grant money. And governments get involved because of the money politicians can raise from the renewable industry. Those part are more like a classic Mafia gang.

March 15, 2023 12:06 pm

The people are realizing that truth is overcoming climate prophesies. You can only tell a lie for so long.

Reply to  mleskovarsocalrrcom
March 15, 2023 1:57 pm

40 years and counting…what a lie!

Jeff L
March 15, 2023 12:18 pm

If it is a religion, then it is a state-sponsored religion. I would love someone to bring that challenge in court ! :))

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  Jeff L
March 15, 2023 1:08 pm

good point- and easy enough to show the religious elements of the “climate emergency”- presenting that case might not win in court but it would be good publicity as I bet many people never came to that conclusion- it might weaken their faith if it’s not that strong- those dedicated to the cause, of course, will go right into the lions’ den rather than admit their error

March 15, 2023 12:53 pm

“”Climate religion is shackling the US””

It’s shackling the western/developed world.

From the Climate Church Times… aka The Guardian

“”UK ‘must act now on renewable energy or risk being left behind’””

“”America’s dirty divide
The heat pump revolution is here””

“”Scientists warn of ‘phosphogeddon’ “”

You have to believe

March 15, 2023 1:01 pm

Rush Limbaugh said this years ago.

if they can control how much and type of energy you can have they control you.

March 15, 2023 1:39 pm

I guess heavy climate doom and false attributions for everything including local rains, snow, and wind gusts on a daily basis has produced self-inflicted counter results. A follow-up question should ask if this new religion is harming science process and educational systems.

March 15, 2023 1:43 pm

Climate Change is the dogma of the false religion of Communism. All of their ploys are prosecuted as dogma, & those who disagree are treated as evil heretics.

Climate change, Green energy, Vaxing (mystery injections mandated by government politicians), Social Warrior campaigns, racial issues, Marxist Critical Race Theory, men competing as women to destroy woman’s sports, Pronoun disputes, abortion, mutilation & sterilization of children, the Confederate flag, ignoring that it was the British Crown that forced the colonies to accept slavery & the US fought a bloody war to eliminate it under the Betsy Ross flag, & other lying historical changes are some of these Communist dogmas that receive the fanatic following that is usually only given to religions. The Communist religion is another one that will not tolerate rival religions & will try to destroy anyone who has heretical ideas & does not blindly follow the collective mindset. These dogmas only receive fanatic support because they are part of the Communist revolutionary movement, They would not receive that sort of backing on their own. Look at the big picture & connect the dots.

Reply to  Greebo
March 15, 2023 10:14 pm

Look at the big picture & connect the dots.

You have, and you did

Getting to totalitarianism, whether fascism or communism, requires ruining what works in an existing economy. And censorship of opposing ideas and people who say them.

This transition is in progress in the US and has been accelerating for the past few years. A slow-motion Marxist revolution that too many conservatives see as only government incompetence. In fact, leftists are very competent on getting more power and control. Consider how they used Covid for that purpose.

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March 15, 2023 1:44 pm

In the background, maybe the public is starting to understand the consequences of climate religion policy costs in their consumer bills for utilities and many other items. Of course, they are having to make the connections on their own in an otherwise totally biased media and political environment run by PR staffs and oligarch news.

March 15, 2023 2:07 pm

“A word of caution. This is a single data point, an apparent significant departure from other polls which claim a majority is concerned about climate change.

Of course you are right but don’t forget how much mileage the shameless climate liars got out of the disgraceful 97% nonsense. I’m certain the Rasmussen survey is light years more legitimate than the stinking Cook(?) poll.

Jim Karlock
Reply to  Bob
March 15, 2023 10:12 pm

Yes, it is the Cook poll. The truly awful thing is that it is widely represented as claiming that 97% of scientists believe man is causing serious global warming.
It looked at the abstracts of 11,944 papers and found “that 66.4% of abstracts expressed no position on AGW, 32.6% endorsed AGW, 0.7% rejected AGW and 0.3% were uncertain about the cause of global warming.”
So he did the obvious thing and tossed out 66.4% of his results!

So it is dishonest to

Represent it as a survey of scientists when it actually is of abstracts of papers Claim anything higher than 33.6% when they tossed out 66.4%The 97% was based on a subset of the 32.6%, but the press ignored that.

I am not aware of any effort by Cook to correct that false claim.
Cook paper:
More at:

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Reply to  Jim Karlock
March 16, 2023 12:40 pm

The vast majority of the 33.6% just took global warming as a given and then made projections about what would happen in a warming world.
Hardly an endorsement.

March 15, 2023 2:09 pm

People generally don’t view the climate question in isolation. They see it as but one manifestation of the societal rot.

When they give climate opinions, folks are putting a lot of other issues into the same bucket: COVID source and COVID response, climate, BLM, defund the police, mutilate children, DEI, ESG, KFASP+ (add a letter) activism, “equity,” men in women’s sports, inability to define the difference between men and women, wokeism, pronouns, cancel culture, wind and solar power, EVs, CRT, WEF, incompetent or demented politicians, inflation, banking crisis, media and social media collusion, Jan 6, crusade against Christians, etc.

ALL of these issues are pushed in lock step using the same script by all of the same people. It doesn’t take a genius to see that there is a power play at work bent on destroying western civilization and killing the world’s poor en masse. Call it a conspiracy theory, or accept that it is an actual conspiracy, more people know in their gut that the lunatics are running the asylum.

March 15, 2023 2:11 pm

They are due for a lot more religious pain and suffering in the years ahead, even with periodic low-price periods for natural gas. The war in Ukraine will need to go a lot longer as the scapegoat for policy fail.

story tip

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By David Uberti and Ryan Dezember
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March 15, 2023 2:27 pm

Despite all the yakking by politicians and the media and special interest groups, the thing that motivates the most people the most are pocketbook issues. Mess with the average person’s cost of living and standard of living, and voters get angry and take it out on whoever is in power. Bank on it, pardon the pun.

ethical voter
March 15, 2023 3:12 pm

This morning I noticed an opinion piece in the Washington post titled ‘ What if climate change meant not doom — But abundance?” by Rebecca Solnit. I don’t subscribe to the WP so am not sure what lies beneath. Could it be that the worm is turning? Let’s hope so. An end to the insanity of the warmunists is what the wold needs right now.

David Pentland
Reply to  ethical voter
March 15, 2023 4:11 pm

Not so… Just more of the WaPo dogma.
From the article:
“this crisis demands specific action: a swift transition toward renewables”

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March 15, 2023 7:09 pm

It certainly has all the signs of a religion amongst the useful idiot foot soldiers, but they are just pawns in a much bigger power game.

The main driver for all the CAGW/Green energy madness is a maniac desire for more authoritarian global control by three main groups. These are the UN using the IPCC CO2 myth as its Trojan Horse, along with the WHO (central pandemic control) and World Bank (denying developing countries cheap reliable energy); the billionaire technological and banking elites pushing their WEF and ESG agendas; and the Marxists pushing a socialist agenda through faux environmental and social justice concerns. All of these use the same set of tools like pushing education to the left, a compliant press, censorship on social media, cancellation of any opposing point of view, and so on.

The fervent religious climate activist groups are simply providing unwitting support for the wet dreams of globalists.

March 15, 2023 7:51 pm

Is Climate Change a False Religion?” Yes. Next stupid question please.

March 15, 2023 8:59 pm

I guess it depends on how you define “religion”. A very basic definition might be a belief in a higher power. Yet, these clowns believe that modern humans control the climate, or so they say. We know what this is about. “Climate change” is an excuse to strangle our modernized economy. Why? To quote Orwell, imagine a boot stomping on a human face…

March 15, 2023 9:47 pm

The survey is biased by the wording of question three, although the results are the best news in years: Eliminating the bias would make the results even better news, IMHO.

3* Do you agree or disagree with this statement: Climate change has become a religion that “actually has nothing to do with the climate” and is really about power and control?

“Has nothing to do with the climate”
is biased.

If I answered the question honestly, I could not agree that climate change has NOTHING to do with the climate, even though I think climate change is over 90% politics and under 10% climate science.

The question should have asked if climate change is more like a religion than like science. “Nothing to do” is a biased phrase.

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March 16, 2023 4:16 am

A good essay…On The Church Of Climate.

Inside the Church of Climate | AIER

Bruce Cobb
March 16, 2023 4:18 am

To be more accurate, “Climate Change” is a memeplex, but not a lot of people are familiar with that concept, so it gets called a “religion”, which is close enough I guess. And it does make the True Believers hopping mad, so that’s good.

March 16, 2023 5:01 am

I have a front row seat in the electric utility industry. I don’t think it is a religion. It is simply people seeking status and promotions.

If my issue is important and I’m doing something about it, I’m a leader with a better shot at the CEO seat. I couldn’t care less what the issue is. I just need to be seen leading the solution.

I haven’t met one leader yet who knows or cares about the science.

The only way to stop it is to create a new and bigger thing that people can demonstrate leadership doing.

D Boss
March 16, 2023 6:29 am

A potentially hopeful sign that the masses are not idiots to be corralled and controlled… I suspect as more and more visceral examples of the actual cost of this societal suicide cult becomes apparent this trend will continue.

Threatening to force austerity can be ignored, until they actually try to take away gas stoves, gas or oil furnaces, and now washing machines that don’t clean your clothes…. and promising to ban IC (Internal Combustion) engines can be ignored, until loonifornia bans all lawn mower, weed whacker, and generator engines. Doing things like this makes the apparently lunatic promises real to the average person.

Then add in that they said the western US is in a 1200 year drought, but then 20 feet of snow occurs, with another foot or two of rain on top….

Then add in the failure of a serious bank, which is revealed funded mostly woke or climate projects and cared not for fiscal responsibility, but rather adhering to the DIE religion (Diversity, Inclusion and Equity) – which potentially threatens a cascade banking failure…

And people begin to see you cannot ignore this lunatic cult’s insane proclamations anymore.

How fast this about face appears to have taken place is not a surprise. Gad Saad who has lead a crusade against this woke nonsense for some time regularly says “we can end this by next Tuesday, if everyone grows a backbone and simply says “no” to the descent into the abyss of infinite lunacy”

Bruce Cobb
March 16, 2023 7:00 am

I gotta say, Vivek has a lot going for him. I don’t necessarily agree with everything he says, but I would vote for him in a heartbeat.

March 16, 2023 9:32 am

They may believe it to be a false religion, but one with enough power and influence that they publicly maintain the party line for fear of reprisal.

March 16, 2023 10:32 am

Well, this climate religion got off on the wrong foot when Al Gore crowned himself the Climate Pope and chief scientist.

Reply to  ResourceGuy
March 16, 2023 12:13 pm

I crowned him Al “the climate blimp” Gore

March 16, 2023 1:57 pm

“In the name of liberalism”( R. Reagan), with religious fervor they are coming after your thoughts, your mind, your speech, you assemblies, your food, you farms, your land, your faith and your church…… and you money either by taking it or shrinking it.

It’s time for political action beyond or within both parties. It’s time for a Farm Party like in Netherlands, Time for a Free Thought Party, The Free access to fuel Party, Free the Meat party, Down with eating insects party, What Climate Crisis? party, The Free speech party, Freedom of Religion party. And the Land Reform Party, The Meat party. Push for grass roots political power and build coalitions in both parties and push like no tomorrow.

This is the only way any sort of representative power can be retained in the USA during the coming avalanche of “in the name of Liberalism”. Don’t be fooled it isn’t liberalism and it is in both parties.

March 16, 2023 3:02 pm

“Climate Change is a False Religion”

All religions are “false” in sense that they are fabrications promoting false narrative, but this is not their flaw by omission, but rather a fundamental feature by design.

All religions are creations of men designed to control other men, and Climate Change is no different.
Therefore, Climate Change is a religion, but it is no more false than any other religion.

Perhaps what is interesting, is that traditional religions appealing to groups people are declining, and this most recent one has a truly universal appeal.

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March 17, 2023 1:21 am


You assume that this survey “a single datapoint” might be wrong. There’s a 97% probability that this is not the case.

A better explanation is that the results of the Rasmusson and Pew surveys are not incompatible. It is quite possible that a respondent might be “concerned” about climate change while still believing that it has been twisted into a religion that has nothing to do with climate and is now all about political power and control.

Indeed, I would put myself into this category. I ‘strongly agree’ (along with about half of all US voters), that the issue has been politicised to the point that it is no longer even about the climate any more. And most of the media coverage certainly treats it like a religion, concerned with the purity of faith rather than with data or evidence.

But, if I had been in the Pew Survey I would have expressed my concern about GHG emissions. My country (like the USA) has signed and ratified the Paris Agreement and has committed to delivering an ambitious reduction in those emissions within the next 7 years. How are we to meet this promise? How much will it cost? Why is our progress so slow?

As I see it, the lesson to be taken from both surveys is that politicians (and the corporate media) must start treating voters as adults. The propaganda campaign of recent years has failed utterly and it is time for rational and thoughtful debates.

That is real progress

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