Essay by Eric Worrall
Reaping what our education system sowed.
As climate changes, climate anxiety rises in youth
BY DAVID SCHECHTER, HALEY RUSH, CHANCE HORNER
MARCH 2, 2023 / 9:00 AM / CBS NEWS
Kids often worry about much different things than their parents do. One of the big ones is climate change. Research shows most youth are “extremely worried” about it, leading to a phenomenon called climate anxiety. Kids and young adults who struggle with this can perceive they have no future or that humanity is doomed.
“We see that a lot of young people are saying, I think my life will be worse than my parents’ lives,” said Dr. Sarah Schwartz, a professor of psychology at Suffolk University in Boston.
A study published last year collected attitudes about climate change from 10,000 people across the world, aged 16-25.
“So, they know that the world is going to get to be a harder, darker, scarier place,” said Schwartz. “And imagining themselves in that world feels really scary for them.”
…Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/climate-change-anxiety/
Of course the kids don’t just sit there feeling frightened. Brainwashing the kids with climate fear is likely also leading to self destructive behaviours, like drug abuse.
The following is testimony from Dr. Alex Wodak, a high profile Australian expert on drug rehabilitation, to a New South Wales Ice abuse inquiry in 2019.
First, the threshold step is redefining drugs as primarily a health and social issue rather than primarily a law enforcement issue. Second, drug treatment has to be expanded and improved until it reaches the same level as other health services. Third, all penalties for personal drug use and possession have to be scrapped.
Fourth, as much of the drug market as possible has to be regulated while recognising that part of the drug market is already regulated, such a methadone treatment, needle and syringe programs, medically supervised injecting centres. It will, of course, never be possible to regulate the entire drug market. We have regulated parts of the drug market before. Edible opium was taxed and regulated in Australia until 1906 and in the United States Coca-Cola contained cocaine until 1903.
Fifth, efforts to reduce the demand for powerful psychoactive drugs in Australia have had limited benefit and require a new focus. Unless and until young Australians feel optimistic about their future, demand for drugs will remain strong. Young people, understandably, want more certainty about their future prospects, including climate, education, jobs and housing affordability. Change will be slow and incremental, like all social policy reform.
As Herb Stein, as adviser to President Nixon said:
Things that cannot go on forever don’t.
Drug prohibition cannot go on forever and will be replaced by libertarian paternalism. Thank you.
…Source: Wayback Machine
One day this period of our school system will be regarded with horror by historians, who will look back on this period as we look back on other evil periods in history when indoctrination displaced education.
Future historians will wonder, will struggle to understand how so many of the teachers of our time could bring themselves to stand in classrooms day after day spreading misery and fear, crushing the hope and optimism from the hearts of the children in their care with relentless climate brainwashing, while somehow deluding themselves into thinking they are serving the best interests of the kids.
People all watching the Murdaugh trial instead of WUWT ?
He is probably less pessimistic about his future than the typical American 15-year-old girl.
Not me. I changed the channel every time the trial would come on the screen.
I did listen to the verdict being read.
What’s a channel?
#5 is a perfume.
channel = “a band of frequencies used in radio and television transmission, especially as used by a particular station.”
That’s funny. A downvote for a wiki definition. How stupid are you!?
Aren’t you glad the authors of downvotes are not named. That way we don’t know who is the stupid one. Lucky you.
Some website software allows a person to hover their mouse pointer over the number of votes and the people who voted are listed. Aren’t you glad that’s not the case here.
I hit the wrong button.
I saw today that he was found guilty.
Maybe now that @$#! “Watch Live” yellow popup will disappear from the Fox News site!
They are still talking about it today. Give it about another week and then they’ll move on. I hope.
While it’s nice to hear that they’re extremely worried about it, what are they willing to do to combat it. If they’re like probably 90% of the population, they don’t intend to make any big lifestyle changes or sacrifices to combat whatever climate change is occurring, and that’s if it actually is occurring. I wonder how many of these kids will be foregoing a personal car, renouncing air travel, switching to a vegan diet, traveling only by mass transit, demanding that their residences be kept cooler in winter and warmer in summer, etc. Saying you’re going to do something and actually doing it are quite different , and if there were to be some follow-up study tracking how many of these kids are really taking action on climate change, I’d bet it would be under 25%.
Agreed, but I am doing my best to make no sacrifices at all due to this hoax. The kids would probably react similarly if only they and their “teachers” could read the truth!
They can’t renounce getting another new iPhone lol.
“…like probably 90% of the population, they don’t intend to make any big lifestyle changes or sacrifices to combat whatever climate change is occurring, ”
If chronic drug addiction and suicide aren’t considered big lifestyle changes or sacrifices!
Like all the narratives the Marxists have used to intimidate the populace since the ideology was born this too will not stand the test of time. The question is will freedom win?
I can remember as a kid being really scared by the Cuban Missile Crisis. GENUINELY scared. It certainly caused me to take an interest in World Affairs and politics.
Obviously, as an old codger, I recognise that my views changed as I grew up and took more nuanced views.
But I can remember little immediate affect on what I was taught at school until I was studying for my Advanced Level exams before entering University.
Even at University, not one lecturer (Engineering) seemed to think that it was important to discuss politics rather than what he was there to teach and discuss.
They never, ever, imagined going on strike, I am certain.
I also managed to get through my entire life without taking any drugs (apart from alcohol) unless it was prescribed. Recent experience has taught me to avoid a number of prescribed drugs, let alone ‘recreational’.
Now the Cuban Missile Crisis was a genuine threat to everyone. Reading now, it was a closer run thing than most people worried about.
In contrast, the Climate Crisis is at least 99.96% fraudulent. And very many people in education need to be very firmly reminded of their responsibilities.
I’m a little younger. I remember the coming ice age, PCBs in beef, mercury in fish, acid rain, the draft, and nuclear war with the Soviets and Red Chinese.
My dad said he was scared of acid rain in the 80’s as well. He also said the Y2K scare was prominent as well; he knew people who were stocking food and water and hiding in their bunkers preparing for the end of the world. It just goes to show how easy it is to scare people.
you sound very young, I had several years gainful employment thanks to Y2K, which was very much a damp squib on the day. About 20 years previously the Islamic calendar had had a change in century so it wasn’t completely unknown territory.
Like Martin Brumby my main worry was about nuclear war, although my grandmother seemed equally concerned about rockets into space changing the weather for the worse. It was her version of CACC.
We used to stockpile food for winter, 4 miles to the village shop along a minor road meant that we were vulnerable to being cut off for days or a week or more. Being hungry in the cold is not an attractive prospect. Habits formed in childhood can last a lifetime so I still have a stockpile that will last a couple of months. It’s been handy over the years I’ve never been too concerned when panic buying strikes. There have been various food shortages in my lifetime dating back decades and usually the market sorts itself out quickly, especially if governments don’t get involved.
Suez is my first memory of a crisis
All rain is slightly acidic.
Don’t forget the “Jupiter Effect”.
A bunch of planets aligned (sort of) on one side of the sun in the early 80s.
Big difference between Cuban Missile Crisis and Scissor’s list.
Y2K was a very real threat, but not in the apocalyptic end-of-world sort of way many people thought. (More so to financial institutions and billing systems which could possibly have resulted in economic turmoil but not hide-in-a-bunker sort of stuff at all) I remember there was talk of some utilities that might have had problems due to messed up calculations but I never looked into it enough to know the details. It was avoided because a lot of people put in a lot of work to make the required changes. Pouring water on that squib Ben mentions.
As I understand it, the UK screwed up so much so that a significant number of Down Syndrome babies survived the (missed) bureaucratic recommendations, and are likely now adults.
(Tee shirt caption: “I survived (because of) Y2K)
I don’t recall any of my contemporaries being particularly concerned by the Cuban Missile Crisis at the time, but we did look forward to our school’s periodic ‘go home drills’.
Yes, the Cuban Missile was a legitimate threat. I remember working at McDonalds when JFK gave his speech. Having been aware of the arms race rhetoric during the 50’s I was very scared of the outcome. Based on reading the declassified material over subsequent decades, I had reason to be scared.
Years later, a radio station put in the wrong tape for a civil defense alert, the one that said this is not a drill and an attack is imminent, instead of the one that says this is a test. I was in my car alone when I heard it and thought the end had come. My father said when I got home and asked them if they had heard the warning on the radio, my eyes were as big as saucers.
I will never be able to convince my kids and grandkids there is no climate crisis. They will have to learn that themselves. Since they were not conditioned by the eyeball to eyeball discussions that I grew up with versus the Soviets, I am not sure they will appreciate when a real threat from Russia exists.
US nuclear missiles in Turkey aimed at the USSR led to Russian missiles in Cuba aimed at the US, which were removed when the US missiles in Turkey were removed.
A Soviet submarine with nuclear missiles was attacked by US depth charges near Cuba.
The Soviet commanders considered launching a nuclear missile at the US before they were sunk.
They decided not to and they were not sunk.
That’s how close the world was to nuclear war.
Everyone knows the US won the Cuban missile crisis. The removal of missiles from Turkey aimed at Moscow was irrelevant….
“I can remember as a kid being really scared by the Cuban Missile Crisis. GENUINELY scared”.
I was scared too, until I learned I was safe from a nuclear attack hiding under the schoolroom desk. I actually got in an argument with a teacher about practicing hiding under the desk because I had new dark color pants on, and the floor was dirty. I was told teachers knew all about nuclear power so just do what they say and shut up. And that was back in the 1960s when many smart women became teachers, rather than being doctors and lawyers like they are today.
The US had nuclear missiles in Turkey aimed at the USSR, The USSR m missiles in Cuba were a retaliation several years later. The US missiles were emoved from Tiurkey to get the Soviet missiles removed rom Cuba. Some of the USSR missiles in Cuba were armed and ready to go — we were lied to about that fact.
A NUCLEAR WAR WAS MUCH CLOSER than most people realize:
2. The B-59 Submarine IncidentThat same day, a minor incident aboard a Soviet submarine might stand as the closest the world has ever come to nuclear war. On October 27, 1962, at the height of the Cuban Missile Crisis, the American destroyer USS Beale began dropping depth charges on the nuclear-armed Soviet submarine B-59, which was lurking near the U.S. blockade line around Cuba. The charges were non-lethal warning shots intended to force B-59 to the surface, but the submarine’s captain mistook them for live explosives. Convinced he was witnessing the opening salvo of World War III, the captain angrily ordered his men to arm the sub’s lone nuclear-tipped torpedo and prepare for attack.
The misunderstanding could have resulted in disaster if not for a contingency measure that required all three of the submarine’s senior officers to sign off on a nuclear launch. The Soviet captain was in favor, but Vasili Arkhipov, B-59’s second in command, refused to give his consent. After calming the captain down, Arkhipov coolly convinced his fellow officers to bring B-59 to the surface and request new orders from Moscow. The submarine eventually returned to Russia without incident, but it was over 40 years before a full account of Arkhipov’s life-saving decision finally came to light:
SOURCE OF QUOTE:
5 Cold War Close Calls – HISTORY
More information on the Cuban Missile Crisis
The Cuban Missile Crisis: A Timeline – HISTORY
People were taking it seriously. My Dads business was making modular bomb shelters fabricated from steel at the time. I remember the windows rattling in our house as the B-58 Hustler supersonic bombers flying out of Bunker Hill (Now Grissom) AFB broke the sound barrier. I remember the drills in school.
But I was just 7 years old and had no anxiety. Mom & Dad let me be a kid, as it should have been and as it should be. Teach your children about threats that they should avoid and how to avoid them. You worry about the threats that you and they have no control over if you want, but and let your kids be kids. They’ll have the worries soon enough.
This is OT but I thought you might be interested to see it. You phoo phooed the idea that Geothermal activity could cause warming. So this might interest you. To be frank, I am surprised that it is being researched since it could blow the whole AGW scam out of the water.
The Correlation of Seismic Activity and Recent Global Warming (omicsonline.org)
I was kid during the Cuban Missile Crisis. I didn’t really understand what was at stake then.
I’d never heard of this incident and just how close we came.
(But we can be thankful that JFK was at the helm and not Biden. Brandon would have launched on Moscow … Ohio.) 😎
The first demo I ever saw in my life was outside the US Embassy in Moscow at the height of the crisis. The demonstrators were bussed in by the authorities, and were brandishing placards reading “Hands off Cuba!” in English, occupying the Chaika lane in the middle of the road. A couple of young men lobbed bottles of permanent ink across four lanes of highway and a very broad sidewalk at the building. All very orchestrated. The Russians were to refuse the US permission to repaint for five years afterwards. The bus came up from the underpass past the rear of the demo before making a U-turn and running the gauntlet on the front side, before taking the exit over Kutuzovsky Bridge.
I had little idea of the depths of the crisis, though had it gone wrong it would have been a US missile that killed me. I also remember the subsequent visit by Castro to Moscow, with all lamposts festooned with Cuban flags, and massive military processions and a cavalcade for him and Khruschev.
“Now the Cuban Missile Crisis was a genuine threat to everyone. Reading now, it was a closer run thing than most people worried about.”
I remember the Cuban Missile Crisis. It was scary just because we didn’t know what was going to happen.
It turns out the Russians were much more responsible about not taking chances with their nuclear weapons than they are generally given credit for.
It was Cuba’s Fidel Castro who was the one who wanted to start a nuclear war. Castro lobbied the Russians to use nukes on the U.S., and the Russians thought he was deranged and told him no.
Read the book: One Hell of a Gamble”, to get insights into the Cuban Missile Crisis.
It’s a good thing the Russians retained control of the nuclear weapons in Cuba, otherwise, had Castro had his way, there would have been a nuclear war at that time, initiated by Fidel Castro.
Now, how bloodthirsty and deranged do you have to be to actively promote the killing of millions of innocent people? And over what? That’s Fidel Castro.
The hole in the ozone layer scare was another one
The Cuban missile crisis was before my time, but the cold was was still in full swing when I was a child. No more “duck and cover”, but the dread of a nuclear holocaust was very real. I can vividly remember a discussion my first grade teacher had with her class one day about the cold war. Well, as much as a child would be able to understand. And I raised my hand and asked her, point blank – “Why do the Russians want to kill us?” Being that I don’t really remember her answer, apparently it wasn’t very comforting to me in the end.
Then, later, in my early teens, there were tv movies like “The Day After”. I didn’t watch it all the way thru – I think I was too scared to. But hearing classmates talk about it was enough. And then there were scads of post nuke apocalyptic movies in the mid and late 80’s, many of which I did watch because I was into science fiction. Movies that depicted the horrors of life after a nuclear war, like the Mad Max movies. While those movies were enjoyable, there was still that dark undercurrent of nuclear war’s aftermath that ran thru them.
Luckily in the end of the 80’s the Berlin Wall fell and that lead to a major cooling of the cold war for a time.
A mildly warming climate is not even on the same scale as the threat of nuclear war; that’s like being terrified of a mouse when there is a tiger stalking you….
And luckily when I was a kid, the weather forecast was just that – a forecast. No hyperbole, no exaggerations, no fancy scary sounding terms like “bomb cyclone”. But I doubt that would have scared me, as I was always fascinated with the weather. I can remember turning off the tv and settling on a comfortable chair in front of my bedroom window (well, not too close, as my mom warned me) to watch a thunderstorm roll in. Even as a teenager in a diary I always noted the day’s weather, before I got onto more important stuff.
But no, I have no idea what today’s kids would do if exposed to something really scary. And back in my days, yes, there were some kids who did drugs and drank, but I doubt it was because of the fear of nuclear Armageddon.
Maybe this WUWT should be more widely read. Does anyone have ideas how that could be achieved? Especially amongst the young?
My experience is, it’s a one at a time process. Tell them what you think/know and why. If they are under 16 I ask for parent’s consent before saying more. A copy of “Climate at a Glance for Teachers and Students” might help, also Jo Nova’s “Skeptic’s Handbook”, page 3 on. I carry one of Rud Istvan’s single-page summaries on my phone as a text file.
I have various CO2 v Temperature, food production and climate cause death charts as images on my phone. A picture paints a thousand words. I always say don’t taake my word, follow the Royal Society’s advice and find out for yourself. Whether they do or not is up to them.
I’ve silenced a number of CAGW suckers by showing them this famous photo.
Love that photo and its implications! 🙂
Tell the children every person on the planet lives with climate change every year of their life and few people even notice.
Then tell then if they believe everything their teachers and other government employees tell them, then they will never be smart,
Ironically, they’re right…it will be a darker harder place for the kids. Despite the internet, their voice is being suppressed, their freedoms are being curtailed, and their rights and abilities to fight for those freedoms is being stripped away. They just don’t realize it yet.
Energy will be more expensive and unreliable, as will transportation. And all of it because of the reaction to so called climate change.
I have much anxiety for my kids’ future.
H. L. Mencken is as relevant as he ever was. So is George Orwell.
I’d say “Because of the Internet”
“I have much anxiety for my kids’ future.”
Yes, it has to be difficult to be a kid nowadays. So many things flying at you from all directions. So many things to try to sort out. And who to believe?
Good parenting is most important in this time of uncertainty.
Bad parenting. None of my kids believe in that shi… crap.
Given the pressure, from media, “teachers” and usual pressure to conform (and also “social networks”), that number isn’t really high.
At least not unexpected.
‘Research shows most youth are “extremely worried” about it, leading to a phenomenon called climate anxiety.’
If they want to worry about something, they should worry about the rapid expansion of government power that truly threatens their future well being.
The issue we have with government overreach is children and the institutions with vested interests in state power, are teaching children to see total control by authorities as ‘a good thing’.
Children see lack of freedom as normal and positive.
The battle we need to win is teacher training.
At their age I was extremely worried I was never going to get a girlfriend.
These days it’s supposed to be a worry for the girls…
Climate disaster porn is as much the same sort of thing as the 1980’s Recovered Memory/Satanic Panic phenomenon. An incredible amount of concern was made about something that was junk “science”.
But real people went to prison on “evidence” that was as testable as dowsing.
I would regard this panic as worse, but Lysenko had the same sort of political support, and ruthlessness. I hope this ends better.
I’m glad to say I’m apart of the 41%. I am concerned, however, that the other 59 percent may be a lost cause. This generation is already plagued by mental illness, nicotine, and social media addictions, so this doesn’t help at all.
““We see that a lot of young people are saying, I think my life will be worse than my parents’ lives,”
They most certainly will be if ESG and the climate scammers manage to destroy energy supply, farming, transport, food supply etc etc… , and to bring back rancid racism.
Everything done in the name of “climate” and ESG is destined/designed to destroy the future prosperity of western nations, and the poor little students are too nil-educated to realise that fact.
““We see that a lot of young people are saying, I think my life will be worse than my parents’ lives,”
With Nut Zero, that makes sense.
I not convinced that the modern generation of teenagers and young adults can tell the future any better than the previous generations.
There are three issues here. In no particular order dug abuse, climate dishonesty and really crappy schools. We need to attack the climate dishonesty with everything we have every chance we get. The school system needs a serious shakeup, it is a disgrace. The drug problem is probably the toughest. I don’t have answers here just questions. I wouldn’t use the climate crisis as an excuse for drug abuse, you could completely remove the climate crisis and you would still have the drug abuse problem. Prohibition isn’t going to work it never does. Completely legalizing drugs comes with it’s own problems and is bound to give us more problems. Legalizing drugs and regulating them is probably what will happen. Things that are regulated will be taxed, will be manufactured in a proper facility by trained employees rather than in some back woods trailer buy a bunch of rednecks or some ghetto dive by a bunch of hoodlums. There will be no perfect answer but no matter what we do there will always be a certain percent of our population who will ruin their lives abusing drugs legal or illegal. It’s a tough one.
The problem with legalisation is some drugs trigger socially unacceptable behaviours, like Ice and PCP / Angel Dust.
Democratic, tolerant Singapore doesn’t have a big drug problem, because they execute any dealers they catch. Something to think about.
Yes I was going to say most drugs but opted not to. Singapore is an example of prohibition, I don’t know how it is working there but here in the US prohibition of alcohol didn’t work out very well. I’m more interested in a solution that would work best where I live.
I have been involved in mitigating risk though sound engineering my entire working life.
Climate/weather is a big factor in engineering risk. The historical climate records in Australia are not particularly long but were what we based the designs on. Some of the risks are now well coded and established in engineering standards. All based on the historical experience.
Some of the places I was involved in at an early stage have now operated for 50 years and such criteria as wind loadings, storm surge, wave height, rainfall intensity, maximum and minimum temperature etc are unchanged.
So I have learnt that climate is important but was never addressed in any of my formal education. It was probably different for civil engineers and geologists.
The point is that history remains the best evidence to guide engineering decisions. There is no evidence that climate is shifting the goal posts in any measurable way.
There were recent reports on need for trauma counselling in Lismore where floods recently inundated houses. That has occurred maybe 6 times in my memory. But people still choose to live on the flood plain. The Brisbane River is another waterway prone to flooding. People still choose to live on low river banks despite the risk – something I experienced as a pre-schooler and the back yard in Quay Street being under water.
Bangkok has been sinking for ever. Complete inundation is likely a matter of time unless ice begins to accumulate on northern land masses before it gets too hard to keep water out.
We watch a program called “grand designs” that covers residential houses built in various locations. Some of the housing sites around Aukland in NZ would challenge a mountain goat and yet people are building houses on these steep slopes with residential scale footings or piling. Land slip has to be a a serious risk and recent evidence indicates the codes were not commensurate with the risk.
Likewise the recent Turkey earthquake was not exceptional. Erzin demonstrates that good engineering can counter the risk of damage from natural perils.
Rather than trying to frighting children into religious zealotry, we should be educating them on the risks and sensible risk mitigation measures. No matter the attractive price – do not buy a house on a flood plain unless you have a design that caters for the potential water level with a good margin. Don’t assume a tree offers any protection in a storm. When your hair is standing up as a thunderstorm approaches, it is not sensible to stay outside.
If you treat climate change as an engineering problem suddenly it’s not so apocalyptic and scary anymore…
“Don’t assume a tree offers any protection in a storm.”
I had a nice old gum tree 3m from the house.
Storm.. lightning .. kaboom, tree got hit.
Branches fell on the back veranda, denting the roof and destroying the guttering
Surge took out basically every electronic device in the house, computer, screens, amplifiers, TV etc etc all had to be replaced.
So no, a tree does not offer protection in a storm…. just the contrary !
The level of stupid may be too high to overcome. And even at this level of stupid, high schools are removing AP and honors courses as if some religious leader told them that knowledge was a sin.
As bad as the 20-something have become, what’s coming up the pipeline is far, far worse.
If you complain that our children are turning into TikTok zombies who can’t handle basic arithmetic or read anything more complicated than a road sign, they’ll call you a white supremacist or worse.
If you point out that the climate is always changing and anyone concerned about sea level rise can easily walk faster than the sea, rising about a millimeter per year, can eat them, they’ll say “poor people don’t have the luxury of moving,” as if poverty somehow glues their feet together and leaves them on the beach.
The damage done to the younger generations will take decades to address. And by then, these kids will be running the show.
If this ridiculous climate fear is not a call for home schooling, I don’t know what is
It is. But how many parents can put that together? The left views home schooling as a greater threat than Nazis and Trump and Fox News all put together. Parents who go that route know they’ll be branded, perhaps even canceled entirely.
This obviously happens periodically. What’s concerning is that the schools, particularly the universities, have always been on our side. We see it in literature like Brave New World, 1984, Fahrenheit 451. But now, with “equity” and “white supremacy” chanted throughout the halls of higher education, the schools are leading the charge.
Uneducated, indoctrinated, unable to maintain or grasp the concepts civilization has been building for centuries, society is headed toward an abyss. Strange as it may seem, energy uncertainty may be the least of our problems as intellectualism continues to be purged.
I wish there were one of Ayn Rand’s utopias out there. Sadly, that’s just a fantasy. The best candidates are still currently dominated by the left.
Quote:”First, the threshold step is redefining drugs as primarily a health and social issue rather than primarily a law enforcement issue. Second, drug treatment has to be expanded and improved until it reaches the same level as other health services. Third, all penalties for personal drug use and possession have to be scrapped.
How is it possible for somebody supposedly so close to this issue get it all soooo wrong?
(Simple. He’s actually a climate scientist)
The only scintilla of goodness in all his verbal diarrhoea is the bit highlighted
Example: Vietnam War
The US soldiers there were kids, children. As per the song, 9..9,,9,,9,,NINETEEN – their average age.
While on active service in the jungles, those kids used truly immense amounts of Hard Drugs, Cocaine typically and 80%+ would get themselves miles high Every Single Day.
(Not dissimilar to workers in the business/financial sector of London these days)
They did that amount of drug to get them through the stress. They were completely ‘lost’ and ill-equipped, in every way, in the jungle-warfare scenario and up against an enemy for which it was their home turf. Effectively they were sitting ducks. 10,000 miles from home and up against an enemy they couldn’t even see even from 10 yards away and too late.
And they each and every one of them knew it.
<pause for a second to imagine that>
OK: So taking aboard the thinking of that muppet Wodak, you would imagine that when those soldiers came home, they would bring an epic drug problem home with them.
Remember, over 80% of them were doing, daily, enough Cocaine/Heroin/Opiate to sink a battleship. By Wodak’s logic. how could they possibly not and thus be in need of all the various treatments he’s proposing.
But as soon as they landed ashore in the US, they simply stopped.
Follow up studies showed that even years later, the rate of drug abuse among those soldiers was no different from folks who’d never even heard of Vietnam, let alone been there.
See the problem?
The Climate War is another Vietnam – orchestrated by an equally brain-dead leadership, fixated on high ideals, good intentions, thoughts of the children(????) and once they set upon any given path, become trapped on that path by magical thinking and paralysed by their own self-importance.
See the parallels with Ukraine? The gradual gradual escalation, the drip drip dripping of petrol onto a bonfire that, even if it doesn’t completely blow up, is gonna hurt immense numbers of people for no good reason other than Good Intentions, Foolish Pride and Unintended Consequences.
You wanna be careful, because Magical Thinking is exactly what Chronic Dependant Drunks do – and no-one EVER won any argument with a drunk. You tell ’em Boris.
The Wise Person, the Knowledgable Person, simply walks away.
iow: Wise People do not feed trolls. Or zombies = same things really.
Get and read Gabor Mate’s book: In The Realm Of Hungry Ghosts
It is an epic and rather chilling exploration of self – while it is very readable/listenable and there is nothing complicated about it.
The Drug Issue is very very simple.
But first you have to learn to be honest. With yourself.
edit to PS
Add in National Jingoism – as so perfectly demonstrated (re: Ukraine) daily by the BBC
“Remember, over 80% of them were doing, daily, enough Cocaine/Heroin/Opiate to sink a battleship.”
I suspect that’s a big exagerated. I didn’t go there but I know many who did and all of them took no drugs while there. Of course, on college campuses, probably 50% were doing drugs, mostly pot.
The best anti-Vietnam song in this audiophile’s opinion, was by Michigan’s Bob Seger.
Not a video and song you will want to hear often — the message is disturbing
The Bob Seger System – “2+2=?” With Vietnam Footage – YouTube
“The US soldiers there were kids, children. As per the song, 9..9,,9,,9,,NINETEEN – their average age.
While on active service in the jungles, those kids used truly immense amounts of Hard Drugs, Cocaine typically and 80%+ would get themselves miles high Every Single Day.”
And you know this how?
I was over in Vietnam when I was 19 years old and never saw any cocaine, nor did I know anyone there who used cocaine.
You are completely off-base.
Buy this book and learn something about the Vietnam war:
Stolen Valor : How the Vietnam Generation Was Robbed of Its Heroes and Its History
I was not there, but served under many that were.
There was certainly a drug and alcohol problem in the post Vietnam draft Army. But not close to that described above.
The ending of the draft and increase in standards under Reagan resulted in the bad apples being forced out through the QMP (Qualitative Management Program). I know that first hand because I was in the service throughout the transition.
We were tested regularly for drugs. A positive field test was sent for UA by spectral analysis. If that was positive an E-5 or lower got an article 15. Any rank higher would be court martialed and get a less than honorable discharge.
A DUI or other arrest for drunkenness was an automatic letter of reprimand from a General Officer in your 201 file and forced participation in a program where Anabuse was ordered taken.
I served in SE Asia in the Navy during Viet Nam. Your description of the drug
use was nothing that I saw or experienced. I was personally treated poorly
back in the country on a number occasions. I also was also treated very well
by a good number of people. I’ve been told that had I not been involved
in that war I would be a much different person today, but I would say that would
apply to most war veterans. One of my friends in high school’s older brother was severely wounded and came home after spending two years in the hospital. He took a large
amount of pain meds daily just to survive. I grew up around those situations
before my draft number was drawn. There is nothing similar between Viet Nam vets
and climate change worry..
I read up to 24 short articles on climate and energy every morning so I must be extremely worried too. And I’m old. I’m worried that climate scaremongering and Nut Zero is being used to promote totalitarian governments. Even worse, adding CO2 to the atmosphere and global warming are good news that I want to continue. Fighting good news climate change is insane.
I’m also extremely worried that people who lived with mild harmless global warming from 1975 to 2015 can be convinced to believe everything their government says about the future climate. And they believe false prediction of doom after 42 consecutive years of wrong CAGW predictions since the 1979 Charney Report. Such useful idiots could be convinced of anything, such as the false claim that MAGA Republicans are fascists, insurrectionists and racists, so should be punished and prosecuted.
The 59% number is very interesting
Last year a poll of scientists conducted by libertarians, who I believe to be neutral, found that 59% of scientists believed in CAGW.
CAGW has never happened
Predictions of CAGW have been wrong since 1979
But 59% of scientists are believers.
And that is 59 percentage points too many.
Honest Climate Science and Energy
Cut off the internet from these worriers for 6 months, take them out of school for six months and get them doing things out of doors for six months.
I bet you their anxieties will disappear when those that prime them are taken out of their lives….
I don’t believe their numbers. I’m sure the indoctrination has had an effect but just don’t believe they have been that effective in instilling a mental illness on our youth.
they started this in the mid 70s in aus after the 60s uni teachers got into our schools and the govvy jobs and its been all downhill at greater speed since then. at least then they targeted us in early highschool, now? they start in kindy,
now want funding for mental health problems the GOVT allowed promoted and paid for causing!!
If I were extremely worried about climate change, I would first look into the problem to understand what was going on.
The problem is many young people don’t look into the problem, they just take someone else’s word to characterize the problem.
If they looked into the science of the issue, they would find that there is no basis for their fears. CO2 is a benign gas, essential for life on Earth, and nobody has proven differently even after decades of trying. That is the reality young people are not shown by climate alarmists. So, young people should look for themselves.
The only thing young people have to fear are delusional/power hungry politicians, who use the unwarranted fear of CO2 to scare young people and everyone else into complying with their authoritarian demands.
Young people, do your homework. It will ease your mind. Your CO2 fears are not based on CO2 facts.
I do not believe these supposed poll results are accurate. I suspect most young people are mildly concerned or indifferent.
Consider these Pink Floyd lyrics from 1979:
“We don’t need no education
We don’t need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teacher, leave them kids alone”
Climate change indoctrination is the new thing in an old cycle.
So, teachers, leave the kids alone about the climate! Stop the blaming and the guilt-by-association messaging.
Yes, it does.
That’s how we got in the situtation we are in now: Lies, lies and more lies, given to us mainly by the Leftwing Mass Media, the most dangerous organization in our lives, because their lies are believed by too many people, and those people take actions detrimental to all of us (like voting for Joe Biden), based on those lies.
Extremely worried for how many seconds in a day with targeted online advertising?
Online propaganda is the new tech that fits well with climate scare tactics.
TikTok Isn’t the Only China-Backed App the White House Is Worried About (yahoo.com)
Yes, that is something to think about. Over 25,000 apps use the software that reports back to TikTok.
The Chicoms are insidious.
Oh, how far the Lancet has fallen, publishing such poppycock!
First off, this so-called “study” was funded by AVAAZ, a climate activist NGO.
Read the article. Written to sound all “sciency,” the key questions are 1. who made up the study, 2. what were the survey questions, and 3. to whom were these questions posed?
First, the source of the survey questions: “A survey was developed by 11 international consultants with expertise in climate change emotions, clinical and environmental psychology, psychotherapy, psychiatry, human rights law, child and adolescent mental health, and young people with lived experience of climate anxiety. The group met weekly for 2 months (February to March, 2021), reviewing existing climate anxiety measures and evidence for the psychological impact on young people.”
Next, the questions: Climate, climate, climate, climate, climate, climate, …. Nothing about other life issues or concerns that ordinarily dominate most adolescents and young adults, such as jobs, dating, marriage, sex, where to live, what car to buy, eating, lifestyle, paying the bills, … Everyday life concerns for the vast majority have nothing to do with “climate”, and it seldom enters most people’s minds, except brief snippets of conversation generally ending with something like, “What a crock. Who really believes this bollocks?”
Finally, those who were surveyed: Largely a self-selected bunch of narcissists who eagerly join some social media group that demands participation to get “points.”
CONCLUSION: A 97% invalid pseudo-study created and paid for by climate change lunatics designed to reach predetermined conclusions. Let’s not waste our time, except to call out the stupidity with derision whenever possible, including the medical journal and media who repeat this garbage uncritically.
“But is there any actual evidence of a connection between rich country industrial activity and natural disasters or even bad weather in poor countries? The answer is, simply, no. Indeed, for those willing to slog through the IPCC full Fifth Assessment Report, the admission of lack of connection is actually there, although buried deep in the multi-hundred-page Report and couched in bureaucratic gobbledegook. A scientist named Roger Pielke, Jr. compiled many of the statements from the section of the Report known as Working Group I, Chapter 2, for purposes of testimony given before the Senate; he also posted many of them in a blog post (http://rogerpielkejr.blogspot.com/2013/10/coverage-of-extreme-events-in-ipcc-ar5.html):
· “There is limited evidence of changes in extremes associated with other climate variables since the mid-20th century”
· “Current datasets indicate no significant observed trends in global tropical cyclone frequency over the past century … No robust trends in annual numbers of tropical storms, hurricanes and major hurricanes counts have been identified over the past 100 years in the North Atlantic basin”
· “In summary, there continues to be a lack of evidence and thus low confidence regarding the sign of trend in the magnitude and/or frequency of floods on a global scale”
· “In summary, there is low confidence in observed trends in small-scale severe weather phenomena such as hail and thunderstorms because of historical data inhomogeneities and inadequacies in monitoring systems”
· “In summary, the current assessment concludes that there is not enough evidence at present to suggest more than low confidence in a global-scale observed trend in drought or dryness (lack of rainfall) since the middle of the 20th century due to lack of direct observations, geographical inconsistencies in the trends, and dependencies of inferred trends on the index choice. Based on updated studies, AR4 conclusions regarding global increasing trends in drought since the 1970s were probably overstated. However, it is likely that the frequency and intensity of drought has increased in the Mediterranean and West Africa and decreased in central North America and north-west Australia since 1950”
· “In summary, confidence in large scale changes in the intensity of extreme extratropical cyclones since 1900 is low.”
but not nearly as worried about where their smartphone charger might be….
Standard liberal tendentious drivel.
If the sociologists asking the questions have a clue as to what issues concern teens they didn’t include them in their survey:
affording their first car; moving out of their parents’ house; getting or keeping a job; abuse by someone at work; their next date; avoiding bullies; real environmental issues (like pollution of air and water); species depradation; drugs; pimples; nuclear war … on and on. There are dozens of issues the surveyors could have listed… but didn’t because they were were looking to elevate this one.
My guess is that a fair survey would put global warming somewhere at the bottom of a list of ten, just like it is for adults.
I remember my child telling me from school that the U.S. caused Imperial Japan to attack us because of the oil and other supply embargo in southeast Asia and that we could have negotiated an end to war without using nuclear weapons. It only reinforces the need for detail and context to fight propaganda and other creative history and educational rewrites. Lack of attention span feeds into overreach agendas along with good supplies of drugs.