From NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT
By Paul Homewood
h/t Dave Ward
Maybe Greta would like to come to Sheffield and campaign against our wind farms which also frighten the animals and disrupt age-old traditions!!
Greta Thunberg has been taking part in a five-day protest blocking the entrance to Norway’s energy ministry to protest against wind turbines.
Miss Thunberg was specifically demonstrating against wind turbines built on land traditionally used by indigenous Sami reindeer herders.
“Indigenous rights, human rights, must go hand-in-hand with climate protection and climate action. That can’t happen at the expense of some people. Then it is not climate justice,” she said while sitting outside the ministry’s main entrance with other demonstrators.
Norway’s supreme court in 2021 ruled that two wind farms built in central Norway violated Sami rights under international conventions, but the turbines remain in operation more than 16 months later.
Reindeer herders in the Nordic country say the sight and sound of the giant wind power machinery frighten their animals and disrupt age-old traditions.
Ms Thunberg and a dozen other Sami demonstrators have occupied the ministry’s reception area since Thursday. Police forcibly removed them at around 1.30am on Monday and detained them before releasing them.
They returned to the ministry at around 6am.
Cannot blame the Reindeer herders. I don’t want the damn things anywhere near me, either.
Take a drive through the U.S. Heartland. Dekalb Ag is now growing wind turbines in Illinois Indiana and Iowa. The old joke was that Chicago was a place were they grew houses out until the corn started. Now the wind turbines have created a boundary.
Not to worry, if reindeer become extinct, good old Santa can get himself an electric flying sleigh, very efficient, with no reindeer methane emitted, not to mention the solid and liquid rejects raining down around the globe.
Note to Greta: It’s complicated.
Hmmm. Let’s see. Hey,Greta. You know what would solve this problem? Fossil fuel.
Actually, I suspect that windmills really change the climate because they literally stop the wind. That means less wind and less moisture somewhere else….
If only very locally and by an infinitesimal amount.
Now, if someone here could provide us with some report and data on that, I am sure that it would make anyone here very happy…
the butterfly effect?
Certainly the eagle effect.
No idea what impact windmills have here, but it reminds me of an old war story when they had huge radio transmitters blasting out their high power RF to get the signal as far as possible. Someone near by cottoned onto the fact that they could build a big large aerial at the correct length for a full wave receiver and extract a reasonable amount of power out the air to power their home. Only problem was it then created an expanding gap in the transmission pattern down-field and people were not getting the transmissions. That gap was easily monitored and tracked back to the people sucking the signal power.
You never “create” energy, has to come from somewhere and get converted.
It was “free” energy till they got caught!
A full wave antenna for the kind of frequencies they used in WWII would have been several miles long.
The other problem is even if your antenna were within a few feet of the transmitting antenna, you would only be able to get a few hundred milliWatts out of it.
If your antenna were several miles from the transmitting antenna, the gap created would only be the width of the wire you used in your antenna, and would disappear within a few meters further out.
Probably about 80 meters or shorter. Ones running in the mile range are used to communicate with submarines at about 20 to 30kz. Subs get away with it because they can drag their antenna behind them. There were only two stations broadcasting at that frequency and I think they are down to one now.
How I originally heard it was a rancher had a fence line below and parallel with a high tension power line for a few miles. So he strung a wire along the fence on insulators to generate power from the alternating magnetic field.
Mythbusters “busted” it by hoisting a really sloppy coil of wire up near a high power line and got nothing. Of course they’d get nothing the way they tried it.
Wind is natural. It is air moving. Moving things have kinetic energy.
Windmills are removing natural kinetic energy from “Nature”.
Man builds windmills.
Man is removing kinetic energy from NATURE!!!!
OH! THE HUMANITY!!!!!
Moving air is coming from the climate. Stopping that air with mills is causing climate change. Simple arithmetic, not so?
If you think it is infinitesimal please show me the data?
Man’s CO2 is infinitesimal and they panic.
Why not panic about this?
(Sorry. I forgot a sarc tag.)
Everything is natural
“This for health food fiends, the natural fabrics gang, and all those green-head environmental hustlers who stomp around in the “natural”: Your key word is meaningless. Everything is natural. Everything in the universe is a part of nature. Polyester, pesticides, oil slicks and whoopie cushions. Nature is not just trees and flowers. It’s everything. Human beings are part of nature. And if a human being invents something, that’s part of nature too. Like whoopie cushions.”
George Carlin, from his great 1994 book Brain Droppings
I think they better be called “mineral fuels”, at least coal, oil and gas. There little to nothing “fossil” to them.
That’s an idea.
The Left changes names and definitions all the time.
Here in the US we used to have “Welfare”. A handout. People started to object to that so they renamed it “Entitlements”.
1972’s Title IX had to do with eliminating discrimination based on “sex”. In 1972 there were two, male and female. Now there are, what?, 57? 79? 97?
Let’s rename “fossil” fuel as, “Organic Energy Storage”? “Millennial Storage Batteries”? “Natural Energy Recycling”? “The Original Solar Panels”?
Suggestions?
and now food stamps are known as SNAP Benefits. And you don’t get stamps, you get a debit card.
(Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program)
https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.1Ugd8Pf2LK-dzAAvEqxNzwAAAA&pid=Api
To
Otherwise known as ‘free stuff’
Hydrocarbon fuels
Fossil Fools:
— Jumpin’ Joe Bidet
— John “why the long face?” Kerry
— Al “the climate blimp” Gore
The Three Stooges of Climate Science.
With Great “thundering” Thunberg as Shemp
I think “natural mineral fuel deposits” would be ideal.
This article on insect population decline reads like who’s who list of wind power expansion.
The elephant in the room is #Windmills.
“…losses of pollinators have been identified in Great Britain, butterflies have experienced declines in numbers of between 30 and 50% across Europe, and a 76% reduction in the biomass of flying insect in Germany.”
https://mobile.twitter.com/aaronshem/status/1577119726760697856
They did some research in Germany – wondering why windmill performance started falling from the minute they were first switched on
I think they attached reflective patches to the blades so they could watch them as they were spinning and used a laser or something to record how ‘less reflective’ it became over time.
Then took the patch down and counted what was sticking to it.
The result they found was that your typical onshore German windmill was ‘harvesting’ One Tonne of insect biomass annually
(We all know the stuff, it attaches to car windscreens)
Basically just the aerodynamic drag of that gunk explained the decline in power output
PS to ‘interesting’
Would that insect mess, or the impacts of same, explain the 50kg per year of plastic bits and flakes of resin/paint/varnish the average turbine is shedding.
I took it to be the loss of the surface finish/shine/gloss that destroyed the aerodynamics – hence why output always falls to about 50% of ‘new’ and thus why they’re scrapped at age ~15 years
Windmills seem to have a predetermined half-life.
Actually. I’ve noticed a significant reduction in insect strikes on the car over then last 10 or so years. Thought it might be pesticides, but, windmills, hmm.
Same car? Different cars have different airflow patterns.
All cars but main one is a boxy Jimny. I live in the countryside amid sheep and cattle farms and significantly less insects to wipe off. Actually, just watched Clarkson’s Farm season 1 episode 4 and he makes exactly the same point.
I notice it too and I don’t miss them one bit!
come on guys . . .
Darwin ? survival of the fittest ? obviously bugs that stick to windscreens dont get to multiply, the bugs that dont get stuck continue to multiply. simples
Hmmm… I hope you have taken into account the effect of climate change on insect populations.
And you just gave me an idea: to scrap all that winshield muck and sell it to the nearby insect green restaurant … pure, natural, wild insects, not those created in despicable conditions in insect farms that do not respect insect rights.
If you are ever at the Smithsonian Air Museum look up at the Voyager aircraft that flew around the world unrefueled. When we shipped it to the museum from Mojave they were horrified when we suggested cleaning it first. So there it is with bugs on the windshield and wings and all.
In my view, this is just the beginning of their attempt to dismantle all power sources to destroy the economy. It was predictable from the beginning. First go after coal fired power plants for emissions, then for CO2 emissions, then go after NG and nuclear. Then once you have destroyed the conventional sources of power and replaced them with wind and solar, go after all the evil wind turbines and solar panels for their contribution to pollution of the environment.
This is the same playbook that was used during the start of WWII. Appeasement will never satisfy them.
Appeasement just encourages them and guarantees the next round of insane demands.
Danegeld didn’t work either
Doc, they don’t want to destroy the economy they want to direct it. This is all about control by the Faceless Cultural Elite Ruling Classes Globally. They have a vision where they reduce the Global population by 60%, then control 80% of the remaining population to service them and their entourage. Reserving reliable energy sources for their consumption and needs only. It is the Progressive vision and to achieve it they need to dupe the chillun, which is happening right under our noses, to skip along to their Pied Piper tune until it is time to turn the lights out.
And Bill, when they are done, what will be left to direct?
“An evil enemy will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes” Sun Tzu
Here in Wokachusetts, the climatistas are opposing new solar “farms” because there is no where to put them but in forests- and they want to lock up all the forests- not just protecting them from destruction- but prevent them from being managed to produce wood products- despite the state having a massive housing shortage- they prefer to import wood from Oregon, Washington, Canada, Scandinavia and until the Ukraine war, from Russia. They ignorantly think covering every building in the state will be sufficient for net zero. It wouldn’t come close.
Given it’s distance from the equator, one would have to be pretty stupid to expect much power from solar anywhere in New England. That goes double for during the winter. Between the snow, the clouds and the low sun angle, there is almost no solar power to be captured.
Who knows? Maybe Greta Thunberg will finally grasp that fossil fuels and nuclear are the two energy sources with the LEAST IMPACTS on nature and on people!!
I realize that’s quite a stretch for Greta. But maybe more and more folks will wake up and see this point more clearly.
I wonder if she’s ever had a real job. When she gets one she may change her tune on many subjects, like we all do.
Good point. Especially when you have others depending on you for food, shelter, clothes, and transportation.
And yet Greta doesn’t understand that windmills generally disrupt the age-old tradition of supplying reliable, affordable electricity.
Students Wildly Indignant about Nearly Everything. SWINE. Credit Andy Capp I believe.
I think Al Capp of L’ll Abner.
Indeed. Thanks
http://natedsanders.com/lil-abner-comic-strip-from-10-april-1966—-h-lot22716.aspx
Greta Thunberg is your typical leftist, forever angry, forever at war with whatever currently exists. There is no way to make her happy, and anyone who tries is on a fool’s errand.
There’s a famous quote I can’t find right now, about liberals wanting to change everything and conservatives wanting to lock in the current changes. It’s either out of date or reversed or never was true or only applies to classic liberals, because from what I see, collectivists want to lock in the status quo and prevent all future progress.
She needs a boyfriend and something else to occupy her time
Who’s willing to take one for the team?
How much hazardous duty pay?
Considering her famous quote, that is total BS:
“I am an introvert; privately I am very shy, and I don’t speak unless I have to.’ Greta Thunburg
I might have a chance if I changed my last name from Greene to Green, like many people spell it anyway.
This whole thing highlights a very important point that the SJW crowd really need to understand but can’t. The woke mob that these climate hobgoblin makers have created don’t have any idea what they want. All they know is that they are against everything. They are dissatisfied and angry and nothing will appease them aside from the next protest regardless of the issue.
Once the Faceless Cultural Elite Ruling Class have secured complete control over the worlds citizenry, they will send out the self destruct command and all the Greta’s of the world will stop dead in their tracks, like someone pulled a plug
Protesting is what you do when you have no ideas of your own.
10 yard penalty for Charles showing a gruesome photo of Greta.”thundering” Thunberg, the green dreamer of climate delusions. Not only can she see CO2, unlike other humans, but if you look away from her photo for a moment, her head will spin 360 degrees, and be back to staring you down when you look again. This can only be captured with a slow motion video. She is the Medusa of Climate Change.
Greta needs to save the reindeer because she still believes in Santa Claus.
Yep , flying reindeer and windmills is a bad combination.
Perhaps she can glue herself to the blade of a wind turbine – obviously only to be done during a light breeze.
Does Greta realize that the Samis EAT the reindeer?
Let’s see the whole package with the transmission lines, substations, and access roads.
I wonder if St. Greta has given any thought as to how Norway is supposed to provide power to its people? Given their latitude, solar is out of the question.
Perhaps she knows that in Northern Norway they have very cheap hydro power. Even in winter.
Clearly, hydro is insufficient and cannot be increased regardless of the percentage it is currently providing. Otherwise no new production facilities, wind turbines included, would be needed. So the question remains, what form of energy production does she propose for the Sami, who do, indeed, use electricity?
Norway : Gross Electricity Production 2020 : %
Ugly and powerful Green Devils have planted many evil wind machines on the once sacred hills above our traditional Columbia River fishing grounds. The sacred salmon spirit now wanders in the currents. We beg the Mighty Goddess Thunderberg to smite down these terrible machines and send more Budweiser.
If climate change is the existential threat we are constantly being told it is, the wishes of a few deer herders are irrelevant.
Which is it, Greta, windmills or people?
I don’t believe Greta could tell you as she kept cutting school classes to protest climate change.
She missed the biology class on ruminant digestive systems and methane production.
Perhaps Greta should spend a few months living with the reindeer herders (or any one who lives off the grid in a primitive lifestyle, like the Amish here in the US), assuming they would have her. Then she might realize how great fossil fuels really are….
But even some Amish use propane, and some reindeer herders use snow mobiles. Nope, she needs to live amongst people who use NO fossil fuels!
Good for Greta, she isn’t protesting windmills for exactly the same reason I would but if she can get rid of them more power to her.
The Green blight is an alien encroachment on the native environment and ecology.
So, why is it ok for the Sami to not like them so they must go, but we are supposed to just roll over for the good of all.
There is either a crisis or not.
They may as well take them down, it’s pointless virtue signaling to have them as hydro is their main electricity and oil is the main industry.
Who do they think they are fooling?
Progressives of course.
I’m proud of you, 72 comments so far and not one
“HOW DARE SHE!!”
Oh damn.. now I’ve said it..
yet she has no problem with thousands of windmills polluting the undersea world of whales and other underwater creatures with their far reaching low frequency intrusion into the acoustic world of whales
Kerry makes Saint Greta look intelligent.