Climate Fact Check: January 2023 Edition

From JunkScience.com

Steve Milloy

Seven pieces of climate propaganda from January 2023 exposed and debunked. The PDF version (needed to click through to the links) is here.

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strativarius
February 10, 2023 6:32 am

You can debunk to your heart’s content, but the zombie AGW narrative will remain standing.

Feelings [and lived experience] now count for more than objective facts and truths. And this is reinforced through politics, education and just about every other public institution – especially cultural and historical ones.

Gas Stoves and…

Utter nonsense.  

In the 50s, 60s and into the 70s we had coal fires, paraffin heaters, leaded petrol, lead water pipes, industrial pollution and real atmospheric pollution worth worrying about. We then had clean air acts and later legislation.

And yet they claim, laughably, that today its never been worse than it is now.

The media warp has to be broken somehow. Davos man should be earmarked for extinction.

Scissor
Reply to  strativarius
February 10, 2023 6:59 am

To think, we just learned that Lucky Charms and Froot Loops are healthy for you.

Reply to  strativarius
February 10, 2023 7:02 am

1. More rain is not a problem.
2. Warmer weather is not a problem.
3. More arable land is not a problem.
4. Longer growing seasons is not a problem.
5. CO2 greening of the earth is not a problem.
6. There isn’t any Climate Crisis.

In the 50s, 60s and into the 70s we had Global Cooling for God’s sake!

I have a 1944 DOB and it’s difficult to get past the 180° shift to Global Warming that occurred 40 years ago. The first five points above are equally difficult to deal with.



Reply to  Steve Case
February 10, 2023 9:06 am

What would be the opposite of Climate Crisis? A term that sounds awesome- something we can all say is a wonderful thing to be happening. A term that will catch on in the MSM. Climate Enhancement? hmmm….

Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
February 10, 2023 9:25 am

Modern Thermal Optimum as in the Holocene Thermal optimum

Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
February 10, 2023 9:56 am

Climate Optimization
Climate Enhancemen

Hivemind
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
February 10, 2023 7:29 pm

Global Milding.

Reply to  strativarius
February 10, 2023 7:40 am

‘Feelings [and lived experience] now count for more than objective facts and truths.’

It’s called ‘post-modernism’, and it’s rise in academia was predicated on the Left’s need to avoid acknowledging that their Marxist ideology had failed despite the murder of millions of people in a brutal effort to foist it upon society.

Reply to  strativarius
February 10, 2023 7:51 am

Got to start somewhere.

Reply to  strativarius
February 10, 2023 9:15 am

In one of my very first jobs, I whally impressed the boss by solving a baffling electrical issue, by pointing out the wall is painted with leaded paint, causing a ground loop with erratic resistance. As a child, I got a few whacks on the bottom for writing on walls, a few for damaging the paint layer with rough play indoors, but I cannot for the life of me remember licking them for any reason. Who cared; did you know you can pass a copper coin as a nickel coin, by rubbing it with mercury? With bare hands… Thank the gods I had not the criminal mind to do it more than once as a lark…and I survived, proving good family morals can keep you safe even in the face of unrecognised demons.
When I explained to my wife about lead paint and the whole effort to eradicate it, she looked at me, smiled, and said: “Yes, the lead would have blocked their signals, no?”
It’s fun, being married to a like mind…

Reply to  cilo
February 10, 2023 9:31 am

Mad as a hatter came from people infusing felt with mercury

The fumes breathed in caused the madness

Reply to  Redge
February 10, 2023 10:06 pm

As I heard it explained once, it wasn’t the “fumes” because there really aren’t any emitted from metallic mercury at room temperature.What the mercury poisoning came from was licking the brushes used to a point to apply the mercury accurately and to conserve it.

barryjo
Reply to  cilo
February 13, 2023 6:26 pm

In junior high chemistry, we had a flask of mercury on the bench. We quickly learned that handling said mercury also rendered our class rings a bright silver color. That cost money to remedy. Lesson learned.

February 10, 2023 7:32 am

About the 7th item – Exxon knew nothing special about the climate response to CO2, relating to claims beginning to gain traction in the late ’70’s through the ’80’s.

But in early 2009, #NASA_Knew that the atmosphere and ocean circulations are best understood as heat engine responses to absorbed energy, and that a runaway climate outcome from emissions of greenhouse gases is prevented by how radiative cooling works. That is why I wrote this essay.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/05/16/wuwt-contest-runner-up-professional-nasa-knew-better-nasa_knew/

February 10, 2023 8:19 am

I am generally on board with this rational fact checking. Always good however to be precise and accurate in the rebuttals. Regarding asthma, it is often caused by exposures to allergens, however there are many other causes including exercise, cold air, stress, non-allergenic chemical triggers etc. As someone who experienced a single episode of exercise induced asthma while water-skiing on a cold lake in cold air I can attest to my good fortune that it is not a habitually repeating event. None of this is intended to imply that my natural gas range has caused asthma in me or any of my family. I wouldn’t change it for the world.

John Hultquist
Reply to  Andy Pattullo
February 10, 2023 9:06 am

There are likely differences among cause or causes of asthma and the triggers of episodes.
Into the mid-1940s, my family heated with a coal stove. By 1950, the house had a gas stove in the middle for heat, and the kitchen stove used gas. Two adults and 4 children and no asthma. Further, I can’t recall any of the neighbors or the children having asthma.
None of the families had much money either. Perhaps money causes asthma. 😒

Crispin in Val Quentin
Reply to  John Hultquist
February 10, 2023 9:29 am

You may have been exposed to farm animals in your childhood. This is a major indicator for the absence of asthma. It has been proposed for decades that over-cleanliness of the early environment predisposes one to over-reaction to stimuli.

There is a theory that being first born v.s. later is also meaningful, though I feel the supporting data is thin. We know well what aggravates asthma (and stress-induced asthma) but we do not know the root cause.

Gas stoves are patently not a cause of asthma, nor a proven stimulus, or it would long ago have shown up in the Global Burden of Disease (GBD) data. By all accounts, switching from solid fuels burned badly to any gas fuel (propane, natural, butane, blended propane+butane or biogas) improves the health of cooks and small nearby children. That is why there is a Clean Cooking Fund (CCF) and an organisation called ESMAP (both managed by the World Bank) trying to get LDC governments to include large scale clean(er) cooking projects going.

Such programs have been implemented in China (1981) involving 100m stoves, and since then small projects of significance in dozens of countries. At present, through the CCF, large scale projects are going, planned or mooted in a dozen developing countries with gas conversion always included. In Indonesia 70% of the population uses LPG for cooking.

It is downright humorous to see the USA talking about getting rid of gas cooking while simultaneously promoting it, at scale, in developing countries. BTW, the USA is the major producer and exporter of LPG (liquid petroleum gas, which means propane or a blend of propane and butane anywhere from 80-20% to 20-80%).

February 11, 2023 7:32 am

What’s up with having apparent links turning out to be non-links by saying a lot of “text” in pictures?

Dave O.
February 11, 2023 7:43 am

Just read in a local paper an AP article titled “In Spain, storks’ choose landfills over migration”. Basically saying that storks are staying in Spain instead of migrating and that this behavior will increase because of climate change. One sentence in the article said: “Researchers at Zurich Technical University have predicted that the average temperature in the Spanish capital’s coldest month will increase by 37.5 degrees Fahrenheit by 2050”. That seems a little exaggerated even for the “end of the world” climate change people. “story tip”

old cocky
Reply to  Dave O.
February 11, 2023 12:20 pm

The old “convert 3 degrees C to F” trick.

Missed it by that much.

February 11, 2023 7:47 am

As for “not a single record was set on 2022 for high or low temperature, rainfall, snowfall, hail, etc.: This is true, but only for nationwide alltime records in the US. Most years won’t have any of these broken. Although Canada had a new nationwide alltime high temperature record set in 2021, and the previous record was set in 1903. Nationwide alltime records for specific kinds of weather don’t get broken in any one nation in most years.

February 12, 2023 7:12 am

Regarding the claim (posted in a manner that not copyable / pasteable, so I had to type it by hand) of “Asthma is a genetic condition that can only be triggered by an allergern – like pollen, mold, dust, pet dander etc. So it is biologically impossible for gas stoves to be responsible for childhood asthma.”: This is only half true; and is an overstatement as much as the recent metastudy that’s a hatchet job on gas stoves.
I went to DuckDuckGo and typed in asthma nitrogen dioxide and found, with selecting time ranges from 1/1/1998 to various later times: The modern movement to bash gas stoves got started in 2020. Also: before 2016 and even before 2005, there was substantial evidence presented that nitrogen dioxide including indoor nitrogen dioxide is a factor in a significant number of asthma cases. Back in those times, studies blamed indoor nitrogen dioxide on coming in from outdoors (such as where local outdoor nitrogen dioxide from motor vehicle traffic is high) and improper flue ventillation of gas appliances that normally have flues, along with gas stoves. I also saw that lung irritation in general is a factor for asthma, not limited to allergens even though allergens are a major factor for triggering asthma attacks.