Who To Believe? The BBC Or Your Lyin’ Eyes?


By Paul Homewood

Gaslighting is defined as manipulating someone so as to make them question their own reality:

German police have denied being “extras for Greta Thunberg” after false claims that her detainment at a protest in western Germany was staged.

A viral post falsely claimed the climate activist being held by police was “all set up for the cameras”.

Ms Thunberg and other activists were seeking to stop the abandoned village of Lützerath from being demolished for the expansion of a coal mine.

The video of her being removed by police has gained millions of views.

“We would never give ourselves to make such recordings,” a spokesperson for local police told the BBC, denying allegations that Ms Thunberg’s detainment was fake.

But it is important that the police enable reporting and guarantee the protection of media workers, they added.

The viral video shows the climate campaigner flanked by police officers on either side.

Meanwhile a few photographers can be seen snapping photos and moving around her, as Ms Thunberg smiles.

Several other police officers who were also standing nearby appear to be waiting with her before walking her away from the scene.

Some online have jumped onto these moments of officers and Ms Thunberg waiting around, to falsely claim that it is part of a staged photo opportunity.

However the interior ministry of the western state of North Rhine-Westphalia told the BBC that the police officers and Ms Thunberg were waiting for logistical reasons.


Who do you believe? The BBC or your own lying eyes?

This is the video the BBC actually showed in their original story the day before:


For some reason they left out all of the bits that they did not want you to see:

Instead of gaslighting, why does not the BBC actually publish the full video, and let people decide for themselves?

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Tom Halla
January 20, 2023 2:21 pm

Looks like a photo op to me.

Paul S
January 20, 2023 2:21 pm

They think we are idiots. Perhaps it is projection……

January 20, 2023 2:25 pm

Looks like a winter jacket made of synthetic fibers from petroleum products.

Joe Gordon
Reply to  BobM
January 20, 2023 9:12 pm

It is hand-stitched from the recycled covers from her monthly stock portfolio report – all in companies dedicated to the preservation of private jets and eradication of aircraft that might be contaminated by the hoi polloi.

January 20, 2023 2:28 pm

Wow. Either planet saving is deeply rooted or possibly the police were paid for their role or even paid actors. Whatever the case it is shame such an awful person gets so much global visibility.

Philip CM
January 20, 2023 2:30 pm

Thunberg certainly is quite the little attention who__.

Last edited 2 months ago by Philip CM
Reply to  Philip CM
January 20, 2023 3:05 pm


if not, is her dad still her pi__.

(hopefully, in a few years it will be a whoosis)

Ron Long
January 20, 2023 2:32 pm

Congratulations, British! Looks like the Beeb has attained full Clinton News Network status. What a brave new world.

Rud Istvan
January 20, 2023 2:37 pm

There is much about this that got un/mis reported. The coal mine is metallurgical coal, not steam coal. The villagers agreed to be bought out and moved years ago. It was empty until occupied by protesters. The Greta thing was a staged photo op, which the BBC got caught red handed misrepresenting by selective editing.

January 20, 2023 2:37 pm

Who To Believe? The BBC Or Your Lyin’ Eyes?
Well the BBC of course !!
My eyes may tell me the data I’m reading shows is natural variation, but the BBC says we are in a catastrophe … so I must be wrong !

if you scroll to the bottom of most BBC pages, you find …
Why you can trust the BBC
which tells us they have …
“journalism that is accurate, impartial, independent and fair.”
So that proves it.

Got to go; Nurse tells me I must take some more stupid pills.

Last edited 2 months ago by 1saveenergy
Reply to  1saveenergy
January 20, 2023 3:48 pm

I think the “stupid medicine is in the water and the pills are placebos.

January 20, 2023 2:44 pm

Heaven had English policemen, French cooks and German engineers
Hell is English cooks , French Engineers and German police. Or it used to be the case
So where is the jackboot when you need it?

Rud Istvan
Reply to  alastairgray29yahoocom
January 20, 2023 3:47 pm

Oldie but goodie.

Leo Smith
Reply to  alastairgray29yahoocom
January 20, 2023 10:27 pm

Heaven is British engineers, French cooks and German sausages ÷)

May Contain Traces of Seafood
Reply to  alastairgray29yahoocom
January 21, 2023 3:27 am

German engineering has an attention to detail.

If the detail actually needs to be there in the first place is an open question.

They are technically brilliant.


“We do not have this problem in Germany”

(they were very nice people though)

Tom Johnson
Reply to  May Contain Traces of Seafood
January 21, 2023 4:43 am

It works best to understand the four models of governance in Europe:
The British model: Everything is permitted, except that which is prohibited.
The German Model: Everything is prohibited, except that which is permitted.
The Russian Model: Everything is prohibited, including that which is permitted.
The Italian Model: Everything is permitted, including that which is prohibited.

Reply to  Tom Johnson
January 21, 2023 10:01 am

Seems to me England has been adopting the German or Russian model lately.

Reply to  Tom Johnson
January 21, 2023 1:42 pm

Italy, the place to be on a saturday night.

Reply to  alastairgray29yahoocom
January 21, 2023 5:37 am

i have seen some extraordinary events in my life

First, the best golfer in the world was Black and Asian — Tiger Woods

Then the best rapper in the world was White: Eminem of suburban Michigan.

Now the Germans are trying to SAVE the world from carbon pollution, and the English and French are on their side.

I wonder what will be next?

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Lord Smaug
January 20, 2023 2:48 pm

Looks like a staged photo opp to me.

Last edited 2 months ago by Lord Smaug
Mark Kaiser
January 20, 2023 3:02 pm

From the BBC article:

A viral post falsely claimed the climate activist being held by police was “all set up for the cameras”.

Then later:

Meanwhile a few photographers can be seen snapping photos and moving around her, as Ms Thunberg smiles.

So they contradicted themselves. So to cover themselves they add an “explanation”

However the interior ministry of the western state of North Rhine-Westphalia told the BBC that the police officers and Ms Thunberg were waiting for logistical reasons.

Logistical reasons. hahahahaha Journalism: 0, Creative writing: 1

Reply to  Mark Kaiser
January 20, 2023 11:08 pm

Journalism: 0, Creative writing: 1

Ha, ha! Joke’s on you. Recent news tells us they’ve been using chatbots to write the articles, and interns to write the retractions…

January 20, 2023 3:06 pm

Par for the course with these lefty media flunkies masquerading as real reporters and journos-
They’re all on the take but the truth will out eventually.

It doesnot add up
January 20, 2023 3:14 pm
It doesnot add up
Reply to  It doesnot add up
January 20, 2023 3:25 pm

This interview of her walking through Davos is also worth a view


Reply to  It doesnot add up
January 20, 2023 4:55 pm

I see windmills all over the place. Now that I call destruction of the environment.

Reply to  Robertvd
January 20, 2023 11:12 pm

I see windmills…

Yeah, isn’t this the very same coal mine that “went Green” with all them windmills?

January 20, 2023 3:19 pm

Stella!……I mean Greta!…..how did you get to Germany? Private jet?

January 20, 2023 3:39 pm

It must be fun traveling the world to get arrested.

January 20, 2023 3:40 pm

The truth is what they present to you, and what you believe.
She is a child playing a child’s part, and a very bad actor.

January 20, 2023 3:46 pm

It sure seems like Greta and the German government are in cahoots to fool us. And they think it’s funny we’re being duped into giving up our freedoms… Evil.

Tom in Florida
January 20, 2023 3:48 pm

So you don’t get cuffed in Germany when you are arrested?

Reply to  Tom in Florida
January 21, 2023 2:59 am

There are lots of places where you don’t always get “cuffed” when you are arrested. In GB you will only get handcuffed if you resist.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Oldseadog
January 21, 2023 4:21 am

She wasn’t arrested in GB. So the question remains about Germany. Is it procedure to cuff someone arrested or not? Do yo have info on that?

michael hart
January 20, 2023 4:29 pm

Almost off-topic, but once again, the Germans with their fashionable black uniforms are knocking their British equivalents into a cocked hat.

Edit: Reviewing some of Greta’s sermons, the uniform might suit her quite well.

Last edited 2 months ago by michael hart
January 20, 2023 4:37 pm

Definitely those lying eyes;
but her smile is a thin disguise, thought by now you’d realise;
and the rest
Ain’t no way the BBC’s…
going to have their contract renewed with the Govt, although Sunak might be more soft on than Boris was / might be: if he’s restored after bi elections.

Reply to  Joy
January 20, 2023 8:20 pm

Boris was OK when being honest, but Carrie should be banned!

Reply to  mikelowe2013
January 20, 2023 10:39 pm

“Boris was OK when being honest,”

Please give exact time & date when he was being honest; it needs to be recorded !!

Reply to  1saveenergy
January 20, 2023 11:17 pm

Gimme ten of his utterances, I bet you I will find at least three where he told his god’s honest truth, but in a way meant to be understood differently.
The political alphabet is not comprehensible without a dictionary…

Reply to  mikelowe2013
January 21, 2023 5:44 am

Yes, I’m fond of Boris; imagine he’s a bit of a softie in ways that Carrie definitely got around him. However I trust that Boris is honest and if he becomes aware of something fishy with the climage modelling he won’t be afraid to talk about it.
Especially now everyone is an armchair modeller since 2020

January 20, 2023 5:00 pm

Just like when the Climate Jugend and Green Shirts are attacking a piece of art in a museum. All staged.

Peta of Newark
January 20, 2023 5:55 pm

To ‘get’ the joke she’s playing, understand that Monty Python was actually made and broadcast by the BBC

See how times have changed – that even the BBC doesn’t now understand their own joke from 50 something years ago.

THAT is the shit we’re in. That our ‘GSOH’ has gone. Our minds have died – climate is merely symptomatic.
Brandon really is the brightest spark in the fire, making the Buffoonerous BoJo look like an Einstein

But it’s not a joke. It could hardly be any more serious or worrying.
The extinction is ongoing and we are it.

So: How would folks/cops from the US have handled Greta in that situation, a mentally disordered, single, young female.

Like they did Floyd? Wailing sirens. Dozens of cars. Dazzling flashing lights. Pointed loaded guns. Handcuffs, Tazers. Deliberate misunderstanding & projection. Ten onto one extreme physical, to the point of murderous, violence.
How many bullets were picked out of Bonnie & Clyde’s bodies?

While the US-led and funded NATO imagines they are ‘The World’s Police and Peace Keepers’

She is soooooo brave. Greta walked into the fire, jumped into a cess-pit and came out unscathed and smelling of roses.

Because: The German cops were the perfect gentle-(in every sense)-men.
What could have become very very ugly, hence why the press/cameras were there watching/waiting for an orgy meets bloodbath – they totally and perfectly defused it, smiling, laughing and holding hands.

and how many commentators here say they did it all wrong and was staged?

Reply to  Peta of Newark
January 20, 2023 11:23 pm

Interesting take. They tried to stage martyrdom, and the police were too civilised to take the bait?
But wait, are they not now about to allow 3rd world immigrants into the force? Or was that England?
Let’s see Gretha’s face when she encounters the more pragmatic policing commonly found in places where the fully-employed live in fenced communities…

January 20, 2023 8:44 pm

Oh, good, the fact-checker says it’s false. I can go back to reading headlines now for 5 minutes during breakfast and rest easy knowing how informed I am…

Regardless of who’s doing it, no “fact-check” label is required. If someone is actually doing journalism, part and parcel of the publishing of the whole article should be fact-checking.

I don’t need some little sticker on it to tell me that, and if something is false, but you’re referencing it, I should discover that from other information you include…

Last edited 2 months ago by VantheMan88
January 20, 2023 9:48 pm

10 yard penalty for a photo of Thunberg and an additional 10 yard penalty for talking about the female trained parrot of the Climate Howlers.

She deserves no attention. Just like Al Gore and John Kerry. Together they are The Three Stooges of Climate Alarmism. And Joe Biden is Shemp.

Leo Smith
January 20, 2023 10:25 pm

The last thing anyone in power wants, is people deciding for themselves.

January 20, 2023 10:56 pm

“When what you hear and what you see don’t match, trust your eyes.” Dale Renton – Author

Rod Evans
January 20, 2023 11:18 pm

Never underestimate the BBCs ability to make a contrived presentation. We might be a little surprised their prize winning voice over expert David tumbling walrus Attenborough, was not on scene to talk in hushed tones, as Greta gets carried away to some far away limousine parked out of sight.

January 20, 2023 11:20 pm

We must control the misinformation and disinformation to keep you all safe-

January 21, 2023 1:36 am

Pretty clear evidence of manipulation here…..

January 21, 2023 1:56 am

The BBC report is by their Climate disinformation reporter. So it must be false.

January 21, 2023 2:33 am

“The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.” – George Orwell, 1984

May Contain Traces of Seafood
January 21, 2023 3:38 am

Is it just me or is Saint Scowl of the Land That Hasn’t Actually Warmed Since Before She Was Born starting to look a bit chubby?

Has she been eating more than her fair share of bugs?

January 21, 2023 3:46 am
January 21, 2023 3:55 am

Gretas the distraction go browse Zerohedge for the recent skulduggery at Davos/Wef minions, making her idiocy look tame

Joao Martins
January 21, 2023 6:16 am

Clownish as clowns can be!…

January 21, 2023 7:00 am

Anyone who believes, watches or listens to the BBC are fools. The Beeb is no longer there to impartially inform, educate and entertain, but to pander to the lefties and wokeristas. Stop paying the TV tax, at least then you are not supporting their nonsense.

January 21, 2023 7:28 am

Instead of gaslighting, why does not the BBC actually publish the full video, and let people decide for themselves?


Thomas Finegan
January 21, 2023 7:59 am

Can you post the link to the Greta Thunberg legal defense fund?
(Just kidding)

January 21, 2023 8:15 am

George Santayana wrote that if you forget how badly you screwed it up last time, you will screw it up worse next time. Or something like that.

The last time people believed a “Greta”, it didn’t end well.


January 21, 2023 8:25 am

For someone with congenital issues, especially issues where unplanned distasteful actions would normally seriously unhinge those affected.

Greta is smiling, laughing, apparently wearing some makeup, looking like the proverbial Cheshire cat.

Then there is the police action itself.
Either atrociously planned and atrociously executed or this was the plan.To only remove one person.To not have immediate police vehicles to transport prisoners. Especially when transporting one prisoner is normally a ride in the back of a regular police car.For police to isolate/insulate suspects awaiting official interviews or contain/restrain multiple suspects for transport to await court hearings.
Greta isn’t showing any fear, or even concern. Greta knew her arrest agents, handling wardens, photographers and possibly practiced the entire soap opera..

No follow-up pictures where Greta and her promising greater levels of violence friends are jailed, arraigned, bailed out.

A staged scene with her family, friends and as someone else suggests, “paid actors” comes to mind.

Last edited 2 months ago by ATheoK
Bruce Cobb
January 21, 2023 10:14 am

Maybe we could just call it “semi-staged”. I mean, the police were probably thinking, “if only all arrests could go this calmly and smoothly”. So, they were probably fine with a bit of stagery. Good optics all around.

old cocky
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
January 21, 2023 3:00 pm

Definitely. The police would have been between a rock and a hard place. Detain her and provide publicity, or ignore her and be accused of lack of impartiality.

January 22, 2023 8:49 am

Apologies for OT and if posted before.
BBC reporting a gritting lorry in Scotland called “Gritter Thunberg”.
I wonder if they got the irony?

January 22, 2023 11:56 am

In other BBC news, seals are throwing themselves off cliffs in protest of Greta’s arrest.

Gunga Din
January 22, 2023 1:22 pm

Staged or not, Virtue Signaling.
She got a headline. That all the little “Heinz Beans” eater wanted.
(Kerry married the heir to H.J. Heinz. He didn’t earn his money. She didn’t earn theirs.)

January 24, 2023 12:42 pm

How is it that an autistic teenager is now at the helm of the climate crusade? is she a modern day Joan of Arc, or Dark Angel sent by Gia to prepare us for the worst? Perhaps, the empty suits previously referred to as algore and johnkerry were simply replaced behind closed doors in DAVOS by a wild eyed little girl who has at least put bit of commitment behind all the chicken little rhetoric?

What I am waiting for now is the little prince to run out in the street and point out that the “Emperor” has no clothes. The cycle will be complete and we can expect the only possible conclusion begins to play out as anarchy takes hold. It is the only possible outcome, if these idiots actually get their way.

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