Cumbria Coal Mine Gets Go-Ahead

From NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT

By Paul Homewood

A victory for common sense!

Michael Gove has approved the first new UK coal mine in 30 years despite concern about its climate impacts among Conservative MPs and experts.

The proposed mine in Cumbria would dig up coking coal for steel production in the UK and across the world.

Critics say the mine would undermine climate targets and demand for coking coal is declining.

But supporters claim the mine, near Whitehaven, will create jobs and reduce the need to import coal.

The fate of the West Cumbria Mining project had been hanging in the balance for two years after the local county council initially approved the mine in 2020.

The project’s approval was suspended in early 2021, ahead of the COP26 climate conference in Glasgow, after the government’s climate change adviser said it would increase carbon emissions.

The government’s advisory Climate Change Committee (UKCCC) pointed out that 85% of the coal produced by the mine would be exported.

Lord Deben, chairman of the CCC, described the proposal as “absolutely indefensible” and said its approval would damage the UK’s leadership on climate change.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-63892381

While this is a much less biased piece than the series of outright anti-mine propaganda articles written by Harrabin last year, it is still woefully one sided.

Although short pro-mine comments are published from West Cumbria Mining, the local council and Northern Tories, the vast majority of the article is devoted to anti-mine ones from:

Lord Deben

Friends of the Earth

“Steel experts”

Ed Miliband

Green Party

“Senior Tories, such as Sharma and Kwarteng

Labour Party

South Lakes Action on Climate Change

I still don’t understand why tiny extremists groups such as FOE should get any airtime at all on the BBC.

Amongst the arguments against is that there will be little demand coking coal by the 2030s. I’m not sure what this has to do with the likes of Greenpeace, as it is a purely commercial matter for the company to weigh up.

Deben seems to think there is something wrong with exporting coal, but he is evidently happy that Russia exports coal to us, which inevitably leads to greater emissions, something he claims to care about.

And there is the usual nonsense about creating green jobs for the poor saps in Whitehaven who are desperate for well paid jobs at the mine. As we are finding to our cost, these green jobs are just a mirage.

I gather there is still a possibility of another legal challenge, which is the last thing Whitehaven needs. But hopefully we can now get on with a project which will be good for Cumbria and the country.

By the way, I really have to comment on this ludicrous piece in the pathetic Independent:

https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/cumbria-coal-mine-decision-steel-environment-brexit-b2240025.html

If they think that is “Backwards Britain”, what on earth do they call dismantling a wind farm to dig for coal in their beloved EU?

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Allan MacRae
December 9, 2022 2:11 am

CAGW (Global Warming, Climate Crisis, etc.) is a false scare – the prattling of imbeciles.
 
THE GREAT RESET: PLANNING THE THEFT OF CANADA? October 2, 2022
https://fcpp.org/2022/10/02/the-great-reset-planning-the-theft-of-canada/
“He explained, expecting me to agree, that Canada’s present economic model was seriously flawed and had to be replaced. I bit my tongue. He continued, people expected too much, unregulated consumerism was unsustainable and Canadians would have to learn to make do with less. The government would have to take more control over people’s lives and enforce an austere lifestyle. The present high economic expectations are the enemy and we would have to have a strong global government that would redistribute the wealth to poorer nations. Fossil fuels would be phased out on an accelerated timetable and air travel would be limited to need.”
 
NO EVIDENCE OF CLIMATE CRISIS June 23, 2022
https://www.worldcommercereview.com/html/macrae-no-evidence-of-a-climate-crisis.html
“To conclude, the alleged fossil-fuel-caused Global Warming Crisis does not exist in reality. The only real, measurable impact of increasing atmospheric CO2 concentrations is improved crop yields – which are hugely beneficial.”  

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Bill Toland
December 9, 2022 2:12 am

Lord Deben calls the decision absolutely indefensible. This is the man with gigantic conflicts of interest. I regard his position in the Climate Change Committee as absolutely indefensible.

https://order-order.com/2019/02/14/government-whitewashing-lord-debens-600000-green-scandal/

MCourtney
Reply to  Bill Toland
December 9, 2022 2:20 am

Remember, he once fed a burger to his niece as a PR stunt during the Mad Cow panic.
He’ll risk anything for a personal advantage. A reckless and dishonest man.

strativarius
Reply to  MCourtney
December 9, 2022 2:24 am

It was his daughter

MCourtney
Reply to  strativarius
December 9, 2022 2:50 am

Googled and you are right. My apologies.
In my defence, my mind recoils at the mere thought of the odious conniver.

strativarius
Reply to  MCourtney
December 9, 2022 3:05 am

I wouldn’t put anything past the poisoned dwarf

michael hart
Reply to  MCourtney
December 10, 2022 1:45 pm

I recall his daughters grew up rather attractive. It doesn’t seem to have done them any harm. But yes, not a very nice man.

Greytide
Reply to  MCourtney
December 9, 2022 3:30 am

This is the BSE that the scientists (?97%) said couldn’t pass to humans. Settled science I suppose.

Oldseadog
December 9, 2022 2:13 am

Great news for the Solway and the North Lakes, and for the port of Workington which is where I joined my first ship, an iron ore carrier, as a Cadet, in 1959. At that time Workington imported iron ore and used local coal to make the best quality steel railway lines in the world, and when they poured steel during the night you could see the glow from all along the Scottish south coast.

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Duker
Reply to  Oldseadog
December 9, 2022 2:31 pm

Yes. This new coal mine pit head will be on the site of a former large chemical plant outside Whitehaven. Long gone now like the blast furnaces and rolling mills at Workington

michael hart
Reply to  Oldseadog
December 10, 2022 1:53 pm

Seconded, Oldseadog. I haven’t been to Whitehaven for many years since the 1980’s but I recall thinking Cleator Moor as one of the most depressing and economically deprived places in semi-rural England.

For such a small country there are still many places that are underpopulated, IMO.
You could take Hong Kong and drop it near Carlisle and no one in London would ever notice.

Chasmsteed
December 9, 2022 2:34 am

“the government’s climate change adviser said it would increase carbon emissions.”

An all encompassing excuse to ban anything.

I would remind said adviser that he is himself a carbon emitter just by breathing as are new additions to the human race.

Where will such an anti-humanist agenda based on idiot science lead us.

The West is committing slow suicide – the devastation will soon be apparent even to the most devout climate zealot and the great ignorati of the proletariat – tar and feathers, pitchforks and firebrands at the ready,

Depending on how badly this winter pans out – revolution is nigh.

strativarius
Reply to  Chasmsteed
December 9, 2022 2:36 am

“he is himself a carbon emitter”

~11 kg/day – like most adults

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Peta of Newark
Reply to  strativarius
December 9, 2022 2:49 am

Are you my twin – you fouled up the decimal point as badly as I often do. Sometimes I wonder where they all go

The number is 2.3lbs CO2 per day ~ 1.1kg

strativarius
Reply to  Peta of Newark
December 9, 2022 3:08 am

No, I’m in error

That’s was, er, the total air exchanged. My bad.

Paul Johnson
Reply to  Chasmsteed
December 10, 2022 8:48 pm

If “the government’s climate change advisor” says that backing out imported coal, especially from less-environmentally conscience producers, will “increase carbon emissions”, they need to rethink that absurd idea.

Rod Evans
December 9, 2022 3:00 am

In today’s Daily Telegraph a formally right leaning newspaper, their Economics advisor and journalist(sic) Ambrose Pritchard Evans weighs in with an article denying the need for the new coal mine. His logic is we should not do it because we can import the coal cheaper.
It is that kind of convenient lunacy that has led to Europe being in a domestic fuel crisis. It’s AEP’s logic i.e. gas is cheap from Russia, so shut down all those coal plants and don’t extract your own domestic supplies and for good measure shut down all those CO2 zero nuclear power stations too.
I do not know what passes for rational economic thinking these days, but one look at the devastation in Ukraine should help to reset the minds of people like Ambrose Pritchard Evans.
NB
I am shadow banned form commenting on the DT despite paying a subscription to do so.
Note that is shadow banned not openly banned. How sinister is that?

DavsS
Reply to  Rod Evans
December 9, 2022 4:17 am

AEP has swallowed every bit of green-think and eco-lunacy hook, line and sinker. Don’t expect rational economic thinking from him.

BigCarbonPrint
Reply to  Rod Evans
December 9, 2022 7:12 am

It’s always fun to read the comments under AEP’s articles promoting green lunacy. He gets totally shredded by the commenters who know he’s an idiot.

Hysteria
Reply to  Rod Evans
December 10, 2022 11:12 am

AEP is way off the mark on this one!

strativarius
December 9, 2022 3:03 am

Lord Deben, chairman of the CCC, described the proposal as “absolutely indefensible” 

Which seems almost measured judging by the reaction in the ‘Daily Climate Crisis’ (Grauniad)

New Cumbria coalmine ‘like opening a Betamax factory
Rising temperatures causing distress to foetuses, study reveals
Have no doubt: opening a coalmine in Cumbria is a climate crime against humanity
Could Cumbria coalmine be stopped despite government green light?

And from the former party of the working man:
Labour says it would stop Cumbria coalmine from opening
Ed Miliband vows party will seek to prevent ‘climate-destroying’ plan and if elected would deliver green jobs

I recently entertained the idea that we might get fracking going until the globalists ousted the PM. I should have known better. Consequently, I’m not considering this mine anything like a done deal. Sunak is an accomplished U turn artist.

People like Deben, Lucas et al are quite determined to deindustrialise us (h/t Ehrlich and Holdren)

bobclose
Reply to  strativarius
December 9, 2022 4:35 am

These climate alarmist fools are all deluded by their own virtue signaling, driving blindfold into the unknown future of net Zero nonsense. The less they know of the science the more certain they are of the right track to take us to climate utopia. Very sad really, that all our leaders are so lacking in basic knowledge about the relationship between energy costs and general prosperity for society. The basic need for reliable fossil fuel and nuclear energy for modern industrialization and our relatively pleasant lifestyles should be obvious to all.
Why are we throwing away all the benefits of the modern world over this climate crap?
Can anyone honestly say they have experienced any alarming climate episode in their lives that can be related to modern gentle warming? Don’t you realize the benefits of warming and CO2 rise for plants and crops? Where is the supposed crisis happening anyway, who has been actually affected by sea level rise?

If the UK does not wake up from this self-induced nightmare shortly, its Brexit troubles will seem like kindergarden games. It’s time for a proper look at the economics of climate mitigation, decent cost benefit analysis of current policies, and a less rushed more managed approach to any climate issues that are actually affecting the country. Forget the supposed global issues- there is no empirical evidence for dangerous climate change now or in the past, except for the Ice Ages which we cannot control anyway. Have some faith in human technology to see us through whatever changes happen in the future that we can’t currently predict or forecast accurately. To deindustrialize is to commit economic suicide, why do these politicians want that? Do they really represent what the people want? I doubt it.

strativarius
Reply to  bobclose
December 9, 2022 4:57 am

If the UK does not wake up from this self-induced nightmare shortly,”

Unless civil unrest breaks out, this is the direction of travel.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  bobclose
December 9, 2022 5:19 am

“Very sad really, that all our leaders are so lacking in basic knowledge”

It’s more than sad, it’s scary.

auto
Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 9, 2022 11:59 am

Is it a bug, or a feature?

Auto.
It is worth asking that question rather a lot. Unhappily.

Hysteria
Reply to  bobclose
December 10, 2022 11:13 am

I keep saying it – NZ ain’t gonna happen because it can’t –

Physics, laws of thermodynamics etc….

The policy makers will be the last to catch-on…..

DavsS
December 9, 2022 4:32 am

Gove recognised the education ‘blob’ when education minister but spectacularly failed to see the much more substantial and far-reaching green blob when he moved on to be environment minster. So I’m a bit surprised at this decision. They will have to move fast – if the eco-loons manage to delay things then it’ll be odds on that the Labour morons who are likely to take over from the Tory morons in government two years hence will shut it down. Eco-lunacy runs deep in our established political class.

Energywise
December 9, 2022 4:43 am

Great news – the green blob bed wetters are up in arms, so it’s a win for common sense, national security and British industry

Although this Mine will access coking coal for steel production, the wider energy message is clear and concise – fossil fuels are natures fuels and should be used on our transition to a nuclear future

The UKs electricity generation mix this morning was 56% gas and 3% coal, coal generation would be higher if CON26 Sharma hadn’t demolished the power stations now greatly needed

observa
Reply to  Energywise
December 9, 2022 6:11 am

And every night in Oz when the sun goes down on the NEM grid if you click on the fuel mix tab you’ll inevitably see fossil fuels running at 70% plus-
https://www.aemo.com.au/Energy-systems/Electricity/National-Electricity-Market-NEM/Data-NEM/Data-Dashboard-NEM
That’s when we’re all supposed to be charging up our EVs for work the next day when we reach net zero. Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious even though the sound of it is something quite atrocious!

BigCarbonPrint
Reply to  Energywise
December 9, 2022 7:17 am

And wind has dropped from 20% this morning to just 11% this afternoon. Why can’t the green loons realise that a power network cannot run efficiently on such intermittency?

Graemethecat
Reply to  BigCarbonPrint
December 9, 2022 8:12 am

I drove along the A39 in North Cornwall this afternoon, and noted that about half of the (hideous) wind turbines were not turning.

Duker
Reply to  Graemethecat
December 9, 2022 2:33 pm

Do they have the brakes on on that half, all the better to push up prices ?

Alan Millar
Reply to  BigCarbonPrint
December 9, 2022 10:36 am

And now(18.30) at 8%.

sturmudgeon
Reply to  Energywise
December 9, 2022 6:00 pm

 the wider energy message is clear and concise” Yes, but few are reading it.

Peta of Newark
December 9, 2022 4:52 am

Re: The picture.
Yes, a beautiful landscape but the natives are a little more pragmatic
Classically asserting that: Yes it’s a lovely view but, the view doesn’t pay the rent

Others are even more pragmatic and hence why you’ll find Lake District hotels that are even pricier than London hotels. And that is saying something.

The picture is however missing the Climate Change Aspect
(btw: What is that yellow patch; please don’t say its caused by Roundup)

The missing bit is what appear, from a distance, to be maggots (Blowfly larvae/grubs) crawling all over the hillsides
i.e. White things with black heads which, up close, are = Sheep

And sheep have turned the Lake District into an effective desert.

A quite surreal/bizarre sort of desert..
it’s not roasting hot
it’s not bone-dry
it’s not made of sand
people like to visit it and some even live there

But it is a desert, the true definition of which of which is, and NOT a list of things that happen there, is that it is a place of low soil organic content

And overgrazing by sheep did that
In case of doubt, ask the citizens of the City of Carlisle about flash flooding – Carlisle being where a bridge was placed across one of the main drains coming out of the Lake District

Carlisle translating as:
Car(r): a swampy place with a few number of trees trying to take hold
Isle: island
Thus, it maybe wasn’t the very best of ideas to build a city on an island in a swamp and then, block the river running through the swamp with humongous piers supporting a bridge.

But they got away with it for a while, until sheep turned the river’s (The Eden) watershed into desert – hence the now commonplace flash flooding

I’m guessing the mountain is an artist’s rendition of Blencathra, sometimes visible ~27 miles to the SW of my old ‘desert in the making

I was a Modern Farmer and did what I was told/taught – I used Ammonium Nitrate to make my desert.

sigh. You do learn some crazy stuff when you delve into Climate Science, some things you maybe come to regret.

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Peta of Newark
December 9, 2022 7:08 am

I can’t help but think…

“Everyone said I was daft to build a castle in a swamp, but I built it anyway. And it sank into the swamp. So I built another one, and it sank into the swamp.So I built a third one, and it burned, then sank into the swamp. Then I built a fourth one, and the fourth one stayed.”

Graham
Reply to  Peta of Newark
December 9, 2022 11:00 am

You are spouting rubbish Peta.
I have visited Carlisle and traveled there to stay with my wife’s relations twice in the last 22 years .
I saw no sign of a desert when we traveled around the Lake District .
I met some farmers and visited them on their farms
Your attack on sheep is incomprehensible and you are making up a lot of bullshi!
We used to have 70 million sheep in New Zealand but now only half that number .
That is not because they turned the land into a desert .
A lot of sheep farms have turned to dairying and cereal cropping and there has been a lot of forestry planted for timber on poorer land .
Most farmers look after their land and do not overgraze but they do apply super phosphate and lime mainly by air on to our hill country .
If phosphate is not applied clover disappears which results in less grass growth so far less sheep can be grazed .
Farmers learnt that 100 years ago in New Zealand and Peta has still not caught on .
You have to replace nutrients as they are removed when sheep and wool is sold off a farm .
Rabbits do far more harm as they multiply so fast and eat every thing that they can reach .
Peta you are obviously an organic grower but 8 billion people on this planet cannot be fed with organic systems .

Duker
Reply to  Graham
December 9, 2022 2:39 pm

Government subsidies made the ‘reported’ stock numbers very high ( 70 mill) , as it was paid per capita. Many say there were ‘phantom sheep’ as its the framers counting them. Soon as the subsidy was withdrawn (1985) the numbers dropped immediately. The longer term decline since was because of the factors you describe
The US by contrast has 5 mill sheep, also subsidised

Graham
Reply to  Duker
December 9, 2022 6:34 pm

You are all BULL Duker . Get your facts right before posting here .
I was farming bulls at this time and most of them were smarter than Duker .
I don’t know were you got that story from but it is incorrect .
THE GOVERNMENT NEVER PAID A SUBSIDY ON THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS ON EACH FARM .
I should know as I was farming sheep and cattle from 1972 untill 2001.
The scheme was called SMP which stands for Supplementary Minimum Prices.
If overseas prices on lamb mutton and beef fell below these minimum prices the government made up the difference with a subsidy .
There were also low interest loans and incentives to develop farm land.

Duker
Reply to  Graham
December 9, 2022 7:03 pm

Facts dont agree with you my friend about the early 1980s

In 1984 nearly 40% of the gross income of New Zealand sheep and beef farmers came from government subsidies. Our farmers were receiving so much assistance that overseas competitors were talking about taking action against our exports. A year later all of these subsidies were gone.

and

 When supplementary minimum prices were introduced, every lamb fetched a price underwritten by the Government, regardless of real demand for the product.

It was a useful lesson in human nature. Farmers were farming phantom sheep. An additional 10 million sheep were found until SMPs were abolished, when they disappeared just as magically. It was also a lesson in conserving resources, and how free markets, property rights and conservation go together.

https://www.act.org.nz/press-releases/thank-god-for-the-farmers-now-bring-back-democracy

Seems like some are out of touch … farmers are like that

Graham
Reply to  Duker
December 9, 2022 11:22 pm

Duker
If you believe every thing that you read in the paper or on the internet ,well there is one born every minute .
David Seymour made up the story of phantom sheep .
The government NEVER paid a subsidy on sheep or cattle on farms .
The subsidy was paid at the slaughter house ( meat works )and it was called the Supplementary Minimum Price .
The government topped up the price as Britain our main market for lamb joined the EU which immediately imposed tariffs on sheep meats to protect European farmers from exports .
I farmed right through this period so I know all about European protectionism and why our government introduced SMP to cushion the blow of the restrictions that were imposed on our lamb exports .
David Seymour was still at school .
SMP also applied to dairy exports but very little was paid out to dairy farmers .

Graham
Reply to  Graham
December 10, 2022 12:16 pm

I got that wrong .
David Seymour did not start school untill 1988 but I think that he is doing a good job.
He just has to check his facts.

observa
December 9, 2022 5:04 am

Backwards Britain? We’ll see that and raise you a whole lot of oxymorons in the Antipodes-
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/intermittent-not-dispatchable-renewable-energy-s-often-not-there-when-you-want-it/ar-AA1556iq
We’re in deep doo doo with these lefty cretins in charge.

Allan MacRae
December 9, 2022 6:19 am

This post seems to have evaporated – maybe I used a banned word.

To understand the big picture, you have to understand that the fearless leaders of the far left have an agenda to turn our world into a fascist dictatorship like China, and any falsehood is encouraged if it advances that agenda – their recent “BIG LIES” are Climate and Covid. Most of humanity are so uneducated and obtuse that they believe this unscientific nonsense and parrot it incessantly.

News flash: “You’ll own nothing , and you’ll feel crappy.”

Reality check: 

CAGW (Global Warming, Climate Crisis, Green Energy, etc.) is a false crisis – the prattling of scoundrels and imbeciles. I told you so 20 years ago.
 
THE GREAT RESET: PLANNING THE THEFT OF CANADA? October 2, 2022
https://fcpp.org/2022/10/02/the-great-reset-planning-the-theft-of-canada/
“He explained, expecting me to agree, that Canada’s present economic model was seriously flawed and had to be replaced. I bit my tongue. He continued, people expected too much, unregulated consumerism was unsustainable and Canadians would have to learn to make do with less. The government would have to take more control over people’s lives and enforce an austere lifestyle. The present high economic expectations are the enemy and we would have to have a strong global government that would redistribute the wealth to poorer nations. Fossil fuels would be phased out on an accelerated timetable and air travel would be limited to need.”
 
NO EVIDENCE OF CLIMATE CRISIS June 23, 2022
https://www.worldcommercereview.com/html/macrae-no-evidence-of-a-climate-crisis.html
“To conclude, the alleged fossil-fuel-caused Global Warming Crisis does not exist in reality. The only real, measurable impact of increasing atmospheric CO2 concentrations is improved crop yields – which are hugely beneficial.”

COVID-19 was another false crisis. I told you so almost three years ago. Neither the Lockdowns or the “Vaccines” were ever justified, provided no benefit and did enormous harm. The cull of the vaxxed is underway and I am urging our government to start emergency treatments of the vaxxed multitudes to prevent slow vaccine injury and death. Peter Halligan, former Chief Scientist of Wales, estimates the current global death toll from the Covid-19 vaxxes at 20 million (range 9-30 million) and I project that will double in a year or two if remedial steps are not taken now. This cull of the gullible will result in a Darwinian improvement in human critical thinking skills, but I still think that outcome would be regrettable.

See CorrectPredictions.ca

Last edited 1 month ago by Allan MacRae
Graemethecat
Reply to  Allan MacRae
December 9, 2022 8:15 am

For the future of the West, you only need to visit China. The CCP’s Social Credit system is all-encompassing and ubiquitous, turning the entire country into an open-air prison.

Allan MacRae
December 9, 2022 6:24 am

This post seems to have evaporated – maybe I used a banned word.
 
To understand the big picture, you have to understand that the fearless leaders of the far left have an agenda to turn our world into a fascist dictatorship like China, and any falsehood is encouraged if it advances that agenda – their recent “BIG LIES” are Climate and Covid. Most of humanity are so uneducated and obtuse that they believe this unscientific nonsense and parrot it incessantly.
 
News flash: “You’ll own nothing , and you’ll feel crappy.”
 
Reality check
 
CAGW (Global Warming, Climate Crisis, Green Energy, etc.) is a false crisis – the prattling of scoundrels and imbeciles. I told you so 20 years ago.
 
THE GREAT RESET: PLANNING THE THEFT OF CANADA? October 2, 2022
https://fcpp.org/2022/10/02/the-great-reset-planning-the-theft-of-canada/
“He explained, expecting me to agree, that Canada’s present economic model was seriously flawed and had to be replaced. I bit my tongue. He continued, people expected too much, unregulated consumerism was unsustainable and Canadians would have to learn to make do with less. The government would have to take more control over people’s lives and enforce an austere lifestyle. The present high economic expectations are the enemy and we would have to have a strong global government that would redistribute the wealth to poorer nations. Fossil fuels would be phased out on an accelerated timetable and air travel would be limited to need.”
 
NO EVIDENCE OF CLIMATE CRISIS June 23, 2022
https://www.worldcommercereview.com/html/macrae-no-evidence-of-a-climate-crisis.html
“To conclude, the alleged fossil-fuel-caused Global Warming Crisis does not exist in reality. The only real, measurable impact of increasing atmospheric CO2 concentrations is improved crop yields – which are hugely beneficial.”
 
COVID-19 was another false crisis. I told you so almost three years ago. Neither the Lockdowns or the “Vaccines” were ever justified, provided no benefit and did enormous harm. The cull of the vaxxed is underway and I am urging our government to start emergency treatments of the vaxxed multitudes to prevent slow vaccine injury and death. Peter Halligan, former Chief Scientist of Wales, estimates the current global death toll from the Covid-19 vaxxes at 20 million (range 9-30 million) and I project that will double in a year or two if remedial steps are not taken now. This cull of the gullible will result in a Darwinian improvement in human critical thinking skills, but I still think that outcome would be regrettable.
 
See CorrectPredictions.ca

Duker
Reply to  Allan MacRae
December 9, 2022 2:42 pm

Falsehoods my friend. vaccines do indeed work. Those countries like Australia with around 90% coverage have shown that.

The US hospital numbers show the unvaccinated are 90% of the very sick/ dead and even there the more infectious variants have far reduced nation wide weekly death numbers

sturmudgeon
Reply to  Duker
December 9, 2022 6:07 pm

To be blunt… you are full of crapo!

Duker
Reply to  sturmudgeon
December 9, 2022 7:05 pm
Allan MacRae
Reply to  Duker
December 10, 2022 3:16 am
Last edited 1 month ago by Allan MacRae
Allan MacRae
Reply to  Duker
December 10, 2022 10:27 am

Duker, you obviously did not read the second part of my paper at CorrectPredictions.ca and are woefully ignorant of Covid-19 reality.
This paper records some of the earliest and most accurate predictions of actual recent events in the Climate and Covid global scams.

The danger of your ignorance is that you, your family and friends might rely upon it and take more of the toxic, ineffective Covid-19 “vaccines”.

I first warned people of the Covid-19 scam on 21Mar2020, almost three years ago.

I never thought it would be this difficult to stop people from killing their own kids.

Allan MacRae
Reply to  Duker
December 9, 2022 7:35 pm

Duker – read the second part of CorrectPredictions.ca

It’s not even a debate any more. Do NOT vaxx your kids.

Allan MacRae
Reply to  Allan MacRae
December 9, 2022 7:36 pm

Apologies for multiple entries – two previous ones just disappeared.

ralfellis
December 9, 2022 7:47 am

Why do environmentalists get BBC airtime?

Because back in 2006 the BBC held a seminar with 28 ‘scientists’ which decided that the BBC would NEVER give the opposing view to climate alarmism. This was the infamous ‘BBBC-28 Seminar’.

However, after blocking FoI requests about this meeting for many years, the list of attendees was finally published. And the majority of attendees were actually reporters and climate activists.

See The Register report:
https://www.theregister.com/2012/11/13/climate28_named_wtf

.

Full List of Participants to the BBC CMEP Seminar on 26 January 2006

Specialists:
Robert May, Oxford University and Imperial College London
Mike Hulme, Director, Tyndall Centre, UEA
Blake Lee-Harwood, Head of Campaigns, Greenpeace
Dorthe Dahl-Jensen, Niels Bohr Institute, Copenhagen
Michael Bravo, Scott Polar Research Institute, University of Cambridge
Andrew Dlugolecki, Insurance industry consultant
Trevor Evans, US Embassy
Colin Challen MP, Chair, All Party Group on Climate Change
Anuradha Vittachi, Director, Oneworld.net
Andrew Simms, Policy Director, New Economics Foundation
Claire Foster, Church of England
Saleemul Huq, IIED
Poshendra Satyal Pravat, Open University
Li Moxuan, Climate campaigner, Greenpeace China
Tadesse Dadi, Tearfund Ethiopia
Iain Wright, CO2 Project Manager, BP International
Ashok Sinha, Stop Climate Chaos
Andy Atkins, Advocacy Director, Tearfund
Matthew Farrow, CBI
Rafael Hidalgo, TV/multimedia producer
Cheryl Campbell, Executive Director, Television for the Environment
Kevin McCullough, Director, Npower Renewables
Richard D North, Institute of Economic Affairs
Steve Widdicombe, Plymouth Marine Labs
Joe Smith, The Open University
Mark Galloway, Director, IBT
Anita Neville, E3G
Eleni Andreadis, Harvard University
Jos Wheatley, Global Environment Assets Team, DFID
Tessa Tennant, Chair, AsRia

BBC attendees:
Jana Bennett, Director of Television
Sacha Baveystock, Executive Producer, Science
Helen Boaden, Director of News
Andrew Lane, Manager, Weather, TV News
Anne Gilchrist, Executive Editor Indies & Events, CBBC
Dominic Vallely, Executive Editor, Entertainment
Eleanor Moran, Development Executive, Drama Commissioning
Elizabeth McKay, Project Executive, Education
Emma Swain, Commissioning Editor, Specialist Factual
Fergal Keane, (Chair), Foreign Affairs Correspondent
Fran Unsworth, Head of Newsgathering
George Entwistle, Head of TV Current Affairs
Glenwyn Benson, Controller, Factual TV
John Lynch, Creative Director, Specialist Factual
Jon Plowman, Head of Comedy
Jon Williams, TV Editor Newsgathering
Karen O’Connor, Editor, This World, Current Affairs
Catriona McKenzie, Tightrope Pictures

Ralph.

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Graham
Reply to  ralfellis
December 9, 2022 1:48 pm

Where are the climate scientists other than may be a marine biologist?

Allan MacRae
Reply to  ralfellis
December 10, 2022 8:05 am

Gang of woke BS-ers!

Last edited 1 month ago by Allan MacRae
Allan MacRae
Reply to  ralfellis
December 10, 2022 10:45 am

Apologies… My previous post must have contained a banned word.

I wrote something like “This esteemed group of individuals are factually and ethically challenged and have negative intellect and integrity”, or words to that effect.

Pat from Kerbob
December 9, 2022 11:41 am

I would also mention Germany paying south africa 800mil euros last year as danegeld to not use coal, and now importing millions of tons of coal, from south africa.

mikelowe2013
December 9, 2022 1:03 pm

Well, those “concerned Conservative MPs” are just displaying their appalling ignorance of technical matters, and their unwillingness to investigate a matter about which they obviuosly know very little!

Gary Pearse
December 9, 2022 2:40 pm

“While this is a much less biased piece than the series of outright anti-mine propaganda articles written by Harrabin last year, it is still woefully one sided.”

Even notable sceptics here on WUWT have bought into the same anti-mining propaganda from the same NGOs who have been attacking this remarkable industry since the 1960s when the world was just beginning to think about enviromental issues.

I have been trying to convince the likes of Paul Driessen (CFACT), Ronald Stein (Heartland), Paul Homewood (notalotofpeopleknowthat) and other seemingly smart, knowledgeable climate sceptic stalwarts, that they have uncritically bought into the Dark Side NGO anti-mining meme. These are the very same activists using the same deceitful methods to promote the false “Climate Crises”.

Com’on you guys. It makes it easy to lampoon the woeful idea of grid lithium battery storage to patch up inadequate renewables, but it is dishonest (tiny kernels of truth that bolster another Big Lie) and takes away from the laudable fight against the climate scam.

Here’s some reading I strongly recommend to get you started:

https://im-mining.com/2007/03/09/environmental-terrorism-exposing-the-shameful-behaviour-of-certain-anti-mining-ngos/

Moriarty
Reply to  Gary Pearse
December 9, 2022 2:50 pm

It depends on where the mines are, doesn’t it? Mines in western nations are much, much more environmentally friendly than mines in Asia and Africa.

Gary Pearse
Reply to  Moriarty
December 9, 2022 6:34 pm

Canada’s mining environmental regulations have been adopted by the UN as the template. Since it is also Canadian Law that any Canadian company developing mines outside the country must adhere to Canada’s environmental and occupational health and safety regulations.

Australia, South Africa and Canada developed regulations regarding details that must be in a bankable feasibility study in order to raise capital for development (environmental factors and transparency are paramount). Regulations even provide the chapter titles that must be in the reports!! If you leave any blank, you must give a satisfactory explanation! Google NI 43-101.

Virtually every stock exchange and substantial bank has adopted this scheme. Lenders hire their own mining engineering consultants to review projects for them. The World bank uses the same scheme. China has even come around over the last decade adopting the same scheme.

If that ain’t enough, ponder this factoid: 20yrs ago Canadian companies managed over 70% of the global mining exploration budget and Australia ~20%. Canadians were developing Angola’s first diamond pipe discovery in the midst of a civil war! They were mining a major gold deposit in Russia’s Far East and another in Mongolia. They reopened a deposit in Romania that had been mined by the Roman’s 2000yrs ago ….. I’ve worked and consulted in Nigeria, Benin, Togo, DR Congo, Tanzania, Brazil, Nevada, USA, Potugal, Sweden all over Canada… Yeah, mining used up a lot of my time!

Jackdaw
December 10, 2022 10:34 am

This is brilliant news, I didn’t think the government would have the bottle to approve this, but there’s still time for them to do one of their now ubiquitous U-turns.
Who know, perhaps they will see the light and turn again on their fracking decision. After all if they changed their minds on this mine and onshore windmills there’s hope yet for a reverse ferret on fracking.

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