Essay by Eric Worrall
Try to imagine TV and weather feeds packed with even more climate propaganda, in the middle of emergency storm preparations.
Climate change is making the weather more severe. Why don’t most forecasts mention it?
November 23, 20225:00 AM ET
REBECCA HERSHERAt global climate talks that just wrapped up, one of the few areas of agreement was about the worldwide toll of climate-driven weather disasters.
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But that science is largely missing from public weather forecasts that millions of people in the U.S. rely on. As severe weather gets more common, scientists and forecasters are contending with a sneakily difficult question: How do we work together to explain the role of climate change?
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Hurricane Ian led to some confusing climate change communication
The gap between scientists and forecasters was on full display when Hurricane Ian hit Florida in September. The storm gathered strength over abnormally hot water in the Gulf of Mexico – water made hotter by human-caused global warming.
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But forecasts and statements from the National Hurricane Center didn’t mention how climate change was likely to make Hurricane Ian more severe.
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Read more: https://www.npr.org/2022/11/23/1136809782/climate-change-is-making-the-weather-more-severe-why-dont-most-forecasts-mention
Grow up Rebecca Hersher. Stop thinking about your priorities and start thinking about what it must be like for people preparing to face a major storm.
There is plenty of time for your climate proselytising after the emergency has passed.
People facing an natural disaster, in the middle of preparations for that disaster, need useful information which will help them survive, not useless irrelevancies like discussions of whose fault the storm is.
“”Try to imagine…””
Have you not heard of the BBC?
Everything is climate related
Why don’t weather reports mention CC???
Because it’s WEATHER not CLIMATE…stupid
I heard a BBC weather forecast talking about “extreme mildness” earlier this month.
dangerously mild weather- due to human caused climate change? 🙂
Yes, and now that the extreme mildness has ended, my gas use for last week was double the week before.
“Oi, let’s be seein’ yer gas loicense then!”
[Unfortnunately, the above joke may be more true in the near future than it ever should be]
Similar to to Seattle weather forecasters predicting the possibility of “sun breaks” in the otherwise totally overcast day.
Where are the times when a talk about weather was a polite British conversation?
Replaced by talk about the coming climate apocalypse
Let’s not forget that even the IPCC says that it is impossible to trace individual storms to climate change.
Of course all of the actual science shows that there is no increase in severe weather, but since that disagrees with the models, it must be suppressed.
‘…even the IPCC, for now, says that it is impossible to trace individual storms to climate Change.”
Sorry Mark, when it comes to the propaganda narrative driven by the world bureaucracies no statement stands forever. Give them time. Right now universities are being funded to come up with a plausible story that will allow them to speculate [read hypothesize] a link between climate change and individual storms. One day the Propaganda Ministry will surely sign off the evening news with a weather forecast like the following e.g. forecast for tomorrow sunny with mild climate change changing to severe climate change overnight with a flood watch for the following areas:…”
These people have no conscience nor soul. This is power driven evil and they need us under their thumb.
Insert George Carlin aka HippieDippyWeatherman here. Priceless comedy.
but, per Ms. Heather:
“That connection between extreme weather and climate change has never been clearer, thanks to an area of science known as extreme-event attribution.”
(as an ‘Extreme-Event Attribution’ (EEA) scientist myself, I have to say that I agree with Ms. Heather. It has never been clearer … it was murky 30 years ago & it is just as murky today; it has not cleared up at all. 97% of my EEA colleagues agree with my assessment.)
I don’t believe Ms. Hersher is real…. there’s noting to find out about her qualifications other then she’s a reporter earning her living scary children and liberals to death. So I categorize her article as FAKE NEWS.
“But that science is largely missing from public weather forecasts …”
Maybe it’s because that “science” does not exist since there is no data supporting it ?
The science exists in Rebecca Hersher’s mind and perception is reality to these addled brain folks….
Not to mention that the weather IS NOT “getting worse” in any respect. So if you’re looking to blame “climate change” for the weather, you don’t actually have anything to accuse it of.
“As severe weather gets more common, scientists and forecasters are contending with a sneakily difficult question: How do we work together to explain the role of climate change?”
You don’t. Unless you are colluding to drive a movement rather than a forecasting system based on sound science.
gotta work together for the cause
“I gave up on Judith Curry a while ago. I don’t know what she thinks she’s doing, but it’s not helping the cause, or her professional credibility.”
—Dr. Michael Mann, IPCC Lead Author, disclosed Climategate e-mail, May 30, 2008
The above quote from https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/11/22/climategate-never-forget-12th-anniversary/
Note the implied link between “the cause” and “professional credibility”.
I’m sensitive to the accusation of “professional credibility” because as a forester for 50 years I’ve constantly challenged forestry policies in Massachusetts. The honchos accuse me of being unprofessional for doing so. They throw that at me rather than address what I had to say.
Apparently a “professional” is someone who does what his boss wants, no questions asked.
That’s why I’ve been self-employed since the late ’70s- so I won’t have to obey anyone.
It’s gotten to the point where they have to shove it down our throats every time there’s some unusual weather event.
“By the way, this will likely continue to happen because of climate change… “
This is just my thoughts but if that was really the case would they have to try harder to let us know? Is this a sign of desperation?
In the UK it’s not restricted to unusual weather events, it gets into virtually every item. It’s now easier to count items where CC does not get a mention than those where it does
By doing that the British press is digging CAGW’s own grave. One has to be pretty dumb to not realize that every weather event is tied to CAGW. This means that the big Wake Up will likely start in Britain.
The storm gathered strength over abnormally hot water in the Gulf of Mexico – water made hotter by human-caused global warming.
There is no evidence that this was the case. If the air was bit hotter it’s puny heat content would not effect water temperature in any significant way
They claim that the oceans have warmed by only a few hundredths of a degree celsius.
That might increase the average speed of hurricane winds by several centimeters per hour.
PS: It’s easy to refute the claim, but I’m using their numbers as a worst case.
What no one points out is that the Gulf had no major hurricanes this year before Ian, so the warm water was “untouched” and not cooled by previous hurricane wave action.
Few storms of any kind, not just hurricanes.
The constant droning about CLIMATE CHANGE is wearing thin on everyone. It’s akin to The Boy Who Cried Wolf except anyone that’s paying attention today knows the wolf never materializes. Without the MSM continually spouting overblown descriptions about every weather event and linking it to CC people wouldn’t even make a connection.
Worse yet, no doubt it is causing people to simply tune out – as in not paying attention anymore or simply avoiding media that keep doing it.
I know I have become very selective about what I watch and read – news/weather and otherwise. I used to watch a lot of nature documentaries, and now I watch very few. The BBC makes some beautifully photographed (and animated, for prehistoric nature) documentaries but I am sick to death of being lied to…
I watched an interesting show the other night about the wildlife and native peoples of Australia. But then, when it showed how animals are adapted to summer heat, it just had to bring up the lie about summers being so much hotter. And the lie about the forest fires being so much worse….
In the end, as I said, many will simply tune it out in a very literal sense! I miss my nature documentaries, but I don’t miss having my blood pressure shoot up when the inevitable lies come.
Adding that the show about Australia was not BBC, but regardless it was also infected with the CAGW religion.
Lee,
You’re right.4There is one real danger – folks tune out when a real weather event – bad storm, unseasonal snow or similar – is due, and don’t get the warning.
‘Boy cries Wolf’ principle.
And will the Beeb take responsibility for any of the consequent damage [and death]?
I won’t hold my breath – though you could do so, of course!
Auto
Ms. Hersher is simply repeating the standard alarmist narrative being disseminated from so many other outlets. It’s monkey see, monkey do.
The art of critically analyzing and thinking for oneself would appear to be dying out, at least among news outlets. One is not allowed to do any journalism (if we can still call it that) which is outside the standard party line of Big Brother.
Good thing she’s not black, otherwise that would be racist.
I doubt Ms. Her/she(r) is not even a real person… Her/She seems to be made up nme. I can’t find out what qualifies her as nothing more then a “bot” for PBS
Because severe weather forecasts are about severe weather and not about climate change. Also not mentioned in severe weather forecasts are shifts in population, urbanization, how stupid it is to build houses and live in flood zones and “if you can’t afford flood insurance you probably shouldn’t live in a flood zone.”
A) Those “global climate talks” did not talk about or utilize “science”. They talked politics, 100% of the time.
B) There is, still, zero evidence to prove anything Anthropogenic Global Warming.
i) if Rebecca Hersher had paid any attention to the alleged “science”, she would note that alarmists are desperate to claim cold, ice and snow as products of “Global Warming”. Mostly because their entire scam is in grave danger of being exposed.
Well, in answer to the question “Climate change is making the weather more severe. Why don’t most forecasts mention it?” :
Because it simply isn’t true (enough) to bother with.
“Climate change is making the weather more severe” is a media-meme, a climate alarm talking point, not a fact.
It is sometimes possible to say “making the weather more severe”, and sometimes it is in a very trivial sense — like heat wave made 1 degree hotter, or increasing the wind speed of a storm (maybe) by 3 mph. Even ideas like those are never proven or even provable.
NPR (and/or many of its sub-units) are part of various climate propaganda news cabals, sworn to push “The Climate Crisis” in every story conceivable (and some that are not.)
There may be real honest people somewhere in the weather broadcasting world that have been around long enough to recognize the lie and refusing to repeat it.
Yes Kip I agree there might be one or two honest people in the weather broadcasting world but I doubt that there are many honest politicians in governments in many countries around the world.
Politicians are using the threat of climate change to achieve their socialist goals .
I heard our socialist ( communist ) Prime Minister blaming our late October (spring )frosts here in New Zealand which decimated Kiwi fruit and other horticultural crops on CLIMATE CHANGE.
How could that be when they are scaring every one with the threat of a tipping point of runaway heat ?
MEANWHILE, ‘back at the swamp’: EPA to Spend $13 Billion on ‘Environmental Justice’ and Climate
https://thepoliticalinsider.com/epa-to-spend-13-billion-on-environmental-justice-and-climate/
I’ve tried DDG’ing around for information on her educational background. No luck yet. My guess is she’s as innumerate and scientifically illiterate as most ot the rest of the MSM, and has not a clue about what she’s talking about.
Found this
Where did Rebecca Hersher go to college?
Hersher came to NPR from Nature Medicine, where she wrote about biomedicine and pharmaceuticals, and started her career in science, with a B.A. in Neurobiology from Harvard University in 2011
Not much CLIMATE in those credentials
I know someone with a B.A. in Neurobiology from Cornell in 2010, and based on that, I have to give R.H. some credit for having some real science background. Wish she would put it to better use.
But Bill Nye, B.S. Mechanical Engineering at Cornell, 1977, should also know better. My hypothesis is Bill gave up real science for showmanship, and thus, what the producers think will make the most money for the show, which is global warming, not skepticism.
Its part of the Harvard medical School. Seems a strange major to choose on its own without doing a graduate degree.
Neuro is a good background for Medical School, but if you don’t do well on the various graduate acceptance tests, you’re not getting in, regardless of your Harvard or Cornell undergraduate degree. Being a minority helps, though.
A Bachelor Degree in Neurobiology is certainly not an Easy task. Though I would have thought it would be a Bachelor of Science degree (BS) rather than Bachelor of Arts (BA).
As a staff member in a college of science, when we award a BA it usually means the candidate did not complete some of the math intensive and hands on analysis parts of the program, but passed all the classroom portions. It is considered the lesser degree.
I agree it was surprising to me that it was a B.A. and not a B.S. In fact, the Cornellian thought he was getting a B.S. right up to graduation, and had already had “BS” put on his class ring.
Cornell has a School of Hotel Management, with a hotel on campus that the “Hotelie” undergrads work in starting in the kitchen and moving on to everything else. Graduates get a B.S. in Hotel Administration, with nary a math or science requirement higher than Freshman level. Go figure that B.S. vs. the B.A. in Neuro.
If she was right, I wouldn’t give a schist whether she had a science degree or a H. S. diploma.
Nice looking lady with the most perfect teeth I’ve ever seen- but she isn’t listening to the NPR stations in New England or eastern NY since they constantly talk about climate change- if not in the context of the daily weather.
JZ,
The Sherrington hypothesis on teeth is about 6 years old now and unchallenged. In short, increasing CO2 in the air since about 1975 has caused teeth of people born since then to be larger. You see it after youngsters pass milk teeth stage. The effect varies in strength from person to person. Some would say it is more visible for blond females, if you take time to observe their teeth. One prominent example comes from New Zealand, which might help explain why hate of CO2 is promoted there as government policy. Also in support is recent dislike of the male name “Buck” as in Buck Rogers. Those with teeth over-enlarged by CO2 fertilization can find it hard to pronounce Buck, while Rogers remain the same.
Deep, fascinating topic. Fossil teeth size correlates with historic CO2, example T. rex.
Geoff S
Let’s be clear here… Rebecca Hersher wants “climate change” mentioned in severe weather forecasts/reports so she can cite them as “evidence” of climate change.
[catastrophic] [anthropogenic] saturation effect (CASE)
Maybe she ought to read the actual IPCC reports and conclusions that there has not been found any correlation between extreme weather events and global warming. That’s the 97% consensus, you see. It’s only the dumb media and climatistas who keep claiming that extreme weather events are increasing in frequency or strength since 1850, despite constant attempts to link the two unrelated processes/events.
They are just saving that for the next report….
The forecasts may be non-committal, but the forecasters are not beyond stoking up the alarm when asked their opinion (not officially endorsed by the Met office of course)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00uGSlFBVDs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl-ABiTO_rA
How else are we going to keep pace for our share of the reparations pie? I saw a cloud and a gust of wind today.
Please define “climate change”.
That was yesterday. Today is carbon capture Monday…
Groups ask EU to drop carbon removal from climate plans – ABC News (go.com)
This is not random. The Climate Crusade media instructors have been told to expect cold and that requires a lot of unsupported, unscientific opinion broadcasting to deflect and reshape the facts back toward the Crusade directives.
You don’t have to imagine. When Hurricane Ian was threatening Florida’s Gulf Coast, Don Lemon (CNN) kept harassing NHC Acting Director Jaime Rhome to lay the blame for the storm on climate change. Instead of asking for pertinent data that people in peril could use to make a decision, The Sour One insisted on a rant about carbon dioxide.
The Stupid it BURNS!!!
Don thinks a black hole swallowed the missing airliner, Malaysia Airlines Flight 370.
Don should not to be taken seriously on anything.
Didn’t have to go that far to make that determination; I stopped at “CNN.”
If Rebecca wants to visit, I’ll cook supper and provide a nice wine. The price is I get to show her the lack of climate change and explain the benefits of a warmer world, and higher numbers of Carbon Dioxide molecules in the atmosphere. Dinner will be anchored by native salmon cooked in the backyard over an open fire.
Because it’s like mentioning COVID everytime some has the sniffles
Hurricane Ian is an example of climate change? It’s like there has never been a hurricane before. Here is a list of hurricanes to have hit Florida since records began in 1851 (I pick Florida because Ian was a Florida): Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Unnamed, Easy, King, Florence, Hazel, Flossy, Donna – that’s ninety hurricanes and we’re only up to 1960, but maybe you get the message: Hurricanes are things that hit the USA quite often, they are nothing new. Nothing has changed. And BTW eleven of the hurricanes I’ve just listed were category 4+ (Ian was cat 4).
But, but, I hear them say, “hurricanes are stronger and more frequent now. Florida has had three cat 4+’s in the last six years – Irma 2017, Michael 2018, Ian 2022”. Hmmm. What about the four cat 4+’s in four years: Unnamed 1947, Unnamed 1948, Unnamed 1949, King 1950? And please note that the ten-year Florida hurricane-free period 2006-2015 is the longest on record; the previous longest Florida hurricane-free periods were five years 1980-1984, and four years 2000-2003, 1988-1991.
Better to face the facts. Hurricanes happen. Floridans would do best if they simply prepared for the inevitable. To their credit, that seems to be what most of them actually do.
This is how fear mongering propaganda works. It institutes a bandwagon of self righteous actions that takes on a life of it’s own. People make names for themselves by enforcing the bandwagon…trenchant zealots they are. There is no such thing as distinction without separation. All is one in the truth of the threat. This is why the pandemic propaganda and climate change propaganda piggybacked each other so well.
Storms happen as normal and storms are impacted by various known and unknown climate variables, they call it weather.
Example, there is clear evidence that COVID 19 was wide spread in PA in December 2019 through Jan 2020. People were testing positive for common coronavirus because there was no test for COVID at that time. No one had even heard of COVID 19. Coronavirus admits went up as they always do in Late Fall with the respiratory viruses but there was no crisis in the hospitals. March comes along with the COVID test and all panic beaks out but the hospitals still don’t fill up. COVID admits increased because of the test. COVID was no different in 2020 than it was in 2019 but now we can call it COVID, and all is true in the threat of the pandemic. All distinction was lost and everywhere everyone was busy about the business of exaggerating the threat and naming it COVID. Brains just flew out the window. Today, the hospitals are filling up with people with respiratory viruses like they always do in late Fall. Very few are testing + for COVID and so everything is fine now. If we live long enough, the likely cause of death will be a respiratory virus.
What we need is a climate change test which empirically and unequivocally proves that a storm was enhanced by a climate change variable like a COVID test, until that happens everything is fine…. it’s just weather. LOL
NPR has fallen totally off the rails (if it ever was on the rails to begin with).
There’s an interesting podcast/video series by Peter Boghossian (someone I don’t think you could possibly accuse of having a conservative bias) called “All Things Re-Considered“, where he goes through some past NPR All things considered episodes and outlines their biased and shoddy reporting. Well worth a listen if you have time.
Not sure if it’s as bad as the ABC here in Australia though… they had a segment that I happened on yesterday where they attributed ALL costs of ALL extreme weather to climate change. There is little to no legacy media that is capable of honesty. It’s likely that they were never honest, but now we are able to much more easily look at the underlying data and see through the charade. I fear a clamp down is coming, free and open access (as little as there currently is) to data is a massive threat to those who desire power and control.
Opinion science and advocacy science work well in NPR “reporting” priorities. This too shall pass, hopefully.
“NPR: Why Don’t Severe Weather Forecasts Mention Climate Change?”
BECAUSE WEATHER ISN’T CLIMATE!
Not sure what planet she lives on, all we heard was how climate change makes it worse, fact free assertations 24-7 before during and after weather events.
If she’s this clueless and out of touch she should be fired and forced to start over again.
I went to the website, no way to comment.
As to hurricanes, i would again point out that the models gave 65% chance of above average hurricane season, 10% for below average, so the model had a 1 in 10 chance of being right. Far worse odds than flipping a coin.
Right after hurricane Ian the attribution wizards said the model showed the storm had 10% more rain than it would have except for our contributions, so that seems to be on pretty solid ground.
Not
From the article: “Climate change is making the weather more severe. Why don’t most forecasts mention it?”
There is no evidence Human-caused Climate Change (that’s what she means) is making the weather more severe. That is a figment of Alarmists’ imaginations and their wishful thinking.
Most meteorologists are smart enough not to claim that human-caused climate change is causing the weather they are reporting on.
If any of my local forecasters ever start inserting climate change propaganda into the forecast, they are going to get a very nasty letter from me. They and their bosses. I’ll ask their boss why they have a forecaster that does not understand how science works; that doesn’t understand the difference between speculation and evidence.
Worse, there’s more evidence of weather getting LESS severe than more severe.
Anybody can put the envelope to their head like Johnny Carson, er I mean plug all their incorrect assumptions into a “model” and conclude something about every “bad weather” event is supposedly “worse because climate change.”
What a crock of shit.
NPR Science Desk Reporter Rebecca Hersher: An “emote”.
An emote – One who makes decisions based purely on emotions rather then rational judgement; one who is overly emotional in lieu of present rationality.
For that matter, why don’t severe weather forecasts ever mention space aliens, the loch ness monster and bigfoot?
NPR readers won’t know the difference will they.
*sigh*
About the author: Rebecca Hershey has a Bachelors degree (undisclosed field) from Hahvaad and works for NPR. Also a grantee of the Pulitzer Center ( a lunatic left organization promoting fringe causes like the 1619 project; no relation to the Pulitzer Prize organization). WHAT A MAROON! Who seriously reads this pulp fiction (The kind of shocking and sensational fiction found in a pulp magazine)?
“Grow up Rebecca Hersher. Stop thinking about your priorities and start thinking about what it must be like for people preparing to face a major storm.
There is plenty of time for your climate proselytising after the emergency has passed.”
Global ACE is at 74% of “normal” and even the N. Atlantic ACE is at 96%!
Global Tropical Cyclone Activity | Ryan Maue (climatlas.com)
And Tornados? Are under the 20th percentile:
Inflation Adjusted Tornado Running Totals – Storm Prediction Center WCM Page (noaa.gov)
She doesn’t need to grow up! She needs to give her brain a chance!
Nominally it takes 30 years of data collection and analysis to determine what is really climate change vs weather cycles that are part of the current climate. Mankind does not know what the optimum global climate actually is let alone how to achieve it.