LIVE at NOON CST: Debunking the 3.2°C Apocalypse

Apparently, the claim that global temperatures rising 1.5°C wasn’t enough to adequately scare the population into submission. Why not double it then? Alarmists are pushing the narrative that we’re going to see warming of 3.2°C unless we ACT NOW.

On today’s episode of Climate Change Roundtable, Andy Singer, Linnea Lueken, Anthony Watts, and H. Sterling Burnett discuss this 3.2°C claim in detail. Where did this number come from? Is it a realistic possibility. Which climate model is predicting these results? The panel discusses these questions and more.

Watch LIVE here at NOON CST:

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November 18, 2022 8:34 am

I and many others in Ireland would welcome a 3.2°C warming.
I am sure many countries across northern Europe would also.

Reply to  Michael in Dublin
November 18, 2022 9:35 am

I would welcome 5 deg C warming the next few days … we expect snow flurries in the N. Tx area …

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Michael in Dublin
November 18, 2022 9:37 am

Yup, continuation of the Biggest Lie, the ridiculous notion that a warmer climate is worse, when it is in fact better.

They didn’t call the much-warmer-than-today “Holocene Climate OPTIMUM” an “optimum” because the weather was so “bad” under those conditions. Quite the opposite.

November 18, 2022 10:57 am

I just looked up Anthony on Wikipedia. It says he runs a “popular climate change denial blog”. Funny, but I don’t recall seeing here anybody denying that the climate never changes.

CD in Wisconsin
November 18, 2022 11:23 am

Did I hear Linnea correctly? Did she say that the logarithmic saturation effect of GHGs is not taught in college and university courses? That might explain why so many scientists (especially the younger ones) are in the alarmist camp today.

E. Schaffer
Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
November 18, 2022 6:49 pm

NO ONE claims CO2 forcing would increase “linnearly”. So no, Linnea is incorrect and it is a pointless statement.

Iain Reid
Reply to  E. Schaffer
November 19, 2022 12:42 am

Schaffer,

that doesn’t mean to say that what was claimed is wrong, is it taught or is it not?
Something that is omitted is not the same as no one claiming that it is linear, especially if students assume it is?

E. Schaffer
Reply to  Iain Reid
November 19, 2022 8:36 am

Just copied that formula from a random educational site:

ΔFCO2 = 5.35 W·m–2 * ln(560/280) = 3.7 W·m–2

Guess what the “ln” (natural logarithm) stands for? Yes, it is about the logarithmic nature of CO2 forcing. You will not get around this in the most basic climate education. The claim it was not taught is indeed perfectly wrong. And she is supposed to know this. The question is only, if you call it a logarithmic function, or “saturation”, which some scepticals seem to prefer.

I do not understand what the point here is. There is appalling nonsense in “the science”, but the critical side barely deals with it. On the other side it delivers bad, or simply wrong arguments, making me defend “the science” against my will, so to say..

Joy
November 18, 2022 4:57 pm

Thank you for this video Anthony. Please to hear that there’s a video gong out weekly on this topic.
What strikes me from reading this subject and your blog over many years is the recursive nature of the arguments FOR “agw”/climate change which are shown to be wrong from the physics to the statistics and back again. It seems AGW is like Disney films used to be. They come round every seven years and there’s one born every minute ready to be drawn in.

Look forward to hearing some more videos/audio discussions.
Great to see that there’s new fresh faces taking up the cudgels against the now supranational communistic green political wave.

observa
November 18, 2022 5:13 pm

Would you believe us if we told you that just like its creatures, Earth too regulates its own body in ways we cannot completely comprehend? 

I would. Relax as apparently Gaia wants us to promote more silicate weathering-
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/techandscience/earth-regulates-its-own-temperatures-through-a-stabilising-mechanism-study-finds/ar-AA14fLN6
Gaia works in mysterious ways my sun and such are the ways of Almighty Gaia. The Devil is in the details so Mann should not worship false screen Gods.

observa
November 19, 2022 12:49 am

In comparison to what we know about other aspects of Earth’s atmosphere, scientists still know relatively little about how clouds form…..

Predicting accurately where, how, and how many clouds will form is extremely difficult,

Gaia knows all about the iodine too-
https://www.msn.com/en-au/weather/topstories/the-ocean-s-iodine-helps-create-clouds-but-high-levels-burn-through-the-ozone-layer/ar-AA14eMe2

November 21, 2022 5:44 am

Last time it was 2 – 3 C warmer the Sahara was green: