Canada’s Green New Deal: “To Hell with That” (Premier Moe speaks)

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By Robert Bradley Jr. — November 16, 2022

“[Canada is] heading down this same dark cul-de-sac that we have seen the European head. And we see energy and climate policy at the national level in our nation that just is not grounded in the reality of the situation that we’re facing.” –  Premier Scott Moe, Saskatchewan

Scott Moe, the current premier of Saskatchewan, is a foe of climate alarmism and forced energy transformation. He is a major critic of Justin Trudeau, Prime Minister of Canada, in this regard.

The biography of Moe touts his commitment

to advancing the economic interests of Saskatchewan through strengthening Saskatchewan’s high-quality agricultural, mining, manufacturing, and energy industries that meet the needs of growing markets around the globe with world-leading efficiency and sustainability.

He supports mineral energies, the density and reliability of which outcompetes dilute, intermittent wind and solar, as well as grid-scale batteries.

PipelineOnline.CA reported excerpts from Moe’s speech under the headline, “‘To hell with that,’ Moe says regarding federal policies seeking to shut down coal and natural gas power generation, and limit fertilizer usage.” Those excerpts follow:

Mr. Speaker, we saw, as we led into this fall, the release of a white paper, which was this government putting forward the opportunities that we have in this province and ultimately where some of the challenges are. Nine federal policies we had identified. … the cost is $111 billion.

And there’ll be some discussion about whether that number should be lower or higher. I would say likely higher because we see moving goalposts by the federal government. It made all sorts of commitments that . . . Oh the carbon tax was supported by the members opposite. It’s going to be $50 a tonne. It isn’t going to be too bad. We’ll never go above that until we go to $170 a tonne, Mr. Speaker. That’s called a moving goalpost.

You’re seeing it time and time and time again. You’re seeing it with the clean fuel standard. You’re seeing it with a fossil fuel phase-out now. Not a coal phase-out by 2030, but now a fossil fuel phase-out by 2035, which is going to make for an awfully cold house in Saskatoon on January 1st, 2036 when the Queen Elizabeth natural gas plant shuts down, Mr. Speaker. And the same will happen in North Battleford and across this province.

So, Mr. Speaker, these are moving goalposts that ultimately are going to push that $111 billion cost higher. And most certainly if done, these types of environmentally, solely environmentally focused policies have pushed those electricity costs, those energy costs higher in other areas of the world, and we shouldn’t think for a minute that the same isn’t going to happen here.

And one needs to look no further than the European Union, Mr. Speaker, and the conglomerate of European countries where there is a very cautionary tale unfolding for, I would say, the rest of the world to observe. And it’s on full display for the world to observe. The energy costs in the European Union over the last number of years, due to enacting these solely environmental-focused policies, have been skyrocketing…. We see now a warning about brownouts, blackouts, and they’re already advising there’s going to be energy rationing as we find our way through these winter months.

Recently in this nation we had the chancellor of Germany, Mr. Olaf Scholz. He was in Canada and what he was trying to do was secure an LNG [liquefied natural gas] supply from Canada to Germany. What we provided to the chancellor of Germany, to Mr. Scholz, was in five years we’re going to provide you some hydrogen from a plant that isn’t built yet.

Nor is the wind farm built to power that hydrogen production, but we’re going to have this all together in five years and we’ll send it to you then. That’s going to add up to a pretty cold winter in Germany this year, so that answer wasn’t sufficient to provide Germany with some of the most sustainable LNG that you can find on earth produced here in Canada.

So he went to the United Arab Emirates, Mr. Speaker. I was talking with my counterpart in the Emirates just a couple of days ago, and they were able to secure an MOU and secure a supply of LNG for Germany out of the Emirates about 10 days after the chancellor was here in Canada, Mr. Speaker. And that’s disappointing. Now that’s disappointing. I would say it should be disappointing for all Canadians.

What we see happening in Germany is they are actually nationalizing their refineries. The opposition party when they were government are familiar with nationalizing industries here in the province. They’re rapidly building LNG plants wherever they can, which they haven’t done for a number of years.

They’ve been shuttering their coal-fired plants, but they’re restarting those because they aren’t able to restart the nuclear plants that some countries have been phasing out. And in Germany specifically, $60 billion is being provided over the next few months just to transition their residents through what is an electricity and energy crisis, Mr. Speaker — $60 billion over the next few months.

And I would say that the Russian invasion of Ukraine is most certainly the immediate cause of this crisis that we’re seeing, this energy security crisis that the European Union has put themselves in. But I would say that that invasion, that Russian invasion of Ukraine, is only part of the explanation. Europe has put itself in a very precarious position by the policies that they have been enacting for a number of years prior to this invasion.

And there’s one observer that did note this a number of months ago. When you do your very best to discourage oil and gas production within the borders of your country, when you shut down coal-fired power plants and you don’t really have a realistic plan in place on how you’re going to replace that energy, when your plan is to purchase it from a country like Russia, that isn’t a realistic plan if you want true energy security.

When you fail to diversify your energy supplies within the confines of your border or your allied countries, when you put all your faith in renewables and renewables alone, which do have severe limitations when it comes to baseload power, when you do all of that you better have one good backup plan, Mr. Speaker. You better have a strong backup plan.

And in Europe, across the European Union, I would say — possibly with the exception of France with over 80 per cent of their power coming from nuclear power — they didn’t have a very good backup plan, Mr. Speaker. And now they’re dealing with the consequences of those very decisions.

And I would say wherever we are, whether you’re in government or opposition or business or whatever your role is in your community and your family, you can ignore reality for a period of time, but you can’t ignore the consequences of ignoring that reality.

The consequences of having an energy policy that does not prioritize energy security and subsequently food security, well they’re now on full display in the European Union for the rest of the world to observe. And we should know in this nation, and we do know in this province that we can’t be too complacent.

We can’t be too complacent for a minute. We’re heading down this same dark cul-de-sac that we have seen the European head. And we see energy and climate policy at the national level in our nation that just is not grounded in the reality of the situation that we’re facing….

There was an article from Pipeline (Online) done by another esteemed reporter, Brian Zinchuk, entitled “Saskatchewan First Act introduced to literally keep the lights on in this province, and allow farmers to keep using nitrogen fertilizer.”

Mr. Speaker, it goes on and begins, and just a first couple of sentences go like this, and I quote:

Thou shalt not use coal for power generation post-2030, the federal government hath said. And it’s moving to do the same with natural gas by 2035. It also wants to limit farmers’ fertilizer usage, all in the name of climate change policies.

On Nov. 1, the province of Saskatchewan [has] said, [and I quote] “To hell with that,” but in a much more sophisticated, legal manner.

Mr. Speaker, more seriously with all of the chaos and uncertainty that we are seeing around the world, much of that centred in the Ukraine area, in that Eastern Europe area, Mr. Speaker, and what we’re seeing and how that’s impacting uncertainty in the rest of the world, including here in our province of Saskatchewan, Mr. Speaker, it’s absolutely necessary for us to — as a province that can provide the food, fuel, and fertilizer that the world so desperately needs — to provide energy security, to provide food security.

It is incumbent on us to identify where our challenges are, Mr. Speaker, to put forward that conversation to our federal government and to other Canadians that energy security is important. We produce some of the most sustainable food, fuel, and fertilizer right here in the province of Saskatchewan. We’re proud of what we produce. We’re also proud of Saskatchewan residents as to how we produce that, how we produce that from an environmental perspective, from an ethical perspective, from a labour perspective, Mr. Speaker. We are very proud….

We need to come together as Canadians, Mr. Speaker. We need to come together as Canadians to be a strong and vibrant nation so that we can be proud of one another and what we do and provide, ultimately, the products that we do as Canadians to the world….

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Ron Long
November 17, 2022 2:15 am

Looks like there is some hope for the Frozen North after all. The last statistic I remember is that 80% of Canadians live within 100 miles of the southern border with the US. If it warmed up a little they could spread out some, but no, Trudeau is willing to destroy their economy for ineffective virtue-signaling. Maybe Premier Moe can get those famous Canadians, Bob and Doug, the Mckenzie brothers to help him, that would be a “beauty way to go”.

Reply to  Ron Long
November 17, 2022 5:57 am

Canada is not like Europe, which is grossly lacking in energy

Europe is in a “cul de sac”, a dead man walking, beyond redemption without major energy imports

Canada has great quantities of coal, oil and gas, and abundant hydro power.

All it has to do is get rid of Trudeau, and his gang of evil doers, to regain its sanity regarding using energy.

The US has great quantities of coal, oil, and gas, and hydro and nuclear.

All it has to do is to get rid of the cheating Democrats which keep stealing elections, and grab illegal control of the U.S. and state governments, to regain its sanity regarding using energy

Ron Long
Reply to  wilpost
November 17, 2022 6:45 am

Good, and remember Canada also has the world’s richest uranium mines, in the Athabasca Basin. Some of the deposits are so high in uranium, and daughter products, that the radiation is above limits, and the mining is handled by robots.

Reply to  wilpost
November 17, 2022 8:01 am

Canada is not like Europe, which is grossly lacking in energy

Europe is rich in coal and gas. The bureaucrats controlled by the greens just won’t exploit it, preferring renewables instead.

Reply to  wilpost
November 17, 2022 10:54 am

I would suggest regaining its sanity is a prerequisite to getting rid of Trudeau.
Same applies to the US

JamesB_684
Reply to  wilpost
November 17, 2022 11:39 am

The U.S. will also need to unseat the Quisling RINOs who support China and Ukraine more than they care about the U.S.A.

Sommer
Reply to  Ron Long
November 18, 2022 6:59 am

Yes, there’s hope. Take a look at this level of courage.
Danielle Smith outlines Justin Trudeau’s hostile actions toward Alberta’s energy sector

https://twitter.com/stephen_taylor/status/1593394224325615616?s=51&t=TBO5u_yXyFsa-lNkrmODcw

Sommer
Reply to  Sommer
November 18, 2022 2:14 pm

The psychological analysis of Canada’s energy policies is long overdue. Thank you Professor Peterson.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uui-E6xdr-Q
Showdown with Ottawa: Alberta’s New Premier | Premier Danielle Smith

Joy
November 17, 2022 2:19 am

Scott Moe for PM!
(In England)

Reply to  Joy
November 17, 2022 2:30 am

I suppose you mean Great Britain and Northern Ireland – England doesn’t have a Parliament of its own so it can’t have a PM of its own.
But I agree with your choice of person.

strativarius
Reply to  Oldseadog
November 17, 2022 3:51 am

Then there’s the Barnett formula….

2021 per capita spending:
England: £13,166 (2% below the UK average).

Scotland: £14,842 (11% above the UK average)
Wales: £14,222 (6% above the UK average)
Northern Ireland £15,357 (14% above the UK average).

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn04033/

Jackdaw
Reply to  strativarius
November 17, 2022 4:43 am

And today’s budget increases the amount the principalities get for health and education. That means the Numbskull Drakeford that leads the Welsh Labour government will spaff the education budget of free Welsh lessons for adults, a language that does nothing to enhance the employment prospects of anyone except Welsh language teachers.

Joy
Reply to  Oldseadog
November 17, 2022 5:28 am

Well no, England does have a Prime Minister, that his responsibilities are also for Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland?
The point was! (not) in Canada!
So far, only a fraction of a slip for the pound after the announcement so that’s a start.

strativarius
Reply to  Joy
November 17, 2022 5:43 am

Devolution was supposed to be an event. The English have no voice or parliament. That is no accident.

Joy
Reply to  strativarius
November 17, 2022 5:51 am

Absolutely, but it wasn’t my joke about the Canadian man.
Devolution, like open borders, risk assessments, health and safety, diversity…climage? are all Tony Blaire’s fault.
He is at the back of almost all bad trends and ideas here and also abroad, to some degree.

Reply to  Joy
November 17, 2022 8:02 am

Yes, Joy, the point about Canada is understood, but it is still the case that there is no English Parliament, it is the Parliament of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, so if there is no English Parliament there cannot be a PM for England, only a PM for GB&NI.
But I agree with your comment below, I’m just nit-picking.

Joy
Reply to  Oldseadog
November 17, 2022 8:29 am

Yes you’re just nitpicking!
I never said there was a parliament of England!
but in England….we have a PM!
So there! nitpickerer! 🙂

Joy
Reply to  Oldseadog
November 17, 2022 8:32 am

Has this been said before?
https://youtu.be/CARc1uUq1lA

Neil Lock
November 17, 2022 2:46 am

Mr. Moe tells it how it is. A remarkably good speech, considering he’s a politician.

Ed Zuiderwijk
November 17, 2022 2:53 am

Mr Moe would do well in keeping the population of Saskatchewan well armed.

Rod Evans
November 17, 2022 2:53 am

Can we have him as our actual PM, because the one we have, plus policies being put forward here in the UK by Sunak will ensure we are in the same dire straights that Germany finds itself in.
Our PM’s first act of National self harm was to reintroduce a fracking ban. That act of self harm is preventing the access to the massive gas reserves within the Bowland shales. He immediately imposed that ban on taking office. A ban which had been lifted for all of four weeks by his brief predecessor Liz Truss.
The Green blob forced her out of office via financial market manipulation.
They (the WEF) do not want/allow national energy independence, it is not allowed to have secure reliable energy, according to the Green blob. The ongoing ESG (Economic Suicide Guaranteed) investment policies, will ensure poverty advance is given priority over wealth creation.
Go figure as they say over there in the USA.

November 17, 2022 2:55 am

“We need to come together as Canadians, Mr. Speaker. We need to come together as Canadians to be a strong and vibrant nation so that we can be proud of one another and what we do and provide, ultimately, the products that we do as Canadians to the world…”
____________________________________________

He needs to shorten that up a bit. How ’bout, “Make Canada Great Again

Besides that, How long before our good friends on the left put together
a well organized smear campaign against the Honourable Scott Moe.

Reply to  Steve Case
November 17, 2022 6:02 am

Yeah, I bet ole Justin is eager to come together as Canadians. As long as you go along with what Justin wants.

strativarius
November 17, 2022 3:11 am

Canada has gone down the Trudeau rabbit hole. Like Morticia Ardern, he’s one of the new generation of globalist leaders. But old blackface got it wrong at the latest shindig…

“Xi, trying to mask his anger with a pointed smile, was filmed by Canadian journalists telling an increasingly awkward-looking Trudeau: ‘Everything that we discussed yesterday has been leaked to the papers and that’s not appropriate.’

A stunned Trudeau, almost at a loss for words, just nodded as Xi continued his rant through a translator. The Chinese President looked pointedly at Trudeau and added: ‘And that’s not the way the conversation was conducted.’

Trudeau, knowing that details of his meeting with Xi had been leaked by his Canadian government sources, did not address the Chinese President’s concerns and instead gave a hapless response.

‘Well in Canada, we believe in free and open and frank dialogue, which we will continue to have,’ he eventually managed to say.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11434835/President-Xi-humiliates-Trudeau-caught-camera-tearing-strips-Canadian-PM.html

Great stuff

Reply to  strativarius
November 17, 2022 6:22 am

I thought Justin was about to cry when Xi dressed him down.

With a few exceptions, Western leadership is completely unable to cope with current reality.

How have all these stupid people come to be running our lives?

Is the Leftwing Media/Propaganda Machine just too influential to the point of making people believe things that are not true?

Leftwing politicians are destroying our societies, yet they continue to get elected. What explains the lack of a Red Wave when it should be obvious to most people that the U.S. economy was doing great until the Democrats got in charge and then everything went to hell in a handbasket?

Yet too many people continue to vote for these Democrat fools.

I can’t explain it. Gullible. Credulous. Stupid. Easily influenced. Fraud. Something.

The result: People are incapable of governing themselves properly because they keep electing the wrong people (Democrats/Socialists). So, here comes inflation, and energy shortages and crashing economies and joblessness. And too many Americans voted for more of the same a few days ago.

Idiocracy.

abolition man
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 17, 2022 7:58 am

Too right, Tom!
The current Western idiocracies are the result of hardworking citizens paying too little attention as our schools were turned into religious indoctrination centers, and our watchdog media morphed into lapdog propagandists for corporate/government combines! Until the West throws out the nihilistic religion of Cultural Marxism, we will continue to march toward civilizational suicide!
Many people are asleep in a dreamworld where men can decide to be women, kids too young to vote or drink or smoke are encouraged to get their genitals mutilated, and the fundamental building block of Life is called a pollutant! Total idiocracy!

Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 17, 2022 11:05 am

Is the Leftwing Media/Propaganda Machine just too influential to the point of making people believe things that are not true?

Unfortunately, yes they are. As is proven repeatedly.

JamesB_684
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 17, 2022 11:47 am

Read “Skin in the Game” by Nassim Taleb for an analysis of the highly credentialed, yet intellectually stupid, who run our “elite” institutions.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 17, 2022 1:05 pm

I can’t explain it. Gullible. Credulous. Stupid. Easily influenced. Fraud. Something.

Catholics vs Protestants in Ireland

Philip CM
November 17, 2022 4:10 am

Canadians would do well to see that Trudeau’s political career ends soonest, and that he goes back to his harmless-self teaching drama.

Sommer
Reply to  Philip CM
November 18, 2022 2:06 pm

The psychological analysis of the ‘environmental policies’ is long overdue.
Thank you Professor Peterson!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uui-E6xdr-Q

Showdown with Ottawa: Alberta’s New Premier | Premier Danielle Smith

Jackdaw
November 17, 2022 4:39 am

The UK government should listen to Moe, he talks a lot of sense.

Sceptic-Al
November 17, 2022 5:21 am

There’s no science in the climate change narrative. This is proven by the fact that the discussion involves only politicians and journalists.

November 17, 2022 5:29 am

Who else thinks the AI image that heads this story is ridiculous?

Reply to  R Taylor
November 17, 2022 6:25 am

Is that a depiction of Premier Moe? I don’t know what he looks like.

A regular picture would probably have been better.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 17, 2022 7:10 am

To my eye, it is an example of how the Political Class might portray Stephen Harper, the last Canadian PM to challenge the Class’ divine right to rule.

ResourceGuy
November 17, 2022 7:01 am

The one thing they agree on in Canada is not to openly discuss their local content rules on renewable energy to maintain higher costs and prices and forced divestment of Chinese ownership in strategic minerals also to favor locals.

November 17, 2022 8:28 am

QDM on the Canadian Federal Government Carbon Tax and the Food Supply Chain

November 17, 2022 9:40 am

Scott Moe said “They’re rapidly building LNG plants wherever they can”

The Germans are building LNG vaporization plants as quickly as they can. These are just heaters, essentially pipe coils, fired by some of the LNG being vaporized. An LNG liquefaction plant is a vastly more complex system requiring big megawatt turbine compressors and cryogenic heat exchangers that take about 3 or 4 years to design, manufacture and install, not to mention the gas field that has to be developed to feed it with 1 or 2 BCFD of natural gas. Politicians don’t get the scope difference. Apparently neither does Moe, and he is more versed than most….

November 17, 2022 10:03 am

“you can ignore reality for a period of time, but you can’t ignore the consequences of ignoring that reality.”

How true, and well said.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Tony_G
November 17, 2022 12:23 pm

That can be used by both sides.

Geoffrey Williams
November 17, 2022 12:23 pm

Moe is the man. He is one of the few politicians to call out the foolishness of the alarmists . .

Edward Katz
November 17, 2022 2:26 pm

Scott Moe is realistic enough to recognize that when it comes to climate change, Canadian politicians, bureaucrats and academics, among others, are good at talking the talk; but when it comes to make the big lifestyle changes, that’s for other people. They all seem to have the David Suzuki mindset; i.e., never mind what I do, just do what I recommend. It’s because of such stances that Canada has had 6 different climate plans since 1988, and not one of them has come close to reaching its target. In addition, the current one is off to an inauspicious start. The main reason for these failures is that neither governments, businesses, industries nor consumers intend to make the major operational or lifestyle changes supposedly required to have any effect on climate. In fact, the majority of citizens consider the whole issue a big con job and put it well behind jobs, the economy, public health, living costs, public safety, and education on their list of priorities. Scott Moe is aware of this, but too many other public officials aren’t or won’t admit it.

November 17, 2022 4:14 pm

Not all canadian politicians are morons.
Moe gets it as does Danielle Smith in Alberta.
Poilievre and the federal conservatives need to use that picture of the German chancellor taken while Trudeau declares there is no business case for LNG (the only such place on earth).
Circumstances and reality are coming for our idiots.

Reply to  Pat from Kerbob
November 17, 2022 6:12 pm

Trudeau was quite right. There is no business case for LNG on the east coast of Canada.

Why? Because no sane business is going to spend hundreds of millions of dollars and five-plus years working through the byzantine and opaque environmental assessment process, (including “social license”, “gender equity” and “indigenous consultation” provisions) that HIS government has foisted on us, only to have the permit denied at the end for reasons that are either incomprehensible or deliberately vague.

And you can’t get anything to the east coast without going through Québec with its vast hydro-electric resources and greener-than-thou smugness. I could expound at great length about this, but it might sound prejudiced. The people of Québec deserve better governments than they’ve had for a long time. As do the people of the rest of Canada. As do the peoples of all the western liberal democracies. Sigh….

Old.George
November 18, 2022 10:11 am

Sanity?