Nationwide Cold Wave Continues with Numerous Low Temperature Records Likely to Be Set…Intense Great Lakes Snow Event on The Way

The “perfect” scenario for places like Buffalo and Watertown of western New York State to get pummeled by snow in a Great Lakes snow event is for an extended period of time with low-level W-SW winds – and this is definitely on the table for these locations from later Thursday into the upcoming weekend. Map courtesy NOAA,

Paul Dorian


Temperatures across the nation on Wednesday morning averaged out to an impressive reading of nearly 12 degrees (F) below-normal for mid-November and no state in the Lower 48 escaped the colder-than-normal chill.  The first widespread snow event of the season took place late Tuesday across the interior, higher elevation locations of the Mid-Atlantic/Northeast US with half of foot of snow recorded in many spots.  The next few days will feature a “Great Lakes snow-making machine” that will be turned on in full force and the result may be several feet of snow in some downstream locations such as Buffalo and Watertown in western New York State.  The nationwide cold wave will continue right through the upcoming weekend.

The nationwide temperature anomaly on Wednesday morning was an impressive nearly 12 degrees (F) below the average for November 16th. The unusually widespread early season cold wave will continue across much of the nation right through the upcoming weekend. Map courtesy NOAA, (Dr. Ryan Maue, Twitter)

Coast-to-coast cold continues

The first couple of weeks of November saw temperatures average well above normal in much of the eastern half of the nation, but the overall weather pattern has certainly changed in a significant way.  Virtually all the states in the Lower 48 experienced colder-than-normal chill on Wednesday morning with the 10 AM nationwide temperature anomaly registering at nearly 12 degrees (F) below the normal for the date.  This early season chill down will continue through the weekend in most of the country as reinforcing cold air masses drop into the US from Canada.  In fact, the next cold air outbreak will likely result in numerous low temperature records later in the week; especially, across portions of the central US where temperatures could drop to as much as thirty degrees below normal for mid-November.

There was a smattering of near or record low temperatures set on Tuesday morning (left map) and Wednesday morning (right map). More numerous low temperature records are likely to be set later in the week with the influx of an even colder air mass; especially, across the central states where temperatures could drop to nearly thirty degrees below-normal. Maps courtesy, NOAA

First snow event on Tuesday in the interior Mid-Atlantic/Northeast US

Low pressure developed late Tuesday near the Mid-Atlantic coastline and then intensified as it pushed to the northeast in the overnight hours.  A cold soaking rain took place along the immediate I-95 corridor (although some flakes and ice pellets mixed in at times), but it turned out to be the first widespread snow event for many interior, higher elevation locations of the Mid-Atlantic/Northeast US with half of foot measured in many spots. 

The interior, higher elevation sections of the Mid-Atlantic/Northeast US experienced their first widespread snow event of the season late Tuesday with many spots receiving as much as half a foot of snow. Map courtesy NOAA

Intense Great Lakes snow event on the way

Beginning late Thursday and continuing through much of the weekend, the atmospheric setup will be just right in some downstream locations of the Great Lakes for an intense and potentially crippling snow event.  Very cold air for this time of year will persistently pour over the still relatively warm waters of the Great Lakes and this action will destabilize the atmosphere in what is likely to become a long duration event into the weekend.

The potential exists for extreme snowfall amounts in coming days of up to several feet in places like Buffalo and Watertown in western New York State. Map courtesy NOAA/Buffalo NWS

It is always a difficult forecast to pin down the all-important exact wind flow in this kind of upcoming localized (“mesoscale”) weather event, but it appears there will be an extended period of W-SW winds blowing across Lake Erie and Lake Ontario. This is the perfect wind trajectory for places like Buffalo and Watertown to get pummeled with heavy snow bands as this wind direction allows the air to flow over the lake of interest (Erie or Ontario) for the longest time possible given the geographical orientation of each lake.  Given this expected wind flow scenario, copious amounts of moisture will push into Buffalo (from Lake Erie) and Watertown (from Lake Ontario) in the form of intense snow banding. This kind of event has the potential of dumping several feet of snow in localized areas such as Buffalo and Watertown with incredible hourly snow rates possible…a potential paralyzing early season snow event. 

Meteorologist Paul Dorian

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November 16, 2022 2:04 pm

Brrrr! Brrrr! Brrrr! Brrrr! Brrrr!


Martin Brumby
November 16, 2022 2:08 pm

That Global Heating Catastrophe is such a pest.

Keep warm y’all.

Reply to  Martin Brumby
November 16, 2022 6:46 pm

We have to stop drilling, so we can suffer in harmony with the Europeans, who never started drilling for gas, which is right beneath their feet all over Europe.

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Martin Brumby
November 17, 2022 1:43 pm

Well there may be a Global Heating FUEL crisis this year thanks to various idiots running various western lunatic asylums…

Edward Katz
November 16, 2022 2:14 pm

What happened to all the predictions from a few years ago that a warming planet would limit the snowfall period from Christmas to late February? Here in southern Manitoba we’ve had permanent snow since Nov. 10 even though the long-term average, according to Environment Canada’s records, has been the 23rd.

Reply to  Edward Katz
November 16, 2022 5:41 pm

Ditto on the ‘permanent snow’ scene here in N.E. WA. State. (But, we had wonderful ‘globull warming earlier this Fall)

Reply to  Edward Katz
November 16, 2022 6:27 pm

Here in Southern Utah, on Cedar Mountain at the village of Duck Creek, approximately 8000 foot elevation we have permanent snow that arrived the evening of the 9th.

We have had our cabin here since 2005, and this is the first time we have had this much snow this early. The “usual” first “staying” snow is in mid to late December.

It has also been COLD with daytime temperatures not making it above freezing since then but a warm up to 39 for tomorrow. A good thing because the storm of the 9th started with snow, than a little rain, then it turned cold and a foot of snow so the bottom layer is ICE and my roof has yet to completely clear even though it has been sunny. Several days near 40 are projected for next week, with mostly sunny and no precipitation expected..

It was 1 degree f this morning at 5 am, and it is 14 f as I write this.

BUT the snowshoeing has been great. Most of the smaller downed trees in the national forest next to our place are covered, and we have been working of our regular trail.

Reply to  Edward Katz
November 17, 2022 6:32 am

The climate changed or rather returned us to our normally observed range or no change at all.

Michael S. Kelly
Reply to  Edward Katz
November 17, 2022 7:01 pm

You misunderstood all of those predictions. What they really were saying is that a warming planet would result in climate change – which would include permanent snow from November 10, instead of the pre-industrial long-term average of November 23. So it’s exactly as predicted, though worse.

November 16, 2022 2:15 pm

This early in the season, lake waters are still relatively warm. This means that they are primed to put copious amounts of humidity into the air that passes over them.

Reply to  MarkW
November 16, 2022 6:54 pm

That is true to a point but the bigger factor is the intensity of the cold air. Buffalo tends to get its bigger storms early in the seaon because Lake Erie is not covered by ice. Lake Ontario does not freeze over so it never gets below freezing and the lake effect snows continue all winter long.

Reply to  rogercaiazza
November 17, 2022 8:33 am

Ha! Take a little drive along Hwy 21 going up the east shore of lake Huron in Ontario some time if you can. That Hwy, or at least major portions of it, is closed a good bit of the time during the winter.

Reply to  MarkW
November 17, 2022 8:30 am

I remember a few years back when some guy that claimed to be a meteorologist was harping about lake effect coming for Buffalo. I knew he was a liar because lake Erie was frozen at the time. The ice fishing shacks were out on the ice.

Reply to  rah
November 18, 2022 10:25 am

I believe one January (maybe 1977?), tho Erie was frozen, it also got covered w/alot of snow, and a very powerful windstorm blew that snow off the lake into Buffalo and piled up there, almost like a snow version of a sandstorm.

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Rud Istvan
November 16, 2022 2:18 pm

Al Gore says this is exactly what he predicted years ago (AGW=>More extreme weather=>more lake effect snow). And David Viner reminded us in 2000 that children would soon not know snow—so no children in Buffalo?

A separate prediction concerning Europe based on this being a third in a row La Niña winter, with the EU winter weather pattern fairly well established. It is going to be a real bad winter energy crisis given the absence of Nordstream 1 & 2. Might even wake some people up if they don’t freeze to death.

Reply to  Rud Istvan
November 16, 2022 5:43 pm

No need for the folks in parts of Europe to ‘wake up’… as I understand it, freezing to death is somewhat like ‘sleeping to death’.

Reply to  sturmudgeon
November 16, 2022 6:50 pm

Population control: They go to bed hungry and die of cold, while sending hard earned money to most corrupt Ukraine to keep its festival going, “for as long as it takes”

Reply to  wilpost
November 17, 2022 2:36 am

Hard to imagine any first world country more corrupt that Russia, unless it is China.

Reply to  BobM
November 17, 2022 8:37 am

Except one like Ukraine which just tried to start WW III by firing missiles into Poland and claiming the Russians did it.

John Hultquist
Reply to  Rud Istvan
November 16, 2022 7:56 pm

I believe David Viner was talking about southern England and has never experienced a lake-effect snow as you have. My first time was about 1960, leaving Erie PA heading south. We made it through the snow band and had clear roads for the next 60 miles.

November 16, 2022 2:25 pm

I predict the climate communications consultants will be up late explaining the climate change connection that makes this worse.

Reply to  ResourceGuy
November 17, 2022 1:13 am

Yep – and all the models will be tweaked to show that this is EXACTLY what AGW ‘predicts’.

David Dibbell
November 16, 2022 2:29 pm

I have family in the Buffalo area. Yikes. Imagine how much worse it will be when the only way to get around or heat your home is your BEV and heat pump. And what about I-90? NY is set to ban sales of new gasoline cars by 2035. It is scary to imagine what will happen on the Thruway when miles of traffic have been backed up in a snowstorm and all you can do is watch your battery indicator as you try to keep from freezing to death.

Reply to  David Dibbell
November 16, 2022 3:00 pm

Get in early and move south.

Climate science is so screwed they are misinterpreting the greatest climate change in the history of human civilisation. Rapidly warming Arctic region is the first readily observable indication that the current glaciation cycle is now getting into its stride. The first stage of the cycle is the next 10k years so it is a slow process but the signs are unmistakable.

The great failure is the use of anomalous temperatures at the expense of observing actual temperature. The warming in the Arctic is predominantly increasing minimum temperature and that only happens with increasing snowfall due to latent heat transport from the oceans. .

David Dibbell
Reply to  RickWill
November 16, 2022 3:15 pm

“Get in early and move south.”
But … but … what will we tell all those climate refugees about to arrive any time now from the warming crisis south of here? (/sarc.)

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Reply to  RickWill
November 16, 2022 5:46 pm

Our ‘snowberries’ were quite plentiful this Fall, in NE WA. State.

Reply to  David Dibbell
November 16, 2022 6:01 pm

heat your home is your BEV and heat pump”

People will have to brave the cold and snow to shovel the snow away from their outside heat pump units.

What happens later when the heat pump condensers are located within a pit of snow with 8-12 foot walls?

Reply to  ATheoK
November 16, 2022 6:40 pm

My relatives in Orchard Park (upslope from Buffalo) send me pictures every few years of snow drifts up to their 2nd story windows.

They would have to shovel their way out of their front door, just to shovel off the heat pump condenser.

Reply to  ATheoK
November 16, 2022 6:56 pm

Don’t forget the solar panels on the roof that powers those heat pumps in the magical net-zero New York of the future.

Reply to  rogercaiazza
November 17, 2022 11:24 am

Do they have acres of solar panels, to eke out enough power to run the heat pump?

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  JamesB_684
November 17, 2022 1:50 pm

And more to the point, can they get to them to get the snow off?

Lee Riffee
Reply to  ATheoK
November 16, 2022 8:36 pm

And then they can watch the little wheel in their electric meter spin like a buzz saw as their heat pump stops functioning once the temps drop into the 30’s and the electric resistance heat kicks on! And then they will be dreading their next electric bill….
Sorry, heat pumps (for heating) do not belong anywhere above, say, southern Virginia on the east coast. Corner-cutting home builders install them here in central Maryland all the time as they are cheaper because no gas lines, propane or oil tanks and necessary hookups are needed. But, then the buyer gets stuck with sky high winter electric bills, crappy equipment that barely lasts ten years (I have known several people with heat pumps and they never last as long as gas or oil heating systems) and worse yet – cold air blowing out of vents when it’s freaking freezing outside! IMO heat pumps shouldn’t even be called that when all they put out is cold air.

Reply to  Lee Riffee
November 17, 2022 10:15 am

heat pumps (for heating) do not belong anywhere above, say, southern Virginia on the east coast

I have a heat pump here in NC. The resistance heat kicks in and my bills would go way high for a good portion of the winter. That’s why I stock up on wood now.

Reply to  David Dibbell
November 16, 2022 6:51 pm

And you battery freezes and becomes useless forever

November 16, 2022 2:40 pm

Rising temperature in the Arctic and sub-arctic regions around the North Atlantic should be sounding alarm bells for the onset of glaciation.

Glaciation is an energy intensive process. It requires vast amounts of water to be liberated from the oceans and deposited on land.

As the Arctic waters warm, more surface is freed from ice and that results in more water in the atmosphere. That water will deposit as snow on any land less than 0C.

The Greenland plateau is already showing the signs of increasing snowfall with rising winter minimums meaning more latent heat transport from oceans being released to form snowfall. Attached shows how rapidly the minimum temperature is increasing over Greenland, directly related to increasing latent heat and increasing snowfall.

The mechanism is now observable as more heat goes into the temperate region of the North Atlantic and then transported northward by the Gulfstream to be released as latent heat over the northern land mass as snowfall.

There is a limit to the amount of snow that can be melted during any summer. The higher the latitude and elevation, the less that can be melted. So as snowfall increases due to rising temperature, it eventually accumulates. It accumulates from the top down and accelerates until the surrounding water ices over permanently.

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Ireneusz Palmowski
Reply to  RickWill
November 17, 2022 5:45 am

The blue curve shows the current and the light grey curve the previous season’s surface mass balance measured in gigatonnes (1 Gt is 1 billion tonnes and corresponds to 1 cubic kilometre of water).
The dark grey curve traces the mean value from the period 1981-2010.
The light grey band shows differences from year to year. For any calendar day, the band shows the range over the 30 years (in the period 1981-2010), however with the lowest and highest values for each day omitted.

Reply to  Ireneusz Palmowski
November 17, 2022 3:57 pm

Evaporate power in the expansive temperate region of the North Atlantic Ocean reached its minimum around J1400. So it has been warming for just 600 years but is continuing to accelerate and another 4000 years of acceleration before slowing down and reversing in 9000 years. By then the new ice mountains should have formed..

I doubt the 2022/23 high accumulation is representative of the actual rate of increase in the long run but it must increase in the coming centuries. 2022/23 is likely a result of the current La Nina.

Greenland will give humans an early glimpse of glaciation before the lower latitude mountains begin to accumulate again.

The amount of snow melting annually is highly dependent on Albedo. The poor air quality over Europe in the past couple of centuries may have increased the rate of ice melt so no multi year accumulation – yet.

Tim Gorman
November 16, 2022 2:48 pm

The Farmers Almanac has predicted a cold, snowy 2022/2023 winter for much of the US since it was published in Aug, 2021.

Why are they so good at predicting weather a year ahead of time when all the government agencies and climate scientists are so bad at it?

Reply to  Tim Gorman
November 16, 2022 3:16 pm

Why are they so good at predicting weather a year ahead of time when all the government agencies and climate scientists are so bad at it?

They are providing a useful service for farmers. Government agencies support the government agenda.

The current daytime temperature in Central Australia is unbelievable cold for this time of year. There is no national news coverage of this situation.,-23.92,973/loc=134.922,-23.628
But the story of 2019 when there were fires on the east coast at this time of year was thoroughly covered:,-23.92,973/loc=134.922,-23.628

Flooding now gets the front page and there is some reporters with long memories making a point that this is odd given that we were told the water that would fall would not make it into the dams so no more dams were built, being substituted at great cost with unused desalination plants and water recycling.

Reply to  Tim Gorman
November 16, 2022 3:58 pm

Private forecast services work better

Reply to  ResourceGuy
November 16, 2022 4:01 pm

So do the horses shedding patterns and times. We have been right more than not when watching them.

John Hultquist
Reply to  starzmom
November 16, 2022 8:00 pm

I had a horse that was white in the winter and shed all that to become a Palomino in the summer.

Reply to  John Hultquist
November 17, 2022 5:45 am

I bet she was beautiful This one is darker in the winter and when she sheds out in the spring, is a dappled bay for a few weeks, until she turns a golden brown. She is quite dark now with her hair standing on end to keep her warm.

Reply to  ResourceGuy
November 17, 2022 3:00 am

Private anything works better.

November 16, 2022 3:06 pm

We here in NE Ohio are quite familiar with the “lake effect” snowstorm. With that long westerly fetch over a warm Lake Erie, Buffalo is guaranteed to be buried. It will not come as any surprise, they get it at least once every winter.

Reply to  Robert
November 16, 2022 3:40 pm

And it is not even winter yet. More than a month to go. It could be a very long cold season for all of us in the US.

Reply to  starzmom
November 17, 2022 9:04 am

That area up in MI around Newaygo where I was at is apple orchard country and it was funny to see the apple trees with their leaves still on them, some of them still green, covered in snow.

Reply to  Robert
November 16, 2022 5:46 pm

For many years around Christmas time, some friends and I would drive from NE Ohio to Holiday Valley Ski Resort near Ellicottville, NY. They had an EV charger in the parking lot of the Inn at Holiday Valley where we stayed but it was almost never used. We had to drive through blinding snow storms around Erie PA or on I86 in New York several times. I never worried about my Subaru Forester not having the range to make the trip but I would never attempt that trip in an EV.

Reply to  Robert
November 16, 2022 6:06 pm

Buffalo is guaranteed to be buried. It will not come as any surprise, they get it at least once every winter”

Once a winter? Buffalo gets snow every day cold air wafts across the lake.
At least, until the lake freezes over.

George T
November 16, 2022 4:08 pm

We’ll see if heating oil and natural gas supplies hold up this winter.

Reply to  George T
November 16, 2022 4:33 pm

It seems very certain that the deliberate plan is for them not to hold up. Think about what Stalin did to the Ukraine in the 1930s, and that is what the globalists and Biden now have planned for us in the US. It’s going to be our choice whether to freeze or starve to death.

November 16, 2022 4:25 pm

I live in NE Connecticut and we had a slight dusting of snow last night which then turned into freezing rain. But it was enough to take our satellite dish out. Lucky I have Fubo and the internet.

Reply to  spren
November 16, 2022 6:41 pm

The snow we had on the 9th and 10th, about a foot, (see above) didn’t interfere with my Starlink internet.

It did mess with my Dish reception for the evening of the 10th,but by the 11th it was working again, even though it was still partially covered with snow.

Our storms come in from the south and southwest and the Starlink faces north. It is also heated.

I have been looking at getting a dish heater but we have had Dish network for 3 years and have rarely have an issue. We just go to streaming or DVR when it is out. A sunny day usually takes care of the ice or snow.

Steve Keohane
Reply to  Drake
November 17, 2022 6:22 am

I use a broom to clear my dish.

Geoffrey Williams
November 16, 2022 4:44 pm

Just more global warming and climate change . .

November 16, 2022 6:16 pm

I’ll fault this report for NOT covering Lakes Michigan and Huron. Superior is its own world tha t none of the climatists have any clue about. Anyway, I just drove 410 miles due south form Sault Ste.Marie, Michigan to Fort Wayne, Indiana. I went through multiple periods of white-out conditions and all of Northern Michigan, from the Bridge to Clare was snow covered. It actually was a winter wonderland postcard with all the trees totally covered in white.
White Christmas? Nope, White Thanksgiving….And maybe Easter…….

Reply to  Yooper
November 16, 2022 6:59 pm

I live in the Syracuse area that averages ten feet of snow in the winter. That is nothing compared to the Upper Peninsula.

November 16, 2022 6:33 pm

When the weather’s hot, it’s Global Warming. When it’s cold, it’s Climate Change.

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Hivemind
November 17, 2022 2:03 pm

When the weather is bad, it’s “climate change;” when the weather is good, all you’ll hear is crickets.

November 16, 2022 6:52 pm

I was a project manager for a large lake-effect snow project in the days when New York utilities were required to spend a significant percentage of their revenues on R&D. My utility covered both the Buffalo and Watertown areas so this would have had everyone wound up. I am glad we did not have to deal with a situation like this when I was working there.

If you want some more forecast details I recommend the NYS Buffalo forecast discussion:

This weekend I am going to watch the NYS Mesonet observing site for the Buffalo area and see how the solar panels handle the snow at 

According to the forecast discussion it sounds like the primary impacts will be further south so there might not be much of an impact. If you think that New York has a plan to discourage utility-scale solar development in the areas where lake effect snow like this is expected, then you under estimate how badly the state is planning ahead.

John Hultquist
Reply to  rogercaiazza
November 16, 2022 8:14 pm

I can get a site with:

but not what you gave. I guess the .&nbsp is trash.

John Hultquist
November 16, 2022 7:45 pm

My closest station is Ellensburg [KELN] and it quit at 11:40 am on the 16th.
That’s okay; nothing special going on.

Relatives live in areas that might be impacted but the winds are expected to flow parallel to the north coast of OHIO sparing the folks from deep amounts.
Weather is fun.

November 16, 2022 8:39 pm

Time will tell what happens throughout the winter months (December-March), but so far the cold season is starting off in a way somewhat similar to the 2000-2001 winter, which was also during multi-year La Niña. It was brutally cold in CONUS.

Ireneusz Palmowski
November 17, 2022 1:08 am

A stationary low centered over Manitoba is producing secondary lows that will reach the Great Lakes and cause snowfall. Arctic-continental air from over Canada, dry and very cold, reaches the central part of the US. There is no change in the longer forecast.
Circulation in the polar vortex indicates a further influx of a waves of Arctic air into the US from over eastern Siberia over Alaska.
The pattern of the polar vortex also indicates a Russian frost in Europe.
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November 17, 2022 3:45 am

Lake effect is some crazy stuff. Several winters ago this trucker had delivered Nestle’s waste product to a recycling outfit in East Palestine, OH (East of Canton very near the PA border).

After taking a 10 hour break at the recycle facility I was dispatched to pick up high temperature insulation at Unifrax corporation on Fire Tower Road in Tonawanda, NY which is the NE portion of the greater Buffalo metro area.

I headed east and took I-79 N up to Erie, PA intending to run the I-90 NY throughway up to Buffalo. On I-79 a jumbotron south of Erie said I-90 was closed at Hamburg.

All of the SE portion of Buffalo was under a snow emergency. Drivers on the throughway ended up stranded 18 hours or more. Lackawanna was completely shut down. The snow and been dumped on them so quickly the plows just could not keep up and the traffic backed up and snow bound in both lanes made it impossible for the plows to get through. It was a total mess.

So at Erie I took I-86 east and then took US 219 North. My intention was to go as far East as necessary to catch an open road going North and then come into Tonawanda from the East or even North if necessary.

I had to get off of US 219 and take US 20 which went east and then north and then cut back west on NY 400 to catch I-90 to I-190. I still ran through areas that had gotten some deep snow but they had been plowed. The road signs on US 20 were unreadable due to the sticky snow covering the faces of the signs.

But when I backed into the dock at Unifrax there was not a flake of snow in the air or on the ground. Eight miles as the crow flies to the SW at Lackawanna they were still shut down and in a snow emergency. Five miles to the SSE there was snow three feet deep.

It took some time but I-90 westbound was open so I took it heading back to the Anderson, IN terminal. I backed into a parking spot at the Flying J truck stop off I-90 in Austinburg, OH that night to take my break because I didn’t have the hours to make it past the Cleavland area. I was bushed. It was snowing and promised to come down harder. I got Meat Loaf, mashed potatoes and gravy, and green beans from under the glass at the truck stop. Their meat loaf is really pretty darn good!

I than pulled the curtains and went to sleep. About two hours later my phone rang. It was a blond ditz 2nd shift dispatcher from the Anderson terminal asking why I had stopped and if I had some problem. She hadn’t bothered to check my hours before calling and waking me up and obviously didn’t know a thing about the snow. That kind of thing drives drivers crazy. I patently explained to her to always check a drivers hours before calling them. I explained that if I were a dick I could by law, restart my 10 hour break because she had illegally interrupted it. Then I explained about the snow. I was too tired to get worked up too much and besides after a while driver builds up scar tissue and it doesn’t hurt so much when they get a lashing from inexperienced kids behind computers.

That young blond that woke me up then is now a trouble shooter for dispatch and is sent to new terminals to get their operations going or existing terminals that are having difficulties for whatever reason. She is very competent and we are good friends having worked together many times since those days when she was still wet behind the ears. But it always the drivers that take the brunt of it while they learn their trade. Just the nature of the beast.

Reply to  rah
November 17, 2022 4:22 am

Correction. all of the SW portion of the Buffalo area was under a snow emergency.

Ireneusz Palmowski
Reply to  rah
November 17, 2022 5:56 am

Currently, the heaviest precipitation in Michigan, with temperatures of -2 C.

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Reply to  Ireneusz Palmowski
November 17, 2022 6:24 am

I just came from there. Spent Tuesday night in the shippers lot at MAGNA in Newaygo. Woke up to a winter wonderland. About 4″ of snow during the night but it was that heavy wet stuff that sticks to the trees and weighs down the pine boughs. Betiful.

After getting loaded there I went west to Port city casting on the north side of Muskegon. From there I went to my final pickup at DENSO in Battle Creek.

Driving back down to the Vandalia, OH terminal (Right by the Dayton Airport) I ran through snow squalls some of them pretty heavy with enough wind to feel it but all brief.

At the Vandalia terminal I dropped the loaded trailer and hooked and empty and headed home to the Anderson, IN terminal. Had a tire problem with the empty trailer I brought back and took it into the express bay at the garage.

While the mechanic worked that problem I went to parts and got two sets of heavy duty winter windshield wiper blades. I put on set on and put the spare set in the passenger side tool box. After dropping the trailer in the out of service line and fueling the truck and parking it I drove the 15 minutes home.

When I got home my wife had a fire going in the insert and a freshly baked coffee cake. A glass of chocolate milk, a piece of coffee cake, build up the fire in the insert and it was off to bed. I was asleep almost as soon as my head hit the pillow.


Tom Abbott
November 17, 2022 4:25 am

When is all that predicted CO2 warming going to kick in?

Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 17, 2022 5:18 am

Not before Hell freezes over!

Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 17, 2022 9:29 am

Anyway, if there is snow or bad driving conditions you can be sure that sooner or later this salary driver will be heading into it because some regular woos driver called off because he or she is afraid of the conditions. That too, is the nature of the beast.

Last winter I went up to Chicago to do milk runs on the two days they had their worst weather of that winter. Nothing like standing on the steer tire of your truck pulled off of I-294 changing a windshield wiper in the snow because the ice that had built up on the bottom of the windshield had busted the little plastic retainer clip.

That night, running out of hours and with all the truckstops and rest areas cleared I pulled off on the wide shoulder of the entrance ramp to I-65 at the Valparaiso exit to take my break since I was out of hours. Within a 1/2 hr a State trooper came along and ran me off. It pissed me off so bad I said the heck with it and drove the 100 miles back to the terminal despite not having the hours. It was an 18 hour day but I slept in my own bed.

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The Doctor
November 17, 2022 5:59 am

And yet November 2022 will be declared “the warmest November on record”.

Barnes Moore
November 17, 2022 6:04 am

Frankly, I hope this cold front moves on to New England, especially states like MA where the population is full of true believers. I feel sorry for those living there who don’t subscribe to the lie of AGW and the lunacy of unreliables, but they are in the minority. I doubt that the true believers will ever wake up, however. This may sound cruel and heartless, but the damage these idiots are willing to inflict on everyone else needs to be inflicted on them in spades.

Reply to  Barnes Moore
November 17, 2022 6:35 am

I went into Boston to pickup a load north of Logan Airport and East of the Bunker Hill Monument the morning after they had their heaviest snow on record. It was an adventure. Going in I was idling along behind pedestrians walking down the road because the snow was plowed high on the sidewalks. Coming out was no better. Cars illegally parked on both sides of the road because plowed snow filled the parking spaces made for some tight squeezes.

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Barnes Moore
November 17, 2022 7:08 pm

I hear you. The true believers need a regular dose of cold to go with the Dimbulbcrats’ war-on-fossil-fuels created heating fuel shortage to give them a good slap in the face.

November 17, 2022 6:30 am

Go green, then Blue, then Green, then green, then blue.

That said, make the yuletide gay and frosty.

November 17, 2022 11:55 am

I just stocked up the ring type log rack. When full as it is now, it will hold enough for 3 days continuous burning at maximum level.

November 17, 2022 5:44 pm
Pat from Kerbob
Reply to  rah
November 17, 2022 5:49 pm

I heard only 3’ prediction
Moved football game

Ireneusz Palmowski
Reply to  rah
November 17, 2022 11:14 pm

The front pulls all the moisture from Lake Erie to Buffalo.
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Joel O’Bryan
November 17, 2022 10:14 pm

Saw this coming 2 weeks ago at NOAA CPC forecast webpage.
Global warming is cooling, if you didn’t know.

Ireneusz Palmowski
November 18, 2022 2:41 am

“Extremely heavy lake-effect snow continues to fall in Buffalo’s southern suburbs Friday morning, with whiteout conditions and snowfall rates exceeding 3 inches per hour in spots such as West SenecaEast Aurora and Dunkirk, New York. This snow band will remain over the same general region, though could wobble northward into downtown Buffalo later in the day, AccuWeather forecasters caution. The National Weather Service heavily cautioned against travel within this band of snow, stating that travel would be impossible as heavy snow fell.”

November 18, 2022 8:47 am

I’ve seen Ice rRoad Truckers
that picture still looks beautiful. Assuming you’re out there dressed properly or inside looking out?
Not trudging through it having abandoned your tank and looking for hospitality /shelter with the local villagers whom you’ve been shooting at for months…

Ireneusz Palmowski
November 18, 2022 10:29 am
John the Econ
November 18, 2022 3:30 pm

Was below zero this morning when I woke up. A few decades ago, the smart people told me that I’d still be growing tomatoes until Christmas.

November 18, 2022 5:26 pm

Wow! Orchard Park NY is less than 24 hours into this, and they are closing in on six feet, at the rate of 7 inches an hour of snowfall now. I lived there for five years in the early 80s, just to the south, at the foot oh Chestnut Ridge Park.

The snow is usually low water content and tends to settle during wind storms. I put roof studs on 8 inch centers rather than 24 inch, so such snows would not crush my house. The winter lightning was something else; scared the living shit out of me more than once. One blew up my chimney and fire-place, destroying my washer, dryer,TV and my furnace before making a small glass-lined hole in my basement concrete floor. As it was 10F / -12C at the time, the furnace had to be attended to right away, thick snow or not. Another time, winter lightning blew my big willow tree to bits.

About measuring such low density snows, I gave up on the huge amounts every few hours. I just measured the change in total snow pack depth every 24 hours. Still, tonight’s storm is really breath-taking. There will be plenty of work trying to get out from under neath that!

Reply to  EOM
November 18, 2022 11:00 pm

Driven by that stadium many a time. Have a shipper almost within sight of it.

Reply to  EOM
November 18, 2022 11:23 pm

That is one thing I really like about my house. The original part was built in 1943 and the rafters are real 2″ x 10″. High quality spruce lumber from back when a 2 x 4 actually measured 2″ x 4″.

Geoffrey Williams
November 18, 2022 10:51 pm

One day you’re basking in climate change, the next you’re freezing your nuts off . .

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