First, don’t panic – we are going to make this easy. Starting About November 7th/8th, commenting on WUWT will require you to be a registered user. Read on for the hows and whys.
For over 15 years, WUWT has been open to commenting by anyone. That had both good and bad aspects to it.
The good was obvious – anyone could immediately comment by simply placing their email address and name/handle into the comment box. The first comment required approval, after that comments went unfettered provided the commenter didn’t use any of the prohibited words or phrases that most platforms already flag as inappropriate.
The bad was not so obvious – and appeared mostly behind the scenes at the moderation level. Through the years we have fought with some nefarious people hell-bent on disrupting this forum doing things like using fake email addresses, spoofing other identities to get past moderation, (in particular, one well-known climate troll from Oregon has been caught and warned dozens of times, and is banned), and then we have the “bots” – which are getting worse daily.
A recent WUWT article noted this:
We are being spammed by an extremely clever and aggressive spambot.
The bot uses several techniques to spoof users but is trying a new one today.
Then there’s Twitter, which has millions of “bots” estimated to be somewhere between 5% (according to Pre-Elon Twitter) and as much as 20% by other estimates.
How many bots do we have on WUWT? Well, there could be dozens to hundreds. Some people, like “griff” act like bots, where they throw up some cryptic or inane comment, and then never respond to replies to it. But, we don’t really know a total bot count.
What we do know, is that it is getting worse, and as the climate alarmist establishment gets even more zealous, trying to make people believe there is a “climate crisis”, our workload to weed out false commentary from bots and other fakes has increased significantly.
When I started WUWT in 2006 the Internet was a different entity. Now, it’s a climate war zone, and we have to harden the fort against daily attacks. I’ll point out that almost any other website today that has user interaction requires registration – we are just late to the party.
As I first said, “we are going to make this easy.” Here’s how.
We have a process by which we are going to use some automation assistance to help our valid pre-existing users get registered. I don’t want to give the details, because that will tip our hand to the bots and the bullies. Let’s just say, you’ll be hearing more soon.
For reference, here are some WUWT statistics as of this writing:
- 475,929,091 Views
- 28,652 Posts
- 3,490,060 Comments
Thanks to all of you for making WUWT the most-viewed (and likely most-commented) climate related website in the world.
-Anthony
UPDATE: Some folks have jumped to erroneous conclusions about what registration here will require.
All that will be required is two items you supply now – a name/handle and and email address, and additionally, a password of your choosing.
Passwords are encrytped – only you will know it. – Anthony
I will be happy to comply…you have an important site that needs to be reposted.
The registry will be handed over to the climate police and soon we’ll be rounded up, employment terminated, irs audits, etc
I sure hope not.
Willing to take that risk, meiggs, to ensure that the truth gets out there. If only half the population of the country is skeptical about the AGW…ahh ACC ruling class narrative they are going to have a helluva time rounding up more than a 150 million people.
They can’t control the southern border for cripe sake and that is only a 20 percent of 150 mil and most of the 20% are skeptics themselves because they have been living with global warming and know its about latitude not CO2.
And most of the 20%, while appreciating the pretty snow, would definitely prefer the world to be warmer.
That why I moved to Arizona from North Dakota. Yes I like warmer.
LOL. I live in NE Arizona get cold and snow every winter. Of course not as bad as ND.
I’ll just use my real name: Fakey McFakerson
‘They’ have no desire to control the Southern border.
You are probably right. The registry will be taken whether Antony wants that or not.
But so what?
You either stand up in the Climate wars and take the risk or you let them win.
Not bothered about any climate police . If they are as efficient in the UK about this as they are about other “crimes” then noone has anything to fear from their institutional incompetence . That is why i have never used anything but my real name on this or other sceptic sites. In fact I want TPTB to know how much i despise them.
aieo… I actually use the same internet name I’ve used for 30 years now because back when I started you weren’t allowed to use your real name!
Prjiu,
I don’t recall that.
Ever since I commented on the first blog, I have used my real name and only my real name. Nobody told me I had to invent a user name, or else.
Interestingly, I wrote a few hundred letters to the editor, most were punblished, 1980-2000 era before blogging, but I chose to use a pseudonym. Despite that, we received death threats then, had our car released to roll down the driveway hill into the house, had a device looking like a bomb put on our outsise barbeque table, more more.
It takes a bit of guts to call out the nonsense, but it has to be done.
Geoff S
They can be fantastically efficient when they want to be.
The northeastern US has more than their share of climate fanatics, however they may have a Winter this year with a shortage of petroleum distillates. In other words, heating oil shortages. I doubt that they have sufficient natural gas capacity to make up for the shortage of heating oil. The direct cause of these shortages is the policies of certain state governments in their vain efforts to change the average temperature 100 years in the future.
Should we have massive deaths this winter from fossil fuel shortages, the climate fanatics could find that their thinking is no longer in the mainstream.
Do you have a family depending on you?
Only alternative seems to be to hand knit a yak wool yurt and pitch it out in the woods in West Wales.
Good Luck!
I don’t use my real name here because I don’t want my non-consenscus, politically hetetodox opinions to affect my career. It’s a big deal. I don’t want to be canceled. I need to earn a living. Being doxed is a serious threat.
My field, software architecture and engineering, is full of climate Nazis.
If you’ve commented here, or any of thousands of places on the internet, you’re already on a government list somewhere.
I’m probably on a dozen.
This is certainly true.
reminds me about the freaks who think the government making a firearms owner list is a terrifying overreach and a violation of their…. oh, since 1938? Hmmm…
But never have government’s been so keen to sic the FBI/RCMP, IRS/CRA etc on political opponents – even social media posts have been used to fire people.
Or maybe a hundred
I’m less concerned about the government than the militant snowflakes at Google, Facebook, Amazon, etc., etc.
OTH, with the Brandon regime, is there any difference between big tech and big government?
the regime has a descriptive political name – it begins with f and is the name they desperately call their opponents. Per Orwell, the language and meaning of words has been/is being hi-jacked by the left. I noticed last night that brandon was redefinind democracy; It is no longer to be a form of government but a philosophy.
Yeah, your papers please, says the climatic officerl
That is for sure.
I have seen my name written up on Desmog Blog, and boy did they dislike me and everything I had to say.
I was never more proud in my life.
Oooooooo……A conspiracy theorist is amongst us.
Not a conspiracy theory at all. Every message sent over every network is collected and stored by the government.
Certainly by the Chinese government
If you were Chinese and saw Biden elected as the leader of the free world wouldn’t you be like……YAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
All the enemies of the United States were celebrating the “election” of Joe Biden.
I feel for the Air Force Guy that carries the football.
Probably tired of hearing “Hut, Hut, Hike!”
Putin would have much preferred Trump remain in power.
That’s why he waited until he was gone to invade Ukraine, right?
OMG, they’re coming to get us all for expressing an opinion on tomorrows weather. Forget the porn, Jan 6th, political comments, watching subversive Rumble videos, it’s all about climate change.
Jesus folks, get out your own asses.
If this were a counter culture blog devoted to political subversion it would have been shut down long ago and we would all have been hunted down.
As it is I have been on here for probably 15 years and am yet to have my house raided.
I’ve lost a job because of my climate skepticism.
Also in today’s political climate, you don’t have to fear the government, when the woke demand your firing, few managers have the fortitude to stand up to them.
Mark,
I am really sorry to hear that. Seems outrageous that this was even possible. I hope you’re in a better position now.
I don’t use my full name here so as I don’t miss out on contracts.
Not so important at the moment but it has been.
Having WUWT appear on an internet search does not help. Who wants the hassle of employing someone whom others will feel empowered to vocally disagree with?
by law in aus servers hold info and too much as proved by data thefts recently
Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean people aren’t out to get you.
‘one great thing about being a conspiracy theorist … I don’t have myocarditis!’
That would be a worry, except we’ve probably all been rounded up already and the list sent to the appropriate authorities.
Eh, they’ve been able to find me anytime they want. So far, I’ve seen as many jackboots as I’ve seen Exxon checks.
(Now, the fact that I live in a Second Amendment country, and a Constitutional Carry State, might have something to do with that.)
No problem. We’ll simply start a move to defund the Climate Police, and stage a mostly peaceful protest down at the pub.
They can easily find me. Just look for the “THERE IS NO CLIMATE CRISIS” sticker on my Explorer.
I want one!
The problem with that is the gutless wonders without impulse control and their car keys.
Relax, ‘meiggs’ (if that is your real name). The site already captures your email, unless you lie, and that means there’s a list going way back. If the ‘climate police’ wanted it, they’d already have it, and I assume they do. That’s why I’ve never bothered to use a handle for my posts. I for one will be happy to register, if it cuts down the bots and takes workload off of moderators
Horse excrement. Isn’t your bridge missing its troll?
Yeah, or not.
What is for sure is that eventually, everyone who has their name publicly attached to this travesty of fake science and public money misappropriation, will live forever in the annals of recorded history as either a pure fool, a gullible dupe, or a criminally culpable co-conspirator in the largest and most damaging confidence racket ever conceived.
What if Willis is a bot ? LOL
He’s not. After my first comment to him he pulled my info (off of this site?) and researched me.
At first he confused me with a third cousin (with the same name) that I have never met. This cousin appears to be pretty far out on the left spectrum.
In his response to me he ‘threatened’ to out me, through my cousin (or some such crap).
Anyway, it is not just the climate police that may come for you … it might just be someone that craves attention & can’t handle scorn.
A lot of those about.
I don’t know where else to post this … I got this article on my phone this morning:
Throwing mashed potatoes at a Monet may save the planet:
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/climate-activists-throwing-food-at-paintings-could-save-the-planet-rcna54415
The author Brian Kateman is just the latest activist kook to think he knows something important to say about climate.
During much of this year I have not made any comments, so I am now commenting so that WUWT will be sure to register me.
Sounds good considering the Russian agents and organized climate con teams about. Their phase choices and timing like when undersea pipelines are exploding are fairly easy to spot, but some registration would help stem the shock troops.
Obviously if you have information not available to the German, Swedish and Danish investigation teams about the pipeline sabotage then it would be well worth contacting them about it. If you just want a forum for unwarranted speculation then have you considered standing on a box outside your local bus or train station and haranguing people there?
the information is available. On many places I frequent the ratio of (political) trolls to genuine commenters is greater than 50%. More than a few who used to be climate activists are now Kremlin apologists…
FFS. Get out the 1960’s and into the real world. Why are you so terrified of Russia?
It has half the US population, one tenth of it’s technology (at best) and has somehow ground the world to a halt by sending 160,000 soldiers into a nondescript, flat broke, corrupt, small, eastern European country.
The global response is on a par with the privations of WW2 when the civilised west fought the evils of Nazi Germany and Japan across the whole of Europe and much of Asia.
And that’s before it ‘blew up’ its own gas pipeline it derived enormous profit from and was its major bargaining chip.
But you don’t smell a rat.
I’ll not take sides in this little kerfuffle except … (there’s always an exception)
Don’t mean to say Putin did blow them up, only that it’s as plausible as any other likely suspect.
Blow up your own gas income. LOL
Biden threatened nukes, Putin responded saying he would respond in kind.
Like no one in Russia has ever been jabbed by a radiation tipped umbrella by a CIA/MI6 agent. We just don’t hear about it. Wasn’t that during cold war USSR times anyway?
Move on FFS.
You have no evidence it happened, but you are sure it did.
It would only cost a few million to fix the damaged pipelines, if that much. Putin has got many times more value out of the propaganda over those explosions.
Putin has been threatening the use of nukes for months.
And you have no evidence either…that is the beauty of propaganda. The US is the best at it.
Is that what Putin told you to say?
You are almost getting into Simon esque territory with your fixation with Russia 🙂
You’re right, it wouldn’t cost so very much to repair the pipelines would it? Except that all requests by Gazprom to repair them have been blocked, I wonder why?
Munchausen by Poxy (not proxy, just diseased mind)
What gas income. The pipelines were shut down at the time.
Who said anyone is terrified of Russia. Saying that they need to be opposed in their territorial aggression is not being terrified, just smart.
Like most bullies, Putin will not stop until someone stops him. Better to stop him now in the Ukraine, rather then later in Poland or western Europe.
It would have made a huge difference if US just accepted Russia’s request to join Nato in 2000, and not stirring up (and financing) the coup in 2014.
Anyway, their climate data set is more trustworthy than Nato’s (read: US’) empty promise to not expand to the East. Putin did warn already since 2008 that Ukraine will be not Nato member, like Biden warned already there will be no NorthStream anymore if Russia invades.
We should focus on climate wars, not war climate.
Well, the Ukraine civil war is now eight years old. We all know, as it’s been on the telly lots of times,(I’ve watched the war a few times on ordinary TV) that the Ukraine Government has been shelling the Russian East of Ukraine killing over 14,500 fellow Ukrainians with USA made weapons.(Yes, they do speak Russian not Ukrainian) The sad thing is these facts are now hidden and all people can see through our media is Russia bad, Ukraine good. If the war started in 2022 instead of 2014 then you may have a point but it didn’t.
I should put AnthonyC not Anthony(no I don’t run the site lol)
At what point do appeasers draw the line when it comes to murderous dictators? I don’t think they ever draw a line. Their approach is to hope the problem goes away without them having to draw a line in the sand.
My question to Tucker Carlson, and those who see the world the way he does, is when do you say to Putin: “This far, and no farther, Mr. Putin.” Where is that line for you, Tucker?
If history is a guide, they will continue appeasing until the guns are aimed at them.
The world has been ground to a halt as a result of delusional decisions by Western political leaders in an effort to regulate CO2, when there is no evidence that CO2 needs regulation. Depending on Putin for natural gas was one of those delusional decisions. Regulating CO2 and becoming dependent on Putin’s natural gas were both totally unnecessary.
Come on, man. The US has had peaceful protestors imprisoned without trial for 22 months, yet we still cling to supposed moral superiority over the Russians. The lines are definitely starting to blur.
100%!!!
I don’t believe the Biden regime is competent to pull it off. More importantly, Joe Biden is on record as opposing the bin Laden raid for fear of political blowback should it have failed.
Now it is possible the pipeline bombing was a Russian false flag, but how would Putin benefit? Ask yourself, who benefits and who had means, motive and opportunity? It’s hard to see Russia benefiting.
Nobody has raised the possibility of non-state actors. The climate activists are bankrolled by billionaires. Perhaps climate radicals want to force Europe away from natural gas?
How would Putin benefit from blowing up his own pipeline. By having his lackeys blame the US for it.
That is not a benefit. That is a tactic. How does it benefit Putin to destroy his means of selling natural gas to Europe? Does it give him more leverage in settling his Ukrainian war debacle is his favor, or does it give him less?
I’m not saying Russia didn’t sabotage the pipeline, I’m wondering how it could work in Russia’s favor. A Russian false flag operation, that is, Russian forces destroying the pipeline and blaming Russia’s enemies, is possible. But it’s a greatly miscalculated move as it did not rally Russians to the cause or win other nations to Russia’s side.
IMO, the pipeline gave Russia leverage to coerce Ukraine’s allies to force a negotiated peace.
The pipeline wasn’t pushing oil, so no return on investment. With the explosion, Putin gets to collect the insurance money amd likely finish repairs before flow would be approved again anyway.
It has nukes, it has soldiers and it is willing to invade countries to get what Putin wants.
Why do you have to assign negative emotions to those who have different views from you.
Being wary of Putin is not fear, it is just acting intelligently.
WWII also started as a minor kerfluffle that most people wanted to ignore.
The Nazi invasion of Poland was a minor kerfuffle?
In 1939 it pretty much was as minor a kerfuffle as the 2022 invasion of Ukraine is today. All the reasons Putin apologists spout for why other nations should not care about Russia’s invasion of Ukraine could equally have been stated about Germany’s invasion of Poland at the time. And remember, it’s not just about this “minor kerfuffle”, this is just the latest “minor kerfuffle” in a long series of “minor kerfuffles” that Putin has been responsible for. How many countries does Putin have to invade before other nations are allowed to care and stand against his unwarranted aggression? Because for Putin apologists, it seems, he can invade as many as he wants and other nations should just shut up and let him.
“A nondescript, flat broke, corrupt, small, eastern European country” – the people of Ukraine won’t share your view.
Putin is an ex-KGB tyrant who is responsible for the murder of thousands of people who just wanted a normal life. He has brought destruction on a huge scale to the cities of Ukraine.
My own family was scarred by the Russian communists when they invaded the Baltic States prior to WWII, with a family member arrested and executed (murdered) on trumped-up charges as an ‘enemy of the state’.
This is the reality of the sort of person in charge of Russia.
Were you a Ukrainan, you might have a different view of matters.
I think you need to write that better…
roflmao the russians are NOT the ones I worry about.
usa mainlands far more a worry to me
This from the guy who thinks that government should be running everything.
You agree with Putin and want the USSR to be restored.
Hmm, are there any Greenpeace ships in the Baltic?
That’s not a big deal to me. I have no issue doing that.
Just a few words to express my deep gratitude for the work you are doing. Although I rarely comment, I read almost every post and many of the comments in the posts as well. I’ve learned so much here and keep up your wonderful website.
Ditto
And I second that! Let me know when to register.
ditto
Ditto.
(That word brings back memories of a popular radio commentator.)
Dittos – from a ditto-head.
ditto
Seconded.
Unlike any site on the pro-CAGW side, WUWT allows alarmist shills like Nick Stokes and Griff to comment freely with no fear of censorship or banishment, and is all the stronger for it.
I’d register today if it were an early option.
Anything to make Bots and Spammers diminish.
Not that I have anything against Spam…yum
Fried with onions
And served on steamed rice; a staple of an ex-girlfriend of mine. I’m a salt fiend, so it’s the perfect snack! Although, we went for Prem, the Canadian equivalent. Could that be a thing: Prem-bots? I’m tired of getting Premmed!? My Prem folder is full again?
Klik bait.
Yuk.
If you slice SPAM very thin and fry it up so the edges get burnt, it tastes just like bacon.
Nah.
Everything that hasn’t got its own established taste “tastes like CHICKEN”.
Enough!
Foghorn Leghorn will get offended.
If you slice SPAM very thin, coat it in a batter made of flour, salt and pepper and maybe some beer, and then fry it you get spam fritters.
Brings back memories of school dinners.
Only meat we had left on the boat at one time, so wasn’t bad Stir-Fried either.
I was brought up in an orphanage in the ’50s and spam fritters were well liked – second only to jam (jelly) sandwich fritters!
Funny how memories haunt….
But to be “fair,” there must also be an option for Vegans.
Are meals comprised of crickets considered vegan?
If you ask that question of Bill Gates, all you’ll hear is ‘crickets.
Fried Spam fritters…. (slices of Spam dipped in batter then fried)
Was a regular thing when I was in my teens…
I remember them being quite yummy.
Me young in High School. After school job – retail outlet, my boss a D+7 veteran France. He spoke of ‘spam like-fritters’, K ration meat/like spam fried in mess kit on tractor/equipment exhaust manifold. “fritted around the pan” he explained. I tried later on, tasted just like hot spam
Anthony, thanks to you, Charles, and others who work tirelessly to bring climate truth to the world. Your website is sorely needed. It’s sad that this step must be taken, but I agree it’s necessary. I have no problem registering.
Thanks for persevering. Hope this makes your important work easier and more effective.
Anthony, this will be a small price to pay to be actively involved in your excellent site. Thank you for your years of commitment to the truth.
The very fact that the mention of the WUWT name causes derision from the alamists is enough justification for me. No problem in complying, and thanks for your wonderful work in attempting to point out the truth to the scientifically-illiterate politicians, etc.!
WUWT is routinely highly regarded and recommended on all the genuine free speech and freedom platforms that I haunt.
Not derision from Alarmists, rather fear and hatred.
I’m assuming a valid WordPress login will do?
No, but you will probably be grandfathered in anyway.
Was wondering about a “grandfather” situation; glad to see you mentioning its existence. Been commenting at WUWT since 2010 under just 2 email addresses, the 2nd being a less corporate-looking one that might not trigger as many junk mail labels for it.
But Griff’s been here a few years now too…
Is the test going to be whether you remember the Antarctic CO2 question?
Griff is entitled to comment here.
He will just have to register or be grandfathered like everyone else.
It’ll be interesting to see what happens to twitter and the bots now that Musk is the chief twit. Hope the registration works to keep them down here.
I LOVED Musk’s tweet about “chief twit”… Great to have someone in charge that has a genuine sense of humor.
He has also stated that Twitter employees will now be called Twits instead of Tweeps as they were previously. About time 🙂
Not a problem for me. Gladly comply. I’ve enjoyed reading and commenting for a while, so I’ll stay on board.
“widely distributed and flashy”. And for a darn good reason. It is truth to power. Keep it up.
Like drug use? May not be back.
I have both a WordPress and a Disqus comment account, but if you create a new unique one just for here, I will cheerfully register.
Just let us know how to make this great site better
It can be made “safer” but it’s already one of the best.
Anthony: Although you are as you put it:”late to the party” it appears registration is needed. It will slow the bots down some but, they will never go away, Those of us that regularly comment here will appreciate a lessening of the mayhem.Carry on good sir.
Ok, I’ll admit, my email address is fake.
As long as your commenting is real…
Likewise – even way back when I first commented here, I avoided providing valid email addresses to any registration process. In the corporate world, you know that no matter the promises/good intentions of the present owners/operators, some future owner may decide to use the information in other ways.
Some future court order, some future hacker, some future regulator, will get hold of the information.
So this may be the last for me although I will continue to read.
So as my potentially last comment, I will repeat my usual “What about properly calculated margins of error?”
Many internet providers offer you up to a dozen email addresses. I had an acquaintance who would take one of these addresses and use it for all of his registrations. The key is he never used this address for anything other than registrations and never bothered monitoring it.
Thanks for all the hard and quality work Anthony.
‘How many bots do we have on WUWT? Well, there could be dozens to hundreds. Some people, like “griff” act like bots, where they throw up some cryptic or inane comment, and then never respond to replies to it. ‘
no I don’t… but my time is limited and I’m in a different time zone – and you know quite well you moderate my comments and they are delayed appearing.
By the time my comment appears and it gets to the time of day I’m free to comment, the discussion frequently has moved on and commenting on something many items and a day down the list often isn’t worth it.
Not to mention 95% of all replies I get are just insults and not genuine debate.
I see the spam problem on many sites… but if you want to restrict comment which doesn’t fit in the echo chamber, go right ahead. It is your site.
Oh, you’ll still be able to post those inane and fact-free comments, but like everyone else Ed, you’ll have to register.
I would miss Griff if he were to be banished to the nether regions of cyberspace
Me, too. He often provides comic relief!
I hope we won’t need to sign in each time we comment. Vukkle has that feature and it deters anyone from commenting as much as they would like.
I have never thought Griff a bot but its true he rarely responds to genuine information presented to him refuting his case, but having said that he does get a lot of abuse.
Over the years we have sadly lost some of the better informed AGW supporters with the exception of Nick Stokes. It would be a shame to lose people like Griff, otherwise we all end up singing from the same Hymn sheet
That will likely depend on your browser settings. If you no trouble elsewhere, you probably won’t have trouble here.
Steve Mosher drives by from time to time, although recently his comments have been less cryptic. I doubt that he is a bot.
Since I have had lunch and dinner with him, I can assure you he is not a bot.
Yeah, is real and not so bad a fellow either.
Did you meet under his bridge?
About 200 yards from one actually.
Ouch!
Bot-tom feeder perhaps?
Not fair! I’m sure he’s delightful in the flesh.
We get into plenty of dog fights, even without griff.
Putin: Saint or Sinner
Does the GHG effect exist
etc
Why would anyone debate if Putin is a saint or a sinner?
He’s no more a saint or a sinner than any other national leader.
So, swap Reagan and Putin and both countries would still do the same thing?
No other world leader has spent the last decade or so invading his neighbors. Outside of Saddam Hussein, no other world leader has ordered more political opponents jailed and killed.
Aren’t there several hundred people still in jail for protesting on 6th January 2021? Biden just needs time to catch up. Did he have no options and the military folks killed in the Afghanistan fiasco aren’t blood on his hands?
Obama didn’t invade, he just sent hundreds of done strikes, some at people who supposedly were citizens of the usa.
When commies were ‘getting too close to us’ (usa) in the 80s, wasn’t there iran-contra? If it had been Mexico instead of Nicaragua?
So when a western- backed political coup lead by the cia subverts and overthrows the Russian- friendly leadership of Ukraine, putin did not stand by. This was on his doorstep.
He did not start the aggression, he responded. Decisively.
Pol pot, mao, uncle Joe? Putin is a rookie
In 1991, Ukraine had a referendum on whether to be an independent nation or join the new Russian Federation. Here are the percentage of independence votes.
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Sorry, won’t show the graph. Every part of the country voted more than 80 percent for independence, except Crimea. Even there, the majority wanted it. But of course, the Putin is sinned against narrative also runs against the inconvenient fact that Ukrainians are fighting his invasion like crazy.
They also had one in 2022 which supersedes the 1991 referendum. The result was similarly overwhelming, just in the other direction.
Do you honestly believe that 98% of the people voted to join Russia? Are you that desperate for this issue to go away?
Have you seen the Clinton deceased friends list?
One must watch what he wishes for….Despot Saddam “disappeared” about 800 political dissidents. However on his demise, the power vacuum led to civil unrest and military intervention in which many thousands of civilians lost their lives. Not unlike previous despots like Marshall Tito, whose death in 1980 resulted in civil war in Yugoslavia with tens of thousands of deaths despite UN peacekeeping missions….
Certainly a couple of true, if uncomfortable, observations.
I for one have never advocated “taking out” Putin. Just containing his military adventures.
Reagan is dead… or was that your intent? In addition, you may have noticed that the U.S. government agencies have done considerable ‘invading’.
Putin is a war criminal and a mass murderer of innocent men, women and children.
Western Ukraine has waged war against eastern Ukraine since 2014 and killed 14,000 people, but that goes unmentioned by you.
If Putin is a mass murderer what do you describe Zelensky and his predecessor as?
Zelensky has turned down every offer of peace talks by Russia and invited none himself.
I daresay your accusation of mass murder could be levelled against NATO forces in Iraq and Afghanistan where over one million people have died due to the conflict, precipitated by false accusations of WMD’s.
Frankly the best people can muster against leaders who don’t toe the western line is to accuse them of everything the west has done many times over.
I will say before I go, thankyou for your continued and principled support for Ukraine.
Actually, I think Griff performs a useful service by letting us know what inane arguments the climate hysterics think support their plans for dismantling industrial civilization. You need to know what the other side thinks to be able to effectively present evidence that they’re nuts.
Oh, and I have no problem registering. Appreciate WUWT and have read it daily since 2008.
Griff is definitely “the gift that keeps on giving.”
The grift that keeps on giving.
That is my primary reason for listening to NPR regularly. It is good to know what progressives are telling each other.
About two minutes of radical left wing programming is about all I can stand at one time.
I have a wall for that, against which I can endlessly bounce a tennis ball. It’s a very educated wall.
I have to confess curiosity about the time zones on the moon.The Dark Side of the moon.
For example “insults” like asking you if you’d prefer to live in 1675-1750 during the depths of the Little Ice Age or during these horrible days of dangerous global warming? As far as I am aware, you never answered.
Also “insults” like asking you to apologize to Dr Crockford for claiming she has no expertise on polar bears?
Or asking you to reconcile earlier floods of greater magnitude from prior centuries and questioning your whiplash switch from widespread drought claims to 6% wetter and flooding everywhere?
So actually what you mean by “insults” is any comment that you don’t like, isn’t that it?
Having to repeatedly respond to the same lies does get irritating and explains a lot of the abuse griff gets.
Stuck record comes to mind.
NB : You missed the perfect opportunity to use “97%” there …
More seriously, while I dispute your number … I’d put it nearer to 10-15% … I have some sympathy for the sentiment.
The “downvote counter” for your posts often seems to be disproportionally correlated with your username rather than with the actual content.
There are times when I’ve felt I had to comment in support of Griff just because he is being downvoted with no explanation as to why.
Sometimes he is making sound points that need to be debated and all he gets is abuse. Sometimes he isn’t making sound points and all he gets is abuse. Neither is acceptable,
And I am sure Griff is not a bot.
I’m not sure I’ve ever run across an actual bot posting here at WUWT in the years I’ve been here. Can anyone give an example?
The moderators are apparently doing a good job of preventing bots from appearing on the website.
I can’t say I’ve seen any obvious bots either, but the spammers have gotten pretty good at getting past moderation lately.
There’s the one about some guy who is earning a thousand dollars an hour at something or other.
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Griff does, sometimes, talk sense. Yet, as Mark BLR notes, gets downvoted.
mind, griff does have – ah – off-days, shall we say.
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He’s both a plague, and an expression of this sites libertarian, first amendment values.
When you’ve had to type the same long post dozens of times, every time griff repeats one of his lies, it is tempting to just keep it short.
Would you like some cheese with that whine?
Sour grapes, not whine.
And his comments are cheesy enough already.
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Self aggrandising. Few of us have time to spare, it’s not an excuse for your persistent post bombing.
I’m also in an entirely different time zone from Anthony, the UK, as are our Aussie friends and most other posters. Stop whinging.
Griff’s a Brit
I’d like to for a beer with him. I think he would find we agree on much more than he expects
I doubt that very much unless you are wildly left wing.
I like to think of myself as a compassionate Tory, it must be my working class upbringing
I believe in helping people who genuinely can’t look after themselves but to hell with the idle
I believe in protecting nature, the environment and in recycling, but not the rest of the crap spouted by “greens”
I believe in allowing genuine asylum seekers to come to the UK but not the vast majority who appear to be economic migrants
I believe all should be treated equally regardless of sexuality, religion, colour or class but not to the detriment of other people’s human right to live how they choose
If that makes me wildly left wing, so be it
awwww.. sucks to be you. Please register and continue to comment though, because your crap is easy to refute and new visitors that, like you, have only ever read the grauniad can be directed to the facts, and learn from the many knowledgeable people that post here. Besides which, I have grown fond of my mental picture of you and would miss you if you stop posting.
ROFL! Tears in my eyes! Great pic!
Dang. I’ll always see that pic now when Griff posts. I used to laugh before, but now I’ll have to bring Kleenex!
Could that be because 95% of your comments are firstly an to insult readers’ intelligence?
griff, it isn’t a echo chamber, anyone can see that the predictions about climate warming/climate change isn’t happening. I understand you like to pretend that this is happening, because you like the puzzlely part of science, but your not wanting to use the additional facts that us in the echo chamber use to refute global warming/climate change, man made anyways. We have been coming out of a ice age for a long time, the ice has melted and that would increase the rate of warming. Many different factors go into what is causing the changes in our enviroment. We here at WUWT, who make comments and post articles, are trying to help the world, not by shutting down our industries, but by keeping them open.
The best way to live is to make more hats, not cut off heads when there isnt enough hats to go around.
Please griff, use that intelligence you have to help stop this green lunacy that is only causing ruin for everyone.
If it was an echo chamber people like griff, simon and nick would have been banned long ago.
Once again, the left accuses others of doing what they do.
I didn’t say it WAs… I said with registration it MIGHT be
If it isn’t without, there is no way adding registration would make it one.
To be fair to griff, I have seen him join in with a humorous comment a couple of times when a tread got humorous. But he still got jumped on. (As he usually deserves.)
Still demonstrating the hallmark of far-leftists, psychological projection? Both the PBS NewsHour and more recently The Hill wiped out their comments sections altogether because they could not handle comments that didn’t fit into their own echo chambers.
By all means, “Griff,” I hope you do register, because one day you may look in the mirror and ask yourself why you remain enslaved to an ideology that mandates you to never question a thing about its orthodoxy, lest ye be branded and ousted as a heretic. Embrace critical thinking and rational questioning of declarations, and you will become a free man and will thank us for that emancipation.
Religious sycophants can endure and deny for decades.
I’m in the same time zone as you Griff. It’s not hard to follow a thread. You’re just making excuses for not being able to back up some of the daft comments you make.
However, please keep commenting:
a) WUWT doesn’t do censorship. That’s the what the thermageddonist sites do e.g. SkS
b) Your comments are great for amusement value.
griff the bot ,
You have never engaged in genuine debate. Ever.
You just quote that scare monger Guardian that that pretends to be a news paper .
We are all crying crocodile tears for poor griff as he is upset.
Griff,
You post assertions that have no references as if you were the final authority on truth. DON’T DO THAT. You need explanations.
Subscribe to threads if you need to time shift.
I don’t know if a poll has ever been done, but I suspect around half of our regulars post from areas outside the Americas and as a result are from different time zones.
I don’t know if it would be possible to use IP addresses as a proxy for where people are posting from, or if the use of anonymizers would make that too difficult.
No one represents Cornwall or Yorkshire? Strange…
I think there are a few posters from Lincolnshire or nearby.
Aussies punching above their weight again.
Thanks Charles, the UK’s 15.94% is originally down to the legendary Christopher Booker’s (and James Delingpole’s) constant plugs for An*h!ny’s site. Been commenting here since it started and look forward to ‘registering’.
We UK left wing sceptics were here before then.
It’s a shame that actual total numbers are kept secret. Does it really matter for advertising purposes?
“… around half of our regulars post from areas outside the Americas….”
pretty good.
You need to provide the odds on the next 4 world series games as well
” and not genuine debate.”
Which is totally only fair, since 95%+ of your comments are not worth debating !
Dear Griff,
Years ago I liked your scientific approach, even when I disagreed…
But now your comments are from a political nature rather than science or engineering.
Example: explain why .04% of the atmosphere overwhelms the largest heat store/engine…. Water vapor… And how human destruction of forest and wetlands has nothing to do with the root causes of so called climate change… Or how a little problem like poor weather collection sites cause wrong measurements, therefore corrupting the entire discussion…
Because the articles have taken a political slant?
The science has taken a political slant.
The science has always taken a political slant. It’s just that as their science gets more and more discredited, political is all that’s left.
There is zero Science in CAGW, and never has been.
Griff, mate, whenever I respond to you, I am more often than not polite and I post data with links. You never respond. I try to engage with you but nothing.
Pray tell, how is this not trying to engage in genuine debate?
Griff absolutely refuses to acknowledge his lies, even when confronted with hard evidence.
I’m sure you’ve thought of this, but I do not (and would prefer not to) have any interaction whatsoever on the (anti-)social media stuff. I do e-mail, and that’s about it. Don’t even have one of those ubiquitous ‘demon devices’ which are mis-named “cell phones”, so as long as nothing more than an e-mail address is needed, I’ll be OK.
Thanks for all you do, Anthony and Charles (and any of the other unsung hero moderators).
Vlad
I totally agree. However, I had to change cell phone providers the other day for two flip-phones, mine and my better half’s. Got that done easily but tried to place an order with one of the major on-line retailers a couple of days later. Turns out their two stage authentication feature wasn’t designed to handle phone number changes via flip-phone. Only thing their customer support could come up with was to cancel the accounts, wait some defined length of time then create two new accounts. So, I only did the first step of that suggestion.
As long as the upgrades here don’t step into obvious architectural holes like that (I suspect due to offshoring) I would have absolutely no problem registering. I’m suprised it hasn’t been implemented sooner.
I might as well say ‘farewell’ now, in case I forget later…
I won’t be registering. I simply can’t trust people from the right of the US political spectrum with more data.
My borrowed identity will just have to return to where I borrowed it from…
Remember to recycle responsibly.
Griffo baby
We’ll miss the fun, a bit of laughter is good in the grim times.
Ah, poor griff. I’ll shed a tear in my beer for you. /sarc
no, no… not in your beer !!
Griff, I think Anthony has got better things to do with his time.
That your twaddle has been tolerated here for so long here ought to give you pause for thought.
In some ways it is quite sad that you are unable to tell the difference between good and bad people. Perhaps you need to change the circle of people you mix with and get your pigeon-holed opinions from.
One constant with leftists, they always accuse others of doing what they have been doing.
BTW, why not wait until you know what information they are going to ask for before declaring that it is too much information.
Beyond that, are you accusing Anthony of being some kind of arch-conservative?
I am certain Anthony and team already know exactly who and where griff is and at least one of his/her/its real email addresses. griff will be back. He/she/it cannot resist the daily minutes of fame and attention in his/her/its miserable, lonely life.
Yep, I do. I could have outed him years ago had I chosen to do so. But because I’m apparently “untrustable” as a member of the U.S. political Right….I have not.
Even when I was threatened and harrassed by a leftist nutcase that believed I was evil, I didn’t fully out him. But I did send the police to tell him to cease and desist.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/12/07/case-closed-malicious-wuwt-troll-sees-police-show-up-at-his-door/
Afraid to register?
For once I’m fully in sympathy with griff.
I know all about that,
Chá chá chá chá chat.
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“One constant with leftists, they always accuse others of doing what they have been doing.”
I’d say that is a constant with extremists on both sides…..
Most of the normal people here are not extremists, more like rational centrists.
You should try the “centrist” part some time..
Not sure you ever have a chance of becoming “rational”
I think there are very sensible people on the right. Some of my good friends are right thinking reasonable people….But they don’t go round say things like “One constant with leftists, they always accuse others of doing what they have been doing.” That’s just way out on a limb stuff. And it never occurs to MarkW he could well be describing himself.
Not all leftists specialize in mental projections. Only about 95% of them.
And what % of rightists specialize in mental projections?
I haven’t seen any. While almost every prominent socialist specializes in it.
For example, every Democrat is united in declaring that it is Republican rhetoric that has poisoned the air in the US. Completely ignoring the fact that the have spent the last decade demonizing every who dares to disagree with whatever they are pushing.
We have the receipts, sir.
Old drunk Hillary is already on the record denying the results of the 2024 election. She blew past projection in 2015 and transitioned to full-throated criminality; but the Squat are all taking her poisonous tactics for Gospel on how to behave in Congress. I see no similar intensity/insanity on the right.
Hillary who?
” She blew past projection in 2015 and transitioned to full-throated criminality; I see no similar intensity/insanity on the right.”
Speaking of criminality…you are not looking very hard. Try looking at one criminal Trump. Happy to go toe to toe with you on Trump v Clinton and who is the bigger crim?
I’ll start. Trump has…. https://www.justsecurity.org/75032/litigation-tracker-pending-criminal-and-civil-cases-against-donald-trump/
Your turn. Clinton has?
Hillary Clinton hasn’t been objectively investigated. Given the various things she’s done, any objective and unbiased investigation would have resulted in charges. From tampering with evidence in the Nixon inestigation to sharing government information from a non government email server then deleting all of the emails after a court order to keep them, her hands are not clean.
“I think there are very sensible people on the right.”
But there are very, very few on the “left”.
Rational thought is not a “leftist” thing !!
I rest my case re extremists…
yes, you are an extremist.. an irrational non-thinking leftist fighting for the downfall of western civilisation.
Most of us here are rational centrists.
As usual.. you have no case at all..
“yes, you are an extremist.. an irrational non-thinking leftist fighting for the downfall of western civilisation.”
Ummm no. Quite happy with civilisation carrying on.
“Quite happy with civilisation carrying on.”
Then why are you constantly backing an agenda that sets out to destroy it.
That really is IRRATIONAL !
What’s telling, is that Simon calls truth, extremism.
You need a mirror my boy….
I’m sure you have plenty to admire yourself in !
The tactic is in Saul Alinsky’s handbook Simon
The colluuuusion clown appears….have you found it yet?
The Special Counsel indicted 34 people. I’d say that was well worth the peak inside Trumps little group wouldn’t you?
You are so dumb…still.
You will believe anything.
Yep. I believe what a respected republican investigating the events came up with. You on the other hand don’t be because you don’t want to. And that is enough for you in your tiny world. Must be great living in such a simple place.
Lol…respected. You really are dumb.
Derg, do you have any idea about anything? Mueller is/was a highly respected republican. You know the kind they used to have before the baffoon Trump stepped up. The ones who had integrity. Now the Trump clown car rolls through town and you lot flap your flippers…… All class.
Lol…Mueller was a government shill. What’s next? Trump grabbed the wheel and tried to go back to the protest?
Dude…you are dumb.
I’ll note on the wheel issue, the guards who said he didn’t try to grab it, refused to testify under oath….. And that Trump now loves the 5th amendment after saying that only guilty people use it.
Dude you just get dumber and dumber. I wonder how you function?
Trump has his faults but you are delusional.
Still not a leftist, Mark
Yes you are griff.. a very irrational, badly educated one.
You are one of those people who considers anyone isn’t a full blown communist, to be a centrist or conservative.
Sure. We’ve heard that before from you.
I should’ve scrolled down, my previous reply to you works better here.
I wouldn’t worry about Anthony. Who I would worry about is PayPal, Facebook, Twitter… other financial institutions like your bank… if your posts are traceable to a particular real identity by them. There is a lesson from the Free Speech Union episode, and its not that sites like WUWT are the sources of risk.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-59727118
Or the Harry Miller episode, same lesson. Its not the site you comment on that is the problem. Its others who can and will try and identify you outside that site.
You are assuming personal data will be required. Fairly standard for you as you make assumptions about everything.
And judging by the 2020 US elections it’s not the ri