Flop 27: UN Climate Summit Heading for Geopolitical Hurricane – Ukraine War Has Set the Stage for Backsliding

From CLIMATE DEPOT

The war in Ukraine has divided nations over what some saw as a fight between Russian and Western interests, and supercharged an energy crisis that risks shredding COP26’s most concrete achievement: a global consensus to cut down on coal…rampant energy price inflation has combined with a protracted energy crunch to revive demand for coal and put subsidies for fuel of any kind back on political agendas. … 

“COP27 is to be convened while the international community is facing a financial and debt crisis, an energy-prices crisis, a food crisis, and on top of them the climate crises,” says Egyptian Foreign Affairs Minister Sameh Shoukry, who’s also the conference’s president. “In light of the current geopolitical situation, it seems that transition will take longer than anticipated.”

By: Admin – Climate Depot

Flop 27: Global climate summit is heading for a geopolitical hurricane
Bloomberg, 23 October 2022

The energy crunch intensified by Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has set the stage for backsliding.

The last time world leaders got together for a climate summit, the backdrop was thoroughly menacing. A pandemic had decimated national budgets. Poor countries were up in arms over the hoarding of Covid-19 vaccines by the same wealthy nations whose fossil fuel consumption did most to warm the planet. Relations between the two largest emitters, the US and China, had devolved into zero sum skirmishes over everything from trade to Taiwan.

Those were the good old days.

As Egypt prepares to stage COP27, the geopolitical context that shapes all international diplomacy has gone from tense to precarious. The war in Ukraine has divided nations over what some saw as a fight between Russian and Western interests, and supercharged an energy crisis that risks shredding COP26’s most concrete achievement: a global consensus to cut down on coal.

As COP26 approached, falling prices for renewable energy seemed to have forced a reckoning for the dirtiest of fossil fuels. The final text of the summit included calls for a “phasedown” of coal power from any plant that doesn’t capture its carbon and an end to “inefficient” subsidies for fossil fuel. A year later, rampant energy price inflation has combined with a protracted energy crunch to revive demand for coal and put subsidies for fuel of any kind back on political agendas.

“COP27 is to be convened while the international community is facing a financial and debt crisis, an energy-prices crisis, a food crisis, and on top of them the climate crises,” says Egyptian Foreign Affairs Minister Sameh Shoukry, who’s also the conference’s president. “In light of the current geopolitical situation, it seems that transition will take longer than anticipated.”

The UK wrapped up its ­hosting duties at COP26 with a claim to have kept alive the Paris Agreement’s goal of capping warming at 1.5C above preindustrial levels. Those gains have now been at best stalled or at worst reversed by the wartime logic brought on by the invasion of Ukraine. Russia’s President Vladimir Putin has turned Europe’s energy spigot into an economic weapon in response to sanctions, and major developed economies faced with suddenly scarce natural gas supplies are racing to open up old coal-fired power stations.

The boost to fossil fuels may well prove temporary. The imperative for Europe to end its dependency on imported gas to heat homes and power industries has never been so clear. At the same time, the sheer cost of gas—as high as 10 times pre-crisis levels—should create a ­powerful incentive to look for alternatives, and the cheapest option will often be solar or wind power. US President Joe Biden has passed one of the most significant pieces of climate legislation to date. That will only accelerate on-the-ground growth in renewables, which already outpaces the expansion of power generation as a whole.

Yet it’s far from a given that either the war or the recent U-turn toward fossil fuels will be a blip. Now that Russia is intensifying its war effort with a recently announced mobilization, the race is on to lease or build new liquefied natural gas terminals all around Europe. If the continent with the most geopolitical pride in its climate commitments is backsliding, it doesn’t bode well for progress at Egypt’s Sharm El-Sheikh beach resort.

“There doesn’t need to be any more debate about gas,” Bruno Jean-Richard Itoua, the minister of hydrocarbons of the Republic of Congo, declared in September at an oil and gas conference that included Mauritania, Senegal, Gambia, Guinea-Bissau, and Guinea-Conakry. “We need to start producing as much as we can now.” Other African officials at the event echoed this up-with-­fossil-fuel sentiment.

“A lot of countries now say it is hypocritical” to call for forcing out dirty energy sources, says Bill Hare, chief executive and senior scientist for Climate Analytics, a Berlin-headquartered think-tank. “So you are seeing this really big push to renovate oil and gas projects that have been on the back burner for years in Africa and Australia, far exceeding the level required for the European gas crisis.”

For every renewable producer pressing the case for an accelerated transition, Hare sees a traditional energy company urging investment in a time of crisis. “I have rarely seen such a concerted effort by the oil and gas industry to, in one way or another, push back against the climate agenda,” he says.

Al Gore, the former US vice president and climate activist, warned late last month, that it was essential for governments to avoid signing long-term contracts for fossil fuels in a rush to plug short-term gaps caused by Russia’s war. Subsidies that support fossil fuel use doubled from 2020’s Covid-induced low, to 2021, and continue to rise sharply this year, according to a September report from the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, an inter-governmental think tank in Paris.

There are other thorny issues that will be discussed at this year’s climate summit, the first to be hosted by an African country in six years. Egypt is planning to focus this year’s COP meeting on how developing nations can get funding to adapt to rising temperatures and finance the transition to green energy. It’s also prioritizing loss and damage, a term for compensation for nations that did little to release greenhouse gases but are on the front lines of its effects.

Money to help less-developed nations mitigate and adapt to the impacts of climate change is still missing. Rich countries had agreed to provide $100 billion annually by 2020 and have fallen short by billions of dollars, pushing the target back to 2023. The Egyptian hosts are contending with inflation that spiked to 15% at the end of September from 5.9% at the start of the year. The national budget is being consumed by the need to provide basic food necessities, widening the current-account deficit in the first three months of this year by more than half, to ­$5.8 billion.

Shoukry wants COP27 to agree on additional sums to be transferred from rich to poor nations after 2025. The latest estimates to finance developing nations’ climate goals are in the scale of $6 trillion through 2030, according to the OECD. But with rich and poor economies alike grappling with rising inflation, falling revenue, and often political upheaval, finding that kind of money looks more difficult by the day. Shoukry acknowledged those concerns and called on governments to rise to the financial challenge, as they did during the pandemic.

Preliminary meetings held earlier this year in Bonn to discuss technical issues ahead of COP27 already saw flare-ups between the rich and poor camps, in particular over loss and damage. Those tensions are likely to be in evidence again at Sharm El-Sheikh.

“Rich nations have exploited and reaped the economic benefits of fossil fuels for decades,” says Gabriel Obiang Lima, Equatorial Guinea’s oil minister, describing calls on Africa to hold back on using hydrocarbons as simply unfair. “Now is our time to develop and monetize our resources, and developed countries should understand.”

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ron long
October 27, 2022 10:10 am

Ukraine War (Terrorist Invasion) threatening COP27? No, it’s the Russian way of pitching in, they say they will provide a Nuclear Winter.

Gregory Woods
Reply to  ron long
October 27, 2022 10:12 am

Hey, Ron, suffering much from PDS?

MarkW
Reply to  Gregory Woods
October 27, 2022 12:55 pm

Your boy is the one who’s been threatening to use nuclear weapons.

Reply to  MarkW
October 27, 2022 2:33 pm
HotScot
Reply to  MarkW
October 28, 2022 2:34 am

Your boy? The question of nuclear weapons was raised by Biden, Putin said if the west used nuclear weapons he would be forced to respond in kind.

Intelligence revealed Ukraine was considering using a dirty bomb as a false flag to provoke a nuclear conflict, Biden (expressing unusual common sense) warned Zelensky not to even think about it and immediately called for an inspection of Ukraine facilities. Nothing, of course, will be found. But then we’re used to the west playing games with WMD’s following Iraq.

I don’t like what Russia has done but then nor do I agree with Ukraine attacking eastern Ukraine since 2014 killing some 14,000 people and the west not raising a finger to intervene.

None of us are in a position to judge either side.

Green Dragon
Reply to  HotScot
October 28, 2022 9:24 am

Putin himself hasn’t said anything about nuclear weapons in Ukraine but his sidekicks Kadyrov and Medvedev have. Putin raised the issue of a Ukrainian dirty bomb without providing any evidence. The West have suggested that Russia may be planning to release such a bomb themselves as a false flag attack but it is probably more likely just a PR stunt to try and split Ukraine from its allies.
Ukraine themselves (not Biden) have asked the UN to investigate.

Ukraine has not killed 14,000 people since 2014. This is Russian propaganda. The figure of 14,000 is the estimated total number of people killed on both sides in 2014 in what is effectively a civil war. The vast majority of these deaths were in the first couple of years. There has certainly been no recent escalation which justified a Russian invasion.
The reasons for a Russian invasion this year are debatable but it seems to have gone badly wrong in that the Ukrainians didn’t welcome Russia with open arms and other formerly neutral countries are keen to join NATO to defend them against an aggressor.

Oddgeir
Reply to  Green Dragon
October 30, 2022 5:35 am

“Putin raised the issue of a Ukrainian dirty bomb without providing any evidence”

You believe you would be presented such evidence? Wow… That’s for the UNSC. Not the UNGA: The UNSC.

If there is a false false-flag dirty nuke, it has already been arranged to blame Russia. With the blame squarely administered, what is holding back Russia from dealing a blow to a few 10,000’s soldiers with a nuke that is actually a nuke?

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“There has certainly been no recent escalation which justified a Russian invasion.”

You need to read up on OSCE reports on the escalation to soften up cessation terrorists in the two eastern oblasts from February 17th, ahead of a Blitzkrieg which was stopped in it’s tracks. The reports on troop movements and shellings are VERY clear.

Off course that doesn’t amount to justification any more than bombing of Serbia and cessation of Kosovo.

Mac
Reply to  ron long
October 27, 2022 3:00 pm

I spoke to my ex today who lives in Tula Russia. She told me that a friend of hers who works in a factory has been told that the possibility exists and that there is a bomb shelter available. A couple of days ago the Russian news was telling the populace that the US was preparing a virus that was 80% lethal and the possibility that it would be used against Russia. I think that the Russians believed it according to my ex.
It amazes me that posters on this site post having never been to Ukraine nor Russia. I first visited Ukraine in 2004 and Russia in 2005. Ukraine was visa free while Russia charged for a visa. At the Kiev airport it was just like may European countries. In Russia the arrival area was absolutely full of uniforms of different kinds. On the street the money changers are out (mafia).
Both governments are corrupt but I was under the impression that Zelensky was trying to change that.
I remember talking to a young man there when I said the government is really corrupt; he replied it’s not the govt it’s the people…the young men were interested in the mafia ” because that’s where the money is”.
I met many very nice people in both countries; no different than UK, US or many other countries.
Lots of positive experiences other times I visited. I particularly liked Kiev particularly the city on the western side of the Dneper river parts were beautiful; probably destroyed now.

Editor
Reply to  Mac
October 27, 2022 7:26 pm

Mac – Interesting what you say about Ukraine and Russia. I have been to Russia twice, but not to Ukraine. On my first visit to Russia (Khabarovsk, Irkutsk/Baikal, Moscow, St Petersburg), Boris Yeltsin was president, and the country seemed like it hadn’t quite got used to the new freedoms. Young people were into it in a big way, but older people seemed to be finding it hard to change. Meanwhile, the mafia were building strength, and inter-mafia rivalries made Moscow and St Petersburg quite dangerous. The whole trip was awesome, but in the end, it was a relief to leave. Remarkably, the guy who looked after us in Irkutsk/Baikal appeared briefly on Australian TV recently and seemed to be doing well for himself. On my second visit (Murmansk area), Vladimir Putin was president, but that was well before his aggression towards the west had started. Things seemed reasonably quiet and stable.

I have said a few times that in the next world war I want Russia on our side, but that is starting to look a bit unlikely now.

John Hultquist
October 27, 2022 10:12 am

rich nations

Monaco and . . .?

H.R.
Reply to  John Hultquist
October 27, 2022 12:07 pm

Switzerland isn’t exactly in the bread line just yet.

Rod Evans
October 27, 2022 10:23 am

On the basis that ‘rich nations’ are those that do not need to borrow money to cover the cost of their domestic bills, who exactly are these so called rich nations that are standing ready to hand over $trillions of dollars to help pay for our green energy developments?

Redge
October 27, 2022 10:31 am

Sunak has already pulled out 🙂

Good man

Frank from NoVA
Reply to  Redge
October 27, 2022 10:45 am

Aside from his not attending, did you read the rest of the Guardian’s article before concluding he’s a ‘good man’?

Redge
Reply to  Frank from NoVA
October 27, 2022 10:52 am

Nope, never read the guardian – it’s a rag

I’m saying “Good man” as in “great he’s not going” not concluding anything

Alasdair
Reply to  Redge
October 27, 2022 11:25 am

That’s good; but Sunak refuses to dig all that energetic gas out, lying just beneath our feet; so he reckons we still need to do penance for our sins and continue with FFS.

(FFS—: Fossil Fuel Starvation).

He also meanwhile appears to think that NZE is the magical solution, poor fellow.

(NZE—: Net Zero Emissions)

For me ‘NZE’ has the same sort of connotations that ‘Deniers’ does. Both nasty.

The Mathematics: M = NZE + FFS Where M is misery.

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  Alasdair
October 27, 2022 12:03 pm

With his vast fortune, he won’t have to worry about freezing in the dark.

tgasloli
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
October 27, 2022 12:44 pm

And if he gets kick out in the next election he can return to the US where he has permanent resident status. He & his wife should get along well with Harry & Megan.

Megs
Reply to  tgasloli
October 27, 2022 4:05 pm

How can the Prime Minister have dual citizenship? Isn’t there a potential for conflict of allegiance?

MarkW
Reply to  Megs
October 27, 2022 5:13 pm

tgasloli did not say dual citizenship, he said permanent resident.
That sounds more like a green card.

griff
Reply to  MarkW
October 28, 2022 1:12 am

He had a green card indeed, but gave it up in October 2021.
controversially he held it after his appointment as chancellor (2020)

Gerry, England
Reply to  Megs
October 28, 2022 8:17 am

The lying oaf Johnson did.

griff
Reply to  Alasdair
October 28, 2022 1:11 am

Even the tories who oppose him, i.e. Jacob Rees Mogg back net zero.

HotScot
Reply to  griff
October 28, 2022 3:20 am

Rees-Mogg remarked something to the effect of squeezing every drop of oil out the north sea didn’t he?

HotScot
Reply to  Alasdair
October 28, 2022 3:17 am

Sunak needs to keep as many voters on side as possible. Anti frackers represent a lot of voters, until that is, they have been through a winter of power cuts. And they are coming as we’re being softened up for them now.

The problem isn’t Sunak, the problem is the existing planning system, it would take years to get permissions under any normal circumstances but with the resistance to it that will be multiplied.

Sunak can force it by dispensing with the local planning process ‘in the national interest’ but it will turn into the usual ‘Tory fascist’ rant from the left.

I’m only speculating here, but he might be waiting until spring when people are screaming blue murder about power cuts and the process of dispensing with local planning regulations won’t be considered a sin.

The Tories are already dead in the water. Sunak has only until Jan 2024 to turn that around, or even put up a respectable fight, and he doesn’t have many tools to work with. When people are shivering in the dark they will question the sanity of the climate agenda and NetZero. That’s a lot of voters.

I don’t like the guys politics, he’s all in for digital banking so I don’t care how good he is, he needs to go asap, but he didn’t take the job without having a plan to save the Tory party.

Gerry, England
Reply to  HotScot
October 28, 2022 8:20 am

If he ditches the pension triple lock he is done for. Although to be fair he was anyway as soon as he failed to do anything to provide affordable energy. Once ousted he can trot off back to India with his millions and his wife’s billions and hopefully never be heard of or from again.

Graham
Reply to  HotScot
October 28, 2022 1:19 pm

I agree with what you have written ,not that I follow UK politics very closely .
Zero carbon is a scam that will not save the world from an imagined threat that will never happen.
Climate change ,global warming was the first gigantic fraud thought up by globalists to restrict democracy and install the UN as the world government.
The next scam was introduced at the Kyoto Accord which was that farmed animals were emitting methane which they stated was 89 times more potent than CO2 .
This is absolute nonsense as not one additional atom of carbon is added to the atmosphere from farmed animals .
We then come to the latest scam which is Zero Carbon which which will cause much pain and suffering around the world .
Energy poverty equals poverty . Just travel to poor countries .
Ir these globalists really believed that CO2 was going to cause runaway warming they would be advocating for nuclear power that does not release CO2.
Unfortunately sanity and common sense is not required to become a politician in this modern world .
Natural gas is essential to manufacture nitrogenous fertilizer that grows food to feeds over half of the worlds population .
Restrictions on natural gas and nitrogen fertilizer will lead to starvation in many parts of the world .
Why can’t these politicians see such a simple thing .
Even the UN issued a warning that countries should not take actions to cut emissions that affect food security.
Knowing how governments perform politicians will say” that they did not know as they were trying to save the world” when famines and energy poverty become the norm.
Governments ill informed actions trying to go Zero Carbon will stuff the world .

Right-Handed Shark
Reply to  Redge
October 27, 2022 11:45 am

Sunak’s puppet masters, the WEF, have decreed that his focus should be to continue impoverishing the UK, they have quite enough shills going to Egypt to press their agenda there and he need not go.

griff
Reply to  Right-Handed Shark
October 28, 2022 1:13 am

The WEF have no influence over UK politicians, govt appointments, etc.

HotScot
Reply to  griff
October 28, 2022 3:27 am

So Schwab’s boast of having “infiltrated” governments, naming Macron and Trudeau in particular, was a lie was it?

HotScot
Reply to  Right-Handed Shark
October 28, 2022 3:26 am

FFS…..even when the guy does something positive you attack him.

Dr. Robert Malone has a downloadable spreadsheet with WEF members on it. Sunak isn’t listed, nor is Liz Truss.

The WEF have a nasty practice of putting pictures of prominent politicians on their web site with no bio and no attribution to the WEF. It misleads a lot of people into believing they are members.

Jack Frost
Reply to  Redge
October 27, 2022 12:33 pm

Not really, his clown is still going

Sylvia
Reply to  Redge
October 27, 2022 12:34 pm

Hurray, just another get-together of ignorant politicians who know NOTHING about the science of our climate !!! Not sure why we are not putting up more of a fight to stop the lies they try and tell us on “climate change” but it would be so good if they could learn to read and inform themselves of how our planet’s climate worked !!!!???

HotScot
Reply to  Sylvia
October 28, 2022 3:34 am

A lesson you should take away from your post, the following in particular: “ignorant politicians who know NOTHING about the science of our climate !!!”

In which case, why would you try to explain science to someone who doesn’t understand science.

Sceptics have been doing it for 50 years and clearly, it’s not worked.

Mike Lowe
Reply to  Redge
October 27, 2022 12:36 pm

Now all it needs is Charles to do that too! That will really test his limited scientific education!

archer
Reply to  Mike Lowe
October 27, 2022 1:25 pm

He’s already said he isn’t going.

Richard Page
Reply to  archer
October 27, 2022 1:41 pm

Yeah he’s not going although some still want him to, despite the political and security nightmare it would have been. Apparently he intends some ‘communication’ event before COP27 with world leaders.

HotScot
Reply to  Richard Page
October 28, 2022 3:35 am

Apparently – 🙄

Megs
Reply to  Redge
October 27, 2022 4:01 pm

Have you read the blurb that the Guardian puts out at the end of the article? It really is astonishing! Total BS that is. Surely no one buys into that trash.

griff
Reply to  Redge
October 28, 2022 1:10 am

He will be in the middle of setting a budget after delayed publication of the OBR economic forecast at the time and about a month in office… I think I probably have to believe he is busy

HotScot
Reply to  griff
October 28, 2022 3:37 am

About the only reasoned analysis I have ever seen you contribute here. It seems you can do it so please try to continue.

John Bell
October 27, 2022 10:39 am

HOW can they even hold COP27 with the situation in Europe? (insanity!)

Ebor
Reply to  John Bell
October 27, 2022 11:11 am

Their anti-human agenda waits for no man…

Patrick B
Reply to  John Bell
October 27, 2022 1:01 pm

What? And give up this year’s taxpayer paid vacation boondoggle? Have you no humanity man?

Graham
Reply to  John Bell
October 27, 2022 6:40 pm

That is a very good question John Bell.
Now ask your self what is the goal of these climate summits?
Answer : For a start these COPs are about reducing the worlds reliance on energy from fossil fuel.
Unfortunately the delegates and organizers refuse to accept that artificial nitrogen which is manufactured with natural gas feeds half of the worlds population.
That is a fact 4 billion people around the world are fed on the extra food grown with artificial nitrogen .
Banning fracking and shortage of gas will only lead to poverty and famines .
This is a fact as all food grown and transported around the world requires a massive amount of energy.
The delegates at the COP conferences have no grasp what so ever about the immense damage that Zero Carbon policies are having on food production .
Our local news paper stated yesterday that 100 million people around the world were starving and of course they blamed the shortage on climate change.
The food shortage has nothing to do with climate change but some of the shortage is because of the war in the Ukraine .
Why are people in charge so stupid ?
When will the public wake up and demand sanity instead of blind faith from our governments ?.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Graham
October 27, 2022 8:02 pm

Graham,
I’ve learned that it is not wise to assume that people doing harmful things are doing so out of stupidity. If you recognize that impoverishing the middle class and causing famine are features not bugs, then it all makes perfect (evil) sense. I believe that they know very well what they are doing.

HotScot
Reply to  Rich Davis
October 28, 2022 3:42 am

In which case, why aren’t BRICS nations joining in?

We have had a succession of lazy, self serving, complacent western politicians since the end of WW2, with the exception of Thatcher, Reagan and Trump who merely serve to exemplify that contention.

griff
Reply to  John Bell
October 28, 2022 1:14 am

Well a more rapid transition from natural gas helps reduce dependence on Russian gas.

HotScot
Reply to  griff
October 28, 2022 3:44 am

Transition to what?

Dave Andrews
Reply to  HotScot
October 28, 2022 7:37 am

griff has no idea, it’s just something he read somewhere and accepted without any thought.

Reply to  griff
October 28, 2022 7:47 am

Fracking would eliminate dependence on Russian gas entirely, Griff.

Mr.
October 27, 2022 10:41 am

Truth be known, the scripts for all CoPs to follow were originally written by W. Shakespeare in his farce “Much Ado About Nothing”

The title’s play on words references the secrets and trickery that form the backbone of the play’s comedy, intrigue, and action.

Richard Page
Reply to  Mr.
October 27, 2022 1:46 pm

In 1589 Shakespeare wrote a play called ‘Comedy of Error’s’. Just sayin’.

Mr.
Reply to  Richard Page
October 27, 2022 3:17 pm

Yes Richard that is certainly also an apt playbook for CoPs.

As described in Wikipedia –

“an event or series of events made ridiculous by the number of errors that were made throughout”

Strativarius
October 27, 2022 10:44 am

“additional sums to be transferred from rich to poor nations after 2025. “

From the imaginary trillions we do not have

James B.
Reply to  Strativarius
October 27, 2022 11:03 am

Imaginary quadrillions!!

Michael in Dublin
October 27, 2022 10:47 am

COP27 to FLOP27.

+100 to CLIMATE DEPOT 🙂

n.n
October 27, 2022 11:11 am

Why Ukraine… more than eight years in progress? Just another season of change in the catastrophic anthropogenic World War Spring (WWS) series.

Coeur de Lion
October 27, 2022 11:26 am

Surely COP26 allowed nations to burn as much coal as they need, Alok Sharma bursting into tears? Give me a shout when the capacity of annual new build renewables exceeds the annual rise in total global energy demand. Oh and what is the evidence for a ‘climate emergency’?

Matt Kiro
October 27, 2022 11:33 am

“the international community is facing a financial and debt crisis, an energy-prices crisis, a food crisis, and on top of them the climate crises,”

If they all stopped believing there is a human caused climate crisis, they could see providing cheap and reliable energy from coal , oil, gas and nuclear would solve most of the other problems.

Richard Page
Reply to  Matt Kiro
October 28, 2022 6:47 am

One interesting development is the protest movements ramping up across Europe – I noticed the protests in the Czech Republic were anti-government, specifically the alignment with the EU and NATO, czech’s calling for neutrality and clear independance. Hungary and Poland, too, although those seem to be about the inflation and pay rates rather than specifically anti-government. Italy may be a precursor to more nationalist parties taking power across europe if these protest groups grow.

Old Man Winter
October 27, 2022 11:35 am

While Vlad won’t be attending Flop-27, the insufferable John
Kerry, who has 6 houses, 12 cars, 2 yachts, & a private jet
will be there, probably to tell us peons that we should take
the bus. Based on Kamala Harris’s speech, where she shared
her love of yellow school buses, she could give a similar
opening speech for Flop-27:

“Who doesn’t love a Green gravy train, right? Can you raise
your hand if you love a Green gravy train? Many of us have
luxurious tropical getaways because of riding the Green gravy
train, right? It’s nostalgic- a memory of the excitement &
joy of fleecing people to get a tropical retreat so we could
be with our best friends & frolic in the sun. The Green
gravy train takes us there, right?

https://hannity.com/media-room/the-horn-on-the-bus-goes-veep-veep-veep-watch-kamala-get-way-too-excited-over-a-yellow-school-bus/

Last edited 3 months ago by Old Man Winter
John Bell
Reply to  Old Man Winter
October 27, 2022 12:16 pm

Kerry was on PBS last night, Amanpour show, spouting boilerplate as expected. Many things he said made me burst out laughing, he is SO out of touch, in denial.

Bob
October 27, 2022 11:43 am

No money for developing countries. They are in no danger except for their own poor decisions. They need to develop their own energy infrastructure and stop listening to bloviating western leaders, the sooner they do the better off they will be.

Mike Lowe
Reply to  Bob
October 27, 2022 12:43 pm

Especially those small Pacific Island nations,where they are still expecting those horrble colonialists to ride to their rescue bearing heaps of gold. Maybe some lessons in climate and geology would be of more use to them.

Vlad the Impaler
Reply to  Bob
October 27, 2022 1:24 pm

Bob,

I completely agree. It would be best for everyone if those nations that are sitting on economic quantities of hydrocarbons and other natural resources, developed them, and increased the world-wide supply of energy.

I am concerned that instead of turning to their own natural talent, or attempting to woo existing Western energy infrastructure (major oil companies, and the like), they will turn instead to readily offered “assistance” from places like China, and/or Russia, or other technologically-adept nations, who, in return for “developing” their resources, will enhance their political, economic, and possibly even military ties with those nations. I do not KNOW that this will happen, but according to articles published on JoNova, China is making great inroads into Africa with just such tactics. If true, and I have no doubt it is, it is just another failure of Western leaders to recognize who their enemy is.

It may not rise to the level of Lenin’s statement to the effect that, “The capitalists are so greedy, they will sell us the rope which we will use to hang them,” but the end result is about the same: we’re down the gurgler, and our adversaries are enriched in a multitude of ways.

Just my thoughts; I welcome yours,

Vlad

HotScot
Reply to  Bob
October 28, 2022 3:53 am

That would be fine but the World Bank etc. has stopped lending money for fossil fuel projects in developing nations. The west is literally starving these people into submission.

That’s why the emerging BRICS nations are such a threat to the west. China’s Belt & Road project may be exploitative but at least it’s a chance for these nations to break out of poverty.

Dave Andrews
Reply to  HotScot
October 28, 2022 7:52 am

Yes. In recent years western development assistance to the developing world has prioritised factors such as market liberalisation,civil society engagement and climate change rather than energy development, resource related projects and infrastructure development.

Western environmental and other NGOs have also largely opposed energy and resource development. They have a lot to answer for!

Alasdair
October 27, 2022 11:43 am

Has anyone noticed, like me, how the Media is awash with rubbish articles, reports and speeches ahead of the Upcoming COP FIASCO; all chock full of Climate PROPAGANDA?

This rampant corruption of honesty by the UNITED NATIONS desperately needs to be addressed; but how, is the question as democracy seems to have been completely bypassed.

IMO the bubble must inevitably burst with severe consequences when the populations tumble to how they have been duped, by this CAGW SCAM.

rhs
Reply to  Alasdair
October 27, 2022 11:53 am

And to top it off, Seth Bernstein is writing articles like there is no tomorrow trying to get his alarmist info across.

Mike Lowe
Reply to  Alasdair
October 27, 2022 12:48 pm

Well, that was caused here in New Zealand by our Labour government bribing the MSM with many millions of taxpayers’ bribes. I’m not quite sure how the UN achieved that without any mandate or any ability to bribe worldwide MSM. Perhaps just universal fear? That seems to have afflicted many young people worldwide, who in their ignorance seem prepared to believe ANY nonsense if it sounds sciency enough!

John Bell
Reply to  Alasdair
October 27, 2022 1:04 pm

NPR and PBS here in the USA are really pumping the narrative, like that we have ALREADY passed 5 tipping points, oh but there is time left, if we act now, but of course the elites will keep their private jets.

Rich Davis
Reply to  John Bell
October 27, 2022 8:17 pm

Tut tut, John. Why I bet that you don’t even own a yacht, never mind a private jet. You peasants are so revolting.

michael hart
October 27, 2022 12:05 pm

Any soap opera that has gone on for 27 seasons is usually well past the sell-by date.

And congratulations to DuckDuckGo. When I searched COP27 the leading result informed me that 27 Colombian peso (COP) was equivalent to 0.004860 GBP. Something relatively important.

Mike Lowe
October 27, 2022 12:35 pm

We should rename Shoukry “Einstein” for that brilliant conclusion. It seems we skeptics are winning the long war at last!

RickWill
Reply to  Mike Lowe
October 27, 2022 4:06 pm

It is not a war. It is simply watching reality unfold.

Climate lunies are caught between a rock and a hard place. The rock is that Nut-Zero is impossible. The hard place is that climate is doing the same it has always done – changing.

The only climate tipping point to be really concerned about is when ice starts accumulating on northern hemisphere land again.

tgasloli
October 27, 2022 12:41 pm

I stopped reading at “the cheapest option will often be solar or wind power.” Repeating the lie of cheap solar & wind invalidated the rest if the article.

jeffery p
Reply to  tgasloli
October 27, 2022 1:13 pm

If they just keep repeating that claim maybe no one will ask *is it true?*

layor
October 27, 2022 1:05 pm

Guterres, IPCC and Putin are similar. They are all terrorists. Guterres and IPCC are climate terrorists destroying civilization with false ideologies.

Chrissy
Reply to  layor
October 30, 2022 12:57 am

Whereas the US “rules based order” has improved countless lives in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya

October 27, 2022 1:18 pm

COP name change to CLAP because seventeen participants don’t
like cops.

C = Climate
L = Liars
A = Annual
P = Party

CLAP

Their conference report will be titled:
The Claptrap Report

Walter Sobchak
October 27, 2022 1:18 pm

“cost of gas—as high as 10 times pre-crisis levels—should create a ­powerful incentive to look for alternatives, and the cheapest option will often be solar or wind power.”

Nonsense. Weather dependent “renewable” generation equipment can never be the cheapest form of energy. It must be accompanied by storage or back-up technology and by stabilization technology (providing grid inertia and reactive power). Those costs must be priced in. This is why electricity rates in Germany and California far exceed those elsewhere.

Richard Hughes
October 27, 2022 1:31 pm

Well, the developed world still hasnt developed a brain. 1bn vs 6bn clamouring for economic advancement. Let us become impoverished but the 6bn do not care

John Bell
October 27, 2022 1:43 pm

“I have rarely seen such a concerted effort by the oil and gas industry to, in one way or another, push back against the climate agenda,” he says.

Reading that makes me blood boil.

Luke B
Reply to  John Bell
October 31, 2022 11:57 am

Yeah. Does anyone know of _any_ major player in oil and gas that has ever pushed backed any time in the last twenty years?

Dave Fair
October 27, 2022 2:20 pm

“… an energy crisis that risks shredding COP26’s most concrete achievement: a global consensus to cut down on coal…” It appears nobody told China, India and the rest of the developing world. The weasel wording about “phasing down” coal was an acknowledgement that the developing world would develop their coal resources.

tom hewitt
October 27, 2022 2:26 pm

<i>Russia’s President Vladimir Putin has turned Europe’s energy spigot into an economic weapon in response to sanctions,</i>

Russian hydrocarbons are “Europe’s energy spigot”? And the Russian response to economic sanctions is a “weapon”? What did anyone expect?

Timo, Not That One
October 27, 2022 2:44 pm

Putin has turned Europe’s energy spigot into an economic weapon in response to sanctions”
I call Bull Sh*t on this,… again.
The West put sanctions on Russia, preventing them from using the western banking system for accepting payments for Russian gas. The Russians were perfectly happy to sell gas to the West, provided we pay in Rubles. We decided not to.
The West is totally responsible for their own energy woes. Saying it’s Putney’s fault is just misinformation, or perhaps, propaganda. I would rather blame Brandon for waging war on US energy, and Europe, for shutting down traditional, reliable energy systems in favour of worthless “Unreliables”.
You make your own bed, you lie in it.

Graham
Reply to  Timo, Not That One
October 29, 2022 9:24 pm

You are an idiot Tom nto. and full of BULLshi1
IF and its a big IF Europe and the US formed NATO to counter Russian aggression why did the Nato countries not encourage all of the countries bordering Russia to join Nato?
I have heard all the excuses why they did not but If the Ukraine was part of Nato Putin would have second thoughts about an invasion and the fighting would be on Russian soil once the Russian army tried to cross the border . .
Many other countries could end up destroyed as the Russians have destroyed the Ukraine.
I can not believe that politicians can be so bl==dy stupid .
The majority of worlds nations sanctioned Russia and so they should .
That bastard Putin blackmailed the west stating that if they joined in the fighting he would use Nuclear weapons
Europe need the gas and they have the gas under ground in their countries so why don’t they exploit it ?.
Gas is gas where ever it comes from and coal is coal and the emissions are counted in the country that use these fuels to provide energy .

RickWill
October 27, 2022 3:57 pm

called on governments to rise to the financial challenge, as they did during the pandemic.

All the money created at the onset of Covid fed into a deeply recessionary backdrop. It is now being released to drive inflation.

Creating more money into a highly inflationary backdrop will throw fuel onto the the already roaring inflation fire.

China is already reducing its US debt holding and CYN are an increasing proportion of global trade invoicing and currency contracts. That does not bode well for US money creators. USD will be in the gutter before USA achieves Nut-Zero.

Creating money that is not backed by energy and manufacturing output only creates price inflation as more money chases fewer goods.

CD in Wisconsin
October 27, 2022 4:22 pm

Twenty-six and going on 27 COP[OUT] conferences since the early 1990’s. Somewhere there is a graph showing how CO2 has gone nowhere but up in the timeframe of all these 26 conferences. Still, governments and the mass media take these conferences seriously.

This would make a nice Monty Python comedy skit. Where is John Cleese these days?

Edward Katz
October 27, 2022 6:00 pm

The laughable part in this report is the assertion that since natural gas prices have increased so fast, they will spur more development of wind and solar, which are so much cheaper. Such reasoning might be logical if those two renewables had a strong track record for reliability; but since they’ve proved to be anything but, what advantage could there be in investing in them? A shortage of heat and light will feel the same whether it’s due to a shortage of fossil fuels or the sporadic energy that wind and solar have become notorious for.

Dave Andrews
Reply to  Edward Katz
October 28, 2022 8:36 am

Want some more laughs read the International Renewable Energy Agency’s World Energy Transitions Outlook 2021.

Despite admitting

“Growing shares of variable renewable energy (VRE), such as solar and wind power systems, complicate the balancing of supply and demand, raising system requirements”

they go on to say

“Renewable power generation capacity must grow from 2800GW today to 27,500GW by 2050 or by 840GWpa – 4 times the increase in annual capacity additions in recent years”

and

“EV sales must grow from 4% of all vehicles to 100%, with stocks of EVs growing from 7m in 2020 to 1.8b in 2050”

as regards hydrogen

“Meeting that goal will require the addition of 163GW of electrolysers a year between now and 2050, from a 2020 base of 0.3GW installed capacity”

Ask the Ducks to find it, it’s very funny!

Gary Pearse
October 27, 2022 7:49 pm

“President Vladimir Putin has turned Europe’s energy spigot into an economic weapon in response to sanctions, and major developed economies faced with suddenly scarce natural gas supplies are racing to open up old coal-fired power stations.”

A ridiculous article! Guest Blogger, do you not see how blind to reality and silly you are? What you should be seeing here is how completely dependent we have been and still are are on fossil fuels! Putin’s war didn’t cause this. It simply revealed what was largely hidden from ordinary folk kept in the dark about the ‘Clean Green Energy’ revolution.

The windmills and solar panels have been despicably advertised by world leaders, misanthropic NGOs and the Davos billionaire NWO Robber Barons as the cheapest form of energy. They neglected to say, and didn’t account for the fact that without fossil fuels, these things don’t work.

Having legislated against fracking, exploration, production pipelines and acted to repress financing and pushing policies to phase out petroleum fueled transportation, it’s economics 101 that oil companies are not going to invest in new production or new refineries. I leave it for highschool homework, what you would expect prices of these products to do?¿ With or without Putin’s adventure in Ukraine.

Putin certainly brought to light the EU-West dirty little secret that oil gas and coal are indispensable to a ‘working’ renewable grid and for cars trucks, aircraft, construction equipment and even the mining, processing refining, glassmaking activities needed for producing windmills and solar panels – they can’t be fueled by renewables.

Read Goldman Sachs little bombshell the other day: prior to 3.8 trillion spent on renewables, fossil fuels were 81% of global energy supply. After this expenditure, they were 80%! Probably, with the failure of the new age power that even a fool (obviously not all fools) can easily see happening, fossil fuels are even a greater percentage than ever.

griff
October 28, 2022 1:07 am

(Just to say those AI generated header pictures continue to be amazing. I generated ‘Renewable energy triumphant and got a great artwork!)

Dave Andrews
Reply to  griff
October 28, 2022 8:39 am

Fantasy artwork, fantasy energy!

D.M. Anderson
October 28, 2022 9:32 am

Where are you guys getting these amazing paintings.

Lawrence Ayres
October 29, 2022 3:14 am

It must nearly be time for some truth telling like the whole things been a scam and we made the whole thing about CO2 up just to see how gullible you all were and now we know.

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