From the NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT
By Paul Homewood
h/t Dennis Ambler
Latest poppycock from the Guardian:
The next pandemic may come not from bats or birds but from matter in melting ice, according to new data.
Genetic analysis of soil and lake sediments from Lake Hazen, the largest high Arctic freshwater lake in the world, suggests the risk of viral spillover – where a virus infects a new host for the first time – may be higher close to melting glaciers.
The findings imply that as global temperatures rise owing to climate change, it becomes more likely that viruses and bacteria locked up in glaciers and permafrost could reawaken and infect local wildlife, particularly as their range also shifts closer to the poles.
For instance, in 2016 an outbreak of anthrax in northern Siberia that killed a child and infected at least seven other people was attributed to a heatwave that melted permafrost and exposed an infected reindeer carcass. Before this, the last outbreak in the region had been in 1941.
So, the Guardian is saying that there used to be life where there is now ice? Maybe as recently as 1941?
In fact the actual study does not support the Guardian’s latest silly scare story anyway. According to Wikipedia, Lake Hazen is not a melting glacier.
The area around the lake is a thermal oasis within a polar desert, with summer temperatures up to 20 °C (68 °F). The lake itself is covered by ice about ten months a year.
And according to the study’s author, Arwyn Edwards:
“For all we know, it [the potential for host switching identified in Lake Hazen] could be the same as the likelihood of host switching posed by viruses from the mud in your local pond,”
Before she added the money line:
“We do urgently need to explore the microbial worlds all over our planet to understand these risks in context”
No doubt it will keep the gullible Guardian readers awake at night though!
Misspelled Grauniad. Do you not proofread?
Please! It’s ‘prufreed’
Heh, don’t they know the boutique stuff comes from laboratories? Wet markets are not in the running and cold glaciers neither. Besides, such conjectured organisms have already run into an evolutionary dead end, entombed in ice.
I heard the next virus is probably going to come from the the thawed carcass of a common Washington scapegoat.
Perhaps we don’t want to find Jimmy Hoffa.
They’ve already made it, in the lab.
Catastrophic Terrestrial Climate Stasis… Her Choice.
What the Guardian is not revealing (for the moment) is that the various humanity-ending viruses will come from the centuries-old preserved aliens in the polar ice. They have good reason to be nervous as the few survivors from previous US and Norwegian expeditions will attest to. sarc
Good piece, but tip: for new readers, don’t use Wikipedia as a source. People know that anyone can change what’s written on there.
Not anyone. Try correcting the massive misinformation re “Climate Change”. The fanatical warmunists will force it back to the dogma faster than The Flash.
Hmm, I’ve been using “Global Warm-mongers” (hat tip to Mark Steyn), but this is a lot quicker to type, and the implied reference to communists works on several levels.
I’m going to steal that, if you don’t mind.
But, to be formal, they are the Climate Catastrophists.
With how they act to apostates they are clearly climate Scientologists.
Same thing happened when Wikipedia changed the definition of a recession because the US Government denied that the US economy was in recession.
In a world where disappointing, depressing news is omnipresent, I read The Guardian first-up most mornings, just to start my day with a good larf.
Then onto The Babylon Bee for some insights into actual developments of real consequence.
I’ve always regarded The Graun as a parody of the Babylon Bee
Evidence that science follows the trending horror movies set in the polar regions.
Yes, that’s the first thing that came to my mind upon reading this article – “The Thing”….
Damn, wish I’d scrolled down a bit before replying – think you guys nailed it first. Well Halloween isn’t too far away!
Sir David Attenborough?
Fox Mulder, call your office….
The Grauniad’s best at being worst!
What do they believe they will find under the glaciers ? A lab ? A wet market ? Fauci’s grandfather ?
A Nazi base with either submarines or strange flying craft used to be quite popular among fiction writers of a certain persuasion. The Grauniad now appears to provide a rest home for failed weird science thriller writers.
It still is. I’ve been amusing myself by reading some of their stuff. Grays, Reptilians, and “Nordics”, all with different agendas, and, depending on who you’re listening to, some are either allied with the U.S. Navy, or the U.S. Air Force (or German Nazis!).
Makes you wonder about the next military academies’ football season.
What will they find?
Superman’s Fortress of Solitude. I hear he’s getting ready to list it. He’s short on cash.
After his last couple of movies, I can believe it…
Martians promoting instant mashed potatoes.
Hmmm, that works on several levels.
Matt Damon, call your office…
Sequestered carbon… say, fossil babies… fetuses.
““Most Gullible On The Planet””
Have you met griff?
Underneath he’s far from gullible, he’s a pilgrim
Ah, but I bet he reads the bits of the GroanAid that don’t use too many syllables!
Post says:”…melted permafrost and exposed an infected reindeer carcass.”
If the deer was in the permafrost then it could have been there for hundreds of years, so anthrax could have been in the area for a very long time with periodic breakouts.
In actual fact, if you investigate the past history of the area, you’ll find exactly that – there have been periodic outbreaks of anthrax going back a very long time.
A good point. In my reading over many decades, it is clear that anthrax spores can survive for centuries in a proper environment.
Good thing that the best treatment for anthrax is the common anti-biotic amoxicillin.
Funny how a reindeer carcass finds it way into the permafrost.
Maybe it was warmer back then 😉
And no SUVs !!
Considering the fact that the Holocene Optimum was much warmer than today, no “virus” or “bacteria” frozen into the glaciers, assuming that is even possible, could be older than 3000 to 5000 years old.
The Interweb is great innit…
It seems that, as reported by somewhere equally as trustworthy and factual as El GroanIndeedio, that NASA has actually got something right.
Yes, you read that correct – NASA has noticed something that is actually true. Scaaaaaryyyyyy
Still clueless on what it actually is that they’ve noticed, but they’ve got the initial observation correct.
Visit this place….a true joy
”Guardian Readers Are The Most Gullible On The Planet,”
I knew that all along. Griff quotes it all the time.
But there’s plenty of other rags vying to prove their readership is more gullible. From live science:
‘What caused the snow crab crash? The main culprit was almost certainly human-caused climate change, though unsustainable fishing practices may also have played a role, the Seattle Times reported.’
The latest clickbait headline is that it was cannibalism and climate change. Which all completely ignores the fact that they probably just walked over the border into Russian waters.
Do they not know that a glacier MOVES. Every season the lower end melts and turns back into water. So if a glacier is carrying the next pandemic, then it’s just a matter of time before it comes out. All the carbon taxes and sacrifices will not stop that.
Those readers must be truly thick.
New Boston virus looks like a contender for the next virus. See Dr John Campbell on YouTube.
The key word here and in all doomsday predictions is “may”. The reality is that all sorts of bad and good things may/might/could result from various occurrences and circumstances, but most of them don’t, so why lose sleep over them?
Does The Git– sorry, The Guardian– or any related newspaper ever ask if the viruses that “may” be housed in the ice are much of a threat? If anthrax is the biggest threat, then I’ll invest in a pharmaceutical company that makes amoxicillin. Other than that, I’ll be over here yawning.
Gullible is not a real word. It is not found in any dictionary. You can look it up, it’s not there.
C’mon, admit it. How many of you actually looked it up to see if it was there?
I worked at a company where that one reputedly worked on one employee. He was an OK guy really, but an insufferable know-all with a 1st from Cambridge.
I got somebody from where I used to work with that one as well. First time I saw the joke was on ‘Roseanne’ I think.
In my experience there’s always at least one!
I’ve been saying that for years, Doon 🙂
Was there ever a doubt?
Not by most, but when polled, Guardian readers didn’t believe it.
It’s on their manifest: The Guardian will publish no news that doesn’t support their agenda. End of story.
The good news is that you can publish any kind of garbage and make a living, so long as it is anti-establishment and poorly thought out. Or, not thought out at all.
“in 2016 an outbreak of anthrax in northern Siberia“
Anthrax hasn’t existed since 1941? That’s news to me.
Sometimes I feel bad mocking the afflicted.
Remember the Apollo astronauts who were quarantined after travelling to the moon?
As if a hypothetical virus/bacteria that could infect humans would be troubled by a couple of weeks quarantine after it had survived a squillion years in the hard UV of the extreme vacumn and temperature changes on the moon.
How in the world did humans survive the end of the last recent glaciation? All those viruses and bacteria released?
The viruses that can end human civilization are already part of our makeup. They are gullibility, unwarranted certainty, affection for appearance over substance, and intellectual sloth.
Oh, who cares.
the next one may come from Boston.
The scum they need to be investigating works for the NIH and the Wuhan Institute of Virology.and the CCP.
We have already had anthrax outbreaks from melting Siberian permafrost.
so why is this impossible?