Irony: Greens Now Praying for a “Warmer” Winter to Help Germany Survive Energy Crisis

By P Gosselin

From the NoTricksZone

Normally the climate alarmists are convinced that a warming planet can only be bad for us, no matter where or when. They complain that the summers are too hot and we no longer get cold and snowy winters like we used to. Mild winters, they say, are a climate disaster that will doom us! The warmth is only causing trouble for everything and there’s nothing good about it. We have to cool the planet back to 1960s temperature levels, they keep suggesting.

But now that Germany’s energy supply crisis is dangerously intensifying, Federal Economics Minister Robert Habeck (Green Party) is desperately scrambling for ways to somehow get the country through the winter without the gas supply running out and millions of people freezing. One way is pleading for Germans to turn the heat in their homes way down in order not to deplete the gas supply before the cold weather ends next May. But that alone won’t be enough.

Now, ironically, Habeck is also hoping for a warmer winter to bail out the country from its energy crisis. A warm winter will mean burning less gas and help the country avoid untold misery. Alas – warming is rescue!

He said recently, in mid September:

“If everything goes well in terms of saving gas and we are lucky with the weather, then we have a chance of getting through the winter well.”

Here he of course means if the winter is warm – and not cold and snows like the winters they long to return to – we might get through it without freezing to death before spring finally arrives. Please, please, please let it be warm, Habeck and his greens are hoping now.

To deal with the looming winter energy crisis, most countries in Europe are aiming to save 15 percent. In Germany, however, the government is pushing for savings of 20 percent, and warm winters are welcome again.

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D. J. Hawkins
October 14, 2022 6:19 am

Briefly scanning the various forecasts for this winter in Europe, it looks like average to slightly above average temperatures with slightly colder in the early half. Snow is expected to be below average as well. It isn’t clear that “average to slightly above” is going to be enough to save the EU’s bacon on this, however.

alastair gray
Reply to  D. J. Hawkins
October 14, 2022 6:30 am

OK let us pray for a real stinker “Beast from the East” winter. It is a fact that the old monks in their cloisters favoured cold temperatures to stimulate the brain and keep mental focus. Good luck greens! Mental focus has not figured very high on your agenda yet.

Redge
Reply to  alastair gray
October 14, 2022 10:18 am

OK let us pray for a real stinker “Beast from the East” winter.

Let’s not.

Think of how many excess deaths there will be. I know that’s one of the aims of the misanthropic greens, but it’s hardly the humane thing to do.

Leo Smith
Reply to  Redge
October 15, 2022 12:08 am

The question is as always how far reality has to go to usher fantasy out of people’s worldviews. Putin, Mr arch fantasist and propagandist, is bringing reality to Europe, the Left, and the Greens, and destruction to his own country.

Omelettes are being made…

alastair gray
Reply to  D. J. Hawkins
October 14, 2022 6:33 am

I wouldnt pay any attention to the predictions of our Met Office and their European equivalents. I remember the predicted “barbecue summer” of a few years back that was one of the most dismal on record.

Patrick B
Reply to  alastair gray
October 14, 2022 8:05 am

If only they could predict the weather for the next 5 months as reliably as they can predict the weather in 5 decades. What? You say they can?

Duker
Reply to  Patrick B
October 14, 2022 1:37 pm

The weather is variable is all that can be predicted.
Even financial forecasts usually say in the fine print , previous performance is no predictor of future events.

In general most of Germany has cold continental type winters anyway. A slightly higher average over the period isnt much change

Bryan A
Reply to  D. J. Hawkins
October 14, 2022 7:38 am

I predict that every German who doesn’t survive the cold this winter will be replaced by a newborn next autumn. Gotta do something to stay warm and sharing body heat helps.

James
Reply to  Bryan A
October 14, 2022 9:40 pm

Many of those who expire will be voting for the Leftist candidates.

Russ Wood
Reply to  James
October 15, 2022 5:56 am

You mean – AFTER they expire?

Patrick MJD
Reply to  D. J. Hawkins
October 14, 2022 7:45 am

100mm of snow in Dunedin, NZ just days ago. Shutdown a major highway.

Eric Harpham
Reply to  Patrick MJD
October 14, 2022 9:15 am

Is this unusual or a regular occurrence at this time of year(equivalent to a northern hemisphere April).

Chris Nisbet
Reply to  Eric Harpham
October 14, 2022 9:52 am

It was blamed on climate change.
We had a report on the state propaganda outlet (One News) where some expert told us the severe frost that killed off some orchard’s crop was due climate change. He said that we know that extreme weather like this is getting more common.

Snow like this in Dunedin isn’t that common at this time of year though. If that expert is right, global warming is going to bring more of it.

Redge
Reply to  Chris Nisbet
October 14, 2022 10:19 am

Global warming brings cold weather

kwinterkorn
Reply to  Redge
October 15, 2022 3:49 pm

Yes! And war is peace…and freedom is slavery

Mike Lowe
Reply to  Chris Nisbet
October 14, 2022 11:27 am

Yes, that cold snap was a frost hitting the blueberry crop in the Waikato.
Can’t ever watch the “News” on TVNZ without a reference to alleged Climate Change. However, things are looking up, because there are claims that “Dan the Weather Man” got through a whole weather forecast without using a single word of Te Reo – maybe the effects of Cindy’s MSM Bribe are wearing thin!

Duker
Reply to  Mike Lowe
October 14, 2022 1:43 pm

TVNZ it appears to be state owned . They are always going to follow the mainstream view
it seems that October cold spells are not common but not getting more frequent
https://www.odt.co.nz/star-news/star-christchurch/christchurch-may-get-first-october-snowfall-53-years
Every 50 years for October is just a 2% chance
In winter it seems that snow every 5years or so is normal

Alastair Brickell
Reply to  Mike Lowe
October 14, 2022 4:42 pm

Well, his job’s on the line then!

Using Maori phrases liberally interspersed with English is the new norm here in NZ thanks to our leftist masters. Especially in the mainstream television and radio media.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Alastair Brickell
October 15, 2022 5:23 am

same inn aus every damned radio program is now coming from?????lands
NO they are NOT!
mighta been 300yrs ago but its NOT theirs now

Bryan A
Reply to  Chris Nisbet
October 15, 2022 8:18 am

And 100mm = 10cm = 4″ …
So 4″ of snow is “Extreme”

Ron Long
Reply to  D. J. Hawkins
October 14, 2022 8:04 am

Primitive humans moving out of the warm tropics led to a rapid advancement in cognitive ability, IQ for short, as planning ahead for dealing with cold and unproductive weather, is not for the more simple thought processes. Therefore, one can only hope that an intellectual advancement occurs in Germany this Winter. Waiting for it.

Mike Lowe
Reply to  Ron Long
October 14, 2022 11:30 am

Maybe those smart Germans will develop coal-fired power generation. It is certainly needed urgently.

Duker
Reply to  Mike Lowe
October 14, 2022 1:47 pm

Nope . They will just get power from Poland who are major coal miners and thermal coal generators. Poland has first dibs on Russias gas as the pipelines ALL ( now the nordstream pipes were sabotaged) pass through Poland first

Michael in Dublin
Reply to  Mike Lowe
October 15, 2022 1:25 am

A son of mine in Germany took steps to prepare for a difficult winter by ordering a wood stove months ago. He has a supply of wood pellets but the stove is not arriving.

Reply to  D. J. Hawkins
October 14, 2022 9:21 am

DHR
Reply to  D. J. Hawkins
October 14, 2022 10:22 am

Accuweather says near normal temps but very cold in the UK. The European Centre for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts says lower than normal temperatures with easterly winds bringing cold and dry conditions. On the positive side, like climate forecasts, weather forecasts for anything other than perhaps 3 days in advance have little substance.

Duker
Reply to  DHR
October 14, 2022 1:50 pm

Yes. The medium range forecasts are 2 weeks ahead. Thats as far ahead as can said the forecast is useful but not on a local scale

Jtom
Reply to  D. J. Hawkins
October 14, 2022 2:45 pm

One month before the big 2021 Texas freeze the official forecast was for much warmer than average temperatures for the entire area. Take any forecast for a time more than a week a way with a grain of salt, and less than that for forecasting decades into the future..

Steve G
Reply to  D. J. Hawkins
October 14, 2022 3:38 pm

Average temps are one thing, and not accurate anyway. All it will take as it does every winter is a reasonably intense cold front with freezing temps along with it, and people without reliable energy for heat are in trouble.

strativarius
October 14, 2022 6:34 am

Prayer. A two-way spiritual relationship where the believer talks to their [eco] god and also listens to it.

It’s entirely in keeping with the new religion. Will Gaia hear their prayers any more than any other deity? No.

The old joke was that cold is god’s way of saying burn more catholics. Nowadays it’s sceptics.

There’s a high probability that this winter will be little different to the last two (La Nina) years.

rah
October 14, 2022 7:00 am

Who are they praying to? And as for a warm winter? Not likely during a La Nina winter. But if they do luck out and have a warmer than average winter, there is no doubt they will declare it was caused by too much of the magic all powerful molecule.

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Janice Moore
Reply to  rah
October 14, 2022 10:01 am

Same as the early followers of paganism, no doubt:

Then, they called on the name of Baal from morning till noon. “Baal, answer us!” they shouted. But there was no response; no one answered. …

I. Kings 18:26

That was my first thought, too. “‘Greens’ pray?!?”

Rod Evans
October 14, 2022 7:05 am

Nothing the Greens do or say should come as a surprise to anyone. They are so disconnected from reality they are impossible to predict. Do not be surprised to find them demonstrating for an increase in fossil fuel availability in order to meet the gaps caused by their demonstrations to ban fossil fuel.

Patrick MJD
October 14, 2022 7:42 am

Germany shutdown their coal, gas and nuclear power generators without securing energy supplies and Russia shuts down gas to Germany? I do not want to be anywhere near a cold Europe for the next 10-15 years, maybe more.

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Scissor
Reply to  Patrick MJD
October 14, 2022 7:53 am

In the Netherlands, it seems the government is intent on taking away many farmers’ land. This seems contrary to the philosophy of “teaching a man to fish.” Interesting times.

Globalists should have a hard time demonizing farmers, especially when the masses are cold and hungry.

griff
Reply to  Scissor
October 14, 2022 8:18 am

Surely they are just requiring a drop in livestock numbers? Because of a serious nitrates problem affecting water supplies?

Pflashgordon
Reply to  griff
October 14, 2022 12:59 pm

Griff, I find it beyond belief that this has anything to do with nitrates in groundwater. Nitrogen management and groundwater protection have been well known, studied and managed in agriculture for over half a century. The groundwater standard for nitrate (10 mg/L) is quite manageable. That 10 ppm limit is to protect infants from methemoglobinemia (blue baby syndrome). For anyone else, that level of nitrate or higher is no problem.

Farming and livestock operations can readily be managed to maintain acceptable nitrates. Griff, you have been listening to more lunatic activists.

Elliot W
Reply to  griff
October 14, 2022 2:33 pm

“A drop in livestock numbers” means a drop in food production. Thirty per cent fewer dairy cows equals thirty percent less milk, butter, cheese. It’s also a thirty percent drop in manure, required to replace fertilizer in “organic” fruit and vegetable farming, so those farmers see a drop in production too.
I hope your troll business pays well because otherwise you are embarrassing yourself.

TonyG
Reply to  Scissor
October 14, 2022 9:05 am

No, they’ll blame the farmers for not growing enough food.

MarkW
Reply to  TonyG
October 14, 2022 10:30 am

And use that as an excuse to have government take over the farming industry.

Duker
Reply to  MarkW
October 14, 2022 1:55 pm

European farmers are heavily subsidised anyway. Thats the usual method of control and a tariff wall keeps out cheaper food and the more ‘sinful’ methods used elsewhere
https://business.gov.nl/subsidy/common-agricultural-policy/

jeffery p
October 14, 2022 7:47 am

I’m *not* going to wish for a cold, hard winter and lots of human suffering, no matter how much I oppose the green agenda.

Eric Harpham
Reply to  jeffery p
October 14, 2022 9:23 am

We can’t do anything but wait and see.

rah
Reply to  jeffery p
October 14, 2022 10:02 am

Nor am I. But if it happens the majority of them voted for it. Unfortunately, as always seems the case, it will be the most innocent that are likely to suffer the most.

Reply to  jeffery p
October 14, 2022 12:36 pm

I will. Someone has to go first to illustrate the coming death from this insanity. The sooner it peaks, the sooner it can end.

TonyG
October 14, 2022 7:51 am

And they still won’t learn. We’re seeing signs of that already.

Patrick B
Reply to  TonyG
October 14, 2022 8:07 am

Religious fanatics are not swayed by facts or real life events.

Mike Lowe
Reply to  Patrick B
October 14, 2022 11:35 am

Just as well someone invented Him!

John Bell
Reply to  TonyG
October 14, 2022 8:33 am

I KNOW many liberals, (lefties) and they NEVER learn, they just keep on doing the same thing that failed again and again, they are nuts, they hate reality, way too idealistic.

Retired_Engineer_Jim
Reply to  John Bell
October 14, 2022 2:56 pm

You can always tell a liberal (progressive), you just can’t tell her/him much. (Did I get the pronoun right?)

John
October 14, 2022 8:14 am

I hope everyone understands that if there’s a lot of suffering due to the cold weather this winter, the greens will just argue that the problem was that Europe didn’t convert entirely to “renewable” energy soon enough, that if they’d quit the fossil fuel addiction sooner, everything would have been fine. Kind of like the argument that the reason socialist governments haven’t worked in the past is that they haven’t been done right.

griff
October 14, 2022 8:17 am

I read German gas stores are at 95% capacity.

They have also introduced energy saving measures as of September 1st.

Mr.
Reply to  griff
October 14, 2022 9:15 am

I read that Germany proudly leads the world in renewable power generation.

Why all this hoo-ha from them about gas fossil fuel then?

Surely after 40 years of closing down coal and nuclear plants and replacing these with wind turbines and solar panels, they’re well past needing any electricity generation from gas?

Duker
Reply to  Mr.
October 14, 2022 2:01 pm

Gas is used for domestic and commercial heating

Mr.
Reply to  Duker
October 14, 2022 2:03 pm

Yes. And?

ThinkingScientist
Reply to  griff
October 14, 2022 9:19 am

Once more Griff only tells half the story, the bit that looks good. If you are going to quote Bloomberg, better quote all of it:

Germany Reaches 95% Gas Storage Target Ahead of Schedule

  • Original target of almost full storage sites was for Nov. 1

The bit Griff missed out from the headline:

  • Gas in storage will last for two cold months, regulator says

So if its cold by Christmas Germany could be in deep trouble in February 2023.

Fraizer
Reply to  ThinkingScientist
October 14, 2022 3:04 pm

That’s ok. Even if they have to drain their gas storge completely this year, it will magically refill for next year. /sarc

Reply to  griff
October 14, 2022 9:25 am

Some days before, they told us about 80%, what is the truth ? 😀
And in some of the cold days in September, the Germs used to much gas.
Go painting a nice picture, griff 😀

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Bryan A
Reply to  Krishna Gans
October 14, 2022 11:48 am

Nothing beats a steady Domestically sourced ample supply of Natural Gas when it comes to heating and cooking during a long cold winter

Jtom
Reply to  griff
October 14, 2022 3:00 pm

Well, first, gas stores were meant to get through temporary emergencies, augmenting normal gas deliveries, NOT replacing those gas deliveries.

Secondly, if there is a cold snap at the end of winter they are in trouble.

Third, the primary way energy is being conserved in Germany is from manufacturing MOVING OUT OF GERMANY or permanently closing the business.

Next, a food shortage is in the works due to a shortage if fertilizer and nitrogen products that were normally made from gas stock.

So, expensive or no energy, no heat, no jobs, no manufacturing, and food shortages. There’s a term for a nation having those problems; third world country.

Congratulations, Grif. You get to see the success of the policies you have been advocating.

TonyG
Reply to  Jtom
October 15, 2022 8:46 am

And when all that happens, Jtom, he’ll say it’s because they “didn’t do enough”.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  griff
October 15, 2022 5:30 am

and theyve shuttered steel and aluminium smelters food processors are NOT planting and the last harvest will be processed and then theyre shutting down for maybe 6mths?
HAK major processor
not only are prices for power etc high but thousands already out of work and wont be able to pay for that let alone food

Graemethecat
Reply to  griff
October 15, 2022 11:43 am

Why do they need Natural Gas when Solar and Wind are so cheap and abundant, at least according to you?

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  griff
October 16, 2022 5:18 am

Griff, even you aren’t stupid enough to think that they store up a whole winter’s worth of natural gas and draw it down to be refilled in the summer.

Michael in Dublin
October 14, 2022 8:40 am

Just saw a headline, “Brainwashed Climate Lunatics Throw Tomato Soup on Van Gogh’s Favorite Painting.
We can help these Greens: Give green vandals hard labor and unheated cells (with only a blanket and cold food) for the winter with an option of a return visit next winter if they like it.

Robert Hanson
Reply to  Michael in Dublin
October 14, 2022 1:51 pm

Then they glued themselves to the wall underneath it. My suggestion: don’t unglue them for a couple of days. Let them spend 48 hours glued to the wall thinking it over. I’m pretty sure that will be the last time they try that.

Mike Dubrasich
Reply to  Robert Hanson
October 14, 2022 2:38 pm

Also, just for fun, throw tomato soup cans at them.

Ian Johnson
Reply to  Mike Dubrasich
October 14, 2022 3:56 pm

Unopened ones?

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  Ian Johnson
October 16, 2022 5:22 am

Or you could throw the tops of the cans with sharp edges. That would be pretty painful and would leave them with scars to remember their folly.

Fraizer
Reply to  Robert Hanson
October 14, 2022 3:06 pm

Don’t unglue them period. If they do manage to get free, staple them to the wall.

AWG
October 14, 2022 9:21 am

The Party of Science™ is now calculating into their energy plans begging, hope and luck.

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  AWG
October 16, 2022 5:23 am

Well, Biden tried that earlier and it didn’t seem to work. Maybe they will do it right this time.

October 14, 2022 9:28 am

They need som shamanes in the Germs gouvernement, the Greens, at least some of them, may have some competence 😀

October 14, 2022 9:46 am

As we have here now 3 so called crisis, climate, covid and the real, the energy sector, I fear we will see ealier or later the development toward political police like the old East German Stasi or the older German Ges*apo to pursue adversely political belief or thoughts.
There where warnings in case of demonstrations, that rightwings and “normal” citizens could march together against energy prices or black-outs. Divide et Impera in advance.
No good signs, not foregetting that German police and military will work together….

DHR
October 14, 2022 10:10 am

“If everything goes well in terms of saving gas and we are lucky with the weather, then we have a chance of getting through the winter well.”

Habeck could say the exact same thing with a winter dependent on wind, sunshine and batteries and be equally correct.

Janice Moore
October 14, 2022 10:14 am

Re: “… and we are lucky with the weather, …

Lol. In his panic, he goofed!

Psst, Habeck, it’s not weather that might warm, it’s CLIMATE. Which is already dangerously warm. And we only have a few years months DAYS to stop the WARMING.

Supporting cite (for you Habeck):

“The planet has a fever,” the Prophet Al Gore.

ResourceGuy
October 14, 2022 10:30 am
ResourceGuy
Reply to  ResourceGuy
October 14, 2022 1:12 pm

Griff has been busy with training the young Green ISIS.

Robert Hanson
Reply to  ResourceGuy
October 14, 2022 1:56 pm

Had to laugh at this:
The cost of living crisis is part of the cost of oil crisis, fuel is unaffordable to millions of cold, hungry families. They can’t even afford to heat a tin of soup,” one activist said, as video footage of the event shows.”

So the solution to cold hungry families that can’t afford heat is to shut down all fossil fuels. Yeah, that should take care of the problem.

Ack
October 14, 2022 11:10 am

Gemany set to burn 800,000 unused covid masks. That should generate some heat

Peta of Newark
October 14, 2022 11:15 am

Somebody’s prayers were certainly answered…

Headline:”Climate change: Summer 2022 smashed dozens of UK recordsBBC

…what with the beanfeast and general hoo-ha they’re making of it.

But wasn’t that heat supposed to be trapped in the atmosphere, or stored in the deep ocean – or even wet and swampy parts of otherwise dry land.

Where did it go after the heatwave, how does Entropy and the laws of thermodynamics apply here – if The Heat was ‘on’ in the UK during July/August, it cannot Surely Shirley be also ‘on’ this coming January February……..

Dave Andrews
Reply to  Peta of Newark
October 15, 2022 6:22 am

“In the context of the last few centuries the summer of 2022 in Central England/ England and Wales was hot and dry. But it was not exceptionally so. The summers of 1976 and 1995 were both substantially hotter and drier.”

https://mikehulme.org/the-2022-summer-in-long-term-perspective/

As usual the beeb makes up its own stories!

Dave Magill
October 14, 2022 1:29 pm

Wonder if the recent immigration into Germany will be reversed?

Edward Katz
October 14, 2022 2:27 pm

Could it be that the same Greens are realizing that it’s their backsides will feel the chill also as a result of the energy shortages? Why aren’t they demanding more wind and solar to remedy the problem?

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Edward Katz
October 15, 2022 5:34 am

gretas coming out for nuke power rather quickly

IanE
October 14, 2022 11:57 pm

Yes, yes, BUT you must know that if it is warm this year it will be weather not climate!

Ed Zuiderwijk
October 15, 2022 5:07 am

A mix of cognitive dissonance and schizophrenia. With ‘leaders’ like that the future is bleak indeed.

ozspeaksup
October 15, 2022 5:18 am

if it takes a savage cold winter to get the people to wake up and sack the brussels louts and others then so be it

Trebla
October 22, 2022 5:56 am

One degree Celsius won’t cut it. They should have been burning more coal in anticipation. Let them eat ice.

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