Dear Neighbour EV Letter. Source 2GB, Fair Use, Low Resolution Image to Identify the Subject

Dear Neighbour, Please “Roster Ration” Your Electricity Use so our EVs can Charge

Essay by Eric Worrall

Sydney radio station 2GB has reported a hilarious request from an Electric Vehicle owners group for neighbours to ration their use of electricity, so their EVs can charge.

Dear Neighbour EV Letter
Dear Neighbour EV Letter. Source 2GB, Fair Use, Low Resolution Image to Identify the Subject

I’m guessing the EV owners invested in fast chargers, only to discover the local grid is already maxed out, leading to a shortage of spare electricity for their expensive virtue signalling props.

From the text it doesn’t look like anyone other than EV owners got invited to the meeting which produced this communique. Perhaps they see themselves as the green moral executive of their street.

I leave it to readers to suggest an appropriate response to such a letter. Please ration your use of swearwords.

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Simonsays
October 13, 2022 2:04 am

Well I got kicked off reddit for saying EV owners are wankers. That letter just reaffirms that.

Hope this will past the thought police. But be sure there is no ambiguity, EV cars are a wankers car.

Alexy Scherbakoff
October 13, 2022 2:07 am

4 EV users wanting the rest of the street to ration electricity. That’s my take.
Go f@ck yourself.

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Merrick
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
October 13, 2022 3:11 am

How about, “plug off?”

Bil
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
October 13, 2022 4:25 am

Go Frack Yourselves?

Charles Higley
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
October 13, 2022 8:10 am

Put your charger where the sun doesn’t shine and activate. Even 120 V will work there. No fast charging required.

Reply to  Charles Higley
October 13, 2022 1:27 pm

Sydney (Australia) uses 230 V 🙂

Matthew Bergin
Reply to  StuM
October 13, 2022 6:54 pm

Well they could use a step down transformer.🙃……….😉

Greg Shark
Reply to  Matthew Bergin
October 13, 2022 11:31 pm

step up transformer?

Richard Page
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
October 13, 2022 3:33 pm

“Dear neighbour. You bought your car without checking if there was a reliable electricity supply to charge it? That’s your affair but I won’t be sacrificing my supply to cover up your mistakes. If you feel you need more electricity than is available then might I suggest you invest in a fossil fuel generator? Please don’t bother me with your problems again.”

DonM
Reply to  Richard Page
October 14, 2022 10:44 am

“Dear Neighbors,

My mother-in-law needs a ride to physical therapy at 10 am Mon, Wed, & Fri. She does a little shopping and will need a ride back at 1 pm. If need be, and you don’t have the time to parcel out the scheduling, I can schedule the trips for each of you individually.

The therapy sessions will run through January, if all goes well. After that, I believe she will just need a ride to the stores for shopping/library on a weekend day.

Our efforts, if coordinated willingly together, will allow our seniors to better live a full & meaningful life, and will create a culture that shows them that they are not a burden.

Let me know if I should do the scheduling for you, or if the 4 of you want to manage it for yourselves,

Thanks,

DonM”

Quelgeek
October 13, 2022 2:10 am

If I were still a mischief-making teenager that is exactly the kind of pamphlet I’d troll my street with.

If that is what it is, I take my hat off. Well played kiddo(s)!

Ed Zuiderwijk
October 13, 2022 2:17 am

This is so laughable and off-the-planet that it must be a spoof. If not then God help Australia.

Matt Kiro
Reply to  Eric Worrall
October 13, 2022 3:11 am

We call them moonbats here in Massachusetts

DonK31
Reply to  Matt Kiro
October 13, 2022 3:43 am

I thought they were called Massholes.

Matt Kiro
Reply to  DonK31
October 13, 2022 6:32 am

Massholes is typically referencing Mass drivers, or the general attitude that people there have towards outsiders. Moonbats is the lunatic left , which would include the green fanatics

DonK31
Reply to  Matt Kiro
October 14, 2022 3:55 am

So, to put it into the form of a logical argument:
All natives of Massachusetts are Massholes.
Some Massholes are not Moonbats.

Hivemind
Reply to  Matt Kiro
October 16, 2022 4:35 am

Gotcha. They’re called ‘frightbats’.

Paul C
Reply to  Matt Kiro
October 13, 2022 12:08 pm

In the UK, Moonbat is reserved for the Guardian writer George Monbiot who is a fully signed up apologist, obfuscator, and cheerleader for fake (climate) science manipulators and watermelons. Actually, this is the sort of rationing agenda he would be pushing – after all, you can’t push an EV.

Jeremy Poynton
Reply to  Paul C
October 15, 2022 4:12 am

I owe Moonbat thanks; it was he referring to climate change sceptics as “like Holocaust deniers…” that made me think – this is not science, rather an irrational belief system. Research and reading confirmed that to be the true.

MarkW
Reply to  Paul C
October 16, 2022 7:58 pm

My understanding is that Moonbat is an apologist, obfuscator and cheerleader for any leftwing scheme.

Jeremy POynton
Reply to  Matt Kiro
October 15, 2022 4:10 am

We call the UK’s leading Green Prat, George Monbiot, “Moonbat”…

strativarius
Reply to  Eric Worrall
October 13, 2022 3:12 am

KIndly provided by the evil colonialists….!

Rick C
Reply to  Eric Worrall
October 13, 2022 7:36 pm

They should have just waited a while before buying an EV. I just read that NASA has developed a solid state battery and charging system that will allow recharging an EV in 5 minutes. So a 100 kwh EV battery would be charged at a rate of 1.2 megawatts! That’s 1200 amps at 1000 volts. So the charging hardware would obviously be quite impressive. But I’m not sure my wife could handle hooking up a cable that is as big as your wrist and weighs 50-75 kg. At least it would be easy to spot the charging stations – they’d be the ones connected directly to a substation.

Ed Zuiderwijk
Reply to  Rick C
October 14, 2022 3:11 am

Nothing that a 13amp fuse won’t handle …..

Steven Pfeiffer
Reply to  Rick C
October 14, 2022 9:22 am

Yes; the irony is that the more improvements are made to EV batteries in terms of faster charge times, the more catastrophic it will be for the grid.

At the gas pump, I can add 300 miles of range to my Ford Fusion sedan in about two minutes of actual “fill” time.

To match that time (range added per unit of time) with an average EV would require a 4 megawatt charger!!

One would probably have to wear special safety gear for arc protection if such a charger were even feasible to build.

MarkW
Reply to  Rick C
October 16, 2022 8:00 pm

I can’t imagine how big the cooler would have to be in order to prevent the battery from instantly igniting from the internal heat.

MarkH
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
October 13, 2022 10:54 pm

As someone who lives in Australia… never underestimate the utter stupidity that can emerge. Particularly from the suburban Greens (watermelons). These people are totally disconnected from the reality of the world. They will soon enough have to face the consequences of ignoring reality though. Unfortunately, the rest of us will likely have to face them too.

Hivemind
Reply to  MarkH
October 16, 2022 4:37 am

At which point they’ll blame everybody except themselves.

alastair gray
October 13, 2022 2:22 am

A pamphlet like this makes the proles hot under the collar . Maybe we skeptics should troll our neighbours with similar idiot requests ostensibly from the green Woke-istas with a view to fomenting revolution against green tyranny. It would be straight out of the Saul Alinsky / Naomi Oreskes playbook.

Ron Long
Reply to  alastair gray
October 13, 2022 2:56 am

Ouch! If a Saul Alinsky / Naomi Oreskes playbook existed you would see it being read to children during the school “Drag Queen Hour”, and then placed in the Library next to (swearword rationed) books.

MarkW
Reply to  Ron Long
October 13, 2022 8:35 am

“Rules for Radicals” written by Saul Alinsky.

Jim G.
Reply to  MarkW
October 13, 2022 3:23 pm

Complete with an over the shoulder acknowledgement to Lucifer himself.

Not joking. I had to look it up myself because it was so audacious, yet there it was.

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RexAlan
Reply to  alastair gray
October 13, 2022 3:21 am

Dear neighbors can you please refrain from charging your EV car so that I can cook my evening meal, have a hot shower and do my washing. Yours sincerely ???

BobM
Reply to  RexAlan
October 13, 2022 12:04 pm

Great reply. I would add –

Dear neighbors can you please refrain from charging your EV car so that I can cook my evening meal, have a hot shower and do my washing. Air conditioning my home is more important than how many miles you can drive on your battery. Get a real car.

LdB
Reply to  RexAlan
October 13, 2022 3:18 pm

NO dear neighbours go and buy an ICE car because you and your tokenism and virtue signalling are the problem not us.

Moderately Cross of East Anglia
October 13, 2022 2:28 am

Should have included a request to turn off telephone chargers, computers, televisions, kidney dialysis and other life-saving medical equipment because you know, saving the planet man.

Is “Get Stuffed” sufficiently restrained? Other options available.

lyn roberts
Reply to  Moderately Cross of East Anglia
October 13, 2022 3:13 pm

My husband and I are in Australia, he is a heart failure patient and requires a cpap machine as he forgets to breathe when he sleeps and then his de-fibrulator fires off. He also has a monitor that downloads his pacemaker every night and sends a message to the heart hospital so they can monitor his condition. When he had covid a couple of months ago the monitor transmitted every four hours or so, flashes and clicks so we know it is transmitting, somebody at the heart hospital must have been following him very closely. So EV users get lost.

Moderately Cross of East Anglia
Reply to  lyn roberts
October 14, 2022 1:15 am

Dear Lyn
I am very sorry to hear of your husband’s health problems and wish you both well.

This was exactly the sort of issue I was thinking of in my comment. Actions have consequences and lying about a climate crisis to forward a wholly political and catastrophically destructive agenda which is already and in future will harm billions of innocent people is a crime – pure and simple.

I hope one day those in the media and others profiteering from this false crisis will realise the enormity of their lies.

MarkH
Reply to  Moderately Cross of East Anglia
October 13, 2022 10:56 pm

Maybe also suggest they get a stationary bike generator, or a big hamster wheel to charge their cars with.

Quilter52
October 13, 2022 2:30 am

I live in virtue signaling Canberra, capital city of Australia. Our local government, with its delusions of grandeur, is aiming to ban the sale of non-EVs from 2035. I feel quite certain we will have EV users in our street well before then.

You have no idea how much I am looking forward to receiving a missive like that from those neighbours. Indeed, I am planning my response now. It’s not going to be pretty!

Jtom
Reply to  Quilter52
October 13, 2022 11:36 am

Is that a ban on selling all non-EVs or just new car sales. If it is just for new cars then I predict the good people of Canberra will be able to buy VERY low mileage USED 2035 non-EVs for only a little above the original msrp.

Mike Lowe
Reply to  Jtom
October 13, 2022 12:26 pm

It’s called “doing a Havana”!

Hivemind
Reply to  Jtom
October 16, 2022 4:40 am

They’re only promoting it as a ban on sales of new cars. But don’t look now, I’m sure they’re planning to ban sales of petrol & diesel fuels real soon.

Craig from Oz
Reply to  Quilter52
October 13, 2022 6:50 pm

I live in virtue signaling Canberra

To paraphrase Tim Blair, “the best way to view Canberra is via the rear view mirror of a speeding vehicle”

So, Canberra?

I am sorry, so very very sorry.

Hivemind
Reply to  Craig from Oz
October 16, 2022 4:42 am

Thank you for your sympathy. What we really need is explosives.

Bob B.
October 13, 2022 2:41 am

Dear EV owners,

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Bob B.

Old Man Winter
Reply to  Bob B.
October 13, 2022 5:18 am

It’s worse than we thought!

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Steve G
October 13, 2022 3:02 am

It can’t be real, surely?! I assume it’s a Sydney suburb, being 2GB, but not necessarily. The game we need to play is —guess the suburb. Its gotta be the elites, so I think there is short odds on an Eastern Suburbs locality…Lets have a stab at Neutral Bay…lol!!!

As for what my response would be…Well I’d just go and park my diesel work truck in one of their driveways, start it, lock the door and walk away for an hour or so…

b.nice
Reply to  Steve G
October 13, 2022 3:49 am

A Teal electorate.. self-egrandizes self-centered virtue-worthy ass-wipes.

Charles Higley
Reply to  Steve G
October 13, 2022 8:16 am

If 1200–1500 EVs plugged in at once in NYC, they could bring down the grid. And they want all vehicles to be EV. In other words, they expect to have very few vehicles in NYC when they are done.

Travis
Reply to  Charles Higley
October 13, 2022 4:08 pm

you have the program

Josh
Reply to  Charles Higley
October 13, 2022 4:44 pm

All you need to do is encourage some green mayor to put on an all electric car parade which will mean every car is in use at the same time, is returned home at approximately the same time and plugged in at about the same time….

MarkH
Reply to  Charles Higley
October 13, 2022 11:00 pm

They expect you not to drive anywhere. I.e. You’ll only be “allowed” to charge your car a little bit every week, just so you can get to work and back, but no where else.

The Gulag of the 21st century isn’t a place, it’s a way of life. You’ll own nothing, you’ll be happy and you’ll do as you’re told or your charging allowance will be revoked. Basically, a social credit system that will make the Chinese envious.

Steve G
Reply to  Duker
October 13, 2022 2:44 pm

Ha!..Well of course it is. I should have thought Victoria, the green/socialist capital of Australia. And Brighton of course, Zoe Daniel a teal won the seat..I work in Brighton often..Median house prices around AU$3.4million..Very wealthy bayside Melbourne suburb…Doctors, lawyers etc etc… 

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Dave Fair
Reply to  Steve G
October 13, 2022 4:02 pm

And they want you to pay to upgrade the electrical system to accommodate their virtue signaling.

October 13, 2022 3:09 am

Why at least they don’t offer s.th., like f.e. a weekly free drive to the next mall, an invitation in a good restaurant or so ?

strativarius
Reply to  Krishna Gans
October 13, 2022 3:14 am

Because it is neither selfish, nor narcissistic.

And it is most certainly a me, me, me paradigm

strativarius
October 13, 2022 3:11 am

What a bunch of utter numpties.

Never mind net zero, this is zero self-awareness.

Could Cape York peninsula become host to a new gulag archipelago?

H.R.
Reply to  strativarius
October 13, 2022 4:38 am

Numpties! There’s the word I was searching for.

Numpties with advanced degrees, and not so much as a teaspoon of common sense or self-awareness from the lot of them.

I’m sure some kindly neighbor down the street will come by with a clue stick** and gently beat some sense into them.


**also known as a cricket bat

Felix
Reply to  H.R.
October 13, 2022 8:38 am

I suppose you have some equivalent to clue by fours.

Matt Kiro
October 13, 2022 3:13 am

Put out a pamphlet asking them not to charge their cars at night, since there is no solar at that time, and unplug anytime the wind is under 5kph

Bob B.
Reply to  Matt Kiro
October 13, 2022 4:32 am

Perhaps they should install lunar panels so they can charge at night.

MarkH
Reply to  Matt Kiro
October 13, 2022 11:02 pm

Or if it’s over 40km/h, or if it’s cloudy….

Lint Robb
October 13, 2022 3:24 am

The solution is quite simple, each and every EV operator in this street requires a 20 kW solar system with associated controllers, inverters, distribution, monitoring, battery capacity and three phase EV charger with a switchboard upgrade,
The required technology is widely available for less than AU$50,000.00, which will enable the ‘planet saviors’ to operate their vehicle of choice and remain within the capacity of the existing power grid infrastructure at their locale.
There is a severe logic failure at play here where more than 80% of all power available in New South Wales is derived from non-renewable (classed) fossil fuels, why ever would those claiming to seek absolution from certain fire and damnation engage in the greater use of a network that directly contradicts their stated aims.
Perhaps one day the green electrons will rise up and devour those nasty black electrons and we will all live happily ever after.

Gerry, England
Reply to  Lint Robb
October 13, 2022 5:52 am

Tell them to buy a diesel generator.

william Johnston
Reply to  Gerry, England
October 13, 2022 7:07 am

In the US, they would demand the “government” (i.e.: taxpayer) pay for it. Not sure about Australia.

Duker
Reply to  william Johnston
October 13, 2022 11:38 am

Already expecting the local council to provide more ( faster) chargers

Hivemind
Reply to  william Johnston
October 16, 2022 4:50 am

The taxpayer has already stumped up $5,000 for a business case.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Lint Robb
October 13, 2022 12:14 pm

I heard the other day that if you plug your EV into your basic house circuit, it will take about four days to fully charge the vehicle.

LdB
Reply to  Tom Abbott
October 13, 2022 3:26 pm

Many house and units installation is impossible the wiring can’t handle the load it requires a very expensive running in of new wiring.

Megs
Reply to  LdB
October 13, 2022 9:56 pm

It’s particularly problematic for home units. Each charger would need to be unique to the specified unit number. Not sure how widespread this is, insurance might be problematic. Who wants EV’s parked under their building?

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  Megs
October 14, 2022 6:10 am

In the US there is a universal charging standard. And then there’s Tesla.

Megs
Reply to  D. J. Hawkins
October 14, 2022 2:10 pm

How do you charge the cost of the electricity used by individual EV owners? If six unit owners out of a block of twelve units own EV’s wouldn’t each of these owners need to have their own designated charging bay? They’re not going to get in line for one. Or worse still a block of 75 units or more with half of them owning EV’s and most of them getting home at the same time.

Hopefully the restaurant’s that you’d need to eat at due to the resulting brownout are close by because you can’t take the car as it’s being charged. You also hope that the restaurant has it’s own supersized solar and battery system, otherwise it’s sandwiches.

Charging EV’s will not only add to the cost of the home unit but significantly increase the fire risk too. And will of course decrease energy security. The truth is they don’t want us to have cars at all.

Russ Wood
Reply to  Megs
October 15, 2022 6:14 am

Don’t most restaurants use GAS cooking ranges? Oh, of course, that’s not allowed in CA and some other states!

Megs
Reply to  Russ Wood
October 15, 2022 12:38 pm

Yes of course. Another reason to leave California. For those restaurants that are allowed gas, I guess it would be candlelight dinners. Or maybe solar charged lanterns?

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  Tom Abbott
October 14, 2022 6:08 am

There has been wide-ranging discussion on an electrical forum I frequent regarding EV charging stations for residences here in the US. At 120VAC and 15 amps, a typical branch circuit for US homes, you can pump 14.4 kW-hr into your EV in 10 hours. On that basis, several days is a good estimate.

Since the US distribution system uses center-tapped transformers for all residential you can get 240 VAC with no difficulty, and 30-amp (or higher) circuits at that voltage are common. Since EV loads are considered continuous, you can only charge at a rate of 24 amps (0.8 of breaker rating). The charging station has the smarts to control the charge current based on the breaker it’s attached to. That would let you charge a 100 kW-hr battery from empty to full in about 17 hours, although I doubt anyone would need to do that. Let’s say 50 kW-hr, so here in the US it’s perfectly feasible to charge such a vehicle overnight.

Now, let’s talk about the $4,000 or so you’ll be spending to set up your charging point, let alone if you have only on-street parking…

MarkW
Reply to  D. J. Hawkins
October 16, 2022 8:30 pm

In most of the US, there are two houses per transformer. Would the existing transformers be able to handle both houses charging their EVs at the same time, while both houses are also using the A/C, cooking dinner on an electric stove and heating water? (Ignoring TVs, computers, lights, etc.)

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  MarkW
October 18, 2022 6:51 am

If you had to retrofit existing homes to use all electric appliances and heating, and added EV’s on top of that, the answer is probably “no”. Conversations with linemen on the above-mentioned forum suggest that the power company (POCO) installs the very minimum equipment to cover the estimated loads. Keep in mind that most homes with a 100- or 200-amp service rarely draw as much as half that, and the POCO knows this, so those transformers are sized accordingly. In fact, they are slightly undersized and allowed to run at 110-120% of rated capacity during the very highest peak periods and run very hot, because they will cool down overnight when demand is lowest. It shortens their service life, but the POCO is fine with the trade-off.

There is of course the substation equipment and distribution lines to consider as well. Cable is usually sized to carry the existing loads and future anticipated loads to the end of cable life and no further. If demand is expected to grow 3% per year (ignore compounding) and cable life is 15 years, then the cable will be sized for 145% of current load. Or a little bit less. If you add a significant step change to the demand, you run the risk of cable failure.

strativarius
October 13, 2022 3:42 am

Whatever you do, forget the public consultation….

“Sadiq Khan remains committed to ULEZ expansion despite major backlash

It comes as around two-thirds of respondents in the consultation to expand the ULEZ across all of Greater London reportedly opposed the plan.

With claims from whistle-blowers that negative responses were being largely excluded from the results. Last weekend saw 66 per cent of participants oppose the plans and only 24 per cent in favour, resulting in the GLA Conservatives’ demand the expansion be axed. But in an interview with the Evening Standard, the Mayor shared he was not deterred by the response sharing he believed the consultation was “hijacked” by opponents.”

https://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/23034002.sadiq-khan-remains-committed-ulez-expansion-despite-major-backlash/

He needs money – badly.

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Reply to  strativarius
October 13, 2022 10:00 am

“Ultra Low Emission Zone” – for those who, like me, had to look up that acronym. Not one of the common ones seen here.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  writing observer
October 13, 2022 12:15 pm

Thanksl

Russ Wood
Reply to  strativarius
October 15, 2022 6:18 am

I saw that Khan wanted the ULEZ to cover ALL of “Greater London”. I wonder what will happen when a couple of million car users just REFUSE to pay the fines for ACTUALLY using their vehicles? Idiot laws need to be ignored!

Tom.1
October 13, 2022 3:44 am

Buckley liked to say that “a liberal is someone who wants to reach in while you are taking a shower and adjust the temperature of the water.” It is unfettered dogooderism. It is why liberals are so attracted to the climate change fight; it is a chance to bring their understanding of the social contract to new and unprecedented heights. Electricity rationing is what Buckley’s aphorism looks like in the age of climate change.

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John Bell
Reply to  Tom.1
October 13, 2022 5:40 am

And when I point out their hypocrisy oh boy they have lots of excuses for themselves!

Weylan Ray McAnally
Reply to  Tom.1
October 13, 2022 1:45 pm

The feeling of rightiousness is quite powerful and is actually addicting. Each time a wave of rightious indignation flows over their bodies, their brain releases a dose of dopamine making them feel euphoric.

Craig from Oz
Reply to  Tom.1
October 13, 2022 6:56 pm

A small L liberal: Everything would be better if we all just learned to get along.

Also from the same: Here is a list of everything we need you to agree on.

b.nice
October 13, 2022 3:46 am

Yes little boys.. YOU can roster your power usage amongst yourselves…..

Nothing to do with us. !

Rod Evans
October 13, 2022 3:51 am

What a complete bunch of cults they must be….

Charles Garner
Reply to  Rod Evans
October 13, 2022 7:02 am

Sorry, I think you might have misspelled ’Cults’

Paul Penrose
Reply to  Rod Evans
October 13, 2022 9:24 am

Bravo sir! I got a real laugh of of that one.

ozspeaksup
October 13, 2022 3:53 am

oh lordy, four of them and they will decide a roster..
I would LOVE to read the actual REAL neighbours responses to this gem,
I wont even begin to write what I would , were I there and received this in my letterbox!

Jim Gorman
Reply to  ozspeaksup
October 13, 2022 6:32 am

I would immediately install a number of outside, high powered spotlights “for security don’t you know”, and they would be on every evening/night forthwith.

Curious George
Reply to  ozspeaksup
October 13, 2022 9:10 am

Would this be an argument against any more EVs?

Petit_Barde
October 13, 2022 4:00 am

Most EVs come with pedals so, use them.

Old Man Winter
Reply to  Petit_Barde
October 13, 2022 5:38 am

Tesla’s high-tech solution to California’s grid overload!

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John Garrett
October 13, 2022 4:00 am

Bugger off!

(Sorry, they are the first and only words that come to mind).

strativarius
Reply to  John Garrett
October 13, 2022 4:30 am

John… Blunt!

Alan M
Reply to  strativarius
October 13, 2022 6:48 am

But fair

Sean
October 13, 2022 4:01 am

1. Send them a map locating the high speed charging stations near their home.

2. Tell them to install solar panels so they can charge their cars during the day with green electricity.
-suggest they get a job working nights
-alt suggest, buy 50kw battery storage to charge car at night
– suggest they buy a second EV so one could be charged while the other is driven
– suggest they car pool to work so they could leave their cars home to charge when they are riders.

3. suggest they get a job that allows them to charge at work. Google has this but best get in really early.

Practical workable suggestions.

Old Man Winter
Reply to  Sean
October 13, 2022 4:27 am

Sound advice, but Green Monsters prefer freeloading off of others before
running & ruining their lives, too!

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Y. Knott
Reply to  Sean
October 13, 2022 4:31 am

-suggest they fuddle-off

Charles Garner
Reply to  Sean
October 13, 2022 7:04 am

Excellent – and reasonable – suggestions.

Reply to  Sean
October 13, 2022 10:03 am

4 – invest in good sturdy shoes, and a (canvas) backpack to bring home their groceries from the “organic” market.

Old Man Winter
October 13, 2022 4:04 am

Whooda thunk!

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Brandon Galt
October 13, 2022 4:08 am

How about a letter from the neighborhood gas generator owners group offering the use of the generators when they need a charge and it’s not time for their roster, and the air cons is staying on.

Charles Garner
Reply to  Brandon Galt
October 13, 2022 7:08 am

With a caveat I would demand if my neighbor used my gas generator to kindly refill my tank.

Reply to  Brandon Galt
October 13, 2022 11:43 am

I’ll gladly trade my “roster ration” in return for them giving me 20 gallons of diesel for my electricity generator.

paul courtney
Reply to  Russell Cook
October 13, 2022 12:59 pm

Mr. Garner and Mr. Cook: Clearly, you fellows are not getting into the spirit of this. Your neighbors are trying to save the planet, and you want to burn oil??!! An appropriate response is to thank these folks for being better than you, and promise to try harder to follow their virtuous lead.
Then, at night, you TP their EV!!

Rod Evans
October 13, 2022 4:09 am

In deference to the Premier of Western Australia’s desire to have all communications translated into Aboriginal speak(one) could we see this written in a pamphlet so all residents can understand it.
The response will no doubt be the same, Frack Off! one.

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Jeff in Calgary
Reply to  Rod Evans
October 13, 2022 7:06 am

Did the Australian Aboriginals all speak the same language. In the Americas, there are countless languages the indigenous peoples spoke.

Gerry
Reply to  Jeff in Calgary
October 13, 2022 9:48 am

No. There are hundreds and hundreds of languages. The Premier of Western Australia has NFI.

b.nice
Reply to  Jeff in Calgary
October 13, 2022 1:50 pm

Not only that, but modern English is full of words that could have absolutely zero meaning or equivalent in any aboriginal language.

Megs
Reply to  Jeff in Calgary
October 13, 2022 10:12 pm

There were originally 350 different tribes in Australia, so it’s always funny when people suggest that we should all learn to speak the Aboriginal language. It’s like saying that everyone should learn to speak European. They didn’t have numeracy either, so if they make reference to your ‘mob’ it could mean any number of people.

MarkH
Reply to  Megs
October 13, 2022 11:15 pm

Absurdly, the school my son goes to (along with every school and government building) flies the Australian Flag, Aboriginal Flag and for some reason the Torres Straight Island flag. We are in Victoria, close to 3500km from the Torres Straight Islands and we have absolutely nothing to do with them. It’s just virtue signaling. They are teaching children a fairy tale about aboriginal culture too. The reality is, many times, far to brutal for children to be exposed to. But all they are taught is that aboriginals were good and White men were bad.

Megs
Reply to  MarkH
October 14, 2022 12:13 am

People are exposed to didgeridoo’s, which originated in Northern Queensland I believe, and standard boomerangs, songs and dance that may not be relevant to the part of Australia it’s being played out in, all in the name of Aboriginal culture. Different tribes had different variations of what is seen as Australian culture. But traditional Aboriginal law could only be seen by modern day people as brutal. And sadly it’s still happening in remote parts of Australia and though women and children suffer the most, the women are just as brutal. They used to talk about “secret men’s business”, but there’s plenty of things hidden about women too.

Did you know that the government wants an Aboriginal ‘take’ on all school subjects including math? Numeracy was unknown to them so how’s that going to work? Of course we all know the direction History will take.

MarkW
Reply to  MarkH
October 16, 2022 8:40 pm

According to Megs, there are 350 different tribes, so shouldn’t there be 350 tribal flags? By what right do these white men create a flag and insist that all aboriginal tribes adopt it?

October 13, 2022 4:21 am

My response would be “no problem, however there will be a small fee for my inconvenience”.

Y. Knott
October 13, 2022 4:26 am

“Dear neighbours, regarding your “Roster Ration” request:

No.

Love,
Your neighbours”

Josh Scandlen
October 13, 2022 4:27 am

this has to be fake, right??? RIGHT??? Tell me there aren’t people this insane among us. Please!!!

rah
October 13, 2022 4:31 am

Your planning failure is your problem. I suggest you invest in a gasoline powered generator or buy one of these and get to pedaling!

https://youtu.be/HUr-ACN3ZJ8

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RPercifield
October 13, 2022 4:55 am

Just looking at this flier, it must have been written by a very young poorly educated non-STEM graduate. The infrastructure for electricity distribution was not from the 1822’s. This statement is so stupid that I can only assume it is from a satire site, otherwise, someone should request a refund on their education………

Charles Garner
Reply to  RPercifield
October 13, 2022 7:10 am

I put that down to exaggeration for effect. Likely their electric lines were not installed this year either. Facts be damned.

OldGreyGuy
Reply to  RPercifield
October 13, 2022 6:39 pm

Since it was Brighton in Melbourne and as that city was not founded until 1835 then they obviously have their heads placed in a very dark space if they think the electric infrastructure dates from 1822.

Perhaps they could revise their dates after looking at this?

14 fascinating facts about the history of electricity in Australia

H.R.
October 13, 2022 5:00 am

Dear EV owners,

You certainly have our full support of your efforts to Save The Planet.

We, the non-EV owners, have developed a schedule whereby EV owners can charge their vehicles while all of your neighbors abstain from using any and all electric appliances.

For your convenience, we will stop using electricity between the hours of 6:00 pm and 11:pm on all of the days that don’t have a ‘Y’ in them.

It comes as a bit of a sacrifice to us, the non-EV owning neighbors, but we all agreed it was the least we could do to help you Save The Planet.

Sincerely,

Your non-EV owning neighbors

Crisp
October 13, 2022 5:20 am

Their arrogance is exceeded only by their ignorance. I wonder if they know when the first electric motor was demonstrated, when the first dynamo was demonstrated and by whom. I doubt if they know when and where the first electrical generation and distribution system was built and by whom, while I’m sure almost everyone here has the answers straight away.
No doubt they all vote Teal and have never had a job outside of the public service.

John B
October 13, 2022 5:21 am

Appropriate response: you’re ‘avin’ a larf.

J Furst
October 13, 2022 5:27 am

Thanks for the laugh…not so much “ha, ha” , but more like “oooooH!, as in a sick joke.
However, there is a serious issue about the “grid”. The distribution system is NOT being examined enough.

Even though we are finally waking up to the issues of the transmission grid and the extraordinary cost of incorporating intermittent, over-valued “green” energy, we are not showing the likely more costly re-building of distribution circuits.

From local load studies and experience, distribution systems are
(can be) the highest cost/coincident or peak kW , KVA, in the electric system… from highest labor costs per customer or coincident or peak kW
…and have historically been modified slowly in small percentages of the system.

Rapid changes in customer loads by law/regulation will force utilities to modify distribution service at the individual customer and back through the system. And force customers to expand, modify service entrances and circuits.

Even Time-of-Day rates can effect voltage-limited rural lines and thermal-limited urban lines.
So, what will EVs, solar panels, customer owned generators, …do?

vboring
October 13, 2022 5:31 am

They should charge at the same time and trip the service. The utility will replace it with a better one.

LdB
Reply to  vboring
October 13, 2022 3:31 pm

No it won’t “domestic service” is defined and the utilities will be compliant. Either the owner pays or some government scheme and grant would need to be available.

Steve Case
October 13, 2022 5:34 am

The small sacrifice today will help put an end to global warming and the associated issues…
_________________________________________________________

By the way, your tree shades our roof, and we want to put in solar panels …

Kevin kilty
October 13, 2022 5:41 am

“Dear Neighbor,

Since you have decided to purchase this vehicle which uses a common resource intensively without asking any of us what we thought about this new burden, we suggest you drive less.

Thank you,
The Other Neighbors”

Eric, I don’t know what building construction is like in Australia, but in modern U.S. neighborhoods most of the houses have a 200 Amp service which itself limits fast charging. To run a household all on electricity, including charging a car or maybe even two, might require a 500 Amp service — new wiring all over the place including the feed to the neighborhood, new substations, all the way back to a bigger Hoover Dam adapter.

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Bryan A
Reply to  Kevin kilty
October 13, 2022 6:48 am

Just a dedicated 480V service (a 220V like for an electric dryer will charge twice as fast as the typical 120V household plug) but a 480V secondary requires the installation of a specific Transformer instead of the typical single phase 120/240V so most Transformers would need replacing to go 480V (you could try parallel 240V services)

Brad-DXT
Reply to  Bryan A
October 13, 2022 9:04 am

That would require the charger be a 480V rated device. Does anyone make one?

How many people could afford having 2 service entrances into their home?
Would the local juristriction having authority even allow it?

This is another example of a tremendous amount of capital trying to solve a non-problem.

niceguy
Reply to  Brad-DXT
October 17, 2022 6:58 pm

You can’t have one mono and one tri meter?

Brad-DXT
Reply to  niceguy
October 17, 2022 10:26 pm

I think you are trying to say single phase and three phase when Bryan was postulating about voltage.
The only advantage with a higher voltage is less current so smaller wires. Still the same power usage.
Since the rest of the home’s appliances would probably not be rated for 480V, you would need a separate transformer with an upgraded service entrance or another dedicated service entrance.

You can get anything you want if the local authority allows it and you pay for it (handsomely).

Slowroll
Reply to  Bryan A
October 13, 2022 12:27 pm

The other, bigger problem for them is that 480V is 3-phase and is not available at all most places, generally only in industrial areas.

niceguy
Reply to  Slowroll
October 17, 2022 7:10 pm

Few French homes has 3 phases 400 V , but it’s possible.
I think it’s common in Germany.

Mark Whitney
October 13, 2022 5:48 am

Chuckle.

Right-Handed Shark
October 13, 2022 5:56 am

Dear Neighbour..

I note by your choice of vehicle that you are not concerned in the slightest by the exploitation of child labour in African cobalt mines, or Uighur slaves in Chinese factories, nor indeed by the rape of the planet for the extra materials required by “eco-friendly” vehicles. Are you aware that if you were to take away all of the materials that did not involve those nasty fossil fuels for the mining, refining, processing, transportation and final assembly of your “planet saver” you would be left with precisely nothing? So, if you want a reliable source of electricity to keep your virtue signaller mobile I suggest you buy yourself a diesel generator, or wait until they invent a battery that can be charged by your sense of self-righteousness. Until then be sure to let me know when your preferred charging time is so I can suck every electron from the grid I can manage during that period.

Thanks,

Your caring, sharing neighbour.

H.R.
Reply to  Right-Handed Shark
October 13, 2022 6:10 pm

Right-Handed Shark: “[…] or wait until they invent a battery that can be charged by your sense of self-righteousness.”


👍 👍 Positively golden.

Ulick Stafford
October 13, 2022 6:02 am

When I was building a house many years ago utility limited me to one electric shower. Agreed to two so long as both went through one circuit breaker, i.e. only possible to use one at a time.
And that is nothing compared to load of fast EV charger. Throw in electric house heating as well and it is clear that this does not add up without a major increase in grid. And at the same time they are closing proper power stations and adding windmills.
The whole thing makes no sense unless your goal is to cause hardship and chaos.

Randle Dewees
Reply to  Ulick Stafford
October 13, 2022 7:12 am

Electric shower? That phrase is just scary to me.

Paul C
Reply to  Randle Dewees
October 13, 2022 12:34 pm

A common domestic device in the UK (and other countries) where a dedicated circuit of up to13kW is used. An electric kettle is probably more dangerous.

LdB
Reply to  Randle Dewees
October 13, 2022 3:33 pm

They are called electric instantaneous water heaters google 🙂

MarkW
Reply to  LdB
October 16, 2022 8:50 pm

Sounds like what I’ve always called tank-less water heater.

Tim Gorman
Reply to  MarkW
October 17, 2022 12:24 pm

Yep.

Paul Hurley (aka PaulH)
October 13, 2022 6:06 am

Might I suggest they go hybrid?

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Tom Halla
October 13, 2022 6:18 am

Dear dweeb.
As it is your virtue signalling that requires that new service be run to this neighborhood, it is your exclusive responsibility to purchase such new service.

Coeur de Lion
October 13, 2022 6:26 am

They are only exporting their emissions to the power station so the planet remains unsaved. How sad.

Insufficiently Sensitive
October 13, 2022 6:38 am

This is the California version, three weeks old already:

Twinkle twinkle little star, and
Along comes Newsom in his ‘lectric car, saying
Hey, you Fresnoids, better shut down your AC, ’cause it
Aint a-gonna leave sufficient volts for ME.

Jim Gorman
October 13, 2022 6:39 am

All I can think of is The Tragedy Of The Commons. With a common resource it should be share and share alike. Until some jerk tries to add an extra cow!

Pinball Preparedness
October 13, 2022 7:00 am

Well, maybe they should charge their cars with their solar panels, huh? LOL!

RevJay4
October 13, 2022 7:27 am

My response would have to be a yard sign in the shape of a hand giving the “bird”, with the words ‘to EV owners’ in bright color.
Virtue signalers need to be have their stupidity thrown back in their faces.

Mike Smith
October 13, 2022 8:59 am

The problem is… these idiots really do believe their EV is going to end global warming and save the planet.

Shoki Kaneda
October 13, 2022 9:21 am

Does GFY translate to Aussie?

LdB
Reply to  Shoki Kaneda
October 13, 2022 3:34 pm

Yes

Joel
October 13, 2022 9:23 am

We all have to sacrifice for the common good!
BTW, how much $$$ were the EV owners paid to buy their vehicles?
From what I just read on line, they only get a few thousand dollars from several state governments. Not much, really.
If I were in that neighborhood, I would make sure the EV owners were charging their cars during the day when there is plenty of cheap, clean solar energy, or at night only when there is plenty of wind generated electricity.

Paul Penrose
October 13, 2022 9:36 am

I have a sign in my home office that says “Poor planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.” When my children were growing up I pointed to that sign a lot. They really hated it until they got old enough to enter the workforce and/or have their own children. Unfortunately the entitled EV owners in the story never grew up.

jeffery P
October 13, 2022 9:51 am

I’m curious, how do EV owners *without* off-street parking charge EVs?

Slowroll
Reply to  jeffery P
October 13, 2022 12:29 pm

Drop an extension cord from the 15th floor?

October 13, 2022 9:56 am

Not my neighbors, so I shall not concern myself. (If they were, I would simply paint a green swastika where they park their EVs.)

Come to think of it, though, they must be charging their flying saucers – last of the aliens that landed there way back in 1822, 66 years before any public electric service was installed in Australia.

Jack
October 13, 2022 9:59 am

These 4 EV owners have a worldly ambition: “To put an end to the global warming”
Not less !
Thanks God, being ludicrous is no more deadly since long ago.

LdB
Reply to  Jack
October 13, 2022 3:35 pm

Their continued existence is in opposition to that lofty ambition 🙂

Jeff Labute
October 13, 2022 10:22 am

Dear 2022 EV owner with 1822 infrastructure. Please pay to upgrade the infrastructure, and do mine too while you’re at it.

Slowroll
Reply to  Jeff Labute
October 13, 2022 12:31 pm

1822 lighting source was whale oil. Not enough whales these days to kill for it.

LdB
Reply to  Slowroll
October 13, 2022 3:36 pm

There numbers are back up these days he trick is to beat the Japanese to them 🙂

Kevin McNeill
October 13, 2022 10:48 am

Dear EV loons, Foff!

Jtom
October 13, 2022 11:02 am

Ration my electricity so you can charge your car? That depends on when I can use your car to drive to the shops.

Jacek Marchel
October 13, 2022 11:42 am

This is going to be obligatory soon. Possibly with fines and jail time for violators. Everything under the disguise of “being green”. Just like CO2 is now called “toxic”.

Gunga Din
October 13, 2022 12:40 pm

“Dear EV owners on my street,
I’m willing to help you solve your EV dilemma.
Please find on the reverse side a map showing the nearest solar and wind “power” farms.
May I suggest you move to a neighborhood near them and plug in there.
If you choose not to move, then regarding your request that I change my life to accommodate your life choices, may I request that you take your request and blow it out your ass.
Sincerely and sanely,
Your Neighbor”

Olen
October 13, 2022 1:52 pm

They should charge their EVs with their virtue and leave their neighbors alone. I may have used the word their too much!

David Long
October 13, 2022 2:31 pm

Cuts both ways

great.jpg
October 13, 2022 2:32 pm

Most EV owners see themselves as existing on a higher moral plane than the rest of society, whom they refer to as ‘deplorables’, and regard themselves as having a moral right to special privileges that do not apply to ‘deplorables’.

Jim G.
October 13, 2022 3:17 pm

LOL.
our sacrifices will put an end to global warming.

Bwaahaaahaaa

So; I need to put off washing my clothes so you can charge your car?
Methinks not.

Elliot W
October 13, 2022 3:37 pm

EV car, go f#^k yourself.

(With apologies to Snake Island, Ukraine)

Pat from kerbob
October 13, 2022 3:39 pm

I would reply with a list of costs that they need to pay, in advance, in cash, in return for me limiting my time of use.

Everything is a negotiation, especially with stupid people
If they have an EV they can afford it.

Mark Shulgasser
October 13, 2022 3:53 pm

There will be no polite requests about this matter once the Australian gov’t nationalizes electricity production.

Bob
October 13, 2022 5:37 pm

I have only one thing to say to these weirdos, take a hike. That is as civil as I can be.

Dean
October 13, 2022 7:27 pm

I am definitely doing this in the streets around here! Fabulous trolling.

Gary Pate
October 13, 2022 7:48 pm

I would invite them to enjoy a nice hot cup of “Go f**k yourself”

Dean
October 13, 2022 8:11 pm

Those convicts sure got things going pretty quickly.

And there I was thinking all they were interested in were rum rations!

Walter Marty
October 13, 2022 9:52 pm

Reply suggested by a friend:

Dear Neighbour,
Let me congratulate and thank you most sincerely for your virtuous and selfless sacrifice of spurning an efficient and convenient CO2-belching conveyance for a range-challenged but otherwise heavenly clean chariot in order to save the planet for us, your knuckle-dragging neanderthal neighbours. However, I am somewhat surprised that you are stooping as low as to plug your ‘virtuemobile’ into ‘our’ electricity grid which is reliant on the CO2-belching coal and gas-fired powerstations when the ‘fairy dust’ takes a nap. Naughty, naughty! I expect that someone with your obvious green credentials would have invested in sufficient solar arrays and maybe even a whirligig or two to harness the hot air emanating from the local EV owners association meetings, to provide all the ‘heavenly juice’ needed to keep your ‘pride and joy’ on the road. I trust that a staunch green warrior like you will not mind the slight inconvenience of having to ‘fill up’ your chariot exclusively with ‘fairy dust’ when it is available, i.e. during daylight hours when the sun is shining brightly and/or the brise is stiff. Let me assure you that, we, your unenlightend retrobates will line the street cheering you on as you hop on your bike (not e-bike) to pedal to and from work on days when the heavens are not on your side. After all, we are all in this together and we recognise and applaud sacrifice and true grit when we see it.
Yours Sincerely,
Eva Wankel (aka Rotary Engine)
Motto: More CO2 for a Greener Planet!

ozspeaksup
October 14, 2022 4:41 am

today our town where NO ONE owns an ev apparently had a charger installed
for the “tourism”benefits
thing is.. our only claim to fame is a lake thats weedfilled mozzie bothered and stinks to high heaven
oxy levels so bad they refused to release fish in so no tourism via fish carnival again this yr
couldnt make up the idiocy..if you were sane anyway

chadb
October 14, 2022 8:34 am

Let’s start by rationing the highest individual electricity consumption items.
1) EVs
2) Literally anything else

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