Castle Romeo nuclear test (yield 11 Mt) on Bikini Atoll. Russian dictator Vladimir Putin Kremlin.ru, CC BY 4.0, via Wikimedia Commons. Student protestors in 2013.

UN WMO Head: “From climate perspective, the war in Ukraine may be seen as a blessing”

Essay by Eric Worrall

h/t Dr. Willie Soon; United Nations World Meteorological Organization head Petteri Taalas seeing the climate change benefits of war in Europe.

Weather chief: Ukraine war may be ‘blessing’ for climate

By JAMEY KEATEN

GENEVA (AP) — The head of the U.N. weather agency says the war in Ukraine “may be seen as a blessing” from a climate perspective because it is accelerating the development of and investment in green energies over the longer term — even though fossil fuels are being used at a time of high demand now.

The comments from Petteri Taalas, secretary-general of the World Meteorological Organization, came as the world is facing a shortfall in energy needs — prompted in part by economic sanctions against key oil and natural gas producer Russia — and prices for fossil fuels have risen.

That has led some countries to turn quickly to alternatives like coal. But rising prices for carbon-spewing fuels like oil, gas and coal have also made higher-priced renewable energies like solar, wind and hydrothermal more competitive in the energy marketplace.

“From the five- to 10-year timescale, it’s clear that this war in Ukraine will speed up our consumption of fossil energy, and it’s speeding up this green transition,” Taalas said.

“So we are going to invest much more in renewable energy, energy-saving solutions,” and some small-scale nuclear reactors are likely to come online by 2030 as “part of the solution,” he said.

“So from climate perspective, the war in Ukraine may be seen as a blessing,” Taalas added.

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-business-united-nations-weather-ece2a951b35fe8be9a7090cd93b3a0ac

From a “climate perspective”, there’s no end to the “benefits” war can bring. I mean, why don’t we take it further, and consider the possibility that if the Ukraine war escalates into a all out global nuclear exchange.

A post nuclear apocalypse world would experience a range of climate benefits. Fossil fuel consumption would plummet, because most of the consumers would be dead, and the wrecked infrastructure would be incapable of sustaining substantial amounts of fossil fuel for consumption. There would even be a geo-engineering benefit. Ash from the nuclear blasts driven into the stratosphere would form a cooling blanket around the Earth, reflecting some of the sunlight straight back into space before it has a chance to warm the planet.

Personally I prefer to see things from the “human perspective”, in which the Ukraine war is a horrible tragedy which is leading to the needless deaths of 10s of thousands of people caught up in the conflict, or civilians murdered by missile strikes against homes, shopping centres, hospitals and schools. The “human perspective” in which people who make grossly misanthropic comments about how good the war is probably aren’t suitable for jobs which involve public relations. But maybe that’s just me.

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Tom Halla
October 12, 2022 2:03 pm

Some of the Greens would think war is a good thing.

Pauleta
Reply to  Tom Halla
October 12, 2022 2:05 pm

Some? All of them.

trevor collins
Reply to  Pauleta
October 12, 2022 2:12 pm

another ‘racked pot’, just like Jacinda in New Zealand! from Trevor.

Bryan A
Reply to  Tom Halla
October 12, 2022 5:48 pm

A suggestion to…Petteri Taalas, secretary-general of the World Meteorological Organization … Before you evacuate your misguided thoughts onto the world news canvas, visit eastern Ukraine, spend a week in Donetsk then another in Mariupol and a third in Luhansk. Help identify the New Mass Grave Sites with Thousands of Ukrainians who should disagree with you. Then try to travel (on foot as many Ukrainian had to after the Russia Invasion) to Kyiv and see the civilian destruction there. Then tell us just how much of a blessing the war has been.

LdB
Reply to  Tom Halla
October 12, 2022 7:15 pm

The extension of this is why is Biden upset with the Saudi’s they are providing less oil per year to burn which is exactly what the greentards and Bidens own policies demands.

https://www.gulf-insider.com/biden-to-review-relationship-with-saudi-after-opec-production-cuts/

It’s the old story everyone wants to save the planet except when it costs them money personally.

Last edited 3 months ago by LdB
observa
Reply to  LdB
October 12, 2022 7:55 pm

Yes the Saudis and Putin’s lot must be the real heroes of the XR types by reducing oil and gas supplies. Not to mention chucking those white males of low education on the industrial scrapheap-
The Elites Have Stopped Hiding Their Hatred of the Working Class | Opinion (msn.com)
What’s not to like for lefties?

KcTaz
Reply to  LdB
October 13, 2022 12:10 am

Ldb,
I really don’t think the Saudis are too interested in saving the planet, nor do they, obviously, oppose fossil fuels. Hypocrites, they are not.

They want to make money and Biden has provided them with a Golden Opportunity–literally. Biden is a tool, a traitor and a tool. He follows orders, though, he screws even that up on occassion since he’s so demented.

CHARLES EDWARD GARNER JR
Reply to  KcTaz
October 13, 2022 2:14 pm

Biden is a tool, a traitor and a tool fool. Fixed it for ya.

Mohatdebos
Reply to  CHARLES EDWARD GARNER JR
October 13, 2022 5:46 pm

Is he going to punish himself for canceling the Keystone Pipeline?

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  LdB
October 13, 2022 4:16 am

More to the point, when it might cost “the party” votes.

Willem Post
Reply to  LdB
October 13, 2022 2:46 pm

Biden is planning to punish the Saudis for providing less fossil fuel!
The Saudis should be lauded, not punished!

Oh, but wait!

There is an election coming up and ultra-high inflation and increasing gas prices at the pump are vote losers for the Socialist Democrats all over the US

TonyG
Reply to  Willem Post
October 14, 2022 7:05 am

What perplexes me about the Saudi’s actions is that I am certain they know the impact their actions will have on our election so I can’t help but wonder exactly what their motivation is. (One thought is that it might have something to do with Iran)

Neo
Reply to  Tom Halla
October 13, 2022 2:35 pm

Regional nuclear war could trigger global cooling and famine
Even a limited nuclear conflict could spark “unprecedented climate change,” U.S. government scientists warn.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/culture/article/110223-nuclear-war-winter-global-warming-environment-science-climate-change
This could get them their cooling in short order.

Last edited 3 months ago by Neo
ResourceGuy
October 12, 2022 2:15 pm

Bernie would not disagree with that.

Bryan A
Reply to  ResourceGuy
October 12, 2022 5:52 pm

Uncle Bernie isn’t disagreeable at all, in fact, just play some music with a stroke beat and he will become very animated
Kinda like this

jeffery p
October 12, 2022 2:20 pm

“You can’t make an omelet with breaking some eggs”

Joseph Stalin

atticman
Reply to  jeffery p
October 12, 2022 2:26 pm

I don’t like eggs so I never eat omlettes…

n.n
Reply to  atticman
October 12, 2022 4:32 pm

mmm, Green eggs… and ham.

Felix
Reply to  jeffery p
October 12, 2022 2:43 pm

Where’s the omelet? — George Orwell

Pillage Idiot
Reply to  Felix
October 12, 2022 2:49 pm

It is always in the same place as the “increasing” chocolate rations.

Mike McMillan
Reply to  Pillage Idiot
October 12, 2022 4:09 pm

comment image

bubbabird
Reply to  Mike McMillan
October 12, 2022 5:35 pm

That is so very clever! Every line in that book is double-meaning (or should I have said double-entendre? However (Wiki):
The phrase has not been used in French for centuries and would be ungrammatical in modern French. No exact equivalent exists in French, whose similar expressions (mot/expression à double entente) and (mot/expression à double sens) don’t have the suggestiveness of the English expression.

Adam Davidson
Reply to  Felix
October 12, 2022 3:07 pm

Yes that is Socialism
The eggs break but you never see the omelette.

KcTaz
Reply to  Adam Davidson
October 13, 2022 12:12 am

“Food lines are good things.”
Bernie Sanders

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  KcTaz
October 13, 2022 4:38 am

Let’s see how he feels about that when he finds himself at the end of one…

CHARLES EDWARD GARNER JR
Reply to  AGW is Not Science
October 13, 2022 2:16 pm

The tail end of…

Gunga Din
Reply to  Felix
October 12, 2022 3:10 pm

Grind up some grasshoppers, crickets, roaches and various other insects (for spice).
Mix it with tofu flour until you have a paste.
Wrap it around yourself.
Lie down in a tanning booth for about 12 hours.
You now have a Soylent Green Omelet!
Enjoy!!

n.n
Reply to  Gunga Din
October 12, 2022 4:34 pm

A Fetal-American pate, perhaps, served with a nice Chianti. Wicked.

Reply to  jeffery p
October 12, 2022 4:40 pm

When it comes to climate – no one studies the theory. There is no omelet. There are no eggs. Or rather – the biggest egg is not in the omelet. It is not just egg shells that are broken.

Water vapor is the #1 Greenhouse gas. It does 3/4s of the heating according to GHG theory.

If you can believe the theory.

If the theory is correct water vapor alone will destroy the planet.

Craig from Oz
Reply to  M Simon
October 12, 2022 9:05 pm

Also, eggs are racist… probably… Let me check Twitter. Twitter knows what is what.

October 12, 2022 2:28 pm

Petteri Taalas, the Head of UN WMO is confirmed from this statement to be a genuine Monster Raving Loonie. Apocalypse, here we come.

KcTaz
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
October 13, 2022 12:14 am

Joe Biden said Armageddon was coming, just before he trotted off for a Weekend at Delaware, again.
Probably a distinction without a difference, though.

RickWill
October 12, 2022 2:35 pm

Joe Hockey has warned his current clients that nuclear war is a talking point again amongst international leaders. Most outside Australia may not know him but he was Australia’s previou US ambassador and Australian Treasurer prior to that.

Mike
Reply to  RickWill
October 12, 2022 5:34 pm

Yes he said a 30% chance of a tactical nuke from the Russkies. Personally I still don’t think Putin is suicidal – yet…..

KcTaz
Reply to  Mike
October 13, 2022 12:16 am

I don’t think Putin is suicidal, at all. I am wondering about Biden, though.

Richard Page
Reply to  RickWill
October 12, 2022 10:48 pm

Meanwhile the intelligence chiefs are of the opinion that Putin is not considering using nuclear weapons. Yet.

Felix
October 12, 2022 2:42 pm

I dunno, where else you gonna get jokes like “Putin on the blitz” or “Putin on the fritz”? You just gotta look on the bright side of life, Brian.

Ed Zuiderwijk
October 12, 2022 2:44 pm

These activists simply have no shame.

John in Oz
October 12, 2022 2:50 pm

Would declaring war on the WMO be beneficial according to this idiot’s arguments?

MarkW
Reply to  John in Oz
October 12, 2022 3:04 pm

Depends on whether you have to go nuclear.

Felix
Reply to  MarkW
October 12, 2022 3:41 pm

They’ve already gone full retard.

Gunga Din
October 12, 2022 3:02 pm

Under another thread I made a joke about launching nukes would be cheaper than any geoengineering proposals. (The nukes are already paid for.)
These guys can’t take a joke.
(Guess I could have tried to fit in “don’t know sh*t from Shinola” but I’m a bit tired at the moment.)

KcTaz
Reply to  Gunga Din
October 13, 2022 12:17 am

Good one, Gunga!

tgasloli
October 12, 2022 3:03 pm

Let’s wait to see how everyone feels about their winter heating bills before declaring success on the green energy and therefore energy poverty lifestyle.

Retired_Engineer_Jim
Reply to  tgasloli
October 13, 2022 10:08 am

I asked a UK-American neighbor how her parents were doing back in the old country with the high energy prices. She said that Old Age Pensioners have received a 400 pound Sterling on-time payment, and are receiving 300 pound Sterling subsidies every month. Is that so? If so, how can the UK sustain that?

niceguy
October 12, 2022 3:05 pm

The benefit is that dependency on pipes are seen as an issue…
That’s all. Macron still says “we are late on offshore WIND”.
I’m fine being late!

Dave Andrews
Reply to  niceguy
October 13, 2022 7:03 am

Earlier this year Wind Europe was warning that with all the planned offshore wind farms and the growing size of the turbines there will soon be a worldwide shortage of the three types of construction vessels required to build them.

Retired_Engineer_Jim
Reply to  Dave Andrews
October 13, 2022 10:08 am

There may be a shortage of space to deploy them properly.

n.n
October 12, 2022 3:08 pm

A wicked solution to a purported hard problem? Sure, why not. He subscribes to an ethical religion. All’s fair in lust and abortion.

Mike McMillan
October 12, 2022 4:10 pm

Nukes are overrated.

n.n
Reply to  Mike McMillan
October 12, 2022 4:36 pm

Yes, dump the nukes, go hypersonic without the mutagenic effects.

Craig from Oz
Reply to  n.n
October 12, 2022 9:07 pm

Hypersonic is the delivery method.

‘Nuke’ is the bit that goes bang.

Unless you are hoping your hypersonic is so fast that it becomes a pure kinetic energy weapon I assume you are going to add some sort of ‘bang’ to your missiles.

rhs
Reply to  Craig from Oz
October 13, 2022 8:57 am

Rods from God project from the 60’s comes to mind.

Retired_Engineer_Jim
Reply to  Craig from Oz
October 13, 2022 10:11 am

There is the shock wave – it goes bang. (Usually bang-bang)

Craig from Oz
Reply to  n.n
October 12, 2022 9:13 pm

Also the mutagenic effects don’t come from the radiation. Radiation cause ghouls. Super Mutants are caused by exposure to FEV (Forced Evolution Virus).

Probably.

Fallout Lore can be a bit fuzzy. I blame Vault Tech.

Michael Jankowski
October 12, 2022 4:12 pm

PoliticoEurope just ranked Putin #1 on their Green28 Class of 2023 because of how they think the invasion of Ukraine will cause Europe to move away from fossil fuels.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Michael Jankowski
October 13, 2022 4:24 am

upvoted for the laugh;-)

Joe Gordon
October 12, 2022 4:46 pm

At some point, the United Nations metastasized and became exactly what it was formed to fight against.

Now, it’s just an antisemitic, anti-science bundle of twitchy bureaucrats who crave power and would celebrate if full-scale nuclear war began.

It’s long past time to convert the New York office to a prison or an insane asylum.

AndyHce
Reply to  Joe Gordon
October 12, 2022 10:46 pm

house the homeless

KcTaz
Reply to  Joe Gordon
October 13, 2022 12:19 am

I’d prefer Putin’s first and last nuke hit the UN building, preferably, while it was full and they were having a climate change conference. That would solve most of the world’s problems right there.

Bob
October 12, 2022 5:22 pm

Eric, you were to kind to these rascals. Think about it, the leaders of an organization specifically put in place to work for peace and the betterment of people looking for the bright side of a useless war. A war that has killed countless people and injured or displace many more is held up as a tool to advance renewable energy, fighting an imaginary crisis that hasn’t killed or hurt anyone. The US needs to get out of the UN and the UN needs to get out of the US.

Retired_Engineer_Jim
Reply to  Bob
October 13, 2022 10:13 am

Let’s put the UN Headquarters on South Georgia Island, move all their other offices there, and then blow up the harbor.

Mike
October 12, 2022 5:29 pm

The comments from Petteri Taalas, secretary-general of the World Meteorological Organization,

The definition of climate is average weather over 30 years because that’s how much data we have”

……..World Meteorological Organization

John Hultquist
Reply to  Mike
October 12, 2022 7:26 pm

Like 2°, 97%, and “ice free” = 1 m sq.km, 30 years is a pulled from nowhere number.
[Actually, it was chosen for practical reasons in mid-1930s; not intended to define climate.]

bubbabird
October 12, 2022 5:29 pm

These Greenies are totally insane, and completely uncivilized.

Ted
October 12, 2022 5:38 pm

“rising prices for carbon-spewing fuels like oil, gas and coal have also made higher-priced renewable energies like solar, wind and hydrothermal more competitive in the energy marketplace.“

Wait, a UN official admitting that ‘renewables’ cost more than fossil fuels? When spewing fictions it’s hard to keep all the stories consistent.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Ted
October 13, 2022 4:26 am

funny? the cost of making the NOT actually renewables when a huge amount of manufacturing is down due to lack of fossil fuels..? wonder how they work that?

Doonman
October 12, 2022 6:29 pm

A nuclear exchange is carbon free and removes carbon polluting humans in mass, which is what the globalists want. Sure, it will get hotter for a bit, but that will all go out to space quickly unlike carbon. Malthusians will be thrilled too, at least for a moment.

Petit_Barde
October 12, 2022 8:47 pm

Eco activist :

  • psychopath who wants to ban nuclear power plants but promotes nuclear world war.
James F. Evans
October 12, 2022 9:28 pm

Jiminy christmas,

Anything for the great reset.

Ugh.

Rod Evans
October 12, 2022 11:48 pm

If war was ever a good thing, we would not spend so much effort trying to prevent it would we? These Green advocates/opinion makers are pure evil.
The very fact anyone could present such a crass piece of logic, shows us what passes for reason and considered thoughts, within the UN and its agencies.

KcTaz
Reply to  Rod Evans
October 13, 2022 12:26 am

“If war was ever a good thing, we would not spend so much effort trying to prevent it would we?”

Sorry, Rod, I haven’t noticed the US spending much, if any, money to prevent wars. If we have, it sure has been a waste. Trump was the first President in 40 years not to start a new war. Maybe, the US not starting wars is the solution?

It’s been that way for a very long time. Will Rogers died in 1944, so his quotes are from an era before ours. Funny thing is, his observations are just as relevant today as they were then.

“There is only one sure way of stopping war, that is to see that every “statesman” has the same chance to reflect after it’s over that these boys making “poppies” have had.”
Will Rogers

“People talk peace but men give their life’s work to war. It won’t stop ‘til there is as much brains and scientific study put to aid peace as there is to promote war.”
Will Rogers

Rod Evans
Reply to  KcTaz
October 13, 2022 12:58 am

This basic sound advice comes from a far more bygone age .
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
Translates as: If you desire peace prepare for war.
On that basis the USA spends more on peace preparations than all of the Western nations within NATO combined.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Rod Evans
October 13, 2022 4:10 am

The goal should be for your nation to be so strong that nobody would dare attack you. Then you have peace.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  KcTaz
October 13, 2022 4:07 am

“Maybe, the US not starting wars is the solution?”

So you think policemen are the problem, I assume.

Do you know what happens to the neighborhood when the police leave? Bad things happen.

Maybe we should all do like Chicago’s mayor and just turn our streets over to the criminal gangs. Maybe the criminal gangs will terminate their criminal activities voluntarily. Is that your hope?

Do murderous dictators behave this way? I don’t think so. Murderous dictators need to be stopped. Somebody has to do it. Otherwise, the murderous dictartors are emboldened and continue the destruction.

I’m sorry, but that’s just how the world works. Criminals, whether local or international, don’t voluntarily stop their criminality. It is up to outside forces to make them stop. In our current world, the United States is the policeman, even when a fool like Joe Biden is running the show.

Retired_Engineer_Jim
Reply to  KcTaz
October 13, 2022 10:17 am

And what war has Biden started?

KcTaz
October 13, 2022 12:05 am

I noticed that since the start of this war and Biden imposing his idiotic sanctions on Russia to include oil and gas and and the stupid Europeans going along with them how very much this war fit the Climate Change agenda. Peace would have meant a continuing flow of oil and gas from Russia and of food from both, after all. I did not think it was by accident and even wondered if Boris Johnson flying to Ukraine in March 2022 where he torpedoed the peace deal between Zelensky and Putin was on orders from these same Climate nutter psychopaths.
Nothing that has happened since has done anything but confirm my suspicions. Now, here is proof. Thank you, Eric. It is fascinating how these folks can’t keep their mouths shut and just have to brag about what they are doing, no matter how damning the information they provide.
They are actually proud of all they are doing to destroy humanity and earth. Amazing. Even more amazing is that so many gullible fools still don’t catch on to what they are doing.

MarkW
Reply to  KcTaz
October 13, 2022 7:46 am

For some reason “Peace in our times” comes to mind.

Joao Martins
October 13, 2022 3:49 am

Only a criminal mind or a paranoid nazi would say that “war [wherever] may be seen as a blessing“.

ozspeaksup
October 13, 2022 4:15 am

always amuses me that the huge toxic and atmospheric(even if local) effects of weaponry used in the multiple usa usually involved “wars on something somebody” are always ignored, and ditto the fuel for vehicles planes etc as well

Tom Abbott
October 13, 2022 4:16 am

I saw a report that claims one of the Nordstream2 pipelines is still functional and Putin has offered to supply gas to Europe through this route.

What will the Europeans do? Especially if the weather and the grid situation gets bad. Will the Europeans cave and take the natural gas from Russia?

MarkW
Reply to  Tom Abbott
October 13, 2022 7:49 am

For some reason, a lot of people are acting like the entire pipeline is going to have to be replaced.

It’s a small hole in one segment. Haul it up, weld on a patch, put it back. Done. If the depths aren’t too great, you don’t have to haul it up. Send down divers to do the repairs.

Retired_Engineer_Jim
October 13, 2022 10:19 am

Where is the international uproar forcing this guy to resign?

Jacek Marchel
October 13, 2022 11:43 am

More war !, more war ! We need more greenies on the streets demanding more war.

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