So EVs which got flooded by Ian’s storm surge are catching fire … there are four instances and probably more… the law of unintended consequences! Salt water and EV batteries don’t go together!!
Electricity plus water wouldn’t necessarily mean boom, cars can go through floods and if the electrics get wet they stop working. However salt water is more conductive, which would short the batteries, but could the water electrolyse into hydrogen and oxygen?
The Lithium isn’t in metallic form. A common battery is the lithium iron phosphate type (LiFePO⁴ cathode) others, particularly for tools, are oxides of lithium-manganese, -cobalt, nickel, etc.
Patronis [, Florida’s top financial officer and fire marshal,]tweeted Thursday that after Hurricane Ian made landfall last week and flooded regions of his state, a bunch of electric vehicles (EVs) were caught in floods, batteries were waterlogged, and some spontaneously caught on fire.
The Toyota HiLux can! See the BBC Top Gear episode where they tried to destroy one. They even let the tide drown it and they got it started afterwards.
When I was in Charleston SC my Dodge Dart got stuck in the sand and the tide came in over half the car and the engine was nose down in the salt water, … managed to tow it out but had to steam clean the engine. It ran fine after that, but the car smelled like fish … couldn’t get rid of that smell, no matter what I did !!
According to the video the fire fighters put the battery fires out and they reignite. Color me confused; I had previously read on these pages that you couldn’t put Li battery fires out.
But if the chemical reaction generates it’s own heat? And the materials contain their own oxygen? And they are the fuel?
Fire extinguisherhave different classes for putting different types of fires.
One special class is for metal fires. (“D” if I remember correctly.) The others won’t do the job.
Water is used to extinguish fires because it can absorb so much heat. Submerging these batteries in water removes the heat part of the equation, so no fire if you have enough water.
A 1-1/2″ fire hose puts out around 100gpm. From my experience, that’s not enough (at least not for magnesium – hit magnesium with that stream and you get a jet of flame, I haven’t encountered lithium yet). A deck gun runs about 500gpm. I would assume they used a deck gun, which would probably keep it extinguished while flowing. But when the water stops, the heat comes back from the chemical reaction and it reignites.
I just stumbled over something interesting. As we all know the IPCC wants to claim high climate sensitivity. All the forcings from the different GHGs by now amount to 3.78W/m2, that is more than a doubling of CO2 alone. But even if you rule out natural climate variability, there was just about 1.3K warming (at best!) from preindustrial. And that is inconsistent with a high climate sensitivity.
That is where aerosols come into play. Aerosols are supposed to cool the planet and thus counter the effect of anthropogenic GHGs. The warming would be far worse, if there was not so much pollution. Ok
The funny part is this. Where does the pollution occur?
And where is the warming?
Essentially the warming is mainly in the NH, in fact it aligns well with the “pollution”. So reality is a total falsification of the IPCC narrative on pollution countering AGW. And in this way it destroys any suggestion of high climate sensitivity.
You said the maps align. They don’t. You asked where is the warming. It is in the Arctic.
And yes, it doesn’t have much to do with aerosols.
But surely there can be artefacts based on aerosols, when they are not well distributed and change with time. This might cause some correlation, even in the wrong direction.
It’s always interested me that the most warming is historically where there were either the least number of thermometers or the fewest people to read them….from 1714 to about 1950….
IPCC consensus documents have omitted the apparently massive impact of landcover disturbance on climates. Industrial particulate matter and human dessiccation of landscapes may show a similar spatial pattern at broad scale. The relation of aerosol and warming may be a mere coincidence, and driven by a different process. The landscape drained and dried will cause a different and less effective water cycle response to net radiation.
I think you showed the pollution is on land, and really where else could it be? And also the heating is mostly on land, with most of the land in the NH. With water warming at a far slower pace than the atmosphere, this makes sense.
Well, I have learned what they mean by “climate justice”.
“In Copenhagen in 2009, developed countries pledged to deliver $100bn a year to vulnerable states hit by severe climate-linked impacts.
That promise, originally to be met by 2020, has still not been kept and there is little clarity on when it might be. The manner in which available climate finance has been distributed has also been deeply flawed.”
“The manner in which available climate finance has been distributed has also been deeply flawed.” And who is doing those deeply-flawed distributions?
Tony Garcia
October 9, 2022 2:53 am
“In his principal experiment, Priestley placed a mouse within a sealed jar and observed it to eventually perish. When repeated with sprigs of mint within the jar, neither did the animal die ‘nor was it at all inconvenient to a mouse'” This is then claimed to have led him to the insight that plants take in Carbon Dioxide from the atmosphere as nourishment, I believe this experiment is still included in today’s textbooks. Given the scientific skepticism that is in vogue nowadays, I would ask: How can it be determined from this experiment that the mouse’s survival is due to the Carbon Dioxide exhaled by it, and not due to the Oxygen exhaled by the plants during photosynthesis?
It’s Obligatory Symbiosis, without the mouse the plant would die, and without the plant the mouse would die. Without enough mice the plants would struggle to survive and would, if they had the ability, have to find an alternative source of the gas of life for carbon based life forms ~ CO2. Without enough plants the mice would struggle to survive.
Without photosynthesis evolving, thus increasing atmospheric oxygen levels, life would probably still be anaerobic bacteria. Also, we breathe out 80% of the oxygen we breathe in. A lot of our cells are anaerobic and would die in anything more than 3% oxygen, the blood acts as a reservoir.
When Priestley repeated the experiment with Ivy League college students (forgive the anachronism), the students quickly harvested the mint, constructed an industrial-sized muddler from the mint stems and containers for the plants (how they did this is left to the imagination, since the Ivy League colleges discontinued engineering degrees due to lack of interest), celebrated their superior moral values with pitchers of mojitos and soon died from lack of oxygen and acute alcohol poisoning.
Ivermectin works to cure some Covid-19 vaccine injuries – we’ve done it.
The War on Ivermectin by Dr Pierre Kory · In his book, “The War on Ivermectin: The Medicine That Saved Millions and Could Have Ended the COVID Pandemic,” Dr. Pierre Kory details the history of ivermectin and the how and why behind Big Pharma’s suppression of this drug when it was found to work against COVID-19 · After spending his career as an internist and critical care physician, Kory has now turned his attention to long-haul COVID and post-jab injury syndromes · Daily ivermectin use is a mainstay of the treatment plans for long-haulers and those with COVID jab injuries, as the drug very effectively binds to the toxic spike protein that is causing most of the damage in both of these conditions · Methylene blue can be helpful for those struggling with crippling fatigue, as it boosts mitochondrial respiration and improves energy metabolism. It’s actually the parent molecule for hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine, off-patent drugs used to treat COVID-19 along with zinc · “The War on Ivermectin” reveals the disinformation playbook used by Big Pharma and its many allies to suppress highly useful and inexpensive medicines in order to protect and increase corporate profits
I have Ivermectin and hydroychloriquin in my medicine cabinet ready for use if I ever do come down with covid
I take zinc and quercetin as a preventative. Quercetin is supposed to act similarly to hydroxychloriquin. I haven’t contracted covid yet, but I don’t know if that’s the reason why or not.
Hydroxiquine and Benadryl are also supposed to be effective against covid. I have some of that, too. 🙂
This is insane – it’s obvious the jabs do not work on current Covid-19 variants – they probably never did work, even on the Alpha strain, and clearly cause much more harm (vaccine injuries and deaths) than good.
It used to be that corrupt governments and health authorities were slagging the unvaxxed as miscreants who were selfish and insensitive to the safety of the vaxxed.
Now some of the unvaxxed are retaliating, calling themselves “purebloods “and the unvaxxed “mudbloods”.
This is all divisive nonsense, encouraged by our corrupt governments, health authorities and big pharma.
Bottom Line:
Most of us have family and friends on both sides of the vaxxed/unvaxxed divide. It’s not a war or a contest – it’s a fraud and a disaster that will kill and injure many millions, including family and friends who we love.
I received news this week that a lifelong friend who was successfully fighting cancer has suffered a major acceleration of his illness and is not expected to survive. There is a photo of us together in a playpen, aged about 1 year – we do go back. He became an accomplished architect, and his major structures are monuments to his talent all over the world.
I have another close friend, a beautiful and talented young woman, who was suddenly stricken with an aggressive cancer and was not expected to survive – fortunately, she has responded well to surgery and chemo is doing well. Both were Covid-19 vaxxed and I attribute their cancers to those accursed toxic vaxxes. This acceleration of cancers is happening everywhere, even among younger people. ABOUT CURES.
I (and many others) have found Ivermectin is an effective cure for minor vaccine injuries such as chronic bleeding, etc. Start there.
More serious vaccine injuries, including the explosion of cancers, will require much more work.
Only the greatest of fools will take more toxic Covid-19 vaxxes – sadly – Darwin Awards.
Clyde – I discuss this subject with some of the brightest physicians and scientists on the planet and the world “anecdotal” is routinely used for such small samples – so “yes”, in response to your obtuse question. An observation about too many university types is they typically predict outcomes only in hindsight, when it is too late to do anything about them and when there is no risk of being wrong. Therefore, these profs provide little or no benefit to society and just take up space “predicting” the past with remarkable accuracy. Many climate scientists are still promoting the failed Catastrophic Manmade Global Warming Hypothesis, even though it never had any credible supporting evidence and was clearly disproved more than a decade ago. Many physicians are still pushing the toxic Covid-19 jabs even though the death and injury toll totals in the millions. While I strongly support The Scientific Method, it is now being used as a smokescreen for blatant bias, incompetence, deliberate obfuscation, delay and deceit.
Everyone with a modicum of competence recognizes both the Climate and Covid scares as false political scams used by wolves to stampede the sheep.
Clyde – NOT anecdotal – Cancer rates tripled – Uncontrollable turbo-charged cancers the medical establishment had never seen before.
HOW CANCER DEATHS FROM THE COVID JABS ARE BEING HIDDEN Analysis by Dr. Joseph MercolaOctober 14, 2022 STORY AT-A-GLANCE · Analysis of U.S. Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR) data suggests the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has been filtering and redesignating cancer deaths as COVID deaths since April 2021 to eliminate the cancer signal · The signal is being hidden by swapping the underlying cause of death with main cause of death · Uncontrollable turbo-charged cancers the medical establishment had never seen before only started to occur after the rollout of the COVID jabs · Before it was manipulated to eliminate the safety signal, data from the Defense Medical Epidemiology Database (DMED) showed cancer rates among military personnel and their families tripled after the rollout of the shots · After the rollout of the COVID jabs in 2021, cancer patients have gotten younger, with the largest increase occurring among 30- to 50-year-olds, tumor sizes are dramatically larger, multiple tumors in multiple organs are becoming more common, and recurrence and metastasis are increasing
RE “immunity was weakened by social distancing and masks”:
Correct, but misleading – it is more important that those who have had three Covid-19 shots have lost about 80% of their natural immunity. The CDC will not admit that reality, because they are some of the rat-bastards who pushed injecting everybody with the toxic Covid-19 “vaccines”. I recommend boosting natural immunity with quercetin, Vitamin D and a healthy diet and lifestyle. My daughter and I are Covid-19 unvaxxed and to our knowledge we never caught the illness – almost everyone else I know is vaxxed and caught Covid-19, some more than once. I warned them but they believed the uber-corrupt medical establishment.
More and more friends are having vaccine-regret. Some of them had serious bleeding and fatigue after the vaxxes, which we quickly cured with a few weeks of low-dose Ivermectin. Small sample but it seemed to work well, with no side-effects.
CDC REPORT: RECORD NUMBER OF CHILDREN HOSPITALIZED AFTER THEIR IMMUNITY WAS WEAKENED BY SOCIAL DISTANCING AND MASKS By Alicia Powe Published October 8, 2022 at 5:20pm A record number of children and young people have developed weakened immune systems and are being hospitalized to treat the common cold and respiratory illnesses, according to a new report published by the Center For Disease Control and Prevention. The CDC collected samples from random pediatric hospitals across the United States, including Washington, Texas, New York and Ohio, to measure the prevalence of viruses. The government agency found common cold viruses hit their highest level ever among children and young people under the age of 18 in August 2021, according to the CDC’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report published on Oct. 7. Nearly 700 children were hospitalized with respiratory viruses across seven wards that were examined by the CDC in August. Fifty-five percent of the children tested positive for respiratory syncytial virus, the highest levels ever recorded in summer. In winter months, approximately 30 percent of patients typically contract RSV. In December 2021, 60 percent of children on wards with respiratory illness were infected with RSV, an all-time record high. Separate data published by the CDC also shows an unprecedented hospitalization rate among toddlers with respiratory illnesses, the Daily Mail reports. Data gathered by the CDC in September shows 4.7 percent of children under four years old suffering from breathing difficulties, a record high. Lockdowns hindered children’s ability to develop immunity to common illnesses, contends Dr. Scott Roberrts, a medical director at Yale University. “There are two implications to this,” Roberts told Daily Mail. “First, the gap gives time for the viruses to mutate even further to cause more severe disease.” “Second, whatever immunity was built up to those viruses, it will have waned making the immune response now much less potent,” he continued. In addition to increasing depleting immunity among children, authoritarian Covid measures have also adversely impacted children’s cognitive development Speech therapists have seen an alarming spike in the number of babies and toddlers patients who are speech delayed. Mask-wearing has caused a 364% increase in patient referrals of babies and toddlers, warns speech therapist Jaclyn Theek. While Covid poses virtually no risk to the health of children in normal circumstances, the Biden administration continues to insist children keep wearing masks in school. The administration continues to require a mask mandate for toddlers as young as 2 years old within the federal Head Start program.
“Here’s what the data they got from the CDC shows :33.1% of the 10.1M people who participated in the v-safe monitoring program experienced significant adverse health impacts. 7.7% of the 10.1M users who voluntarily participated in the US government v-safe program had to seek medical care after the COVID vaccine. That is unprecedented. This is why the CDC has been hiding this data from the American public.”
EXTRACT – From Bank Australia “Responsible” Banking Policy —
What we don’t fund — Negative screens
The fossil fuel industry
The negative impacts of the extraction and use of
non-renewable fossil fuels on the environment and
climate are well documented. We accept the science
of climate change and, as part of our commitment to
protecting people and the planet and transitioning a
decarbonised world, we don’t lend to coal, gas or oil
extraction or fossil fuel electricity generation.
• Coal
We don’t lend to organisations that conduct
exploration for and extraction of coal reserves,
or generate power using coal. We also exclude
companies using technologies to reduce
emissions from coal-fired power generation.
• Oil and gas
We don’t lend to organisations conducting
exploration, mining and/or extraction of oil or
gas from conventional methods or fracking.
• Fossil fuel-related industries
For any new loans, we screen to ensure borrowers
are not in fossil fuel-related industries, like fossil
fuel retailing or transport, or any other major
suppliers to the fossil fuel industry. If a borrower
provides any supply to the fossil fuel industry, we
make sure it’s not more than 50% of their revenue
On the positive(?) side the two Tescos near me in NE Wales very rarely have an EV charging in them so they have wasted a lot of money installing the chargers
Are any of the banks or atms or any other building they own , powered by coal or natural gas? Are any projects they do fund built by machines using diesel fuel? Until it is all powered by solar or wind, sue them for unequal standards and discrimination.
We are getting noticed. Dominion has even attacked us in the press.
Here is Dominion Energy’s hit on our “Save the whales from OSW” campaign:
“Dominion Energy spokesperson Jeremy Slayton said in a statement, “These groups lack credibility on environmental issues. They are climate change deniers and oppose offshore wind for political purposes. Dominion Energy is a leader in protecting the environment. We are investing in numerous zero carbon and low carbon technologies for our customers’ benefit.”
Slayton listed protections including NOAA restrictions on pile driving foundation in the water during right whale migration through Virginia waters, bubble curtains to mitigate sound waves from pile driving, and certified Protected Species Observers. The utility also touts collaboration with Duke University and the Regional Wildlife Science Collaborative as it considers mitigation measures.
He said, “For our Coastal Virginia Offshore Wind project, we have taken concrete steps to protect the right whales and their migration path. No underwater construction will occur during the migration season, and the turbines will be spaced about a mile apart to avoid disturbing their path.””
Here is my reply:
Re 1 mile spacing. The study I reference in “How to kill whales with offshore wind” says that the excessive noise from a smaller 10MW turbine carries over a mile. Thus the noise from each of Dominion’s 15 MW turbines will overlap with multiple others. This will create a veritable wall of noise the whales are almost certain to avoid, pushing them into heavy traffic.
Dominion’s primary mitigation strategy seems to be watching out for the whales. But the number of sightings is very small compared to the population that migrates thru twice a year so that strategy is ineffective.
As for not pile driving during migration, BOEM’s own research shows that whales can be present year round. There is no narrow migration season.
As for slandering CFACT et al, as skeptics of OSW they are able to take the hard look necessary to protect the whales. OSW is an environmentalist cause and to date no environmentalist whale protection group has even publicly spoken about the OSW issue. These skeptics are the whales best hope.
On a lighter note, an American tourist was visiting Cardiff and went into a pub. He sat at a table near 3 hefty women. After a while he said to them “I just love the way you ladies in England speak.”
The women shouted back “It’s Wales you idiot, Wales!”
The American apologized and said,” I’m sorry, I just love the way you whales in England speak.”
He was released from the hospital several weeks later.
It seems odd that they are only preparing an Environmental Assessment (EA) instead of a full Environmental Impact Statement (EIS). This is the sort of major project for which the Federal government is required to produce a full EIS. Something is missing here.
News to me. Definately something to sue on if true. This OSW approval is certainly a major rule. Ducking NEPA! Many thanks.
Speaking of which NOAA has a big reg proposal out to cut boat speeds to protect the right whales. They say the whales are severely threatened by human activity. No mention of OSW but given the threat it should be banned on the East Coast.
Thanks for the link, Dorn. It reads, “Hmmm… can’t reach this page”
Isn’t that odd. When it was active, whatever was there couldn’t reach out to me. Now it can’t be reached.
Hey, “ENSO Guy,” glad to see you comment (both the content and that it proves you were doing okay as of 5:12AM, today 🙂 ). We miss your excellent articles. How about doing a reprise series from “Who Turned Up the Heat” and “Climate Models Fail?”
Hope your family’s beach area property is still intact.
I posted a rebuttal to the nonsense that weather brought this plane down. I linked to actual aviation accident data that 3 prior examples in this type, one as recent as May 2022 showed structural failing with the exact same characteristic crash. the failure was known to the NTSB and they made NO recommendations.
Now to vindicate my post, and the source from which I referred, the FAA has issued an Emergency Airworthiness Directive on the type as follows:
And I quote: “This Emergency AD was prompted by multiple recent reports of cracks in the left-hand elevator auxiliary spar. The FAA’s analysis of these reports indicates that immediate AD action is warranted. The FAA is issuing this AD to detect and address cracks, corrosion, and previous repairs to the left-hand elevator auxiliary spar. The unsafe condition, if not addressed, could result in elevator flutter leading to elevator failure, with consequent loss of control of the airplane.”
So as Dan Gryder pointed out the behavior of this plane according to the ADS-B transponder data is the elevator failed, caused a severe pitch up, which stalled the wings and then it nose dived into the water.
Nothing to do with wind shear, it was a structural failure the NTSB knew about but did not make any safety recommendations from the 3 previous incidents/accidents with the same problem.
Interesting, thanks for that. It wasn’t a Beaver (which is DHC-2) it was an Otter with the turbine conversion.
If I read the history of de Havilland Canada right, the last single-engined Otter was built in 1967, so you’re looking at an aircraft that was a minimum of 55, and possibly as much as 70 years old. So maintenance (or lack thereof) could be an important issue.
Could using float planes on salt water all the time accelerate corrosion? Silly question really. Of course it would. All the Otters I’ve ever seen were used on lakes, which perhaps explains why they age so well.
I would like take exception with the various graphs that show the atmospheric CO2 level rising like the take-off path of an airplane. These graphs have a vertical axis that consists of PPM values apparently considered as whole numbers. In fact, they are numerators of a fraction. The result of this practice gives a magnification to the slope of CO2 level growth that is misleading. According to Muana Loa measurement the atmospheric CO2 level in 1960 was 315 PPM. Expressed as a percentage this would be .000315 or three hundreths of one percent rounded to the nearest hundreth. The Muana Loa measurement of atmospheric CO2 level in 2020 was 420PPM. Expressed as a percentage this was .000420 or four hundreths of one percent rounded to the nearest hundreth. Thus, the growth in atmospheric CO2 level was only one hundreth of one percent from 1960 until 2020. A realistic graph of this increase would appear as an almost flat line hardly distinguishable with the bottom border of a graph using percentages from 0 to 100 percent as its vertical axis.
CO2 is estimated at up +48% since 1850
The global average temperature is estimated to be up
by about +1 degree C. in the 172 years since 1850
It would not be difficult to show both those changes on an honest chart.
The CO2 range would start at zero ppm,and go to 500ppm
The average temperature range would be based on the absolute temperature, and the chart could cover the normal temperature range of an ordinary home thermometer — NOT scary looking temperature anomalies on a chart with a tiny range of 1.5 degrees C.
If CO2 only increased 1/100th of percent then there would only be 2457.0 GtCO2 (315.02 ppm) * 1.0001 = 2457.2 GtCO2 (315.02 ppm). Do you really think the CO2 concentration only increased by 0.02 ppm?
The important CO2 number is the number of molecules in a cubic meter and how that value changes. That number allows one to calculate the mean free path of a photon through the CO2 gas which can be used in the calculation of the magnitude of the GHE. Using your number the mean free path has changed by 33%, a modest change.
PPM is used for convenience only. It would be awkward dealing with numbers raised to the twentieth power.
At 420PPM the atmospheric CO2 level is 4/100ths of one percent. That level of CO2 in a CO2 fire extinguisher would make the extinguisher ineffective. How can it be reasonably claimed that that percent of CO2 in the atmosphere is changing the Earth’s air temperature and climate?
At 5 mg the fentanyl level is 1/1,000,000ths of one percent in a 150 lb person. How can it be reasonably claimed that the percent of fentanyl in dead person changed the person’s biological rhythm?
Yours is not a realistic comparison. There is too much difference in the role of CO2 in the atmosphere and the role of fentanyl in a human body to make a comparison.
It is absolutely realistic because it is literally happening to people as we speak. 1/1,000,000th of one percent is more than enough to so drastically alter a person’s biological rhythm that they often die. The point is that seemingly infinitesimal concentrations of substances can have even catastrophic effects.
There is no logical connection between a poison’s effect upon a single human and the effect of the current level of atmospheric CO2 on the Earth’s temperature and climate.
IS THE U.S. BLOOD SUPPLY TAINTED? 10/06/22 Despite reports that COVID-19 vaccines cause blood abnormalities, the American Red Cross and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration continue to brush off concerns that the massive vaccine campaign may have contaminated the country’s blood supply. By Children’s Health Defense Team After the U.S. Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA’s) Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) of COVID-19 vaccines, blood clots were some of the earliest adverse events observed, and abnormal coagulation continues to be one of the most frequent and serious problems reported. As of mid-September, the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) — notorious for capturing only a minuscule proportion of adverse events — had received notification of more than 43,000 blood clotting disorders, including acute-onset problems in young children. Clotting disorders make the blood clot “too easily,” generating clots that can travel through the bloodstream and increase the risk of heart attacks and strokes, among other potential complications. Funeral directors and embalmers in the U.S. and U.K. have gone public with shocking descriptions of highly unusual blood clots in up to 85% of the bodies coming under their care — a “massive increase” compared to pre-COVID-19 vaccine times when ordinary-looking clots might be found in 5% to 10% of the deceased. “In all my years of embalming, we would run across clots from time to time,” said Richard Hirschman, an experienced funeral director in Alabama, “but since May last year [2021], something about the blood has changed. It’s not normal. It’s drastic.”
In addition, after Covid, a new directive came out from AMA saying those with heart conditions should no longer take low dose aspirin due to supposed risk of bleeding. Since Covid produces clotting issues, the timing of this directive is quite concerning.
Something about that AMA directive doesn’t make sense. If clotting is a problem in the covid era, why would any sane person want to stop taking Aspirin, which is an anti-coagulant?
Or is it just another part of an anti-aspirin campaign that’s been shaping up for a decade or two? The only over-the-counter pain reliever that the medical establishment seems to like now (forget ibuprofen and naproxen, they apparently “can cause bleeding” too) is acetaminophen/paracetamol, despite the fact that in high doses it can cause liver damage. In very high doses, it can cause irreversible, fatal liver damage.
Lately, I’ve been wondering if the fact that I survived long covid from the original strain in 2020, and my poor wife did not, could be due to my taking an anti-coagulant (apixaban) twice a day since I had a heart attack 12 years ago. Plus I still take full strength (325 mg) aspirin every day (to the horror of my family doctor).
Ouch! But CA politicians and regulators have no shame.
John Robertson
October 9, 2022 10:57 am
“The State of Florida- New Mrna COVID-19 Vaccine Guidance”
This came out Friday.
We should run a pool to bet on how long it takes so called Newz Media to ignore it.
How many countries are now “climate-deniers”? I count UK, Hungary, Italy. The US was a denier under Trump and will hopefully be again after 2024. Ditto Canada.
Fran
October 9, 2022 11:25 am
There is a great deal of leftist guff about income inequality in the US. I got a bit suspicious when I read somewhere that 80% of those below the poverty line had air conditioners. This book talk analyzes various estimates of income, taxes paid and transfers. They come up with a 4-fold difference between the middle of the top quintile and the bottom. Also there are interesting stats on labour participation.
Most under the poverty line probably have color TVs, many have a car, and most probably have some sort of smartphone. To paraphrase Einstein, “It is all relative.”
Doug B
October 9, 2022 1:41 pm
For those WUWT readers such as myself who are not petroleum experts I would enjoy a simple (if possible) discussion on what happens to all of the billions of barrels of gasoline and diesel if all internal combustion engines were not used. I have read that gasoline in particular was once considered a by-product of little use until ICE power was developed.
Suspend the arguments about the electric grids being unable to cope and insufficient raw rare earth and minerals are readily available.
My magic scenario is that the green utopia has been accomplished. But we still need petroleum for many other products in modern life. What is to be done? Back to flaring? Defeats the purpose of doing away with ICE power it appears. What other useful purpose is there?
If possible keep the discussion on an 8th grade level so that elected officials can understand it.
Basically, is there a potential environmental catastrophe possible from NOT using gasoline and diesel? The anti nuclear power people always want to throw out the problem of spent rods. Are the greens creating a similar problem?
Ridicule if you must but this is an honest question.
The scary prospect is not so much the gasoline that won’t be burned, but the oil and gas that won’t be extracted.
No oil and gas; no petrochemicals. No gas; no nitrogen fertilizer. No nitrogen fertilizer; a quarter of the food production.
It will be very grim.
Ric Howard
October 9, 2022 2:57 pm
Is there a good way to find all the comments on a given WUWT article that have been made since a given time? Basically I’m looking for a way to find all the replies to comments made since the last time I read the article without having to page through the entire chain manually looking at each timestamp. Something like a “sort comments by timestamp” option. I use Safari and its webpage search function can sometimes help with this depending on the date/time last read and the current date/time but it does not support regular expression searching so there are often cases when it is inadequate.
At the beginning of the comments section you can direct the order of comments to start with the Newest comment. The default setting is to start with the Oldest comment. That might help.
When I’m trying to get caught up, I just do a global search for the current date, e.g. “October 10”.
Richard Page
October 10, 2022 2:41 am
Do you remember the story WUWT ran a while ago about Silphium going extinct due to climate change? A research team thinks they may have found surviving plants in Turkey which should upset the naysayers.
niceguy
October 22, 2022 4:13 pm
French “journal de référence” promotes a book who dispels the usual false ideas and received wisdom regarding rats.
Paris rats are in fact “des surmulots” (super wood mouse?). They aren’t that bad.
So EVs which got flooded by Ian’s storm surge are catching fire … there are four instances and probably more… the law of unintended consequences! Salt water and EV batteries don’t go together!!
What is/are the reaction(s) involved?
Electricity+water=BOOM!
Electricity plus water wouldn’t necessarily mean boom, cars can go through floods and if the electrics get wet they stop working. However salt water is more conductive, which would short the batteries, but could the water electrolyse into hydrogen and oxygen?
Just when you thought it was safe not to use the /sarc tag
Add more salt!
Lithium + water -> Lithium hydroxide + H2 + heat.
Then 2H2 + O2 -> 2 H2O + heat
The Lithium isn’t in metallic form. A common battery is the lithium iron phosphate type (LiFePO⁴ cathode) others, particularly for tools, are oxides of lithium-manganese, -cobalt, nickel, etc.
My mistake, it seems. It creates fluorides, even worse.
Here’s a good explanation of the hazards of lithium ion batteries.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5577247/
only one
“a bunch”
Patronis [, Florida’s top financial officer and fire marshal,] tweeted Thursday that after Hurricane Ian made landfall last week and flooded regions of his state, a bunch of electric vehicles (EVs) were caught in floods, batteries were waterlogged, and some spontaneously caught on fire.
(Source: https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/10/09/new-hurricane-ian-challenge-spontaneously-combusting-electric-vehicles/ )
it is funny really, if you think about. humans invented something that actually catches fire when in contact with water.
Next up, cars built of pure lithium metal.
Not that ICE vehicles can survive being underwater
But at least they don’t catch fire!
The Toyota HiLux can! See the BBC Top Gear episode where they tried to destroy one. They even let the tide drown it and they got it started afterwards.
When I was in Charleston SC my Dodge Dart got stuck in the sand and the tide came in over half the car and the engine was nose down in the salt water, … managed to tow it out but had to steam clean the engine. It ran fine after that, but the car smelled like fish … couldn’t get rid of that smell, no matter what I did !!
According to the video the fire fighters put the battery fires out and they reignite. Color me confused; I had previously read on these pages that you couldn’t put Li battery fires out.
Firefighters thought they had it out.
What was that Boy Scout thing for putting out a campfire?
Drown the fire. Stir the ashes. Drown it again.
Hard to stir a battery.
Especially considering the manner in which we Boy Scouts used to drown the fire.
PM: Fire tetrahedron Heat + Oxygen + Fuel + Chemical Reaction = fire. Take away any one, no fire. Water takes away a LOT of heat.
But if the chemical reaction generates it’s own heat? And the materials contain their own oxygen? And they are the fuel?
Fire extinguisher have different classes for putting different types of fires.
One special class is for metal fires. (“D” if I remember correctly.) The others won’t do the job.
Water is used to extinguish fires because it can absorb so much heat. Submerging these batteries in water removes the heat part of the equation, so no fire if you have enough water.
A 1-1/2″ fire hose puts out around 100gpm. From my experience, that’s not enough (at least not for magnesium – hit magnesium with that stream and you get a jet of flame, I haven’t encountered lithium yet). A deck gun runs about 500gpm. I would assume they used a deck gun, which would probably keep it extinguished while flowing. But when the water stops, the heat comes back from the chemical reaction and it reignites.
I just stumbled over something interesting. As we all know the IPCC wants to claim high climate sensitivity. All the forcings from the different GHGs by now amount to 3.78W/m2, that is more than a doubling of CO2 alone. But even if you rule out natural climate variability, there was just about 1.3K warming (at best!) from preindustrial. And that is inconsistent with a high climate sensitivity.
That is where aerosols come into play. Aerosols are supposed to cool the planet and thus counter the effect of anthropogenic GHGs. The warming would be far worse, if there was not so much pollution. Ok
The funny part is this. Where does the pollution occur?
And where is the warming?
Essentially the warming is mainly in the NH, in fact it aligns well with the “pollution”. So reality is a total falsification of the IPCC narrative on pollution countering AGW. And in this way it destroys any suggestion of high climate sensitivity.
In 2015 they found, aerosols cool less than thought:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/01/210128155643.htm
The reverse conclusion is a less of warming by CO2.
It is not about “less than thought”, but about absolutely not!
Could you present a numeric argument instead of ‘aligns well’?
It doesn’t align well. The most dramatic warming is Arctic warming, where ice cover and missing ice cover make a 20 C difference in the winter.
That’s called heat transport and dissipation.
You do not understand. The polar amplification is a seperate thing. We could discuss it, but there is no point to it here.
Exactly what I ‘do not understand’? 🙂
You said the maps align. They don’t. You asked where is the warming. It is in the Arctic.
And yes, it doesn’t have much to do with aerosols.
But surely there can be artefacts based on aerosols, when they are not well distributed and change with time. This might cause some correlation, even in the wrong direction.
Arctic Amplification? iIt’s very well known here (and why it must be so!).
I doubt it..
It’s always interested me that the most warming is historically where there were either the least number of thermometers or the fewest people to read them….from 1714 to about 1950….
IPCC consensus documents have omitted the apparently massive impact of landcover disturbance on climates. Industrial particulate matter and human dessiccation of landscapes may show a similar spatial pattern at broad scale. The relation of aerosol and warming may be a mere coincidence, and driven by a different process. The landscape drained and dried will cause a different and less effective water cycle response to net radiation.
I think you showed the pollution is on land, and really where else could it be? And also the heating is mostly on land, with most of the land in the NH. With water warming at a far slower pace than the atmosphere, this makes sense.
This is not land pollution, but air pollution. And it is not about where it is emitted, but about concentration in the air.
If this is your illustration of “aligning quite well”, you need help.
Then let me help you. If you understand what noise is, if you know about polar amplification, then this a very good fit.
Taking the mickey
https://youtu.be/HK0yl0_PdDY
https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2022/10/russian-propaganda-video-taking-the-piss-out-of-america.html
Nice, thanks.
Well, I have learned what they mean by “climate justice”.
“In Copenhagen in 2009, developed countries pledged to deliver $100bn a year to vulnerable states hit by severe climate-linked impacts.
That promise, originally to be met by 2020, has still not been kept and there is little clarity on when it might be. The manner in which available climate finance has been distributed has also been deeply flawed.”
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/oct/05/the-guardian-view-on-cop27-climate-justice-must-take-centre-stage
Can I have some of your money? What do you mean you haven’t any?
‘hit by severe climate-linked impacts.’
Florida? They have it on record!
The Guardian is waiting for its share. A mere £10M per year would make flights to Tonga a lot easier.
The US has donated about 65 billion to the Ukraine, does that count?
“The manner in which available climate finance has been distributed has also been deeply flawed.” And who is doing those deeply-flawed distributions?
“In his principal experiment, Priestley placed a mouse within a sealed jar and observed it to eventually perish. When repeated with sprigs of mint within the jar, neither did the animal die ‘nor was it at all inconvenient to a mouse'” This is then claimed to have led him to the insight that plants take in Carbon Dioxide from the atmosphere as nourishment, I believe this experiment is still included in today’s textbooks. Given the scientific skepticism that is in vogue nowadays, I would ask: How can it be determined from this experiment that the mouse’s survival is due to the Carbon Dioxide exhaled by it, and not due to the Oxygen exhaled by the plants during photosynthesis?
It’s Obligatory Symbiosis, without the mouse the plant would die, and without the plant the mouse would die. Without enough mice the plants would struggle to survive and would, if they had the ability, have to find an alternative source of the gas of life for carbon based life forms ~ CO2. Without enough plants the mice would struggle to survive.
Without photosynthesis evolving, thus increasing atmospheric oxygen levels, life would probably still be anaerobic bacteria. Also, we breathe out 80% of the oxygen we breathe in. A lot of our cells are anaerobic and would die in anything more than 3% oxygen, the blood acts as a reservoir.
It can’t.
Many old proofs presented in their story form are woefully inadequate.
Many original experiments were interpreted misunderstanding the issue in the first place.
The sky is black -> the universe is not eternal is wrong (inadequate) inference.
The retina has picture left-to-right looking from back -> brain mirrors the image is not EVEN wrong.
When Priestley repeated the experiment with Ivy League college students (forgive the anachronism), the students quickly harvested the mint, constructed an industrial-sized muddler from the mint stems and containers for the plants (how they did this is left to the imagination, since the Ivy League colleges discontinued engineering degrees due to lack of interest), celebrated their superior moral values with pitchers of mojitos and soon died from lack of oxygen and acute alcohol poisoning.
We could only hope.
Ivermectin works to cure some Covid-19 vaccine injuries – we’ve done it.
The War on Ivermectin by Dr Pierre Kory
· In his book, “The War on Ivermectin: The Medicine That Saved Millions and Could Have Ended the COVID Pandemic,” Dr. Pierre Kory details the history of ivermectin and the how and why behind Big Pharma’s suppression of this drug when it was found to work against COVID-19
· After spending his career as an internist and critical care physician, Kory has now turned his attention to long-haul COVID and post-jab injury syndromes
· Daily ivermectin use is a mainstay of the treatment plans for long-haulers and those with COVID jab injuries, as the drug very effectively binds to the toxic spike protein that is causing most of the damage in both of these conditions
· Methylene blue can be helpful for those struggling with crippling fatigue, as it boosts mitochondrial respiration and improves energy metabolism. It’s actually the parent molecule for hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine, off-patent drugs used to treat COVID-19 along with zinc
· “The War on Ivermectin” reveals the disinformation playbook used by Big Pharma and its many allies to suppress highly useful and inexpensive medicines in order to protect and increase corporate profits
Thanks for that tip. I’ll have to get a copy.
I have Ivermectin and hydroychloriquin in my medicine cabinet ready for use if I ever do come down with covid
I take zinc and quercetin as a preventative. Quercetin is supposed to act similarly to hydroxychloriquin. I haven’t contracted covid yet, but I don’t know if that’s the reason why or not.
Hydroxiquine and Benadryl are also supposed to be effective against covid. I have some of that, too. 🙂
The link to that article on the Dr. Joseph Mercola website will be taken down in two days. I don’t know why he does that.
I placed a copy of the Mercola article in an easy to read large font on one of my blogs, that will be permanent:
Election Circus: The War on Ivermectin, by Dr. Joseph Mercola
German report reveals 1 in 25 insured individuals treated for Covid shot reactions – the vaccine reaction
Take these numbers with the usual “grain of salt”. Nevertheless:
Not long ago this number was 1 in ~1000 – if people keep taking these toxic jabs it will be 1 in 1.
This is insane – it’s obvious the jabs do not work on current Covid-19 variants – they probably never did work, even on the Alpha strain, and clearly cause much more harm (vaccine injuries and deaths) than good.
Covid-19 lockdowns and vaccines were always a corrupt money game. Told you so 30 months ago.
It used to be that corrupt governments and health authorities were slagging the unvaxxed as miscreants who were selfish and insensitive to the safety of the vaxxed.
Now some of the unvaxxed are retaliating, calling themselves “purebloods “and the unvaxxed “mudbloods”.
This is all divisive nonsense, encouraged by our corrupt governments, health authorities and big pharma.
Bottom Line:
Most of us have family and friends on both sides of the vaxxed/unvaxxed divide. It’s not a war or a contest – it’s a fraud and a disaster that will kill and injure many millions, including family and friends who we love.
I received news this week that a lifelong friend who was successfully fighting cancer has suffered a major acceleration of his illness and is not expected to survive. There is a photo of us together in a playpen, aged about 1 year – we do go back. He became an accomplished architect, and his major structures are monuments to his talent all over the world.
I have another close friend, a beautiful and talented young woman, who was suddenly stricken with an aggressive cancer and was not expected to survive – fortunately, she has responded well to surgery and chemo is doing well. Both were Covid-19 vaxxed and I attribute their cancers to those accursed toxic vaxxes. This acceleration of cancers is happening everywhere, even among younger people.
ABOUT CURES.
I (and many others) have found Ivermectin is an effective cure for minor vaccine injuries such as chronic bleeding, etc. Start there.
More serious vaccine injuries, including the explosion of cancers, will require much more work.
Only the greatest of fools will take more toxic Covid-19 vaxxes – sadly – Darwin Awards.
Can you say “anecdotal?”
Clyde – I discuss this subject with some of the brightest physicians and scientists on the planet and the world “anecdotal” is routinely used for such small samples – so “yes”, in response to your obtuse question.
An observation about too many university types is they typically predict outcomes only in hindsight, when it is too late to do anything about them and when there is no risk of being wrong. Therefore, these profs provide little or no benefit to society and just take up space “predicting” the past with remarkable accuracy.
Many climate scientists are still promoting the failed Catastrophic Manmade Global Warming Hypothesis, even though it never had any credible supporting evidence and was clearly disproved more than a decade ago.
Many physicians are still pushing the toxic Covid-19 jabs even though the death and injury toll totals in the millions.
While I strongly support The Scientific Method, it is now being used as a smokescreen for blatant bias, incompetence, deliberate obfuscation, delay and deceit.
Everyone with a modicum of competence recognizes both the Climate and Covid scares as false political scams used by wolves to stampede the sheep.
Clyde – NOT anecdotal – Cancer rates tripled – Uncontrollable turbo-charged cancers the medical establishment had never seen before.
HOW CANCER DEATHS FROM THE COVID JABS ARE BEING HIDDEN
Analysis by Dr. Joseph Mercola October 14, 2022
STORY AT-A-GLANCE
· Analysis of U.S. Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR) data suggests the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has been filtering and redesignating cancer deaths as COVID deaths since April 2021 to eliminate the cancer signal
· The signal is being hidden by swapping the underlying cause of death with main cause of death
· Uncontrollable turbo-charged cancers the medical establishment had never seen before only started to occur after the rollout of the COVID jabs
· Before it was manipulated to eliminate the safety signal, data from the Defense Medical Epidemiology Database (DMED) showed cancer rates among military personnel and their families tripled after the rollout of the shots
· After the rollout of the COVID jabs in 2021, cancer patients have gotten younger, with the largest increase occurring among 30- to 50-year-olds, tumor sizes are dramatically larger, multiple tumors in multiple organs are becoming more common, and recurrence and metastasis are increasing
RE “immunity was weakened by social distancing and masks”:
Correct, but misleading – it is more important that those who have had three Covid-19 shots have lost about 80% of their natural immunity. The CDC will not admit that reality, because they are some of the rat-bastards who pushed injecting everybody with the toxic Covid-19 “vaccines”. I recommend boosting natural immunity with quercetin, Vitamin D and a healthy diet and lifestyle. My daughter and I are Covid-19 unvaxxed and to our knowledge we never caught the illness – almost everyone else I know is vaxxed and caught Covid-19, some more than once. I warned them but they believed the uber-corrupt medical establishment.
More and more friends are having vaccine-regret. Some of them had serious bleeding and fatigue after the vaxxes, which we quickly cured with a few weeks of low-dose Ivermectin. Small sample but it seemed to work well, with no side-effects.
CDC REPORT: RECORD NUMBER OF CHILDREN HOSPITALIZED AFTER THEIR IMMUNITY WAS WEAKENED BY SOCIAL DISTANCING AND MASKS
By Alicia Powe
Published October 8, 2022 at 5:20pm
A record number of children and young people have developed weakened immune systems and are being hospitalized to treat the common cold and respiratory illnesses, according to a new report published by the Center For Disease Control and Prevention.
The CDC collected samples from random pediatric hospitals across the United States, including Washington, Texas, New York and Ohio, to measure the prevalence of viruses.
The government agency found common cold viruses hit their highest level ever among children and young people under the age of 18 in August 2021, according to the CDC’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report published on Oct. 7.
Nearly 700 children were hospitalized with respiratory viruses across seven wards that were examined by the CDC in August.
Fifty-five percent of the children tested positive for respiratory syncytial virus, the highest levels ever recorded in summer. In winter months, approximately 30 percent of patients typically contract RSV.
In December 2021, 60 percent of children on wards with respiratory illness were infected with RSV, an all-time record high.
Separate data published by the CDC also shows an unprecedented hospitalization rate among toddlers with respiratory illnesses, the Daily Mail reports.
Data gathered by the CDC in September shows 4.7 percent of children under four years old suffering from breathing difficulties, a record high.
Lockdowns hindered children’s ability to develop immunity to common illnesses, contends Dr. Scott Roberrts, a medical director at Yale University.
“There are two implications to this,” Roberts told Daily Mail. “First, the gap gives time for the viruses to mutate even further to cause more severe disease.”
“Second, whatever immunity was built up to those viruses, it will have waned making the immune response now much less potent,” he continued.
In addition to increasing depleting immunity among children, authoritarian Covid measures have also adversely impacted children’s cognitive development
Speech therapists have seen an alarming spike in the number of babies and toddlers patients who are speech delayed.
Mask-wearing has caused a 364% increase in patient referrals of babies and toddlers, warns speech therapist Jaclyn Theek.
While Covid poses virtually no risk to the health of children in normal circumstances, the Biden administration continues to insist children keep wearing masks in school. The administration continues to require a mask mandate for toddlers as young as 2 years old within the federal Head Start program.
Related numbers from the US v-safe database:
“Here’s what the data they got from the CDC shows :33.1% of the 10.1M people who participated in the v-safe monitoring program experienced significant adverse health impacts. 7.7% of the 10.1M users who voluntarily participated in the US government v-safe program had to seek medical care after the COVID vaccine. That is unprecedented. This is why the CDC has been hiding this data from the American public.”
Source:
Election Circus: Why did the CDC hide the v-safe data from the American people for almost 2 years?
Thank you Richard.
I had a relationship with Bank Australia — It has been terminated effective immediately…
The bank Australia needs | Bank Australia
EXTRACT – From Bank Australia “Responsible” Banking Policy —
What we don’t fund — Negative screens
The fossil fuel industry
The negative impacts of the extraction and use of
non-renewable fossil fuels on the environment and
climate are well documented. We accept the science
of climate change and, as part of our commitment to
protecting people and the planet and transitioning a
decarbonised world, we don’t lend to coal, gas or oil
extraction or fossil fuel electricity generation.
• Coal
We don’t lend to organisations that conduct
exploration for and extraction of coal reserves,
or generate power using coal. We also exclude
companies using technologies to reduce
emissions from coal-fired power generation.
• Oil and gas
We don’t lend to organisations conducting
exploration, mining and/or extraction of oil or
gas from conventional methods or fracking.
• Fossil fuel-related industries
For any new loans, we screen to ensure borrowers
are not in fossil fuel-related industries, like fossil
fuel retailing or transport, or any other major
suppliers to the fossil fuel industry. If a borrower
provides any supply to the fossil fuel industry, we
make sure it’s not more than 50% of their revenue
I followed your LINK, that is really depressing.
Many companies are putting your money where their mouth is
In the UK, Tescos offer free EV charging but not free petrol, which means I am yet again subsidising people who have more money than me.
Boycott them
On the positive(?) side the two Tescos near me in NE Wales very rarely have an EV charging in them so they have wasted a lot of money installing the chargers
If you shop at Tescos, they have wasted your money
Are any of the banks or atms or any other building they own , powered by coal or natural gas? Are any projects they do fund built by machines using diesel fuel? Until it is all powered by solar or wind, sue them for unequal standards and discrimination.
A bank that ignores profit centers will fade as other entities take advantage of that neglect. Stock in Bank Australia is at risk.
Heartland weighs in on whales versus wind.
https://www.cfact.org/2022/10/07/james-taylor-on-oann-dominions-wind-project-nail-in-the-coffin-for-right-whale/
We are getting noticed. Dominion has even attacked us in the press.
Here is Dominion Energy’s hit on our “Save the whales from OSW” campaign:
“Dominion Energy spokesperson Jeremy Slayton said in a statement, “These groups lack credibility on environmental issues. They are climate change deniers and oppose offshore wind for political purposes. Dominion Energy is a leader in protecting the environment. We are investing in numerous zero carbon and low carbon technologies for our customers’ benefit.”
Slayton listed protections including NOAA restrictions on pile driving foundation in the water during right whale migration through Virginia waters, bubble curtains to mitigate sound waves from pile driving, and certified Protected Species Observers. The utility also touts collaboration with Duke University and the Regional Wildlife Science Collaborative as it considers mitigation measures.
He said, “For our Coastal Virginia Offshore Wind project, we have taken concrete steps to protect the right whales and their migration path. No underwater construction will occur during the migration season, and the turbines will be spaced about a mile apart to avoid disturbing their path.””
Here is my reply:
Re 1 mile spacing. The study I reference in “How to kill whales with offshore wind” says that the excessive noise from a smaller 10MW turbine carries over a mile. Thus the noise from each of Dominion’s 15 MW turbines will overlap with multiple others. This will create a veritable wall of noise the whales are almost certain to avoid, pushing them into heavy traffic.
https://www.cfact.org/2022/09/27/how-to-kill-whales-with-offshore-wind/
Re bubble curtains in my Noise article I cite the federal science site that says pile driving is still “incredibly loud”, so that measure is useless.
https://www.cfact.org/2022/07/26/threat-to-endangered-whales-gets-louder/
Dominion’s primary mitigation strategy seems to be watching out for the whales. But the number of sightings is very small compared to the population that migrates thru twice a year so that strategy is ineffective.
As for not pile driving during migration, BOEM’s own research shows that whales can be present year round. There is no narrow migration season.
As for slandering CFACT et al, as skeptics of OSW they are able to take the hard look necessary to protect the whales. OSW is an environmentalist cause and to date no environmentalist whale protection group has even publicly spoken about the OSW issue. These skeptics are the whales best hope.
In fact Dominion’s assessment of threats to the whales is secret!
https://www.cfact.org/2022/09/15/dominion-hides-osw-threat-to-whales/
One wonders why?
Wind versus whales is a very serious issue.
Also this https://naturalgasnow.org/right-whales-endangered-by-wrong-energy-policies/
On a lighter note, an American tourist was visiting Cardiff and went into a pub. He sat at a table near 3 hefty women. After a while he said to them “I just love the way you ladies in England speak.”
The women shouted back “It’s Wales you idiot, Wales!”
The American apologized and said,” I’m sorry, I just love the way you whales in England speak.”
He was released from the hospital several weeks later.
It seems odd that they are only preparing an Environmental Assessment (EA) instead of a full Environmental Impact Statement (EIS). This is the sort of major project for which the Federal government is required to produce a full EIS. Something is missing here.
News to me. Definately something to sue on if true. This OSW approval is certainly a major rule. Ducking NEPA! Many thanks.
Speaking of which NOAA has a big reg proposal out to cut boat speeds to protect the right whales. They say the whales are severely threatened by human activity. No mention of OSW but given the threat it should be banned on the East Coast.
See https://www.regulations.gov/document/NOAA-NMFS-2022-0022-0005
Living in Las Vegas, our motto is “Save the (casino) Whales!”
How many of the blog roll sites are dead?
The Planet Gore doesn’t reply.
https://planetgore.nationalreview.com/
Thanks for the link, Dorn. It reads, “Hmmm… can’t reach this page”
Isn’t that odd. When it was active, whatever was there couldn’t reach out to me. Now it can’t be reached.
Regards,
Bob Tisdale
Hey, “ENSO Guy,” glad to see you comment (both the content and that it proves you were doing okay as of 5:12AM, today 🙂 ). We miss your excellent articles. How about doing a reprise series from “Who Turned Up the Heat” and “Climate Models Fail?”
Hope your family’s beach area property is still intact.
Take care.
As a follow up to a post a month ago about the DHC-3 Beaver float plane crash:
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/09/07/was-there-a-weather-connection-with-the-whidbey-float-plane-crash/
I posted a rebuttal to the nonsense that weather brought this plane down. I linked to actual aviation accident data that 3 prior examples in this type, one as recent as May 2022 showed structural failing with the exact same characteristic crash. the failure was known to the NTSB and they made NO recommendations.
Now to vindicate my post, and the source from which I referred, the FAA has issued an Emergency Airworthiness Directive on the type as follows:
https://drs.faa.gov/browse/excelExternalWindow/DRSDOCID139391948320221005002535.0001
And I quote: “This Emergency AD was prompted by multiple recent reports of cracks in the left-hand elevator auxiliary spar. The FAA’s analysis of these reports indicates that immediate AD action is warranted. The FAA is issuing this AD to detect and address cracks, corrosion, and previous repairs to the left-hand elevator auxiliary spar. The unsafe condition, if not addressed, could result in elevator flutter leading to elevator failure, with consequent loss of control of the airplane.”
So as Dan Gryder pointed out the behavior of this plane according to the ADS-B transponder data is the elevator failed, caused a severe pitch up, which stalled the wings and then it nose dived into the water.
Nothing to do with wind shear, it was a structural failure the NTSB knew about but did not make any safety recommendations from the 3 previous incidents/accidents with the same problem.
Interesting, thanks for that. It wasn’t a Beaver (which is DHC-2) it was an Otter with the turbine conversion.
If I read the history of de Havilland Canada right, the last single-engined Otter was built in 1967, so you’re looking at an aircraft that was a minimum of 55, and possibly as much as 70 years old. So maintenance (or lack thereof) could be an important issue.
Could using float planes on salt water all the time accelerate corrosion? Silly question really. Of course it would. All the Otters I’ve ever seen were used on lakes, which perhaps explains why they age so well.
Much like Mark Twain, the death of the Otter is somewhat exaggerated.
https://www.vikingair.com
Was it a sudden severe wind shift which caused an overload in a corroded weakened spar leading to failure?
Conservative BLM instead of dumbed down lefty victimhood-
Ignoring rules, teachers sneak tough math courses into their school (msn.com)
I would like take exception with the various graphs that show the atmospheric CO2 level rising like the take-off path of an airplane. These graphs have a vertical axis that consists of PPM values apparently considered as whole numbers. In fact, they are numerators of a fraction. The result of this practice gives a magnification to the slope of CO2 level growth that is misleading. According to Muana Loa measurement the atmospheric CO2 level in 1960 was 315 PPM. Expressed as a percentage this would be .000315 or three hundreths of one percent rounded to the nearest hundreth. The Muana Loa measurement of atmospheric CO2 level in 2020 was 420PPM. Expressed as a percentage this was .000420 or four hundreths of one percent rounded to the nearest hundreth. Thus, the growth in atmospheric CO2 level was only one hundreth of one percent from 1960 until 2020. A realistic graph of this increase would appear as an almost flat line hardly distinguishable with the bottom border of a graph using percentages from 0 to 100 percent as its vertical axis.
CO2 is estimated at up +48% since 1850
The global average temperature is estimated to be up
by about +1 degree C. in the 172 years since 1850
It would not be difficult to show both those changes on an honest chart.
The CO2 range would start at zero ppm,and go to 500ppm
The average temperature range would be based on the absolute temperature, and the chart could cover the normal temperature range of an ordinary home thermometer — NOT scary looking temperature anomalies on a chart with a tiny range of 1.5 degrees C.
Kelvin
Growth from 315 to 420 is 33%
The 1850 CO2 level is estimated at 280ppm.
Growth from 280ppm to about 415ppm currently,
is +48%
Thats because you forget that the two numbers are PPM.
Growth from 315/1000000 to 420/1000000 is 1/100th of one percent.
If CO2 only increased 1/100th of percent then there would only be 2457.0 GtCO2 (315.02 ppm) * 1.0001 = 2457.2 GtCO2 (315.02 ppm). Do you really think the CO2 concentration only increased by 0.02 ppm?
The important CO2 number is the number of molecules in a cubic meter and how that value changes. That number allows one to calculate the mean free path of a photon through the CO2 gas which can be used in the calculation of the magnitude of the GHE. Using your number the mean free path has changed by 33%, a modest change.
PPM is used for convenience only. It would be awkward dealing with numbers raised to the twentieth power.
At 420PPM the atmospheric CO2 level is 4/100ths of one percent. That level of CO2 in a CO2 fire extinguisher would make the extinguisher ineffective. How can it be reasonably claimed that that percent of CO2 in the atmosphere is changing the Earth’s air temperature and climate?
At 5 mg the fentanyl level is 1/1,000,000ths of one percent in a 150 lb person. How can it be reasonably claimed that the percent of fentanyl in dead person changed the person’s biological rhythm?
Yours is not a realistic comparison. There is too much difference in the role of CO2 in the atmosphere and the role of fentanyl in a human body to make a comparison.
It is absolutely realistic because it is literally happening to people as we speak. 1/1,000,000th of one percent is more than enough to so drastically alter a person’s biological rhythm that they often die. The point is that seemingly infinitesimal concentrations of substances can have even catastrophic effects.
There is no logical connection between a poison’s effect upon a single human and the effect of the current level of atmospheric CO2 on the Earth’s temperature and climate.
Our “School of Mines” radio station used to brag on the air about having “300 million microwatts” of power. The predominately STEM audience got it….
IS THE U.S. BLOOD SUPPLY TAINTED? 10/06/22
Despite reports that COVID-19 vaccines cause blood abnormalities, the American Red Cross and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration continue to brush off concerns that the massive vaccine campaign may have contaminated the country’s blood supply.
By Children’s Health Defense Team
After the U.S. Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA’s) Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) of COVID-19 vaccines, blood clots were some of the earliest adverse events observed, and abnormal coagulation continues to be one of the most frequent and serious problems reported.
As of mid-September, the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) — notorious for capturing only a minuscule proportion of adverse events — had received notification of more than 43,000 blood clotting disorders, including acute-onset problems in young children.
Clotting disorders make the blood clot “too easily,” generating clots that can travel through the bloodstream and increase the risk of heart attacks and strokes, among other potential complications.
Funeral directors and embalmers in the U.S. and U.K. have gone public with shocking descriptions of highly unusual blood clots in up to 85% of the bodies coming under their care — a “massive increase” compared to pre-COVID-19 vaccine times when ordinary-looking clots might be found in 5% to 10% of the deceased.
“In all my years of embalming, we would run across clots from time to time,” said Richard Hirschman, an experienced funeral director in Alabama, “but since May last year [2021], something about the blood has changed. It’s not normal. It’s drastic.”
In addition, after Covid, a new directive came out from AMA saying those with heart conditions should no longer take low dose aspirin due to supposed risk of bleeding. Since Covid produces clotting issues, the timing of this directive is quite concerning.
Sounds like they want to promote blood clotting. Is that part of the plan?
I predict that cardiologists will be very busy in the coming years.
Something about that AMA directive doesn’t make sense. If clotting is a problem in the covid era, why would any sane person want to stop taking Aspirin, which is an anti-coagulant?
Or is it just another part of an anti-aspirin campaign that’s been shaping up for a decade or two? The only over-the-counter pain reliever that the medical establishment seems to like now (forget ibuprofen and naproxen, they apparently “can cause bleeding” too) is acetaminophen/paracetamol, despite the fact that in high doses it can cause liver damage. In very high doses, it can cause irreversible, fatal liver damage.
Lately, I’ve been wondering if the fact that I survived long covid from the original strain in 2020, and my poor wife did not, could be due to my taking an anti-coagulant (apixaban) twice a day since I had a heart attack 12 years ago. Plus I still take full strength (325 mg) aspirin every day (to the horror of my family doctor).
Does THIS look like “Science?”
https://twitter.com/DrEliDavid/status/1578857585536819203
I have read nothing about how wind and PV farms faired during Ian. Anyone have any information?
https://mishtalk.com/economics/california-accuses-valero-of-oil-price-gouging-valeros-response-is-amusing
Ouch! But CA politicians and regulators have no shame.
“The State of Florida- New Mrna COVID-19 Vaccine Guidance”
This came out Friday.
We should run a pool to bet on how long it takes so called Newz Media to ignore it.
Yeah, but that came from the Super-MAGA state, FL. Good Marxists ignore stuff from them.
I gather Twitter has already banned it.
And retracted that
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/florida-surgeon-general-recommends-against-mrna-covid-19-vaccines-males-aged-18-39
How many countries are now “climate-deniers”? I count UK, Hungary, Italy. The US was a denier under Trump and will hopefully be again after 2024. Ditto Canada.
There is a great deal of leftist guff about income inequality in the US. I got a bit suspicious when I read somewhere that 80% of those below the poverty line had air conditioners. This book talk analyzes various estimates of income, taxes paid and transfers. They come up with a 4-fold difference between the middle of the top quintile and the bottom. Also there are interesting stats on labour participation.
Most under the poverty line probably have color TVs, many have a car, and most probably have some sort of smartphone. To paraphrase Einstein, “It is all relative.”
For those WUWT readers such as myself who are not petroleum experts I would enjoy a simple (if possible) discussion on what happens to all of the billions of barrels of gasoline and diesel if all internal combustion engines were not used. I have read that gasoline in particular was once considered a by-product of little use until ICE power was developed.
Suspend the arguments about the electric grids being unable to cope and insufficient raw rare earth and minerals are readily available.
My magic scenario is that the green utopia has been accomplished. But we still need petroleum for many other products in modern life. What is to be done? Back to flaring? Defeats the purpose of doing away with ICE power it appears. What other useful purpose is there?
If possible keep the discussion on an 8th grade level so that elected officials can understand it.
Basically, is there a potential environmental catastrophe possible from NOT using gasoline and diesel? The anti nuclear power people always want to throw out the problem of spent rods. Are the greens creating a similar problem?
Ridicule if you must but this is an honest question.
The scary prospect is not so much the gasoline that won’t be burned, but the oil and gas that won’t be extracted.
No oil and gas; no petrochemicals. No gas; no nitrogen fertilizer. No nitrogen fertilizer; a quarter of the food production.
It will be very grim.
Is there a good way to find all the comments on a given WUWT article that have been made since a given time? Basically I’m looking for a way to find all the replies to comments made since the last time I read the article without having to page through the entire chain manually looking at each timestamp. Something like a “sort comments by timestamp” option. I use Safari and its webpage search function can sometimes help with this depending on the date/time last read and the current date/time but it does not support regular expression searching so there are often cases when it is inadequate.
At the beginning of the comments section you can direct the order of comments to start with the Newest comment. The default setting is to start with the Oldest comment. That might help.
Perfect! I’ve been reading WUWT for years and never noticed that!
Thanks,
Ric
When I’m trying to get caught up, I just do a global search for the current date, e.g. “October 10”.
Do you remember the story WUWT ran a while ago about Silphium going extinct due to climate change? A research team thinks they may have found surviving plants in Turkey which should upset the naysayers.
French “journal de référence” promotes a book who dispels the usual false ideas and received wisdom regarding rats.
Paris rats are in fact “des surmulots” (super wood mouse?). They aren’t that bad.
https://nitter.net/DenisCosnard/status/1583119963594043392#m