Essay by Eric Worrall
Greta Wazzername trying to remain relevant in a world which has largely forgotten her.
Greta Thunberg on the climate delusion: ‘We’ve been greenwashed out of our senses. It’s time to stand our ground’
Greta Thunberg Sat 8 Oct 2022 19.00 AEDT
Governments may say they’re doing all they can to halt the climate crisis. Don’t fall for it – then we might still have time to turn things around
Maybe it is the name that is the problem. Climate change. It doesn’t sound that bad. The word “change” resonates quite pleasantly in our restless world. No matter how fortunate we are, there is always room for the appealing possibility of improvement. Then there is the “climate” part. Again, it does not sound so bad. If you live in many of the high-emitting nations of the global north, the idea of a “changing climate” could well be interpreted as the very opposite of scary and dangerous. A changing world. A warming planet. What’s not to like?
Perhaps that is partly why so many people still think of climate change as a slow, linear and even rather harmless process. But the climate is not just changing. It is destabilising. It is breaking down. The delicately balanced natural patterns and cycles that are a vital part of the systems that sustain life on Earth are being disrupted, and the consequences could be catastrophic. Because there are negative tipping points, points of no return. And we do not know exactly when we might cross them. What we do know, however, is that they are getting awfully close, even the really big ones. Transformation often starts slowly, but then it begins to accelerate.
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We cannot live sustainably within today’s economic system. Yet that is what we are constantly being told we can do. We can buy sustainable cars, travel on sustainable motorways, powered by sustainable petroleum. We can eat sustainable meat and drink sustainable soft drinks out of sustainable plastic bottles. We can buy sustainable fast fashion and fly on sustainable aeroplanes using sustainable fuels. And, of course, we are going to meet our short- and long-term sustainable climate targets, too, without making the slightest effort.
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Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/oct/08/greta-thunberg-climate-delusion-greenwashed-out-of-our-senses
Greta, I’d love to hear your explanation of what flavour of communism could replace “today’s economic system”, to allow us to live sustainably, but not enough to buy your book.
In any case, since you skipped so much school, I could probably learn more about economic systems watching my pet fish, than reading or listening to your half baked juvenile economic theories.
I think it was cruel to exploit someone with Aspergers syndrome.
The exploitation of a high school dropout is a mere pimple on the ass of their overarching goals.
Greta may have one talent – acting. This could have been inherited from her parents, but if so, she has exceeded their talents. She seems to be good at modelling the Aspergers role, even to the point of being able to model the “blow up” stage, as with the comments on the deep green world leaders that put her in the sin bin.
Actually, Greta’s mother is a well known opera singer. Greta is not nearly as talented as her mother.
Here she is doing “L’amour est un oiseau rebelle” from Act 1 of Bizet’s Carmen (a/k/a the Habanera)
Pretty good voice.
One should stick to what one is good at.
Just remember that Carmen in the source material was a murdering thief.
Just saying.
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How dare they
I think the alarmists have realized Greta was a PR mistake. School dropout with mild autism is not a good look for educated support of the ‘science’. The sailboat stunt was a brutal backfire, as the crew had to fly from the US to UK to sail her back to US. And her snarly scolding about COP26 did not go down well, as she pointed out it had failed and so failed her.
Old saying, you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. Greta is vinegar.
I think Greta is more along the lines of the La Brea Tar Pits.
Once a person gets involved with Greta in any fashion they are stuck until they peel Greta and her lying abusive family off…
Along with any funds, sense of self, common sense or sanity they used to have.
Years ago, Ted Kennedy called a 350 pound woman in front of a congressional hearing to testify about her hunger caused by running out of food stamps each month. I remember it not going over too well.
Those were the days. Now I’d pay good money to see that.
Back in the day, she could have cut up the corrupt Senator and lived off him for a Year. Saw him on the senate floor back then. He cast the shadow of a 747. No a literal shadow, at 3 axe handles across the shoulder the man was morbidly obese. He needed 2 senate seats to rest in place.
I’m not playing off that media induced “Lion of the Senate” BS. Somebody once said he was Lying in the Senate and a hard of hearing Dan Rather ran with that whole lion falderol.
Any similarity to Clarence’s species would be the Cowardly Lion soaked in Bushmills that ran from the Dyke Bridge on Chappaquiddick Island on July 18th, 1969 leaving Mary Jo Kopechne to drown.
Don’t agree with a word she has uttered, but I do think she has been shameless exploited by “people who should know better”.
Sorta like “Brandon” aka Prez Potatohead.
Complte balderdash. People don’t even know what they are. It’s pure alarmist doom fantasy.
In reality, if any such tipping points existed, they’d have been triggered by any warming in the past. They obviously haven’t, so don’t exist. The whole scare falls apart on this single fact.
I really roll my eyes when I hear the green slime use words like irreversible and phrases like “tipping points”. Obviously these unenlightened alarmists understand nothing about geologic history or timetables.
Marc, when we hear the wisdom of the Alarmists in full flow, we are forced to ask. What else don’t they understand?
Economics? Human psychology? Reality?
the most telling thing for me is that all such rubbish inherently admits that right now we live in a stable environment. How? Why? Noone cares.
and yet there must be huge buffer systems and positive feedback loops that mainttian the stability.
a true scientist would investigate these buffer systems in order to understand them.
and yet they dont.
quacks.
Negative feedback loops impose stability. Positive feedback loops result in runaway instability.
Got to love this generalising. They don’t know when, but they are close. Honest. And Big. But not big enough to actually define.
Like to see those people survive in the real world. Try chairing a project planning meeting with such vagueness and see what happens.
Its only been 4.5 billion years! Give it a little more time.
“And we do not know exactly when we might cross them”
Yes, we do; something like 10,000 years from now, or whenever major solar changes take place together with pole reversals, Milankovich cycles and the like.
In any case, who the heck believes that retarded girl writes such purportedly elaborate comments? I’d love to see who her ghost writers are.
Riding the Scandinavian short bus.
“‘We’ve been greenwashed out of our senses. It’s time to stand our ground’”
In this she is totally correct.
We really do need to get all this so-called “green” anti-environmental, anti-people anti-CO2 agenda out of politics and out of everything…
.. so that economies and energy supply have a chance to stabilise and progress (rather than be destroyed)
We should remind everyone that the substance that cause most “green”… is CO2. !
plus water and sunlight…
No. I’m sorry, Ms. Thunberg. The crisis has arrived and passed us by in a cloud of faux outrage and the fabrication of the end times. The prophecy fizzled, and its repetition just became ever so boring. There is no turn around. Take up high altitude parachuting or maybe race-car driving. Something, anything to fill the inevitable void of your crises withdrawal. Buh bye, now.
Hmm. How far from Bornholm island does she live? Maybe she took up scuba diving instead?
It’s sad what has happened. I don’t think it’s her fault or she’s a bad person. I’m a year younger than her and when I first found out about climate change I was pretty depressed for a while. So I sympathize more with Greta’s situation. And then I found this page along with other realist pages. I have to say I may actually be the only realist among Gen Z; everyone I talk to about climate change thinks that winter will soon disappear thanks to two dry seasons most likely caused by La Niña. Climate realism badly needs more funding because it’s like David going after 10 Goliaths. Without more money, we simply cannot compete 🙁
Hang in there Bud. Like the famous quote says “sanity only returns one person at a time”. Im starting to detect some questioning amongst my kids cohort – 40ish, so more like GenX or Millennials – but they are the ones that are going to be running things soon. And they are concerned about by Grandkids future, questioning what they are being taught in school. The elite have overplayed their hand the last couple of years, and the silent majority who just want to get on with their lives, are starting to awake to the threat.
Whats going on is essentially a class war – and utlimately, that never ends well for the Aristocrats. Its going to cause a lot of damage in the meantime, though, and unfortunately, its going to have to be you young folk who fix that.
I’m impressed Walter. Independent thinking is uncommon for young people today. Good to see the indoctrination didn’t set. We can only hope that there are enough of you to influence politics in the future. Keep asking questions and pull people up on their BS.
Thanks for sharing Walter. If you want to write about your experience in detail please submit a story. The impact of relentless climate propaganda on young people one of the worst aspects of the green cult.
I’d love to. I’ll write one soon.
She is not a child. She is an adult. So, yes, now, it is her fault. She us just another climate grifter. She needs to close her mouth and go get a job.
I fear she could work for WEF and Klaus Schwab or become a central banker.
I hope she will wake up and turn on her handlers.
I’m reminded of the movie, “They Live.”
I applaud you for using your brain and actually looking at facts and data. Only wish more of your generation had independent analytical skills.
Keep in mind that the kids are constantly deluged with leftwing propaganda from every direction today.
It’s a lot harder being a kid nowadays. The things they have to deal with and think about are overwhelming. It’s amazing they can think straight after being exposed to all the lies and distortions put out by the Left.
Well said that man
“Without more money, we simply cannot compete”
We have one thing we can compete with: The Facts.
The fact is there is no evidence that CO2 is doing, or will do, what the alarmists claim it will.
The fact is the alarmists don’t have the facts to back up their dire climate change claims.
We also have more than 50 years of failed environmental doomsday predictions.
“A changing world. A warming planet. What’s not to like?”
Hard to disagree with that part.
The part about tipping points, not so much. It is not a delicate balance. Every thunderstorm takes a sledgehammer to the “delicate” atmosphere, and it works thousands of times more powerfully than the incremental static warming effect of increased concentration of CO2.
About 2000 thunderstorms are active on the planet at any one time, and there are about 16 million of them per year. A one-inch-per-hour rate of rainfall in a typical convective cell represents a 17,600 W/m^2 conversion of the latent energy of water vapor into work and motion to turn the atmosphere over bottom to top. A global tipping point from what non-condensing GHGs do? No.
https://www.nssl.noaa.gov/education/svrwx101/thunderstorms/
Very recent photo:
Poor Greta. She’s a victim of “the cause” (Michael Mann’s term, and that tells you a lot about HIS thinking), just like those twits who block traffic and glue themselves to things. Cynically exploited by the leaders, because they don’t have the education or the intellect to be able to question the stories they’ve been indoctrinated with, paid by shadowy figures like Soros, and sent out to disrupt the lives of ordinary folk.
Greta seems to have been programmed by her parents, which makes it doubly shocking. I wonder what her chances of living a normal life are.
As she said, she has been robbed of her childhood. I hope it backfires.
Greta has been living in a constant state of fear of the climate. That distorted thinking will definitely rob you of your childhood.
It’s not your fault, Greta. You were led astray by people and scientists you trust. And, unfortunately, you are not alone as millions of kids live in that same state of fear over the climate because they have been lied to by authority figures.
The Human-casued Climate Change Charlatans must be real proud of themselves. A State of Fear is their goal.
“You were led astray”
Article in Guardian 7th October 22 about a Just Stop Oil protest in London.
“Oliver Clegg, 19, a student at Manchester, who had glued his hand to the road said: “The climate crisis has a disproportionate effect on people who are already marginalised, including queer people. The climate crisis is a queer issue. Civil resistance is a potent expression of queerness”
Another student said “Enough is enough. We need an end to all fossil fuel extraction , a redistribution of wealth, and clean, affordable energy for all”
One 50 year old van driver stopped by the process said he understood why “because it’s people’s lives at risk. We need proper energy, renewable energy. At the same time we have a right to get to work”
To rephrase Star Wars ‘the astray-ness is deep with these ones’ but also obviously widespread.
Boiled down, she wants to see a reduction in atmospheric CO2. Good luck with that
she might want to talk to the green freaks in Great Britain and Germany that are/want to cut down the forest to put up wind mills
Hey Eric says:
” I could probably learn more about economic systems watching my pet fish “
— That’s your own independent, meaningful statement about your own brain power. Maybe you should sleep in the aquarium more often – to improve your intelligence.
One of our fish has learned to flick pebbles at the glass when the food is late. Seriously you can learn a lot watching fish – more than by reading the writing of someone who is proud of all the school she missed.
Eric,
Watching how and what animals and birds learn and how the knowledge spreads is an interesting occupation in itself. Much goes unnoticed by the vast majority of people.We all know about gulls following the trawlers but there’s so much more and like humans some knowledge has been lost
I’m constatnly amazed at how smart animals are. Animals of all kinds. I suppose that makes sense since they have to survive.
I think that we routinely underestimate the intelligence of animals because they can’t talk. My former Rhodesian Ridgeback had a working vocabulary of about 20 nouns and verbs that I was aware of. If I said “rabbit,” she would look around; if I said “squirrel,” she would look up.
One time, when a friend was visiting, she reminded me that it was dinner time. I had always retrieved her bowl and filled it at feeding time. This time, in jest, I told her to go get her bowl and bring it to me. She immediately ran over to her bowl, but ran into some problems when it overturned and sat there like a metal turtle that she couldn’t get her mouth around. She was particularly good at interpreting my behavior, better than I was of hers.
Ahh, you were lucky, Eric.
I’ve been chased off by swans, physically obstructed and nearly knocked to the ground by ponies demanding the contents of the supermarket carrier bag I was carrying.
Does he happen to be a Clown Loach? We have one that does exactly the same thing but can pick up fairly large rocks and throw them at the glass.
As far as I’m concerned, I’d love to sleep in the aquarium but due to too many tipping points, it capsized.
Me too, due to too many tippling points, I once fell into the coy pond
Jealously of fish.. won’t help your cause.
Such a personal insult towards Eric?
Shame on you!
Show some maturity and apologize.
Really! Totally uncalled for personal attack on Eric.
Socialists really get their panties in wads whenever anyone questions their fantasies.
Greta is fifty shades of green.
None of them green.
That would make a great Christmas fun book.
Fifty Shades of Green, the complete detail of the top fifty Green advocates.
Maybe start with King Charles III and his chatting to trees an overview of nonsense.
Then Al Gore from riches to failure and more riches via a Nobel Peace Prize.
Ema Thompson’s demand we fly less might reveal her own flight history, and detail how many hen parties took up her insane idea of holding their fly away get togethers in Latvia rather than New York?
David Attenborough would of course be in there, maybe with a selfie of him and a walrus with a polar bear photo bombing their picture.
Michael E Mann, would have to feature maybe a shot of him under a bristlecone pine, and a speech bubble, ” how do I make a fortune and a hockey stick out of this???
You can fill in your other favourites s.o many to list.
Sweden produced two Gretas. One was Garbo, and the other one talks Garbage.
Our benefit from Greta Garbo far outweighs the negatives from junior Greta, by far.
I don’t know what to say other than I don’t take advise from the likes of Greta.
It amazes me that anyone in the greenlicking media ever thought people would take such advise. It beggars belief that any fully adult person would spend a moment listening to her.
I can’t see that she fits into any useful advertising niche. What were they thinking? Did they think that presenting the clearly instructed, repetitive, hysterical rantings of a psychologically disturbed child would persuade either adults or even other children?
Pied Piper stuff. The young and naïve fall for the colourful and flashy “science” that is portrayed. Large amounts of money are demanded and those that fell for the scam are led to oblivion. As a child, Greta was regarded as being immune to being criticised- it is bad form to dash a child’s hopes. It might hurt their feelings.
If Greta is to be regarded as an adult- she turns 20 in January, she will have to be able to stand up to scrutiny. Will the left try to argue that her Asperger’s gives continued immunity to scrutiny? If so, it shows we are being asked to believe someone who is not a capable adult.
In Sweden, 18 is the age where one is considered an adult. At what age WILL Greta actually become a responsible adult? Why on earth should anyone act on the whims of someone who is not a responsible adult. We can listen, but we must scrutinize what they say to ascertain if it is valid.
What I am really waiting for is for Greta to have the penny-drop moment when she realizes it was all a load of garbage from day one. Who will she sue for being manipulated? Will she blow the whistle on the BS at some big climate luv-in? When she wakes up, will she address CPAC and Heartland, driving the climate cultists insane? Will they then go total hypocrite and attack her Asperger’s?
I’m actually concerned about Greta and her followers, in my opinion she’s been ruthlessly exploited and had her head filled with apocalyptic nonsense, and has passed these unhappy messages on to her followers.
Once they realise their campaign has utterly failed, they might go all Jonestown, kill themselves to avoid their imaginary climate apocalypse. Teenage suicide is already a big issue. If Greta’s online messages trigger a mass suicide of deluded kids, that would be an unimaginable tragedy.
In true saint form, the martyr role must be a temptation.
Grape flavoured Kool aid is so passé. Once again, it is Pied Piper stuff- those that are terminally brainwashed by flagrant bovine excrement will be led to their doom. I could be facetious-some people just should not reproduce.
Just hope the mass Jonestown style suicide does not make a martyr out of Greta her sheep.
Perhaps, years in the future, Greta will see videos of her old “how dare you” temper tantrum and sour-puss expression being ignored by Donald Trump and realize what a total puppet she was.
Perhaps I should have sung the song for Greta-to a very catchy Jewish song-Dayenu. My version is best sung fast tempo.
There are no decent versions of it on YouTube to put my lyrics to, so readers will need a good imagination. Not an easy one to sing quickly. My version is pretty crook. Too lazy to practice it to perfection, but it is up on YouTube anyway. It is the thought that counts.
12 years is all we’ve got
Chasing profits
Lost the plot
Took my childhood
And my future
How dare you
How, how dare you
How, how dare you.
How, how dare you
How dare you how dare you
Found on a doorstep sobbing loudly
Found on a doorstep,
That was bullshit
No to flying
Yes to lying
How dare you
How , how dare you
How, how dare you
How, how dare you
(Monty Python type voice)We’ve all had enough
Go back to school you spoilt brat
You can’t see CO2
You’ve been used
Used like a piece of toilet paper.
In principle bet with the convenor of the climate realists-I bet that Tony Heller would love this number. Alas, the scamdemic prevented Tony from coming to Australia to have it sung live, complete with the costume.
Greta is now an adult and I’m not sure she’d take that option – far too fond of having followers to get rid of herself or any of them. I think the vulnerable followers may be at risk but it’s not a given. My biggest fear is that they’ll just keep doing more and more extreme publicity stunts until, eventually, they’ll involve fatalities – gluing themselves to a rail line of boat or some such stupidity.
“What I am really waiting for is for Greta to have the penny-drop moment when she realizes it was all a load of garbage from day one.”
So you are saying that hopefully one day Greta Thunberg will turn into Naomi Seibt?
Who says it hasn’t already happened but she realises she’s onto a nice little earner if she keeps up the pretence? No, she’ll never be a Naomi Seibt – she lacks the intelligence, understanding and integrity to do that.
It’s amazing how frequently this happens.
They declare a deadline by which we must prostrate ourselves to the gods of global warming, otherwise catastrophe will surely strike us all down.
The deadline comes and goes, nothing bad happens.
Acolytes tell us that we have been granted a reprieve, but this time, they really mean it. If we fail to meet the new deadline, surely we all will die.
Greta who?
Grrrriiiitta, “tipping points”, “there’s still time”, etc. has been proclaimed many times.
The “time” left to change and the “tipping points” dates of both have come and gone.
The “time left to change” will never have an expiration date as long the CAGW hype as an excuse and lever to power still has any gas in it’s tank.
You ran out of gas as their poster child.
I’m sorry Greta but NO WE DON’T, we’re cooked. Give me back my Hummer for what remains of my life!
Wow, “negative tipping points” sounds a lot worse than the plain old-fashioned tipping points that are about to happen any minute now.
What happens when a negative tipping point meets a (positive?) tipping point?
I think I saw that threat on a Star Trek (or a Eureka! episode?).
I think Spock (or Sheriff Carter?) had them reverse the polarity on something.
An abundance of photos gets produced. It’s called an existential flash.
Photo’s? Surely you mean photon’s? Otherwise having someone around to photograph you flashing, existential or otherwise, could be somewhat incriminating.
Both tipping points are annihilated.
Lemme guess. She’s broke again (just like Hillary).
Just the other day here there was a link which says she is worth $1,000,000
Sure, and were Greta’s previous statements about climate disaster immanency wrong or lies?
What I would like to say to Greta Thunberg – “Oh, just GO AWAY!”
I am no psychologist but have read much and have a lot of experience.
I note that in the image of Greta here, her Left eye is pointing up, which to me indicates that she using her Lefthand side brain in formulating what she is saying.
Now, I understand that the left hand side of our brains is mainly concerned with empathy, emotions, feelings and wishes rather than harsh, logical reality.
In a well balanced individual the two sides of the brain usually work together but can create tensions which need to resolved.
IMO the image of Greta here gives strong indication that something is wrong and she is likely to be talking rubbish, albeit articulate.
one trick pony . . she needs new management
No she just needs that pony her Green parents refused to get her when she was ten.
“The AP has, for example, received an $8 million grant to do
climate advocacy “reporting””
MSM’s trying to use “farce checkers” to help Green groups get Steve
Milloy deplatformed as they’re complaining to Big Tech social media
that his posts are “akin to hate speech & lies about Covid-19”.
These billionaires’ orgs. are giving $8M to AP- Hewlett, Howard Hughes,
James Murdoch, Rockefeller & the Walton Family. Since they couldn’t
disprove what he said on one Tweet, all they could do was draw an “X”
over the Tweet which Steve had based on a WUWT graph.
https://junkscience.com/2022/10/new-push-to-de-platform-climate-dissent-fueled-by-junkscience-tweets/
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/09/29/after-hurricane-ian-no-trend-in-florida-landfalls-global-activity-trending-down/
Go get ’em, Steve!
How pathetic are the alarmists. They can’t come up with an argument that refutes skeptics claims, so their only alternative is to deplatform and shut up their tormentor.
But they can’t change the facts. The facts say there is no evidence that CO2 will do any harm to anyone.
Greta changed her storyline to include sufficient time to save the world for unproven reasons, yet her message is identical.
No dice child!
Even after denying the known world, heat, food, cooling, transportation, etc. none of the governments can reduce CO₂ enough to meet your demands or to reduce temperatures.
Grow up and get a job.
ATheoK: “Grow up and get a job.“
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Better yet, go back and get your H.S. diploma… then get a job.
‘The word “change” resonates quite pleasantly in our restless world.’
Of course it does, sweetie.
‘Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time. We are the ones we’ve been waiting for. We are the change that we seek.’
– Barack Obama
I wonder what Obama was doing in Ukraine?
Good question.
The New Congress needs to look into that.
They need to investigate everything the Obama-Biden administration did in Ukraine and elsewhere, and they need to investigate the Biden-Harris administration. Both administrations are corrupt and traitorous and the American people need to know all this.
And don’t leave Hillary out of the investigation. She’s in the corruption and traitorous behavior up to her neck.
The last three Democrat administrations need to be held accoutable. Of course, that is made easier since most of the criminals in the current Biden administration were also in the Obama administration and many were in the Clinton administration. All corrupt. All seeking to create a Democrat Dictatorship in the United States by hook or crook.
All their nefarious activities need to be exposed for all to see. Otherwise, we lose our Republic.
It takes years of studies and hard work to acquire a skill in any field, be it plumbing or climate science. But to acquire a skill of a scoundrel you don’t need to spend much time. All you need is to have no shame. Greta is practicing the art of being a scoundrel.
Pippi Långstrump was fun when she was a little girl. She’s boring now.
No. It is too late we can’t save ourselves so leave us alone and let use be rich and comfortable until your projected terrible end takes us all away.
Greta the green goblin should go forth and never multipy
Ye gods, the horror: little Gretalings infesting the planet.
“.. In any case, since you skipped so much school, I could probably learn more about economic systems watching my pet fish, than reading or listening to your half baked juvenile economic theories.”
Really, you think she wrote anything??
Good one!
Those “half-baked juvenile economic theories” aren’t hers. They belong to her mature handlers
What we do know, however, is that they are getting awfully close.
Go on, give us some dates. I dare you.
Greta: I know I told you the world was going to end, but I could have been mistaken.
I felt sorry for her some years ago when she was a very young girl drop out from school. She was telling the world what to do but did not understand anything of the matter herself. Here we are, the young girl har become a young adult and still don’t understand much of climate science…
there are TWO words we need to remove from dictionaries and useage
sustainablility
and
unprecedented
Oz, I agree!
I stridently reject “sustainability” at every turn in my work in higher education administration. Sustainism is the realm of small-thinking, woke busybodies, accomplishing nothing but virtue signaling and greenwashing, and leaving destruction in their wake. Sustainists are almost uniformly (97%, maybe?) cut from the same lunatic fringe, socialist cloth.
Rather, I push environmental stewardship, working in support and in concert with growth and development.
As for “unprecedented,” that word is rolled out as a lazy substitute for the lack of historical research and perspective. As King Solomon (it is believed) said in the Book of Ecclesiastes, “there is nothing new under the sun.” Unprecedented is simply an attempt at sensationalism to garner attention.
Saint Greta has spoken. So let it be written, so let it be done!
The pandemic killed the popular green movement. After trying a year with no job, no travel (only walking and cycling approved), stuck at home with only TV and clapping for comfort people said NO. They have seen what green communism offers and they don’t want it.
Greenwashing is so yesterday. Now we have sustainablewashing, which is so much better. Poor Greta. Trying so hard to remain relevant in the Cult of Calamitous Climate. Maybe she could get some lessons from Al Whatshisname.
The word “might” always reveals a lie.
Why give this item the oxygen of publicity?
yeah I posted something I should not have so edited.
can’t delete it.
If she ever has kids I will write a letter of protest.
The Penetration Problem. Part I: Wind and Solar – The More You Do, The Harder It Gets
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/the-penetration-problem-part-i-wind-and-solar-the-more-you-do-the/edit
From Dr. Judith Curry’s Climate Etc.
There is a belief, by mostly among energy illiterates, increasing the level of wind and solar systems will get easier as more and more wind and solar systems are added to the grid.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
Think of expensive grid expansions and augmentations all over the US
Think of super-expensive grid-scale battery systems
Think of increasing capacities, MW, of existing power plants operating at variable outputs (less efficient, just as a car in urban areas) to counteract the increasingly larger up and down quantities of wind and solar outputs, 24/7/365
The challenge may be better understood as akin to pushing a huge rock, which is getting heavier and heavier, up a steeper and steeper slope, while the ground below is getting slicker and more unstable.
The drawbacks associated with increased penetration of wind and solar totally swamp any potential benefits that might be achieved through economies of scale, as Europe, which practiced an expensive, decades-long, wind/solar experiment, made possible by:
1) Huge subsidies,
2) Low interest rates,
3) Low inflation rates
4) Stable fuel and materials prices
5) A plentiful supply of low-cost oil, coal, and gas from Russia.
Items 2, 3, 4 and 5 have drastically changed, due to the predictable blowback of the EU’s hasty, vengeful, ill-considered sanctions to punish Russia, which will certainly caused a European recession, and may cause a worldwide recession.
The bulk power system has traditionally been strong and very robust, with a 99.98% reliability of service.
Adding minor percentages of wind and solar, say 5% of each, causes only minor problems.
Wind and solar rely on the electrical system for support, because they could not be admitted to the grid without it.
Wind and solar do not support the electrical system, as do almost all other generating plants tied to the grid.
The electrical system has a limited spare capacity to accommodate the variable outputs from wind and solar systems, which would displace some fossil fuel generation.
At low penetration of wind and solar, say 3 to 4%, one kWh of solar/wind may displace the CO2 of about 0.9 kWh of fossil fuel generation, due to minor system inefficiencies
At high penetration of wind and solar, say 16 to 18%, one kWh of wind/solar may displace the CO2 of only about 0.6 kWh of fossil fuel generation, due to major system inefficiencies.
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Greta should sell tapes of her ramblings to sleep clinics. While she is at it she could sell autographed copies of that gaping-mouth, frowny-faced portrait to descendants of the Grimm brothers who want to renew the scary fairytale industry.
I find it hard to believe a dropout wrote that screed!
Sure the science was mixed up but the prose was too sophisticated.
Greta Thunberg… thundering… there’s a look of thunder & lighting.
It’s child abuse.
“Germany is importing coal from South Africa, which is ironic because, just one year ago, Germany gave South Africa $810 million in exchange for an agreement that South Africa not use coal”
Talk about insanity.
Grumpy.
Greta Grumpy.
Oddgeir
She’s retarded
‘Her’ book was probably ghost written under her name.
For those who missed the “Teenage Consultant” in Saturday’s Dilbert strip, you might get a chuckle out of this:
https://dilbert.com/strip/2022-10-08
Communism 101. We must all listen because she is kind, caring and concerned.
The road to hell is paved with ignorance.
does greta know that neighbor norway is increasing its FF production , drilling deep in the arctic and making obscene profits supplying europe with scarce FF ? ? either she’s woefully ignorant or she really doesn’t give an f about that co2 malarkey .
I have turned around a long time ago.Away from green retards and their insane ideas.
“..But the climate is not just changing. It is destabilising. It is breaking down.”. Oh, really, Greta? The only thing I see destabilizing and breaking down is you.
I think Greta needs to be sent to the wood shed. Not to be paddled but to chop wood so the people of Europe have something to burn when the temperature gets freezing and people don’t die.
Where does Thunberg come up with this stuff? And why would anyone find anything she says remotely believable? What does this say about those who support her?
Really? We still have some time? Is it, like… five years???
I really thought by now they would have gotten rid of the term Climate Change and fully embraced Climate Catastropy or Climate Calamity.
They need to hire a new PR/Marketing firm.