Claim: Fauci Grants $650K to UK Researcher to Perform Gain of Function Studies on Covid Like Viruses

Essay by Eric Worrall

Note from Anthony: I don’t like running stories on CV19, as they end up in food fights and more suppression by Google, FB, etc. But this one, deserves to be told. If true, it is madness – Anthony

h/t Dr. Willie Soon; Is the plan to keep attempting to wipe out mankind until they get it right?

Outcry as British researcher is given ANOTHER US grant to investigate COVID – despite fears his initial work at Wuhan lab triggered pandemic: Peter Daszak is paid $650,000 to study bat coronaviruses – and ‘assess their ability to infect humans’

  • The EcoHealth Alliance was awarded a new $650,000, 5-year grant in August
  • The funding will see the group study coronaviruses and bats in southeast Asia
  • It’s the same type of research that many believe is linked to Covid’s origin
  • The EcoHealth Alliance was previously known to use the Wuhan Institute of Virology in its research 

By PAUL FARRELL FOR DAILYMAIL.COM

PUBLISHED: 15:55 AEDT, 3 October 2022 | UPDATED: 02:24 AEDT, 4 October 2022

US health officials have given a hugely controversial research organization another $650,000 (£580k) grant to experiment on Covid-like viruses – despite fears similar risky work may have actually sparked the pandemic.

EcoHealth Alliance, run by British zoologist Peter Daszak, funded studies in Wuhan – the Chinese city where the pandemic began – on manipulated coronaviruses.

Such research, known as ‘gain of function’, can see viruses deliberately engineered to become more dangerous to humans.

EcoHealth Alliance’s five-year experiment will investigate ‘the potential for future bat coronavirus emergence’ in Asia, with scientists set to trawl caves in Myanmar, Laos and Vietnam in the hunt to prevent another viral crisis.

The grant was awarded last month by the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), which is still ran by Dr Anthony Fauci.

Daszak’s group, which bizarrely evolved from a save-the-manatees non-profit to a top champion of viral gain-of-function research as it chased federal funding, has long been at the center of questions about the origins of Covid.

Read more: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11273773/Outcry-British-researcher-given-grant-NIH-investigate-COVID.html

Surely there is someone in the Biden administration with enough sense to shut this craziness down.

A word of caution, as far as I know nobody has explicitly said the money is for “gain of function” research But this seems a reasonable inference, given the history of EcoHealth Alliance’s apparent association with gain of function research, and the previous use of gain of function research to conduct such assessments.

Note I am not in any sense accusing Peter Daszak of lax biosecurity. My position is no level of biosecurity is good enough. The potential downside of an accidental release of a genetically enhanced virus, as may have happened in Wuhan, in my opinion makes such experiments completely unacceptable, no matter how tight the biosecurity.

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atticman
October 4, 2022 10:02 am

If true, unbelieveable! Does no-one ever learn?

Scissor
Reply to  atticman
October 4, 2022 10:41 am

Covid been very very good to Fauci. It’s been reported that between he and his wife, their net wealth is up over $5 million within the past three years to over $12 million. Such low reward for careers in government “service.”

AntonyIndia
Reply to  Scissor
October 5, 2022 12:35 am

How do they sleep at night?

ozspeaksup
Reply to  AntonyIndia
October 5, 2022 3:43 am

psychopaths always sleep well

roaddog
Reply to  AntonyIndia
October 5, 2022 5:03 am

Upside down, hanging from a beam.

Reply to  Scissor
October 5, 2022 6:06 am

Hi Scissor – my too-long Covid-19 post for you that was censored on wattsup is posted here on Brian Peckford’s site and was well-received.
 
We WARNED you over & over and we were always right; Bobby Kennedy jr., McCullough, Malone, Risch, Tenenbaum, Cole, Wolf, I, etc.,we warned you; see short list of some of the things we warned you about | peckford42 (wordpress.com)
 
This is new and also worth reading:
 
THE CLINICAL TRIALS WERE FRAUDULENT THE SPIKED PROTEIN IS KILLING MILLIONS
https://www.bitchute.com/video/gZKjZ5t7YPmq/
Two minute video by Dr. Mike Yeadon – former VP Research at Pfizer.
Millions more will die or be vaxx-injured.
 
THE MORE COVID SHOTS YOU GET, THE MORE LIKELY YOU’LL GET COVID. HERE’S WHY.
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/covid-booster-lowered-immunity-infections-cola/
 
7.7% SEEK MEDICAL CARE AFTER COVID-19 VACCINATION AND 25% HAVE SERIOUS SIDE EFFECTS
BREAKING: ICAN Wins Lawsuit Forcing CDC to Turn Over V-SAFE Covid Vaccine Injury Data – Shows 7.7% Seek Medical Care After Vaccination and 25% Have Serious Side Effects (VIDEO)
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The vaxxed are screwed – we tried to warn them.

Bryan A
Reply to  atticman
October 4, 2022 2:58 pm

We hold these truths to be self evident…
If it isn’t broken, fix it until it is

Boulder Skeptic
Reply to  atticman
October 4, 2022 7:56 pm

“Surely there is someone in the Biden administration with enough sense to shut this craziness down.”

I’ve seen no evidence to date (almost 2 years in) suggesting such a person exists.

And don’t call me Shirley…

Bryan A
Reply to  Boulder Skeptic
October 4, 2022 8:15 pm

There’s no one in the Biden Administration with any sense at all
And don’t call me Shirley
😉

Bryan A
Reply to  Bryan A
October 4, 2022 8:16 pm

Though most of them are flush with Quarters

Rich Davis
Reply to  Bryan A
October 5, 2022 3:44 am

More like duffel bags full of Benjamins

Bryan A
Reply to  Rich Davis
October 5, 2022 6:42 am

Naw … all a bunch of Two Bit politicians
😉

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Strativarius
October 4, 2022 10:07 am

Peter Daszak did his level best to cover-up any inquiry into what went on in Wuhan

Birds of a feather flock together

Frank from NoVA
Reply to  Strativarius
October 4, 2022 11:52 am

According to Tucker Carlson, who ran this last evening, Daszak et al are attempting to find a ‘precursor’ to the C-19 virus in the wild (Thailand?), which would buttress their claim that it did not originate / escape from the Wuhan lab.

mario lento
Reply to  Frank from NoVA
October 4, 2022 12:52 pm

Clarification: regarding “buttressing their claim that it did not originate/escape from the Wuhan lab… ”

No: that was not according to Tucker Carlson, it was according to his guess, Alex Berenson. The quote from Tucker to Alex’s theory was “That is a very interesting theory and that never would have occurred to me”

Frank from NoVA
Reply to  mario lento
October 4, 2022 2:29 pm

Correct, and I think Berenson’s point has merit.

Mario Lento
Reply to  Frank from NoVA
October 4, 2022 2:34 pm

Thx! Agreed. And my typo guess was supposed to be guest! But both words sort of work to get our point across.

Reply to  Frank from NoVA
October 4, 2022 5:01 pm

former nyt writer?
fiction author?

Graemethecat
Reply to  Steven M Mosher
October 5, 2022 12:50 am

The truth or falsity of a statement is completely independent of the nature of the person who asserts it.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Steven M Mosher
October 5, 2022 3:51 am

Wow, five words, no spelling errors and two instances of punctuation to boot. Naturally, no capitalist letterz.

Does anyone care what the content of those sentences was supposed to convey? How can the sane make sense of the ravings of a madman?

roaddog
Reply to  Steven M Mosher
October 5, 2022 5:05 am

Yep. He writes awesome fiction.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Frank from NoVA
October 5, 2022 3:45 am

except they DID claim to find a near perfect match in the poor pangolins in various jungles in asia brought to china as food

roaddog
Reply to  Frank from NoVA
October 5, 2022 5:04 am

Berenson is brilliant. That’s why so many sites have blocked him.

RobR
Reply to  mario lento
October 4, 2022 3:58 pm

This likely a correct assumption. However SARS-2 belongs to a sub-branch of coronavirus’s called surbicoronavirus. To date SARS-2 is the only surbicoronavirus to contain a furin cleavage site.

Serial passage in humanized mice of close relatives to SARS-2 did not result in variants containing an FCS. Additionally, China claims to have sampled thousands of animals and not a single animal has been pegged as a primary or secondary host.

UNC’S Ralph Baric pioneered what he calls the “No-See-Em” technique of creating novel chimeric viruses from several natural viruses. Baric also developed humanized mice containing human lung tissue. Baric sent a seed colony of these mice to shi zhengli (Batwoman) at the WIV.

China and Southeast Asia encompass several thousand square miles The chances of a novel surbicoronavirus emerging on the doorstep of the same lab that was collecting and conducting risky research on surbicoronavirus’s is astronomical.

The same propagandists that attack legitimate questions from climate realists are engaged in a pitched battle to belittle researchers abd quash calls for an open investigation.

Mr. 97% Peter Jacobs is all in and uses guerilla tactics to attack folks with legitimate concerns. If he gets caught out in this one his reputation will be trash.

Reply to  RobR
October 4, 2022 5:36 pm
Rich Davis
Reply to  Steven M Mosher
October 5, 2022 4:00 am

Yeah, now there’s a totally credible source, amirite? No conflict of interest there. It’s the government! Why would they lie?

A curious point—mosh uses capitalist letterz in his name. Could be the narcissism?

Rob Ricket
Reply to  Steven M Mosher
October 5, 2022 5:56 am

Mosh,

The paper you cited does not refute anything I wrote above. The fact remains that, to date not a single surbicoronavirus containing an FCS has been discovered.

Here is the conclusion from the paper you cited:

Furin cleavage sites in spike proteins naturally occurred independently for multiple times in coronaviruses. Such feature of SARS-CoV-2 spike protein is not necessarily a product of manual intervention, though our observation does not rule out the lab-engineered scenario.”

Roj
Reply to  Steven M Mosher
October 6, 2022 3:42 am

‘The authors declare that they have no known competing financial interests or personal relationships that could have appeared to influence the work reported in this paper.’

Apart from their nationality?

mario lento
Reply to  RobR
October 4, 2022 8:18 pm

We were supposed to stop anything like G of F in US.

We continued to fund G of F through laundering and lied about it.

Lots of people are doing lots of things wrt to C-viruses but “they” CDC FDA Fauci and others are suppressing the who and what… lies

The Furin cleavage site which can occur naturally seems like a perfect gain of function to develop in man designed virus designed to make the body’s early response (interferon) not work and then cytokine and so forth. Who did it knows who did it. They are lying about even doing G of F. So we have more lies than truths surrounding this WuHan or wherever released virus.

Me thinks that the jab forced quick mutations in human experiments (everyone who got the jab).

The Furin cleavage site did not make the cut and seems to have disappeared for now.

Do I know a hell of a lot more than that? Nope!

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Sturmudgeon
Reply to  mario lento
October 6, 2022 4:38 pm

How many of those ‘jabbed’ now have fur in their cleavage?

mario lento
Reply to  Sturmudgeon
October 6, 2022 10:35 pm

haha. I told someone at my company, that this has now turned into an endemic disease of the vaccinated. The reaction was priceless.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  RobR
October 5, 2022 3:46 am

hmm I thought they DID get furin cleavage in those mice

RobR
Reply to  ozspeaksup
October 6, 2022 9:23 am

Ozspeaksup, as mentioned, serial passage of close CV19 relatives did not induce adaptations with an FCS.

Reply to  Frank from NoVA
October 4, 2022 5:00 pm

how dare they look for evidence when racial predjudice against the chinese is all you need to prove the case

Gunga Din
Reply to  Steven M Mosher
October 4, 2022 6:15 pm

??

Gregg Eshelman
Reply to  Gunga Din
October 5, 2022 3:26 am

Anyone who dared to point out that SARS-CoV-2 originated in China was called racist.

Reply to  Gregg Eshelman
October 5, 2022 6:51 am

And the ‘Xi’ Variant proves that?
Or not?

The whole WuFlu episode, trashing economies and involving millions of deaths, seems heavily obscured by falsehood.
Anything that shines a light, even obliquely, on it is welcome.
And experimeters, and publishers, and posters, may have an axe to grind.

Auto – deeply concerned about an offered fourth ‘Injected experiment’ in the UK ….

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Frank from NoVA
Reply to  Steven M Mosher
October 4, 2022 8:41 pm

I didn’t realize Fauci and Daszak were Chinese. Live and learn, I guess.

Graemethecat
Reply to  Steven M Mosher
October 5, 2022 12:52 am

Daszak is Chinese now???

Rich Davis
Reply to  Steven M Mosher
October 5, 2022 4:11 am

Funny, I thought Fauci was an Eye-talian name. Who knew he’s a Chinaman? (A reference to St Colin Powell there, don’t get your knickers in a twist). Now we white nationalist ultra-rayciss ultra-MAGAs just gotta hate him more! Thanks for the tip, mosh.

Who’s more deplorable, a turncoat skeptic or an English major who abuses the language? Ah but you’ve got it covered.

Sturmudgeon
Reply to  Steven M Mosher
October 6, 2022 4:42 pm

First … the word is “prejudice”… second… the CCP is the entity to be opposed, NOT the Chinese, per se.

Thomas
October 4, 2022 10:16 am

A word of caution, as far as I know nobody has explicitly said the money is for “gain of function” research …

So why the title of the article?

This is not gain of function research.

EcoHealth Alliance’s five-year experiment will investigate ‘the potential for future bat coronavirus emergence’ in Asia, with scientists set to trawl caves in Myanmar, Laos and Vietnam in the hunt to prevent another viral crisis.

But it does sound a bit dangerous.

jeffery p
Reply to  Thomas
October 4, 2022 10:22 am

I agree, based on the description. But what does it mean to the researchers? Do they have any real restraints?

Pillage Idiot
Reply to  Thomas
October 4, 2022 10:43 am

Your statement, “This is not gain of function research.” is certainly not certain.

IF, they were performing gain of function research, do you think it would be touted in their press releases?

I am just fine having them execute documents that say their lab is subject to random inspections and if they are found to be performing gain of function research, then they go straight to prison for 10 years.

If they do not sign, then no funding.

Doesn’t 100% solve the problem, but my ridiculous solution definitely makes hidden gain of function research far less likely.

Reply to  Pillage Idiot
October 4, 2022 5:38 pm

its not in the proposal,

Eric Vieira
Reply to  Steven M Mosher
October 5, 2022 12:48 am

The problem is, you cannot explicitly name “gain of function research”, or they will engage in discussions about its definition (like Fauci did). One has to phrase the whole proposition so that any “genetic” modifications leading to increased infectivity in humans is covered, with simple phrases where it’s not possible to reshape what the text means. Then: either sign .. or no money. Another good attack would be to write research disclosures (general descriptions) on these things, including vaccines and therapies. Then no one would be able to get patent protection, since the general principle would be known and not considered to be an “invention.” The whole field would then become “uninteresting” for such people and pharma companies.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Steven M Mosher
October 5, 2022 4:23 am

mosh 1941 version:
Dr Goebbels didn’t put anything in the Endlösung proposal about cyanide poisoning. Those dirty Jews just need showers.

186no
Reply to  Thomas
October 4, 2022 10:49 am

“This is not gain of function research.”

How on earth do you know that? As many many others on this blog and numerous others have pointed out, including Dr David Martin whose knowledge of this disaster is very relevant, Daszak was a key partner of the cabal revealed by the Fauci emails who once the comment “…it looks engineered” went into overdrive to deflect, dissemble, obfuscate, deny and cover up what truly had gone on. Was he not part of the attempt to “disguise” the origin of SARS COV2 via The Lancet – correct me if I am wrong.

The original constituents of the chimeric Coronavirus stitched together by Baric of UniCal with help from China were not pathogenic until they had a hitherto non naturally occurring molecular sequence inserted – the furin cleavage element which enhanced the virus to then be able to bind to ( and thus enter ) human ACE2 receptor cells – they certainly conducted experiments to “assess their ability to infect humans” during their US taxpayer funded, Fauci directed, Eco Alliance facilitated experiments; what the hell do you think that involved – flower arranging classes, or a deep dive into mindfulness concepts maybe?

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Reply to  186no
October 4, 2022 5:41 pm

nothing in their proposal is gain of function

  1. they want to do setology on people in contact with bats
  2. they want to sequence viruses found in bats
  3. they want to use modelling to evaluate the danger.

this is data collection and modelling

not science, not gain of function

Graemethecat
Reply to  Steven M Mosher
October 5, 2022 12:54 am

Please, please volunteer for the task of crawling though bat excrement in caves to take samples.

Rob Ricket
Reply to  Steven M Mosher
October 5, 2022 6:38 am

Mosh,

The issues with funding Daszak are manifold:

First, Daszak organized the Lancet letter that essentially shut down discussion of a possible lab leak. Subsequently he was chided by Lancet for failing to declare competing interests. ” Mr. Horton wrote in a Dec. 11 Lancet column, “They argued that the overwhelming majority of scientific opinion supported the view that SARS-CoV-2 ‘originated in wildlife.’ And they signed off their letter, ‘We declare no competing interests.’ But what fast became clear is that one author of that Lancet letter did indeed have an interest to declare, and an incendiary one at that — a direct link to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, including experiments on viral spillover events and recombinant bat coronaviruses.”
The unnamed “author” is clearly Peter Daszak.”

Second, Daszak has a track record of failing to make timely reports as required in grant stipulations to include; lab books from the WIV and tables on increases lab animal mortality rates.

Third, the grant effectively says, Daszak will use his old contacts and lab partners. The dangerous viruses collected from remote locations must be brought to labs located in urban areas for sequencing. Such activities provide several vectors for infection. Additionally, Daszak has no control over what happens after a virus is sequenced to include GOF experiments and potential weaponization.

Fourth, advances in synthetic biology technology have greatly outstripped oversight and regulation of dangerous research. Any entity with a modestly equipped lab can create duplicate viruses from sequence data. In fact, SARS-2 has been duplicated in lab.

SARS-2 has escaped from a lab in Tiawan and there is no conclusive proof that it did or did not leak from a lab in Wuhan. Knock the Sinophobic BS off, millions have died…we need answers.

 

ozspeaksup
Reply to  186no
October 5, 2022 3:51 am

and its very odd that variants of covid are now said to target liver/kidneys when normally it would stop in lungs upper airways
but the vax went full systemwide so….

roaddog
Reply to  186no
October 5, 2022 5:09 am

“I’m doctor.” – Dr. Who, thereby implying that he can be trusted. Surely we know better by now.

Richard Page
Reply to  roaddog
October 5, 2022 12:10 pm

As Dr. Who himself said – “first rule, the doctor lies.”

mario lento
Reply to  Thomas
October 4, 2022 12:55 pm

Why? WHY? Because they performed GoF research in the past, or at least they were paid to do as much and used that language in the past all while denying it.

Eric Vieira
Reply to  Thomas
October 5, 2022 12:36 am

It surely does. They just send people crawling in caves full of bat excrements and wait till someone gets sick. If the sickness is bad enough, or if the person dies, then they have a potential next candidate virus to “improve” on … like RatTG13 on which the Furin cleavage site was “introduced” … There’s no limit to what greed for fame and money can do to people.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Thomas
October 5, 2022 3:48 am

it WILL be GOF as they do that to make it lethal with the excuse they “have to” to then be able to develop vax to counter it
the fact it probably would never happen is ignored

Desert Skeptic
Reply to  Thomas
October 8, 2022 11:16 am

My guess is that they are going to try to create a related virus and release it into bats. Then they can say “look we found a similar virus in bats, therefore the human virus must have come from bats not from a lab leak.”

Fran
October 4, 2022 10:16 am

In the scale of NIAID grants, $650k/5 years is small, as was the earlier grant to Daszak’ lot. I suppose that off-shoring the actual research to China multiplies the amount of work that can be done. However, one does wonder if Daszak has something on Fauci that entails at least a minimal payoff.

AntonyIndia
Reply to  Fran
October 5, 2022 12:45 am

Looks like Xi Jinping knows much more about that ‘extra work” on GoF. The penalty for pleasing a few elite Americans is an endless lockdown on the Chinese masses plus a risky re-selection for that elite Chinese.

jeffery p
October 4, 2022 10:19 am

Our bureaucracy is out of control. The best evidence strongly suggests the virus that causes Covid19 is man-made. Maybe someday the truth will be told.

IMO, Fauci belongs in prison.

alastair gray
Reply to  jeffery p
October 4, 2022 10:34 am

Wasn’t Daszak involved in the WHO whitewash report on the Wuhan lab. No matter what they say you will never convince me that Covid did not leak from the Wuhan lab

Scissor
Reply to  alastair gray
October 4, 2022 10:51 am

Yes, and Prof. Jeffrey Sachs seems to be taking the counter narrative (of caution).

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/backlash-major-covid-origins-report-suggests-virus-could-have/

Pillage Idiot
Reply to  alastair gray
October 4, 2022 10:53 am

Yes Daszak was involved in the “investigation” – and not as a witness!

How much crime would be uncovered, if we put the alleged criminals in charge of the investigations?

Personally, having Daszak involved in the investigation increased my belief that it was a human involved pandemic. Even the leading world health officials are not so stupid as to let the possible perpetrator run the investigation. Unless they WANTED the investigation to be a whitewash.

(I know I sound paranoid, but sometimes the bastards are truly out to get everyone!)

Timo, Not That One
Reply to  alastair gray
October 4, 2022 11:25 am

you will never convince me that Covid did not leak from the Wuhan lab”
I think you could be convinced, as I am, that Covid did not “leak” from the Wuhan lab, but was a deliberate release of a bioweapon.
I think all “gain of function” experimentation should be declared a crime against humanity, and that anybody performing such experimentation is, as Churchill would describe them, “an Enemy of the Human Race”. They should be subject to immediate execution.

Gerald Machnee
Reply to  Timo, Not That One
October 4, 2022 2:47 pm

Obama ordered a ban on gain of function, but Fauci created some companies and got China involved. He has not been brought to justice because the DOJ is full of corrupt people whose only objective now is to chase Trump. The swamp needs draining.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Gerald Machnee
October 5, 2022 4:33 am

Followed by slash and burn, salt the earth, pave over, drop a nuke.

Reply to  alastair gray
October 4, 2022 6:00 pm

ya if you collect bats in a lab, one could get out.

Rich Davis
Reply to  alastair gray
October 5, 2022 4:30 am

Ah but how can you trust a Chinese guy like Peter Daszak? What? But mosh said…

Reply to  jeffery p
October 4, 2022 5:58 pm

a man made mild flu? remind me why this is a problem.

roaddog
Reply to  Steven M Mosher
October 5, 2022 5:12 am

Devout student of history, eh?

roaddog
Reply to  jeffery p
October 5, 2022 5:11 am

I would argue for the appropriateness, and marketability of a televised hanging.

Rhys Jaggar
October 4, 2022 10:29 am

If it’s $650k over 5 years, that’s pretty much 1 fully trained staff member funded full time, plus a budget for consumables/research tools and a spartan travel/accommodation budget. Once you factor in the ‘administration overheads’ etc.

If it’s $650k a year, for five years, that’s a different kettle of fish.

Tom Halla
October 4, 2022 10:39 am

The issue I see is using subcontractors. Why is EcoHealth Alliance involved? NIAH should be more open in it’s contracting.

Derg
Reply to  Tom Halla
October 4, 2022 11:13 am

Contractors is where the money is 😉

Gerald Machnee
Reply to  Tom Halla
October 4, 2022 2:48 pm

They are all controlled by Fauci and his cohorts.

HotScot
October 4, 2022 10:43 am

The Biden administration doesn’t care what the people of America want or need. They have an ideology to fulfil consequently they are deaf to genuine concerns about controversial matters like this.

Having said that, the British CINO (Conservative In Name Only) Government is no better so it’s not a ‘left’ or ‘right’ thing.

There are genuine fears of mounting ‘vaccine’ injuries from a drug which does not conform to normal testing regimes yet the only response from any western government is to shut down debate. Australia has now passed a law to shut doctors up about it.

If governments answered our questions rather than censoring, or allowing us to be censored, there would probably be little division over the subject and this grant would be uncontroversial.

But they have, instead, made every effort to shut down debate. This is the real problem.

Richard Page
Reply to  HotScot
October 4, 2022 2:16 pm

The Biden Executive Order of September 12, 2022 makes for extremely interesting reading in parallel with this news story. The EO explicitly pushes for more advances in biotechnology and bioresearch, maintaining US dominance in this field yet at no point explicitly bans gain of function or genetic research. The only mention of security or a watchdog is to enhance cybersecurity and prevent secrets from getting out; there appears to be zero oversight, control of methods or even investigation of ethical considerations anywhere in it. The language used implies that all organisations will be trusted fully (probably self-regulation) to stick to the rules which, given everything that has happened, appears to be just wishful thinking.

HotScot
Reply to  Richard Page
October 4, 2022 4:33 pm

The problem doesn’t appear to be the POTUS running the country, it’s the deep state none of them can control.

It’s so bad now in the west that our newly appointed PM in the UK will be lucky to make it through the next two weeks.

Independent
October 4, 2022 11:00 am

Yes, they’re reckless and corrupt. And they’ll rub all our faces in it, too, while still enjoying the protection of our despicable bureaucracy and pro-corruption ultra-left party.

G.Strebel
October 4, 2022 11:10 am

Outrageous! Do ‘they’ think the self inflicted destruction of economies around the world will not result in sufficient depopulation, or not quickly enough?

ozspeaksup
Reply to  G.Strebel
October 5, 2022 3:57 am

well its been slower than they hoped but the above average death tolls seem to be rising in most heavy vaxxed places and not elsewhere so theyre probabl;y smiling. adding ohmigod TO the EUA base is how they avoided having to do proper trials not just 8 mice for example.
Im control group and damned pleased I am. sure will NOT be accepting donor blood if I need it I will donate ahead of time

H. D. Hoese
October 4, 2022 11:37 am

I was just in a discussion about “pork-barrel” research, but it needs a better descriptive name. Regardless of the real serious danger here, what started out a seemingly reasonable need for information morphed into a crony-scientific funding system attracting those whose non- scientific motivations, at least eventually, dominated. I recall a warning about dumping money into a field lacking the brain resources attracting those poorly trained. I know some adapted doing their homework, but many did not. Some politicians began to notice, probably not too competently, and sounding fiscally responsible muddied the water so to speak. Given all the other complications like top heavy administration, maybe we should not be surprised since the back-scratching process is not new. It just went beyond knowing that too many both with the ‘itch’ and ‘scratching’ were incompetent and/or corrupt. Maybe we deal too much with metaphors and their relatives also, refining thoughts here necessary.

There is so much interesting in the world, let’s help keep these sharks, no offense to those cartilaginous, not so successful.  https://www.livescience.com/primeval-shark-fossils-china

Lots of what seems to be excessive grant money around for sitting behind these machines.  https://www.wboc.com/news/dsu-awarded-thousands-of-dollars-for-research/article_b6bac81c-4296-11ed-b77e-9b327d9fc876.html

RobR
October 4, 2022 11:37 am

Every word is absolutely accurate. The language of the grant mentions existing ” network” partners. Meaning, these clowns may be importing and conducting GOF research at a lab near you.

Iowa Senator Ernst has introduced legislation that will terminate all grants to EHA due to failing to meet progress report requirements. Additionally, Daszak has failed to produce the lab books used by the WIV for research funded with US dollars.

Please contact your Senator’s and urge them to support Ernst’s bill. At the very least, the money poured into sample collection and experimentation failed to prevent SARS-2. In the worst case, a leak at the WIV has unleashed a scourge on humankind.

Peter Jacobs, Lewandowski and the usual suspects are carpet bombing Twitter with the same ugly rhetoric used on climate skeptics. EHA, has funded a NASA project where Jacobs works as a press agent.

To learn more: see DRASTIC web site and follow: Matt Ridley, Dr. R Embright and Dr. Alina Chan on Twitter.

Graemethecat
Reply to  RobR
October 5, 2022 1:07 am

Matt Tye, a YouTuber who goes under the name Laowhy86 and who reads and speaks Mandarin, has produced some excellent videos on the origin of Covid. Whatever that clown Steven Mosher thinks, there is a veritable ton of evidence for the Wuhan Institute of Virology being the source.

RobR
Reply to  Graemethecat
October 5, 2022 12:26 pm

Thanks. I have previously watched several of his “motorcycle” videos but haven’t seen him report on COVID19.

ASTONERII
October 4, 2022 11:51 am

Could have fired Fauci legitimately in April of 2020 after the CDC released the COVID-19 Alert No. 2, March 24, 2020 which is an admission that the CDC was fraudulently reporting the number of Covid-19 deaths.

ResourceGuy
October 4, 2022 12:15 pm

Hush money

October 4, 2022 12:25 pm

Maybe OJ Simpson could take a break from searching for Nicole Simpson’s murderer and help Daszak search for the origins of the Covid 19 virus.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Hoyt Clagwell
October 5, 2022 4:38 am

Careful! mosh will chide you for your racial hatred of Chinese, er chinese.

RobR
October 4, 2022 12:25 pm

FOIA emails indicate Scripps Scientist Kristian Andersen sent fauci and email noting the unusual properties of the virus. Fauci ordered Sat. midnight conference call with Andersen, Holmes, Lipkin, Farrar from Wellcome Trust.

Wellcome is a non-profit spin-off from GlaxoSmithKline. GSK subsidiary just awarded a billion dollar contract for monoclonal antibodies.

Andersen et al. started drafting the pro-zoonosis paper “The Proximal Origins of COVID19 within days of the meeting.

Subsequently, Andersen received several millions in grant money from NIAID.

Type Andersen’s name in the search function. Fauci paid for Andersen’s paper because of his ties to GOF research at the WIV.

https://reporter.nih.gov/

Sturmudgeon
Reply to  RobR
October 6, 2022 4:56 pm

Thank You.

wayne.conlan
October 4, 2022 12:34 pm

See the following link. RePORT ⟩ RePORTER (nih.gov) Left click to reveal relevant URL. Daszak has received many millions of dollars from NIH, but from reading the summary reports, none of it has anything to do with gain of function studies.

RobR
Reply to  wayne.conlan
October 4, 2022 1:21 pm

Daszak is an intermediary who connected the collection of coronavirus’s with the WIV. The WIV most certainly conducted some GOF experiments in secrecy.

Daszak is responsible for the actions of activities he underwriters. He was late in several required reports and failed to produce the lab books from the WIV. He should not receive one cent more of tax-payer money.

RobR
Reply to  wayne.conlan
October 4, 2022 1:25 pm

Here is a Daszak pitch to DARPA for dangerous GOF research to include chimeric viruses and serial passage through humanized mice.

https://www.lotuseaters.com/darpa-denied-daszak-funding-for-dangerous-covid-research-in-2018-23-09-2021

michael hart
October 4, 2022 12:47 pm

“We cannot expect those who have these concerns to simply take us, the scientific community, at our word that the benefits of this work outweigh the risks, nor can we ignore their calls for greater transparency, their concerns about conflicts of interest, and their efforts to engage in a dialog about whether these experiments should have been performed in the first place.”

He put it in writing here:
file:///C:/Users/micha/Downloads/research-on-highly-pathogenic-h5n1-influenza-virus-the-way-forward.pdf

The “benefits of this work outweigh the risks”. It’s there in black and white.

Dr. Fauci, we are still awaiting the benefits. Meanwhile, you still have a job.

michael hart
Reply to  michael hart
October 4, 2022 12:50 pm

That was my personal download. In case it doesn’t work for anybody, the title of the paper is
“Research on Highly Pathogenic H5N1 Influenza Virus: The Way
Forward”

son of mulder
October 4, 2022 1:56 pm

It is the business of the future to be dangerous. I have no issue with dangerous research as long as appropriate controls are in place. Trouble is these days, can we trust that the researchers are upto understanding what is appropriate medical security to play with the viruses?

Richard Page
Reply to  son of mulder
October 4, 2022 2:20 pm

A brief history of the past three years would appear to give you an answer.

Simonsays
October 4, 2022 2:06 pm

Playing God with viruses will wipe out humanity one day.

We would be better off letting them play with nuclear weapon’s, at least then when the stuff up they only blow up themselves and a few dozen square miles of the neighbourhood.

Nik
October 4, 2022 2:36 pm

Rand Paul will hear another round of vehement, carefully parsed denials, tomorrow.

October 4, 2022 4:15 pm

the money is not for gain of function.

the money is for collecting data

To achieve this, we propose the following: Specific Aim 1) community-based surveys and biological sampling of people frequently exposed to wildlife in Myanmar, Laos, and Vietnam, to find serological evidence of spillover and assess behavioral, social structure, spatial connectivity and mobility factors that lead to exposure, spillover, and spread;

basically blood tests for people who are exposed to critters
survellience

Specific Aim 2) sampling and PCR screening of bats and other wildlife at community surveillance sites to identify viruses and hosts related to the human infections detected in Aim 1;
samlpe bats to see if any bats have viruses found in aim 1.

full genome sequencing and cell entry assays to assess ability to infect human cells;

not gain of function, but needed for it.

machine learning approaches to estimate zoonotic potential of each novel CoV;

note machine learning and NOT serial passage.
serial passage would be part of gain of function. machine learning, is not gain of function
is more like structural micro biology

Specific Aim 3) syndromic PCR-based surveillance in clinics to identify ‘cryptic’ cases or case clusters caused by bat-CoVs; contact tracing to assess whether cases represent initial spillover or community spread events.

observation

Our results will provide detailed information on the risk of future CoV spillover and spread and will inform 24 potential public health interventions to reduce spillover risk and outbreak potential. They may also provide data 25 on wildlife reservoirs and community spillover events of relevance to the origin of COVID-19. Finally, we will 26 rapidly supply viral sequences and isolates for use in vaccine and therapeutic development, including 27 “prototype pathogen” vaccines, via an existing MOU with the NIAID-CREID network. Our long-term goal is that 28 this work will act as a model to

Richard Page
Reply to  Steven M Mosher
October 4, 2022 6:21 pm

So what you’re saying is that the publicly available proposal is to collect samples of as many different bat viruses as possible, analyse them and sequence them all? And the restrictions placed on them that this will never be used for further gain of function or experimentation is where, exactly? What regulatory or oversight framework are they using? Who is then responsible for these samples and data, and what steps have been taken to ensure that it will not be used for purposes other than the publicly stated ones? I’m guessing that there are no answers to these questions and there will likely never be.

Reply to  Steven M Mosher
October 4, 2022 10:06 pm

So, a natural virus found in bats evolved into a virus that spread throughout the human population of the world in a matter of days, yet it still has not yet been found in bats? Who thinks that sounds logical, reasonable, or rational? Sounds to me like they’re looking for a scapegoat more than a bat.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Hoyt Clagwell
October 5, 2022 4:02 am

and 2+yrs on they STILL cant ID anything it “passed through” to get into humans
really?

michael hart
Reply to  ozspeaksup
October 5, 2022 7:33 am

Apparently it was a threesome involving a bat, a pangolin, and seriously maladjusted human.

michael hart
Reply to  Hoyt Clagwell
October 5, 2022 7:28 am

Yup. What I see is an attitude that “in order to protect ourselves from dangerous pathogens we have to experiment with making them”.

No. Having done a PhD involving no small amount of immunology, I attest that this is just not the case. Examining existing viruses provides more than enough work.
The fact that the vaccines to Covid work, errrm…, moderately just shows how inadequately the vaccines are designed. They don’t appear to have advanced their thinking and practices much in the two decades since I studied the topic.

The main advance seems to be that when they thought there really was a very very nasty threat from this virus, they really got their skates on in terms of speeding things up regulatory wise.

Bescrambled
Reply to  Steven M Mosher
October 4, 2022 11:36 pm

The rebuttal is that we can’t trust them. Already they redefined ‘gain of function’ to mean ‘gain of function on human compatible micro organisms’. Then they performed a ‘non gain of function’ modification on a bat virus that made it human compatible…accidentally we hope but maybe it was deliberate. Why would they not use similar sophistry or outright lie on their application? Obviously the controls around what they are doing are somewhere between non-existent and inadequate. Their hubris especially after getting away with creating Covid knows no bounds.

This is next order of magnitude dangerous as they could easily create something much more potent than Covid that could leave survivors incapacitated or wishing they were dead. You can’t ‘uncreate’ this or contain it once it’s out. We are in a dangerous place where we can make whatever modifications we want, but we have a really limited understanding of what it might do, and even less of an understanding of how it might mutate.

Scientists should be terrified of the personal consequences of messing with viruses to the point of being unwilling to perform anything remotely similar to gain of function. Instead, it is next level evil where the people who helped to create the problem in the first place are then lauded as heroes for trying to contain their own problem.

I would expect republicans will run a lot of ads based on this event. “The Biden administration was not satisfied with the level of suffering created by Covid and is funding the same bat virus scientists for an encore in ‘24”

Once we have facilities that don’t orbit the earth, then scientists willing to never return to the planet can screw around and create plagues on themselves without impacting earth.

It’s crazy that people are freaked out by a phantom 1.5 C, but are just accepting of the much worse biological danger here. It is also totally bonkers that rational people are arguing to give these same scientists another shot “they learned their lesson and aren’t doing anything similar. We promise!”. Instead we should be sending them to a crimes against humanity trial.

So obviously we didn’t learn our lesson with having millions of people killed round 1. Hopefully their next ‘whoopsie we would be sorry except this was definitely natural’ will not sterilize the survivors or otherwise confine the human race to perpetual misery.

Derg
Reply to  Bescrambled
October 5, 2022 12:42 am

Great post

Geoff Sherrington
October 4, 2022 4:53 pm

The fast growth of “charity” type bodies, of “not-for-profit” whatever the label is, IMHO, another of the failures of modern society that should be high on the fixit list. The impression that forms in the minds of the people is that the motivation of these bodies is pure and giving, when in reality mostly it is tax minimization while covering up harm to society under a pious pseudonym. Geoff S

JBP
October 4, 2022 5:21 pm

This should not even be a conversation. The USAs federal leviathan must be cut back drastically. DOE, DOJ, DOE, HUD, EPA, SSA, IRS etc, ect, must be reduced in size by 90% and power accordingly.

Gary Pate
October 4, 2022 11:22 pm

What could possibly go wrong???

Richard Page
Reply to  Gary Pate
October 5, 2022 12:13 pm

12 Monkey’s?

garboard
October 5, 2022 12:14 am

it is claimed that the emergence of lyme disease in lyme connecticut a few miles from a top secret military bio lab on nearby plum island is just a coincidence

Matt Kiro
October 5, 2022 3:26 am

From Emerald Robinson’s substance:

What’s so perverse about this grant is that it comes a few days before Congress started debating a ban on funding EcoHealth Alliance at all.

In fact, Senator Ernst (R-IA) just introduced the bill and told the Daily Caller: “Giving taxpayer money to EcoHealth to study pandemic prevention is like paying a suspected arsonist to conduct fire safety inspections. NIH got it right when it canceled the funding for the experiments EcoHealth Alliance was conducting with China’s state-run Wuhan Institute. In addition to violating multiple federal laws, EcoHealth has still not turned over documents about these dangerous studies that NIH has requested on multiple occasions that could offer vital clues to the origins of the COVID-19 pandemic.”

That’s right: EcoHealth Alliance has violated multiple federal laws (according to Senator Ernest) and it still got government funding.”

The rest of her post has even more details. The government shouldn’t be handing out money for all of this stuff. It’s insane!

ozspeaksup
October 5, 2022 3:42 am

from a ZH item on it it listed 4? asian nations and yes it was GOF on batvirus
as if we dont have enough naturally
and then the fearmongering over a discovered in 60s virus thats NEVER got out of source animals being raised to scare by sciencealert the other day as well as DM etc touted as new high risk in headers

2hotel9
October 5, 2022 3:51 am

Gain of function research is biological warfare research. Peter Daszak is an evil [snip].

Language… -mod

roaddog
October 5, 2022 5:02 am

Fauci and Biden are competing to see who can exterminate humanity first.

roaddog
Reply to  roaddog
October 5, 2022 5:23 am

And both of them are clearly insane.

jeff corbin
October 5, 2022 7:15 am

Researching Crispr Cas 9 technology in 2018 and 2019 out of sheer curiosity, I found the papers on SARS-CoV using Crispr Cas 9, which I cannot find now. I was aware of the earlier short lived SARS coronavirus outbreaks in 2006 and MERS in 2013 (not sure of the dates) but completely unaware that Crispr Cas 9 was being applied to viral research It seemed like a good thing. Research toward vaccine development for potential deadly pandemics is a good thing right?! My concern in 2018, was how cheap an easy it would be to use Crispr Cas 9 technology to design and/or redesign any living organism gnomically especially if a lab is already established… especially viruses. As a social worker, at that time, ethics was my chief concern, not bio-safety.

My point here is how relatively cheap and easy Crispr Cas 9 tech is and how it can be done in any lab or basement. A grant of less than a million bucks doesn’t seem like much but it is…it keeps salaries paid and the lights on cause the tech is not expensive.

In the right, (wrong) hands, gain of functioning work can be done anywhere. This is the reason the world needs to be alarmed and new laws and enforcement carefully considered.

See article from Standford on Crispr Cas 9 from 2018

“Older gene-editing tools use proteins instead of RNA to target damaged genes. But it can take months to design a single, customized protein at a cost of more than $1,000. With CRISPR, scientists can create a short RNA template in just a few days using free software and a DNA starter kit that costs $65 plus shipping”

https://stanmed.stanford.edu/crispr-for-gene-editing-is-revolutionary-but-it-comes-with-risks/

Andy Pattullo
October 5, 2022 3:57 pm

If this is what they did, the only explanation would be either total brain dead stupidity, or a deliberate intent to cause significant harm to human society. If the latter, then who are these leaders really working for?

jeff corbin
Reply to  Andy Pattullo
October 6, 2022 6:47 am

The new Crispr CAS 9 Tech enabled the development of vaccines for SARS CoV…. both the vaccine itself and a stable SARS CoV to test it. So this is an entirely new industry since 2016. As we have seen, one SARS outbreak resulted an instant global market for the vaccines and giant profits.

jeff corbin
Reply to  jeff corbin
October 6, 2022 6:56 am

We are talking 50 billion in pre-tax profit in 18 months. This doesn’t include all the associated distribution and healthcare economies nor the profit from boosters and new vaccines.

jeff corbin
Reply to  jeff corbin
October 6, 2022 9:02 am

Since the 2006 short lived SARs epidemic, there have been 6 major pandemic films from 2009-2019, four of them since 2016. We are talking New Industry and Big money!! So that’s Entertainment!

Sturmudgeon
October 6, 2022 4:15 pm

which is still ran by Dr Anthony Fauci.” “which is still RUN by…”

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