New Zealand PM Jacinda Ardern. By Newzild - Own work, CC BY-SA 4.0, link

New Zealand PM UN Address Calls for Global Censorship of Climate Skeptics

Essay by Eric Worrall

First Published on JoNova; “… How do you tackle climate change if people do not believe it exists? …”. Apparently if you are a climate skeptic you are somehow similar to a terrorist radical who promotes mass murder, and part of an effort to “… cause chaos and reduce the ability of others to defend themselves …”.

The lessons of COVID are in many ways the same as the lessons of climate change.

When crisis is upon us, we cannot and will not solve these issues on our own.

The next pandemic will not be prevented by one country’s efforts but by all of ours. Climate action will only ever be as successful as the least committed country, as they pull down the ambition of the collective.

I am not suggesting though that we rely on the goodwill of others to make progress. 

We need a dual strategy. One where we push for collective effort but we also use our multilateral tools to make progress.

That’s why on pandemic preparedness we support efforts to develop a new global health legal instrument, strengthened international health regulations and a strong and empowered World Health Organization.

On March 15, 2019, New Zealand experienced a horrific terrorist attack on its Muslim community. 

More than 50 people were killed as they prayed. The attack was live-streamed on a popular social media platform in an effort to gain notoriety, and to spread hate.

At that time, the ability to thwart those goals was limited. And the chances of Government alone being able to resolve this gap was equally challenging. 

That’s why, alongside President Emmanuel Macron, we created the Christchurch Call to Action.

The Call community has worked together to address terrorism and violent extremist content online. As this important work progresses, we have demonstrated the impact we can have by working together collaboratively.

This week we launched an initiative alongside companies and non-profits to help improve research and understanding of how a person’s online experiences are curated by automated processes. This will also be important in understanding more about mis and disinformation online. A challenge that we must as leaders address.

As leaders, we are rightly concerned that even those most light-touch approaches to disinformation could be misinterpreted as being hostile to the values of free speech we value so highly.

But while I cannot tell you today what the answer is to this challenge, I can say with complete certainty that we cannot ignore it. To do so poses an equal threat to the norms we all value.

After all, how do you successfully end a war if people are led to believe the reason for its existence is not only legal but noble? How do you tackle climate change if people do not believe it exists? How do you ensure the human rights of others are upheld, when they are subjected to hateful and dangerous rhetoric and ideology?

The weapons may be different but the goals of those who perpetuate them are often the same. To cause chaos and reduce the ability of others to defend themselves. To disband communities. To collapse the collective strength of countries who work together.

But we have an opportunity here to ensure that these particular weapons of war do not become an established part of warfare.

Read more: https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/09/full-speech-jacinda-ardern-addresses-un-general-assembly.html

Video of Prime Minister Ardern’s speech;

Ardern claims she wants to help people defend themselves, but she has done very little to prevent another massacre like the Christchurch Muslim massacre of 2019, which New Zealand Prime Minister Ardern cites as her justification for her proposed crackdown on free speech and climate skepticism.

Ardern, who was elected Prime Minister in 2017, two years before the massacre, has maintained and strengthened New Zealand’s strict gun laws, laws which left the law abiding victims of the 2019 massacre disarmed and helpless to defend themselves against an armed madman. It took New Zealand police 18 minutes from the first emergency call to locate and apprehend the murderer, as he was driving to his third mosque.

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Alexy Scherbakoff
September 30, 2022 2:09 pm

It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who
were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers-out of unorthodoxy. George Orwell, 1984.

Stephen Wilde
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
September 30, 2022 2:37 pm

There was a time when it was suggested that a world run by women would be better.
The proposition has not survived the opening of politics to women.

Bryan A
Reply to  Stephen Wilde
September 30, 2022 4:24 pm

She should give much thought to her proposals…what happens when Conservatives gain control and pass censorship rules against liberal thoughts and actions and speech.

Rxc
Reply to  Bryan A
September 30, 2022 5:37 pm

That will not be permitted to happen.

M E Emberson
Reply to  Bryan A
September 30, 2022 9:27 pm

Conservatives in NZ ( National Party mainly) are not that kind. Maybe in other countries though. Our PM has given this speech before ,why not so much comment then?

rho
Reply to  M E Emberson
September 30, 2022 11:59 pm

Maybe because it is now being reported beyond NZ. Wasn’t she re-elected sometime in the past couple of years?

Graham
Reply to  Bryan A
October 1, 2022 1:08 am

The polls are going against Ardern with the Greens and Maori party that make up our government .
The National Party are conservatives will have to work hard towards showing the country that they can be a better government than Arderns band
.Ardern is doing what most other governments are doing around the world,that
is riding this climate change threat for all they can to keep them selves in power.
She sees realists here at WUWT as a challenge and a threat as the science certainly is not settled .
Any action taken by our country will have no effect on world weather and for that matter I doubt that all of the collective action by all nations reducing emissions will have any detectable effect on the wolds climate.,as if any government could ever control the weather .
Ardern is a socialist and was elected president of the International Union of Young Socialists in 2008.
I predict that she will move to the UN when the New Zealand voter vote her government out ,following Helen Clark a former Prime Minister who served at the UN and stood unsuccessfully for the Secretary Generals position .
It is all about socialism, moving the world away from free market to world wide control eventually by the unelected Bureaucrats of the UN .

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Stephen Wilde
September 30, 2022 6:35 pm

Wasn’t the phrase “a kinder, gentler world?”

Gary Pearse
Reply to  Stephen Wilde
September 30, 2022 10:30 pm

Before Women’s Lib there were women politicians who had to truly compete with men in the profession and they performed well – Golda Meir, Margaret Thatcher, Indira Gandhi … When the ‘movement’ branded women as victims, it engendered a streak of vitriol in a lot of them.

Geoff Sherrington
Reply to  Gary Pearse
September 30, 2022 11:48 pm

Stephen Wilde,
Quite so. It was (and is) hard to think of females as victims, when there is example after example of malicious female – but non-feminine – ways that affect some divorce settlements, some with the aid of bias from courts whose officers have swallowed the victim classification. Geoff S
(No, my wife and I are shortly to celebrate Anniversary 60 of our only marriages. She is of like mind about this victimhood thing).

rho
Reply to  Geoff Sherrington
October 1, 2022 12:00 am

Congratulations.

Gary Pearse
Reply to  Geoff Sherrington
October 2, 2022 2:24 pm

Congratulations, indeed! I had a bit of the malicious stuff you mention.

Now we have a dozen genders with chips on their shoulders who were taught that all males are toxic by definition.

rho
Reply to  Stephen Wilde
September 30, 2022 11:58 pm

Anyone who has ever been the victim of a HS mean-girls clique knew better – didn’t need women in politics to learn that particular lesson.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Stephen Wilde
October 1, 2022 3:39 am

possibly as the women who DO get to power have had to act n think like the blokes to get there?

PCman999
Reply to  ozspeaksup
October 1, 2022 7:49 am

But they don’t act and think like the blokes who get there – they act much worse in order to break through. Think high school mean girls cliques that some else brought up. But hey, look at the awesome success of Giorgia Meloni in Italy, listening to her was a breath of fresh air – especially in the original Italian! I pity the poor socialist and communist blokes that stand in her way.

Forza Italia!

Rich Davis
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
September 30, 2022 2:40 pm
Joe Gordon
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
October 1, 2022 12:42 am

I don’t know, Boris Symonds, John Kerry and Al Gore have done quite a bit of damage themselves.

It’s religion that’s the problem. Young people today think religion is all about some god in an ancient book, and reading is barely taught in the schools these days. But religion doesn’t necessarily require a church or some sort of bible.

All it requires is faith and a pulpit, and the schools don’t even bother with science any more – teachers are just preachers with federal funding these days.

So Ardern, just like all the political faith-healers before her, is simply preaching out there, just like Reverend Al and Carrie’s hubby. Female parts are not a requirement for a hyperactive religion gene.

PCman999
Reply to  Joe Gordon
October 1, 2022 7:52 am

Lack of real religion is the problem, loss of faith and the grace that comes with it, along with the lack of basic morals has lead people to fill the void with false prophets and fake causes.

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  PCman999
October 1, 2022 1:42 pm

Yeah, I don’t know about that. Loss of morals, manners, and good will, etc. are certainly issues, but the idea that such things are only gained through organized religion is not the case.

Breakdown of family is probably a much bigger source of such problems than a lack of organized religion. After all, religious fanaticism is the source of much of the worst of humanity’s ugliness. When dogma is substituted for reason, bad outcomes often exceed good ones.

The ‘climate’ crap is essentially a secular religion, and we are seeing where that leads..

Rich Davis
Reply to  AGW is Not Science
October 2, 2022 8:21 am

Whether you think that God is real and imparts grace or you believe that gods are all myths and moral codes were invented by men to control the population, it seems that you understand that the loss of a common understanding of morality has led to chaos.

What has led to the breakdown of family? Admittedly, rigid moral codes are difficult to honor and have always led to hypocrisy. But a society with some hypocrites is clearly (at least in my view) superior to the current state of affairs where there seems to be a competition to see who can most thoroughly personify the repudiation of traditional morality.

Hypocrisy is the compliment that vice pays to virtue.

A world where nobody has a disincentive to walk away from marriage is a world filled with broken families. It is a rare marriage that never faces a time of crisis. Without societal disapproval of divorce, few people are prepared to make sacrifices necessary to save a marriage. When government policy makes it easy for a woman to have children outside of marriage, should we be surprised to see a decline of stable two-parent families?

Bill Powers
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
October 2, 2022 12:08 pm

Women as a whole, gender wise, are emotional creatures not logical ones. This is why they are easy to manipulate and make bad managers and bureaucrats. As their primary biological roll is reproducing and nurturing that is a good thing.

Now I understand that enrages the 21st century BORG Drone public school student. For all the emotional women out there, including the biological boys, they should know that I along with most men realize that a percentage of women are not like their majority gender. These women are intelligent, logical and non-emotional. They make for good leaders.

On the flip side there is a growing percentage of the male population that think like most women because they have been taught by women and brainwashed into this new nonsensical oxymoronic left wing fabrication called “Emotional Intelligence.” Any reasoning individual regardless of sex understands that emotions clog the logic centers of the brain, therefore rendering the concept of emotional intelligence to be preposterous. Emotions lead to horrible decision making.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Bill Powers
October 2, 2022 1:00 pm

Bill,
Emotional intelligence is not about using emotions to make decisions instead of facts and logic. It is about understanding how other people are likely to react emotionally, so that you are effective in communication with them. It is about understanding how their communication with you may be obscured by their emotions. In a leadership context it is also about harnessing emotions to achieve goals or at least avoiding the outcome of having your objectives thwarted by emotional appeals.

In general I agree that women are biologically predisposed to nurture and men are predisposed to action. As you said, it doesn’t mean all women or all men. It’s not at all obvious to me that an effective business should avoid taking emotion into account. Just as a family works best with a mother and a father, a business probably works best with an appropriate balance. A business is more like an army than a family, though. It’s a different balance.

Jacek Marchel
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
October 3, 2022 5:34 am

I will take Margaret Thatcher over Bill Clinton any time of the day,

John the Econ
September 30, 2022 2:12 pm

Science so solid and settled, that any questioning of it must be outlawed. Remind me again just who the fascists are in this scenario.

Rud Istvan
Reply to  John the Econ
September 30, 2022 2:55 pm

This is but one way we know that they know they are losing.
Failed past predictions.
Failed climate models.
Ruinable renewables.

Lark
Reply to  John the Econ
September 30, 2022 9:52 pm

If their Science was truthful, they wouldn’t need to enforce it.
If they didn’t need to enforce it, how would they enjoy it?

Bryan A
September 30, 2022 2:13 pm

If Climate Realism were as wrong as Flat Earth (apologies to those few proud flat-earthers out there) then it wouldn’t stand but for a fringe group (like flat earth) and Climate EcoFascists would have no worries. (After all they’re not banning or fighting or even concerned at all about flat earthers spreading falsehoods on the net).
The problem is that Climate Catastrophism is As Wrong as Flat Earth (maybe even more wrong) and WILL do far more harm than good for society. And Climate Realists are a far larger portion of society…

Jeff L
Reply to  Bryan A
September 30, 2022 6:18 pm

Climate Catastrophism ideology has already done way more harm to people and society than any changes in the climate will ever do.

The pessimism in our youth & their life choices based on the mis-information of “climate change” is doing more harm to society than climate change will ever do.
Regardless of anyones thoughts on the subject, there is zero recognition amongst believer of CAGW in the resilience and ingenuity of humanity to deal with any problem thrown at it.

H.R.
Reply to  Bryan A
September 30, 2022 6:26 pm

Flat Earth? Spherical Earth? The Science™ is settled. They are both wrong.

It’s Möbius Earth.

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rho
Reply to  Bryan A
October 1, 2022 12:02 am

Flat Earthers cost us no money and aren’t trying to dominate the political sphere. Wholesome eccentrics, Climatistas are anything but.

MarkW
Reply to  rho
October 1, 2022 8:58 am

Out of curiosity, I visited a flat earth web site once. They seemed to me, to be a bunch of dudes mostly interested in finding a good excuse to party.

Iain Reid
Reply to  Bryan A
October 1, 2022 12:11 am

Bryan,

using ‘flat earth’ as an example overlooks that the belief the earth was flat was the consensus opinion at the time.

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Redge
Reply to  Iain Reid
October 1, 2022 4:49 am

We’ve known the earth was round since at least 300BC

How else would eclipses of the moon show segments shaped as we see them? As it is, the shapes which the moon itself each month shows are of every kind straight, gibbous, and concave-but in eclipses the outline is always curved: and, since it is the interposition of the earth that makes the eclipse, the form of this line will be caused by the form of the earth’s surface, which is therefore spherical. Again, our observations of the stars make it evident, not only that the earth is circular, but also that it is a circle of no great size.

~Aristotle: On the Heavens

The Flat Earth Society are, well, flat-earthers

MarkW
Reply to  Redge
October 1, 2022 8:59 am

That it was known, is beyond dispute. The question is, what percentage of the population was aware of this knowledge?

Ozonebust
September 30, 2022 2:32 pm

If you want to know what a black hole on earth looks like, look no further than this pm.

A vacuus vessel where only the teachings of others echoes within. An echo chamber, devoid of the responsibilities of what she was elected for, and act in their best interests.

What, why and how did we allow the weakest of our society rule over us, whose obedience is to an offshore unlected group of has-beens.

Bill capron
Reply to  Ozonebust
September 30, 2022 5:56 pm

Jacinda is the Ellsworth Toohey [Fountainhead] of our time, and AOC is her acolyte … airheads unite! Go Brandon!

Edward Katz
September 30, 2022 2:34 pm

If you want a controversial and unproven argument from being debated, the best way is to declare it unconstitutional or racist, or anti-democratic, etc. If that’s able to be done, then it’s more likely to be accepted as a proven fact; otherwise, the odds are against it. That’s what we’re seeing in the climate debate; but when we examine the actions of governments, businesses, industries, and consumers, we find they aren’t about to change their operations or lifestyles to go along with the argument in the first place. That’s why fossil fuel use stays steady, while Green technologies continue to bring up the rear.

Stephen Wilde
September 30, 2022 2:34 pm

She keeps mentioning ‘the collective’ which
suggests she has no concept of individual freedom. The history of civilisation is the recognition and protection of the latter.

Duker
Reply to  Stephen Wilde
September 30, 2022 3:27 pm

No it isnt. ‘Freedom’ for the 13 colonies , didnt cover women or black people.
censorship laws were still enacted in US in 1996

And the surrender at Yorktown was achieved after a Kingdom of France fleet under Comte de Grasse beat the British fleet off Chesapeake Capes

Your bumper sticker view of civilisation is flat out wrong

MarkW
Reply to  Duker
September 30, 2022 4:55 pm

1) Stephen didn’t say anything about the US.
2) Women didn’t have the vote, but they had all the other freedoms.
3) Every nation in the world at the time allowed slavery.
4) I can’t think of anyone who specializes in bumper sticker versions of reality in general than you do.

Joel Snider
Reply to  MarkW
September 30, 2022 5:24 pm

He spews the hate he’s been taught. Some people really embrace that kind of thing. It’s the same in every generation. Today they’re called ‘progressives’.

MarkW
Reply to  MarkW
October 1, 2022 4:39 pm

The treatment of women by society, in the US was not significantly different from how women were treated in most other countries at that time.

John R T
Reply to  Duker
September 30, 2022 10:57 pm

in re Yorktown,
Guinea (Gloucester, VA) folk prevented UK troops’ rescue of Cornwallis’ force.

THOMAS ENGLERT
Reply to  Duker
October 2, 2022 6:26 pm

Bill Clinton was the President in 1996.

Bryan A
Reply to  Stephen Wilde
September 30, 2022 4:27 pm

We and the BORG DEMS you will be assimilated or eliminated, resistance is futile

leowaj
Reply to  Stephen Wilde
September 30, 2022 5:43 pm

Yes, it’s always the “we” and “us” and “together” and “collective” and “all of us”. A politician cannot help but think of the population as a collective. She may have believed at one time that she was merely a humble citizen fighting to do what’s right by getting elected. But as soon as she got elected, she instantly changed her view– it became “me” and “them”, where “me” is her glorious, perfected vision of the ideal world and “them”/”collective” is the willing knee-bending populace who will be compelled to bring that vision about. It is pompous and dangerous, and Witch Ardern’s words are dripping with it.

markl
September 30, 2022 2:34 pm

No one is safe from the opinion police. NZ was an early beachhead for Agenda 21 and may completely fall to the Marxists …. if it hasn’t already.

Steve Case
September 30, 2022 2:36 pm

My search for the text of her speech came up empty.

Pillage Idiot
Reply to  Steve Case
September 30, 2022 2:59 pm

Once you have the actual text of her speech in hand, a search for rational, coherent thought will also come up empty.

Steve Case
Reply to  Pillage Idiot
September 30, 2022 5:54 pm

It was full of a lot of empty platitudes.

John R T
Reply to  Pillage Idiot
September 30, 2022 11:06 pm

Look for Giorgia Meloni’s campaign speech: faith, family, and freedom – Motherhood, defending the hearth.

Duker
Reply to  Steve Case
September 30, 2022 3:28 pm
Steve Case
Reply to  Duker
September 30, 2022 3:35 pm

Thanks,

Duker
Reply to  Duker
September 30, 2022 3:38 pm

leaves off the last part of her speech – which undermines the claim of ‘censorship’

But we have an opportunity here to ensure that these particular weapons of war do not become an established part of warfare.

And so, we once again come back to the primary tool we have. Diplomacy, dialogue, working together on solutions that do not undermine human rights, but enhance them.

But is very generalistic
diplomacy
dialogue
working together

Its all out of the Ardern style of speeches

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rho
Reply to  Duker
October 1, 2022 12:07 am

Depends on how you define “human rights”. Given the earlier part of her speech, I suspect that “freedom from misinformation” is considered a human right by her and her ilk.

Redge
Reply to  Duker
October 1, 2022 4:53 am

Ever read “The Rise and the Fall of the Third Reich” by William Shirer

Come back to us when you have and repeat your comment

AWG
September 30, 2022 2:43 pm

Interesting that they point to the Plandemic as their shining example, when their censorship and totalitarian impulses killed millions and destroyed trillions in wealth. Even to this day, their mRNA “vaccines” have killed and maimed more people than the C19 legitimately did.

Dozens of studies over the decades and several court cases revealed masks don’t stop viruses – so they criminalized not wearing a useless mask in public.

Many studies in the past decade demonstrated that “social distancing” is not effective to slow the spread of viruses – so they criminalized businesses for not enforcing strict distancing ordinances. Throwing people in jail and chaining up their stores for daring to cut hair or allow someone to work out.

Several prominent studies concluded that “lock downs” were absolutely, positively the worst thing that a government could do in the quest to mitigate a pandemic. So they brutally enforced a deadly lock-down policy, killing hundreds of thousands, destroying millions of jobs and costing trillions of dollars and maintaining a lingering legacy of supply-chain and economic depression and inflation.

We have known for generations that reduced stress, ample sleep, good nutrition, exercise and exposure to sun (vitamin D), like laughter is the best medicine. So they amped up the stress, anxiety, fear and panic 24/365. Banished going outside, closed gyms and had us eating processed foods and excessive binge drinking.

Then they pronounced a “Vaccine” as a cure-all that ended up ratcheting up unexplained deaths in the working age community to something well beyond war time levels.

At each step of the way, people of all levels of expertise and knowledge were punished, jailed, fired and ostracized for the temerity of speaking truth about age old known concepts in the face of tyrannical governments that only promoted policies that caused stress, fear, terror, sickness and death.

Climate Change is that same level of hate filled malevolence that needs to be denounced at every opportunity.

Scissor
Reply to  AWG
September 30, 2022 2:53 pm

First the CDC said that myocarditis as a side effect was very rare. Then they said is was mild and transitory. Now almost 20% of myocarditis cases do not resolve within 90 days.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanchi/article/PIIS2352-4642(22)00244-9/fulltext#gr3

Duker
Reply to  Scissor
September 30, 2022 3:35 pm

Myocarditis isnt ‘a side effect’, its long been a deadly infection caused/linked to many viruses and bacteria.
Covid is just another such virus and theres a 1 per 100 mill risk from the vaccine itself

Scissor
Reply to  Duker
September 30, 2022 3:54 pm

It’s actually dependent on age, sex, jab # and other factors and is much higher than 1 per 100 million.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2788346

b.nice
Reply to  Duker
September 30, 2022 6:09 pm

Its caused by the spike protein that the vaxxines jabs introduce directly into the blood system.

Covid itself, doesn’t do that.

ATheoK
Reply to  Duker
September 30, 2022 6:48 pm

Incorrect!

Myocarditis as caused by COVID-19 vaccines or boosters are not caused by viruses or known infectious causes.

This fact known in multiple countries!

Even in the countries that demanded doctors to only report anaphylaxis responses to COVID-19 vaccines and boosters.

Duker
Reply to  ATheoK
September 30, 2022 10:38 pm

Pvery few would have died over a longer period before Covid vaccines were even thought of.
https://academic.oup.com/aje/article/165/5/570/67614

b.nice
Reply to  Duker
October 1, 2022 6:13 am

Yep, very few deaths from myocarditis before the Covid Vaxxines. !

Keep those boosters up to schedule…

… and hope you are not one of the unlucky ones.

niceguy
Reply to  ATheoK
October 3, 2022 8:18 pm

They start with a “theory” (an axiom actually) and then interpret everything according to it. And then after excluding anything that doesn’t fit (must be an error, must be a coincidence, etc.) they find the “theory” confirmed.
(Like they did for hep B vax/MS.)

Otway warrior
Reply to  Duker
October 2, 2022 12:29 pm

Well I have a sister in law and a co worker with the issue…whats the chances?

Duker
Reply to  AWG
September 30, 2022 3:31 pm

All your claims about vaccines are false

NZ is a good example where they achieved was it around 93% vaccination rate of people over 18.

The country even now is still below the by month expected deaths compared to pre covid years. Clarly the vaccination isnt killing people but saving lives – although those that havent been vaccinated at all have much higher death and sickness rates from covid than those vaccinated

Simonsays
Reply to  Duker
September 30, 2022 4:15 pm

If you are going to make grandiose claims, you really need to back it up with some credible evidence. I find it hard to believe that the whole NZ death rate is better off than before covid. Jacinta will be up for Sainthood (again).

Joel Snider
Reply to  Duker
September 30, 2022 5:26 pm

Boy, you’re just a bowel-infection’s worth of pure propaganda.

Smart Rock
Reply to  Duker
September 30, 2022 6:31 pm

Duker – my GP has been saying similar things about the mRNA vaccines. I asked him to show me an actual study with real data and real numbers to support his assertion. So far he hasn’t come up with one. I think he’s beginning to doubt the “consensus”.

Duker
Reply to  Smart Rock
September 30, 2022 10:40 pm

Oh, so you have been doing your own research.

BTW what subject is your research degree in ?

Ozonebust
Reply to  Duker
September 30, 2022 8:42 pm

Duker
You don’t know enough, to know that you don’t know enough.
Read my above comment about a vacuus entity. Your compulsion to accept wrong data and conclusion’s is worthy of a scientific research project on gullibility.
Get well soon.

M E Emberson
Reply to  Ozonebust
September 30, 2022 9:44 pm

Rubbish. Just check the information for yourselves. You give climate scepticism a bad name with lack of ability to research. Well goodbye.

M E Emberson
Reply to  Duker
September 30, 2022 9:41 pm

This is quite true. Information can be found on the Ministry of Health site.
https://www.health.govt.nz/ It has been a difficult time but we no longer wear masks except when visiting medical facilities. No social distancing. Visitors from overseas. Look it up online. !

Jtom
Reply to  M E Emberson
October 1, 2022 12:52 pm

All I can find pertinent to this subject on your link is, “Public Health Agency Deputy Director-General Dr Andrew Old says thanks to lower levels of community transmission early in the pandemic and high vaccination rates, New Zealand has had a lower rate of deaths from COVID-19 since the start of the pandemic compared to many countries.”

That pretty much says some other countries did worse. Sweden can say the same thing and they took no Covid precautions. But worse, while fewer people were officially dying of Covid than in other countries, the number of all mortalities went up substantially.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Duker
October 1, 2022 3:47 am

funny? se4ems that the vaxxed are catching more covid re runs and any other bug going
even the msm in Aus are admitting it now

Jtom
Reply to  Duker
October 1, 2022 12:43 pm

September 10 2022

“New Zealand is experiencing higher mortality this year. Even with the late arrival of the COVID fatalities in NZ, COVID-19 fatalities don’t make up the difference between the expected mortality versus the actual deaths.
Below is the mortality rate from all causes which has averaged 22% above average for the same time of year from the 2015-2019 average.”

https://planetb-media.com/new-zealand-excess-mortality-compared-to-covid-19-deaths/

22% above average. Wow. That’s some ‘improvement’ of the mortality rate.

Simon
Reply to  AWG
September 30, 2022 5:42 pm

Even to this day, their mRNA “vaccines” have killed and maimed more people than the C19 legitimately did.”
Any evidence for that crock of bull shite?

b.nice
Reply to  Simon
September 30, 2022 6:10 pm

More evidence than you have ever produced for anything..

Simon
Reply to  b.nice
September 30, 2022 7:39 pm

Well sunshine let ‘s see it? I will wait in anticipation.

b.nice
Reply to  Simon
October 1, 2022 6:17 am

Been waiting for your evidence for ages.. still nada.. zip. !

Retired_Engineer_Jim
Reply to  b.nice
September 30, 2022 10:01 pm

Than cite it, rather than asserting that it exists.

ATheoK
Reply to  Simon
September 30, 2022 6:49 pm

It’s called VAERS in the states.
Use it, silly!

Simon
Reply to  ATheoK
September 30, 2022 7:47 pm

I have and there is no way it agrees with the statement “Even to this day, their mRNA “vaccines” have killed and maimed more people than the C19 legitimately did.” It is complete and total hogwash. Why do people here seem to have no filter for logic or truth.
Deaths from the vaccine are very rare here in NZ. We had a person die recently here from the vaccine and there was a huge enquiry. All over the news it was. We have had nearly 3000 deaths from the virus and a disproportionate number of them were the unvaccinated. Fact…The vaccines save way more lives than they take. If you want to have the best odds of surviving the pandemic … get vaccinated. Don’t believe the mumbo jumbo you hear from the quacks.
NZ has a very high vaccination rate. It is no coincidence that our deaths per million are less than 20% of the US’s. They had an incompetent president who did almost nothing because he was scared it would cost him the election(what an irony) and our prime minster listened to the medical experts and acted promptly. We saw the difference between a leader and an egotist.

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James Schrumpf
Reply to  Simon
October 1, 2022 8:08 am

We had a president who was responsible for the existence of the vaccines in such a short time in the first place. He encouraged people to be vaccinated, but we Americans are a stubborn lot, and our eyes are open. We heard our politicians say to wear masks and practice social distancing, and then saw them at private parties and functions, unmasked and crowded together.

Just like they do for the “climate emergency”, where they ignore the advice they insist the rest of us follow.

Simon
Reply to  James Schrumpf
October 1, 2022 9:56 pm

We had a president who was responsible for the existence of the vaccines” You did and it was a good thing he did getting them through so quickly. Saved a lot of lives.

AWG
Reply to  Simon
September 30, 2022 6:49 pm

I would invite you to look at the VAERS database. Then look at the Israeli studies. Then ask yourself why several European nations have banned the mRNA Clot Shots on working age people and others banned it completely from children.

The CDC is utterly corrupt and such if a person died of a mRNA complication within a two week period of being injected, the death was not associated with the shot. Dittos if a person died anytime before their second of two shot course – they were not considered to be “vaccinated” and thus the death would, like motorcycle deaths, drug over-doses and suicide, would be labeled “CoVID-19” related death.

I suspect you completely accept the talisman claims of the mRNA injections as being down-right miraculous when the Establishment is destroying the lives of anyone who dares challenge the narrative. Why would this be happening if the evidence against the mRNA injections aren’t so damning?

Furthermore, there is increasing evidence of miscarriages and infertility induced by the mRNA injections that were irresponsibly forced upon pregnant women. A large life insurance company was talking about a greater than 500 year event of people dropping dead from SADS and whatever euphemism they are deploying to cover up the death and carnage caused by the Clot Shots.

Though this is anecdotal, I know far more people who have died from SADS than who have from CoViD-19. There are many people who also can make this claim. The vast majority of deaths from CoViD-19 have been the elderly with a large number of co-morbidities, where the average age of death from C19 is 83 while the average life expectancy is 82 – most of these deaths occurred because of gross negligence if not depraved indifference when several governors forced C19 positive people to be locked down with the most vulnerable. At least the 30k-50k deaths caused by this practice alone in NY saved the State $5B a year in nursing home costs.

Simon
Reply to  AWG
September 30, 2022 7:47 pm

“Furthermore, there is increasing evidence of miscarriages and infertility induced by the mRNA injections that were irresponsibly forced upon pregnant women.”
Bollocks… conspiratorial nonsense.

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H.R.
Reply to  Simon
September 30, 2022 10:25 pm

You might want to check out this data-rich article, Simon.

What’s Happening? The Miscarriage of Declining Fertility Rates | UncoverDC

It should alter your “Bollocks” to at least a “Hmmmm… something is amiss.”

Simon
Reply to  H.R.
October 1, 2022 2:27 am

Well that was a rabbit hole I never want to go down again.

b.nice
Reply to  Simon
October 1, 2022 6:18 am

Yet you still keep eating the magic hallucinogenic mushrooms. !

Simon
Reply to  b.nice
October 1, 2022 9:55 pm

Nope…

H.R.
Reply to  Simon
October 1, 2022 7:50 am

Why? Too much data?

I was expecting at least a “Hmmm…” maybe even a “Yah, but…” but all I got was “La-la-la-la I can’t hear you.”

No point-by-point rebuttal, then? Sorry about that. Didn’t mean to push you to the brink of opening the door to your closed mind. It won’t happen again.

Simon
Reply to  AWG
October 1, 2022 2:30 am

Though this is anecdotal, I know far more people who have died from SADS than who have from CoViD-19. There are many people who also can make this claim. “
Well that is weird. All my family and friends are triple jabbed. None of them had any more than a few flu symptoms. I personally had nothing.

I know of no one who has died from the vaccine. I know a handful who have died from covid. Based on my experience all I can say is I am struggling to see how what you are saying could be true.

Rud Istvan
September 30, 2022 2:53 pm

With respect to the NZ PM, further demonstration that the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
She certainly is not the sharpest tool in the box.

H.R.
Reply to  Rud Istvan
October 1, 2022 8:08 am

You’re a generous soul, Rud. I’m not so sure about the good intentions, but where the road leads is pretty clear.

And she’s pedal to the metal.

OldGreyGuy
September 30, 2022 2:54 pm

So it seems free speech must be protected by controlling what people say and think?

Duker
Reply to  OldGreyGuy
September 30, 2022 4:03 pm

Shes doesnt say that. Its typical politician waffle
‘But we have an opportunity here to ensure that these particular weapons of war do not become an established part of warfare.
And so, we once again come back to the primary tool we have. Diplomacy, dialogue, working together on solutions that do not undermine human rights, but enhance them.

Joel Snider
Reply to  Duker
September 30, 2022 5:28 pm

Wow – unabashed hypocrisy. I’ve known you for about three posts, and you’re already one of the most detestable POS’s I’ve encountered here.

Duker
Reply to  Joel Snider
September 30, 2022 10:44 pm

So you abandon reason in half an hour of comments.
Youre welcome to live in a fact free world , but stick to Twitter or such.
This is reputable science blog

Steve Beck
Reply to  Duker
October 1, 2022 1:24 am

And you are a reputable “useful idiot” and providing most of us with fantastic comedy.

lee riffee
September 30, 2022 2:59 pm

Here’s the thing, the way I see it – they may yet be able to censor out opposing points of view on climate and other things. But, at some point, they won’t be able to do much about hordes of hungry and cold people that will be very unhappy with the way their lives are under such “leadership”. And, as time goes by, those cold and hungry people will realize that (regardless of what they’ve always been told) bad weather, storms, drought and floods are still happening. Even though they’ve been told that those would abate if everyone (well, the little people) live an austere lifestyle with little transportation, little or no heat, A/C and intermittent electric power. I hope it never gets to that point (in NZ or anywhere else) but if it does, that is when the wheels will come off of the CAGW lie….and, like the French Revolution, things might get right ugly for powers that be.

H.R.
Reply to  lee riffee
September 30, 2022 10:27 pm

French haircuts just may come back in style, lee.

Brad-DXT
Reply to  lee riffee
October 1, 2022 11:21 am

If they can get total control ala North Korea, they can hold off the little people for generations at least. They’re already on the second Kim. How many more remains to be seen.

It seems like the tyrant class like the WEF, Soros, Maduro, Kim, and Xi appreciate the power of tyranny. It has been the most popular governing system throughout human history.

Cosmic
September 30, 2022 3:34 pm

Disgusting, authoritarian prig. Ick.

Simon MacPhisto
September 30, 2022 3:55 pm

Safe to say if the tragic victims of the Christchurch attack had been armed to the teeth, some of their relatives would have taken advantage of that situation long before the actual Christchurch attacks, which is the reason loony tunes carried out the attack in the first place. It’s still available to watch on TOR and is utterly horrifying.

Of far more concern here is what JA is saying about free speech. Guns don’t come into it. That’s just an obsession in one particular country. JA would shut down all debate on anything deemed “wrong speak”, and it’s THAT we should all be scared of, because she’s not alone. Far from it. She represents the viewpoint of most Western governments at the moment. And yes, we all know who pays for them.

John Oliver
September 30, 2022 4:11 pm

And then there is in line of power here in USA :Biden then Harris and Nancy Pelosi. Real comforting isn’t it.

george1st:)
September 30, 2022 4:26 pm

Reality is unreal to the numbskulls .

leitmotif
September 30, 2022 4:33 pm

How do you tackle climate change lukewarmism or the ECS if WUWT believe it exists? 

MarkW
September 30, 2022 4:46 pm

The first thing leftists do when they gain power is to start outlawing all opposition to themselves.

Simon
Reply to  MarkW
September 30, 2022 5:47 pm

Remind me again who the president was who decided the press were the enemy and should not be listened to?

b.nice
Reply to  Simon
September 30, 2022 6:12 pm

But he didn’t try to shut them down.. just exposed them as LIARS.. like you.

Duker
Reply to  b.nice
September 30, 2022 10:48 pm

Who tried to shut them down
Ardern didn’t, Biden didn’t.
Sure some blowhard climate scientists or their camp followers are calling for that , but it’s just noise

Independent
Reply to  Duker
September 30, 2022 11:00 pm

Bullshit Biden (or at least the Biden regime, like most things he probably has no clue what’s going on) didn’t try to shut down dissent. The White House openly brags about coordinating with social media companies to crush dissent. That’s the definition of fascism, by the way (not even semi-facism).

Steve Beck
Reply to  Duker
October 1, 2022 1:28 am

No, because the media are on their side. The media are left wing clowns who only shut down conservatives so why should Biden or JA shut down the media? Meanwhile Trump told everyone who the clowns were so we could work it out ourselves. You are not the brightest lightbulb in the room Duker.

b.nice
Reply to  Duker
October 1, 2022 6:21 am

Ignoring the fact that Facebook, Twitter etc have collaborated with the Democrats to stifle realist comments.. make you look very ignorant.

MarkW
Reply to  Duker
October 1, 2022 9:07 am

Biden didn’t have to, the media and social platforms were eager to banish everyone who disagreed on their own.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Simon
September 30, 2022 7:43 pm

The press *is* the enemy, and they should *not* be listened to. Trump was right, they are fake news.

MarkW
Reply to  Tom Abbott
October 1, 2022 9:10 am

Like most socialists, in Simon’s mind, there is a natural progression between someone being wrong and the instinct to outlaw it.
So to his “mind”, saying that the press is wrong is just one step away from demanding that opposition reporters be rounded up and sent to re-education camps.

Independent
Reply to  Simon
September 30, 2022 11:02 pm

What you refer to as “the press” is in reality our domestic propaganda industry in the U.S. – and no, you shouldn’t listen to them unless you enjoy being fed lies and distortions.

Redge
Reply to  Simon
October 1, 2022 4:59 am

Remind me again who the president was who decided the press were the enemy 

Joesph Stalin.

That didn’t end well

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
October 1, 2022 9:06 am

He didn’t say that.
There’s a huge difference between ignoring something and outlawing it.
I would have thought that even you would be able to understand something that simple.

September 30, 2022 5:08 pm

How do you tackle climate change if people do not believe it exists? 
A very subtle “Begging the Question” fallacy.

An equally valid question to ponder would be:
“Why fight Climate Change if it doesn’t exist.”

The former statement is rational only if every one accepts her premise that [harmful] “Climate Change” actually exists, which of course is the very discussion she wished to shut down.

Fraizer
September 30, 2022 5:19 pm

“…The lessons of COVID are in many ways the same as the lessons of climate change…”

They are indeed. The government lies. The government only seeks to increase its power and control at the expense of individual freedom. Never trust the government.

It is not a Left/Right thing. It is a statist/anti-statist thing.

Joel Snider
September 30, 2022 5:22 pm

How about the global prosecution of fascists instead?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Joel Snider
September 30, 2022 7:44 pm

That would be much more productive for humanity.

rho
Reply to  Tom Abbott
October 1, 2022 12:18 am

No. Charges of fascism are just meaningless throw-away insults these days.

rho
Reply to  Joel Snider
October 1, 2022 12:17 am

Who is defining ‘Fascism’? According to Brandon anyone supporting Trump is a fascist. According to the media the recently elected leader of the Italian Brothers party is a fascist – which makes a whole lot of Italians who voted for her also fascist.

Jimmy Haigh
September 30, 2022 5:32 pm

Here’s where Red Cindy plots on my Political Continuum.

Screenshot 2022-10-01 at 07.32.05.png
ATheoK
Reply to  Jimmy Haigh
September 30, 2022 7:04 pm

Red is the color of communism/socialism; e.g., Germany, Russia, China, Cuba, etc., etc.
That puts red Cindy with the extreme left, not right at all.

Trump and MAGA conservatives are centric right!

  • One can not “do deals” when they’re extremists!
  • One can not convince disparate countries to sign treaties if they are extremists!
  • Extremists do not serve all citizens, as President Trump did and demanded from his Administration!
Duker
Reply to  ATheoK
September 30, 2022 10:53 pm

Red is the colour of the United States GOP…..heard of red States?

Trump has been all over the place over the last 30 yrs….more of his own personal brand of authoritarianism called Trumpism
Don’t you remember his recorded phone call to the Georgia election boss where he wanted him to create extra votes so that Trump could win.

Redge
Reply to  Duker
October 1, 2022 5:01 am

Red is also the colour of the extreme left in the UK

Authoritanarism is just around the corner in the UK once the Tories get kicked out

b.nice
Reply to  Duker
October 1, 2022 6:24 am

The Demorats co-oped the blue colour in a vain attempt to hide their communist links.

MarkW
Reply to  Duker
October 1, 2022 9:12 am

It really is amazing how socialists manage to remember so many things that never happened.
And not remember so many things that did happen.
It really is like “1984” where whatever the party tells then to believe today, they believe with all their heart.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Duker
October 2, 2022 3:41 am

Trump didn’t tell anyone in Georgia to create votes. He wanted the voting process investigated because he thought it had been corrupted. I agree with him. It looks corrupt and should be investigated.

You should stop listening to CNN and the other leftwing propaganda outfits. They will lead you astray as they have done here. Everything they say about Trump is a lie.

Jtom
September 30, 2022 5:50 pm

I modestly propose that we give up arguing the science in a political discussion and instead argue solutions.

There’s not much they can say if the obvious is pointed out: Because of the emissions being produced by India and China, the global carbon dioxide targets cannot and will not be met, regardless of our actions. Instead of subsidizing green technologies, we should be spending that money on developing ways to adapt to a changing climate.

Personally, I have no problem spending money developing solutions and contingency plans for a warmer AND cooler world, because we will surely experience one or the other, or both, in the future.

Doc Chuck
Reply to  Jtom
September 30, 2022 10:41 pm

Before devoting so much public treasure to this ‘new’ development recall that in most globally habitable locations we’ve seasonally experienced challenging cold and warm weather swings with every tilted polar axis yearly orbit around our local star, by now to be adapted to over several recorded millenia without this recently cultivated ahistorical sense of extreme novelty!

James Schrumpf
Reply to  Jtom
October 1, 2022 9:29 am

From 1956 to 1987, the average annual temperature at the Auckland Aero AWS (GHCN station NZM00093110) dropped -0.25C per decade.

From 1988 until now, the trend is the opposite, gaining 0.20C per decade.

The Tara Hills station, NZ000937470, shows a similar trend.

So as the world CO2 made its steady climb, somehow these stations recorded a 1.7C drop over 20 years before it started climbing again.

Lots of stations all over the world show a similar pattern, but the overall averaging smooths them right out of the record.

Clyde Spencer
September 30, 2022 6:33 pm

My condolences to the good people of New Zealand, who I have always found to be congenial and level headed.

Nik
September 30, 2022 6:47 pm

If Ardern’s desire to suppress dissenting speech regarding climate change were implemented by the UN, then the UN would be violating (its own) UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights (Article 19).

Cls
September 30, 2022 6:48 pm

Interchange her words for those of the arch Nazi Dr. Goebbels and his belief about Jews.

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Cls
September 30, 2022 6:49 pm

She can be replaced.

Doonman
September 30, 2022 8:30 pm

A challenge that we must as leaders address.

Leaders who define challenges and them accept them are charlatans. The challenges in life define themselves and always have. Adept leaders accept those challenges, not make believe ones. A real challenge facing New Zealand is the Taupo super volcano that has suddenly had 700 earthquakes and measurable uplift in its caldera.

And what do we hear from their “Leader”? Crickets.

H.R.
Reply to  Doonman
September 30, 2022 10:44 pm

Pick one, the volcano or the climate. She can get back to us with her plan to control either one. Her choice.

rho
Reply to  H.R.
October 1, 2022 12:21 am

She can’t control either, of course, but she CAN plan to deal with fall-out from the more immediate threat of a major volcanic eruption.

H.R.
Reply to  rho
October 1, 2022 6:00 am

Exactly, rho. 👍

Graham
Reply to  Doonman
October 2, 2022 6:57 pm

The last Taupo eruption was in 186 AD and the effects were felt all around the world .
It was the largest eruption on the earth for the last 5000 years .
Be careful what you wish for .
The ash cloud could trigger an ice age or at least a very cold growing climate for agriculture world wide .

ResourceGuy
September 30, 2022 8:34 pm

Let Putin annex them instead of Ukraine.

Forrest
September 30, 2022 9:28 pm

Why does this sound SO MUCH like a religious zealot?

We must kill the people who question our dogma because they are a danger to ( fill in the blank )

Look, I am skeptical of a great deal when it comes to CO2 being the doom and gloom. However – if you were to come with SANE plans to move away from CO2 energy sources, such as nuclear reactors. At least we COULD have a conversation.

Instead. Burn them at the stake, and lets have an energy crisis like Europe mentality is just foolish.

The cheaper the energy the more prosperous the people.

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Forrest
October 2, 2022 6:39 am

Agreed, mostly. But sorry, they actually need to support their claims before ANY kind of “energy transition” is justified.

Not only are their claims unsupported by any empirical evidence, but they couldn’t make any measurable impact on their imaginary problem EVEN IF it WAS real, because IF it WAS real, only an impact on GLOBAL emissions would matter.

Since China, India, and other so-called “developing” nations are RAPIDLY RAMPING UP *their* emissions, the simple FACT is that GLOBAL emissions WILL continue to climb. [NOT that it matters, because CO2 doesn’t drive the Earth’s climate. ]

Which all goes to underscore the basic reality these Eco-Nazi fanatics are in denial about – the only thing humanity can do about the ‘climate’ is the only thing humanity could ever do about it, and the only thing humanity will ever BE able to do about it in the future. And that is, ADAPT to the changes THAT ACTUALLY OCCUR.

Gary Pearse
September 30, 2022 9:47 pm

“After all, how do you successfully end a war if people are led to believe the reason for its existence is not only legal but noble?”

Wow, projection seems to be
the go-to ‘weapon’ of witless radical left politcos like Ardern. She even managed to use the word “noble” to underscore it.

Geoff Sherrington
September 30, 2022 11:41 pm

As I noted four years ago, increasing atmospheric global CO2 is causing greater growth not only to plants, but to the teeth of the people born after about 1970. Children now at school really need orthodontic advice to manage this growth.
Jacinda is a showcase full of this teeth effect. Unmanaged for faster growth, her teeth are now so massive that she has trouble speaking properly. This is the case even for those rare events when she says something that people can understand. Geoff S

John Laurent
October 1, 2022 12:38 am

Jacinda Ardern has history in subverting the truth. Her government set up a NZ$55 million fund to make grants to our main stream media organisations. The only condition is that they are required to promote the Treaty of Waitangi as a partnership between the British crown and our indigenous people, the Maori.

The significance of the partnership framing is that it legitimised her government current and active project to replace universal and equal suffrage with 50/50 cogovernance. This means at all levels from national to local government 50% of the vote is by the non Maori population (83% of our population) and the other 50% of the power is held by unelected Maori chiefs.

Despite her fine words Jacinda Ardern is a traitor to democracy. Her woke liberal government can do this by a simple majority because our constitutional safeguards are so weak. I wish we had a US style constitution.

Hubert
October 1, 2022 2:57 am

The time of inquisition is over !
typical from people who don’t know this subject and cannot even give a proper definition what is the climate !
Science, generally speaking, is not frozen for ever , but evolves with new discoveries and new data !
Today, the climate model of IPCC diverges from the reality and should be replaced by something different which reflects the current measurements …

Peta of Newark
October 1, 2022 3:18 am

What she’s doing here is actually, simply, admitting to being A Girl/Woman.Because and classically and due to their tendency to ‘make babies’, girls ‘go long’ and strong on the Precautionary Principle.(PP)
Because of the immense emotional bond they have with their babies, they really do go out of the way not to damage the baby and break that bond. Becuase it will hurt, physically as well as emotionally
And they take the PP with them everywhere they go – even into the prime Ministers official residence/office

Another thing they do when looking after their baby, is use Guilt as a device to teach, manage and control the child.
They will say “Oh no little Michael/James/Al, just look how naughty you’ve been – Just You Wait Till Your Father Gets Home.
Guilt and fear are instilled into the child as to what sort of punishment ‘father’ will dispense.
With any luck and certainly in Ye Goode Olde Dayes and on his arrival, father would engage his GSOH, make a joke of it and defuse the situation in an instant.
(The Joke is the important part – it in fact how we learn and remember things – by attaching ‘something silly’ to the occasion/event)

That is also how Mono-atheism works.
When there is only one God, whoever has set himself up as ‘deputy’ or right-hand-man down here on earth (typically The King) – said person will get people to bend to his will by asserting that they will be punished if/when they get to ‘heaven’
That only works when there is one God – and as in the mother & child situation there can only be one real father.
Hence King Knut from Olde England realised that and why he became a ‘Christian’ – doing so gave him the power of God. And holy cow, was it a bloodthirsty god or what.
Somehow and bit like the trashing of the 2nd law inside the Gas Effect – he picked and chose the bits he liked.

Now do we see what’s Ahern is doing.
a/ Being extremely cautious with regard her babies (the electorate), telling them they did wrong with regard the climate
b/ Is now saying (by appealing to the higher authority than she has or wants to have = the UN) wait till your father gets home to deliver you a punishment

Just like a young mother dealing with an errant child

See The Fail there… SHE is supposed to be The Authority.

IOW: She is admitting with total candour and crystal clarity that she in not fit for the job she is in.

Next step hun – Realise what you’ve just said, then, close the door on your way out and don’t come back

Captain climate
October 1, 2022 3:28 am

She’s the living version of the crazy girlfriend meme.

ozspeaksup
October 1, 2022 3:38 am

funny they partnered with macaroon for the terror stunt
when french were the ones did the First NZ terror act by blowing Rainbow warrior up IN harbour of NZ
ah but then
he n she are WEF young leaders…

DPP
October 1, 2022 3:48 am

This ditz has been well and truly WEFified. Fortunately she will be out at the next NZ election.

Redge
October 1, 2022 4:37 am

But while I cannot tell you today what the answer is to this challenge, I can say with complete certainty that we cannot ignore it.

Cannot or will not?

To do so poses an equal threat to the norms we all value.

I think you’ve just told us your answer to “this challenge”

Curt
October 1, 2022 5:52 am

“How do you tackle climate change if people do not believe it exists?” How do you tackle the Martian invasion if people do not believe Martians exist?

Paul Hurley (aka PaulH)
October 1, 2022 7:22 am

Censorship is ultimately self-defeating. All it does is build suspicion of the regime while driving underground the discussion of alternate points of view.

lynn
October 1, 2022 2:45 pm

They are equating Climate Skeptics with mass murderers. This needs to stop and stop right now.

They keep on telegraphing their opinion that they are special and view the rest of us as their serfs. Soon they will make themselves as royalty and be able to put their children in their place.

Boff Doff
October 2, 2022 11:49 am

Be afraid. Be very afraid.

Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water….

niceguy
October 2, 2022 6:01 pm

Pharma companies including Pfizer, Novartis and AbbVie have paused advertising on Facebook for July. Their brands join others in the Stop Hate for Profit campaign, meant to pressure Facebook into taking action against hate and disinformation spread on its platform.

https://www.fiercepharma.com/marketing/pfizer-novartis-abbvie-and-other-pharma-halt-july-ads-facebook-as-stop-hate-for-profit

More than 660 businesses have joined the Facebook ad pause to date, according to a database compiled by one of the Stop Hate partners, Sleeping Giants. Powerhouse brands such as Adidas, Coca-Cola, Ford, Pepsi, Target, Unilever and Volkswagen have all committed to the campaign, organized by civil rights organizations including the Anti-Defamation League, the NAACP, Sleeping Giants, Color Of Change, Free Press and Common Sense.

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