Sri Lanka Protest. AntanO, CC BY-SA 4.0, via Wikimedia Commons

Climate Activists Attacking Fertiliser Use, Mass Produced Food

Essay by Eric Worrall

“… absent severe reductions in fossil fuel emissions, some places will likely have to give up farming entirely in the near future. …”

Industrial Farming Causes Climate Change. The ‘Slow Food’ Movement Wants to Stop It

BY ARYN BAKER 
SEPTEMBER 28, 2022 1:10 PM EDT

Abiennial celebration of international small-scale farmers, breeders, fishers, and food producers just wrapped up in Turin, Italy. Convened by the Slow Food movement, one phrase in particular dominated the Terra Madre Salone del Gusto festival’s long roster of panel discussions and workshops: “Food is the cause of the environmental crisis, but it can also be the solution.” 

Food production contributes approximately 37% of global greenhouse gas emissions, making farmers both contributors to, and victims of, climate change. But it doesn’t have to be that way, say proponents of Slow Food, a movement started in Italy 36 years ago that promotes “good, clean and fair food” along with a stronger connection between people and the food they eat. Adopting climate-smart farming practices, and taking a more flexible approach to what is farmed where, will make food production more resilient in the face of climate change. But even then, it may not be enough—absent severe reductions in fossil fuel emissions, some places will likely have to give up farming entirely in the near future.

Improving Resilience

Conventional agriculture seeks to maximize production via large scale farms that rely on monocrops fed by greenhouse gas-emitting fertilizers, protected by biodiversity-damaging pesticides and harvested by fossil fuel-spewing combines and tractors. Industrial farming may be able to produce food cheaply, but it comes with a great environmental cost, says Edward Mukiibi, Slow Food’s new president. The pursuit of profit above all else has resulted in soils so stripped of their nutrients that farmers have no choice but to add increasing amounts of chemical fertilizers and pesticides to maintain production in a downward spiral of additive addiction.

But by focusing on soil health—by letting fields lie fallow, rotating crops, planting hedgerows, or letting cattle churn up the earth and fertilize it with their droppings, among other practices—farmers can improve the quality of their crops, with the added benefit of increased biodiversity and carbon sequestration. That’s the way smallholders used to farm, back when crops were destined for the farmer’s kitchen as much as for the market. These days the practice is called agroecology or regenerative farming, but it’s what Slow Food has been advocating for decades. 

Read more: https://time.com/6217813/slow-food-movement-climate-change/

Aryn Baker is Time Magazine’s senior international climate and environment correspondent.

Wasn’t the Sri Lankan food catastrophe enough of a lesson on our absolute need for modern agriculture and chemical fertiliser? I used to buy Time Magazine at least a few times per year, the stories were interesting, before they went all in and embraced climate misanthropy.

I have no problem with boutique farms producing delicious food using palaeolithic agricultural techniques for wealthy customers. I’m happy to buy the occasional slice of delicious artisan cheese, or tomatoes or olives grown with love, but it would devastate my finances to have to live off such produce full time. A lot of people simply wouldn’t be able to afford to eat at all.

To feed the world of today we need agricultural mass production, fossil fuel and chemicals, not ignorant theories and disastrous policy choices.

I’ll be at CPAC Australia in Sydney this Saturday and Sunday – I look forward to meeting some of you in person.

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Zig Zag Wanderer
September 29, 2022 6:06 pm

Back in the perfect days before the industrial revolution, almost all people were working 16 hours a day, six or seven days a week, just to make enough food for themselves and their landlords. I guess the Climate Crazies believe that they will be the landlords this time around, but they are sorely mistaken. The likes of Fat Al will be their overseers.

MarkW
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
September 29, 2022 6:35 pm

That was also the reason why back then, children had to work. Without their labor, the family starved. It was the productivity improvements created by the free market that enabled children to stop working and go to school. Government had nothing to do with it.

Steve4192
Reply to  MarkW
September 30, 2022 4:10 am

Yep

That was also the reason people had more children. Pre-industrial revolution, children were both sources of labor and a retirement plan.

Dave Andrews
Reply to  Steve4192
September 30, 2022 6:34 am

In many parts of the world today those are still the reasons to have more children.

Bryan A
Reply to  Dave Andrews
September 30, 2022 9:24 am

Let them proof their concept by growing their own food …
Without industrial produced fertilizer
Without manure (no more cattle ranching, no manure supply)
Without assistance of machinery to plant or harvest (requires FF)
Without pesticides

For the next 5 years.
And no cheating going to the grocery store for food

Redge
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
September 29, 2022 10:40 pm

Back to the feudal system future

Serfs up!

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Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
September 30, 2022 6:37 am

Four barrels of oil is energy-equivalent to a lifetime of hard labor. That is what modern primary energy does for us, and ~85% of modern primary energy is fossil fuels – oil, coal, and natural gas. Most of the rest is hydro and nuclear, and only a few percent is wind and solar, despite trillions of dollars of squandered subsidies. Green energy schemes and the alleged fossil-fuel-driven global warming crisis are scientific and technical falsehoods.
 
The promotion of green energy in the developed world has hugely increased costs and destabilized electrical grids – it is a proven green energy debacle, as we correctly predicted 20 years ago, Germany, Britain and others are now paying the price for their climate-and-energy foolishness.

THE ABYSMAL FAILURE OF THE GLOBAL WARMING ALARMISTS’ PREDICTIVE TRACK RECORD. “THE LEFT LIES ABOUT EVERYTHING!”

Rode and Fischbeck, professor of Social & Decision Sciences and Engineering & Public Policy, collected 79 predictions of climate-caused apocalypse going back to the first Earth Day in 1970. With the passage of time, many of these forecasts have since expired; the dates have come and gone uneventfully. In fact, 48 (61%) of the predictions have already expired as of the end of 2020.”

For 60:40 predictions, the odds of being this wrong are 1 in 13 quintillion; for 70:30 predictions, the odds are 1 in 13 septillion. It’s not just climate scientists being randomly mistaken – they must have known they were not telling the truth.

See https://CorrectPredictions.ca/

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niceguy
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
October 1, 2022 7:28 pm

working 16 hours a day, six or seven days a week

Because “infinite” (?) growth in a “finite” (?) world is impossible, Sandrine Rousseau insinuates we need to go back to that time (or not? but what else could she mean?) with a shock of unproductivity and have adopt the week with four days of work.

Which is what qualifies her to each economics in France. And be elected.

Scissor
September 29, 2022 6:07 pm

They should be told the truth that marijuana grows use fertilizers, including boosting ambient CO2 to over 1000 ppm.

bil
Reply to  Scissor
September 30, 2022 2:04 am

My son recently managed a planning application for ‘medicinal’ marijuana farm. Green it isn’t. All indoor – lights, heating, CO2 injection.

Tom Halla
September 29, 2022 6:13 pm

Biodynamic agriculture was an outgrowth of the same rejection of science in pre-WWI Germany that also gave rise to Theosophy and Ariosophy and the NSDAP. Organic and regenerative agriculture are but renamed versions of biodynamic agriculture.
Mysticism is not really anything to rely on, as Sri Lanka demonstrated. I would suggest Vedanta Shiva is as callous as Heinrich Himmler, another advocate for biodynamic farming.

niceguy
Reply to  Tom Halla
October 1, 2022 10:15 pm

Pierre Rabhi was giving well paid conferences. Not on the level of a Al Carbon Gore of course, but not poor.

“Colibris” his creation is promoting people who pretend to do “agroécologie” but mostly teach. They don’t live with their way of growing food.

DMacKenzie
September 29, 2022 6:15 pm

“…food production causes 37% of global GHG emissions…”

Just complete Bullshit.
Look what you have to include to get even 1/3 of that number…

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DMacKenzie
Reply to  DMacKenzie
September 29, 2022 6:29 pm

From World in Data….

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Reply to  DMacKenzie
September 29, 2022 7:12 pm

Yes, it’s BS. What they should use is NET CO2 emissions. Those are about as close to zero as you can get, because every carbon atom in food – plant or meat – has come from the atmosphere in the first place.

In the full scheme of things, agricultural CO2 emissions are just about meaningless, but activists like to use them for propaganda purposes because the real world is so far away from the MSM and politics – and therefore from the “some of the people all of the time” public – that they can get away with it.

HotScot
Reply to  Mike Jonas
September 30, 2022 1:13 am

There’s an extremely good campaign in there……….

Steve Case
Reply to  DMacKenzie
September 29, 2022 9:07 pm

I buzzed right past that one. Crops and other green plants are CO2 sinks.

tgasloli
September 29, 2022 6:31 pm

Of course to get rid of modern agriculture you would also need to get rid of 80% of the world’s population; are the protesters will to die first?

Redge
Reply to  tgasloli
September 29, 2022 10:41 pm

Rhetorical?

J. R.
Reply to  tgasloli
September 30, 2022 11:46 am

No, the protestors have to live so they can make certain that the remainder of mankind is in proper balance with the Earth.

DMacKenzie
September 29, 2022 6:31 pm

From WID

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DMacKenzie
Reply to  DMacKenzie
September 29, 2022 8:56 pm

Oops, got a SPAM bounceback first time I posted it.

Steve Case
September 29, 2022 6:34 pm

“…farmers can improve the quality of their crops, with the added benefit of increased biodiversity and carbon sequestration. “
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Carbon sequestration is a concept that is entirely without merit. 

william Johnston
Reply to  Steve Case
September 30, 2022 7:03 am

Unless we are receiving carbon from outer space, ALL our carbon is recycled. Same with CO2.

John the Econ
September 29, 2022 6:40 pm

“If they would rather die,” said Scrooge, “they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population.”

Spetzer86
Reply to  John the Econ
September 30, 2022 4:13 am

I don’t mind the Greens wanting to die. It’s that they want to take the rest of us with them that I object to.

Eric Vieira
Reply to  John the Econ
September 30, 2022 5:29 am

And compost all of them in California ? … Cool …

william Johnston
Reply to  Eric Vieira
September 30, 2022 7:06 am

Which is the latest fad. Have your remains composted and they can then be deposited as fertilizer around your favorite rose bush or something.

Frank from NoVA
September 29, 2022 6:44 pm

‘That’s the way smallholders used to farm, back when crops were destined for the farmer’s kitchen as much as for the market.‘

Actually, that’s the way we used to farm when almost everyone worked on farms and barely lived above the subsistence level.

Richard Page
Reply to  Frank from NoVA
September 29, 2022 7:09 pm

Do you remember the self-sufficiency craze of the 70’s? Move to a country smallholding and grow everything you need on your own land? Thousands tried it, moving from cities, towns and suburbs with no agricultural skills, just what they’d read in incredibly popular books. All of them failed dismally – the only successful people of that craze were the ones that wrote the (often) bestselling books.

michael hart
Reply to  Richard Page
September 29, 2022 8:19 pm

The BBC had a popular 1970s sitcom mocking it called “The Good Life”. Well written and superb acting from almost everyone in the cast. Well worth a watch.

Redge
Reply to  michael hart
September 29, 2022 11:28 pm

Weren’t the Goods mocking Margo, not mocking “The Good Life”?

Richard Page
Reply to  Redge
September 30, 2022 12:07 pm

Both, I think. That they tried to be self sufficient in suburbia, amongst the corporate drones and dutiful wives was mocking complacent suburbia whilst also poking fun at suburban dropouts that didn’t have a clue beyond the idealised utopia they read of in the books. It was that same ‘idealised utopia as unreachable fantasy’ concept which was the reason I mentioned it in the first place!

Reply to  michael hart
September 30, 2022 4:28 pm

And Felicity Kendall (Barbara Goode) was utterly gorgeous in that!

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MarkH
Reply to  Richard Page
September 29, 2022 8:24 pm

If you want to make money in a Gold rush, sell shovels and picks.

Redge
Reply to  MarkH
September 29, 2022 11:28 pm

Yes, we’ll need them to drive the Greens out of town

Slowroll
Reply to  MarkH
September 30, 2022 9:40 am

Jeans and lending money too. The only companies still in existence after the California gold rush are Levi Straus and Wells Fargo.

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Reply to  Frank from NoVA
September 29, 2022 7:16 pm

And ships had sails. Those sails are no longer cost-effective for transport, as the shipping industry worked out a very long time ago, and they have never been effective for electricity generation, as the energy industry is just realising now (far too late but better late than never).

bil
Reply to  Mike Jonas
September 30, 2022 2:08 am

Steady now. Next you’ll be telling me windmills are 16th century technology that we worked out how to replace in the industrial revolution.

markl
September 29, 2022 7:09 pm

Activists without the slightest idea of what it takes to get food to their table.

H.R.
Reply to  markl
September 29, 2022 8:29 pm

They have no freakin’ idea what it takes to get the ingredients for a mocha latte to their neighborhood Starbucks, markl, let alone food to their table.

Redge
Reply to  H.R.
September 29, 2022 11:29 pm

Children just won’t know what coffee is

Gregory Woods
Reply to  Redge
September 30, 2022 2:36 am

Good thing I ain’t no kid….

Steve4192
Reply to  Redge
September 30, 2022 4:17 am

Enjoy your ersatz coffee little Billy and Latisha. It may stink of burnt acorns and have no caffeine in it, but it’s as close as you will get to the real thing.

Mark BLR
Reply to  markl
September 30, 2022 4:39 am

Activists without the slightest idea of what it takes to get food to their table.

Aren’t there a whole series of “jokes” about how the modern education system results in teenage activists (/ middle-class people / champagne socialists) with little grasp of reality ?

Question : Where does food come from ?
Answer : The supermarket (/ Waitrose).

Question : Where does electricity come from ?
Answer : Wall sockets.

Paul Hurley (aka PaulH)
Reply to  markl
September 30, 2022 6:04 am

Sure they do! They walk to their local grocery store, buy what they want, then walk home. Easy-peasy! Anyone can do it. 😉

J. R.
Reply to  Paul Hurley (aka PaulH)
September 30, 2022 11:53 am

Walk? Are you kidding?

TasChas
September 29, 2022 7:20 pm

What the green cretins fail to understand or grasp is that before the advent of chemically produced fertilizers it was required for 1 person on the land to support 3 in town. Since chemical fertilisers this has risen to close to 1:100. It has also recently come to pass that over 50% of the world population is now urban. I would like to see how removal of fertilizers is going to work with the current population dispensation.

Dave Fair
Reply to  TasChas
September 29, 2022 7:42 pm

Read Vaclav Smil’s “How the World Really Works.” Share it; give copies to your friends and family. It should be required reading in HS and college.

TasChas
Reply to  Dave Fair
September 29, 2022 8:12 pm

Fertilizer aside, what should be required understanding is that 1 litre of fuel (petrol) produces as much work as a 10 hr man-day by a fit strong man working close to his power limit. (Lance Armstron at his peak could produce 240 W at peak). Taking rest breaks etc you would be lucky to get 20 hrs of work per litre. For US consumption 3.8 litres = 1 gal US. Thats why your food is so cheap. Now try to produce enough fertiliser equivanent (N,P,K and trace elements, etc) to allow your crop to grow and produce enough to sustain you.

AndyHce
Reply to  TasChas
September 29, 2022 8:56 pm

Don’t forget that extensive mining of bird dropping and farm waste for fertilizer The need for fertilizer did not start with the discovery of the means to produce nitrogen plant food from natural gas. The invention was made because there was a strong need for it.

StephenP
Reply to  AndyHce
September 30, 2022 4:10 am

William Gibbs in the 1800s made a colossal fortune by importing guano (sea bird droppings) from the Pacific to sell for fertilising land in the ‘High farming’ period which lasted until the late 1870s when the opening of the American Prairies to arable farming brought this period to an end.
The fertiliser was needed in the UK to give improved yield and replace nutrients sold off the farm in arable crops and meat.
There was a large trade in ‘night soil’ from London to the market gardens surrounding the city.
Any assumption that the use of fertiliser is unnecessary ignores the fact that nutrients are lost to the farm in sold produce and needs to be replaced if yields are to be maintained.

An experiment at Rothamstead Experimental Station that has run since 1841 shows the long term effects of fertilisation by different methods. A recent finding is the interaction of methane and nitrogen fertiliser.

https://www.downtoearth.org.in/news/agriculture/breaking-new-ground-world-s-longest-running-farm-study-adds-to-organic-inorganic-debate-76817

Dr Ken Pollock
Reply to  StephenP
September 30, 2022 10:06 am

Great piece, but note the place is called Rothamsted – no “a”…I got that wrong in my PhD thesis, and it was one reason for me rewriting it…Set up in 1843 by John Bennet Lawes!

Joao Martins
Reply to  TasChas
September 30, 2022 4:28 am

You can make the same reasoning regarding the area of land needed to support one person. Very gross estimate, without rechecking the actual numbers: the same amount of land that fed one person is now feeding more than 5, possibly near 10.

Dave Fair
September 29, 2022 7:34 pm

Hi! Lets all enter into a pact to quickly starve to death. Effing idiots.

Douglas Birlingmair
September 29, 2022 7:41 pm

Back in my day, we called them Hippies. Peace, Man!

garboard
September 29, 2022 7:41 pm

norman borlag is credited with saving the lives of a billion people , was awarded the nobel peace prize and was hailed as the father of the green revolution . from the beginning he was attacked by radical environmentalists whom he considered elitists with no knowledge of hunger or life in the third world .

Lark
September 29, 2022 7:42 pm

“Food is the cause of the environmental crisis, but it can also be the solution.” 

Standard Communists, standard Communist definitions:
By “environmental crisis”, they mean “other people”.
By “solution”, they mean “starvation”.

A Holodomor or Great Leap Forward when Communists take over is part of their plan.

Richard Page
Reply to  Lark
September 30, 2022 12:16 pm

‘Plan’ would imply that they have a frickin’ clue. I think that the vast majority of these idjits firmly believe that natural fertilisers will really do what’s required and that the only reason ‘big farming corporations’ use chemicals is because it’s cheaper. They have bought into the ‘capitalism and big corporations’ are bad as an idea without bothering to look at the details – it would be a disaster.

John Pickens
September 29, 2022 7:58 pm

I keep reading green fantasies of replacing chemical fertilizers with manure from animals. Manure is already being used for fertilizer. These green idiots actually believe there is some big pile of unused manure out there because those stupid farmers don’t know about it.

Oh, and most of these idiots also want to ban livestock because meat is murder.

MarkW
Reply to  John Pickens
September 29, 2022 8:04 pm

They also plan on getting rid of most farm animals in order to reduce methane emissions.

Jit
Reply to  MarkW
September 30, 2022 12:42 am

It’s fine. We won’t have any animals, but we’ll be able to get by on the giant piles of BS.

buggs
Reply to  John Pickens
September 29, 2022 8:47 pm

Manure is also incomplete in terms of nutrients. It is certainly better than nothing but a far cry from precision application of non-manure fertilizers. It’s a good way to lead to nutrient imbalance in the soil if it’s your sole source of fertilizer. And as MarkW points out below, there ain’t no fertilizer without animals which is another goal. Unless of course the plan is to go with nightsoil, something that has an altogether separate set of issues.

Reply to  buggs
September 30, 2022 4:40 pm

I read,somewhere, (possibly American Archaeology or the Beeb or both) a month or three ago, that a colony (?) Of monks had higher levels of internal parasites (?? Ringworm, possibly) because they used their own nightsoil for their veggies.

So returning the West to the seventeenth century is not without problems …

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John Hultquist
September 29, 2022 8:17 pm

Starting at about age 4, I have over the years done many of the hands-on growing of food. Those are great experiences and I recommend them to all.
Shucking corn with a deer antler and removing weeds with a hoe is fun for a small child – for a few minutes. Picking “tomato worms” (large green worms with black stripes on their sides and yellow spots along their backs) is loads of fun.
Seventy years later, I am happy to get my food at a grocery store.  

Brad-DXT
September 29, 2022 8:57 pm

I’m all for the the slow food movement. Deer are a lot harder to shoot when they’re running full tilt and bouncing up and down.🥩

James B.
Reply to  Brad-DXT
September 30, 2022 11:34 am

Deer wander about in my city in the U.S. PNW. They have acclimated to the urban environment with no preditors.

Brad-DXT
Reply to  James B.
September 30, 2022 9:38 pm

My woods are surrounded by farmland, mostly soybeans and corn. First the deer eat the soybeans, then they eat the corn, then they come for my acorns. They taste great.
If the deer by you are living in an urban environment, they must not be eating very well. How do they taste?
At least they’re easy to find which may come in handy this winter.

Shoki Kaneda
September 29, 2022 9:44 pm

Sri Lanka is the place for them.

observa
September 29, 2022 9:47 pm

Just heard another taxeater nagging scold on Aunty radio banging on about food waste-
Tackling Australia’s food waste – DCCEEW

As if it’s any problem whatsoever compared to the less developed world’s problems with pest control logistics and storage and why they often go hungry. As far as developed countries goes every bloke knows it’s the sheilas that are paranoid about use by or best before dates and opening new jars and containers whenever the existing are getting low. Some affirmative action here wouldn’t go astray but talk to the hand eh girls?

Moderately Cross of East Anglia
Reply to  observa
September 30, 2022 1:17 am

Observa
You’re pushing against an open door here, the fear of keeping tinned food over supposed dates on which it becomes instant poison is another modern hysteria.

Mind you, reason is required. Apparently when putting food in tins was first thought of the British Royal Navy embraced the idea. Unfortunately it hadn’t yet been worked out that you shouldn’t make the tins too large. There were several spectacular and very smelly explosions requiring a lot of personal washing and a general clean up afterwards.

TonyG
Reply to  Moderately Cross of East Anglia
September 30, 2022 8:48 am

In the 80’s I ate some of my father’s WWII C-rations. Not good, but not poison.

edit: Don’t ask me why he saved them for 40 years, i have no idea

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J. R.
Reply to  observa
September 30, 2022 12:13 pm

Not far from me is a discount grocery store. Everything they sell is overstock from other stores. Nearly everything is beyond its sell-by date. It’s very inexpensive and sometimes a gamble (I bought some stale chips once or twice), but it’s part of the free market and plenty of people shop there.

Chris Hanley
September 29, 2022 9:52 pm

“Industrial Farming Causes Climate Change. The ‘Slow Food’ Slow Starvation Movement Wants to Stop It”.

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Graham
September 29, 2022 10:18 pm

I agree 100% with your comments Eric .
As I have written recently here on WUWT the worlds population at the end of World War 2 in 1945 was around 2.5 billion .
In November in one months time the population of the world will pass 8 billion.
This is an increase of 5.5 Billion people in 77 years and I could almost guarantee that there are 7 billion people living in towns and cities and that the number of farmers and growers and their staff are now very similar numbers to those in 1945 .
Growers can grow organically and sell at farmers markets for higher prices but the amount of food that they produce would not feed the world and much of the worlds population depend on staple foods produced.cheaply in large volumes.
This is a fact that nitrogenous fertilizer grows enough extra food to feed half of the worlds population.
Without this essential fertilizer people will starve .
Starvation is not something new as my mother told me and my siblings to eat up our food as there were starving children in Africa who would be thankful for what was left on our plates .
This was in the 1940s .
There is a push by Greenpeace to petition governments to ban nitrogen fertilizer which has to be vigorously defeated as banning nitrogen will lead to widespread starvation through out the world .

Dave Andrews
Reply to  Graham
September 30, 2022 7:14 am

Greenpeace also vehemently opposed GM crops and would not accept the verdict of the UN Food and Agriculture Organisation that they were perfectly safe.

Similarly they have never accepted the views of the UN Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation (UNSCEAR).

But everything the IPCC says they follow slavishly !

william Johnston
Reply to  Graham
September 30, 2022 7:22 am

I wonder which side of the proposal Bill Gates is on
In view of the fact he is purchasing large parcels of ag land. Along with China.

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Redge
September 29, 2022 10:35 pm

The original article has a small typo:

but it comes with a great environmental cost, says Edward Mukiibi, Slow No Food’s new president. 

Redge
September 29, 2022 10:37 pm

oops just realised I’m using the wrong email address, which is why my comments are waiting for approval – sorry mods, it is me

Nick Graves
Reply to  Redge
September 30, 2022 12:26 am

No, no – admitting and apologising for your mistake is now a sign of Toxic Masculinity, dontcha know?

You are meant to sue the website for triggering you, or something.

Alexy Scherbakoff
September 29, 2022 10:47 pm

These idiots should have a chat with the Chinese and Indian governments about feeding close to 3 billion people without fertiliser.
It’s the same story as CO2. A few thousand people whining about stuff without any awareness of the elephant in the room.

Rod Evans
September 30, 2022 12:22 am

The movement to ban manufactured fertiliser must be called out for what it is.
It is a movement demanding the deaths of billions yes billions of people in a single generation.
It would be the ultimate crime against humanity if manufactured fertiliser was banned from use.
When these enlightened progressives talk so fondly about slow growing food production, using only natural fertilisers such as manure or bio compost systems they are referring to a time when less than 2 billion people lived on Earth.
To return to those traditional food production practices requires the loss/death of at least 6 billion living souls. That is what the progressives actually mean and what they are advocating for, when they demand the end of manufactured fertiliser.

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Peta of Newark
September 30, 2022 1:11 am

This is so unspeakably depressing…
That so many people, everybody, can get something which is so inherently simple (how plants grow) so devastatingly wrong.

Its right up there with:

  • the Trashing Of Entropy (CO2 and the GHGE)
  • Stratospheric Ozone
  • Acid Rain
  • Saturated Fat & Diabetes
  • Dietary Salt
  • Ground Level Ozone in cities
  • How much Vitamin C to consume daily
  • What Nitrogen fertiliser actually does or ‘How it works’

Everything is now wrong in this world
But vastly worse, folks use their (seemingly wilful) lack of knowledge & understanding to score points off anybody and everybody else.
Thus: If someone says anything that runs contra to their personal beliefs, formulated via Magical Thinking, Tribalism, Cherry Picking, Consensus and all other variations of brainwashing – they panic.
They go into instant fight or flight.
Nowadays, because they are physically & mentally lazy & bloated (those things are inextricably linked) – they go into Fight Mode.
As exactly we see here

If this continues, Humanity is perfectly fugged – it’s happening a lot faster than anyone dares imagine.
Ever increasingly accelerated in a positive feedback loop by computers, social and main stream media.

Especially in the ‘Authority’ that computers are now empowered with = exactly what their creators intended. Computers are **never** wrong.
And what are ‘computers’
I’ll tellya: “Devices created and engineered by socially dysfunctional and sexually awkward young men (Gates, Jobs, Zuckerberg etc) oft referred to as “Geeks”
That dysfunction permeates everything that computers touch.

Oh yeah you ask: How do I know that?
Ans. = a question in return, “Where are the girls in these discussions

The girls are not in these discussions because they are in lawyers’ offices, (not least but ‘most everywhere else) cross-legged and sucking on lemons, levelling charges of Unreasonable Behaviour

This essay and the responses are = that. Unreasonable Behaviour
The admission of same is sweet, in the UK at least.
…..seemingly now or soon in the future, to obtain a divorce it won’t be necessary to apportion fault or blame.
i.e. The Boys don’t like being told they’re being unreasonable so they’ve simultaneously covered their ears and silenced the girls. Neat huh.

The End is well advanced, in that over 50% of all kids in the UK are now born ‘out of wedlock’ but even and infinitely more horrible:
……by year 2050 all the kids born will, following a (as much beloved) trend-line, all those kids will be mentally wrecked from the very instant they’re born

The wrongness, the denial and the wilful ignorance is galling there also:
Official Government Figures tell of 1-in-40 kids being autistic. Or ‘On the Spectrum
Once you have experience of The Spectrum and recognise the symptoms, that number is easily 1-in-4

And the cause of that damage:
Fast Agriculture, as opposed to Slow Food
And once Glyphosate gets into the mix, the pedal really does hit the metal.

There Are No Free Lunches
Everything comes at a cost. Cheap Food is Nasty Food and you pay via mentally (and physically) destroyed children.
You pay financially right now, $4 Trillion annually in the US to treat the 88% of the population with a long-term metabolic disorder = any number of disorders caused by eating Nasty Food
(Fatness & Obesity basically)

But somehow, in the crazed world of Magical Thinkers, that means ‘Everything Has Never Been Better
as we’re told here.

Yet the solution is so painfully simple, so cheap and readily available almost everywhere on this Earth.
THAT is what is so depressing. Even more so in that the proponents of Slow Food and Regenerative Agriculture don’t seem to recognise it.
They know it exists, in places they call Blue Zones but even there, it hasn’t dawned on them what’s actually going on. Cause & Effect errors rule. OK.

Even the Slow Fooders don’t know how plants work, so eager are they to throw CO2 brickbats at people they call Deniers. And the deniers oblige by returning fire whenever they can – the very definition of unreasonable (i.e without thought or very good reason)

Such is the problem with Big Things. Sometimes they are sooooo verrrrry biiiiiig, you cannot see them

PS You will NOT find it by looking up into the sky. It’s not there.
Try somewhere else

Sean
September 30, 2022 2:36 am

Does this mean no food should be grown for energy production like bio diesel or corn ethanol unless “Slow Food” methods are used?

Ilma
September 30, 2022 2:47 am

Well, they said they wanted to reduce the global population. I suppose starving them is one way.

aaron
September 30, 2022 2:54 am

This seems to be a theme:

Step one: Create carbon emissions reduction scheme that disincentivizes forest management.

Step two: Blame wildfires on climate change.

Step three: Increase carbon emissions reduction incentives. Repeat step two.

“ That changed over much of the country – however – with the Kyoto protocol. Maintenance of open woodland was discouraged. Prescribed burning was included in emissions – wildfires were not.”
Australian Hydrologist Robert I Ellison

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observa
September 30, 2022 2:58 am

Cheer up. It’s not all doom and gloom as the kiddies will all get one net zero carbon wish-
Greta Thunberg has a new job: What does the climate activist actually do? (msn.com)

Oldseadog
Reply to  observa
September 30, 2022 7:37 am

Interesting link, and the next link from that one saying St. Greta is worth $1,000,000 is even more interesting.

Where did I go wrong when I was 19?

Richard Page
Reply to  Oldseadog
September 30, 2022 12:27 pm

‘Saint’ Greta writes activist childrens books, is employed by the Greta Thunberg charity, gets paid for appearances and now works for another charity. That she gives a percentage of what she rakes in to other charities is good but probably doesn’t detract from her personal fortune. When you sell lies and disinformation the living is good – just ask Attenborough!

alanstorm
September 30, 2022 3:33 am

But by focusing on soil health—by letting fields lie fallow, rotating crops, planting hedgerows, or letting cattle churn up the earth and fertilize it with their droppings, among other practices—farmers can improve the quality of their crops…

You mean like they do in Idaho right now?

The warmists are like teenagers who think they’re the first people to discover sex. They don’t know how things happen, so they imagine how it works and define their flights of fancy as “SCIENCE!”.

Sweet Old Bob
Reply to  alanstorm
September 30, 2022 8:16 am

” planting hedgerows”
Helps shield from weather , but suck water away from crops . Which is why so many hedgerows are being removed .

Spetzer86
September 30, 2022 4:10 am

stronger connection between people and the food they eat”…if they’re not careful, there won’t be a difference between the people and the food they eat…

KcTaz
September 30, 2022 5:33 am

“To feed the world of today we need agricultural mass production, fossil fuel and chemicals, not ignorant theories and disastrous policy choices.”

Eric, with all due respect, these are not “ignorant theories.” The ones promoting them know full well that if implemented, their theories will lead to mass starvation. Mass starvation is a feature of their policies, not a bug.
The people promoting this nonsense are not stupid. They are evil psychopaths who know full well exactly what they are doing.

Andy H
September 30, 2022 7:22 am

In modern times we divide the labour and expertise. I do something I am better at and use the magic resource tokens earned (money) to exchange for agricultural products that a farmer has produced. Both of us use out time more productively than if we were each producing a small amount of food each. The system self-regulates to supply and demand, in spite of natural variations in farm production, as long as the communists stay well away.

TonyG
September 30, 2022 7:58 am

Wasn’t the Sri Lankan food catastrophe enough of a lesson

Worldwide mass starvation wouldn’t be enough of a lesson, they’re too caught up in their delusion.

Jim Gorman
September 30, 2022 8:46 am

I don’t think these fools have a clue about how much land and work it is to grow and process enough food to feed themselves for a year. Outside of the tropics, crops don’t grow year round. That means you have to plant enough in the summer to last the other 9 months of the year. How do you preserve this much food at harvest time to last until the next crop? Does anyone remember 40 acres and a mule? Who do these folks think are going to plant, hoe, and harvest their 40 acres of crops?

TonyG
Reply to  Jim Gorman
September 30, 2022 10:09 am

Jim
They don’t. I have seen some claim that they can grow enough to feed a family on a high-rise apartment balcony, and if they farmed the roof they could feed the entire building.

Richard Page
Reply to  TonyG
September 30, 2022 12:30 pm

There are delusions, then there are dangerous delusions. Wish they’d just keep them to themselves!

Ed Zuiderwijk
September 30, 2022 8:54 am

One step closer to mass murder through starvation by the green zealots. When will the point be reached when enough people realise that it is kill or be killed?

John the Econ
September 30, 2022 9:26 am

The real “privilege” today; Living so comfortably and blissfully ignorant and only caring about phony crisis when there are people elsewhere living real ones. Or about to.

DonM
September 30, 2022 9:59 am

“… a movement started in Italy 36 years ago that promotes “good, clean and fair food”

36 years ago they were calling for ‘fair’ food. And, still to this day, we have a hazardous proliferation of discriminatory (maybe even racist) system of rutabaga production & distribution.

It is a sad world when we can’t even get a fair rutabaga.

Fraizer
September 30, 2022 10:18 am

STILL more credible than CAGW.

Mark Matis
October 1, 2022 10:08 am

They yearn for the “good old days” of their Messiahs – Lenin and Stalin – and intend to reprise the Holodomr. On a GLOBAL basis!

niceguy
October 1, 2022 7:23 pm

French former university economy teacher, former univ (vice?) president and elected green politician Sandrine Rousseau say we need less economic productivity less agriculture productivity and less working days.

(Yes, she is our national AOC. Even crazier as she promotes female witches over male engineers. Each and every of her media stunts is nuttier than the previous one. Yikes.)

niceguy
Reply to  niceguy
October 1, 2022 8:21 pm

Fun fact: Sandrine Rousseau was promoted as a joke by Damien Rieu, well known member of the former (now legally dissolved – for troubling the peace or something) Europe borders activist group.

Andy Pattullo
October 2, 2022 9:52 am

Interesting that the elites propose a system of agriculture that could probably only feed the elected and no one else. There won’t be anyone let to sew the crops, tend the fields and harvest the biodynamic, vegan, organic and climate friendly foods as I am sure the elites won’t be getting their hands dirty (except when counting other people’s money).
At any rate, after we are all starving to death we can at least be comforted in knowing the lites will be dropping like the flies they are in no time flat.

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