UN Secretary General António Guterres. Source UN, fair use, low resolution image to identify the subject.

G-7 Climate Roundtable Fail: World Leaders Focussed On Ukraine, Energy Prices

Essay by Eric Worrall

h/t Dr. Willie Soon; Climate change taking a back seat – at a climate change meeting.

Climate takes a back seat to other problems at U.N. meet

BY ZAHRA HIRJI Sep 22, 2022

Between floods that ravaged Pakistan and droughts that parched Europe and China, and innumerable heat waves, the global impact of climate change has become tangible lately. Yet climate hasn’t been at the top of the agenda at the United Nations General Assembly taking place this week in New York City.

World leaders have largely focused their remarks on Russia’s war in Ukraine and soaring energy prices, among other issues. U.S. President Joe Biden began his speech on Wednesday with a harsh condemnation of the Russian invasion before briefly touching on climate change. He touted his administration’s new climate law as a “global game changer,” then he moved on.

But not to the U.N. climate roundtable hosted on Wednesday afternoon by U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres and Egyptian President Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi, as an informal precursor to November’s COP27 climate talks. At least one other G7 leader, French President Emmanuel Macron, also didn’t attend the climate event.

The climate roundtable happened behind closed doors, and afterward Guterres emerged to make a brief public statement in which he described the goal of holding warming temperatures to 1.5 C as “failing fast.” He blamed world leaders for being out of step with the global public on climate. “We have all seen the appalling images from Pakistan, and this is just at 1.2 degrees of global warming and we are heading for over 3 degrees,” he warned. “I told the assembled leaders that we need direction, their leadership now.”

Read more: https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2022/09/22/world/un-climate-change-backburner/

President Macron didn’t bother to attend, and we’re not sure who else didn’t bother to show up. Even President Biden sent mixed signals about attending. Bloomberg reported Biden wasn’t planing to show, but Biden apparently changed his mind, showed up and delivered a speech.

With a washed out buildup like this, I’m really looking forward to reporting on the COP27 meeting.

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Scissor
September 24, 2022 6:12 am

Again, climate change has morphed into bad weather.

Tom Halla
September 24, 2022 6:19 am

The establishment might realize that measures to deal with climate change are worse than what they are trying to prevent.

Scissor
Reply to  Tom Halla
September 24, 2022 6:51 am

They very much want to take care of you.

Steve4192
Reply to  Scissor
September 25, 2022 4:19 am

The 9 most terrrifying words in the English language … “I’m from the government, and I’m here to help”

Dave Fair
Reply to  Steve4192
September 25, 2022 10:39 am

From the Great President Ronald Reagan.

PCman999
Reply to  Tom Halla
September 24, 2022 9:13 pm

They really don’t care about the effects of their “climate laws” on the people they’re supposed to represent – one can tell by the lack of proper cost-benefit analyses done.

All this is just to get the politicians face in the camera with some phony life and death issue that they are going to cure by throwing other people’s money at it, without any thinking involved.

Duane
September 24, 2022 6:23 am

Crude oil price for WTI hit $79 yesterday, lower than before the start of the Russian war on Ukraine, and far lower than the average price during the entire Trump administration. Until the worldwide COVID recession hit in early 2020, the price of crude stayed well above $100 a barrel throughout Trump’s Presidency.

I seem to recall a crap load of stories here at WUWT, and comments too, that the high oil and gas prices this year were all Biden’s fault because of his climate change policies. I commented repeatedly that Presidents have no control over oil and gas prices, that it is the markets – ie supply vs demand – that control oil and gas prices. The vast majority of commenters here hooted me down.

So now I say full-throatedly, “Toldyaso!!!”

So do today’s low prices mean Biden suddenly got religion and became an anti warmunist?

See that’s the trap of crediting or blaming Presidents for stuff they have zero control over. Whether Trump or Biden or any other.

Europe has always had far higher gasoline prices at the pump than here in the US – not due to markets but because they tax the hell out of petrol. But that still has no effect on the price of crude oil or the cost of producing gasoline.

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Frank from NoVA
Reply to  Duane
September 24, 2022 6:40 am

‘Crude oil price for WTI hit $79 yesterday, lower than before the start of the Russian war on Ukraine, and far lower than the average price during the entire Trump administration. Until the worldwide COVID recession hit in early 2020, the price of crude stayed well above $100 a barrel throughout Trump’s Presidency.’

Key word, above, is ‘recession’. Have you ever considered that markets are now pricing in a downturn in business activity that’s going to be even worse than the one brought on by the Deep State’s ‘plandemic’?

Frank from NoVA
Reply to  Frank from NoVA
September 24, 2022 6:47 am

Btw, Duane, I suggest you take another look at whatever crude chart you’re looking at.

Scissor
Reply to  Frank from NoVA
September 24, 2022 7:00 am

He’s lying or misinterpreted the chart, maybe both.

I would give him the benefit of the doubt and allow him to apologize and explain why he was wrong (full-throatedly or otherwise).

MarkW
Reply to  Scissor
September 24, 2022 7:50 am

Duane has a long history of not being good with numbers.
Look at the stuff he dumps on us each time he tries to prove that electric cars are both safe and efficient.

Mac
Reply to  MarkW
September 24, 2022 12:10 pm

Duane has severe TDS as he has indicated numerous times in his posts. We should almost feel sorry for him for this huge preoccupation in his thinking.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Mac
September 25, 2022 10:41 am

I wonder what it feels like to have another person living in one’s head.

Michael in Dublin
Reply to  Frank from NoVA
September 24, 2022 9:27 am
Dave Fair
Reply to  Michael in Dublin
September 25, 2022 10:46 am

Kinda puts a nail in Duane’s unicycle tire.

Retired_Engineer_Jim
Reply to  Frank from NoVA
September 24, 2022 8:49 am

But will the price of gasoline at the pump drop?

Frank from NoVA
Reply to  Retired_Engineer_Jim
September 24, 2022 5:54 pm

Who knows. The only thing that is certain is that under the Biden administration it will be higher than it would be in a free market.

HotScot
Reply to  Duane
September 24, 2022 6:41 am

What you’re saying is that Biden signing all those Executive orders strangling oil exploration and fracking didn’t precipitate a global energy price rise?

My recollection is the price of oil was on an upward trajectory well before Russia intervened in Ukraine.

Old Man Winter
Reply to  HotScot
September 24, 2022 8:35 am

Right on!

The US average gas price b4 Brandon got elected was $2.20. In Jan
22, it was ~$3.30 & by Feb popped to ~$3.40 & eventually peaked
>$5. Now- ~$3.70.

Scissor
Reply to  Duane
September 24, 2022 6:46 am

Duane, why do you use so many words to lie and why do you lie about something that can so easily be checked in the first place? Get with the program.

https://www.macrotrends.net/2516/wti-crude-oil-prices-10-year-daily-chart

Politics very much have an effect on supply, demand and hence price.

MarkW
Reply to  Scissor
September 24, 2022 7:42 am

Duane is desperate to convince people that he didn’t make a mistake when he voted for Biden.

Reply to  MarkW
September 25, 2022 4:00 am

Mark W
“Duane is desperate to convince people that he didn’t make a mistake when he voted for Biden.”

“Duane is desperate to convince Himself that he didn’t make a mistake … ”

And he’s not doing that!

Auto

MarkW
Reply to  Duane
September 24, 2022 7:40 am

I guess that explains why gasoline and electricity prices were so much lower while Trump was in office. Either that, or the world is a lot more complex than you wish it to be.
Get over your hatred of Trump and admit that your boy Biden has been a complete flop.

As to your lies regarding oil prices during the Trump administration
Today’s $79 is still above the highest price during the 4 years of Trump.

https://markets.businessinsider.com/commodities/oil-price?type=wt&op=1

Just eyeballing it, but it looks to me like the average WTI price during the 4 years of Trump was around $45. Not the $100 you claim.

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It doesn't add up...
Reply to  Duane
September 24, 2022 8:02 am

B/S

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Scissor
Reply to  It doesn't add up...
September 24, 2022 8:27 am

Hindsight should be 20/20, but it’s not for Duane.

For me, the question is what lies ahead?

It doesn't add up...
Reply to  Scissor
September 24, 2022 11:08 am

The $100 oil was a feature of the Obama presidencies (hence why I provided the longer chart timespan).

Of course: “Under my plan prices would necessarily skyrocket….”

John Garrett
Reply to  Duane
September 24, 2022 8:10 am

Try to get at least some of your facts right.

Your batting average with that little screed was about .002.

Richard Page
Reply to  John Garrett
September 24, 2022 9:45 am

.002? That’s a rather generous take on his post – I would have put it as a swing and a miss – just 0.

Last edited 2 months ago by Richard Page
Old Man Winter
Reply to  Duane
September 24, 2022 8:17 am

“I commented repeatedly that Presidents have no control over oil and gas
prices, that it is the markets – ie supply vs demand – that control oil
and gas prices”

https://twitter.com/russell_nm/status/1551639280014983168
Nicole Russell:
“But I thought you had nothing to do with gas prices?”

President Biden:
“For American families looking for a little more breathing room, these
savings matter.”

Brandon both agrees & disagrees with you, depending on whether he’s
taking credit for it or blaming others.

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MarkW
Reply to  Old Man Winter
September 24, 2022 10:44 am

What Duane works so hard to ignore, is that presidents have a huge impact on both supply and demand.
Trump removed regulations that restricted exploration and development, resulting in an increase in supply.
Biden on the other hand has done everything in his power to restrict exploration and development, resulting in decreases in supply.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Old Man Winter
September 25, 2022 4:29 am

I read hes talking of topping up the strategic reserve again..again while its high priced, after flooging it to china who least needed it as theyre doing VERY well buying and onselling Russian oil

Jtom
Reply to  Duane
September 24, 2022 8:10 pm

Duane, if you can’t read a simple chart, you really ought to remove yourself from the debate.
https://www.macrotrends.net/1369/crude-oil-price-history-chart

Under Trump, WTI oil barely broke 80 between April and September in 2018. The high was $87. Other than that time period, the price was between $53 and $74.

What Presidents and other leaders say and do most definitely affect how businesses and investors make decisions. Germany now says coal is ok. The UK will now allow fracking. Biden is now begging oil producers to produce more and is selling oil from the strategic reserve. That last little tidbit is directly reducing the cost of gasoline. Add in a recession, caused by governments printing too much money, and this entire package, all laid at the feet of government actions, has caused oil prices to back off.

We all told you so.

PCman999
Reply to  Duane
September 24, 2022 9:57 pm

Well everyone else has brought up the fact that your Trump era info is wrong, but I want to stress that the price of oil starting to drop because traders are expecting a recession is not the sign of effective leadership you think it is.

Biden’s inept interference with oil and gas production has also already been pointed out to you, but I can’t believe that you would think those political roadblocks wouldn’t affect prices.

Obviously everything affects prices, and usually with good reason, amout of supply, demand and how willing/able people are able to pay, necessary proper regulation, etc.

However, when some clown acting like a president creates law by decree and tries to strangle energy production in the vain and insane hope of changing the weather, thereby increasing prices and misery most especially for those who can’t afford it, how is that a good thing?

DonM
Reply to  Duane
September 26, 2022 5:31 pm

Duane,

You ignorant slut….

What was it about the subject post conversation that you so wanted to derail?

tgasloli
September 24, 2022 6:33 am

Given that Europe, the US, Australia, etc., are already actively destroying their economies with “green policies” (even if some are camouflaged as Ukraine policy) is their any need for a Climate Roundtable?

Seems like they achieved their goal.

Stephen Lindsay-Yule
September 24, 2022 7:25 am

Recently earths measurement was close to sun’s energy earth receives.
Since July 4th (sun’s peak TSI 1407w-m²) the sun distance increased.

On Sept 21st it reached 150 million km. TSI on this day was 1349w-m2 increasing by 0.69w/day.

Earth emitted heat was 1352w-m2 decreasing each day.

At a particular time on Sept 22nd (2 days ago) both Solar (TSI) and earth emitted heat was equal.

Currently climate models have earth overheated by 211watts (mean 52.75w-m across the earths sphere). This is due to lack of measurements in the southern hemisphere and a bogus yearly temperature. Therefore, cooling near the polar region not included.

Every extreme weather event is exaggerated in some way. And as for being natural, isn’t really considered due to the bogus global temperature.

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Old Man Winter
September 24, 2022 7:40 am

Brandon’s new word for today:

“There’s a lot more Republicans out there taking credit for the new
bridges and the Bldhyindclapding than actually voted for it.”

https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1573367742744432643

Richard Page
Reply to  Old Man Winter
September 24, 2022 9:50 am

Brings to mind the media circus and endless speculation of Trump’s ‘covfefe’ – wonder if the msm will jump all over this in the same way?
No, of course they won’t!

MarkW
Reply to  Old Man Winter
September 24, 2022 10:49 am

Biden seems to be another one of those socialists who actually believe that nothing happens unless the federal government orders it to happen.
That is, that the only reason why bridges get built is because the federal government passed a bill requiring them to be built.

Regardless, the bill was passed much too recently to be responsible for any current construction. I still remember Obama joking about how he was surprised that there was no such thing as a “shovel ready job”. He thought it was funny how he had caused billions of dollars to be wasted.

Frank from NoVA
Reply to  MarkW
September 24, 2022 5:42 pm

The essence of progressivism (aka fascism, aka socialism) is that if it needs to be done, the government should do it, and if the government doesn’t do it, it shouldn’t be done.

fretslider
September 24, 2022 8:38 am

In my observatory in dingy South London I have been investigating the infamous law of sod.

Given that inaction has led to a shortage of available gas and a huge increase in market price, raising the eat or heat question; what will this winter on the unfashionable North Western spiral fringes of Europe be like?

It looks like it will be colder than usual. My scenario/prediction is that true to the law of sod this will be a brutal winter in Europe.

Scissor
Reply to  fretslider
September 24, 2022 8:57 am

I guess I am a poor sod. Thank you for my daily English lesson.

fretslider
Reply to  Scissor
September 24, 2022 9:32 am

Daily lesson d’anglais?

Sacre bleu!

Richard Page
Reply to  fretslider
September 24, 2022 9:53 am

My brain seems to be misfiring – I first read it as ‘observatory dinghy’ and was thinking ” well, that’s a novelty” before it clicked.
I now want an inflatable boat fitted with telescopes!

fretslider
Reply to  Richard Page
September 24, 2022 11:07 am

You could join Scissor for English lessons…

Richard Page
Reply to  fretslider
September 24, 2022 12:39 pm

Nah just need more coffee before I start reading WUWT!

Dave Fair
Reply to  fretslider
September 25, 2022 10:58 am

Murphy didn’t write Murphy’s Law; it was another man with the same name.

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Andy Pattullo
September 24, 2022 9:26 am

The “climate emergency” appears to be getting exactly the attention it deserves. Seems people care more about security, avoiding hunger, raising living standards, and building a better future than they care about imaginary catastrophes that can’t be measured but only observed in the virtual world of climate modelling. Maybe sense will become even more common as real problems present globally.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Andy Pattullo
September 25, 2022 11:02 am

Its what you get anytime you ignore current problems and go off chasing rainbows.

Tom Abbott
September 24, 2022 10:10 am

From the article: “Between floods that ravaged Pakistan and droughts that parched Europe and China, and innumerable heat waves, the global impact of climate change has become tangible lately.”

No, that’s not what you are seeing. It’s not human-caused climate change, it is just weather. The author is seeing things that are not there.

Tom Abbott
September 24, 2022 10:20 am

From the article: “He blamed world leaders for being out of step with the global public on climate. “We have all seen the appalling images from Pakistan, and this is just at 1.2 degrees of global warming and we are heading for over 3 degrees,” he warned.”

Correction: The Earth is not currently at the 1.2C degree above NASA Climate/NOAA’s average as Guterres implies. The 1.2C occurred at the 2016 highpoint. Currently, the temperaures have cooled by 0.5C from that highpoint, so we currently stand at 0.7C above the average. And we may be heading for more cooling, not warming.

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Here we have the UN Chief exaggerating the situation again. With leaders like these, it’s no wonder we have such dysfunction in the world. They are leading us down the road to destruction.

max
Reply to  Tom Abbott
September 24, 2022 10:58 am

I think you give the politicians too much credit. They say what they believe their advisors want them to say, no matter how hamhandedly.

Shoki Kaneda
September 24, 2022 11:08 am

Perhaps they learned a lesson from Sri Lanka. Push the people hard enough and you may get an undesirable result.

September 24, 2022 3:45 pm

The COP27 meeting will, hopefully, be the last in a long line of futile wastes of everyone’s time.

Dave Fair
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
September 25, 2022 11:05 am

Wishful thinking: There’s too much money involved for too many people to derail it that quickly.

Edward Katz
September 24, 2022 6:13 pm

With all the other real problems that both world leaders and the ordinary consumers have to face, climate change has been relegated to the back burner, where it belongs. People and governments are mainly concerned with inflation, energy security, job prospects, health care, disease control, education opportunities, etc. What might happen to the climate in 2030, 2050, and beyond is of secondary importance, at best, especially when any type of environmental action is likely to lead to higher taxes and a multitude of personal restrictions.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  Edward Katz
September 25, 2022 12:56 pm

“Climate change” should be relegated to the outhouse.

Zane
September 24, 2022 9:35 pm

All these clowns ever do is talk and bank their far too high paychecks.

Peta of Newark
September 25, 2022 1:00 am

The old scrote looks quite animated in that photo – what do we imagine was behind the camera?

(I don’t really wanna know so please don’t burst my bubble. It’s mine I tellya, mine all mine so gerroff and leave it alone)

Dave Fair
Reply to  Peta of Newark
September 25, 2022 11:08 am

Haven’t seen “old scrote” used in a long time. My spell-checker even flagged it. But it does describe the old scrote perfectly.

Rod Evans
September 25, 2022 1:02 am

There are few people less qualified to discuss and debate Climate Change and what causes it, than a bunch of overpaid politicians meeting up at UN HQ in an office that they all flew to. They all had limousines transport them from the airport to the meeting, held once again in a comfortable air conditioned room, before attending a five course dinner, silver service with fine wine and more.
These ‘informed’ politicians manage to conclude, the reason for the ‘Climate Crisis’ is too many people living too comfortably and this must be reduced. As the waiter asks, “cream in your coffee, madam” the delegate realises, her work is too important to leave to the little people.
The delegates then fix the date for next years get together at the UN in their very crowded diaries. The need for a repeat exercise in small talk next year, prior to the main event, i.e. another five course silver service fine wine meal at the UN is so important…

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ozspeaksup
September 25, 2022 4:23 am

good isnt it? reality..what a concept.
right now is a warning about ruining industry via greenscams
if they lob a nuke or two OR we have a couple of hefty volcanos go off , the exact same issues with lack of light power heating transport is the SAME if we are so stupid as to have stuff all reliable fuel/power sources to enable indoor growing of some food and the ability to heat etc

Newminster
September 26, 2022 8:25 am

How many of his own organisation’s surveys does this idiot need? Every one tells him the “global public” don’t give a rat’s ass about climate!

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