Gazprom Releases a Sinister Video Taunting Europe Over Winter Gas Shortages

Essay by Eric Worrall

In the wake of announcing an indefinite shutdown of gas supplies, and massive flaring of gas which could have been sent to Europe, Gazprom has released a video titled “And winter will be big”, which appears to mock Europe’s gas shortage.

The mocking video

The shutdown;

Gazprom shuts down Nord Stream 1 pipeline ‘indefinitely’

Russian state-owned energy giant Gazprom stops all gas flows to Germany, citing maintenance work.

By Smruthi Nadig

Russian state-owned energy corporation Gazprom has indefinitely shut down gas flows through its key Nord Stream 1 pipeline to Germany from 2 September. 

European governments had anticipated the Nord Stream 1 pipeline to operate this week after a brief maintenance period. However, Russia abruptly stopped the flows, citing an oil leak in a turbine. Gazprom stated that until it made all repairs, it would not restart the pipeline.

After Russia’s Gazprom shut down the Nord Stream 1 gas pipeline, intensifying Europe’s energy crisis, Finland and Sweden announced plans to grant billions of dollars in liquidity guarantees to their respective power firms.

Finland intends to offer $14.6bn in liquidity guarantees, while Sweden aims to provide $34bn.

Siemens Energy responded, saying:  “Such leaks do not normally affect the operation of a turbine and can be sealed on site. It is a routine procedure within the scope of maintenance work.

Read more: https://www.offshore-technology.com/news/gazprom-shuts-down-nord-stream-1-pipeline-indefinitely/

I suspect European politicians are hoping Russia is on the brink of collapse, that business as usual will resume in the near future. But how can they be sure?

European politicians and energy brokers demonstrated their incompetence at managing energy supplies in 2021, when they rejected offers of long term contracts, and instead gambled they could pick up cheap gas on the spot market – a gamble they lost, and lost badly. So I have no confidence Europe’s leaders have any idea what they are doing, when it comes to managing the 2022-23 energy crisis.

What are the prospects for Russia surrendering to European demands?

The Russian military might be embarrassing themselves in Ukraine, but I’m skeptical of claims Russia is about to run out of money. Russia is still receiving plenty of money from the West.

For example, Russia is making lots of money from Asian fossil fuel exports. One of the reasons gasoline prices have fallen a little lately in Asia is substantial quantities of cheap Russian oil have returned to the international market, via a massive loophole in the sanctions. The loophole allows substantially modified products to be traded on the international market. Selling Russian crude oil is a sanctions violation, but selling gasoline refined by India and China from Russian crude is apparently OK.

Europe, Britain and Australia have the power to develop sufficient domestic supplies to eliminate our dependence on Russia. The USA experienced a brief moment of energy independence under President Trump, before slumping back into import dependency under President Biden. Our current crop of Western politicians could eliminate dependency on imports, but they are hesitating, refusing to let go of their green energy fantasies, waiting for Putin to go back to being a good lapdog.

They may be in for a longer wait than they bargained on.

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observa
September 6, 2022 6:08 pm
n.n
Reply to  observa
September 6, 2022 6:55 pm

The karmic irony of self-abortion by choice with forward-looking collateral damage.

observa
Reply to  n.n
September 6, 2022 7:27 pm

The trouble with lefties is they always see themselves as the benevolent Utopian leader to the Promised Land whereas inevitably there’s only one smart opportunist Fearless Leader for the useful idiots. Stands to reason with belief in only their one true light and the way to Utopia but lefties lack the reasoning bit and consequently are easy emotional prey.

Graemethecat
Reply to  observa
September 7, 2022 1:50 am

Progressives and Leftists always approach any policy decision as a choice between “Good” (their policies) and “Evil” (the alternatives). They are constitutionally unable to do cost-benefit analysis, nor do they understand trade-offs.

n.n
Reply to  Graemethecat
September 7, 2022 6:54 pm

And compromise with wicked solutions to purportedly hard problems.

RevJay4
Reply to  observa
September 6, 2022 7:21 pm

Amazing how he sorta predicted what was gonna happen. In a lot of areas.
Trump’s common sense and logic were not colored by fantasy, as seems to be the case with the green morons in the EU governments.
Hope they have lots of pixie dust and unicorn farts to keep their citizens warm this winter.

observa
Reply to  RevJay4
September 6, 2022 7:53 pm

A case in point with Stockholm Syndrome-
‘A different Sweden’: Gang shootings loom large in vote (msn.com)
Lefties meant well and now their obvious answer is to defund the police as you do.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  observa
September 7, 2022 4:05 am

going to try and integrate the immigrants
ha ha ha waaay late and they do NOT want to be separated they LIKE their ghettos

Old Man Winter
Reply to  RevJay4
September 6, 2022 9:17 pm

DJT wrote “The Art of the Deal” & handled Little Rocket Man as no
other leader ANYWHERE in this generation could have even come
close to doing. He had already dealt sharply with Vlad in Syria,
having to take out > 100 Russia-allied personnel. So it was quite
obvious to him that Vlad was both unpredictable & untrustworthy,
two very good reasons not to rely on him- 100% accurate! At that
point, the particulars of Vlad’s actions are irrelevant as you would
not have put yourself in a place to have been harmed by him.

I would also separate out Macron from the other liberal Western
leaders as he’s not an idealist but a self-serving Machiavellian & it
shows. Earlier this summer, he made sure his comment to Biden
about the UAE & the Saudis “already being tapped out” was picked
up by the press as that was a fence-straddling move so if things
would fall apart later on, he had an out from being blamed by his
opposition within France. He’s a survivor!

n.n
Reply to  RevJay4
September 7, 2022 6:57 pm

They’re not morons per se, they’re 50 shades of green as in profit and naivety.

KcTaz
Reply to  observa
September 6, 2022 8:28 pm

Yep, also, here with pictures that are, especially, delightful to view at this point in time.
FLASHBACK: Trump Warned UN About Relying On Russian Oil, Was Laughed At By German Delegation
https://bit.ly/3CYJB9o
dailycaller.com
3/7/22

GERMANS LAUGHED WHEN TRUMP WARNED ABOUT RUSSIA*.png
Peta of Newark
Reply to  observa
September 7, 2022 12:35 am

The ironing is epic as that link then links to a/some Twitter accounts that have, just like the gas supply, ‘been suspended’

ha ha ha

Scissor
Reply to  Peta of Newark
September 7, 2022 4:37 am

Wrinkled clothing is becoming more fashionable.

Alan M
Reply to  Scissor
September 7, 2022 5:03 pm

Saves on electricity

Tom Halla
September 6, 2022 6:10 pm

I wonder what the Russian lyrics to the video mean.
This could end up like Sri Lanka.

KcTaz
Reply to  Eric Worrall
September 6, 2022 8:33 pm

Europe, Eric.
Russians will eat well this winter and will not be freezing. They have fertilizer and have not taken millions of acres of farmland out of production, unlike the west. The same cannot be said of Europe, or the US, for that matter.
You do recall the numerous times Biden has warned us of coming food shortages, don’t you?

KcTaz
Reply to  Eric Worrall
September 7, 2022 12:18 am

Thank you for your reply, Eric, and btw, I love reading your articles and often wonder how you manage to produce so many in a short time. You must be a workaholic!  
To respond to your Ukraine statement. I am not at all sure Putin miscalculated anything. Europe’s green fantasies have put them in an especially precarious position and the chickens are coming home to roost.
The US has a leader Putin and Xi could not in their wildest dreams imagine having the great fortune of seeing installed in the White House. I expect they know this is a unique opportunity for them to expand their power and bury the US and now, not ten years from now, is the time to seize the day.
Biden’s idiotic sanctions only hurt the west and do not hurt Putin at all. Biden presented him with a means to take out Europe and the US and Putin took it. To give Putin the means to destroy Europe and greatly harm the US without firing a single shot while taking Ukraine is so breathtakingly stupid one wonders if Biden, or whoever is controlling him, is working with and for Putin. It’s so stupid, it reminds me of this except the ending is quite different.
Blazing Saddles – Nobody move or … https://youtu.be/Z_JOGmXpe5I via @YouTube

Ben Vorlich
Reply to  Eric Worrall
September 7, 2022 3:04 am

Conquering/Invading a country is the easy part. Holding it is what’s tricky. Russia has recent experience in Afghanistan. World history is full of empires that fall, and even more of countries that continually fail to incorporate neighbouring states usually by force either military or economic. When they do succeed there’s a festering resentment.

At best incorporation lasts until times get hard, when nationalist sentiment which had always been there gets stronger.

There’s not a country in Europe, including Russia, without at least one seperatist movement, admittedly some are very, very small. If Ireland becomes united it won’t be any different as an Ulster seperatist movement will start almost immediately

England is still pretty much culturally and linguistically divided into the Heptarchy of Anglo-Saxon England

Buckeyebob
Reply to  Ben Vorlich
September 7, 2022 5:52 am

I think the Scots would differ.

KcTaz
Reply to  Buckeyebob
September 7, 2022 9:33 pm

Buck, I think you are very correct. They most certainly would and, it seems, do. I think the Scotts are some of the dumbest people on the planet but I do appreciate the many Scotts who immigrated to the US over the centuries and have added much to our culture and nation and our Armed Forces.
My theory is that the Scotts with backbone and sense left and created a deficit in the gene pool there. I even find that I have to admire them and their battles with the forerunner of ATF during Prohibition. Those gave us NASCAR!

HotScot
Reply to  Buckeyebob
September 8, 2022 2:24 am

Less than 50%. We had a referendum to establish that fact.

charles nelson
Reply to  Eric Worrall
September 7, 2022 4:04 am

Putin has no intention of ‘conquering’ Ukraine.
He’ll be quite happy to leave them to their own devices after partition.

KcTaz
Reply to  Eric Worrall
September 7, 2022 9:53 pm

I’m enjoying this conversation too KcTaz”
Thank you, Eric. That is very nice of you to say.

Gregory Woods
Reply to  Eric Worrall
September 7, 2022 3:22 am

You are ignoring the Ukie aggression on the Donbass Russian-speaking regions…

KcTaz
Reply to  Eric Worrall
September 7, 2022 9:51 pm

I would have, too, but don’t forget Russia has its own Nazi group, the Wagner Group named after Hitler’s favorite composer. Putin is certainly not in a battle to rid Ukraine of Nazis. 
The US Military has fought Putin’s Wagner group in a number of nations, Syria being one. I understand they are in Ukraine. I suspect they are not fighting the Azov group but I don’t know.
As I keep saying, Russia and Ukraine and this war are complicated as is the history of all of Eastern Europe. I keep thanking my deceased grandparents for having the good sense and bravery to get out of there in 1906 and come to the US. Officially, they are from Austria but they are Croatian. They list Austria on their papers because then Croatia was part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. 
I found that out only recently. It made my head swim as that discovery made history seem much more real and personal. It seems so long ago since there was an Austrian Empire, I had not even thought about it before. I was amazed that my family so recently had been part of something I only read about in history books.

RUSSIAN WAGNER GROUP-NAZIS*.png
MarkW
Reply to  Eric Worrall
September 7, 2022 7:27 am

From some of the stuff I’ve read recently, I’m not sure Putin has 10 years left.

Ruleo
Reply to  MarkW
September 7, 2022 12:06 pm

:rolls eyes:

Drake
Reply to  MarkW
September 7, 2022 1:00 pm

I agree. He held off for 4 years while TRUMP! was in office, he couldn’t wait longer. AND Brandon making the world FF supplies tighten and allowing the opening of GP 2 by his actions his first day in office set Putin in motion.

KcTaz
Reply to  MarkW
September 7, 2022 10:01 pm

I agree, Mark, but that could mean he wants to make his mark for Mother Russia and for History before he dies which is even more dangerous.
Biden is very old and not well, either, but unlike Putin, he’s lost his mind and is suffering from severe dementia. That means he is seriously dangerous as we have seen in his off-the-cuff remarks on world affairs, like his comment on Taiwan and others that the WH staff have to keep walking back.
It is scary but since he’s not in charge, he’s not as dangerous as Putin. However, those controlling him may well be. When one looks at what they are doing to this nation and our military and other things, the people behind Biden are very scary because they are either evil or dumb or both.

Dena
Reply to  Eric Worrall
September 7, 2022 4:10 pm

Ukraine might have come to him willingly

I don’t think that is likely. We have Romanians in our yard who lived under Russian leadership for years and they have no intention of returning to it. Ukraine was nearly wiped out of existence under Stalin so they have not and will not forget what Russian rule is like. They will fight to the last man or woman to keep their freedom. 

KcTaz
Reply to  Dena
September 7, 2022 10:16 pm

Eric, I did think exactly that, too. Now, I think I was wrong and that we are looking at the Ukrainians thinking they would feel like we would in their situation. The more studying I have done, the more I think that’s not the case.
My first inkling that their mentality is not the same as ours is when my son went to Ukraine for a vacation. They were fighting Russia at that time, too, in Crimea or Donbas, I forget which.
My son is very gregarious and never met a stranger. When he returned he told me the Ukrainian people informed him they have no beef with Russia and like Russia. In fact, there has been so much intermarriage between them, that they consider themselves one family. That is why many Ukrainians were shocked when Russia invaded as they consider it as brothers fighting and never thought they would attack their own family so to speak. That made my head spin because I thought they felt like you describe. I was wrong, it seems. 
Not related but the other thing that upset me was my son regretting he didn’t go to the war zone on that trip. As a mother, I certainly didn’t want him anywhere near there. I attribute his desire to do that due to his being a Marine, now separated. Perhaps one has to be a bit nutty to join the Marines in the first place. I had quite enough of him being in a war when he was in Iraq War II. Good grief, no wonder I have gray hair!

Ben Vorlich
Reply to  KcTaz
September 7, 2022 2:42 am

Not sure that the Russian soldiers in Ukraine will fare as well. Perhaps the first Russian soldiers to experience a Russian Winter in the way Napoleon’s Grand Armee and Hilter’s 6th Army did.
But we’ll see on that one.

Drake
Reply to  Ben Vorlich
September 7, 2022 1:01 pm

BUT Hitler and Napoleon both were trying to gain ground. I think Russia will just dig in and wait out the the winter.

Gryunt Monglaar
September 6, 2022 6:26 pm

which appears to mock Europe’s gas shortage

Mocking their self-created energy “shortage”.

Selling Russian crude oil is a sanctions violation, but selling gasoline refined by India and China from Russian crude is apparently OK.

Sanctions are bullshit anyhoo. that’s why everyone in the world who’s not already a US stooge has told them to take their “sanctions” and go screw.

The Russian military might be embarrassing themselves in Ukraine

Sure they are, Captain Fantasy.

davidgmillsatty
Reply to  Gryunt Monglaar
September 6, 2022 6:43 pm

Ukraine has only suffered between 200,000 and 250,000 casualties, about a third of them killed. Russia is shooting 60,000 shells a day and Ukraine nowhere near one tenth of than number.

KcTaz
Reply to  Eric Worrall
September 6, 2022 9:51 pm

Do you know if those soldiers are there voluntarily, or on the orders of their governments? Does that include US soldiers? Thanks.

KcTaz
Reply to  Eric Worrall
September 7, 2022 12:23 am

Do you know if they are active duty, or reserve military going there at the US government’s request or are they separated from the services going of their own volition? I ask because there is a big difference, obviously.

TonyG
Reply to  KcTaz
September 7, 2022 7:39 am

There.are.a.surprising.number.of.US.reserves.and.national.guard.who.contract.out.as.mercenaries..I’ve.met.some.

Reply to  KcTaz
September 7, 2022 12:44 am

Both sides are using mercenaries and special troops. But the main assets apart from war materiel that is being supplied bt the West is combat training.
Ukraine is fighting oddly enough, like the Brtish Army fights. Slowly, without exposing too many men to danger, taking out strictly military targets to degrade supply lines, isolate the enemy, create salients that capture supply line communications – not just ‘ground’ , and always try not to make the civilians your enemy.
The USA has so much more hi tech kit that it is able to do a modern version of blitzkrieg – achive air suprmacy and then go in and smash all of the enemies command and control and then walk in.
Ukraine doesnt have enough to do that, so it is having to ‘box, scientifically’.

Given that the war – sorry – ‘special military operation’ is taking place entirely on Ukrainian soil, and Ukraine speaks fluent Russian, it is impossible for Russia to defend against attacks by – say – special forces landed behind the lines, in small boats.
In addition, there seem to be more or less well organised acts of sabotage happening in Russia itself, in areas which have been prohibited by the USA from attack using HIMARS.
The reason I suspect Ukraine is going after the Kherson region and the Crimea, is that supply lines from Russia to these places transit Ukrainian soil, and thus are legal targets.

The Donbas region is adjacent to Russia. It will be a tougher nut to crack without HIMARS, but ‘special forces’ are a different matter.

Again at least British methodology is to leave no trace behind. What special forces do is operate clandestinely leaving no trace. That adds a psychological component to the actions. And leaves nothing to be used by the enemy as propaganda.

KcTaz
Reply to  Leo Smith
September 7, 2022 10:28 pm

Leo, see the article I posted above in response to Eric. I think you will find it very interesting.

HotScot
Reply to  Leo Smith
September 8, 2022 2:27 am

“The USA has so much more hi tech kit that it is able to do a modern version of blitzkrieg – achive air suprmacy and then go in and smash all of the enemies command and control and then walk in.”

Then get kicked out the country by a bunch of sandal wearing tribesman.

The indignity goes back to Vietnam.

Buckeyebob
Reply to  Eric Worrall
September 7, 2022 5:53 am

Where’s the evidence of this?

KcTaz
Reply to  Buckeyebob
September 7, 2022 10:29 pm

bob, it’s in a lot of places if you look for it. See my response to Eric in this thread for one.

KcTaz
Reply to  Eric Worrall
September 7, 2022 10:26 pm

Eric,
OK, I found this and other information. It appears the US and the UK active duty military, special-ops and CIA have been there since the beginning if this is true and, while I don’t know, of course, it seems well-sourced and very believable.

Stop The Denial: Ukraine Is A Proxy War That Will Lead To Wider World War
https://bit.ly/3vj003P
5/19/22
“…As it turns out, US and European military boots were ALREADY on the ground. Ukraine was a proxy war from the very beginning.”
This goes on to describe how very dangerous this is. I think this author is worth reading and, perhaps, heeding.

markl
Reply to  davidgmillsatty
September 6, 2022 7:22 pm

“Ukraine has only suffered between 200,000 and 250,000 casualties, about a third of them killed.” 83K deaths? Source please.

Reply to  markl
September 7, 2022 12:48 am

Source is the Kremlin’s equivalent to Chemical Ali.
He is a paid Kremlin troll.
Russia is actively gaslighting with thousands of AstroTurfers all over social media.
And, it appears, has a lot of the Western media in its pocket as well.
How much of the Green Blob is, or was, actively financed from the FSB, is an interesting question we may yet find an answer to.

KcTaz
Reply to  Leo Smith
September 7, 2022 10:36 pm

Leo,
I would be shocked if there were not a whole lot of trolls for Ukraine on social media financed by the USA, as well. Social media has become another battleground for State actors and the US Gov. appears to be heavily engaged along with Russia and Ukraine and heaven knows who all else on both sides.

Richard Page
Reply to  davidgmillsatty
September 6, 2022 8:08 pm

Russia is firing 60,000 shells and Ukraine nowhere near 1/10th of that number because Russia has the ammunition to use and Ukraine does not – by all accounts, Ukraine would love to have the ammunition to match Russia but whatever supplies are managing to get through simply aren’t enough. What is telling is that Ukraine deaths vs injured casualty figures are disproportionate; more people are dying as a result of the intense Russian shelling than are being injured. Prior to the invasion, Ukraine had fewer than 200,000 military personnel plus about 50,000 border guards and about 60,000 National Guard militia – if those casualty figures are even close then Ukraine is running short on trained military personnel and some of those casualties will be untrained, armed civilians.

Art Slartibartfast
Reply to  Richard Page
September 6, 2022 10:59 pm

Russia is running out of ammunitions, smart weapons and drones. They have turned to North-Korea for artillery shells, Iran for drones and are unable to get the microchips needed for their smart weapons. Their own industry cannot keep up production, so they are getting desparate. Make no mistake though, even with the shortages, Russia has the capability to keep up this war for a long time.

Reply to  Art Slartibartfast
September 6, 2022 11:15 pm

Russia has already won control of the Donbas region
They have no intention of capturing more than the Russian speaking areas, intending to stop the 2014 to 2022 Donbas civil war. If Russia wanted to control all of Ukraine, they would have destroyed civilian infrastructure and then would have ended up rebuilding it after the war which they can not afford.

Anyone who thinks Russia has not accomplished their goal is delusional. Unfortunately. the Ukrainians in the Donbas states wanted to be independent — about 35% did — and the other 65% wanted to remain under Ukraine. No vote on independence was allowed. Which would have lost 65% to 35%. Instead, a civil war began with 11,000 Ukrainian civilian casualties since 2014. Russia stopped that civil war. But I doubt if the citizens in Donbas are happy with the result. They did not want to be controlled by Russia.

The casualty numbers are complete fabrications

Reply to  Richard Greene
September 7, 2022 12:49 am

Kremlin Troll
If Russia had accomplished its objectives it wouldn’t still be fighting and trumpeting about every little piece of ground it takes.,

Reply to  Leo Smith
September 7, 2022 2:26 am

The Ukrainian military is refusing to quite and taking heavy casualities as a result. The longer they fight the more soldiers are lost. Russia has accomplished it;s goal. The Donbas civil war was ended. If there were additional goals Russia would be destroying civilian infrastructure to end the war quickly. You are delusional.

Remember that it took the US 20 years to officially lose the war in Afghanistan, but the war was actually lost in 2001. We gained control of Kabul and had one large Air Forse base — but we never gained control of the rest of the nation. Bin Laden escaped to Pakistan after the first bunker buster bombs fell in the mountains where he was hiding.

Ruleo
Reply to  Leo Smith
September 7, 2022 12:08 pm

“Everyone that disagrees with me is a Russian bot!”

LOL @ you

KcTaz
Reply to  Leo Smith
September 7, 2022 10:53 pm

Leo,
You do what you want but I don’t think any value is added to any conversation, especially, not one about a subject as complicated and confusing as this by calling someone who disagrees with you a Kremlin troll. Namecalling is what people who are unable to support their opinions with facts do. We see it all the time with CAGW trolls.
I normally appreciate your comments, btw and feel you add value to the conversations on WUWT.

KcTaz
Reply to  Richard Greene
September 7, 2022 12:54 am

Richard, that could be true or not about Donbas citizens. Do we really know?
 I do agree we probably do not have any reliable casualty information and most other information is questionable, too, as far as I can tell.
What I wonder is how Ukraine is going to export anything if Russia gains control of all their accesses to the sea as most of their ports are in formerly Russian areas and areas Russia now has or wants to get.
Of course, I could be wrong about that as I’m no expert on Ukraine’s geography.

Reply to  KcTaz
September 7, 2022 2:30 am

US and UK promised to defend Ukraine in the 1990s They failed to help when Russia took Crimea in 2014. The Donbas Civil War began in 2014. The US and UK did nothing to stop it. 11,000 Ukrainian Russian speaking civilians died, along with 3,000 Ukrainian troops. Ignored by everyone until 2022 when Russia decided to act. Kiev still has electric power and internet access — that city is obviously NOT a Russian target.

You need to study Ukrainian history BEFORE the fog of war in 2022 with propaganda from both sides.

War in Donbas (2014–2022) – Wikipedia

Last edited 2 months ago by Richard Greene
Scissor
Reply to  KcTaz
September 7, 2022 4:50 am

Truth is the first casualty, so they say.

Reply to  Scissor
September 7, 2022 6:49 am

Looking the other way as Cronea was stolen and while a civil war lasted eight years resulted in bigger problems that seem to have hurt everyone involved. Russians, Ukrainians and Ukrainians in the Donbas regions — everyone lost.

Reply to  KcTaz
September 7, 2022 6:46 am

In 2014 the polls showed only about 1/3 of Ukrainians in the Donbas region wanted independence. There could have been a vote then and the Donbas regions would have remained part of Ukraine. No vote allowed started a civil war.

Richard Page
Reply to  KcTaz
September 7, 2022 9:00 am

Putin hasn’t accomplished his goals – he has yet to take Kharkiv and the rest of the Ukraine Black Sea coast – when he controls Sevastopol and Mykolaiv he will have cut Ukraine off from the Black Sea completely, which certainly appears to be one of his goals. Ukraine still has a land border with Poland and, thus, links into the EU – they haven’t used this route for grain export so far because the railways (the preference for bulk land transport) uses different gauges between the 2 countries. Ukraine will be able to export by land if necessary, given some modifications at the Polish border, but would be completely dependant on the EU.

Rusty
Reply to  Richard Greene
September 7, 2022 6:26 am

Russian speaking areas such as Kyiv and Kherson eh? You don’t have a clue.

Why are Ru forces still trying to push west if they have already accomplished their objectives?

In 2 years time when Russia is kicked out you’ll wonder how it happened.

Reply to  Rusty
September 7, 2022 6:50 am

In 2 years time when Russia is kicked out you’ll wonder how it happened.”

You are delusional.
Russia will leave only when they want to leave
They don’t want to leave the Donbas regions and will continue to battle the Ukraine military wherever they are located.

KcTaz
Reply to  Art Slartibartfast
September 7, 2022 12:47 am

That’s odd. I was just reading that it is the US Military who is running out of missiles, bombs etc. because we have so depleted our supplies in giving them to Ukraine. In fact, the article I read said Russia is having no problems producing new weapons because they don’t have to go through all the red tape, bids, etc. that are necessary for the US. I can’t find the article right now, unfortunately. If I do, I’ll post it.

Felix
Reply to  Richard Page
September 7, 2022 5:44 am

And yet the Russians aren’t advancing in any meaningful way. That 10:1 shelling advantage doesn’t make up for incompetence elsewhere.

Rusty
Reply to  Richard Page
September 7, 2022 6:23 am

Russian shelling has dropped off a cliff in the last 6 weeks due to Ukraine destroying ammo dumps and Russia beginning to run out of shells or lose their ability to transport them.

There’s a reason why shells made in 1964 are turning up and why Russia is now turning to North Korea for ammunition.

The Russian dud rate is 35-40%, the NK’s will be worse.

Oh and the Ukrainian casualty figures are way, way off. If they were suffering that badly they couldn’t have gone on the offensive in 2 theatres and made headway like they have in the last few days.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Rusty
September 7, 2022 7:07 am

“The Russian dud rate is 35-40%, the NK’s will be worse.”

I was wondering about that. North Korea will probably sell their oldest weapons first. Seeing as how Putin is desperate.

The U.S. does need to replenish its own stocks of weapons and ammunition due to supplying Ukraine.

Trump said on his first day in office the Defense Secretary came to him and told him the Obama-Biden administration had left the U.S. military critically short of ammunition. Imagine hearing that on your first day.

So it is a question as to whether the Biden administration will improve the weapons/ammunition situation, going by past inaction.

Richard Page
Reply to  Rusty
September 7, 2022 9:18 am

The Ukraine military proudly stated that they would push the Russians back across the border at the beginning of this offensive. Fighting is intense around Kherson but neither side is advancing there at all, despite or because both sides are busy blowing up bridges to prevent the others from outflanking them – once again its bogged down into a war of attrition which plays to Russian strengths. The only place where Ukraine has made any territorial gains is around Kharkiv, which seems to have been an inpromptu attack taking advantage of Russia moving troops from there to reinforce Kherson and even those appear to be fairly limited. I agree with you and Clausewitz on the nature of casualty figures but the reports of running out of trained military personnel and the disproportionate deaths to casualties ratio come direct from reports on the Ukraine frontline – not misinformation or Russian propaganda. My big worry over this is that the Ukraine offensive will bog down quickly, run out of materiel and the Russians will regain the initiative and reverse any gains made by Ukraine. With the US and EU saying they are running low on ammunition to send to Ukraine, it begs the question as to who will run dry first – Russia with it’s own huge armaments industries or Ukraine, dependant on foreign aid and long, vulnerable supply lines?

KcTaz
Reply to  davidgmillsatty
September 6, 2022 8:51 pm

I have come to the conclusion that the wisest thing to do in regard to this war is to not believe anything we are told through official channels. The best course of action is to assume whatever is said is a lie, or erroneous and wait for the truth to come out, someday.
I have, also, come to the conclusion that the Ukrainian people are suffering and dying for a war that did not have to happen and that certain powerful people in the West wanted it to happen for fun, profit, and exactly the energy, fertilizer, and food shortages it has created in the west.  
Have you not noticed how the CAGW brokers have jumped on this to limit essential goods for the “good of the planet,” of course? The timing is, to say the least, Highly suspicious.

“The common enemy of humanity is man. In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. The real enemy then, is humanity itself.”
– Club of Rome, premier environmental think-tank, consultants to the United Nations

Mark BLR
Reply to  KcTaz
September 7, 2022 4:02 am

I have come to the conclusion that the wisest thing to do in regard to this war is to not believe anything we are told through official channels.

Hey ! Me too !

From the Cambridge dictionary :

propaganda (noun, mainly disapproving) : information, ideas, opinions, or images, often only giving one part of an argument, that are broadcast, published, or in some other way spread with the intention of influencing people’s opinions

The following list is from Arthur Ponsonby’s book “Falsehood in War-Time” :
1) We do not want war.
2) The opposite party alone is guilty of war.
3) The enemy is inherently evil and resembles the devil.
4) We defend a noble cause, not our own interests.
5) The enemy commits atrocities on purpose; our mishaps are involuntary.
6) The enemy uses forbidden weapons.
7) We suffer small losses, those of the enemy are enormous.
8) Recognized artists and intellectuals back our cause.
9) Our cause is sacred.
10) All who doubt our propaganda are traitors.

NB : From my (limited) point of view, it looks like Kyiv, Moscow and Washington are following Mr. Ponsonby’s “playbook” to the letter.

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Drake
Reply to  Mark BLR
September 7, 2022 1:29 pm

Brandon’s speech hit most of those points. Just watch a WH press briefing and you will see that playbook.

Scissor
Reply to  KcTaz
September 7, 2022 4:54 am

Ask your doctor if the updated booster, tested on 8 mice, is right for you.

Reply to  davidgmillsatty
September 6, 2022 11:08 pm

Numbers pulled out of a hat or from two feet below the back of the hat

Craig from Oz
Reply to  davidgmillsatty
September 6, 2022 11:14 pm

60,000 shells?

Yes? And? In context this means what exactly?

What are they shelling? My quick and lazy search suggests Russia has something like 2000 to 3000 artillery systems available. So this suggests about 20 to 30 rounds per gun.

That is nuisance fire rates.

Without knowing what they are targeting and why it is difficult to make rational conclusions, but these numbers to no suggest the Russians are doing a lot of attacking.

“Modern” artillery used to fall into two broad categories. Field artillery was the general ‘support the combat’ weapon. In CW division the field artillery was the 25pdr and the 72 guns were there to directly support the infantry. This was done using neutralisation fire where the relatively high rate of fire would put enough ‘bangs’ on an enemy position that they would be ‘neurtralised’ long enough for infantry to move up. It wouldn’t kill a lot of people (unless they were dumb enough to dance around in the open) but force them to take cover during the critical times of the attack.

Larger artillery was used to actually destroy things. An entrenched position typically required bigger guns to destroy. Small shells would only neutralise. Bigger longer ranged weapons were also used to reach out into rear areas and counter battery and interdict (ie fire on a cross road semi regularly to spot transport units using it)

Come Cold War the West moved to larger artillery on the grounds they would not be advancing (where you need neutralising fire to force your victims into the bottom of their trenches) but breaking up Soviet attacks. Big shells to damage things.

What has also happened is that the really big artillery systems have now been replaced with precision guided missiles, so the truly big guns are now rare.

SO… the point still remains, if you are attacking you still use artillery to neutralise defenses while you advance. In current terms you want all those little anti tank missile teams changing their underwear in fear and not calming lining you up from the bushes. To neutralise you need to put a lot of shells on the (suspected) enemy positions for a short intense time while also using other weapons to block any enemy local reinforcements.

And for that I seriously suggest you need to fire a lot more than 30 rounds a day per gun.

So are the Russians capable of doing 60,000 for days on end? Maybe. There are logicists and production questions, but it is not impossible.

However if they are ONLY doing 60,000 a day it really suggests they are no long even attempting to advance.

Also first causality of war is truth, etc etc.

KcTaz
Reply to  Craig from Oz
September 7, 2022 1:01 am

Craig, you seem to know a lot about military things. Can you tell me how Ukraine wins this war without air power? As I understand it, Russia has air power and Ukraine does not. Assuming that’s true, it seems that gives Russia a huge advantage, no?

Art Slartibartfast
Reply to  KcTaz
September 7, 2022 4:58 am

The way I understand it, is that Ukraine has enough ground-to-air defense to keep the Russian airforce from being effective. They are forced to fly at high altitude, making it more difficult to accurately aim at targets. Ukraine is low on military aircraft and therefore cannot gain air superiority either.

Reply to  Art Slartibartfast
September 7, 2022 6:52 am

They use drones

Ruleo
Reply to  Scissor
September 7, 2022 12:11 pm

I hope to god you don’t believe that article…

OH god you might!

Rusty
Reply to  KcTaz
September 7, 2022 6:31 am

Russia doesn’t have air superiority. Ukraine has a reasonably intact air-force bolstered by foreign acquisitions (and are training on F-16 for the future).

What’s more the Russians can’t use their air-force effectively as their kit and training is very poor, which makes them susceptible to Ukrainian air-defence.

Meanwhile Ukrainian Mig-29s are carrying HARM and knocking out Russian radar and air-defence. Not to mention HIMARS hitting the same as well as Russian air bases thus forcing Russian aircraft to fly from Russia itself.

The tables are rapidly turning in the air war.

Richard Page
Reply to  Rusty
September 7, 2022 9:35 am

“The tables are rapidly turning in the air war.” Which has been stated over and over again from the beginning of the invasion and still no evidence that it is the case. Both Ukraine and Russia are making little headway in the air war – neither side has an advantage, Russia has numbers but can’t use them due to Ukraine air defence, Ukraine has high tech weaponry from the US but doesn’t have the numbers to use them effectively. Both sides are losing aircraft and pilots with no real sense of advantage or gain.

Richard Page
Reply to  Craig from Oz
September 7, 2022 9:28 am

Craig from Oz, ; a lovely account and so completely at odds with the truth – you must play a lot of war ‘simulation’ computer games. During WW2 the biggest source of casualties on the battlefield was artillery fire – this is still the case and Russian tactical doctrine since WW2 has emphasized the use of sustained artillery fire for offensive and defensive use, as well as coordinated target supression. Frontline reports from Ukraine have shown that they are losing huge numbers of troops to the intense Russian shelling and cannot return much of that fire due to lack of ammunition.

Reply to  davidgmillsatty
September 7, 2022 12:28 am

Beware paid Kremlin propaganda Trolls.

1/. Those are Russian casualty figures, not Ukrainian.
2/. Ukrainians dont have to fire off shells, They have drones, MANPADS and HIMARS that manage to hit miltary targets, not civilians.
3/. A daring opinion poll revealed total lack of support for this war in Russia.
4/. Putin has clearly stated he wants all of Eastern Europe back – he will not stop unless he is stopped. Despite the pain, the West has no option but to continue as it is doing.

In a way, this may actually turn out well for the West. A destroyed Putin and a neutered Russia will no longer be able to finance the great cultural wars that manifest as ‘woke’ ‘green’ and anti-common sense ‘movements’.

A destroyed ‘renewable’ grid that in reality runs off gas, will once and for all put pay to this renewable nonsense.

Fossil fuel in Europe has had its day sadly – only Russia has a lot left – leaving nuclear power as the only viable alternative.

But shorn of ideological ‘renewable’ nonsense, a sane timescale to move as much as possible to nuclear, as fast as possible, can be mapped out.

Putin is in the end forcing the West towards pragmatism, and away from the emotional idealism that has hampered it.

And as far as the war goes – well the first major counteroffensive by Ukraine is under way.

Everything North of the Dnieper river in the south is up for grabs, It’s isolated, its commanders have fled, aircraft have been withdrawn, and in fact the satellite images show very few shells landing on the Ukrainian side of the front line.
Ukraine is naturally not making any claims at all. It is trying to operate in secrecy.
But a good interpretaion can be found on youtive nore or less daily from Denys Davydov, who uses such information as is available, to map – with suitable caveats – the war’s progress. Including when Ukraine loses territory.

And an analysis of the economic and materiel supply side from US based Jake Broe also has merit – he uses snippets of information to deduce how many stockpiled weapons the West has, and the answer is ‘enough’.

And as far as shells go, would anyone trust shells supplied by North Korea? Now Russia’s favourite supplier.

Reply to  Leo Smith
September 7, 2022 2:33 am

A clueless comment

Gregory Woods
Reply to  Leo Smith
September 7, 2022 3:29 am

“Putin has clearly stated he wants all of Eastern Europe back – he will not stop unless he is stopped. Despite the pain, the West has no option but to continue as it is doing.”
Citations?

Reply to  Gregory Woods
September 7, 2022 6:52 am

Politicians make ridiculous claims all the time
Putin does not appear to be very healthy.
Maybe this is his dying wish?
Talk is cheap.
Especially among politicians!

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Tom Abbott
Reply to  Leo Smith
September 7, 2022 7:30 am

“Despite the pain, the West has no option but to continue as it is doing.”

I agree. Along with a majority of the American people, Tucker.

John VC
Reply to  Leo Smith
September 7, 2022 9:03 am

Yep, and also beware of those pentagon/NATO propaganda trolls

Ruleo
Reply to  John VC
September 7, 2022 12:12 pm

U.S. State Department working overtime in this comment section propping up Ukraine.

Rusty
Reply to  davidgmillsatty
September 7, 2022 6:19 am

Are you including civilians casualties in those figures, because if not you are out by a minimum factor of 4 when it comes to kia.

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MarkW
Reply to  Gryunt Monglaar
September 6, 2022 7:06 pm

Putin shills are getting angrier.

Frank from NoVA
Reply to  MarkW
September 6, 2022 7:53 pm

Why do you think the Biden regime’s foreign policy is any better than its energy policy?  Or any other of its policies for that matter?

Frank from NoVA
Reply to  Eric Worrall
September 6, 2022 8:13 pm

With all due respect Eric, we have / had our soldiers in a lot of countries.  And we would have had them in Canada and Mexico if either of these countries had cozied up to the Warsaw Pact back in the day, while shelling ethnic Americans.

Chris Hanley
Reply to  Eric Worrall
September 6, 2022 9:09 pm

Russian revanchism, the Russian Empire had acquired all of what is now Ukraine by the late 1700s earlier than the US acquire large parts of the south west including Texas from Mexico.

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DMacKenzie
Reply to  Chris Hanley
September 7, 2022 9:51 am

Except it’s questionable whether the Habsburgs had the authority to “sell” it…quite similar to whether Russia had the right to “sell” the West Coast of British Columbia to the US during the Alaska purchase.

Frank from NoVA
Reply to  Eric Worrall
September 7, 2022 5:39 am

‘But now he is attacking people who don’t want to be part of Russia.’

I can accept that. And just to clarify, I think the only way out of this mess is for real negotiations to take place around Ukraine neutrality, the end of US / EU economic sanctions and Russian withdrawl.

The current situation reminds me of September, 1914 – – everyone thinks they’re going to be ‘home by Christmas’ but it’s not going to happen if Biden’s deep state apparatchiks keep trying to roll the Russians.

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Reply to  Eric Worrall
September 7, 2022 6:55 am

It was not okay to seize Crimea
The US and UK had promised to defend Ukraine
What’s wrong with us.
We let a dictator get away with Crimea
That was a big mistake.

Drake
Reply to  Richard Greene
September 7, 2022 1:40 pm

We let a dictator get away with Crimea

Us, the US? We elected Obama who did not meet the US obligation agreed to by Clinton.

Now we elected Brandon, with the interference of China (the China virus) and US oligarchs, so the new advance.

What a mess.

Craig from Oz
Reply to  Frank from NoVA
September 6, 2022 10:34 pm

Pragmatically apart from the logistics complications it is always better to fight your ‘enemies’ in another country.

If you win? ya
If you lose? you have somewhere to pull out of that isn’t your land
If you destroy countless buildings? Well… at least they are not yours.

Pragmatically speaking.

Ethics is another topic.

KcTaz
Reply to  Craig from Oz
September 7, 2022 1:03 am

Can’t argue with that as it makes perfect sense. 

Reply to  Craig from Oz
September 7, 2022 1:44 am

Thank you for introducing the concept of ethics into the subject of war. Now I don’t have to point out that ethics is but honour amongst thieves.
Morals, now morals may drive you to do something about your neighbourhood being pilfered by honourable thieves of the highest ethics, such a the Bolsheviks violently overturning the popular majority government of the Ukraine between 2008 and 2014, culminating in Nuland, Kerry and co actually leading the revolution from behind megaphones on the streets of Kiev.
…and these words will now disappear forever…

Scissor
Reply to  Frank from NoVA
September 7, 2022 5:07 am

Supposedly, the U.S. has 750 foreign military bases spread over 80 countries.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Scissor
September 7, 2022 7:35 am

There are a lot of bad guys out there that need to be dealt with.

Ruleo
Reply to  Tom Abbott
September 7, 2022 12:15 pm

Maybe if we didn’t CREATE those bad guys. You do understand we created the Taliban, Al Quada, ISIS and turned Iran into a terror state?

Drake
Reply to  Scissor
September 7, 2022 1:44 pm

And TRUMP! was beginning to plan for the removal of MOST of those troops, against a Pentagon who was fighting by propaganda and obstruction, to keep it from happening,

He had already started moving troops around in Europe, from the countries who would not meet their NATO obligations to those who would.

AND the deep state made sure the end to Afghanistan did not happen under TRUMP!, but supported the disgusting end under Brandon.

KcTaz
Reply to  Eric Worrall
September 6, 2022 9:35 pm

I was a supporter in the beginning. Now, I’m not sure of anything.
The US has been meddling in Ukraine for a long time and has been a significant contributor to its renowned corruption, along with others from many countries, including Russia. It has been nothing but a piggy bank for corrupt government officials, including the Bidens, and oligarchs everywhere for quite some time.
The US had been without new wars since Trump came into office. Those on both sides of the aisle had a long drought and Trump, also, was investigating corruption in Ukraine which had many big players, in and out of government, very worried.
Zelensky stopped negotiations with Russia back in March, I think it was. Why? 
Why, if we were going to get involved in this war, did we not give Ukraine air power? Has a nation without air power ever won a war against one who has it?
Why didn’t we get all the US Biolabs out of Ukraine when war became a real possibility? There’s enough in those labs to kill millions and, possibly billions.
No, I can’t stand Putin but his people do have energy and food and will continue to do so when the West doesn’t. So will China and even India who refused to play the war game.
I don’t know what is going on but I do know something is just very wrong with this picture. 
After all the senseless, useless but expensive wars we’ve been in since WWII, all of which we lost, except for the one with No Korea which was a draw, I am now very skeptical of our wars.
Our son is a USMC combat veteran of Iraq War II. We are very proud of him and relieved that he came back with only a 20% disability, but he did come back. Others were not so fortunate. That had a way of focusing the mind.
I spent months waiting for two uniformed Marines to show up at my door. Thankfully, it didn’t happen but I will never again take any war lightly, nor believe anything about our wars, or others we support without good, hard evidence and we don’t have that for Ukraine. Getting into a war with a nuclear power that has more nukes than we do does not seem like the best of ideas.
I respect the opinions of those who may disagree with me. I used to agree with you. This is a terrible tragedy but it has the very real possibility of becoming the worst tragedy Mankind has ever experienced. Is it worth it? Are we supporting good guys or crooks? Do we know?
Ukraine – a modern tragedy in seven acts
https://bit.ly/3Io4v2n  
3/28/22
conservativewoman.co.uk
Act One: A Benighted Country 
Following the break-up of the Soviet Union in 1991, Ukraine becomes an independent state. However, corruption is rife. As late as 2008, the combined wealth of Ukraine’s 50 richest oligarchs was equal to 85 per cent of Ukraine’s GDP, and despite the country’s mineral and agricultural wealth the standard of living for most Ukrainians is very low.
Because of its location and natural resources, the political direction of the country immediately becomes the principle point of contention between the US and Russia…

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Scissor
Reply to  KcTaz
September 7, 2022 11:00 am

Lots of questions.

MarkW
Reply to  Frank from NoVA
September 7, 2022 7:39 am

One doesn’t have to support Biden in order to oppose Putin’s aggression.

Frank from NoVA
Reply to  MarkW
September 7, 2022 8:49 am

I oppose both ‘Biden’s’ policies and Putin’s invasion of Ukraine.  The problem is that the former created the conditions that caused and/or gave cover to the latter.

KcTaz
Reply to  MarkW
September 7, 2022 8:48 pm

What I meant is that I used to support the war after Russia invaded. I have never supported Biden. The two are not synonymous, at least, not to me. 

Craig from Oz
Reply to  Gryunt Monglaar
September 6, 2022 10:49 pm

Imagine losing to Captain Fantasy. Wow. Hate to be that person.

I think we can safely agree that Russia is (was?) one of the top military powers in the world.

I think we can also safely agree that Ukraine is (was?) a small country in Europe (expert advice there, see what I did? 😛 ) which was not remotely viewed as a major military power.

Remember, Russia decided to invade a smaller country called Ukraine so basically that’s wrong. (expert advice again… 😛 )

Since then they have failed to bring the smaller military power of Ukraine to their will. They is the point of military force. Do what I say or else I will kick your teeth in. You are bringing your opponent to YOUR will. Or, in the Russian case, not bringing Ukraine to your will.

This, in military terms, is failure. Russia has FAILED to successfully deploy their military in order to bring their will to bare over Ukraine.

L plus ratio.

HOWEVER, the more important question is does Russia feel embarrassed by their military failure?

And… not really.

Remember that Russia/Soviets have had a long history of being embarrassed by their military with the notable exception of that little 1941 to 1945 conflict they were part of against Time Magazine’s Man of the Year. (and even then there are arguments they were only successful because of Western help… or not… the arguments exist, okay, even if you disagree with them)

So as alien as it might be to our ‘1st World’ mindsets, Russia culturally may just not care they never (exception above) win any wars.

KcTaz
Reply to  Craig from Oz
September 7, 2022 1:07 am

Craig, the US hasn’t won any wars, either, since WWII, have we? Iraq War I was hardly a war, I don’t think. So have we won any? Do we care? It doesn’t seem like we do since we keep doing the same stupid things over and over again.

Scissor
Reply to  KcTaz
September 7, 2022 5:10 am

Grenada for one. The dollar is still the world’s reserve currency.

KcTaz
Reply to  Scissor
September 7, 2022 9:03 pm

Funny story. One of my brothers was a Navy Chief, mostly on aircraft carriers. He retired and went to work for a company repairing computers on board Navy ships. He was on one headed from the US to Spain when it suddenly took a right turn and headed south, to Grenada for that war. His wife opined she thought worrying about his war days was over!

KcTaz
Reply to  Scissor
September 7, 2022 9:05 pm

Scissor, the US Military, and Command didn’t exactly cover themselves with glory in the invasion. 
US Invasion of Grenada- Successes and Failures
https://www.warhistoryonline.com/history/us-invasion-of-grenada.html?safari=1
Sep 13, 2018

…The invasion continued on multiple fronts and on 27 October there was very little resistance left to overcome. The 325th Infantry Regiment did another sweep of Grand Anse and discovered another group of twenty U.S. students they had missed the previous day.
In the town of Ruth Howard, U.S. troops encountered Grenadian resistance and called in an airstrike, but the shots accidentally hit the command post of the 2nd Brigade, wounding 17 soldiers and killing one.
Meanwhile, as the 2nd Battalion of the 75th Ranger Regiment prepared to make an air assault to crush the final wave of Grenadian soldiers at the Calivigny Barracks, which was just over 3 miles from the Point Salines airfield, one of the helicopters approached too fast and crashed into two other choppers, wounding four soldiers and killing three.
…The U.S. suffered 125 total casualties, of which 19 were killed and 106 were injured. After the operation, the U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) adopted the Goldwater-Nicholas Act which reworked the command structure of the U.S. military, thereby making some of the most important changes to the DoD since its establishment in the National Security Act of 1947.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  KcTaz
September 7, 2022 7:45 am

You should care whether your military is capable of defending you or not.

The facts are the United States military is perfectly capable of defending the United States and its allies.

It is the Leftwing Politicians in the United States who are incapable of defending the United States, whenever they get in office, and do stupid things like prematurely forcing the withdrawal of U.S. troops from South Vietnam and Iraq and Afganistan, subsequently causing the death and displacement of tens of millions of innocent people.

You should care whether the Democrats are capable of defending you or not. Unfortunately, they are not. They have proven it on a number of occasions, the Afghanistan debacle being the latest.

Don’t vote for Democrats if you value your freedoms.

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Ruleo
Reply to  Tom Abbott
September 7, 2022 12:16 pm

“The facts are the United States military is perfectly capable of defending the United States and its allies.”

You must not be paying attention to what’s been going on with our military the last 10 years. Wow.

Disputin
Reply to  Craig from Oz
September 7, 2022 4:36 am

Just a small point – “I think we can also safely agree that Ukraine is (was?) a small country in Europe” – Have you looked at an atlas?

Richard Page
Reply to  Craig from Oz
September 7, 2022 9:42 am

Putin hasn’t mobilized the Russian military – he’s mobilised a small, limited amount and the Internal forces – equivalent of the US National Guard. He’s attempting to do this invasion ‘on the cheap’ and is paying the price. It might be a different matter if he ever does call a general mobilisation in Russia, though, but I can’t imagine what would trigger a move like that.

Jeff L
September 6, 2022 6:40 pm

Maybe a cold winter is exactly what Europe needs to start thinking and stop “feeling “ when it comes to energy policy.
Physics doesn’t care how you feel !

Bruce
Reply to  Jeff L
September 6, 2022 6:47 pm

Feeling cold is painful. When the pain from cold stops, you are dead.

Pat from kerbob
Reply to  Bruce
September 6, 2022 8:10 pm

Right before that you feel warm.
Then you die

A successful green transition.

Deacon
September 6, 2022 6:43 pm

exactly how did Germany shutting down the nuclear generators in order to import more natural gas from Russia make them more “GREEN” ??
The idiotic decision can only lead one to wonder….who got the PAYOFF?

rbabcock
Reply to  Deacon
September 6, 2022 6:50 pm

As our dear leader Fauci said, “Follow the science.”  Unfortunately the science follows the money. 
If Europe gets the winter everyone is hoping won’t come, next April is going to be very interesting.  Biden’s energy plan (of squashing O&G production) only goes to the November elections and after that, there is no plan.  Enjoy the fall warmth while you can.

n.n
Reply to  Deacon
September 6, 2022 6:58 pm

They are Green as in environmental blight, as in renewable profits, not green as in ecologically friendly.

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Davidf
Reply to  Deacon
September 6, 2022 7:24 pm

That would be former Chancellor Gerhard Schroder, who joined the board of Gazprom. And others too, no doubt. However, lets not minimise the efforts of the Green lunatics, and their political sabotage of a perfectly good electricity generation system. With the able assistance of cynical political opportunists, who used them as a path to power.

Reply to  Davidf
September 7, 2022 12:55 am

You have missed the links between Gazprom and the Greens.
Right back then Al Gore was working for a gas company..

Reply to  Deacon
September 7, 2022 12:54 am

German Greens are the FSBs AgitProp wing

German greens hate fracking and nuclear – two threats to Gazprom – and love windmills and solar panels – that can’t, we now discover, run without gas backup.

Cui Bono?

Go figure

John Garrett
September 6, 2022 6:49 pm

The attempt to embargo Russian crude is only going to enrich bad actors. The arbitrage between Russian petroleum and world marker prices is so fat that it can’t be ignored.

Petroleum is a fungible commodity. Straw purchasers and transhipments are already being used to circumvent sanctions.

The birdbrained Janet Yellen (who you can thank for the current raging inflation) was the worst Federal Reserve chair in its history. She’s more than a quart low. Only someone as incompetent as Yellen could come up with the truly zany idea of trying to “cap” Russian hydrocarbon prices. Good luck with that!

Frank from NoVA
Reply to  John Garrett
September 6, 2022 8:26 pm

‘She’s more than a quart low.’

She’s bottomed out and the oil pan is cracked wide open.

September 6, 2022 6:51 pm

Meanwhile Germany is still going to shut down 6 nuclear reactors with a total of 8MW net capacity. That is 3 were shut down end of 2021, the other end of 2022. Together they provide(d) around 12% of Germany’s electricity..

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_Kernreaktoren_in_Deutschland#Kernkraftwerke

CD in Wisconsin
Reply to  E. Schaffer
September 6, 2022 8:03 pm

Germany seems hellbent on self-destruction much the same as it was 80+ years ago. The ideological mindset they are following may be different this time. But as ABBA says in their hit song “Waterloo,” the history book on the shelf is always repeating itself.

KcTaz
Reply to  E. Schaffer
September 6, 2022 9:44 pm

There is deep irony in Germany shutting down nuclear reactors because Japan’s reactor suffered damage from a tsunami given that it is impossible for Germany to experience a tsunami and the fact that no one died from radiation except, maybe a few of the workers at the plant. It’s almost like she was looking for an excuse to do what she wanted to do anyway. Why leaders there want to shut down more is baffling.

Reply to  KcTaz
September 7, 2022 12:58 am

Who is paying the EU pipers and the Greens?
Cui Bono
Follow the money.
We may have thought the cold war was over. but Putin didn’t.

Scissor
Reply to  Leo Smith
September 7, 2022 5:13 am

A search for truth in science is more likely to find money.

Reply to  E. Schaffer
September 7, 2022 12:57 am

That may not happen. As with the UK and coal,plans are being made to keep them open if possible.

n.n
September 6, 2022 6:52 pm

Fall follows the eight-year-old Slavic Spring of climate change forced by coups without borders, deprecation of deplorables, irrational sanctions with redistributive change, exacerbated by Green deals.

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KcTaz
Reply to  n.n
September 6, 2022 9:57 pm

I was just thinking about that.
Are we soon going to be looking at 1930s Germany again? We know how that ended and it wasn’t pretty for Germany, or the world. If feels like we’re heading into a situation, again, that will lead to the rise of a dictator of some sort but not a benevolent dictator, for sure, and not just in Germany this time. When people become desperate, they go for those who promise to solve all their problems and how that’s done and what the consequences will be are not considered by desperate people. We’ve seen this play before.

Intelligent Dasein
September 6, 2022 6:56 pm

The Russian military is not embarrassing themselves in Ukraine. They are absolutely dominating it and defeating the collective West decisively. Russia is beating the West on every front – militarily, economically, and culturally.

Reply to  Eric Worrall
September 6, 2022 11:17 pm

Russia is not interested in, or trying to capture, Kiev
That is very obvious
Your comment is stupid.

Reply to  Richard Greene
September 7, 2022 1:02 am

Yeah, right, and Russia has Unicorns and pigs in the air fart bombing the Ukrainians.
First rule of dealing with Russia,. It is all lies and it’s all propaganda.
Ergo we may conclude that what your statement means is that the Kremlin is brown panting itself and really would like to stop now and retain the Donbas, and Crimea at least – which is where the oil gas and coal is .

Metaphors about sowing the wind spring to mind.

Reply to  Leo Smith
September 7, 2022 6:38 am

Russia now controls Donbas region and Crimea. Ukrainians have lost those regions but are still fighting as if they can win without an air force. Just piling up casualties until there are no soldiers left. Ukrainians should assassinate Zelensky and give up. There is no sense in continuing a battle when you are losing and can’t win.

Russia doesn’t want the rest of Ukraine. But they will attack the Ukraine military hiding in cities in the clean-up effort to protect their new Donbas territory. The Donbas separatists never wanted to be part of RUSSIA
Ukraine has lost the Donbas battle but will continue to fight until they have to give up. That policy is insane.

If the US and UK HAD HELPED DEFEND UKRAINE AS THEY PROMISED INTHE 1990’s THIS MESS WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED.

THE DONBAS Civil War lasted eight years before Russia intervened. THAT WAS EIGHT YEARS FOR THE US AND UK TO TRY TO STOP IT. They did nothing as Ukrainian’s killed each other. Just like they did nothing when Russia seized Crimea in 2014. Meaning US and UK defense of Ukraine promises were worthless.

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MarkW
Reply to  Richard Greene
September 7, 2022 7:56 am

If they don’t want to capture it, why did they try so hard to capture it?

Drake
Reply to  MarkW
September 8, 2022 7:06 pm

And failed then withdrew then moved south.

History, even recent history (less than 8 month ago), is important to remember.

I thing Richard forgot, or it just doesn’t fit his “perception” of the war.

Joe Gordon
Reply to  Intelligent Dasein
September 6, 2022 8:10 pm

From one of the world’s superpowers to a mediocrity that can’t even take the capital of the country with the world’s 55th-ranked GDP (Iraq is 47th). Yeah, not embarrassing themselves. Just doing tons of damage, killing thousands of innocent people. More than six months of this, and they have a little bit more land, covered with their shells.

And if the western world weren’t so bent upon self-destruction through unreliable energy, Putin wouldn’t even have gotten this far.

Yeah. they’re going to be renaming St. Petersburg to Putingrad any day now…

Reply to  Joe Gordon
September 6, 2022 11:20 pm

Did it ever occur to you that Russia had no intention of capturing Ukraine? Their goal was stopping the civil war in Donbas. They have done that. They continue fighting only because the Ukraine military doesn’t know they have lost the battle. This was not a war. It was a battle for the Donbas region. You have no idea what you are talking about.

John Boland
Reply to  Richard Greene
September 7, 2022 6:54 am

Agree. The convoy going to Kiev was a decoy composed of Cold War era vehicles. It would make no sense to start an invasion without first knocking out the power and communication, which they did not do. It’s all about Donbas and at the same time sending a message to NATO.

MarkW
Reply to  Richard Greene
September 7, 2022 7:59 am

We’ve always been at war with EastAsia.
What will Putin telling you to proclaim next week?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Richard Greene
September 7, 2022 11:04 am

“Did it ever occur to you that Russia had no intention of capturing Ukraine?”

Did Putin ever say he had no intention of capturing Ukriane? I don’t recall him ever saying that.

Lrp
Reply to  Richard Greene
September 7, 2022 11:43 am

You are a liar!

Smart Rock
Reply to  Richard Greene
September 7, 2022 1:17 pm

Certain commenters here seem to be under the impression that they know exactly what the Kremlin has planned and what it has achieved.

Pardon me while I collapse in a bout of hysterical laughter.

MarkW
Reply to  Intelligent Dasein
September 7, 2022 7:56 am

Based on the Russian propaganda, the Ukraine should have fallen in a matter of days, 2 weeks at the outside.
The fact that the Ukraine hasn’t fallen after several months, is a definite embarrassment to the Russian military.
Economically? Are you utterly delusional?
Culturally? When was the last time you watched a Russian made movie?

Drake
Reply to  MarkW
September 8, 2022 7:09 pm

MarkW.

Movies, a BAD example at this point of woke Hollywood.

Bob
September 6, 2022 7:04 pm

I honestly don’t understand how these horrible European leaders have stayed in office so long. It is well past the point that everyone, even the least of them, can see that it is their own leadership screwing them. Wake up you lemmings, that goes for the US also.

KcTaz
Reply to  Bob
September 6, 2022 10:02 pm

“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” – H.L. Mencken
Menchke’s prediction has come true. He was only wrong in not including the rest of the Free World in it.

Lark
Reply to  KcTaz
September 7, 2022 8:36 pm

Mencken looked down on the plain folks — the sort of people that voted for Reagan and Trump. This led him into some amusing sarcasm that turned out to be even stupider than he thought they were. For example, it is not the plain folks who have their heart’s desire installed in the White House.

Drake
Reply to  Lark
September 8, 2022 7:13 pm

H.L Mencken was a Democrat through and through. He hated Jews, plain folks and “Negros”.

The funny thing about a lot of his quotes is that they PRIMARILY apply to Democrats.

Reply to  Bob
September 7, 2022 1:06 am

These horrible European leaders are not elected by normal democratic process.
Since the UK voted to leave the EU, three leaders have been sacked or resigned. And that will keep happening till a decent one is found.

That is a record that no other democracy can boast of.

markl
September 6, 2022 7:28 pm

The Marxists have played their hand well to control energy but they don’t have the deep pockets to sustain their bets or go all in. That’s why they want to eliminate Capitalism and use that money to finance their ideology. Only Democracy can stop them.

KcTaz
September 6, 2022 8:15 pm

It would appear Russia is telling Europe, “Do stupid things, win stupid prizes.”
These sanctions have been as stupid and ineffective as “renewable” energy has been. They have not hurt Putin one bit. They’ve only hurt every nation that went along with Biden’s sanctions.
Russia, is also, selling fuel to China which then resells it at higher prices on the world market. Russia is rolling in the dough since the sanctions. The only ones hurt are the European and UK citizens who will face serious hardship this winter as they freeze and we Americans as we face higher prices for gasoline, gas, and electricity for the same reasons.
It takes a real idiot and a moron to impose sanctions on a nation when said sanctions only hurt everyone else, not the nation they were meant to hurt. OK, a real idiot and moron did do this but what does that say about European and the UK leaders who are not suffering from dementia who went along with this lunacy?
At first, I was miffed when India refused to go along with Biden’s sanctions. Now, they look like they have very smart leaders who were not going to sacrifice the well-being of their people on the altar of “get Putin.” 
How are we supposed to pay for the billions of dollars in weapons we are sending to Ukraine, the majority of which never end up there per multiple reports, and pay sky-high fuel and food prices, or is it just that those in charge don’t care?

J. R.
Reply to  KcTaz
September 6, 2022 10:17 pm

I finally concluded, not that many years ago, that Democrats simply don’t care about the consequences of their policies.  The one and only thing they care about is pushing their ideology on everyone else, no matter the cost.  Then I realized this is true of all leftists.  Communists, socialists, dictators of all kinds, they cause the people to live in misery and the elites to live in luxury.  They like it that way.  I’m convinced that the U.S. Constitution is the only document that looks straight at this situation and says, “NO!”

Doonman
Reply to  J. R.
September 7, 2022 12:17 am

The purpose of the US constitution is self evident in the preamble.
The reason for the US constitution is self evident in the Declaration of Independence.

Reply to  KcTaz
September 7, 2022 1:07 am

The fact that you are here, posting that, shows that Putin is hurting very badly indeed.

J. R.
September 6, 2022 8:44 pm

I wonder if the self-inflicted energy crisis in Europe, and the subsequent needless deaths that will ensue from it this winter, will cause the Europeans to finally wake up from the climate change cult and ditch all the green energy nonsense. I can hope so, but I fear it won’t happen.

Reply to  Eric Worrall
September 7, 2022 6:29 am

When has a leftist EVER admitted to being wrong?

MarkW
Reply to  Eric Worrall
September 7, 2022 8:03 am

The left is driven as much by hatred of others as anything else.
So long as they believe that those they hate are being hurt more than they are, they are willing to put up with a lot.

Reply to  J. R.
September 7, 2022 1:13 am

It is already happening.

As you all know, I follow nuclear power in the trade press. A lot of people are now muttering ‘should have gone nuclear’ . Japan is restarting all its nukes. Germany is talking about not closing its own. France has reversed its policy from phasing out nuclear to actively developing more, and so it seems are the Swiss.

In the UK as of yesterday Jacob Rees-Mogg is now in charge of energy policy. Green/Left heads are exploding as he is a well known ‘climate denier’, Britain is – whilst still pouring billions into obsolete wind farms – pouring millions into new nuclear.

Suddenly no one seems to care if men can have vaginas, or not.

Cherith
September 6, 2022 11:23 pm

Yawn. Ignorant Russophobia propogated. Let’s keep pretending the war with Russia by the wrst never started 8 years ago or more with 14,000 dead in Donbass to show for it. Let’s pretend the whole of the western world hasn’t inflicted a level of hitherto unknown sanctions on Russia. Let’s pretend that it is a war between evil Russia and righteous Nazi Ukraine rather than a proxy war by globalists seeking to destroy Russia because they will not submit to their globalist domination. No, let’s be brave and acknowledge the truth. God bless Russia and give her good success in Ukraine. And anyone who thinks Russia is losing is not paying attention.

Reply to  Eric Worrall
September 7, 2022 2:38 am

It was the Ukraine military attacking the Donbas civilians who were demanding independence, not a few terrorists attacking them. Your comment is stupid.

MarkW
Reply to  Richard Greene
September 7, 2022 8:06 am

As you are well aware, the Azoz were part of the Ukraine military. A small part, but a part nonetheless.
Are you so desperate to defend Putin that you are willing to contradict yourself?

Gregory Woods
Reply to  Cherith
September 7, 2022 3:38 am

Here, hear!

MarkW
Reply to  Cherith
September 7, 2022 8:04 am

What is it with Putinophiles and their inability to deal with reality?

September 7, 2022 1:59 am

After going through the entire thread, I reiterate my old saw: This site is run and populated by bright and honest people, but they should stay away from politics.
I say this with love and friendship: Y’all are wally naive about politics, or maybe just so patriotic, you are blinded to logic in human affairs.
If you are just naive patriots, I say good. We need patriots. Lots of them. For every country, in their country, and only in their own country.
Believing the news the way most of you do, don’t worry, it’s just a ‘phase’, you’ll grow out of it…

Gregory Woods
September 7, 2022 3:18 am

“The Russian military might be embarrassing themselves in Ukraine”
and your evidence of this is?????????????

MarkW
Reply to  Gregory Woods
September 7, 2022 8:08 am

They failed to conquer the Ukraine in two weeks. Given the relative sizes of the two economies and two militaries, this should have been over long ago.

JBP
Reply to  MarkW
September 8, 2022 2:10 pm

Like the USA and Afghanistan?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Gregory Woods
September 7, 2022 11:13 am

The Ukrainians are now mounting counteroffensives against Putin’s forces and Putin is having to turn to North Korea to supply himself with more ammunition. Last report was that Putin has lost 2,200 tanks so far.

If I were a Russian Elite counting on Putin to protect me, I would be wondering what this guy is doing wasting all Russia’s ammunition, getting 80,000 Russian troops killed and 250,000 wounded, and the Russian military is brought to a standstill, and now the Ukanians have enough offensive power to mount counteroffensives and push Putin back.

My confidence in Putin would be waning were I a Russian Elite. I might start looking elsewhere for some competent, sane leadership.

I think the Ukrainians want the Crimea back, too.

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ozspeaksup
September 7, 2022 4:02 am

Russia was debt free before the ukiecrap hit the fan and has made as much if not more from oil gas to china n india selling less of it
(. india n china are reselling back to eumorons for 3x or more profit;-).)
working out their own insurance and a new gold n diamond market setup, I see saudis just decided to DROP oil targets to before bidets beggingbowl event as well.
meanwhile usa is 30trillion? in debt and you have a senile leader

Tom Abbott
Reply to  ozspeaksup
September 7, 2022 11:24 am

I would rather be in the USA than any place on Earth. In a Red State, of course.

Mark Stevens
September 7, 2022 7:24 am

TLDR: Green Agenda powers purposely ends Gazprom’s fixed pricing and sustainable energy supply to EU to create their own singular control over all things energy for the EU.

My opinion is that it is purposely self-inflicted by the EU and was started years ago, actually a couple decades.

Nord Stream 1 had a turbine issue months ago that required servicing in Canada then to be shipped through Germany back to Russia. Canada’s sanctions against Russia purposely delayed that for months then the German gov’t is still refusing to send the customs paperwork to Russia so that Russia isn’t even able to fix the issue yet they are being blamed for the problem. There are 2 other turbines now with confirmed issues that Russia cannot alleviate due to sanctions so Nord Stream 1 is pumping half the amount.

Zelensky purposely closed one of the pipelines to Europe.

The Yamal (or Jamal) pipeline is purposely closed.

The Morocco contract ended and no revisited.

Nord Stream 2 can pump twice the amount as Nord Stream 1 directly to northern Germany and it’s up and ready to go but Germany banned that pipeline.

All they have to do is stop the political bs and serve their citizens by re-opening the pipelines. Russia is ready and willing to continue operations as normal as with Hungary who is not following the Green suicide agenda completely and bypassed the EU sanctions to receive gas from TurkStream.

So what is happening? Follow the money and I believe it’s part of the liberalization, or singular, global control of the world’s energy. The Dutch TTF is now an unregulated LNG market allowing unfettered access and manipulation by western Green agenda monetary banks that are working to de-industrialize Europe and now they are making billions off of the backs and suffering of the citizenry from short-term futures as compared to the previous long term fixed contracts. Sound familiar? Yes, the same thing happened with crude oil decades ago and still continues to this day. Obama promised to fix the latter until he learned what the end game was and came out with his blueprint to end fossil fuels and begin the process for green energy control. It was partially paused by fracking but Biden took care of that.

It’s part of Biden’s “great transition”, a corporate communism, and they are going to get their way. They purposely created a needless energy crisis, used climate change fear and rising energy costs to create chaos, and out of that chaos will rise their global, singular savior of their energy problems. They’re already doing it with food and water all over the world too. They did with healthcare in the U.S. under something dubbed ‘Obamacare’. What’s it actually done? Increased the market share of insurance corporations, increased premiums and healthcare costs, reduced the number of available plans and access to doctors even though, “…you will be able to keep (them).”, and now there are less people insured today than ever before. Do you see the pattern here? It’s all the same in regards to the relationship between the politicians and citizens, i.e., the practices are not sustainable for the current population amount.

The last president who tried to fix these issues went thru two impeachment hearings, fake Russian collusion accusations made-up by the opposition, unethical election processes, invasion of his property by the FBI, and more. People who support the improvement and continuation of their quality of life versus it’s purposed destruction are labeled as violent extremists. And after all the evidence this site continually brings forth to subdue the chaos, there are still people that show up here with their weak-willed, fearful comments about how it was hot for a few brief, irrelevant moments compared to the millions of years this Earth has seen and they still ignorantly look to their political man-gods to save them when in fact it’s the opposite that’s happening.

peter
September 7, 2022 8:53 am

obiden will accomplish what trump only wished he could….bye-bye eu……thanks for the sacrifices you’re making and suffering you’re enduring…….Long Live the American Empire….

PNW Greg
September 7, 2022 9:16 am

Epic troll. This is an old song from Russian poet Yuri Vizbor (1934-1984), sung by his granddaughter, Varvara Vizbor. Lyrics, followed by English translation…

А зима будет большая, вот взгляни ка за рекой
тихо осень умирая машет жёлтою рукой.
И сугробы сокрушая, солнце брызнет по весне,
А зима будет большая, только сумерки да снег.

And the winter will be long, look beyond the river
quietly dying autumn waves its yellow hand.
Only with crushing snowdrifts, the sun will come back just in the spring,
And the winter will be long, there are only twilight and snow.

Last edited 2 months ago by PNW Greg
McCork
Reply to  PNW Greg
September 7, 2022 9:10 pm

Interestingly, there was one verse omitted from the original song in this video, they simply cut it out, it gives it a very different meaning about a weeping Russia and how it turns into falling leaves:

(original)
А зима будет большая,
Вот, гляди-ка, за рекой
Осень тихо умирает,
Машет желтою рукой.
Плачут мокрые осины,
Плачет дедушка Aрбат,
Плачет синяя Россия,
Превратившись в листопад.
И, сугробы сокрушая,
Солнце брызнет по весне,
А зима будет большая —
Только сумерки да снег.

(translation)
And the winter will be big
Here, look, across the river
Autumn is slowly dying
Waving yellow hand.
Wet aspens are crying,
Crying grandfather Arbat,
Crying blue Russia
Turned into a leaf fall.
And, crushing the snowdrifts,
The sun splashes in the spring
And the winter will be big –
Only dusk and snow.

Jacques Dumon
September 8, 2022 12:06 am

In my opinion, the Gazprom pipeline will be definitively shut off since no country will ever buy gas from Russia under the threat of undergoing a blackmail from a dictator according to his paranoid fancies.
PutIn has killed Russia’s golden eggs hen.

Jacques Dumon
Reply to  Jacques Dumon
September 8, 2022 12:12 am

A question: Who has paid for the pipeline? Russia? Germany? Europe?

ferdberple
September 8, 2022 9:53 am

The EU would have burned this gas so no increase in emissions.

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