Shameless: Aussie Climate Council Now Claims Floods Caused by CO2

Essay by Eric Worrall

Tim Flannery, Climate Council Founder, in 2006: “even the rain that falls isn’t actually going to fill our dams and our river systems”.

SYDNEY FLOODING RETURNS

04.07.22 BY CLIMATE COUNCIL

FLOODING has returned to NSW, with thousands of Sydney residents subject to evacuation orders and warnings that in some parts, flood levels may exceed those seen earlier this year.

Experts from the Climate Council say preparedness is the key, as communities continue to experience compounding severe weather events, fuelled by a warmer atmosphere. 

Climate Councillor and leader of the Emergency Leaders for Climate Action (ELCA) group, Greg Mullins, added: 

“La Niña may be officially over, but there is a real sting in the tail for these communities who have already been through a terrible year of extreme flooding.

There is absolutely no doubt extreme weather events are being intensified because of climate change. The science is very clear that we’re seeing wild fluctuations between periods of flood and fire, because of warming. On the East Coast of Australia in the last 18 months we’ve now had four major floods. 

Read more: https://www.climatecouncil.org.au/resources/sydney-flooding-returns/

Back in 2006, when Australia was experiencing a prolonged dry spell, the narrative was a little different.

SALLY SARA: What will it mean for Australian farmers if the predictions of climate change are correct and little is done to stop it? What will that mean for a farmer?

PROFESSOR TIM FLANNERY: We’re already seeing the initial impacts and they include a decline in the winter rainfall zone across southern Australia, which is clearly an impact of climate change, but also a decrease in run-off. Although we’re getting say a 20 per cent decrease in rainfall in some areas of Australia, that’s translating to a 60 per cent decrease in the run-off into the dams and rivers. That’s because the soil is warmer because of global warming and the plants are under more stress and therefore using more moisture. So even the rain that falls isn’t actually going to fill our dams and our river systems, and that’s a real worry for the people in the bush. If that trend continues then I think we’re going to have serious problems, particularly for irrigation.

Read more: https://www.abc.net.au/local/archives/landline/content/2006/s1844398.htm

Climate Change also seems to have the ability to tunnel backwards in time, it has the ability to cause a tight knit series of severe NSW floods before the modern age.

THE HAWKESBURY RIVER FLOODS OF 1801, 1806 AND 1809 Their Effect on the Economy of the Colony of New South Wales

There is only one possible conclusion. Climate Change is witchcraft. Not only is climate witchcraft responsible for all the bad weather people experience, wet or dry, its effects can tunnel through time, causing floods in the early 1800s. It can even cause people to apparently forget what they previously said about the “settled science” in public.

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Simonsays
July 4, 2022 6:08 pm

Its going to be alright we voted in the party for better weather at the last election.

Bryan A
Reply to  Simonsays
July 4, 2022 10:17 pm

Climate Change Science really And truly appears to be Science Du Jour
Regardless of the day’s weather, Climate Change is the cause

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Bryan A
July 5, 2022 3:52 am

Unless it’s a nice day, in which case the climate crazies go mute.

Richard Page
Reply to  Bryan A
July 5, 2022 10:50 am

Religious fervour – “Climate Change” has simply replaced “Wrath of God.” The answer, as always, is to pray harder!

Barry James
Reply to  Simonsays
July 7, 2022 12:36 am

Yep. Time we coined a new phrase for what the alarmists want – “climate stagnation”. Their success would mean, of course, that it won’t be able to get better either, even though the punters thought that was what they were voting for. In fact, there is nothing about the climate that a few more degrees of warming and a lot more CO2 would not make better.

Tom Halla
July 4, 2022 6:13 pm

Fossil fuels just confessed to setting to sea in sieves to affect the weather. Admitting this is a La Nina year would be violating the Narrative.

Barry James
Reply to  Eric Worrall
July 7, 2022 12:41 am

If the truth be known, Flim Flam’s Climate Council is running out of the public’s money, so he needed to get his crowd funding donors into gear.

Keith Woollard
July 4, 2022 6:21 pm

Yes, just look at the increase in extreme rainfall (highs and lows)

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Spetzer86
Reply to  Keith Woollard
July 4, 2022 7:08 pm

Don’t confuse the Climate Scientists with historical data. You know it doesn’t count unless you make it up yourself.

Chaswarnertoo
Reply to  Spetzer86
July 4, 2022 11:54 pm

They believe! They don’t need your stinkin’ facts, bigot!

Bryan A
Reply to  Keith Woollard
July 4, 2022 10:24 pm

That chart has at least 2 distinctive cycles. A 30 year component And a 90 year component. 2020 is in the 30 year cycle 1990-2020

Dave Fair
Reply to  Bryan A
July 5, 2022 9:29 am

Bryan, your eyes are a lot better than mine. Or was it math?

Reply to  Keith Woollard
July 5, 2022 4:45 pm

Analysis of 90th, 95th and 99th percentile rainfall days (10%, 5% and 1% wettest days since the 1800s) in the Feb/Mar flood region of Queensland and NSW shows a decline over recent decades in these extreme rainfall events likely to cause riverine flooding.

The analysis also shows when the Climate Council claimed a few weeks before the Federal election that one in 25 Australian homes would be uninsurable by 2030 due to increased flooding caused by climate change, it had nothing to do long-term extreme daily rainfall trends that have been in decline at locations nominated as Australia’s most vulnerable.

What Australian voters didn’t know : less extreme rainfall causing floods
http://www.waclimate.net/rainfall-insurance/index.html

Chris Hanley
July 4, 2022 6:39 pm

The Sydney floods are affecting the Georges River considered one of the most severely flood-prone rivers in NSW:
“… Some long-term residents in the area recall large floods in the river in 1956, 1969, 1975, 1976, 1978, 1986 and 1988. These were much smaller than floods in the late 1800s: the flood in 1873 was a 1 in 100 year event …”.
Nowadays there is far more runoff due to urban development than in the late 1800s.

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Dennis
Reply to  Chris Hanley
July 4, 2022 8:58 pm

For 25 years I worked in the Sydney Bankstown District and have experienced many periods when the Georges River flooded.

Michael in Dublin
Reply to  Dennis
July 5, 2022 3:17 am

Dennis, you do not get it. Observations are misleading. We must always follow the models created in a lab and not believe our lying eyes. Physical observations and historical records count for nothing. Only the alarmist models can be trusted. 😉

Bob Close
Reply to  Chris Hanley
July 5, 2022 5:27 am

Yes Chris, surely it’s past time we get a positive resolution to reduce the flooding in the Nepean and Georges rivers by further improving the upstream dams. Perhaps we don’t need a 17m increase for the Waragamba dam, maybe 10m would be enough to satisfy both the traditional owners, and safety requirements plus ecological aspects. After all Sydney needs more water storage for its growing population, the current site seems to fit the bill perfectly.

Pauleta
July 4, 2022 6:42 pm

CO2 is so powerful that it causes drought and floods in the same place at the same time

LdB
Reply to  Pauleta
July 5, 2022 12:11 am

No get with the lingo they are “wet droughts” and “dry floods”.

Ed Zuiderwijk
Reply to  LdB
July 5, 2022 12:34 am

It’s a matter of using the correct pronouns.

Pauleta
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
July 5, 2022 8:22 am

In my first language both floods and droughts are female. Makes sense?

Pauleta
Reply to  LdB
July 5, 2022 8:21 am

That’s gold right there.

Graham
Reply to  Pauleta
July 5, 2022 2:20 am

The only way that CO2 could affect rain fall is through a warmer atmosphere that can hold more water vapour .
It is mid winter in Australia and they have had some snow on their higher mountains .
The atmosphere is a lot colder now than in the middle of summer .
Flannery is making up bollocks blaming CO2 .
It is an impossibility that an increase of CO2 can make a cold atmosphere hold more water .
This is not science and it just goes to show that these so called scientists are lying scoundrels.
There is no climate crisis and the more I see what these fellows come out with to push a scam ,the more I am convinced that there never will be a climate crisis.

Barry James
Reply to  Graham
July 7, 2022 12:51 am

Don’t forget. Gillard gave Flim Flam’s company $90 million of our money to spend on his “hot rocks” scheme. His company closed down after finding that the scheme was not viable. What happened to that $90 million?

Olen
July 4, 2022 6:49 pm

Wild fluctuations. That covers all bases no matter what.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Olen
July 5, 2022 9:33 am

Yep, whatever happens its CO2 wot dunnit. It is telling that the official “climate change” pronouncements aren’t accompanied with actual data supporting the narrative.

MARTIN BRUMBY
July 4, 2022 7:02 pm

I will say it again.

We are always told that [bad weather event of your choice] is ‘consistent’ with their computer model ‘projections’ of Climate Change.

But you don’t need to power up your computer. These ‘events’ are also ‘consistent’ with the activities of those naughty witches.

And witchcraft may not be considered very ‘scientific’ today. But there is a very long tradition…..

And getting thick arts-grad politicians to choose what the ‘settled science’ might be (and telling ‘deniers’ to ‘shut up”) is much more like witchcraft than science.

DMacKenzie
Reply to  MARTIN BRUMBY
July 4, 2022 8:10 pm

We KNOW these variations are caused by climate change. We don’t even have to turn our computers ON any more……

Alexy Scherbakoff
Reply to  DMacKenzie
July 4, 2022 9:22 pm

The severity is caused by climate models.

Bob Close
Reply to  DMacKenzie
July 5, 2022 5:32 am

That depends on what you mean by Climate Change. If you are referring to an anthropogenic cause, there is no evidence to support it. Perhaps you were just being sarcastic, something Flannery and his ilk don’t seem to understand along with natural climate change.!

AWG
Reply to  MARTIN BRUMBY
July 4, 2022 8:56 pm

What CO2 level is going to give the planet Eden?

The idea that there is this very narrow band of CO2 that provides the best possible long term weather w/o any storms, droughts, floods etc. anywhere on planet Earth is obscene in its foolishness. A couple generations ago the panic was over Global Cooling.

How exactly did the Earth “evolve” to the perfect temperature and remain that way for billions of years and only until Henry Ford made transportation mainstream did we skip over a few inclement weather days and enter directly into the heart of an Existential Crisis? How did Earth “know” what would be the perfect climate suitable for all creatures great and small and manage itself to dial in that perfect hurricane and drought free global climate? How did this sentient Earth, in its marvelous complexity managed to get stumped by White Westerners trying to keep warm or cool during this era of perfect weather?

And if this perfect CO2 level is reached, how will the plants survive w/o the critical element for photosynthesis?

Gregory Woods
Reply to  AWG
July 5, 2022 3:54 am

Maybe we should all join the Flat Climate Society….

Dave Fair
Reply to  AWG
July 5, 2022 9:40 am

“What is the perfect level or range of atmospheric CO2 concentrations?” This will ultimately be the downfall of U.S. EPA CO2 regulations. If you can’t specify the minimum safe level of a pollutant, you can’t regulate its emission. U.S. Federal law also requires a rigorous cost/benefit analysis, which was not done when setting the Social Cost of Carbon by the EPA.

waza
July 4, 2022 7:35 pm

NSW storms can be caused by either warm weather events or cold weather events.

CAGW theory (not mine) for Australia, states that CO2 will create warmer oceans in the North which will increase the intensity of Hadley Cells.
The increased Hadley Cells will in turn impact the Sub Tropical Ridge.
The Sub Tropical Ridge will supposedly become STRONGER, MORE FREQUENT, and MORE SOUTHERLY.
This will then lead to more droughts and bushfires in Southern Australia. This is the alarmist position.

However a strong Sub Tropical Ridge is also known to suppress East Coast Lows.
The current storm in NSW is caused by an East Coast Low.

More winter East Coast Lows would be evidence that helps to refute CAGW theory, not support it.

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  waza
July 5, 2022 3:58 am

Yes but of course their ‘science story line’s will change with the weather of the day – as long as it’s “bad.”

Fraizer
July 4, 2022 7:46 pm

“…Climate Change is witchcraft…”

Turned me into a newt she did.

Mr.
Reply to  Fraizer
July 4, 2022 8:23 pm

But I got better . . .

waza
July 4, 2022 7:48 pm

NSW is bigger than Texas, and Ukraine in terms of size.
It has different weather patterns.
It can get significant tropical summer storms from the north or winter storms from the south east.

To prove CAGW you would need to prove an increase in summer storms and a decrease in winter storms. You cant just talk about storms or droughts in general across the whole state.

another ian
Reply to  waza
July 4, 2022 7:59 pm

You cant just talk about storms or droughts in general across the whole state.”

Seems if a believer you can

Michael in Dublin
Reply to  waza
July 5, 2022 3:30 am

Waza, I found your comment interesting. The Köppen–Geiger climate map has 30 climate zones and sub-zones. However within each there may be considerable variations as you have indicated from NSW. To speak of climate as some amorphous thing is totally misleading. So too is speaking of climate change. When we have a thousand or two years of detailed records we will be stunned to notice patterns that are presently not even dreamt of.

Drake
Reply to  Michael in Dublin
July 6, 2022 3:59 pm

So WHEN will we start collecting these “detailed records”?

More correctly, when will we begin collection competently verifiable “detailed records”?

Anthony’s research on siting of weather enclosures indicate that we have yet to begin that “thousand or two years” task.

another ian
July 4, 2022 7:56 pm

So we can add “claims” to that list of “could”. “might”. “possibly”, “perhaps”, etc?

Dennis
Reply to  another ian
July 4, 2022 9:11 pm

Probably.

Beagle
Reply to  another ian
July 5, 2022 12:00 am

I like the term “a definite maybe”

Mike
July 4, 2022 8:31 pm

Whenever I’m in the mood for speculative climate drivel, unsubstantiated climate speculation, unproven climate based rhetoric or just plain hysterical climate nonsense, the Climate ”Council” is my go-to place.

Dennis
Reply to  Mike
July 4, 2022 9:14 pm

I suspect that Tom Foolery has not recovered from the Abbott Coalition Government cancelling his Climate Office (non-government organisation) taxpayer funding.

PM Abbott was criticised when he said that UN IPCC climate modelling data was “crap”, the leftists claimed that PM Abbott had called climate change crap but he did not, he is a sceptic and understands climate and weather are natural.

Michael in Dublin
Reply to  Dennis
July 5, 2022 3:34 am

This climate modelling data evidently has something in common with rap.

Alan M
Reply to  Michael in Dublin
July 5, 2022 5:29 am

No no, there is a c in “climate modelling”
Oh that’s right there is … ah don’t worry

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Frank S.
July 4, 2022 8:49 pm

I think they’re onto something there. With less oxygen making it to the politicos brains, they make stupider decisions!

Martin
July 4, 2022 8:59 pm

We’ll need to build a giant scale and get a duck!

LdB
Reply to  Martin
July 5, 2022 12:12 am

But we can’t burn things … think of the CO2 🙂

how
July 4, 2022 9:03 pm

Trees need CO2. Climate Alarmist waste oxygen. No CO2, no trees, bushes, grass. Stop pushing Globalist smut.

Dennis
July 4, 2022 9:09 pm

During December 2019 the Climate Council was claiming that bushfires were a climate emergency and even attempted using Council members who were former fire commissioners to claim that they had asked to meet Prime Minister Morrison early in 2019 to discuss their concerns about a likely bushfire crisis to take place later in the year, bushfire season.

To begin, bushfires and floods (natural disasters) are the primary responsibility of State Governments and are dealt with by State Emergency Service, State Rural Fire Service including Air Wing aircraft, and other State services. The expenses are covered in State budgets. The Commonwealth Federal Government does provide Australian Defence Force assistance when requested by State Governments and provides financial support as applied for when the purpose is approved.

So the Climate Council stunt team should have contacted State Premiers or the Ministers responsible.

However, the State authorities were well prepared for a 2019-2020 bushfire crisis as they had planned for before the 2018-2019 bushfire season, but the crisis did not take place.

I note that the new PM Albo remains on his many overseas travelling engagements since the election of the government he leads from an RAAF Airbus aircraft as the latest floods crisis develops. As I pointed out above this is a State Government area of responsibility, but on the other hand Opposition Leader Albo and comrades did attack PM Morrison during the 2019-2020 bushfires and following flood events.

Reply to  Dennis
July 5, 2022 1:25 am

ScoMo Gov running dead on BoM evidence “Black Summer nothing to do with global warming”
http://www.warwickhughes.com/blog/?p=6805

Can anybody cast light on why the 9 September 2019 findings published by the BoM and the ABC about the Antarctic phenomena “sudden stratospheric warming” have been effectively expunged from history. Despite the clear statements from BoM – now the narrative that the Black Summer fires and later floods were all “due to climate change” completely rules roost in public discourse.

Read my links – the BoM in Sep 2019 was crystal clear that “sudden stratospheric warming” was nothing to do with climate change. “sudden stratospheric warming” was worsening the drought so as rainfall decreased; the chance of heatwaves rose and fire risk increased. Which did indeed come to pass in a few months.

Dennis
Reply to  wazz
July 5, 2022 3:59 am

Add fuel to the potential fires, a lack of permits issued for clearing fire hazard materials including burning off when weather conditions are suitable.

People often remark that Greens are not in government and forget, or conveniently ignore, that many Greens hold positions of power in local government councils where the permits are issued, or applications rejected.

It’s almost as if those Greens vandals want major bushfires for their political purposes?

Surely not.

Lark
July 4, 2022 9:54 pm

“Australia has never had floods or droughts like this before! We must sacrifice more proles to our weather god!”

Dennis
Reply to  Lark
July 4, 2022 10:44 pm

How about dark Greens and pale Greens sacrifice, they must be influential?

davidmhoffer
July 4, 2022 9:55 pm

Climate Change is witchcraft.

With apologies to Arthur C Clarke, any sufficiently advanced witchcraft is indistinguishable from science.

Richard Page
Reply to  davidmhoffer
July 5, 2022 10:59 am

Aha – so they’re practicing witchcraft (just not very good yet as it is totally distinguishable from actual science). Right – improve your game, you black and midnight hags!

Stuart Hamish
Reply to  Richard Page
July 6, 2022 5:46 am

By the pricking of my thumbs voodoo science this way comes

rah
July 4, 2022 11:16 pm
Felix
July 4, 2022 11:26 pm

There is a better, more scientific explanation: time travel. These brave souls from the future are selflessly warning us, trying to get us to alleviate the future pain and suffering we are causing Right The F*ck Now! Won’t some literally think of The Children?

Stuart Hamish
Reply to  Eric Worrall
July 6, 2022 5:18 am

I read and was most impressed with your April WUWT blog article ” Claim : Climate Change is Spreading Japanese Encephalitis” Eric …Unfortunately you did not tunnel back in time far enough tracing JEV’s historical and geographical transmission arc to comprehensively debunk the latest climate plague scare story .This amateur researcher did [ me ]…… According to the pronouncements of an assortment of health professionals ” the appearance of Japanese encephalitis here [ Australia ] is ” just the latest example of how global warming is contributing to the spread of [ JEV ] ” …..Some have defined JEV as a disease ‘restricted to the tropics ‘ now on ‘Australia’s doorstep ” and climate change as the fulcrum or ‘underlying driver’ of the virus . As I have discussed previously, these claims are pseudoscientific nonsense. My preferred term is ‘climate quackery ‘ The Australian Department of Health alert updates have sensibly made no mention of any climate change influence let alone an anthropogenic global warming force majeure in the spread of the disease . One would hope the new Labor government will not ‘advise’ the respective federal and state health departments to ‘correct ‘ the epidemiological ‘science ” of the JEV bulletins in line with climate catastrophist ideology . Here is an amended version of my short essay : ………………………………………………” Eric Worrall , in his WUWT rebuttal to the JEV climate plague scare, posed the perfectly valid question as to why JEV is distributed over such a wide geographic range of climate zones .if climate change is supposedly exacerbating the endemicity of the virus. As confirmed by the CDC map , JEV is not a specifically tropical disease but rather a tropical subtropical and temperate zone arbovirus of the Flavivirae family that includes the closely related strains Murray Valley Encephalitis [ MVEV ] and St Louis Encephalitis . Specialist researchers believe JEV mutated from its proto genotype virus in the 16th century [ the midst of the Little Ice Age ] somewhere in the Malaysian – Indonesian archipelago region , thereafter spreading northward across Asia and the Western Pacific as far north as the Korean peninsula , Manchuria , south east Siberia [ Primorsky Krai province ] and Hokkaido in northern Japan , penetrating the rim of the taiga biome on the 49th parallel intersecting central Europe and the Canadian – United States border territories .Quite obviously the historical evolution of JEV transmission is not commensurate with global warming pseudoscience ideology . This is where you should have elaborated your argument to its conclusion Eric : during the first five decades of the 20th century ,JEV was principally a summer – autumn disease affecting the temperate regions of Korea [ first case 1933 ] mainland China [ 1940 ] and Japan [ first case 1871 followed by outbreaks in 1924, 1927 , and 1934 ] . ………….The 2009 Weiss et al paper ” Past Present and Future of Japanese Encephalitis ” published in the journal Emregent Infectious Diseases ‘ lists the dates JEV was first detected in in tropical and subtropical Asian countries : Malaysia [ 1952 ] ; India [1955 ] ; Indonesia [ 1960 ] ; Vietnam [ 1960 ] ; Thailand [ 1964 ] ; Myanmar [ 1965 ] ; Sri Lanka [ 1968 ] ; Nepal [ 1978 ] ; Pakistan [ 1983 ] ; Laos [ 1989 ] ..JEV arrived in New Guinea and the Torres Strait islands relatively late in 1995 ……..So the JEV pathogenesis and transmission arc started from the Japanese islands in the 19th century near the terminal phase of the Little Ice Age , to mainland temperate zone East Asia [ where winter temperatures drop to minus 30 -20 C ] in the 1930’s and 1940’s , descending to the subtropical and tropical latitudes of south east and west Asia as the world warmed [ although the older NCAR and NASA temperature graphs show cooling from the 60s to the 70’s ] . Now that JEV cases have appeared in the temperate southern states of Victoria and South Australia in the La Nina year 2022 [ 100 – 80 years after the virus was established in temperate Japan and East Asia when atmospheric carbon dioxide and global temperatures were lower ] legacy media outlets such as The Guardian and the Sydney Morning Herald , preening activist health professionals and foolish politicians, are proclaiming climate change is influencing or driving the spread of the exotic arbovirus southward . Well , surely ,if JEV’s emergence in Australia is attributable to ‘climate change ‘ then the closely related MVEV flavivirus should track a not dissimilar pathogenic pathway…..And yet MVEV epidemics can be traced in Australia’s south east to 1917 -25 ; 1950 -51 and the wettest year in the BoM rainfall series 1974 …….. Molecular studies suggest ” MVEV evolved ….approximatelyt 200 years ago at around 1814 …much later than JEV estimated to be around the mid 1500’s ” https://journals.plos.org/plosntds/article?id=10.1371/journal.pntd.004240 Both the JEV and MVEV progenitor viruses emerged during the Little Ice Age .Clearly global warming has nothing whatsoever to do with the spread of either mosquito borne disease as they were periodically endemic in temperate zones prior to 1980 . Swine herds and wading migratory water birds such as herons and egrets are the reservoir and amplifier hosts of JEV .The distribution of JEV has more to do with rapid human population growth [ augmenting transmissability ] , the expansion of irrigated rice cultivation , [ thus enlarging the Culex species vectors larval habitats ] and domestic pig production . Not greenhouse gases

Stuart Hamish
Reply to  Eric Worrall
July 6, 2022 5:43 am

My post is related to the Australian La Nina floods Anthony and editorial team if pertinency is a factor for approval

Climate believer
July 5, 2022 1:21 am

There is absolutely no doubt extreme weather events are being intensified because of climate change. The science is very clear…”

… but even if that’s true, and I doubt it is, by what magnitude are these events being intensified over previous ones? Australia has had some pretty intense ones over the years.

The Murchison Times and Day Dawn Gazette 10th July 1900:

The Hawkesbury River has attained the height of 50 feet the highest recorded level, excepting the years 1864 and 1867.

50 feet is 15.24 metres.

9 news . com Australia 5th July 2022:

In Windsor, the Hawkesbury River has swelled to the highest point since 1978, (14.46 metres) exceeding the levels reached just a few months ago.

By 6am today it was sitting around 13.9 metres. In March 2022 the river peaked at 13.8, and in March 2021 it reached 12.93 metres.

Here are some other “normal climate”™ heights to consider:

June 1964 14.57m
November 1961 14.95m
February 1956 13.84m
April 1870 14.14m
June 1867 19.68m
June 1864 15.05m

1809, 1816 and 1817 all over 14 metres.

I would humbly suggest that there is nothing here that cannot be classified under natural variation.

Reply to  Climate believer
July 5, 2022 3:57 pm

The 1867 level shows our public life and political discourse is infested by mass delusions and fantasy – whether it is fires or floods.

Steve Richards
July 5, 2022 2:06 am

Not sure why they don’t build flood control channels around populated areas of known flood risks.

Seems to work well in LA and similar areas.

Michael ElliottMichael Elliott
Reply to  Steve Richards
July 5, 2022 3:41 am

It all comes down to basic Engineering.

And of course money a lot of it.

Some areas should never have been built on in the first place, so turn them into Parks.

And in other parts put houses on stilts, like Queensland used to do.

Michael VK5ELL

Alan M
Reply to  Michael ElliottMichael Elliott
July 5, 2022 5:35 am

But Michael they don’t consult the engineers

Dennis
Reply to  Steve Richards
July 5, 2022 4:00 am

Environmental protection.

/sarc.

george1st:)
July 5, 2022 4:16 am

The new Australian leader is known as “each way Albo” because of variance in committal to major issues .
The climate change brigade can never lose , what ever the weather is it’s caused by climate change . CO2 is the control knob but somehow it twists up and down .

Alan M
July 5, 2022 5:41 am

The really convincing bit is this (bold form Eric’s post)

Climate Councillor and leader of the Emergency Leaders for Climate Action (ELCA) group, Greg Mullins, added:”

Mullins is a firefighter (although “decorated”) but not aware of any science qualifications
Fancy that a firefighter preaching about floods, more of these La Nina thingo’s and we probably wouldn’t have those bush fire thingo’s

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Andy Pattullo
July 5, 2022 7:25 am

The droughts are worse, the floods are devastating and the mild pleasant days have become just too damn pleasant. Every breeze brings a foreshadowing of eerie calm. Sunrise and sunset have become annoyingly persistent and the seasons make your head spin. Even the stars are twinkling in an unprecedented sarcastic manner never before witnessed by university psych majors. Science has shown us the cause of all this climate devastation and it is CO2. Now please send more money and don’t ask questions.

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Dan Sudlik
July 5, 2022 7:45 am

“The science is very clear”? Really? Than how come every prediction they make fails. Give me a break.

July 5, 2022 8:01 am

What outspoken scientists Australia has! My condolences.

Richard Page
Reply to  Curious George
July 5, 2022 11:02 am

I take issue with calling them scientists. They self identify as scientists perhaps, but that doesn’t necessarily make them so. Whups – there go my woke credentials!

griff
July 5, 2022 8:09 am

Well let’s see: 3 severe flood events this year… one with 3 months rain in 2 days, now one with 8 months rain in 4 days… two one in one hundred year events in one year…

following ‘the worst floods in 60 years’ in March 2021…

and Watts readers want to pretend this is ‘normal’ weather?

Dave Fair
Reply to  griff
July 5, 2022 9:59 am

Of course it is normal weather: It has happened many times in the past in similar patterns. Prove it is not normal in a historical sense, rather than your fevered fears of the monsters in your bedroom closet, Griff.

Climate believer
Reply to  griff
July 5, 2022 10:17 am

It is, and you denying that fact changes nothing.

Richard Page
Reply to  griff
July 5, 2022 11:08 am

Why not? You just want to pretend that this is ‘unprecedented’ ‘extreme’ or ‘apocalyptic’ when it has happened before (frequently), within normal variation (there have been far, far worse floods in this location in the past) and recoverable (if somewhat inconvenient and damaging in the short term).

Climate believer
Reply to  griff
July 5, 2022 12:09 pm

Here’s a guy that’s lived in Hawkesbury for over 60 years pretending…

1867
“From Riverstone to the Blue Mountains and from Pitt Town to Kurrajong there was a vast inland sea 25-32km wide dotted only by the islands of Windsor, Richmond and Pitt Town. The water was up to the eaves of Windsor railway station.”

https://www.hawkesburygazette.com.au/story/3981114/floods-what-floods/

Graham
Reply to  griff
July 5, 2022 2:16 pm

Do you know what they call fellows in Aus like you Griff ?
Drongos .
Look at the historical record going back 200 years .
There have been floods in the Hawkesbury River all of that time .
You have been brain washed .More CO2 cannot cause the air to hold more moisture .
Warm air will hold more moisture .
As they say in Aus thats a bloody fact .
Warmer air can hold more moisture but hey this is the middle of winter and there is snow on the ski slopes .
The atmosphere is cold and this is not a tropical cyclone which we expect in the summer in both Aus and NZ to bring tropical rain .
This is severe weather but it cannot be blamed on CO2.
No matter what your handlers tell you .

Mike
July 5, 2022 2:24 pm

Once you realize Climate Change is a religion and not science, everything else makes sense.

Matt G
July 5, 2022 4:37 pm

None of the rainfall amounts recorded over recent decades in Australia have been out of the natural range of extremes.

The last notable rainfall event in NSW was back in 1991 with many before climate alarmism (really climate witchcraft as the behaviour and actions are similar) of the warming planet kind.

Climatecraft – A special skill in blaming everything on one thing related to climate?

Highest daily rainfall in 24 hours to 9:00am
Crohamhurst, Southeast Queensland (1893) 907mm

Souce below http://www.bom.gov.au

Notable Point Rainfall Events – New South Wales
Location Date Ended Duration(min) Rainfall(mm) Source
Warawarralong 25 Jan1904 3 27  
Eastwood 19 Jan1958 5 20  
Jimenbuen 16 Mar 1895 5 25  
Fox Valley 21 Jan 1991 6 38 SWB
Toorooka 8 Mar 1964 6 51 BoM
Fox Valley 21 Jan 1991 10 58 SWB
Wandoona 17 Feb 1983 10 86  
Toorooka 8 Mar 1964 12 78 BoM
Moree 17 Nov 1959 20 113  
Lake Eucumbene 30 Dec 1982 30 120  
Bundarra Feb 1908 30 152  
Goonoo Goonoo 11 Feb 1992 30 175  
Bonshaw 11 Nov 1969 40 174  
South Yathong 21 Sep 1902 60 152  
Wingham 8 Jan 1908 60 152  
Bylong 5 Mar1893 70 145  
Coronga Peak 28 Jan1910 120 229  
Wantabadgery Station 29 Aug 1902 120 254  
Newcastle 18 Mar 1871 150 267  
Huntley 18 Feb 1984 180 295 PWD
Wongawilli 18 Feb 1984 180 296 PWD
Federal 29 Feb 1976 240 290  
Huntley 18 Feb1984 300 411 PWD
Huntley 18 Feb1984 360 467 PWD
Wongawilli 18 Feb1984 360 515 PWD
Wongawilli 18 Feb1984 540 653 PWD
Wongawilli 18 Feb1984 720 717 PWD
Wongawilli 18 Feb1984 1080 767 PWD
Wongawilli 18 Feb1984 1440 797 PWD
Dorrigo 21 Feb1954 1440 809 BoM
Tomewin 27 Jan1974 2880 889 BoM
Dorrigo 21 Feb1954 2880 998 BoM
Tomewin 27 Jan1974 4320 1049 BoM
Bowraville 21 Dec1975 4320 1090  BoM

The recent rainfall events although severe and extreme are nothing unusual out of historic extremes.

Dennis
July 5, 2022 7:22 pm

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese says his government is finding a “long-term solution” to increased flooding by changing Australia’s position on climate change.

“Australia has always been subject of floods, of bushfires, but we know that the science told us that if we continued to not take action globally on climate change then these extreme weather events would be more often and more intense,” he said.

“And what we’re seeing, unfortunately, is that play out.”

David John
Reply to  Dennis
July 5, 2022 11:38 pm

He will order the Royal Australian Navy to tow the continent, including all of its islands, to a more-benign region.

Alan M
Reply to  David John
July 6, 2022 6:05 am

Yep sounds like a bit of a tug

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