From NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT
By Paul Homewood
Well worth reading this by Rupert Darwell:
Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine marks the end of the West’s Era of Illusions. It was an era in which Western elites obsessed about solving climate change because the climate crisis was far more dangerous than issues of war and peace and the stability of the international system. They even convinced themselves that climate change causes war, so climate change policy could double as national security policy; and, for many years, the annual round of kumbaya UN climate talks was the apogee of international relations.
In a BBC World Service interview, presidential climate envoy John Kerry expressed concern about the amount of greenhouse gas being emitted from the war in Ukraine. Kerry was just getting warmed up with a string of platitudes that show him as a deluded climate relic, unable to come to terms with the reality that Putin has imposed on the world. “Equally importantly,” Kerry complained, “you’re going to lose people’s focus,” as if the first invasion of a sovereign European country since the Second World War is an annoying distraction. Hopefully, Kerry continued, Putin would realize that Russia’s land is thawing, and the people of Russia are at risk.
Kerry concluded with an expression of pure self-deception, saying he hopes Putin “will help us to stay on track with respect to what we need to do for the climate.” Stay on track? Russia has never hidden its intention to avoid cutting its emissions. Russia’s second Nationally Determined Contribution, submitted in November 2020 under the Paris climate agreement, is to limit its 2030 emissions to “no more than 70% of 1990 levels.” The document is careful to avoid pledging to cut or reduce emissions. The 1990 baseline year was the last one before the collapse of the highly inefficient and heavily polluting centrally planned Soviet economy. Thus, the 70% limit actually enables Russia to increase its emissions by 34% – and that’s before taking account of any changes in forestry and land use that would allow Russia to claim credit for negative emissions.
Despite Kerry’s claim about the thawing of their frozen north, Russians’ indifference to climate change predates Putin’s rise to power. During preparation of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s (IPCC) first assessment report in 1990, Soviet scientists argued that warming might be beneficial at northern latitudes. Yuri Izrael, the Soviet academician and chair of the IPCC’s working group examining potential impacts of global warming, emphasized the doubt and uncertainty of climate change and disputed claims that it would be harmful.
At a 2005 conference on avoiding dangerous climate change organized by Britain during its G-8 presidency, Putin’s former economic adviser, Andrei Illarionov, challenged the premise of the conference. “Anyone who is frightened about the prospect of global warming is welcome to come and live in Siberia,” Illarionov told a journalist.
Full story here.
“…. and disputed claims that it would be harmful.”
We got 3” of snow last night. If that came as rain then sign me up. When will winter end?
About the same time as any other year.
Considering his disastrous failures including in Iran, I would not touch this man with a barge pole.
Kerry is as much of a walking disaster as is Joe Biden.
….. don’t forget Pelosi. Anachronistic relics.
Remember it is this team that “negotiated” the ridiculous treaty with China that bound us to reductions immediately with 1995 as a baseline and China could continue to 2030 and the CONSIDER leveling off.
Why isn’t Kerry using the ‘magic hat’ that the CIA guy gave him ?
It’s more than time to retire all of the “Silent Generation” (1928 -1945) which includes Kerry, Biden, Pelosi, Feinstein … (27 in House, 11 in Senate) .. (Trump is at the beginning of the Boomers, 1946)
The Democrats in the U.S. House are retiring faster than we can vote them out of office. 🙂
Unfortunately I do not think the climate alarmism movement is that fragile. The Russian invasion and the energy price spikes may just be short term disruptions. The alarmists are playing the long game, with targets in 2035 and 2050. They are deeply entrenched with lots of money.
Lots of money that comes ultimately from Russia and Saudi Arabia. Sanctions will now strip Russia of its incomes.
Green is not dead, but it sure smells that way.,
Leo, you concluded your comment with, “Green is not dead, but it sure smells that way.,”
It has always smelled like poo. Now it’s just a little riper.
Regards,
Bob
Keep it in a Poo-Tin, Bob.
While Russia no doubt chips in, I doubt the funding for alarmism depends on that. The US Governments itself puts in several billion dollars a year, as do the Europeans. Left wing foundations and rich people probably pay even more. Then there is the renewables industry. The numbers are huge.
Yes, and all a waste in pursuit of a delusion.
Our descendants will understand and curse the wasters.
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And it’s not just the money invested in the green biz. There’s also the careers of countless academics and their administrators, scientists etc. at state-owned and/or state funded organisations like NASA, NOOA, Hadley, etc. And all those government departments like EPA and MoE and their people. And don’t forget school teachers, who’ve been grooming our kids to be climate change believers for 30 years or more, and all the kids who’ve been groomed.
The amount of human capital invested in this scheme is almost beyond comprehension. It won’t end that easily. A lot of the participants will fight like the devil to preserve the careers that they have invested in CAGW.
To quote my favourite hero “This is not the end. It is not the beginning of the end. But it may – just possibly – be the end of the beginning”.
This is the big problem. It’s entrenched in academia and the educational system. And it’s become a very destructive cult following.
… Human Resources, at various levels.
A slight correction, I have no problem with the idea that “our kids” believe in Climate Change, it is the reasons for that Climate Change I challenge & question! The idea that all Climate Changes over the last 4.5 Billion years was perfectly natural, but a modest warming of 1.1 Degree Celcius over 150 years is a disaster for mankind, life on Earth, & the planet!!! The logic & rationale is bizarre to my mind!!!
“Then there is the renewables industry.” Largely funded by the taxpayer through tax incentives & grants! No wonder there is big money in Green, mostly taxpayers money!!!
Quite a large chunk of that money comes from leftest USA sources.
Phony-leftist you mean?
I live in the Oakland-Berkeley Hills here in N. California and even the libtards are phony-libtards. $100,000+ Porsche-driving socialists. Hello ……
Don’t forget, the Socialism is NOT for them, it’s for the peasants who must be kept down at heel, tugging our forelocks to the high & mighty, etc!!!
Dunno about that. The sanctions apparently don’t cover Russian oil & gas sales to the EU or the US. The Biden maladministration is even talking about lifting sanctions on Venezuela and Iran so they can get in on the $110+ oil boom while maintaining their anti US oil and gas policies. We’ll be paying $4-6/gal for gas to fund Russia’s war, Venezuela’s socialist autocracy and Iran’s nuclear weapons production. Those Democrats are just brilliant.
Yeah, they’re organizing giving arms to Ukrainians or Iranians, I’ve forgotten which.
Why don’t they just give them to the Russians and avoid the dead middlemen?
Soviet-era jets from Poland’s junkyard versus $100/barrel for Putin and Evil Inc. Not exactly a fair trade.
Unfortunately I do not think the climate alarmism movement is that fragile.
Especially when it is heavily supported by the lukewarmist movement.
Belief in the GHE and ECS junk science allows alarmists to further their agenda.
Lukewarmers provide a nice soft mattress for the alarmists to snooze.
Don’t they just.
Russia attacking Ukraine is the crime of the decade, but “Climate Change” is the crime of the century.
That is what the media wants you to believe rather than focusing on Biden and the Wests failed build back better policies.
Always remember, the way to create scary stories to be well embedded in the hearts & minds of children/easily lead, is to make them so far ahead that those propagating these scary stories, will be well beyond the reach of justice, & accountability, & probably retired on very comfortable taxpayer funded pension schemes. Ultimately their standard fall-back position will be, “We were simply basing our assumptions on the best available science at the time, so we cannot be judged or head accountable!”. Easy peasy!!!
Lurch has a long history of being a fool. Thank God he lost when he ran for President.
He might have been worse than Biden.
No, scrub that.
Actually he’s just an idiot period. No need to further qualify it . . .
All aboard the Kerry-go-round
And remember to suspend your disbelief
Very often we find that dumb looking politicians are actually well above normal intelligence and were very accomplished previous to entering politics.
On the other hand, there’s John Kerry, whose previous non-political accomplishments appear rather lackluster. He presents well, he’s clean, well dressed and apparently polite … and that seems to be about where it ends.
The only thing positive, you can say about John Kerry, is he makes Al Gore look intellectual.
Old Joe was asked what he thinks of John Kerry, he replied, “who”?
Oh dear, the inventers of imaginary climate risks are getting very worried that a real risk has come along that renders their position obsolete.
Hey ho, I am sure Al and Michael E and John K along with the rest of the fearmongers will get their day in sun again one day. Unfortunately for them it may be long after they have returned to the chemical balance of the Earth.
Kerry beclowning himself on climate is a good thing. It shows how obsessed the climate alarmists are with imagined stuff while ignoring reality. Imagined stuff that isn’t happening includes sea level rise acceleration, disappearance of summer Arctic sea ice, and Putin’s commitment to climate change. Reality includes that any significant penetration of renewables dramatically raises electricity costs while destabilizing the grid. Reality includes India and China commitments to coal generation despite Kerry’s impassioned pleas. Reality includes the abject failure of COP26 despite Kerry.
Wait for it, Rud: Vlad will soon make grand Net Zero promises to the applause of the chattering class. Meanwhile, he will continue to sell (profitably) FFs to the rest of the world.
Isn’t it fun to watch the Western World being run by Twitter consensus?
I recall a Dr Adussamatov of Pulkovo Observatory in Russia about 15 yrs ago remarking that Mars’s south polar ice cap is shrinking in the same manner as our Arctic ice cap. He was quoted in Scientific American although I cant find it now. Sci Am does still have an article, probably a cover up one but still acknowledges the shrinking ice cap on Mars. The first article mentioned solar changes, the second dust devils.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/more-heat-than-light-dim/
“researchers compared Viking orbiter photos from 1976 to 1978, which mapped the planet’s bright and dark spots, to those from 1999 to 2000, when the Mars Global Surveyor discovered a darker Mars.
… The difference in albedo between the two eras corresponds to a warming of about 0.65 kelvin (one degree Fahrenheit), Fenton and her colleagues report in this week’s Nature. Rising summertime temperatures near the planet’s south pole might explain why the polar ice cap has been shrinking for the past four years, they note…” (the article was in 2007)
Viking orbiters in 1976 -78 was during the “Ice Age Cometh” cold period on earth…hmmm.
BTW Russia shortly afterwards began building the world’s largest icebreakers – nuke powered.
This kind of stuff got little mention by sceptics (I had some comments).
Chapter 17 – The New Little Ice Age Has Started2016
Evidence-Based Climate Science (Second Edition)
Data Opposing CO2 Emissions as the Primary Source of Global Warming
2016, Pages 307-328
H.I.Abdussamatov
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/B9780128045886000173
Stoppit.
If the democrats didn’t have imaginary things, they wouldn’t have anything.
Yup, anthropogenic warming will be net beneficial for the whole biome, including human society.
It’s an old idea, and just as right now as when first entertained.
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Yeah, but it’s a pity we can’t do it yet. Fortunately, I think that orbiting insolation enhancers might do it, as long as we can keep the technology away from the parasitic class.
John Kerry (paraphrase): The army is in the business going to war and trying to win it.
No point of complaining about it now Mr. Kerry.
The new Army policy became endless wars, take Afghanistan as an example. Trump put his finger on this crazy policy, and Biden just about managed to end it. Look at the result – 20 million threatened with starvation after stealing their $9 billion.
It was actually decided never to win wars again like WWII, just have forever wars.
These crazies would now like a never ending Ukraine war – just imagine the result!
The result? Dead Russian invaders. There is a silver lining in everything.
bonbon hates it when people resist his masters
Assume for a second that the global warming is real. Does anyone think Putin would be upset if thousands of miles of Siberian coast was open for sea traffic year round? Or if Siberia suddenly was as comfortable as London instead of a deep freeze?
What a completely irrelevant statement by a US Gov’t spokesman as war was starting in Ukraine.
Good lead-in . . . to paraphrase Mark Twain: “Suppose for a second you were climate envoy John Kerry, and next suppose you were an idiot, but I repeat myself.”
You’re missing an adjective: “stupid idiot”, as an idiot is far more intelligent than John Kerry.
Yes.”Idiot” has its roots in “Id” and means “self-absorbed”. Kerry is both stupid and self-absorbed.
I’ll stay with the sage’s style . . . simple and direct.
China would be even happier.
Go to Google Earth and compare polar or Suez Canal (not to mention one around Africa) container ship routes from Shanghai to Rotterdam.
Recently China announced construction of heavy ice breaker/s.
Prospect of Russia and China jointly controlling Northern sea route it might be of some concern to NW European countries, on positive side Chinese windmill parts and solar panels should cheer up John Kerry and Biden if he’s not asleep at the time.
Speaking of China, I’m sure that they are watching this slow-motion ‘blitzkrieg’ with great interest. I’m sure that their military strategists are learning some important facts. In any event, Putin has done nothing to instill more fear of the Russian Bear. His supporters must be at least as embarrassed as Putin, and chagrined at his incompetence. Were it not for his nuclear weapons, his 40-mile long caravan, lined up in a straight line, would have been dispatched quickly by some A-10 Warthogs with their 30mm Avenger Gatling gun, with armor-piercing depleted-uranium rounds.
But they are not. Media wants you to focus on Ukraine while the Build Back Better show goes on.
How come…when the US invaded a middle eastern country on the other side of the planet, it was met in the press with glorious statements that ‘this will preserve the future of the world’, ‘shock and awe’, ‘mission accomplished’, even as the President of the US generated the illusion that he could possibly complete a carrier landing…
…but–when Russia invades a different country farther north, also on the other side of the planet, it instantly becomes the end of the world as we know it, and nothing will ever be the same again.–and gasoline went to $8.83/gallon in Vancouver–in a country that has one of the largest oil reserves in the world and can’t get it to its borders to sell.
From a non-American or non-Russian stand-point, I saw Russia presage the American change from ‘shock and awe’ into a ‘drop weapons and run’ limping-home experience in Afghanistan. What was the difference?
So far, I see press and pundits simply saying ‘we liked that one’; we don’t like this one’.
And ‘Here’s how you’re supposed to think’. And ‘Oh by the way, this means higher prices, more taxes, and less freedom. Because
climate change,Covid,…uhhh– Ukraine invasion.’ At my age I’d be an imbecile not to see the patterns by now.As for John Kerry–why is he even there? Did nobody read the descriptions of his Swift-boat performance in Vietnam, where he demonstrated the core of his personality? Has he ever passed one science course? (Please don’t include ‘political science’; the words are oxymorons.). Kerry’s life purpose will most likely be to preserve for his own personal descendants the privileged position he was lucky enough to have been born into that was preserved for him by his ancestors.
(Yes, I know–our Prime Minister will declare that I, ahh, ‘hold unacceptable views’ on this too.)
Rational people are able to recognize the different circumstances surrounding the two invasions.
Duh – we done it, and they done it.
What a difference.
You just proved Mark’s point. Rationality escapes your grasp.
Russia invades the Ukraine, a country that wasn’t threatening it.
US and half the world, invades Iraq, a country that had just invaded Kuwait.
As to Afghanistan, they were sheltering Bin Laden who had just attacked the US.
If you can’t see the difference between those situations, it can only be because Putin is paying you to make a fool of yourself.
Who created Bin Laden 😉
Islam
Though I’m sure you’ll say that the CIA did. In your world, the CIA is responsible for all evil in the world.
No, but a lot of it.
It really is fascinating how you believe whatever Putin tells you to believe.
Derg smugly asks “Who created Bin Laden?”
His mother and father.
Presumably his parents did the creating, Islam did the rest, coupled with his personal wealth!!!
‘Ol Ricebutt.
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That is one of the most irrational discourses I’ve heard in a long time. Must be a Russian apologist.
Len, Do you have a serious case of dementia? Al Queda attacked the US killing thousands. The Taliban in Afghanistan were harboring and protecting Al Queda, so they had to be taken out. This was done by an international coalition including Canada, Great Britian, Australia, and dozens of other countries, not just the US.
I nominate your comment for the dumbest comment of the month.
and what was the excuse for invading Iraq?
Colin Powell’s WMD – which he and Pelosi knew full well was a lie.
Trust U$.
This from the guy who declares that Ukraine was building plutonium based dirty bombs. Regardless, WMDs were found, as well as extensive WMD programs.
If you’re really asking the question (but I think you’re asking a rhetorical question), like all things in life, the answer is not so simple. I’d suggest reading John Keegan – the Iraq War for starters. It’s quite possible that the first gulf war was a mistake, but it was quite the coalition. The second was a somewhat inevitable fact because of the first. If you think the second war was wrong, but the first was justified, then you might need to rethink that one. Destabilization of the world energy market might have been a problem had Saddam not stopped at Kuwait. The Iraq wars are far more complicated than the Russian aggression in the Ukraine. Personally I think taking out Saddam was horribly destabilizing. The Middle East and Russia would be irrelevant if both the US and Europe did the right thing and became energy independent. One dude who Twitter hated understood this. Unfortunately US policy has gotten it wrong since Regan. No one gives a rip about Middle East politics if they are energy independent. Russia is a 3rd world nation with no military capability sans Nukes if no one buys their gas or oil. Russian disinformation on fracking Kees Europe under his thumb.Poland has enough gas reserves if they crack to make Russia irrelevant.
“ The Iraq wars are far more complicated than the Russian aggression in the Ukraine.”
Thanks for the laugh. I hope you were joking?
In a widely televised event, the head of the CIA told the president it was a “slam dunk”, which is a basketball euphemism for a sure thing, that Iraq had WMD. That was a highly televised event. Seems like that ultimately ended his career.
I have been told that the vice president applied much pressure to the CIA to make a strong statement but have no reference or validation.
Some fissile material and some nerve gas projectiles were found but it was a colossal mistake, ultimately, or so it seems. The massive destruction and loss of life was and is unspeakable.
Bush senior had made a good decision to not pursue the Republican Guard to Bagdad after securing Kuwait.
But, without question, Sadam H did use chemical weapons more than once prior to Desert Storm.
Saddam Hussein was killing thousands of his own people per year on top of the threat of WMDs. He himself could have averted the invasion and his own death if he had simply come clean and welcomed inspectors.
A former colleague was an Army NCO in Iraq with the job of WMD disposal. There weren’t massive stockpiles, but his teams found and destroyed a fair amount, which he said was never reported in the mainstream media.
The argument over removing Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction was always a empty argument. To me it was like a witness or lawyer in a court of law saying something inadmissible, & the Judge tells the Jury to disregard that “comment”, which is actually impossible because it has been said, what the judge is telling the Jury is to not take it into account in any recess discussions behind closed doors!!! The point being is that weapons inspectors can demand removal of whatever they want removed, however, once the knowledge has been gained as to, “how to”, it cannot be taken away. Once a Human being or any other animal of fair intelligence, has learned something, it cannot be taken away!!!
The excuse for invading Iraq was Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait.
As for the second phase, Iraq violated the terms of the cease fire agreement.
Doing what they should have done in the First Gulf War!!! I briefly discussed the matter with a then work colleague over a mug of coffee, we agreed, If we don’t cross that Kuwait/Iraq border & carry on that highway into downtown Bagdad, & take Hussain out, we’ll be back here in 10 years time doing it all over again!!! I think we got it about right!!!
“… so Mr. Powell, what are your terms for our surrender? You have us over a barrel … we’re screeewed … what should I tell Sadam we are going to have to do?”
” er, well, I hadn’t thought far ahead. How ’bout you guys go home and promise not to act badly again. And, maybe let us check on you every once in a while, when it isn’t inconvenient to your schedules.”
taken out? Don’t you mean somewhat temporarily suppressed?
And put back in, dumbest war ever.
I think that you have a reading comprehension problem. Werner wasn’t making a judgement about the morality of the events. Rather, he was pointing out how different the Media response is, apparently based on their subjective opinions.
He was right on the mark about Kerry’s lack of credentials for his position.
Thanks you for for being a thinking man, Clyde; it seems many aren’t. I was, however, most interested in even their replies and took no offence by them, they just say something about the modern world.
It’s only March 6
Barry Anthony has already beaten him half a dozen times
+10
I don’t recall Zelensky ever being accused of putting his prisoners in metal shredders feet first or funding suicide bombers in Palestine. I don’t recall the Ukrainians being responsible for for bringing down office buildings.
Must be be a different situation, don’t-ya-think?
” ….. the first invasion of a European country since the Second World War ….. ”
Not so. Russia invaded both Ukraine when they took over The Crimea several years ago and they invaded Georgia as well.
And having accomplished those with no Interntional consequences, he is now going for the trifecta.
That’s what happens when dictators don’t get push back. They just keep on pushing their envelope.
There will come a point where Putin pushes it too far and then NATO is going to get involved. And I don’t think we are too far from that point.
We should act like Putin will not use nuclear weapons and should fight him on the conventional front in order to stop him.
If he is crazy enough to resort to nuclear weapons then that’s the way it will have to be. We will resort to nuclear weapons, too.
Putin and Russia will lose this kind of war. Not that anyone will win, but Putin and Russia will lose.
Let’s hope the Russians aren’t stupid enough to take it that far. On the other hand, NATO will have to engage in conventional battle, otherwise they unleash Putin on themselves and the rest of the world.
NATO is going to have to fight this battle on the battlefield, if Putin continues his push West. NATO and Putin are running out of buffer.
So, is it the case that Russia is even now still pushing to take over all of Georgia, as well as pushing to take over Ukraine or install a puppet government there? Ukraine on their side wants to keep pushing to join NATO? There isn’t much dedication to having a buffer zone, as such, by anyone then?
Given that we are talking about how much better things might be, if only the West had maintained energy dominance relative to Russia, how does the idea of a West vs Russia buffer zone relate to that? Would the better course be to use energy as a lever to convince both sides to leave well enough alone, no ‘push to push’ more NATO presence up against Russia, with this bargained against no ‘push’ from their side either?
What I don’t quite follow is how nuclear deterrence is supposed to hold up if there is no less militaristic form of one-upmanship, like energy dominance or economic prowess, that both sides have good reasons to respect. If it is all paranoia about who can push into neighboring turf first, why we’re all just waiting for the Final Escalation, then!
There are skirmishes and there are full-scale invasions with all out warfare.
Russia invaded Czechoslovakia back in the 1950’s.
Is anyone else noticing a pattern here?
Unfortunately, those who should know better have adopted the Ostrich syndrome as their defence!!! I expect the sand is nice & warm on their beaks!!!
Actually, it was Hungary in 1956, and East Germany in 1953. Czecholslovakia was invaded in 1968.
Germany did it in the 30’s? France invaded it in the 1800’s when it was part of the Austrian (later Austro-Hungarian Empire). Honestly – you could say something similar about every country in Europe at one time or another. The pattern is that a lot of small countries in Europe get in the way of the big bully countries in Europe when they want to be bloody belligerent. And a lot of the larger countries of Europe have been in the category of ‘big bully countries’ – Putin’s just the latest in a very long list.
AND as said before the Intellectual Elites in the impotent EU Commission, pronounced that Russia had no historical links to The Crimea, they had a mental block on the Crimean War of 1853/4!!! That’s the level of intellect there is in Europe these days!!!
Russia has no historical links to the Crimea, but the Soviet Union had them by occupation and so did the Russian Empire. The modern Russian Federation has no historical links to the Crimea – make no mistake, those are 3 very different countries.
Russia didn’t invade Georgia per se. Georgia invaded South Ossetia (which had declared independance from Georgia) claiming it was theirs then Russia also invaded South Ossetia, kicking the Georgians out, claiming it was an autonomous, independent state. It’s a very complicated story, far more so than the media usually admits, made more so by the fact that Georgia and South Ossetia are both in Europe and Asia at one and the same time.
Here is Kerry, having a good old-fashioned melt-down because “climate change” is being put on the back burner now because of this stupid war.
Kerry is a disgrace, I have zero respect for him. It is scoundrels like Kerry that WUWT needs to target through the mainstream media. After listening to Kerry some may think what a moron he is not worth our time. You would be wrong, he is a very powerful and dangerous man. As much respect as I have for WUWT and WUWT readers they frustrate me with their endless haggling over whether this algorithm or equation is proper or whether this fellow has the proper understanding of this or that process. All of these things are important and can’t be ignored but they pale in comparison to neutralizing the likes of the bottom feeders like John Kerry.
Exactly.
The whole global warming / climate change / climate crisis construct always was, and is even more so now – entirely a political manoeuvre by globalist power seekers.
It’s just another phase of “The Long March Through The Institutions”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_march_through_the_institutions
Anyone who can’t see this and is taken in by “The Settled Science” needs to subject themselves to an adult rationality appraisal.
Urgently, before you deteriorate to stage Brandon.
You are certainly entitled to your opinion. However, to justify actions, there has to be a demonstrated error in what Kerry and those like him believe. Otherwise, it is just a ‘He said, she said’ situation.
Likewise you are entitled to your opinion. John Kerry has made it clear that man is responsible for catastrophic global warming, with precious little to back it up except computer models and anecdotal evidence. He is more concerned about his questionable climate theory than the fact that Russia has invaded the Ukraine. He seems to look at the attack as the equivalence of a traffic violation. In other words don’t let the killing of a few Ukrainians side track us from our climate fight. That sir is a dangerous person.
Of course he’s dangerous but nothing said here will ever scratch his surface.
The purpose of sites like this is to convince the average person who only hears propaganda of what the truth is
Once enough people understand the climate insane can no longer win
It’s been a long game to get here, the road back is long too
Pat you are right that Kerry and those like him could care less what people like me think. I understand that but the people at WUWT are far stronger than they think and they know a whale of a lot. Very smart people. Kerry can brush me off but not the collective knowledge of WUWT.
I suspect that you and some others misunderstood the point I was trying to make. I have no respect for Kerry. I was responding to the statement, “… they frustrate me with their endless haggling over whether this algorithm or equation is proper or whether this fellow has the proper understanding of this or that process.” I was trying to demonstrate the need for reasons and logic to counter the claims of the demented. Without that, it becomes a battle of unsupported opinions.
Clyde, you are not wrong. My frustration is the endless haggling between WUWT readers and contributors who are for the most part all on the same side. These are really smart people but they will spend hundreds of words splitting hairs on details that are important but not as important as convincing the average person that the science is not settled unless you are willing to settle for grossly inaccurate climate models and anecdotal evidence. Then you have scalawags like Kerry shamelessly trivializing the Russian invasion of Ukrainian and scolding us for not staying focused on global warming. You are also right thinking that we should all be using logic and reasoning to convince those who don’t agree with us. Logic and reason haven’t worked on Kerry and his followers. In my opinion it is time to beat them over the head with the truth until they see the light.
The lunatic fringe, gutter regressives never let facts (or lack thereof) stop them. Sometimes, it does just come down to “he said, she said” when you are dealing with an asymmetric argument (liars vs truth-tellers). Base what you say on strong evidence, then work from that perspective to confront the adversary.
That is the essence of the point I was trying to make.
John Kerry is just the tip of the Democratic Party “useful climate alarmist idiots” iceberg that have rained energy and economic destruction on global nations. The stupidity and arrogance of these incompetent buffoons is also shared by the media which have lied and manipulated false climate alarmists propaganda to help facilitate this needless and politically driven ignorance based destruction.
Kerry’s problem is this man, Sergey Glazyev, again President Putin’s advisor.
See for yourselves what is about to hit the financial markets.
Russia is definitely NOT ‘staying in line’ .
BLACK BOX DEFENCE FOR THE RUSSIAN ECONOMY – DOLLAR DEBT REPAYMENTS BLOCKED; GAS AND OIL DELIVERIES TO GERMANY STOPPED; OLIGARCH ASSETS NATIONALIZED
From the Finance Trader perspective these measures are already visible :
Putin Orders Companies To Make Debt Payments To Foreign Creditors In Rubles
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/putin-orders-companies-make-debt-payments-foreign-creditors-rubles
What Glazyev says about central banks applies to precisely also to ‘ours’. Who do you think Kerry, Biden, …. really serve?
See Executive Order 13990 – The Green Reset :
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2021/01/25/2021-01765/protecting-public-health-and-the-environment-and-restoring-science-to-tackle-the-climate-crisis
This is Kerry’s waking nightmare.
He personally refused to acknowledge Democrat FDR’s financial policies back in 2004, (under fraudulent partisan attack by GOP Cheney, the draft dodger, ‘vererans’ ) and now Russia goes ahead with exactly these policies.
Talk about blow-back!
Greek mythology has a word for this – the Erinyes.
Up to this point, I thought the shit show smelled pretty bad. It seems it is about to get messy.
He may be useful to Putin, but he’s useless to us.
Wow. WOW JOHN! Hold up a mirror to yourself!
I have lived in my present home for 30 years now and every spring between April 3rd plus or minus three days the hill in the shaded part of the pasture next to my home turns white with the flowers. I have been told they are “bloodroot” however they do not look like the ones I see on the internet when I looked up “Bloodroot.”
So will someone explain to me why this happens every year for the last 30 years if it is getting warmer.
That is a question that has vexed poets for ages – the last winter flower, or the first spring flower?
Jury is still out.
I’ve asked similar questions about the white pelicans that return to the small lakes and ponds in my part of Colorado. How do they know it’s April?
Anyway, plants generally like to be warm. Plants also like sunshine, carbon dioxide and not too much wind and water. But for sure, those plants left seeds or roots that sprang to life.
fairy enchantment?
This is obvious to those of us who have studied wildlife biology.
Every year on February 2, the worlds most famous groundhog, Punxsutawney Phil does his “see your shadow” thing. Behind the scenes, his work is just beginning. He tells the Bloodroots when it is time to flower, keeping them right on schedule.
@Scissor:
Pelicans, That is Punxsutawney Phil again. He is one busy groundhog this time of year.
Science!
Maybe in Colorado it’s April 1st if the pelican can see the shadow of its beak. They’re beautiful, graceful and intelligent birds in any case.
What’s explained above is only part of the story. They demanded and were given emissions limits based on the old Soviet Union as the story says, but now can sell their excess carbon credits to Britain and the EU.
“They [the West] even convinced themselves that climate change causes war, so climate change policy could double as national security policy'” Can’t make this up! – but they do, don’t they?
Could someone photoshop a picture of Chamberlain waving a climate agreement in the air with Kerry’s head?
Kerry is political poison at this point and Biden must know that, right (?)
Biden only knows something, in the short term, after he has been briefed on it. They could brief him on how invaluable Kerry is to the world well being on Monday, then on Friday brief him on the Kerry liability, and he would buy into the Friday briefing without much question.
That is part of the problem though. The Monday stuff is still rolling around in the background of his mind and he can’t reconcile it with the Friday pivot.
That also means the public relations teams (legions) are in turmoil in the back rooms.
Could this be a spark igniting WWIII.
Latest media report: the USA gave permission to Poland to send Russian made fighter planes to Ukraine.
I would be surprised if Russians did not know where these aircraft are hangared.
What if they attempt to use long range missiles and destroy planes while still on the ground in Poland?
How would NATO respond?
You have been warned, head for the hills and the deep caves, after all we are still genetically the cavemen.
p.s to fly missions these jet planes can’t do it from corn fields, they need runways to take off and land, surely they are not planing to do it from Poland?
It either starts now, or in a few years when Putin directly attacks Poland.
In 3 years, I will remind you of this failed proclamation. Putin has been very clear on Ukraine. We just didn’t listen or “we” wanted him to attack 😉
Putin has been very clear on the Baltic States also.
I’m reminded of Jenny’s abusive boyfriend in “Forest Gump”. It’s not my fault, it’s that bastard Johnson’s fault, he made me do it.
No matter what Putin does, Derg will find someone else to blame it on.
“ Latest media report: the USA gave permission to Poland to send Russian made fighter planes to Ukraine.”
Poland said that was fake news by Blinkin. Never underestimate the power of US propaganda. It is easily on par with Russia if not better.
Kerry’s stand-up routine on climate..
https://2009-2017.state.gov/secretary/remarks/2014/02/221704.htm
well, it made me laugh..
I usually like what Kerry says since each time he opens his mouith it provides evidence that he (and the green movement) is totally out to sea without any sail or rudder, disconnected from reality.
John Kerry must propose stopping the boiling of ketchup for worldwide distribution before anything he says I should do will make any sense.
See also Lord Moncton’s recent articles on KGB influence in the US. Kerry’s working for Putin, even if he doesn’t know it.
More likely China. Russia is small potatoes compared to China.
Absolutely no self awareness, never mind intelligence.
“Kerry continued, Putin would realize that Russia’s land is thawing..”
You would think war hero John Kerry never read military history (from Napoleon to WWII) or Russian literature. Did he not even sit through a screening of Dr Zhvago?
If the Finger Lakes region of NY had warmed a degree or two in the winter evenings I might not have relocated south.
PS Where is there observational evidence that parts of Russia are actually thawing?
Lurch! I mean really! Who actually listens to
This guy anymore and takes him seriously?
“… presidential climate envoy John Kerry expressed concern about the amount of greenhouse gas being emitted from the war in Ukraine.“
I’m sure Vlad Putin is buying carbon offsets
He won’t buy the credits. They’ll just plant trees when they are done. Like self-bonding insurance.
Putin could even plant extra trees, then let Lurch be the middleman and take a cut while selling the credits to Yale, Harvard, and Columbia. Then Lurch would in turn make a generous contribution (28% his cut) back to the ‘schools’.
UKRAINE NAZIS EMBRACE NATO AND THE SWASTIKA – ZELENSKY’S NAZI FRIENDS – CRIMES OF AZOV AND AIDAR BATTALIONS – MURDER OUTSIDE MARIUPOL
The European Parliament, the UN, CNN and Amnesty International have all exposed and condemned Nazism and war crimes in Ukraine in the past. But now they are silent. My 30 years of warnings about the corporatist fascist foundation and imperialist nature of the EU (and serious worries about NATO itself) are now playing out like a film script. This photo of the openly Nazi Ukrainian AZOV troops posing with both a swastika and a NATO flag says it all.
Before we look at the main Ukrainian Nazi groups fighting the Russians (and their own people see the horrific murders in the video from Mariupol blow) we must not forget that the totalitarian regime of President Zelensky is not the cuddly democrat of EU mythology.
A year ago Vladimir Zelensky «imposed sanctions» (!) on the mass media of his own country, shutting down TV channels 112 UA, News One and ZIK, firing all the journalists working there. At the time 112 UA and News One were the most watched channels in Ukraine.
In August 2021 Zelensky without any legal authority shut down the web news site Strana.ua and its editor-in-chief Igor Guzhva.
Also last year Zelensky put on trial the leader of the most popular party in Ukraine «Opposition Platform — for Life», Vadim Medvedchuk. Medvedchuk, who played an important role in the exchange of POWs, faced many years in prison for «contacts with the enemy», but in the end was placed under house arrest.
In Zelensky’s Ukraine thousands of Russians in the Donbass have been killed including some 150 children since 2014 (without any concern shown by the western press) Russians wee attacked for speaking their own language and could lose their jobs. Ukraine was almost certainly preparing to develop its own nuclear weapons – hence the Russian concentration on nuclear power plants.
Why would Russians having declared humanitarian corridors so as to attack Nazi Azov troops in Mariupol without harming civilians, then stop civilians leaving? What does make sense is that the Ukrainian forces in Mariupol want civilians in the town in order to hide behind them. Rodney Atkinson
http://freenations.net/ukraine-nazis-embrace-nato-and-the-swastika-zelenskys-nazi-friends-crimes-of-azov-and-aidar-battalions-murder-outside-mariupol/
The Russian trolls are out in force.
I wonder how the 13000 Russians who have been thrown in jail for the crime of disagreeing with this war feel about these lies?
If the case is so solid, why does Putin have to threaten 15 years of jail time for anyone who repeats information that isn’t government approved?
The world has gone topsy turvy. I’m agreeing with MarkW.
You can get therapy for that. You may well need it later!
Hanoi John they called him back when.
Nasty story about his fellow traveler Hanoi Jane.
After flying over open pit mines of the Athabaska Oil Sands, but apparently not reclaimed areas, she said it felt like skin was being torn off her face.
To which a conservative columnist noted that she has had much work done on her skin.
😉
Every time that I hear or read something Lurch has said, I think “is he really that clueless?”
Then I think back to the time when I met John Kerry face to face in 1970. I have to remind myself that yes, he was always that clueless.
“marks the end of the West’s Era of Illusions.” Wishful thinking. The writer underestimates the stupidity or corruption of the political left. They don’t care how their policies affect people’s lives – they just know it’s been good for slogans, contributions and getting elected. So far.
Here is a sampling of some true motivators….
Opposition politicians are demanding to know why Johnson gave a noble title and a seat in Parliament’s House of Lords to Evgeny Lebedev, the Russia-born owner of two British newspapers. His oligarch father Alexander Lebedev is a former KGB agent, and the Sunday Times newspaper reported that British intelligence agencies had expressed concerns about the 2020 appointment.
Stung by criticism, UK’s Johnson speeds up Russia sanctions – ABC News (go.com)
That sailboat is adrift.