We’re Saved!? Biden Admin: 7 federal agencies announce ‘plans that will activate the entire government to fight climate change’

From Climate Depot

By: Marc Morano – Climate Depot

New: Today, 7 federal agencies are announcing clean energy projects and plans that will activate the entire government to fight climate change, lower energy costs, create good-paying, union jobs, and accelerate America’s clean energy economy.
Details here: https://t.co/LoEBLyUX4u

— The White House (@WhiteHouse) January 12, 2022

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Flashback: ‘Every agency is a climate agency now’ – ‘How Biden could use his whole government to take on climate change’ – Education Dept to fund teachers ‘to raise awareness of climate’

– Incoming U.S. President Joe Biden has promised an “all-of-government” approach to fight climate change that would require federal agencies from the Defense Department to the Treasury to help the administration achieve its goal of sharply slashing nationwide greenhouse gas emissions. … 

“Every agency is a climate agency now,” said Sam Ricketts, co-founder of Evergreen Action, an advocacy group that advised Biden’s transition team on climate change. …

The Education Department could direct federal dollars toward funding of specialized teachers and programs to raise awareness of climate change and use its procurement powers to assist in the electrification of bus fleets and greening of school buildings.

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‘A whole-of-government approach’ – Climate will touch ‘every single piece’ of Biden’s budget

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Tom Halla
January 13, 2022 6:05 am

The return of the Green New Deal?

Scissor
Reply to  Tom Halla
January 13, 2022 6:27 am

More tax dollars down the shitter.

Windy Wilson
Reply to  Scissor
January 13, 2022 8:17 am

They’ll pay outrageous money to their cronies for programs with no visible effect, which admittedly is the same thing.

Steve Keohane
Reply to  Tom Halla
January 13, 2022 6:38 am

Just part of Build Back Broke.

Gregory Woods
Reply to  Steve Keohane
January 13, 2022 7:01 am

or Burn Down Better

MarkW
Reply to  Gregory Woods
January 13, 2022 8:05 am

Build Socialism Faster

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  MarkW
January 13, 2022 11:03 am

Build a Bigger Welfare State

Wayne Wilson
Reply to  Steve Keohane
January 13, 2022 8:21 am

Broke back biden

James Bull
Reply to  Steve Keohane
January 14, 2022 5:37 am

Here you go this is where all the magic money is coming from. 40% of US dollars printed in the last year.

40% of US dollars in existence were printed in the last 12 months: Is America repeating the same mistake of 1921 Weimar Germany?comment image
Nickie Louise
POSTED ON MAY 22, 2021

Here’s a video showing about hyper inflation and how the US and other countries are heading for it.

James Bull

Andre Thomas Lewis
Reply to  Steve Keohane
January 15, 2022 4:23 pm

Or Bring Back Bolshevism

Keitho(@bat1heavy)
Editor
Reply to  Tom Halla
January 13, 2022 7:07 am

The exhumation of the GND. It will stagger around zombie like till the stink overwhelms us and then it will vanish.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Keitho
January 13, 2022 11:03 am

Or it gets shot in the head.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  Tom Halla
January 13, 2022 7:56 am

Aka “Green Wheeling and Dealing”.

alastair gray
Reply to  Tom Halla
January 13, 2022 8:05 am

Good-bye America It was nice knowing you.
It’s like Peter Pan and Tinkerbell. Every time an American says “I believe in Catastrophic Global Warming” a little bit of the light that America shone on the world dies a lgutters and extinguishes. But Brandon Hook sails blithely on insulated in his cotton wool brain.

George Daddis
Reply to  Tom Halla
January 13, 2022 9:25 am

Absolutely!

BHO set the standard. If you can’t pass it, just do it!

Uncle Joe has a telephone and plenty of ink.

marlene
January 13, 2022 6:06 am

They want us to pay for their “climate change” scheme NOW. Investors are getting impatient for our money.

Quelgeek
Reply to  marlene
January 13, 2022 6:35 am

Bad enough if it were just our money. It is also our children’s, our grandchildren’s, and several more generations of descendent’s money. The money will be borrowed and will take literally hundreds of years to repay even at current levels of productivity and prosperity.

Well, naw, not really. It will be printed. And as long as the rate of printing stays just ahead of rate at which the declining value of the newly printed money is noticed, it will work. Until it doesn’t.

Ron Long
Reply to  Quelgeek
January 13, 2022 6:51 am

Quelgeek, “Bad enough if it were just our money.” Because it’s also the Defense Department, now focused on the Climate Change Fight to Save the Planet. Actually defend against a security threat, or to help friendly countries, or to honor treaty obligations? Forgetaboutit! What a mess.

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  Ron Long
January 13, 2022 8:04 am

Meanwhile, China now has the largest navy- sure, it’s not nearly as good as the smaller American military- but don’t underestimate China- look at its cities.

Frank from NoVA
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
January 13, 2022 8:58 am

No one thought very highly of the capabilities of Japanese warships and planes back in the day either.

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  Frank from NoVA
January 13, 2022 10:51 am

I just watched a panel discussion on Chinese military strategy, by the Hudson Institute and it was very disturbing.

“China’s Coercive Missile Strategy and the US Response”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SisBN8urqfQ&t=1417s

while the West focuses on the horrors of a deg C rise in temperature – China is preparing to rule the world

so much for having enriched American universities which wanted full paying customers- who came here and took home all our technology- the cost for tuition to get all that tech was a bargain

Fred Middleton
Reply to  Frank from NoVA
January 14, 2022 6:55 pm

At dawn we slept, United States. Obsolete battleships too slow to keep up with carriers, underfunded training and modernized equipment slow to appear. Japan paid a very high price in naval war.

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Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  Quelgeek
January 13, 2022 7:59 am

Sorry to be so abrupt, but everyone needs to get a clue: The US national debt will never, ever be “paid off”.

All that happens, ever into the future, is that the US will make payments for interest due on the national debt, even if that means taking on even more debt to make the interest payments!

Frank from NoVA
Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
January 13, 2022 9:05 am

Correct, and if they try to inflate it away, you can kiss the dollar goodbye as a working currency, as well. The only way this works out, albeit painfully, is to repudiate the debt on the basis that the populace never really consented to, or benefited from, it’s incursion.

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Philip
Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
January 13, 2022 9:05 am

Not entirely true. The way governments (well, Western governments) have been handling debt is to make inflation part of their financial master plan.

A 3% inflation rate pretty much halves the value of the currency in 10 years. If the government owes $10, it can just pay the interest, and ten years later, in real terms, the debt is now half of what it was.

Of course, it also means your salary is worth half of what it was. Did you ever wonder why annual wage increases (in “normal” times) were all ~3%?

This is why they go apoplectic at the prospect of deflation. For you and I it would be a wonderful thing. For them, it would mean that kicking the can down the road would no longer work. It would bite them, hard. They would have to pay their debs and live within their means.

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  Philip
January 13, 2022 9:20 am

Sorry, Phillip, but the “Rule of 72” says that it will take approximately 72/3 = 24 years (not 10) for a 3%/year inflation rate to halve any current value, in terms of spendable dollars.

Check it out: 0.97^24 = 0.48

Philip
Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
January 13, 2022 10:48 am

You are right … don’t know where 10 crept into my head from.
The principle still holds, just a slight longer time.

Maintain a 3% inflation rate and your debt pretty much clears itself. And it keeps the plebs quiet, giving them 3% pay rises each year, which really means that they stand still.

Mike Dubrasich
Reply to  Philip
January 13, 2022 12:51 pm

The current inflation rate is closer to 7%, which will halve the debt in ten years: 0.93^10=0.48, so you’re both right.

MarkW
Reply to  Philip
January 13, 2022 1:51 pm

The problem is that the debt is accumulating at a rate that exceeds 3%.

Joe Shaw
Reply to  Philip
January 13, 2022 4:57 pm

Interest payments on the debt also need to be considered. It may be possible to maintain low interest rates and high inflation in the short term. Over the longer term inflation will result in higher interest rates or capital starvation as financial institutions and investors decline to lend at reduced (or even negative) real interest rates. Every 1% increase in interest rates adds ~$230B in interest costs on the debt. Compounded. This ends badly.

Alan Robertson
Reply to  Quelgeek
January 13, 2022 8:08 am

The problem reduces to simple terms.
Find those who will ultimately collect the interest and you will find the ones behind the curtain of catastrophic climate change.

Peta of Newark
Reply to  Quelgeek
January 13, 2022 8:27 am

Or possibly the money will be, UK style – printed.

But even Governments cannot just give away that sort of money so it must first be laundered by brokers and dealers within the big financial institutions.
Of course that doesn’t come cheap, do we guess what, 10 15 or even 20% cut for the banks?

Whatever amount it is is more than sufficient to drive UK house market absolutely crazy as the value of rural properties across southern England skyrockets – the dealers and their spoilt brat kids want a ‘quiet life’ and as far away from Covid as they can get.

It will certainly destroy Boris, if his drunken party going excesses don’t bring him down first.
Because that massively growing North South wealth divide will lose him all the votes that got him and the Conservatives into power

Then, nightmare upon nightmare, what depths of (green and otherwise) Tyranny ## will the socialists plumb?

interesting times

## That Uttig fellow or whatever his name was from Cambridge, as covered here twice was simply basically A Squirrel.

His Total Control vision gave the impression that there was plenty time to put the brakes on the advancing tyranny, that it was a threat in the medium to long term.

wrong wrong wrong. Its already here

As in the story about twin Smart meters, one for your house, the other for your car = just about the only freedom, joy and liberty western folks now enjoy.

How would you classify Boris’ diktats about heat pumps and electric cars – that in any normal timescale, he’s asking that they all be deployed ‘yesterday’

Thomas Gasloli
Reply to  marlene
January 13, 2022 7:49 am

Well those “investors” did fund the Democrat takeover; need a return on investment before the midterm.

ResourceGuy
January 13, 2022 6:07 am

Deploy the special union forces and crack advocacy storm troopers.

yirgach
January 13, 2022 6:09 am

Are We Not Men?

Scissor
Reply to  yirgach
January 13, 2022 6:30 am

Wearing pantyhose.

yirgach
Reply to  Scissor
January 13, 2022 3:32 pm

1978 – Dig the Masks!

RevJay4
January 13, 2022 6:12 am

Aha! There’s the reason for the “blast wall” around the WH. Most critical thinking common sense folks know there is no “climate change” crisis. Taking more money from the citizens will solve nothing, just make the elite wanna be dictators richer.
Just sayin’.

January 13, 2022 6:13 am

Will Joe Biden invest enough? I heard a figure of just $500 billion total to fight climate change…will that be enough to save us?

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  Anti-griff
January 13, 2022 8:06 am

Nowhere near enough.

Just yesterday, WUWT posted an article by Ken Gregory that priced the cost of the US going to “net zero emissions” for just electricity generation in the US at USD $433 TRILLION . . . yes, TRILLIONS (see https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/01/12/the-cost-of-net-zero-electrification-of-the-u-s-a-blog-post/ )

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  Anti-griff
January 13, 2022 8:06 am

more like 500 trillion

alastair gray
Reply to  Anti-griff
January 13, 2022 8:08 am

Multiply that by one thousand and you will be close

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  alastair gray
January 13, 2022 11:42 am

There are some things that money can’t buy! Building batteries from unavailable cobalt is one of them. Another, is protecting people from the effects of energy poverty when the electrification plan is held up by supply line issues.

The wealthy tend to think that anything can be obtained for the right price. However, if it takes more energy to produce energy sources or storage than they can produce over their lifetime, then it is a net loss that can’t be sustained long-term.

Max P
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
January 13, 2022 1:44 pm

Besides, there comes a point where even gold has no intrinsic value because, you can’t eat gold, and anyone who has food to eat, water to drink and a warm place to sleep, isn’t parting with it. Welcome to the universe of Mad Max.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Anti-griff
January 13, 2022 12:12 pm

Since they’ll be chasing unicorns, it will all be spent needlessly, regardless of the amount.

roaddog
Reply to  Anti-griff
January 13, 2022 10:05 pm

There can never be enough taxation to save us. Its in the Democratic party platform.

Andy Wilkins
January 13, 2022 6:20 am

 lower energy costs

They must have they been building more coal fired power stations

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  Andy Wilkins
January 13, 2022 6:53 am

They have to raise them before they can lower them.

Rainer Bensch
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
January 14, 2022 4:19 am

Raise by 5, lower by 2.

ResourceGuy
January 13, 2022 6:24 am

We must save the midterm elections, I mean the planet!

LdB
Reply to  ResourceGuy
January 13, 2022 6:23 pm

The problem is that isn’t the demographic that is going to swing against them 🙂

Paul Hurley (aka PaulH)
January 13, 2022 6:26 am

This looks like the same goofy approach Trudeau is using in Canada. Every federal government department is mandated to “do something” about global warming/global weirding/climate change.

DMacKenzie
Reply to  Paul Hurley (aka PaulH)
January 13, 2022 7:23 am

Trudeau mandated “stopping subsidies to oil companies”….could only find loans to 3rd world energy projects to halt (anti-poverty money needed in those countries)….otherwise it was Canadian governments at various levels who received huge amounts of tax money from the energy industry.

Ebor
Reply to  DMacKenzie
January 13, 2022 7:39 am

“Governments and financial institutions are pushing to wean the world from fossil fuels to address climate change. But demand for energy remains robust.”

From today’s WSJ about how the evil Canadian tar sands are still producing oil b/c of wicked robust demand…

Timo, not that one
Reply to  Paul Hurley (aka PaulH)
January 14, 2022 8:13 am

Every federal government department is mandated to “do something” about global warming”

I remember when that meant, “Remember to turn off the light switch when you leave the room”.

Lance Flake
January 13, 2022 6:33 am

If they do as good a job as everything else this administration has done then nothing will actually happen

Curious George(@moudryj)
Reply to  Lance Flake
January 13, 2022 7:50 am

No. They’ll fight “climate change” as successfully as they fought Taliban.

Thomas Gasloli
Reply to  Lance Flake
January 13, 2022 7:50 am

While spending billions on it anyway.😃

Mike Dubrasich
Reply to  Thomas Gasloli
January 13, 2022 12:55 pm

$Trillions. Their fanaticism to steal your money is boundless.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Mike Dubrasich
January 15, 2022 12:14 pm

Now that we’re talking hundreds of trillions, who will be the first to demand spending $1 quadrillion?

Gregory Woods
January 13, 2022 6:36 am

We’re doomed….

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Gregory Woods
January 13, 2022 11:45 am

Unfortunately, you just may be right! While the captain of the B Ark plays with his rubber ducky, the ship is on course to crash.

Gregory Woods
January 13, 2022 6:38 am

New: Today, 7 federal agencies are announcing clean energy projects and plans that will activate the entire government to fight climate change, lower energy costs, create good-paying, union jobs, and accelerate America’s clean energy economy.

But what about a good 5 cent cigar?

Reply to  Gregory Woods
January 13, 2022 7:20 am

….that would be a 5 dollar…or 50 dollar cigar today.

Ebor
Reply to  Anti-griff
January 13, 2022 7:42 am

Sadly, anything you like must be excessively taxed to save you from yourself.

Gregory Woods
January 13, 2022 6:41 am

Traitor Joe goes full out to sabotage the US economy…

Steven Curtis Lohr
January 13, 2022 6:49 am

We’ll all be drinkin’ that free Bubbleup and Eatin’ that Rainbow Stew!!!

Dave O.
January 13, 2022 6:51 am

Looks like they’re invoking the “good paying jobs” mantra.

Andrew Wilkins
Reply to  Dave O.
January 13, 2022 9:16 am

The phrase “good paying jobs” always amuses me:
Exactly how is a coal miner supposed to suddenly have the transferable skills to build wind turbines?
Once again, green ideas sound so perfect until reality slaps them in the face with a broken solar panel.

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Tom Abbott
Reply to  Dave O.
January 13, 2022 9:19 am

Good paying UNION jobs.

I don’t think Joe Biden has ever said jobs without including “union” in there. You see, the unions give Biden lots of money so he promotes unions at every opportunity.

John Bell
January 13, 2022 6:53 am

Scary, ain’t it? When they want to use OUR money to chase an imaginary bogey man, and the solution is to destroy the economy in the name of helping.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  John Bell
January 13, 2022 11:47 am

“We’re from the government and we’re here to help you.”

Words to strike fear in the hearts of any thinking person.

Steve Oregon
January 13, 2022 6:54 am

I wish they would simply explain how all of this so called “climate fight” will benefit the climate and cite the science that indicates how the fight will change the climate.
Of course if there really were any climate correcting possible they wouldn’t have to use words like fight, address, confront, battle or deal with.

Phillip Bratby
January 13, 2022 6:55 am

I spy a disaster in the making. is it 1984 yet?

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  Phillip Bratby
January 13, 2022 8:10 am

The next election will be a disaster for the Democrats.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
January 13, 2022 11:48 am

Unless they perfect the federal fraud scheme before then.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Phillip Bratby
January 13, 2022 9:23 am

Its getting closer. We may be saved from a full-blown 1984, by the U.S. elections that take place in November. Let us pray.

ResourceGuy
January 13, 2022 6:56 am

Only union climate warriors are accepted.

Rick
January 13, 2022 7:09 am

“We’re the government, and we’re here to help!” More money for more nutjob teachers???

What could go wrong with this plan?!!!

gringojay
Reply to  Rick
January 13, 2022 7:34 am

Vote counters’ lives matter.

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Tom Abbott
Reply to  Rick
January 13, 2022 9:30 am

What could go wrong? Well, these agencies could spend their time worrying about climate change instead of doing the job their agencies were created for.

What priority is climate change to the Defense Department? Are hypersonic missiles a higher priority than climate change? Let’s hope so. I’m not sure with Biden in charge. No telling what is going on in that distorted mind.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Tom Abbott
January 13, 2022 11:51 am

I saw Biden in a ‘presser’ this morning. He still has the capacity to read from a teleprompter. However, I would say that the man is not well. He looked like a deer in headlights after he finished reading the teleprompter.

Mike Dubrasich
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
January 13, 2022 1:04 pm

Whenever Joe Aneurysm gets apoplectic and pounds the podium, his staff hold their breaths watching for the stroke out. It’s like a train wreck: horrible to see but you can’t look away.

MarkW
Reply to  Mike Dubrasich
January 13, 2022 2:03 pm

If Biden does have a stroke, would his staffers actually tell anyone?
If they speak up, Harris gets to take over. The only politician in the country who is less popular and less competent than Joe Biden.

roaddog
Reply to  MarkW
January 13, 2022 10:09 pm

Have you met Adam Schiff?

Dave Andrews
Reply to  Tom Abbott
January 14, 2022 9:33 am

Check out Military Expert Panel Report ‘Sea Level Rise and the US Military’s Mission’ 2nd Edition, Feb 2018.

There are probably others.

Carlo, Monte
January 13, 2022 7:10 am

FJB

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
January 13, 2022 9:33 am

Impeach and remove JB for dereliction of his duties.

Impeach and remove Kamala for being too stupid to serve in this capacity.

AWG
January 13, 2022 7:33 am

How is this not instituting a National Religion?

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  AWG
January 13, 2022 8:11 am

It is indeed and we must worship the Green God.

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Pflashgordon
Reply to  AWG
January 13, 2022 11:24 am

Separation of church and state. The administration could be sued on religious grounds.

AWG
January 13, 2022 7:36 am

What if Trump, when he was fooling around in office, declared by fiat that all agencies would “Activate the Entire Government” into stopping illegal immigration?

Same sort of enthusiasm among the elite and The Ruling Class?

January 13, 2022 7:46 am
Thomas Gasloli
January 13, 2022 7:47 am

“The Education Department could direct federal dollars toward funding of specialized teachers…” = train teachers to brainwash children with political propaganda.

ResourceGuy
January 13, 2022 7:53 am

Bang the drums! Make noise! Look busy! But don’t get blamed for inflation, job loss, or doing your day job.

CD in Wisconsin
January 13, 2022 7:54 am

“New: Today, 7 federal agencies are announcing clean energy projects and plans that will activate the entire government to fight climate change, lower energy costs, create good-paying, union jobs, and accelerate America’s clean energy economy.”

************

And here I thought that the union of church and state was unconstitutional. Silly me, I should have known better.

Gordon A. Dressler
January 13, 2022 7:55 am

With the recent government announcement that inflation in the US from Dec2020 to Dec 2021 ran at 7% (meaning that real inflation was more like 14%), this is just what US citizens need at this time: more government spending on useless virtue-signaling.

What? . . . anyone think any possible reduction in US CO2 emissions will make a squat’s difference in comparison to the massive increases in CO2 emissions coming from China and India as they roll out tens, if not hundreds, of coal-fired power plants in just the next decade?

George V
January 13, 2022 7:56 am

I expect most of the CO2 reduction will come from cutting the operational budget of the Pentagon. Stop running those ships and tanks and airplanes – that’ll make the world a better place.

Meanwhile, the bureaucracy, the offices filled with drones at desktops, the servers humming away to store petabytes of data that’s never used.. that will only increase, requiring more power, as new programs are created to “combat” climate change.

griff
Reply to  George V
January 13, 2022 8:00 am

The Pentagon is already making a substantial contribution by switching to renewables (and saving money in the process)

for example:
Schneider Electric adds solar + storage to U.S. Air Force Special Operations Command center (solarpowerworldonline.com)

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  griff
January 13, 2022 8:10 am

griff,

Ever heard of the term “insignificant blip”?

It applies to your only cited example of a “significant contribution”.

And thank you for my laugh-of-the-day!

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
January 13, 2022 8:18 am

The sky is green in griff-world.

Mr.
Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
January 13, 2022 10:34 am

Indeed.
Remote area mines and outback cattle stations have been using these kinds of supplemental electricity sources for decades.
Saves $$$s on expensive diesel fuel needed for the mainstay power generation plants – diesel powered generators.

(Oh, of course they also use wind power whenever they can. Just as they do for pumping water up from artesian basins)

But what isolated remote bases can get by with does not mean that towns, cities, statewide grids can adopt the same measures.

A fact that is lost to uncomprehending, innumerate solar & wind acolytes.

MarkW
Reply to  griff
January 13, 2022 8:11 am

While the Pentagon is switching to renewables, they are not saving money by doing so. Nobody is.
BTW, how does following the demand of the politicians translate into we are doing this because we want to?

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  griff
January 13, 2022 8:36 am

They are most especially not saving money. The US government doesn’t get to farm those subsidies and feed-in tariffs like the rest of us, so their costs are up front for all to see. Not to mention, a lot of what they are doing at your link is just run-of-the-mill infrastructure upgrades which would make sense even without the solar and battery baggage.

ResourceGuy
Reply to  griff
January 13, 2022 8:43 am

During the Obama years, we had cases of rooftop solar being added to VA hospitals while inside the building the deadly waiting list for services was being undercounted in reporting. That’s a case of misplaced priorities that kills people who served the country.

John Hultquist
Reply to  ResourceGuy
January 13, 2022 9:21 am
Andrew Wilkins
Reply to  griff
January 13, 2022 9:20 am

The US Air Force is using solar?
Let’s hope they never want to carry out any night-time ops.

Andrew Wilkins
Reply to  griff
January 13, 2022 9:22 am

Where will they be parking their solar powered fighter planes?
Oh, hang on….

Peter W
Reply to  griff
January 13, 2022 9:34 am

Think of how much it would help if we converted all the navy ships to nuclear power!

TonyG
Reply to  Peter W
January 13, 2022 10:27 am

A nuclear PT would be amusing.

MarkW
Reply to  TonyG
January 13, 2022 2:07 pm

For something that small we would need to use anti-matter.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  griff
January 13, 2022 11:55 am

Those solar-powered tanks will be particularly effective for night assaults.

Chaswarnertoo
Reply to  griff
January 13, 2022 12:41 pm

Jeez griff. You are Fick.

fretslider
January 13, 2022 7:56 am

Tilting at windmills is all the rage nowadays.

The war on disease
The war on drugs
The war on obesity
The war on loneliness 
War on want

Etc

All the above and more waste time fighting enemies or trying to resolve issues that are imaginary, unimportant, or impossible to overcome.

Zero covid – a complete non-starter
Many humans like taking drugs
Many humans will be fat
Many humans will be lonely

So what’s new?

Fighting climate change – pointlessly reviewed at 30 year intervals.

griff
January 13, 2022 7:58 am

I believe Biden’s bill contains money for forest management… surely Watts readers are all in favour of that?

fretslider
Reply to  griff
January 13, 2022 8:03 am

“forest management”

So you’ve come round to our way of thinking, griff? Environmental management works, loony rewilding doesn’t.

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griff
Reply to  fretslider
January 14, 2022 2:12 am

I am all in favour of forest management – I just don’t think lack of it is driving the increase in fires/scale of fires.

I note nations outside the Us seeing a rise in fires, where they have almost perfect/textbook forest management

Dave Andrews
Reply to  griff
January 14, 2022 9:40 am

Such as where for example?

MarkW
Reply to  griff
January 13, 2022 8:32 am

Because 0.1% of the expenditures are for something we agree with, therefore we are obligated to support the onter 99.9%?

MarkW
Reply to  MarkW
January 13, 2022 2:10 pm

I was expecting someone to make a comment about that’s how modern politics works.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  griff
January 13, 2022 8:37 am

U.S. government, to trees:
Hi, we’re from the government, and we’re here to help.
Trees (running away) “AAAAAAAUUUUUUGHGGGGG!!!!!”

fretslider
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
January 13, 2022 8:40 am

Are you sure they are not Ents?

MarkW
Reply to  fretslider
January 13, 2022 2:08 pm

Ents are smart enough to not let agents of the government close to them in the first place.

ResourceGuy
Reply to  griff
January 13, 2022 8:40 am

At what cost in the other areas when considering the whole?

ResourceGuy
Reply to  griff
January 13, 2022 9:25 am

You forgot that Americans are not supposed to read what’s in the bill till after the vote, according to Dear Leader Nancy.

Andrew Wilkins
Reply to  griff
January 13, 2022 9:27 am

I think Hitler’s mob did quite a good job of building a cheap car for people to use, and Hugo Boss designed him some very natty uniforms. That doesn’t mean I think the rest of his policies were worth supporting.

Griff, your lack of simple clarity of thought is astounding.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Andrew Wilkins
January 13, 2022 12:00 pm

Griff, your lack of simple clarity of thought is astounding.

It probably explains why he holds the opinions he does.

The Dark Lord
Reply to  griff
January 13, 2022 10:21 am

so what ? 1 item in a laundry list of hundreds of wasteful and useless spending …

Joseph Zorzin
January 13, 2022 8:00 am

“…. funding of specialized teachers and programs to raise awareness of climate change …”

Yikes, you mean the fact that it’s in every newspaper, magazine and TV news program isn’t enough? Everyone’s already heard the story.

fretslider
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
January 13, 2022 8:49 am

raise awareness “

Aka keeping them [sort of] relevant

Joseph Zorzin
January 13, 2022 8:01 am

“… greening of school buildings… “

OK, OK, let’s invest in green paint.

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
January 13, 2022 8:39 am

Hey, hey! Let’s be specific; forest green paint. Now you’re going green and being all woodsy!

John Hultquist
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
January 13, 2022 9:26 am

Years ago, US Forest Services vehicles were a woodsy green. Now they are white. Explain that!

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  John Hultquist
January 13, 2022 12:07 pm

Some bureaucrat with nothing to do decided on a change in colors to justify his/her salary.

Annual Review: Implemented a significant change in the color scheme for USFS vehicles to symbolize the purity of the purpose of the agency. Added staff to keep the vehicles washed to remove the ubiquitous reddish dust from the unpaved roads.

MarkW
Reply to  John Hultquist
January 13, 2022 2:12 pm

They kept losing track of the green vehicles?

Joe Shaw
Reply to  John Hultquist
January 13, 2022 5:08 pm

Maybe they needed the pigment for greenwashing?

Something like the old WWII “Lucky Strike Green has Gone to War” campaign.

Windy Wilson
January 13, 2022 8:15 am

Wait, wait, WAIT! If the government is going to fight climate change, instead of inflation or the death of good paying jobs due to flooding the market with people willing to work for Depression Era wages, I want global warming if I’m going to have to live under a bridge.

michel
January 13, 2022 8:35 am

One doesn’t know whether to conclude that its hysterical religious mania, which would be one relatively benign explanation.

Or whether its a deliberate attempt to distract the population with irrelevancies to divert from very serious problems that people don’t want to talk about.

Whichever, its totally irrational for the following reason above all others. If you are a country which is doing 5 billion tons a year out of a global total of 37 billion, and you have failed to persuade the rest of the world to reduce, you are clean out of chips. There is nothing you can do about climate change on your own.

You have, in the course of the last few years, what with Afghanistan and the cities going up in flames, and the election, lost all the force of example you used to have. No-one is listening. If they are looking for an example to follow, they are looking to China, whose approach is to talk politely about climate change and grow the economy as fast as humanly possible.

The most realistic expectation for the next 5 – 10 years is that global emissions rise to north of 40 billion tons a year. If America pulls out all the stops, maybe it knocks 2 – 3 billion tons a year off this. So we don’t have 45 billion tons, we have 42 pr 43.

On the theory which is motivating these pronouncements, what is needed is not 42 as opposed to 45, but more like down to 10 billion tons in about 2035-40.

People need to get real. And they need to understand that in real terms, America is no longer a large enough economy to make much difference to global emissions by anything it does.

I do not believe its actually possible for any American government to reduce emissions by half. Its only a four year term. By the time it gets started enough for people to have experienced the real economic effects and see how little effect its having on either climate or other country plans, there will be an election, and the party responsible will be toast. It will be wipeout at the Presidential election and at all the Congressional and Senate elections.

Democrats and liberal voters should hope and pray this is no more than rhetoric. Because if its real and serious and implementation is attempted, they are doomed.

Gordon A. Dressler
January 13, 2022 9:01 am

If there is any logic at all in the US government’s position of “fighting climate change”, as alluded to the the above article’s title, then the government necessarily must have a firm position on the target “climate” to be achieved, from which all effort will be expended to fight any further change.

I, for one, have never heard any US government official’s or US scientific organization’s or IPCC’s or COP’s or Paris Accord’s definition of what that target climate should be.

That is, is it a certain climate that existed more than 200 years ago (prior to the Industrial Revolution) or the one that exists right now or the one that will exist in 2050?

And, of course, is there “one stable climate that fits all” on planet Earth?

Finally, I apologize for leading everyone on with the stated presumption in my very first sentence: “If there is any logic at all . . .”

John Hultquist
Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
January 13, 2022 9:49 am

a firm position on the target “climate”

Here you are, Gordon. Why 350? – MN350

This was written when CO2 was 400 ppm. About 1988?
Mauna Loa report for January 12, 2022, is 418.18 ppm.
While this is just one day’s data point, the monthly mean will be close to 418.
The two Bills, McKibben & Nye, are revered by government officials, so we can assume that at 350 ppm we will have a Goldilocks Climate.

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  John Hultquist
January 13, 2022 12:10 pm

Sorry, John, but if you reread my previous post I clearly stated I never heard of any scientific organization defining what the target climate should be.

First, mn350.com is not a scientific organization. At their website, which you linked, under their article titled “Why 350?”, they state:

a) “Countless scientists, climate experts, and governments officials agree that 350 ppm is the ‘safe’ level of carbon dioxide.” Of course, they give no reference(s) to support that absurd claim. And, on a more elementary level, the deemed-“safe” concentration (indeed any reasonable concentration) of CO2 in Earth’s atmosphere does NOT establish climate, as is well known by any person that has cared to look objectively at paleoclimatology data over, say, the last 600 million years.

b) “As far back as 1896, founders of modern science connected industrial coal burning to high atmospheric carbon with global warming.” History shows that overwhelming majority of the “founders of modern science” did not give a shist about whether of not atmospheric CO2 played any role whatsoever in Earth warming during the Holocene. What? . . . you really think scientists such as Issac Newton, Blaise Pascal, Robert Boyle, Edward Jenner, Louis Pasteur, Charles Darwin, William Kelvin, Thomas Edison, Madam Curie, Michael Faraday, James Maxwell, Nikola Tesla, Max Planck, Albert Einstein, Niels Bohr, Erwin Schrodinger, Edwin Hubble, Robert Oppenheimer, Richard Feynman, and Stephen Hawking (to name just a few!) amongst themselves wrote even one single scientific paper or article connecting coal burning to global warming? If so, show the proof.

c) “That’s why MN350’s mission is to bring Minnesotans into the global 350.org movement, fighting climate change on a local level to create a just and healthy future for all.” Thank the good Lord that mn350.com’s stated agenda is limited to just Minnesota.

Oh, and for what it’s worth, neither Bill McKibben nor Bill Nye rate the title of scientist . . . rather the term “poser” is much more fitting for their career description as well as current job title. No wonder they are “revered by government officials” (your words). 🙂

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
January 13, 2022 12:10 pm

It should be somewhere between 0 and 100 deg C.

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
January 13, 2022 12:26 pm

Clyde,

That’s a start, but you won’t get anywhere in today’s world if you assert that temperature is the sole parameter defining “climate”.

roaddog
Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
January 13, 2022 10:17 pm

Everyone wants the climate to be forever as it was that glorious summer in high school when they lost their virginity. Results may vary.

F. Ross
January 13, 2022 9:11 am

To quote General McAuliffe (Battle of the Bulge, WWII):

“NUTS”

George Daddis
January 13, 2022 9:23 am

“Every agency is a climate agency now,”
Funny me. I thought the Dept of Defense should be about defense, the Justice Dept about justice, Agriculture Dept about agriculture, the Dept of Education should be about just go away!

Peter W
Reply to  George Daddis
January 13, 2022 9:39 am

Apparently you believe in “old think!”

Chaswarnertoo
Reply to  George Daddis
January 13, 2022 12:39 pm

Report for reeducation!

John the Econ
January 13, 2022 9:29 am

They’re just creating phony jobs for all of the otherwise economically useless people that have racked up almost 2-trillion in student loan debt.

crosspatch
January 13, 2022 10:04 am

It was estimated in 2019 that the US produced about 11% of global GHG emissions (our proportion has probably declined since due to increases in rest of the world emissions). It is estimated by Stanford University that global GHG emissions declined 7% in 2020 due to covid mitigations reducing transportation and industrial energy demands.

In 2020 with a reduction of the equivalent of 2/3 of the US GHG emissions we saw no decline in global atmospheric CO2 content. In fact, we did not even see a decline in the rate of RISE in global CO2.

I see no evidence that US policy can have any measurable impact on global GHG increase let alone any impact on climate.

James F. Evans
January 13, 2022 10:31 am

Disaster for the USA.

Political catastrophe for Biden.

Everything Biden touches turns to you know what.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  James F. Evans
January 13, 2022 12:12 pm

It used to be known as the ‘Midas’ Touch. It should be changed to the Biden Touch.

Robert Hanson
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
January 13, 2022 1:46 pm

Political catastrophe for Biden”

Only is there are free and fair elections. The Dems are counting on preventing that.

MarkW
Reply to  Robert Hanson
January 13, 2022 2:15 pm

And if you disagree with what the Democrats are doing, you are the equivalent of Jefferson Davis, seeking to tear the country apart.

Andy Pattullo
January 13, 2022 10:44 am

Unfortunately this carries on a long history of distractions of no value to anyone but robbers and thieves for the entire federal government so they can fritter away the wealth and future of taxpayers tilting at windmills while the country slides into oblivion. Biden should be taking up fiddling lessons very soon and building a giant bonfire on the White House lawn to warm him while he fiddles.

Pflashgordon
January 13, 2022 11:14 am

Obviously, Biden hates America and American workers. His plan as described targets only union workers, who are only 12-13% of the labor force. So he is grossly discriminating against the vast majority of workers to give special privileges to the few. That is far worse than alleged systemic racism.

MarkW
Reply to  Pflashgordon
January 13, 2022 2:16 pm

Speaking of systemic racism, the Biden admin is still defending it’s desire to use race as the most important criteria in determining who gets medical attention for anything COVID related.

griff
Reply to  MarkW
January 14, 2022 2:10 am

If race is a determining factor in who needs hospitalisation, then prescribing treatment based on that makes sense

Max P
Reply to  griff
January 14, 2022 11:35 am

That is not how the criteria is being set. Race is the only determining factor regardless of age or other risk factors.

Jeff Alberts
January 13, 2022 11:14 am

create good-paying, union jobs”

It’s not the government’s job to create jobs. Its job is to provide a stable framework, so that businesses, entrepreneurs, can prosper. Those businesses will create jobs, jobs that people actually want. And they’ll make products that people actually want.

Chaswarnertoo
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
January 13, 2022 12:38 pm

Government never creates jobs. Unless you count digging holes and filling them in again without planting the trees.

Mike Jonas(@egrey1)
Editor
January 13, 2022 11:26 am

What frightens me is how long Joe Biden has been president. I am at an age where time seems to go faster and faster – the birthdays and Christmases that took for ever to arrive in my youth now just whizz by. Donald Trump was in and out of power in the blink of an eye, But since Joe Biden was elected, time has almost stood still. It seems like he has been president for ever, yet he’s only a quarter of the way through his first (and surely only) term.

There is so much time now for reflection on all the major issues, but in the mainstream media there is no reflection at all. The same propaganda is pumped out svery day, and it is every bit as absurd as Baghdad Bob telling Iraq and the world one thing while the opposite could be seen happening behind him. So it is with climate and renewable energy propaganda: While we are being told for the 365th time in 12 months that lower renewable energy costs are driving down the cost of electricity, for example, we can clearly see electricity prices going up. Yet there is never any discussion or reflection in the mainstream media.

Western democracy is in a terrible state, almost completely hijacked by green marxism. While we still have our democratic institutions we have some sort of a chance, but first something in green marxism has to break. It will be miserable for Californians, but maybe the collapse of California’s electricity system can be the break we all need. Californians can take comfort from the reflection that while there will be a lot of pain from electricity system collapse, it is as nothing beside the steadily increasing pain of continuing as is.

That is a reflection that will not be seen in the mainstream media of course. Californians will have to do their own reflecting. Or maybe those who can reflect have already left.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Mike Jonas
January 13, 2022 12:22 pm

I am at an age where time seems to go faster and faster – the birthdays and Christmases that took for ever to arrive in my youth now just whizz by.

I observe the same effect. I suspect that it is because we subjectively perceive time as the fraction of time we have experienced.

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Doonman
January 13, 2022 11:40 am

Joe Biden graduated at the top of his class with 3 degrees.

Why don’t you think he can fight climate change too?

It’s easy. All you need to do is print more money and hand it out to your friends.

Joao Martins
January 13, 2022 11:47 am

Have they already ordered the Wonder Twin suits for all the staff?

Chaswarnertoo
January 13, 2022 12:36 pm

It is now totally moral to evade taxes.

January 13, 2022 1:29 pm

From tomorrow the whole of the US Federal Government will be manning giant Punkahs, day and night.

stinkerp
January 13, 2022 1:40 pm

Are you troubled by strange noises in the middle of the night? Do you experience feelings of dread in your basement or attic? Have you or your family every seen a spook, specter, or climate change? If the answer is yes then don’t wait another minute. Pick up your phone and call the professionals: Climatebusters.

Their courteous and efficient staff is on call 24 hours a day to serve all your supernatural elimination needs.

Last edited 14 days ago by stinkerp
Max P
Reply to  stinkerp
January 14, 2022 11:40 am

The ghosts, spooks and specters in GhostBusters just MIGHT be more real than catastrophic climate change.

S.K.
January 13, 2022 2:42 pm

the biden regime just got killed in the crib

not only is the democrats voting rights bill dead so is build back broke.

the dead voting bill means the democrats can no longer steal elections

responsible government is coming 100 seats, 100 years

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/01/sinema-deals-fatal-blow-democrats-voting-rights-bill-two-days-biden-calls-senate-nuke-filibuster-video/

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Joe Shaw
Reply to  S.K.
January 13, 2022 5:18 pm

Likely failure of the democrat voting rights bill only means that their ability to bias elections nationwide will be constrained. They will still be able to stack the deck in states and cities they control. E.g., expect to hear more about non-citizen voting as a human right.

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S.K.
Reply to  Joe Shaw
January 14, 2022 7:18 am

it won’t be enough to give them a majority or control.

democrat party is finished.

Rob_Dawg
January 13, 2022 4:20 pm

I must be old. I remember when we got to vote on this stuff.

January 13, 2022 9:41 pm

In view of the Minoan, Roman, Medieval and current warm periods each being roughly 1000 years apart and warmer than now, how can one justify saying that whatever caused those first three warm periods quit causing warm periods just in time for man’s CO2 to take over the task of causing warm periods about every 1000 years?

griff
Reply to  JimK
January 14, 2022 2:08 am

How can you say that rising CO2 from human activity is not a new and additional driver of climate change, on top of previous natural cycles?

Reply to  griff
January 14, 2022 2:18 am

griff–“How can you say that rising CO2 from human activity is not a new and additional driver of climate change, on top of previous natural cycles”
Simple: A new cause is not needed (Occam’s razor).
Until we are warmer than those past warm periods, there is NOTHING TO EXPLAIN with man’s CO2.
Or are you claiming that whatever caused those earlier, warmer, warm periods just quit causing warm periods so that man’s CO2 could take over the job of causing warm periods about every 1000 years? LAUGHABLE!

Vincent Causey
January 14, 2022 12:09 am

Why do they always prefix jobs with “union” in America? I’ve never heard that term used in the UK.

Reply to  Vincent Causey
January 14, 2022 2:19 am

Because Joe Biden is pandering to the trade unions. He is one of the very few that use that phrase.

James Bull
January 14, 2022 5:21 am

I think I can sum this up as.

Oh bloody hell, or as Frazer in Dad’s Army would put it “We’re doomed”

Having watched the questioning of some of those chosen to run said agencies. Unless they have better brains than those on display at the question time they’re going to struggle with anything that requires thought apart from spouting nonsense their only qualification seemed to be that they were in the right equity group.

James Bull

tygrus
January 23, 2022 8:07 pm

By your powers combined, I am Captain Planet!

With enough smokescreens, budget shuffling & group think we can defeat our enemies who use facts against us. Green policies are great as long as someone else pays for them & people who make the policies don’t have to follow the same advice.

Sorry to the green cape crusaders, you can fool some people some of the time but you can’t fool all the people all the time.

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