The Real Climate And Health Crisis

Anti-fossil-fuel climate policies increase energy prices, blackouts and death tolls

Paul Driessen

Climate policies promoted and imposed by Team Biden and Democrats are based on junk science, headline-grabbing scare stories, and computer models that create far-fetched “scenarios” asserting that fossil fuel use and emissions will cause Earth to warm by 4 degrees C (7 F)over the next 80 years, and cause Arctic warming that will bring colder winters.

Those dire predictions are used to justify more taxpayer-funded “research,” like a recent Columbia University “mortality cost of carbon” study that claims 83 million people (the population of Germany) “could be killed” this century by those rising planetary temperatures. Therefore we must take “immediate action” to “transform” our energy and economic systems, and replace oil, gas and coal with (millions of) wind turbines and (billions of) solar panels and backup batteries.

These policies are lethal for people and planet They would require mining on scales unprecedented in human history, much of it by slave and child laborers, and nearly all using fossil fuels – bringing massive habitat and wildlife losses, air and water pollution, and horrific human health and safety problems.

But since most of the mining, ore processing and manufacturing will occur in other countries, far from the USA, politicians and climateers can say this “alternative energy” is “clean and green.”

Worse, climate policies cause widespread “energy poverty” – energy prices rising above families’ ability to stay adequately warm (or cool) at reasonable cost, given their incomes. That means people die.  

Modern housing and energy systems enable people to adapt to and survive even extreme heat and cold – even in Antarctica, which recently had the coldest winter temperatures ever recorded: -61ᵒ C (-78ᵒ F). However, adaptation and survival become nigh impossible when government policies make it hard to heat or cool homes properly amid joblessness, inflation and soaring oil, natural gas, coal and electricity prices.

Indeed, it is often on the coldest and hottest days and nights, when heating or cooling are most essential, that winds blow at inadequate speeds to turn turbine blades and/or the sun shines with inadequate intensity on solar panels, to generate electricity. This (and wind and solar variability in general) results in recurrent blackouts and necessitates “backup” energy: coal, natural gas, diesel, hydroelectric or expensive battery systems, which significantly increase energy costs and worsen energy poverty, illness and death.  

Proposed Biden/Democrat Green New Deal policies would require that still perfectly good natural gas furnaces, water heaters, ovens and stoves be replaced with costly heat pumps and electric appliances, powered by expensive, unreliable, weather-dependent wind and solar systems. They would necessitate installing charging stations for electric cars, upgrading home and neighborhood electrical systems to 220 volts, and having pricey battery “power walls” for backup power during increasingly frequent blackouts.

All this would cost trillions of dollars, with families and small businesses bearing the brunt.

Contrary to faulty global warming “research,” far more people die in cold weather than in hot summers. In the United States and Canada, cold causes 45 times more deaths per year than heat: 113,000 from cold versus 2,500 from heat. Worldwide, with air conditioning far less available in already hot countries than in the United States, some 1,700,000 people die annually from cold versus 300,000 from heat.

A 2014 Public Health England University College of London Institute of Health Equity report underscores how energy poverty severely, disproportionately and inequitably affects poor, elderly, fixed-income and minority families – resulting in numerous, needless illnesses, health problems and deaths.

Cold homes cause or exacerbate risks of asthma, bronchitis, flu, cardiovascular disease and other adverse health conditions. Cold temperatures also increase depression, anxiety and other mental health problems, intensifying medical and physical issues. Young children, older people, those with preexisting health conditions and other vulnerable groups are especially susceptible to hypothermia, illness and death.

The Health Equity Institute calculated that one-tenth of all “excess winter deaths” in England and Wales are directly attributable to fuel poverty, and 21% of excess winter deaths are attributable to the coldest 25% of homes. Between 1990 and 2014, researchers estimated, 30,000 to 40,000 people died each year who would not have perished if their homes hadn’t been so cold. US studies reach similar conclusions.

Adjusting for population, but not for colder winter temperatures in much of the USA (versus England and Wales), this is equivalent to some 170,000 to 230,000 excess winter deaths per year in the United States.

In 2019, 344,000 German families had their electricity cut off because they couldn’t pay their power bills.

Still worse, coal, oil, natural gas, electricity and home heating costs have skyrocketed since those English, US and German reports were prepared – because of stupid, climate-obsessed, callous policies.

Global demand for gas and coal surged as the world recovered from Covid – but Britain and Europe banned fracking for gas in their enormous shale deposits, Germany is shutting down its nuclear plants, Russia is playing politics with gas deliveries, and UK and EU wind turbines generated far less electricity in 2021 (way below their supposed, “nameplate capacity”) due to unfavorable winds.

No wonder 65% of United Kingdom renters are struggling this year to pay their energy bills, 25% of Scots live in energy poverty, and 400,000 more UK households are on the brink of losing their gas and electricity provider before Christmas. Europe’s energy costs hit new records, and millions of UK households face 70% rise in energy bills. Excess winter death tolls will also likely set new records.

That’s happening in America too, as the Biden Administration stymies leasing, drilling, fracking and pipelines, sends gasoline prices rocketing upward, and launches the highest inflation rate in 39 years.

Climate policies will also exacerbate health risks in hospitals. At 13¢ per kilowatt-hour (average US business rate today) a 650,000-square-foot hospital building would pay about $2.5 million annually for electricity. At 27¢ per kWh (Britain’s earlier average), the annual cost jumps to $5.2 million; at 39¢ per kWh (Germany’s earlier average), to $7.5 million! Those soaring costs would bring chillier conditions, employee layoffs, higher medical bills, reduced patient care, and more deaths.

Consider too that one-third of American families already had difficulty six years ago adequately heating and cooling their homes, and one-fifth of U.S. households had to reduce or forego food, medicine and other necessities to pay their energy bills. Even before COVID, low-income, Black, Hispanic and Native American families were spending a greater portion of their incomes on energy than average households.

Impacts on hard-pressed working families and people on fixed incomes would be just as harmful and disproportionate, as they too spend a greater portion of their limited incomes on energy.

Job destruction, energy poverty, illness and deaths would increase dramatically under anti-fossil-fuel policies mandated and imposed by the Biden Administration and fellow Democrats – in the name of fairness, equity and “climate justice.”

Those policies would also make America’s energy, economy, national security and foreign policy increasingly dependent on China – already the world’s biggest coal user and greenhouse gas emitter – in an increasingly dangerous world. That’s because China controls most of the metals and minerals required by “green” energy and modern transportation, communication and defense technologies.

This is The Real Climate Crisis. The ecological destruction and human death tolls should shock all of us.

They aren’t due to climate changes that are mostly natural, weather events that are no more frequent or extreme than over the previous century, or manmade global warming that exists almost solely in computer models that rely on junk-science greenhouse-gas hypotheses. The real climate crisis is due to policies that are being rammed through on the basis of false premises, fear-mongering and intolerance for fossil fuels.

Congress, courts, states and voters must act now, to reverse the damage that climate and “green” energy policies are having on our economy, jobs, health, well-being, wildlife and environment.

Paul Driessen is senior policy analyst for the Committee For A Constructive Tomorrow ( and author of books and articles on energy, environment, climate and human rights issues.

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Andy Espersen
December 12, 2021 2:09 am

Japan has seen the light. Fresh from COP26 the government there, first of all countries, have stopped aiming for NetZero – simply because it is an impossibility. This, of course, is the best reason of all!

A statement from the Japanese Prime Minister’s office drily says, “ “No compromise is acceptable to ensure energy security, and it is the obligation of a nation to continue securing necessary resources.”

Reply to  Andy Espersen
December 12, 2021 3:25 am

In the UK we have almost forgotten about COP26, in this festive season in this country every ‘man’/could be woman too, you never know these days and his dog are preoccupied with omicron and the partying omni-shambles of Christmases past of our dear leader Worzel Gummidge.

Reply to  Vuk
December 12, 2021 3:47 am

BoJo looks like he is getting the Thatcher treatment, when the Tories decide he is a liability. More than one fake Corona christmas party revelation..
COP26 ended not with a bang but Sharma’s whimper – he could not deliver.
I wonder who they have in mind to replace BoJo?

Richard S Courtney
Reply to  bonbon
December 12, 2021 8:16 am


You have identified the problem.

I thought there could not be a more incompetent UK Prime Minister (PM) than Ted Heath. but one should never underestimate the Tories (i.e. the Conservative Party) in such matters. and they have recently proved me wrong three times in a row,

The most recent three PM’s (i.e. Cameron, May and Johnson) has each been more incompetent than Heath and more incompetent than his or her predecessor. Their incompetence has enabled the Tories to use such puppets are their useful tools.

The problem you have identified is that it is difficult to decide how any person could be a more incompetent PM than Johnson, and the Tories have discovered that finding such a person is proving to be difficult.


Reply to  Richard S Courtney
December 12, 2021 9:38 am

The problem may actually lie in the political approach/philosophy/policies of UK centre right parties…

Reply to  griff
December 12, 2021 2:19 pm

To the rest of the world, those would be the socialists.

Reply to  MarkW
December 12, 2021 5:14 pm

Canada imports its music and garbled culinary jargon from the US and its politics from the UK. Our national Conservative party turned left at Wokesville and carried on down the yellow brick road to Climategeddon. In spite of having some very clear headed people, the Party has concluded that the only way to be elected is to mouth the mantras of the cortically deprived. That hasn’t been working out for them but so far nobody has stumbled on the concept of matching their promises to their beliefs.

Vincent Causey
Reply to  griff
December 13, 2021 12:37 am

If they were a centre right party. More accurately I would describe them as a Marxist Leninist party, with a few centre right MPs who managed to slip through the net.

Reply to  griff
December 13, 2021 1:44 pm

Whilst you might have a point about the philosophy, I suggest that the problem lies [considerably, tho’ probably not exclusively] in the selection of Parliamentary candidates for the two main parties [Tory [Conservative] and Labour [Socialist]] in the UK; many candidates are very inexperienced – young and with little or no real life experience.
Realistically, no other party seems likely to get a significant number of candidates elected.
Often, the candidates are from a milieu far removed from everyday worries – paying the mortgage/rent/heating/food bills!
And the Government is selected from the Parliamentarians.
Advisors, union researchers, charity panjandra; very few who have had to work hard for a living – most from a tolerably prosperous middle-class upbringing.

And those elected, de facto, are from this rather narrow pool.
A few from the House of Lords.

Most – up to 91, IIRC, and including the Prime Minister – from the House of Commons, so, if they’re largely duffers, we’re in the squidgy brown stuff EMANATED FROM THE SOUTH END OF A NORTH-BOUND BOVID.

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Reply to  Richard S Courtney
December 12, 2021 4:31 pm

“The problem you have identified is that it is difficult to decide how any person could be a more incompetent PM than Johnson, and the Tories have discovered that finding such a person is proving to be difficult.”

Canada volunteers the services of Justin Trudeau.

Hi Richard my friend – best wishes – Allan

Reply to  Andy Espersen
December 12, 2021 9:38 am

Japan has still ended new coal plants…

Dave Fair
Reply to  griff
December 12, 2021 11:42 am

Japan has still started new coal plants… Your point, Griff?

Reply to  griff
December 12, 2021 12:11 pm

Japan is building many more new coal plants. Griff either saw headlines or was instructed to spread lies based on a suggestion from some loons that was labeled a Plan to phase out coal which was something they hoped the government would adopt. Despite being informed of the falsehood, Griff has continued to repeat the lie.

Reply to  griff
December 12, 2021 2:19 pm

And griff has found yet another lie to spread.

December 12, 2021 2:24 am

It’s the same in the UK. There is a massive rise in fuel poverty due to the closure of cheap power stations and the increase in expensive renewable energy. There is a massive rise in food poverty. Food banks are springing up all over the place. Good farmland is being covered with solar panels or used to grow maize to feed anaerobic digesters or being planted with trees to absorb “carbon”.

Peta of Newark
Reply to  Phillip Bratby
December 12, 2021 3:01 am

Two fields of maize were grown next door to me this year.
One of them was part of a rotation that a large farming enterprise operates on fields that it rents from the actual owner. The crop was/is destined for a nearby digester

The other maize field was grown by the local peasant for his beef cows & calves to eat through winter
Obviously by now both fields have been harvested, by the same machine and stashed into huuuuuge white plastic sausages.

The beef farmer’s field is ‘a shade of green’. It has bits of weeds growing, volunteer barley, vetches, annual meadow grass, oilseed plants, stuff that fell out birds and grew etc

The other field is straight out of The Somme. It is black muddy barren desert, except for around the margins/edges.
The cut-off line is razor sharp between mud and field margin grasses & weeds

IOW: The ‘digester field’ has been sprayed with Roundup and anybody In Their Right Mind has got to wonder why. Why should a few weeds bother the digester?

The ‘Health Crisis’ here arises that other crops in the ‘digester’ rotation include spring barley, oilseed and potatoes and it is blindingly obvious that they too are ‘Rounded Up’ prior to harvest

Once you learn how Roundup works, that Monsanto lied about it ‘breaking down in the soil’ – you will never again eat any food cooked or doused in ‘vegetable’ oil, you will not eat French Fries (or jacket potatoes)from restaurants pubs and takeaways and, doubtful, it will put you off your beer too.

Maybe you ‘Can’t Fix Stupid‘ but it is very very very easy to create……
Covid and diabetes fix it – permanently.

Also, recall how Alzheimer’s is quantifiable in folks who are ‘merely’ pre-diabetic?
what about this…..

Climate Change is not the problem – it is a symptom

Reply to  Peta of Newark
December 12, 2021 3:30 am

Then control Roundup and not CO2.
Roundup doesn’t affect climate.

Reply to  Stephen Wilde
December 12, 2021 4:09 am

Neither does CO2.

Reply to  Peta of Newark
December 12, 2021 3:49 am

When farmland is used for non-food harvests the usual pesticide laws do not apply.
Problem is that land can never later be used for food. Customer lock-in!

Alan M
Reply to  Peta of Newark
December 12, 2021 4:41 am

I think you have lost the plot, please explain the link between roundup (glyphosate) and diabetes

Reply to  Alan M
December 12, 2021 2:20 pm

Don’t you know that such links don’t need to be proven.
Just the charge is sufficient for the true believers.

December 12, 2021 2:26 am

The potential for environmental damage from wind and solar energy is way ahead of anything caused by fossil fuels if CO2 is not a serious problem.
The evidence is that CO2 is net beneficial for the environment by increasing vegetation.
The evidence for a harmful climate effect is fast disappearing despite the media hype we hear over every severe weather event.
I have been astonished at the extent to which professional scientists continue to be completely dishonest in misrepresenting facts and data whilst accusing anyone else who points that out of disseminating misinformation.
Projection in its purest form.

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Alasdair Fairbairn
December 12, 2021 2:34 am

Yes indeed:- That is the REAL CRISIS.
The REAL science tells us there NO crisis where the global climate is concerned.

Reply to  Alasdair Fairbairn
December 12, 2021 8:52 am

Were Kansas tornadoes caused by windmills? Before windmills there have never been such deadly tornadoes.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Curious George
December 12, 2021 11:29 am

Actually, Kansas has had windmills for a long time! Almost every farm had one, to pump water. They were small, but abundant.

Reply to  Clyde Spencer
December 12, 2021 12:15 pm

It has also had deadly tornadoes for at least as long as there have been windmills. Luckily for the people of Kansas, tornado activity has gone down over the last several decades.

December 12, 2021 2:53 am

It’s a feature, not a glitch. Greentards hate life.

December 12, 2021 3:08 am

A green paradox: Deforesting the Amazon for wind energy in the Global North
A shift to wind energy is leaving a trail of destruction in Ecuador, with a brutal impact on Indigenous communities and fragile ecosystems

Ireneusz Palmowski
December 12, 2021 3:12 am

In four days, a cold front will fall from the north over the western US. As it turns out, fronts falling from the north at high strength cause violent weather on the plains because they do not mix with the surrounding air, causing violent convection on the plains.comment image

Ron Long
Reply to  Ireneusz Palmowski
December 12, 2021 6:09 am

These cold fronts migrate ESE across the USA, and, if they collide with a warm front rising from the south, the collision tends to produce aggressive storms, to include tornados. The key factors for strong tornados appears to be the speed of the collision and the temperature difference between the colliding fronts. This just happened terrible episode, labelled by Brandon (reading from a teleprompter) as a consequence of global warming, actually was due to the colder than normal front, not the warm front of normal temperature. Global warming? Global cooling? Weather?

Reply to  Ron Long
December 12, 2021 6:53 am

On the FakeBook thread, griff has already declared that December tornadoes are proof of global warming.
Forget the fact that tornadoes in December are not in the least bit unusual.

Climate believer
Reply to  MarkW
December 12, 2021 8:40 am

Everything is proof of global warming for that bonehead.

Here’s some more proof…

In Russia, Delyankir, -59,5 °C, St Petersburg -21°C.

In Sweden (Greta listen up) Naimakka, recorded -43.80C that broke a record set in 1962 (-41.8°C) for December.

In Estonia,Tartu-Tõravere recorded -27.6°C that broke a record set in 1973 (-26°C)

In the Yukon it’s down to -47.4°C, Saskatchewan it’s much more globally warmed, only -44.6°C.

Where are the worldwide headlines?….

<<<<<<t u m b l e w e e d>>>>>>

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Climate believer
December 12, 2021 11:37 am

But, it is only weather, not climate! /sarc

Reply to  Clyde Spencer
December 12, 2021 6:39 pm

Of course, since the definition of climate is the 30 year average of the weather.

These people can’t even read their own playbook.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Ireneusz Palmowski
December 12, 2021 11:36 am

It seems that you routinely manage to display full-width images. How do you manage that? When I add images they are usually about postage stamp size.

December 12, 2021 3:58 am

Thus far at least 25 energy companies have gone bust in the UK

All this against a backdrop of refusal to frack for the plentiful gas we have and the farce of the Cambo oilfield, located near the Shetland islands.

“When it comes to making bizarre, spontaneous statements, Scotland’s First Minister, Nicola Sturgeon, is, without doubt, an accomplished player. But perhaps this time she’s really shot herself in both feet. She does not think the Cambo oil field should be given the green light as she revealed the COP26 summit has left her with a “renewed sense of responsibility to go further and faster” in tackling climate change.”

She has put thousands of oil and gas jobs at risk in the UK after Shell pulled out of the Cambo oil field development.

Her dreams of Scottish independence are dead in the water without income from oil and gas, but she might find she’s given another bunch of independence seekers a jolt.

“Shetlanders push for independence from Scotland
Islands’ council votes in favour of ‘exploring options’ for achieving ‘financial and political self-determination’

“We are concerned that this ongoing situation is seriously threatening the prosperity and even basic sustainability of Shetland as a community.”

We could be relatively energy independent. But I suspect they’ve read Ehrlich and Holdren: Giving society cheap, abundant energy would be the equivalent of giving an idiot child a machine gun.” 

Bruce Cobb
December 12, 2021 5:09 am

In another Through the Looking Glass moment, here in New England we are being warned of the possibility this winter of system wide blackouts due to an unstable electric grid. This is the direct result of the anti-fossil fuel and anti-carbon insanity, including enviro-fascists shutting down a much-needed NG pipeline through Massachusetts. The rabid greentards see NG as both a stepping stone and a necessary evil to their ultimate goal of Renewables Nirvanna. But the use of NG isn’t static, greatly increasing in the winter when it also gets used for heating, which can lead to shortages and prices spiking. It is madness.
Adding to the instability of course, are the countless installations of both solar and wind, both small-scale and large, which are hugely subsidized by ratepayers and taxpayers. It is a perfect storm waiting to happen which will ultimately leave people literally in the cold and dark.

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December 12, 2021 5:45 am

The German Greens are more than unhappy with the existing European Eco laws they helped to indroduce and to fix.
They will raid them better earlier than later to have less problems to install more wind generators.

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Dave Fair
Reply to  Krishna Gans
December 12, 2021 11:55 am

Shackles for thee but not for me.

David Elstrom
December 12, 2021 6:10 am

Congress, courts, and many states are part of the problem—sucking up to green zealots for fear of being vilified by them and their propaganda media. Only voters can fix Democrat Marxist depredations by expunging Democrat power. The question is whether that is even possible anymore, given the state of corruption and destruction already created by these ideologues.

Bill Everett
Reply to  David Elstrom
December 12, 2021 7:05 am

Yes. Unfortunately, this excellent paper and comments will never be seen by the great majority of members of Congress who will continue to be woefully ignorant about the issues discussed here.

Reply to  Bill Everett
December 12, 2021 12:48 pm

At least the next Governor of Virginia [a USA state where this Republican party member defeated an incumbent from the Democrat political party] is declaring a complete stop of Virginia from further participation in the “market-based cap-and-invest” scheme established by the multi-state Regional Greenhouse Gasses Initiative (“RGGI”). The RGGI’s mission includes financial levies on operations exceeding it’s position on “gasses”; which means of course predictable risk that in signatory states there can be downstream higher costs to consumers – except no longer for Virginians.

Reply to  David Elstrom
December 12, 2021 9:06 am

U.S.A. House of Representative Democrats (Biden’s political party) are proposing new supplementary rates on methane emissions related to the oil and gas industry, rising to $1,500/ton in 2025. Filtering down to consumers who use natural gas for heating that will be an additional cost of 17% on top of whatever the seasonal natural gas price is.

December 12, 2021 6:22 am

Anti-fossil-fuel climate policies increase energy prices, blackouts and death tolls”, which is precisely what leftards want. They are features of the system, not bugs.

Joseph Zorzin
December 12, 2021 6:25 am

Off topic, sorry, but this story is so absurd I wanted to pass it along- in the Boston Globe.

“Why climate change is forcing albatross couples to divorce”

Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
December 12, 2021 7:05 am

You’re not wrong to post the link, but a bit late to the discussion. This was identified/ridiculed a couple of weeks ago.

Bruce Cobb
December 12, 2021 7:13 am

How do you spell irony? When the extended brutal cold snap, and/or series of ice or snow storms occur, triggering those blackouts, what do you suppose will be blamed? Spoiler alert, it will be “climate change”. But the reality is that it will in fact be the “climate change” inspired, idiotic energy policies.

Nick Schroeder
December 12, 2021 7:48 am

There is more money and power from the problem than from the solution.

Posters & calendars.

Despair, Inc. – Demotivators®, The World’s Best Demotivational Posters

Dave Fair
Reply to  Nick Schroeder
December 12, 2021 12:24 pm

Management was always putting up motivational posters and sayings. We (mentally) modified them as appropriate.

Just before I took over as CEO/GM of an electric utility, a contractor had run a joint upper management/board of directors vision, goals and objectives exercise. The results were typewritten on numerous flip-chart sheets of paper and taped around the walls of the meeting/board room. Everything under the sun was typed on those large sheets.

At my first management meeting, I walked around and tore all of those sheets off the walls, wadded them up and threw them on the floor. My subordinate managers were aghast! They said the Board had approved those detailed vision, goals and objectives.

I said, “Yeah, but I don’t care. There are only three principles you need to guide your actions in the company: 1) Make money; 2) act responsibly; and 3) have fun.” Those managers that couldn’t figure out how to accomplish all the three requirements didn’t make it. Oh, BTW, during my tenure we were able to lower customers’ power rates by 20% and add needed internet and electrical maintenance services to the region.

Reply to  Dave Fair
December 12, 2021 6:47 pm

Congrats on turning it around. It takes a lot of nerve to go against the status quo sometimes. But when it’s necessary and done right, as you have, it makes everybody but the busy bodies happy.

Gregory Woods
December 12, 2021 7:55 am

A good synopsis of the situation, Paul. i am sending it around….

Nick Schroeder
December 12, 2021 8:01 am

There’s more where these came from.

Reply to  Nick Schroeder
December 12, 2021 8:52 am


Moderately Cross of East Anglia
Reply to  gringojay
December 13, 2021 1:27 am

Should read “Understanding Climate Science”

Joe Gordon
December 12, 2021 8:58 am

This is all intentional. With energy prices increasing, the greens make the case that personal wealth kills and everyone is entitled to a battery-powered home. Therefore, complete government control over banks and finance. Hyper-inflation is a wonderful tool to get from point A to point B. It was never about the environment – the kids who think it is are just useful idiots.

Robert Hanson
Reply to  Joe Gordon
December 12, 2021 11:41 am

complete government control over banks and finance”

Yep, Brandon’s nominee for comptroller of the currency, Saule Omarova, educated in Russia on a Lenin scholarship, had said she wanted to replace private bank accounts with government ones. Her nomination was recently withdrawn when a number of “moderate” Dems refused to vote for her.

December 12, 2021 9:37 am

Hysterical (in all senses of the word), alarmist nonsense.

If we were an entirely fossil fuel world, there would still be pretty much the same amount of mining – plus more atmospheric pollution. Not all mining for rare earths is done by slaves or child labour: and every Watts reader is using some device which contains those minerals , so why aren’t you protesting about that?

and the energy costs which are increasing are due to natural gas prices rising for reasons which have nothing to do with renewable energy.

Robert Hanson
Reply to  griff
December 12, 2021 11:48 am

“Not all mining for rare earths is done by slaves or child labour”

To say “not all”, is to admit that much of it is done that way, and doesn’t address the fact that the more EVs and unreliables that are built, the more slave labor, including by young children, will occur. Which Griff apparently can’t be concerned about….

Just when you think posts from griff can’t get any worse, he comes up with this. 🙁

Reply to  griff
December 12, 2021 12:23 pm

Griff, you were so close to being correct. Your post just needed a colon, or even a dash, after the word ‘nonsense’ to show that you were talking about all that followed.

Climate believer
Reply to  griff
December 12, 2021 12:45 pm

“and the energy costs which are increasing are due to natural gas prices rising for reasons which have nothing to do with renewable energy.”

Nothing?…. nothing at all?….. zip, nada…. okay….

Reply to  Climate believer
December 12, 2021 2:29 pm

Like the rest of griff’s lies, he’s been corrected on this point many times.
griff has decided that telling lies pays better.

Reply to  griff
December 12, 2021 2:28 pm

griff’s only skill is his ability to repeat any lie for as long as he is told to repeat it.

Yes, there is a lot of mining for the rest of the economy. However the increases in mining for for electric cars and windmills is still huge.
And griff seems to take it as a badge of pride that not all of this new mining is being done by slaves and children.

Energy costs are going up because renewables are unreliable. Whenever they are built, you have to pay to maintain an equal amount for real power so that it’s available for the inevitable occasions when renewables aren’t. That costs money, lots of money.
Natural gas prices are also rising because you and your fellow idiots have done everything in your power to make it impossible to drill for new oil and natural gas, even though demand is still going up. While it may not be directly caused by renewable power, it is caused by the same people who actually think unreliable power is a good thing.

Dave Andrews
Reply to  griff
December 13, 2021 6:43 am


A typical electric car requires SIX times the mineral inputs of a conventional car, and an onshore wind plant requires NINE times more mineral resources than a gas fired plant.

“Since 2010 the average amount of minerals needed for a new unit of power generation capacity has increased by 50 % as the share of renewables has risen”

All information and quote from the International Energy Agency report on ‘The Role of Critical Minerals in Clean Energy Transitions’ May 2021.

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Ed Fox
December 12, 2021 10:54 am

Carbon emissions would need to go up not down to build all the solar panels, windmills and batteries.

It would take many, many decades for emissions to be reduced to where they would have been had we not tried to “fix” the problem.

Reply to  Ed Fox
December 12, 2021 2:31 pm

Long before they would be able to finish building enough wind and solar to actually power the world, the first panels and windmills will reach the end of their useful life and have to be replaced. As a result most, if not all of the new output will be used up replacing units that are retiring, with little, if anything left for new capacity.

December 12, 2021 11:04 am

It’s unfortunate that this article is so explicitly partisan. It makes the article unusable for those of us who serve in non-partisan political offices who are trying to persuade our colleagues who are in the middle or who lean to the left, because they will not be able to get past the partisan attacks to digest the valuable technical and policy information and understand the negative impacts on people they care about. It’s really a shame, because it would have involved only very minor changes to make it a useful tool for such persuasion. I wish authors of such articles would think harder about how their work might be used, and focus on changing the minds of the persuadable rather than on throwing red meat to those who are already on their side and need no persuading.

Reply to  Toby Nixon
December 12, 2021 12:21 pm

Well, now that you mention it, actually I have been thinking of running for politics …

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  Toby Nixon
December 12, 2021 12:41 pm

It sounds like you are in denial of the fact that energy policy has indeed become a partisan issue, like it or not. And the Democrats almost all fall on the wrong side, i.e. the side which wants to get rid of fossil fuels. There are of course exceptions on both sides.

Reply to  Toby Nixon
December 12, 2021 2:32 pm

The assault on freedom behind this movement is almost 100% partisan.

Rick C
December 12, 2021 3:14 pm

,,,Columbia University “mortality cost of carbon” study that claims 83 million people (the population of Germany) “could be killed” this century by those rising planetary temperatures.”

Just for comparison, about 7 billion people will die this century from something. Pretty much everyone over 30 and lots of people younger than that. An almost negligible fraction of those deaths will be in anyway related to climate although some will certainly be due to weather events. Of course the post correctly points out that lack of adequate affordable energy will certainly increase the number of weather related health issues and deaths. The more successful the alarmists are in dismantling currently highly reliable energy production and distribution systems the greater the loss of future lives.

Imagine how many future lives could be saved by expanding access to reliable low cost fossil fuel and nuclear energy to the 2-3 Billion people who do not currently have it.

December 12, 2021 6:28 pm

How offtrack can these people get?? Why can they not understand that stopping oil with winter in the process of peaking will cause GREAT hardship for the general population. And, they can do precious little about it individuality.

It’s starting to look like a political ‘overturning’ is beginning. More than not, people are starting to react to the fairy tale stories about weather and the climate.

December 13, 2021 4:44 am

Getting a bit too obvious with struggletown’s power bills is it lefties?
California to propose reforms to major rooftop solar policy (

Longer term rooftop solar owners in Oz are bitching as their solar FITs collapse with all the new chums jumping onboard and upsetting the grid-
Solar curtailment is emerging as a new challenge to overcome as Australia dashes for rooftop solar (

Backyard Powerwalls don’t cut it but what does is Big Battery making a killing with a two hour battery that can arbitrage the solar duck curve and feed back at peak evening demand-
Elon Musk’s Tesla to back central Queensland battery project in Australian-first collaboration (

Basically these short run batteries cream off the top of the mounting problem you get with serious penetration of unreliables into the grid and it all feeds into the power bills as hidden costs. All the while the watermelons ooh and ahh at periods of high renewables output exclaiming how cheap solar and wind are and coal can’t compete. Welcome to State sponsored dumping and their pea and thimble trick.

Reply to  observa
December 13, 2021 5:09 am

PS: This is typical of their spaghetti and meatballs approach trashing the large hub and spoke transmission network-
Renewable energy hotspot grinds to a halt through lack of transmission infrastructure – ABC News
Hey howsabout you consumers building us an expensive transmission setup so we can dump on the grid and earn a decent quid?

December 13, 2021 7:44 am

But since most of the mining, ore processing and manufacturing will occur in other countries,…
I wonder if there is also a mindset that all of the ‘dirty’ fossil fuel stuff is already being harvested in such a fashion? If it’s already going on (I know it isn’t, and you know it isn’t, but…) in that way, then it isn’t a harm or foul to continue it until we can get all those glorious turbines and solar panels built. And after they’re built, then we won’t need them anymore, at all, so it’s a big win.

Of course, that’s based on a fantasy, but lots of religious beliefs are.

December 15, 2021 2:13 am

“21% of excess winter deaths are attributable to the coldest 25% of homes”. Curious that the coldest houses have a lower death rate than the rest. And how do they rate the coldness of houses anyway.

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