The Vilification Of Oil Producers Continues Apace At COP26

Tilak Doshi

Tilak Doshi

Reposted from Forbes

As the COP26 climate summit in Glasgow wraps up, the oil and gas industries are once again the villains of the piece (coal of course is already beyond the pale). On the eve of the summit, Royal Dutch Shell’s CEO stated that the company would be absent from the climate talks after being told it would not be welcome. Teenage climate icon Greta Thunberg, whose tirades have repeatedly gone viral on social media over the past two weeks, tweeted “I don’t know about you, but I sure am not comfortable with having some of the world’s biggest villains influencing & dictating the fate of the world.”

Villains Of The Piece

Just prior to the start of the Glasgow summit, the US House Oversight Committee chair Carolyn Maloney accused ExxonMobil XOM in the US of “lying” about climate change since the 1970s “like the tobacco executives were (about smoking and the link to cancer)”. This is par for the course for Biden’s Democratic administration which has demonized the US oil and gas sector since achieving office. In the eyes of the administration, the oil giant had for years raised doubts about climate change, as in 1997 when its then-CEO Lee Raymond said the “case for global warming is far from airtight” and that scientific evidence was “inconclusive.” Perhaps Ms. Maloney in her indignation is unaware that even the highly qualified climate scientist Steven Koonin, undersecretary for science at the U.S. Department of Energy in the Obama administration, finds that climate science is far from “settled” in his masterly survey of the literature.

The Western oil majors have long been accustomed to being accused of being the new tobacco  lobby, selling poison and destroying lives, with many of them adopting the role of supplicants begging for time to “transition” out of the hated fossil fuels into the sunny vales of “renewable” energy. But for non-Western state-owned oil producers, over which activist shareholders and virtue-signalling Western governments have little influence, the special ire expressed by various commentators is remarkable. Among the group of oil producers, Saudi Aramco, the world’s largest oil company, serves as a lightning rod.

Reliably vociferous Greenpeace expressed “grave concern” at “moves by the Saudi government to cripple the COP26 climate talks in Glasgow”. The NGO accused the Saudi government of being “smart, strategic and utterly cynical”, pushing back on including the 1.50 C goal — an arbitrary limit that seems to have taken on a life of its own — at the talks. Indeed, as an arsonist at the talks, the Saudis “light matches, drop them, start fires and walk away”, Greenpeace said

The Saudis As The Lightning Rod

But beyond the hyperbole and agitprop expected from the likes of such NGOs, even seasoned observers of oil markets seem to have taken to media-lynching the Saudis. A recent Bloomberg column accused Saudi energy minister Prince Abdulaziz Bin Salman of “delivering a masterclass in gaslighting” when he argued that the roots of the current energy crisis can be found in the decades of anti-oil policies adopted by the developed countries. “Gas-lighting”, to remind ourselves, refers to psychological manipulation over an extended period of time that causes victims to question the validity of their own perception, leading to confusion and a dependency on the perpetrator. That is a serious charge indeed.

The article goes on to accuse Saudi Aramco, the state-owned oil company, of ignoring the world’s biggest consumers’ requests to increase oil supply. It continues, “despite what Prince Abdulaziz would have you believe, OPEC+ exists to look after the interests of its members, nobody else.” You would have thought that sovereign governments and their national oil companies are tasked with representing the interests of their citizens. The sheer chutzpah of the argument that oil producers should decide on their supply and pricing decisions on the basis of their customers’ views rather than on the laws of demand and supply is astonishing.

Or perhaps it reflects the ignorance of basic economics. As Adam Smith, a founding sage of the discipline, famously observed, “It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own self-interest. We address ourselves not to their humanity but to their self-love, and never talk to them of our own necessities, but of their advantages.” One might ask what were customers’ views when oil prices collapsed in mid-2014 and led to massive fiscal imbalances and the economic impoverishment of oil producers?

Economic Incompetence or Political Calculation?

In a recent TV interview, Harold Hamm – the famous US oil and gas entrepreneur and lead player in the “fracking revolution” that catapulted the country to its position as the world’s leading oil and gas producer – was asked about the Western onslaught on the industry apparent at COP26. The TV host asked him, “do you feel like Custer” (referring to American cavalry commander who led his men and himself to death at the Battle of Little Bighorn in 1876)? His response: “this (Biden) administration does not understand Economics 101…and has it all backwards”. But perhaps it isn’t so much an ignorance of economics as much as the political awareness of the perceived benefits of hewing to the environmental left, the Democratic party’s activist base.  

Mr. Hamm was referring to the Biden’s executive actions since attaining office, ranging from the revoked permit for the Keystone XL pipeline, suspended oil leasing in Alaska to the halting of permits to drill in oil and gas leases on federal lands. To that list, we could add the latest items. Joe Biden’s recent nominee Saule Omarova for the Comptroller of the Currency, a key financial regulator position, said this of coal, oil and gas industries: “We want them to go bankrupt if we want to tackle climate change.” And if shutting down the Keystone XL pipeline was not enough, the White House admitted early this week that it is studying the impact of shutting down the L5 pipeline which carries oil and gas liquids from Canada through Wisconsin and Michigan. 

In another TV interview on November 6th, US Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm threw her head back and laughed when asked if there was a plan to bring down gasoline prices – now at 7-year highs, having increased by 60% in the past year. She apparently found the question hilarious and reverted to the standard response of her administration: “would that I had the magic wand on this…Oil is a global market. It is controlled by a cartel. That cartel is called OPEC, and they made a decision yesterday that they were not going to increase beyond what they were already planning.” There was no recognition of the sheer absurdity of castigating the OPEC+ oil producers’ refusal to ramp up oil exports beyond scheduled monthly increases while the Biden administration is doing its best to curtail domestic oil and gas production.

As countries emerge from the covid lockdowns, oil demand is surging. According to BP, global oil demand has now bounced back above 100 million barrels a day, a level that marked the peak seen before the pandemic. October gasoline sales in India reached an all-time high —  8.3% higher than in October 2019 — as covid cases diminish, the economy recovers and mobility increases. While the country “promises” net zero carbon emissions 50 years hence to COP26 host Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s evident delight, it is also busy planning the start of multiple new refinery construction projects driven by economic growth and concomitant oil demand.

While the Saudi government has announced large investments in renewable energy to the approbation of the climate crusaders, the state oil company Aramco forecasts continued global oil demand growth for the foreseeable future and will boost its oil production capacity to 13 million barrels per day (bpd) by 2027 from 12 million bpd now. Other producers that plan significant production capacity increases include the UAE, Iraq, Guyana and Brazil. As the developing countries undergo economic recovery from the covid pandemic, veteran oil analyst David Blackmon states baldly, “forget about peak oil (demand), we haven’t even reached peak coal (demand) yet”.

Forget About Peak Oil – We Haven’t Even Reached Peak Coal YetDavid BlackmonDespite all the heavy dissemination of narratives and talking points about a climate emergency and the energy tr…

While the vilification of the oil industry continues apace in the West, promises by the developing countries — accounting for 80% of the world’s population — to constrain carbon emissions at annual climate summits do not override their legitimate aspirations for better standards of living which depend on reliable fossil fuel supplies. As willing buyers, oil-short developing countries will continue to have durable and mutually-beneficial partnerships with oil producers. Apologetic Western oil companies and insouciant protestations by President Biden’s officials play little or no role in this equation.

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Coeur de Lion
November 14, 2021 6:13 am

On UK’s BBC Radio4 just heard the appalling Lord Gummer castigating India for their attitude to coal which wrecked the futile COP26. Let’s organize him a week in an Indian village without electricity and send him out early for water and to hack down the habitat for firewood. Only 300million with barely enough to eat,

fretslider
Reply to  Coeur de Lion
November 14, 2021 6:26 am

Gummer’s lot are the real responsible parties for Grenfell.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  fretslider
November 14, 2021 9:31 am

Shouldn’t the spambot “Rio” have been banished by now?

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
November 14, 2021 11:09 am

Totally. Someone is falling down on the job. Even a simple text filter of the first 6 words, or the URL, would get rid of it. Until another comes along.

Charles Rotter(@jeeztheadmin)
Admin
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
November 14, 2021 8:51 pm

The URL had been in the banned list for days. This is a weird bot.

Ebor
Reply to  Coeur de Lion
November 14, 2021 6:40 am

A week? I say give him at least a year until he can really see his ribs poking out and experience all the other jolly side effects of poor nutrition and hard labor that come with a subsistence “lifestyle”.

AntonyIndia
Reply to  Coeur de Lion
November 14, 2021 7:27 am

Notice how some MSM like the Guardian are mentioning only India as the retainers of some coal, while others like the NYT and the Independent name India and China. Who is reporting the truth here? Why are some lying?

LdB
Reply to  AntonyIndia
November 14, 2021 7:33 am

One pays better than the other.

decnine
Reply to  AntonyIndia
November 14, 2021 7:50 am

Which ones are not lying?

Rich Davis
Reply to  Coeur de Lion
November 14, 2021 11:09 am

Let them eat mad cow

Matthew Sykes
Reply to  Coeur de Lion
November 15, 2021 12:06 am

How much did Gummer make from renewables? 600 million wasnt it? He is on the board of some firm that sells them.

john
Reply to  john
November 14, 2021 6:25 am

Remember this: playing both sides of the financial crisis in 08:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/03/25/business/blackrock-federal-reserve.amp.html

john
Reply to  john
November 14, 2021 6:29 am

In detail here about 25 or so min in:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VYOEvurCVuk

John Garrett
Reply to  john
November 14, 2021 6:54 am

BlackRock and its founder/CEO Larry Fink are completely dishonest. Fink has spent a career as a professional liar.

Q: How can you tell when Larry Fink is lying?
A: When his lips move.

john
Reply to  John Garrett
November 14, 2021 9:24 am

The green swan
Central banking and financial stability in the age of climate change.
https://www.bis.org/publ/othp31.pdf

Last edited 2 months ago by john
Mr.
Reply to  John Garrett
November 14, 2021 9:35 am

The Finks of the world are highly adept at scouting out gravy trains and then riding them as far as they go.

Master craftsmen in their chosen field will do “whatever it takes”.

john
Reply to  Mr.
November 14, 2021 10:22 am

With the blessings of traitorous leaders giving their own countries sovereignty away.

Lurker Pete
Reply to  john
November 15, 2021 3:36 am

Great business plan, convince the Fed into “going direct” use that transfer of wealth (in the $Trillions) to buy up all the assets while subsiquent inflation it causes leaves you sitting pretty, eveyone else gets to “Own Nothing, and be Happy”.

Trebbles all round, for life.

November 14, 2021 6:22 am

re: “The Vilification Of Oil Producers …”
THINK that’s bad? Mention Randell Mills and Brilliant Light Power in the same breath to Ristvan and then stand back …

BTW, Rudd, Mills has boilers operating in the 250 kW range and is planning field trials with product now … where is ‘hot’ fusion at progress-wise? Yeah …

Scissor
Reply to  _Jim
November 14, 2021 7:09 am

Good luck to Mills’ investors, which include U.S. taxpayers.

Mills jumped on the cold fusion band-wagon in the late 1980’s, and like Andrea Rossi, has peddled a similar story involving prototypes, demonstrations and field trials that will lead to commercial products (and riches) in just a few months.

The longevity and sustainability of these schemes and their claims is what I find most amazing.

LdB
Reply to  _Jim
November 14, 2021 7:38 am

Wake us up when they have something beyond a “field trial”. As scissor said we have heard this all before and the reason they just need a couple more million in investment for it all to go commercial.

Last edited 2 months ago by LdB
Richard Page
Reply to  _Jim
November 15, 2021 4:36 am

Slightly off-topic, or not, I noticed last week that Jeff Carpoff has been sentenced to 30 years and his wife is due to be sentenced soon, both for running DC Solar, a renewables ponzi scheme. Wonder how many more will be under investigation? As to Randell Mills, after years of stating he has a working machine, he still hasn’t been able to come up with anything that works. The Mills BLP should be treated in the same way as was Mills’ 1988 cure for cancer – as complete and utter nonsense.

Tom Halla
November 14, 2021 6:23 am

This is rather worse than th oil shocks under Nixon or Carter. While simple economic incompetence explains their aggravating political interventions by instituting price controls, the fanatics in various western governments seem to want a price spike. As the cliche goes, it is not a bug, it is a feature.

fretslider
November 14, 2021 6:25 am

As the COP26 climate summit in Glasgow wraps up...

Just how pathetic our (UK at least) media and political elites really are was on show.

From the, er, Tory hating right-on Grauniad

“‘I am deeply sorry’: Alok Sharma fights back tears as watered-down Cop26 deal agreed”

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/video/2021/nov/14/i-am-deeply-sorry-alok-sharma-fights-back-tears-as-watered-down-cop26-deal-agreed-video

These total b’stards will never ask the public what they think about any aspect of the green agenda, let alone Net Zero.

Strangely, I feel thankful for the stance of the CCP on this and that can’t be right, can it?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  fretslider
November 14, 2021 1:00 pm

“‘I am deeply sorry’: Alok Sharma fights back tears as watered-down Cop26 deal agreed”

I guess that was the guy I saw blubbering on the television news this morning. Crying over coal. What a pathetic sight!

Dave Fair
Reply to  fretslider
November 14, 2021 1:24 pm

It will be funny when Biden asks the post-2022 Congress for tens of billions of dollars to fund the UN Climate Fund. Actually, he will get nothing from the current Congress. Maybe he will try to direct funds from the “infrastructure” bill which was recently passed. There is enough loose change there to fund a mid-sized country.

paul courtney
Reply to  Dave Fair
November 15, 2021 8:34 am

Mr. Fair: Agreed, in fact there is enough loose change to bankrupt a mid-sized country after it’s all spent.

November 14, 2021 6:27 am

Too bad we can’t cancel the ability of the anti-fossil fuel folks to buy and use fossil fuels, and the products made from oil, gas and coal. They really don’t seem to have any understanding of the roles fossil fuels play in our lives.

Climate believer
Reply to  Robert Cherba
November 14, 2021 6:37 am

A world without oil would kill billions…….oh, hang on a minute.

B. Hammer
Reply to  Climate believer
November 14, 2021 10:19 am

I think that is the ultimate goal.

MAL
Reply to  B. Hammer
November 14, 2021 11:06 am

I think Climate Believer does two.

tom0mason(@tom0mason)
November 14, 2021 6:30 am

“Big oil!” they screech …
“It must be someone’s fault.” they bray.

Maybe we need to define the problem better, using real, verified empirical evidence.

Richard Page
Reply to  tom0mason
November 14, 2021 2:26 pm

If they want to behave like children, then let’s treat them like children; take away their voting rights and send them back to school to learn how to be an adult. Actions have consequences which you must deal with as an adult – if you cannot foresee the obvious consequences and/or persist in blaming others for your actions, then you have no place in an adult world.

Alba
November 14, 2021 6:40 am

Official COP26 wind farm showcases obscene renewables costshttps://www.netzerowatch.com/cop26-windfarm-highlights-foolish-energy-policies/
The Griffin wind farm in Perthshire is the official electricity supplier to the COP26 climate conference in Glasgow, though of course the conference buildings actually rely on the grid mix of electricity generation, including nuclear, gas, and even coal to guarantee security of supply.

Even more embarrassingly, it now transpires that the Griffin wind farm has been receiving large payments to reduce generation due to low local demand and weak grid connection between the wind farm and the majority of the grid’s consumers.

The Scottish edition of the Daily Express has revealedthat the wind farm has received about £500,000 during the conference to reduce generation.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Alba
November 14, 2021 12:04 pm

I tell you what. I’ll promise not to produce any electricity if someone gives me half a million quid. Deal?

glenn holdcroft
Reply to  Alba
November 14, 2021 8:56 pm

Don’t tell anyone or it will make international headlines , LoL .

bonbon
November 14, 2021 6:43 am

Listen to UN Climate Finance advisor, ex Bank of England chief, Marc Carney, ‘splain it all :

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2021-11-01/net-zero-a-ruthless-relentless-focus-for-gfanz-carney-video

Carney along with Bloomberg et al formed the GFANZ last year. It is all about a $150 trillion green bubble to save the system, not the planet.

Ron Long
November 14, 2021 6:53 am

The CAGW crowd is helping crude producers sell their product at a higher price. Somehow the basic Economics 101 relationship of Supply-Demand-Price is beyond these people.

MarkW
November 14, 2021 6:59 am

Liberals and progressives just aren’t able to accept the fact that their policies aren’t popular with the masses. So they invent ever more powerful boogeymen to blame for their lack of success in selling their snake oil.

The people aren’t buying into their claims that CO2 is going to kill us all, so they invent massive conspiracies on the part of oil companies to explain this away.

AndyHce
Reply to  MarkW
November 14, 2021 10:35 am

No, they see oil companies as massive pots of gold to rob.

Thomas Gasloli
November 14, 2021 7:03 am

It is a greater display of power to ruin something than to make something better. When you ruin something you show not only that you have power, but that no one has the power to stop you.

Understand this and you will understand the Biden administration and the “elites” generally.

They know they are making things worse; they want to make things worse, they are doing it deliberately to show they cannot be stopped, and they laugh while they do it.

glenn holdcroft
Reply to  Thomas Gasloli
November 14, 2021 8:59 pm

Doubt if Biden has much to do with the Biden administration .

Steve Case
November 14, 2021 7:11 am

What a depressing post.

sid
Reply to  Steve Case
November 14, 2021 7:27 am

and we all know this is the Biden that asked them to turn up the oil supply

Redge
November 14, 2021 7:20 am

“Gas-lighting”, to remind ourselves, refers to psychological manipulation over an extended period of time that causes victims to question the validity of their own perception, leading to confusion and a dependency on the perpetrator. That is a serious charge indeed.

And one that should be levelled fairly and squarely at the watermelons who created this fallacy in the first place and have continued to corrupt the minds of young people for over 40 years

Charlie
Reply to  Redge
November 14, 2021 8:20 am

And at the media. The so-called climate crisis is one huge gaslighting operation by them.

glenn holdcroft
Reply to  Charlie
November 14, 2021 9:16 pm

But bad news sells whether true or false .

Redge
November 14, 2021 7:29 am

Isn’t it time the fossil fuel industries took action and withdraw their products for a limited time, say 2 weeks as a starter, to show the world just how much of modern life is dependent on reliables?

Or at the very least start fighting back

LdB
Reply to  Redge
November 14, 2021 7:36 am

We the public and accomplices of big oil would definitely prefer they not and we vote.

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Redge
Reply to  LdB
November 14, 2021 7:53 am

Well, yes, that would be better but we ain’t gonna get a vote on the matter

These days, even if you vote for the Tories you get socialists

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Redge
November 14, 2021 11:14 am

Would be better to withdraw their products from anyone who voted for these administrations.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Redge
November 14, 2021 1:29 pm

The current FF market conditions are doing just that. But politicians, NGOs, MSM and ideologues of all stripes will lie as to the true causes of the privation.

Olen
November 14, 2021 7:36 am

How brave the Democrats are to commit abuse after abuse and not worry about reelection. Or perhaps how confident.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Olen
November 14, 2021 1:45 pm

Authoritarians always overreach. It’s in their nature.

John Garrett
November 14, 2021 7:39 am

There is a 97% consensus that NPR is a collection of idiots:

Gasoline prices are surging. Can Biden actually do something about it?

https://www.npr.org/2021/11/14/1055068583/gasoline-prices-gas-energy-inflation-biden

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  John Garrett
November 14, 2021 11:15 am

I keep hearing this about gas prices, but the Chevron where I usually fill up hasn’t gone up in more than 8 months.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
November 14, 2021 1:46 pm

What’s it cost?

LdB
November 14, 2021 7:42 am

The best bit about COP26 is it’s the gift that keeps on giving. A few sucker countries promised to do more and yet watch next years CO2 will be 4% up. We might even crack the 40GT mark all going well.

Lets party at COP27 next year and celebrate how well this all panned out 🙂

Last edited 2 months ago by LdB
Tom
November 14, 2021 8:06 am

Since they lack the technological or economic means to achieve their stated goals, the climate change industry needs a scapegoat for their obvious failure. The oil and gas industry is serving this purpose. And, since their agenda includes political and economic change far beyond anything to do with climate, they are going to throw everything at it they can possibly think of in order to keep it going. The idea of climate change is far more important than any actual climate change.

John K. Sutherland
November 14, 2021 8:20 am

Rampant inflation, just ahead. It is the free market’s way of working around the idiots.

Greg S.
November 14, 2021 8:28 am

I don’t know about you, but I sure am not comfortable with having some of the world’s biggest villains influencing & dictating the fate of the world.

That’s real cute. She must be quite uncomfortable then, because the world’s biggest villains are, right now, influencing and dictating the fate of the world through all this “climate crisis” BS.

Last edited 2 months ago by Greg S.
Oldseadog
Reply to  Greg S.
November 14, 2021 9:24 am

” ….. world’s biggest villains …. ”
It takes one to know one.

Aaron
November 14, 2021 8:32 am

I hate to pick nit, but Granholm wasn’t asked about gas prices, or even oil prices. She was asked what her plan for increasing American oil production. She either didn’t understand the question or artfully dodged it. Everyone else seems to have misunderstood it as well.

TonyL
Reply to  Aaron
November 14, 2021 9:32 am

She was asked straight up about her plan to increase oil production, that is 100% correct.
Aaron writes:
She either didn’t understand the question

“That is hilarious,” Granholm said, throwing her head back with laughter

or artfully dodged it

She laughed like crazy. Apparently, energy production is a hilarious subject to her. Some “artful dodge”. This is the Energy Secretary of the US. She thinks energy production is a big joke.
She understood the question all right. She understood it perfectly.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  TonyL
November 14, 2021 1:49 pm

Yes, she understood the question. It just struck her funny that someone would expect the Biden administration to want to increase oil production, when she knows that’s not in the cards.

Philo
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 14, 2021 5:53 pm

It did not strike her funny bone, the laughter was, as almost everything a department head in the US Government does, they rehearse what responses for certain more dangerous or emphatic questions.

They don’t answer, they ignore or divert difficult or unwanted questions.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Philo
November 15, 2021 6:29 am

You think she practiced that laugh?

Mr.
Reply to  Aaron
November 14, 2021 9:43 am

True.
I vote for artful dodging.

paul courtney
Reply to  Aaron
November 15, 2021 8:54 am

Aaron, not sure who you are picking nits with in this string. You are correct she was asked about production. In the context of rising prices, the question is at least indirectly about price. The real reason for this response is to correct this- J. Granholm is not bright enough to qualify for “artful”. She dodged by first laughing, then pitching an utterly debunked Dem talking point. She didn’t get the memo that U.S. production could bring down the “global market” price BECAUSE IT DID! So I had to jump in to say, not an “artful” dodge.
Also, she didn’t misunderstand the question at all, she just can’t admit that U.S. should produce oil. She’s not smart enough to come up with an original lie, she has to repeat a debunked lie. She is very grateful for Meg Whitmer, because we can no longer say that Granholm was the dumbest MI gov of all time.

Paul Johnson
November 14, 2021 8:41 am

Who imagined that human extinction would be a self-fulfilling prophesy?

Reply to  Paul Johnson
November 14, 2021 9:47 am

OT answer:
Austria starts a lockdown for not vaccinated people.
My conclusion:
The non-vaccinated are protected while the vaccinated infect among themselves 😀

Last edited 2 months ago by Krishna Gans
MAL
Reply to  Krishna Gans
November 14, 2021 11:10 am

It looks like the only thing the vaccine is good at. is keep you from every having natural immunity. That what a study in England is showing.

Last edited 2 months ago by MAL
Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Krishna Gans
November 14, 2021 11:18 am

None of these administrations have learned that lockdowns do nothing but delay the inevitable.

Or, they don’t care, and just enjoy the abject control of their citizens.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Krishna Gans
November 14, 2021 1:39 pm

Well, I caught the ChiCom virus (WuFlu) in July, 2020, again in October, 2020, had the two jabs in February, 2021 and got the disease again in October, 2021. At the age of 73, I assume I’ll probably get it again, the state of my luck. Each time has been like a week-long bad cold. The ChiCom gift will be with us forever and everybody, knowingly or not, will get it. Government: “Never let a crisis go to waste.”

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Krishna Gans
November 14, 2021 1:57 pm

We just found out that the U.S. government pays no attention as to whether a person who has had the Wuhan virus infection can get infected a second time, or whether they are safe from a second infection. They are not collecting statistics for this question for some unknown reason.

I was wondering if anyone knows of others who are collecting this information? Israel? Others?

The elites in the U.S. act like gaining immunity after getting a Wuhan virus infection has no significance.

markl
November 14, 2021 8:52 am

Oil producers are in a no win situation and they know it. Keep pumping and they’re killing the planet or stop pumping and they’re killing the people.

Gregory Woods
Reply to  markl
November 14, 2021 9:04 am

Keep pumping and they’re killing the planet

and just what makes you think that piece of fantasy?

markl
Reply to  Gregory Woods
November 14, 2021 10:00 am

Written from the media perspective, not mine.

Teddy Lee
Reply to  markl
November 14, 2021 11:41 am

One is real,the other is imaginary.

November 14, 2021 9:14 am

Here’s my take on COP 26. The decision was a nice failure but some heavy duty promises got made along the way. This ain’t over.

https://www.cfact.org/2021/11/14/cop-26-radicals-lose-on-every-issue/

Peta of Newark
November 14, 2021 9:31 am

Quote:”Teenage climate icon Greta Thunberg, whose tirades have repeatedly gone viral on social media over the past two weeks, tweeted “I don’t know about you, but I sure am not comfortable with having some of the world’s biggest villains influencing & dictating

Fine words Greta, fine words indeed

What’s gonna happen when you dscover you’re talking about your own father………

Richard Page
Reply to  Peta of Newark
November 14, 2021 2:29 pm

Darth Vader moment? Nooooooooooo………..

Kevin kilty
November 14, 2021 9:39 am

The Western oil majors have long been accustomed to being accused of being the new tobacco lobby, selling poison and destroying lives, 

Forgot to add “price gougers”

MAL
Reply to  Kevin kilty
November 14, 2021 11:14 am

My friend a strong Dimm had a similar comment. The only reason price if gas is going up is so the oil companies’ can make lots of money. Supply and demand some how is lost on the left. It the same reason they think printing money has no effect.

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  MAL
November 16, 2021 12:06 pm

Well anyone who supports a political party that thinks socialism is a good thing clearly doesn’t understand the first thing about economics or human nature,

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  AGW is Not Science
November 16, 2021 12:06 pm

or history.

mike
November 14, 2021 9:41 am

Biting the hand that feeds you has always been a losing proposition throughout history.
I’m concerned about the collateral damage to innocent people that will result from the stupid actions of the green idiots.

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George Daddis
November 14, 2021 9:43 am

“We want them to go bankrupt if we want to tackle climate change.” 
“Consequences? We don’t recognize no stinkin’ consequences.”

If petroleum companies go bankrupt, where do you get the lubricants for your wind turbines and EVs?
Look at what you are wearing, is it all cotton, wool and silk?
Anything in your home made of plastic?

Critical thinking is not a strength of Biden nominees.

Abolition Man
November 14, 2021 9:51 am

For all those who believe that fossil fuels, especially oil, are evil and dangerous; please prove your commitment to the environment by hence forth using only an electric hair dryer or heat gun for boiling water!

This should not only help you achieve “Net Zero,” but will also serve to prove that the small amount of CO2 added to the atmosphere is responsible for the increase in ocean temperatures; thus leading to a runaway greenhouse effect! Go ahead, I’ll wait here with bated breath!

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Abolition Man
November 16, 2021 12:09 pm

That won’t teach the appropriate lesson unless it’s a hair dryer or heat gun powered by a solar panel.

Steve Case
November 14, 2021 9:57 am

And if shutting down the Keystone XL pipeline was not enough, the White House admitted early this week that it is studying the impact of shutting down the L5 pipeline which carries oil and gas liquids from Canada through Wisconsin and Michigan. 
__________________________________

I read that and thought, that really isn’t true is it? From the WUWT link provided above:

     New York Post headline:

     Biden might close Michigan pipeline, 
     WH admits after calling report bogus

     [T]he Fox reporter … asked whether the administration
     was “studying the impact of shutting down the Line 5.”​

     “​Yes we are​,” Jean-Pierre admitted.

So WattsUpWithThat got it right.

We are a only eleven month’s into the Biden administration. One can only imagine what else they are going to do for the next three plus years.

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2hotel9
Reply to  Steve Case
November 14, 2021 10:52 am

From my reading over the last couple of years Line 5 has some serious issues where it crosses from Canada into US, was talk of shutting down to replace/repair, then Whitmer made statement she would block permits for it and everything has just been toddling along since. Seeing as a failure of the line where it crosses water would effectively shut it down there may not be a choice. Xiden Admin may well just be piggybacking on this to make themselves look a bit better to the extreme environtards in Democrat Party.

MAL
Reply to  2hotel9
November 14, 2021 11:16 am

They are presently in the process of replacing that pipe line. The replacement is what would be shut down. It construction is close to completion.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  MAL
November 14, 2021 2:08 pm

I heard the guy in charge of this pipeline explaining how they were doing a very good job on the pipeline and went into a few details, including showing us the thickness of the metal in the new pipe carrying the oil. It looked pretty stout.

2hotel9
Reply to  MAL
November 15, 2021 3:20 am

So they managed to circumvent Whitmer’s intervention and get it done anyway. Last article I read she was determined to stop it using her “emergency powers” as governor.

TonyL
Reply to  2hotel9
November 14, 2021 11:29 am

From my reading over the last couple of years Line 5 has some serious issues
My reading is that there are no serious issues with the pipeline. The “serious issues” are all “may be”, “might be”, “possibly”, “could happen” type environmentalist scare stories brought forward by all the usual environmentalist suspects. Of course, the media amplifies the narrative, presenting the scare stories as “fact”.

Item: there is a project under way to replace the pipeline. The company is using directional drilling from the oil drilling world to drill a tunnel through solid bedrock *underneath* the Great Lakes. The new pipeline would be run through the tunnel. Thus the possibility of an oil spill contaminating the Great Lakes is utterly eliminated. Governor Whitmer has seen fit to tie the replacement pipeline up in environmental red tape. {Calculate the environmental impact of a hole in rock 1000 ft. below the surface. Sure.} This is not about the safety of the pipeline, it is about the pipeline. Last I heard, the replacement project was completely halted and stalled out.

2hotel9
Reply to  TonyL
November 15, 2021 3:43 am

The articles I read last year made to point it is old and not well maintained. Only saw one piece about tunneling under Mackinac Straits, sounded like a good idea so I can see why the environtards are so determined in opposition to it.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  2hotel9
November 14, 2021 2:05 pm

“Xiden Admin may well just be piggybacking on this to make themselves look a bit better to the extreme environtards in Democrat Party.”

If Biden is stupid enough to stop this pipeline, the Democrats won’t be winning Michigan or Ohio, or the other States affected for a long time, I predict.

This stoppage would devastate these economies quickly.

Any Democrat that thinks this is a good idea is completely out to lunch.

2hotel9
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 15, 2021 3:36 am

Yep, they are, look at everything Faux Joe and his puppeteers have done since January. Look to what they are doing just today that they are so proud of.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Steve Case
November 14, 2021 10:58 am

We are a only eleven month’s into the Biden administration. One can only imagine what else they are going to do for the next three plus years.

Rome wasn’t destroyed in a day! They need time.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
November 14, 2021 2:14 pm

Let’s hope the Biden administration only has about 14 more months before the Republicans gain the power to shut him down. Hopefully, Trump will be leading that charge as Speaker of the House, come January 2023.

And,there are other circumstances such as Manchin and Sinema and general chaos which may slow Biden down before that time.

Oklahoma’s governor has just declared that the Oklahoma National Guard will not be subject to a vaccination mandate. That ought to get ole Joe’s blood boiling.

Texas National Guards are starting to arrest the Mexican Coyotes who are bringing illegal aliens into the Untied States.

Things are starting to move in a more positive direction (if you are not a leftist).

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Tom Abbott
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 16, 2021 4:30 am

Yesterday, Oklahoma’s Attorney General said healthcare workers in Oklahoma were not subject to the vaccine mandate.

I guess Oklahoma politicians seem to think that firing hundreds of health care workers for not getting a vaccine is not in the interests of Oklahoma.

I bet Oklahoma politicians are really starting to irritate Biden. That’s ok, it all evens out, as Oklahoma politicians are really irritated at Biden, too. Along with most of the people of Oklahoma.

TonyL
Reply to  Steve Case
November 14, 2021 11:01 am

We are a only eleven month’s into the Biden administration.

Check your calendar, we are just coming on to 10 months in. The damage has been faster and worse than anything I could have imagined. Wait for the inflation and the gas lines. With the stores out of food.

I can order up a prophesy. This can not and will not go on for 3 more years. Either the Biden administration collapses and has to be replaced, or the US collapses, within 3 years.
1) The Administration fails:
This means both Biden *and* Harris are replaced. How and by who, I could not possibly say.
2) The US collapses:
Inflation. The Administration gets it’s “Build Back Better” spending plan, 5.5 Trillion in new spending the govt. does not have. Inflation makes continued financing of the National Debt impossible. The dollar collapses. Game Over.

3) A back room plot from hell:
The Administration succeeds in spending and fiscal/monetary policies which ensure disaster. With disaster looming and unstoppable, the Administration “retires” and hands power to their opposition. Just in time for them to be blamed for the economic collapse. The media provides “top cover” to the Administration the whole way.

Where have we seen this before:
1) The Pres. and VP are replaced.
Richard Nixon had to resign, his VP, Spiro Agnew, is toxic. Agnew resigns, is replaced by Gerald Ford. Nixon then resigns, Ford becomes President.
2) The currency collapses due solely to rampaging Govt. policy, and a prosperous country is destroyed. Venezuela – enough said.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  TonyL
November 14, 2021 2:24 pm

I heard this moring on the news that the Biden administration is trying to get Mexico to discourage immigrants from Venezuela from traveling through Mexico to the United States.

It seems Biden does not want immigrants from Venezuela coming to the United States. Why? Because Venezuelans know what socialism looks like first hand, and none of them would vote for the Democrat socialists.

It just goes to show that the open border policy of Biden’s is all about trying to increase the Democrat vote in future elections by adding illegal aliens to the Democrat voting rolls. Except Venezuelans. If they can’t count on them to vote Democrat, then the Democrats don’t want them.

B. Hammer
November 14, 2021 10:15 am

Oil companies need to continually point the millions of products that are only possible do to petroleum. For instance: Where would western medicine be without petroleum?

2hotel9
November 14, 2021 10:45 am

If these leftards were 1/2 as educated as they claim they are they would be gagging on the irony of making such proclamations using and benefitting from the very products produced by oil producers.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  2hotel9
November 14, 2021 11:03 am

I propose that Democrats are afflicted with a disease similar to toxoplasmosis, which causes mice to irrationally act against their best interests and become a meal for cats.

Abolition Man
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
November 14, 2021 12:32 pm

Clyde,
In this case the toxic substance poisoning their minds is Progressivism, or neo-Marxism if you will!
Under the influence of this nihilistic, Godless religion the mind is filled with a wide variety of fatally infectious thoughts and ideas that “liberate” the holder from rational thinking! Logic, the scientific method, the rule of law, and most other foundational blocks of our civilization are thrown out as the Progressive clergy attempt to remake humans into their nightmare delusions!
Think of Saruman creating the Uruk-hai in the bowels of Isengard and you get a pretty accurate picture of our “modern” education system, and the long term goals of the DemoKKKrats!

Bill Everett
Reply to  2hotel9
November 14, 2021 11:07 am

I doubt that most if any of the COP26 participants know the percentage of the total human input of CO2 into the atmosphere.

2hotel9
Reply to  Bill Everett
November 15, 2021 3:12 am

Since that number is pointless and irrelevant they just make it up.

MAL
November 14, 2021 11:03 am

Every wonder why the Bidens are after the Saudi and Russia so bad, Every Democrat President has worked on destabilizing the oil producing countries(even our own.) Making oil to expensive has been their plan all along.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  MAL
November 14, 2021 2:26 pm

Biden, like Obama, sides with the Mad Mullahs of Iran, and so naturally, they oppose the Saudis, who are the enemies of the Mad Mullahs.

Rich Davis
November 14, 2021 11:07 am

I don’t know about you, but I sure am not comfortable with having some of the world’s biggest villains influencing & dictating the fate of the world. (Grrrrrrrrrreta)

Villains like Biden, Kerry, Mr. Nut-Nuts, Xi, …?

Bruce Cobb
November 14, 2021 12:05 pm

Greta has helpfully summarized COP26 as follows:
“Blah, blah, blah.”
Thanks, Greta. You’re the best.

Abolition Man
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
November 14, 2021 12:34 pm

Bruce,
That’s one of the smartest statements she’s ever made!

Dave Fair
Reply to  Abolition Man
November 14, 2021 1:55 pm

That, and chanting obscenities.

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Tom Abbott
November 14, 2021 12:47 pm

From the article: “Teenage climate icon Greta Thunberg, whose tirades have repeatedly gone viral on social media over the past two weeks, tweeted “I don’t know about you, but I sure am not comfortable with having some of the world’s biggest villains influencing & dictating the fate of the world.”

Me, either! I am definitely not comfortable with having Michael Mann and his cronies at the UN IPCC dictating the fate of the world.

They can’t be trusted to tell us the truth.

Tom Abbott
November 14, 2021 12:50 pm

From the article: “This is par for the course for Biden’s Democratic administration which has demonized the US oil and gas sector since achieving office. In the eyes of the administration, the oil giant had for years raised doubts about climate change, as in 1997 when its then-CEO Lee Raymond said the “case for global warming is far from airtight” and that scientific evidence was “inconclusive.”

Mr. Raymond was exactly right. It was inconclusive when he said it, and it is still inconclusive, although the case for natural variablity is getting better.

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 16, 2021 12:24 pm

Actually if by “global warming” he meant the notion that it is “caused by human fossil fuel use,” then the “case” was pretty conclusive – “global warming” is well within the range of, and the rate of, natural climate variability, so the “case” was clearly conclusive – “global warming” is just natural variability.

Unless somebody has some actual empirical evidence to the contrary. Which they have managed not to produce any of after more than three decades and billions of dollars of “climate” research.

4 Eyes
November 14, 2021 1:48 pm

“I don’t know about you, but I sure am not comfortable with having some of the world’s biggest villains influencing & dictating the fate of the world.” Well Greta, I am not comfortable with silly ignorant activists influencing and dictating the fate of the world. Go jump. Now, I’ll read the rest of the article.

MM from Canada
November 14, 2021 2:12 pm

Teenage climate icon Greta Thunberg, whose tirades have repeatedly gone viral on social media over the past two weeks, tweeted “I don’t know about you, but I sure am not comfortable with having some of the world’s biggest villains influencing & dictating the fate of the world.”

Funny, neither am I. But I don’t think we’re talking about the same people.

Gunga Din
November 14, 2021 2:34 pm

Why vilify only oil (and coal) producers.
Why not vilify every consumer? How many of the COP people walked there?
Do Kerry’s private jets use oil products?
Ground Air Force One.
In a crisis, send Biden aloft in a Hot Air balloon.
That would be fitting.

Gunga Din
Reply to  Gunga Din
November 15, 2021 10:54 am

PS USS George Washington Parke Custis (1861)Not quite as far back as they want put the rest of civilization, but hey, why not start at the top?
Lead by example!

lee riffee
November 14, 2021 3:14 pm

IMO the perfect response to Greta and all of her ilk is very much like the response the left always gives regarding abortion – “if you believe that fossil fuels are causing climate change, then don’t use them!”
It’s too bad that the oil companies don’t try to do more when it comes to educating people about all of the uses (and necessities) of oil and products made from/with oil and gas. And also too bad the MSM doesn’t trap greens in their own hypocrisy…. Someone (actually all reporters who have the opportunity) should ask Greta and her entourage what their clothing is made of, how they got from point A to point B, how they heat/cool/ventilate their homes, where their food comes from, etc, etc.
IMO this would be the best way to attack this kind of hypocritical nonsense….

chickenhawk
November 14, 2021 3:23 pm

why the hate for oil?
isn’t oil natural on this planet?
isn’t oil produced from the bosom of mother earth?
isn’t oil an all organic natural product?

Oil is a representation of the life force of our ancestral mother Gaia.

and nobody messes with mother nature!

John
November 14, 2021 7:14 pm

and I’m not comfortable having a moron swedish dropout commenting on things she knows nothing about but getting the misguided media attention she does

Matthew Sykes
November 15, 2021 12:06 am

Doesnt Greta realise her plastic yellow jacket is made from oil? Is she really that stupid?

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Matthew Sykes
November 16, 2021 12:30 pm

YES! Really THAT stupid!

As are most who promote a “cause” guaranteed to leave them freezing to death and starving to death in the dark.

Lurker Pete
November 15, 2021 3:33 am

Typical rent seekers, appoint the wrong villans, while working for the real villans.

https://rairfoundation.com/exposed-klaus-schwabs-school-for-covid-dictators-plan-for-great-reset-videos/

observa
November 15, 2021 4:46 am

About time they up and left the crazy regimes if they’re not wanted-
Shell plans UK relocation, sparking Dutch outrage (msn.com)

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