COP26 Ends In Humiliating Failure


By Paul Homewood

The UN’s climate agenda has finally hit the buffers in Glasgow.

It almost happened in Copenhagen 12 years ago, when developing nations refused to limit their economic growth to satisfy the West. It was only the promise of hundreds of billions of dollars that persuaded them to come along for the ride.

The can was kicked down the road again in 2015 at Paris, when developing countries were given carte blanche to carry on increasing emissions.

But sooner or later, the time would come for action, not talk. And when it came to the crunch, the developing nations rebelled, led by India, China, South Africa and Iran. The touchpaper was this clause in the Draft Agreement, which was presented to the conference yesterday:

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India along with a host of like minded countries knew that they could not run their economies without coal and other fossil fuels, never mind grow them and relieve poverty. Faced with the whole Agreement being lost, Alok Sharma and the UN organisers backed down, and replaced the words “phase-out” with “phase-down”. Just one word changed, but its effect was devastating for the Agreement.

Given that there is no obligation to do any of this (hence the term “Calls”), and no timescales are mentioned, India and the rest can interpret this clause any way they want. (Unabated coal, by the way, means where the carbon is not captured). In short, they will be able to carry on burning all the coal they want, for as long as they want.

The rest of the Agreement is pretty weak and ineffectual as well. It is full of terms such as “urges”, “requests” and “invites”, which mean there is no obligation on anybody to do anything.

And all COP26 has really agreed on is to meet up again next year and discuss things again.

In terms of Mitigation, ie reducing emissions, countries who have not yet submitted new plans are requested to do so next year. But if they have not done so yet, it is hardly likely they will come up with anything meaningful next year.

The Agreement inevitably “reaffirms” the 1.5C target. It would have been politically impossible to do otherwise. However, 1.5C was never an option, and was effectively kicked into touch at Paris, when it was acknowledged that emissions would carry on rising till 2030. According to the science, emissions would need to be cut in half in this decade to hit 1.5C, something which is clearly not remotely possible now.

Parties are also requested to come back next year with strengthened targets. But again, are countries that have just submitted new targets this year going to propose anything significantly different next year?

Then, of course, there is the money. There is a lot of “urging” and “requesting” developed countries to cough up:

But already the bar is being raised, with the third world demanding ever more. One significant item introduced at COP26 is the demand by developing nations that finance for adaption to climate change should be ramped up at the expense of mitigation.

In other words, they don’t want money for solar panels. They’d rather have it for building resilience against climate change (by which they mean weather!).

One further blow to those demanding western money has been the neutering of their Loss and Damage agenda. This is the ludicrous claim that all weather disasters are due to global warming, and that rich countries should therefore pay poor ones every time there is a bit of bad weather.

That was too much for even Joe Biden to accept, as it would leave the West on the hook for ever. The Glasgow Pact has effectively kicked this into touch, just promising more talks at some time in the future.

Naturally supporters of the UN agenda, such as the BBC, have tried to make the best of a bad job, claiming that “progress has been made”. The absurd Matt McGrath calls it “ambitious” and “progressive”.

Some have even claimed that the 1.5C target is still alive. Chris Stark, Chief Executive of the Committee on Climate Change, for instance stated:

This shows just how out of touch he is with reality. Living in his little bubble, he seems to think the rest of the world shares his obsession with climate change.

But as the Climate Action tracker reaffirms, emissions will carry on growing, despite the new plans submitted to COP26:

The end of the road.

In my view, we have seen the beginning of the end for the UN’s climate agenda.

There will no doubt be many more COPs to come. And there will be annual warnings from Prince Charles that we have 12 more months to save the planet.

But the writing is now on the wall. Developing countries around the world are standing up and refusing to cut back on fossil fuels, because they know they have no alternative if they want to grown their economies and give their people a better life.

They have got off the Climate Train.

So should we.

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4E Douglas
November 14, 2021 10:08 pm

Well if that isn’t a spanner in the wind turbine….

Robert Leslie Stevenson
Reply to  4E Douglas
November 15, 2021 1:24 am

There isn’t a whole lot of wind about this autumn perhaps its been used up already

Reply to  Robert Leslie Stevenson
November 15, 2021 1:51 am

Bidens shart stopped the wind in its tracks.

Mumbles McGuirck
Reply to  SxyxS
November 15, 2021 6:13 am

There’s a mighty wind blowing from COP26, and it’s name is Joe Biden. 😂

Michael in Dublin
Reply to  Mumbles McGuirck
November 15, 2021 6:21 am

It’s an ill wind that blows nobody any good – literally and not idiomatically.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Mumbles McGuirck
November 15, 2021 8:33 am

Its the Let’s Go Brandon effect, similar to the Gore effect. The UK should station #FJB in the North Sea.

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  Robert Leslie Stevenson
November 15, 2021 3:42 am

It is surprisingly NOT windy here in my part of Portugal, which is normally very windy. One of the first things my new neighbors warned me about was the tendency for my driveway to turn into a wind tunnel almost daily. And I have experienced that phenomena often, just not currently and in the past few months….

Reply to  Robert Leslie Stevenson
November 15, 2021 8:40 am

We have reached “peak wind”….

Reply to  Grater
November 15, 2021 12:58 pm

peak windbag?

Reply to  4E Douglas
November 15, 2021 3:30 am

Less a spanner than a pile of green excrement.

Art Slartibartfast
November 14, 2021 10:21 pm

I bet that at COP 27 in Sharm-el-sheik, Egypt, someone will turn off the air conditioning and open the windows to “motivate” the participants.

Reply to  Art Slartibartfast
November 14, 2021 10:31 pm

It was reported that the hot water was turned off in the hotel in Glasgow to save energy or for some foolish reason.

Reply to  TEWS_Pilot
November 15, 2021 1:55 am

That was a good idea.
With the energy that was saved one of those private jets can fly 47 yards further.

Peter Wells
Reply to  SxyxS
November 15, 2021 4:44 am

But only after it is already airborne.

Reply to  Peter Wells
November 15, 2021 6:51 am

And on a glide path

Reply to  TEWS_Pilot
November 15, 2021 4:05 am

From my brief foray into Glasgow, more likely someone forgot / couldn’t afford to feed the hot water meter. I stopped by a discotheque wherein the Glaswegian ladies had all saved for their gowns and makeup by not taking hot shower baths.

November 14, 2021 10:23 pm

The COP26 Meeting in Glasgow ended In humiliating failure… what a relief, what a success, keep up the Good Work there.

Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
November 15, 2021 5:45 am

Going by the United Nations records, the Council of Parties “meetings” never were intended to be “successful” at stopping climate change. All the “research” done in support at best deals with little, tiny fractions of the biosphere. Any scientific basis for “global warming” or “climate change” is still simply without any scientific basis. The ongoing “climate modelling continues on with very limited “math models” of the climate that do not have the capability to model any single climate because they leave out many effects on the climate because they cannot be modeled, and in most cases are unknown.

The latest fiasco has been the total disregard by the intelligenstia of the variability of the sun. No model includes solar variability despite the fact that the current likely “cold snap” is due to a long-predicted Solar Grand Maximum similar to the Maunder Minimum. Colder weather for at least 10, maybe 20 or more years of temperatures 2 deg C lower than the recent past.

Lies, corruption, misdirection, and political maneuvering for money and power is all.

Martin Siebert
Reply to  Philo
November 15, 2021 7:04 am

And if the solar drop reduces the global temperature +- 1°C…
The warmists will say it was because of COP26 and all their efforts…and they saved the planet! ooohh!

Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
November 15, 2021 6:51 am

If it had ended in success, there wouldn’t have been an excuse to hold another party next year.

Reply to  MarkW
November 15, 2021 8:06 am

Yes, since “THE SCIENCE” has been settled for > 20 years now, one wonders what delegates find to talk about at these conferences.

Maybe what movies they watched on the flight there?
(disaster movies only of course)

November 14, 2021 10:25 pm

China and India played the SUCKERS like a Stradivarius….and they came away with ALL the prizes and NO obligations while the FOOLS in the West pick up ALL the bills and MUST commit national economic suicide by DESTROYING all of their DEPENDABLE, RELIABLE, EFFICIENT, ABUNDANT, CHEAP energy sources.

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November 14, 2021 10:31 pm

Yeah! The developing countries are making progress again with their refusal! Am just pitying the Thunbergian eejits, because this isn’t the kind of progress THEY want 😀

November 14, 2021 10:32 pm

Funny that, I remember when South Africa was a developed nation with a functioning western economy, active industries, etc. Now I believe it struggles to keep the lights on for more than a few days a week and constantly has its begging bowl out for ‘special’ loans, etc. Except that it government comrades and cadres steal everything.

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Reply to  Streetcred
November 15, 2021 1:32 am

Indeed. Corruption destroys economic development.

The poster child for corruption might be Haiti. Compare it with the Dominican Republic, with which it shares the island of Hispaniola. If you look at satellite pictures, it’s easy to tell where the border is. link

The demand for coal depends on the level of economic development, which in turn is an inverse function of corruption.

If you want to reduce coal consumption, the obvious solution is to promote corruption. I’m not sure whether to laugh or cry.

Reply to  commieBob
November 15, 2021 9:54 am

Pigment destroys economic development. There I corrected it for you.
Don’t agree? Name 1, really only 1, country with a positive pigment development ratio. You can’t. Even when presented with a blank slate everything goes to sh*t, see Liberia.

The sooner we acknowledge this as grown-ups the sooner we can get started to solving the problem.

Reply to  huls
November 15, 2021 10:54 am

What is a pigment ratio?

John Larson
Reply to  huls
November 15, 2021 11:41 am

If you were in the same position as those individuals whose corruption retards economic development do you believe you would not behave similarly? If not, why not?

Reply to  Streetcred
November 15, 2021 3:35 am

I like South Africa, because no one pretends corruption isn’t happening. No ‘directorships’ ‘consultancy fees’ ‘ deniable nepotism’ ‘insider trading’.

“Corruption” – as Zuma’s lawyer said – “is a western thing”.

In Africa it’s simply taking care of your (extended) family.

Reply to  Streetcred
November 15, 2021 6:53 am

Same goes for Zimbabwe. Back when it was Rhodesia they had a functioning economy and were considered the breadbasket of Africa.

Reply to  Streetcred
November 15, 2021 8:10 am

Papua New Guinea fits this condition as well.

Phillip Bratby
November 14, 2021 10:50 pm

The good news is that in future they are going to use “the best available scientific knowledge” (clause 23). So a complete about-turn as they throw away the junk science they have been using so far. Somebody has better point this out to the BBC.

Keith Gordon
Reply to  Phillip Bratby
November 15, 2021 1:28 am

Yes Philip I can see in future the “best available science” will slowly dial down the effect of Co2 it’s the only way the West gets off the hook and continue using fossil fuels without guilt. Don’t expect it will be quick but it’s the only way out of the mess they have created.

Reply to  Keith Gordon
November 15, 2021 3:39 am

I think that how they will get off the hook, is by going massively nuclear. They will never admit that climate change itself was a total fraud, they will just realize that “having gone nuclear”, it’s “not as bad as we feared”.

I strongly suspect that ex of political inerference, the cost of fossils will rise to exceed nuclear power fairly soon. And the problems of renewables are writ large for anyone to see.

Irrespective of climate change, the future is nuclear, largely.

Keith Gordon
Reply to  Leo Smith
November 15, 2021 6:25 am

Thanks for the reply Leo, that is indeed an option, however with the gross failure of COP26 in the eyes of Greta’s followers and the lunatic fringe, civil unrest could escalate something governments could not tolerate. They would have to react, interesting to see how it all develops.

Robert Hanson
Reply to  Leo Smith
November 15, 2021 8:03 am

Nuclear is not a short term solution. Not just because it takes so long to actually build the plants, but also because the NIMBY folks will keep it all tied up in the courts for years.

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Robert Hanson
November 15, 2021 12:52 pm

Eyes are getting off the ball, again.

There is no need for a “solution” because there is NOT a “problem” that requires said “solution” to begin with.

Reply to  Phillip Bratby
November 15, 2021 4:35 am

“the best available scientific knowledge”

What was it Phil Jones said?

Oh, yes:

“Kevin and I will keep them out [of the IPCC report] somehow — even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is!”

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Redge
November 15, 2021 8:36 am

The climate change game was rigged from the start by people like Phil Jones.

November 14, 2021 10:53 pm

What are “common but differentiated responsibilities and respective capabilities” (Paragraph 23)? Is this just bureaucratic gobbledygook?

Reply to  Retired_Engineer_Jim
November 14, 2021 11:07 pm

Paul Homewood “Then, of course, there is the money. There is a lot of “urging” and “requesting” developed countries to cough up”

8 statement each and everyone demanding money before action could be taken .
No action plan except a repeat of Scott Morrison’s “when technology develops”.
Then asking for more money for unknown technology.
I forgot.
A promise to come back in a year to check how much money they were able to winkle out.
Abba to the max.

Reply to  angech
November 15, 2021 5:45 am

Urging and requesting sounds a lot like a high school boy trying to get laid … well, at least back in the day when it was considered proper for girls to retain their virginity … today that seems a little less woke than is considered proper.

Robert Hanson
Reply to  Retired_Engineer_Jim
November 15, 2021 8:04 am

What was you first clue? 🙂

Dave Fair
Reply to  Retired_Engineer_Jim
November 15, 2021 8:40 am

Yes, but gobbledygook meant to put the West on the hook and give China, India & etc. a free ride.

Greg in NZ
November 14, 2021 11:04 pm

“… if they want to grown their economies”.

It’s only a little ‘n’ I know, but hey. Unless the author meant ‘groan’ their economies?

Heard NZ’s Minister for Climate Change [sic] on the radio and, yes, he was groaning and moaning and whining about the total net zero achievement of conference #26. Guess he’s organising his NEXT taxpayers’ sponsored holiday in Egypt next year already.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Greg in NZ
November 15, 2021 8:38 am

Kerry says they will try harder at COP27.

November 14, 2021 11:18 pm

The U.S.A. uses right at 100 Quadrillion Btu’s of energy each year. Wind and Solar produced less than 4% of that total energy in 2019 according to the EIA. It is absolutely impractical to think that wind and solar can replace the conventional fossil fuels plus nuclear that has powered our good lives for years. COP-26 is more about weakening the U.S.A. and spreading the wealth of rich countries than of saving the planet. Would someone please wake up the MSM to have them report honestly? Net Zero America is a farce

Reply to  Dick Storm
November 15, 2021 2:01 am

Dick, agree totally.

(Also, 100 Quadrillion British Thermal Units would be, in modern scientific terms, 1800 PJ of energy. The great Richard Feynman joked about the preponderance of energy units. )

Reply to  Dick Storm
November 15, 2021 2:01 am

Try to replace the atomic drive of an aircraft carrier with sails and wou will soon realise where the problem is.
It’s not possible to run an economy on good intentions and virtue signalling.

Reply to  SxyxS
November 15, 2021 3:40 am

It certainly isn’t possible to run an effective military defence.

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  SxyxS
November 15, 2021 3:49 am

You are so right! But there is a huge disconnect between reality and what Greens profess to believe. Somehow they all think they can trash the economy that is supporting them in their current very comfortable lifestyle and yet still enjoy that comfort.

Reply to  Pamela Matlack-Klein
November 15, 2021 6:04 am

The Greens who want net zero via unreliables (which will trash any economy), and at the same time expect to keep the lights on and their smart phones operating, are useful idiots.

The GEBs (Globalist Evil Bastards**) pushing net zero are trying to collapse Western economies, and their useful idiots don’t realize that fact nor the implications.

That’s not a conspiracy theory. It’s a spoiler alert.

** Also stands for Greedy Evil Bastard. Your pick, depending on context, and most often the ‘G’ means both Greedy and Globalist.

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  H.R.
November 15, 2021 8:15 am

Still don’t see how the GEBs will be able to continue their extravagant lifestyle if they succeed in destroying Western economies and culture. I* can see it all going down the tubes and they can only horde so much, it will run out.

Reply to  Pamela Matlack-Klein
November 15, 2021 10:36 am

Same here, Pamela. And they want to cull the population.

I believe that the GEBs will cull the wrong people. Not all of them will be the wrong people, but tech has become so complex that no one person knows it all start to finish.

=> (Tech geeks here, please feel free to correct me if you or someone you know the entire process, start to finish, of say, how to make all of the components for cell phones and the send/receive/route gear for two cell phones to communicate.)

All it takes is one key person missing from our complex processes and you’re soon producing bricks.

I have faith in the hubris of our GEB ‘Elites’ that it will cause them to get rid of a few key people. Some of those key people are the dirty fingernail people that know how to keep the machines running that make the various components and modern gear we are so used to having.

I don’t think we can step back in tech just a little, either. Who knows how to make vacuum tubes for shortwave radios? Maybe someone here, but most of us are older and won’t be around to be forced at gunpoint to help out with tech that’s just a few generations back.

I hope the GEBs enjoy ordering spares for their aircraft by telegraph.


Reply to  H.R.
November 15, 2021 2:36 pm

If you want to see just how few people are truly expendable, have a read of this classic essay:
I, Pencil | Mises Institute

Reply to  JonasM
November 15, 2021 3:16 pm

That’s a good link to illustrate my point. Thanks, Jonas.

BTW, I can make a pencil, and the tools to make said pencil, start to finish, but it would be many pencil-generations back.

I can’t make the modern eraser and the eraser assembly on the pencil end, though. I could hand form the sheet and a finished eraser holder, but I don’t know enough about erasers.

So I Pencil’s ‘point’ is valid.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Dick Storm
November 15, 2021 8:40 am

“Would someone please wake up the MSM to have them report honestly?”

That’s not going to happen. The MSM has a climate change agenda and the truth doesn’t matter to them.

November 14, 2021 11:23 pm

This seems to be correct, just like Paris no-one committed to doing anything that will make any material difference to global emissions, and thus (on the theory) to global temperatures.

But the very alarming thing to the British must have been the antics of their Prime Minister and of Alok Sharma, a Cabinet Minister and the head of COP26, and the Chair of the Climate Action Implementation Committee.

A joint press conference at the end of the gathering showed that they do really believe this stuff. And the Conservative government really will be bent, along with all the other political parties in the UK, Labour, Liberals, Scottish Nationals, on the mad program Johnson has announced:

Move all cars to EVs
Move all gas heating to heatpumps
Move all gas supply to hydrogen
Move almost all power generation to wind and solar

They had the glazed look of true believers. Sharma earlier had tears in his eyes when announcing the change in the draft. They do really believe in the story of the climate emergency, as does the BBC and Guardian who promote it at every opportunity, and even the Telegraph now doesn’t dare to voice any skepticism. Rational discussion of the science of climate is now impossible in the UK. As indeed is rational discussion of the science of sex and gender and many other things, but that is another subject

And they also believe that the above UK program is not only possible but beneficial in some way.

It remains to be seen if they will seriously move to implementation, but if they do, and its looking more and more likely, prepare for a crash in the UK economy of a scale never previously seen, an epic episode of self harm. And also expect it to have absolutely no effect on the level of global CO2 emissions.

Reply to  michel
November 14, 2021 11:33 pm

The age of stupidity, not Aquarius.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  michel
November 15, 2021 12:08 am

Can anybody kindly tell me just how much “global warming” there has been in the last 20+ years??? I keep hearing all about “global warming/climate change” but nobody actually puts a number on it in that time frame. As said before a one & one-tenth degree Celcius rise in temperature over 150+ years doesn’t look particularly scary, & it certainly looks like global warming has stopped, at least for the time being with no warming of any significance since 1998

Mayor of Venus
Reply to  Alan the Brit
November 15, 2021 1:01 am

Dr. Roy Spencer updates the graph of satellite data every month, available on his website.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Mayor of Venus
November 15, 2021 3:26 am

Cheers I forgot to look at that site, Muppet!!!

Reply to  Alan the Brit
November 15, 2021 5:54 am

The “forecasts” all forgot about the sun(see above). The current solar grand minimum is responsible for the lack of “rise in temperature” during the 2020’s. “global warming” is likely to disappear for 10-20 years or more. Up yours to climate models and greedy politicians.

Richard M
Reply to  Alan the Brit
November 15, 2021 6:20 am

The “how much” tells you nothing about the cause.

“The TOA net flux was +0.75 W/m2 in 2020. The data shown in Figure 1, Figure 2 and Figure 3 suggest that the root cause for the positive TOA net flux and, hence, for a further accumulation of energy during the last two decades was a declining outgoing shortwave flux and not a retained LW flux. ” – Hans-Rolf Dübal and Fritz Vahrenholt, October 2021

The bottom line is basically that all the warming was due to solar energy reaching the surface due to a reduction in clouds. The reduction in clouds was likely due to the PDO going positive in 2014.

If one were to correct the temperature data for the warming caused by solar energy we would likely have a 20 year cooling trend. Sounds like a job for Super Willis.

Reply to  michel
November 15, 2021 4:14 am

The UK has taken over from Germany as the crash test dummies. France seem like it is going to bail and go back to Nuke power stations because regardless of the cost and delays at least it works.

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Reply to  LdB
November 15, 2021 8:24 am

Yes wasn’t this what that classic poem “IF” was about?

“If you can keep your cool while all about you are losing theirs . . . “

Smart Rock
Reply to  michel
November 15, 2021 5:22 am

As indeed is rational discussion of the science of sex and gender and many other things, but that is another subject

I disagree. Trans activism, micro-aggression and “we are all racist” themes are just different fronts in the same war against the industrialised nations and the “liberal-democratic” tradition. While the climate movement seeks to undermine wealth, prosperity and material well-being, these relatively late arrivals are designed to erase our sense of shared history, the knowledge of who we are, what we are, our collective and individual senses of self-worth, and what our place in the world is.

It’s all part of the softening-up process. This “war against the west” is being fought without guns and bombs, but with ideas. And so far, the bastards are winning. Hands down.

The 18th-century Enlightenment has had a good run. I shall miss it.

Reply to  Smart Rock
November 17, 2021 2:51 am

Hi Smart Rock,

Trans activism, micro-aggression and “we are all racist” themes are just different fronts in the same war against the industrialised nations and the “liberal-democratic” tradition.

This is well outlined by KGB defector Yuri Bezmanov during an interveiew in 1985 and even back then he admitted with respect to the demoralisation of America
“… previously comrade Andropov and all his experts would not even dream of such a tremendous success…exposure to true information does not matter any more. A person who is demoralized is unable to assess true information, the facts tell nothing to him…”

which is why so many young people who have grown up hearing how the sky is falling becasue of reliable energy and mobility for all or most of their lives can’t understand why climastrolgist’s predicitions are hopelessly wrong or why whirlygigs and mirrors will never run a modern energy grid. Facts tell them nothing because the global warming dogma has been pumped into their ‘soft heads’ throughout their formative years.

I gather the former member of the KGB would be even more gob-smacked by the successful demoralisation of Blighty.

The interveiew is worth watching, the 15 minutes outlining the four stages of ideological subversion is here:
KGB Defector Yuri Bezmenov 1985 Interview. Explains KGB Manipulation of US Public Opinion – YouTube
the full interveiew is here:
Yuri Bezmenov (Full Interview) with G. Edward Griffin – YouTube

After Skool have made a video worth showing in high schools on the subject of mass psychosis which is obviously what we’re seeing on display at the annual COP-off, or whenever a mob of useful idiots congregate to ‘demand’ everyone agree with their demented world view:
MASS PSYCHOSIS – How an Entire Population Becomes MENTALLY ILL (
“…The masses have never thirsted after truth, they turn aside from evidence that is not to their taste, preferring to deify error, if error seduce them…”

Julian Flood
Reply to  michel
November 15, 2021 2:12 pm

Calculating from the wind turbine output this morning, if all the schemes to go electric actually happen – EVs, heat pumps, no fossil fuelled generation – then we will need 59 turbines for every one we have now. And when the wind blows most of them will stand idle.


November 14, 2021 11:42 pm

Even the Guardian admits failure, though it tries to put its best spin on it. And George Monbiot has a classic piece:

Its classic because, as well as admitting the failure, it proposes mass civil disobedience to force the authorities to adopt a climate changing, ie net zero, agenda.

And as invariably happens in all of these case, the ‘we’ who is supposed to engage in the mass civil disobedience is very different from the ‘we’ who, mathematically, need to reduce emissions.

The ‘we’ who need to reduce is everyone, including China and India. The ‘we’ who are being asked to engage in mass civil disobedience is the British.

One can only say, if this is your remedy, why not go and try it out in Tiananmen Square. Force the CCP to reduce. Don’t forget to end a postcard to let us know how it went.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  michel
November 15, 2021 12:58 am

I don’t think that inmates of CCP Re-Education Facilities are permitted such decadent things as communication with the outside world, I dare say a CCP appointed spokesperson will relay any necessary communications!!!

Bill Toland
Reply to  michel
November 15, 2021 1:06 am

I read George Monbiot’s article yesterday and it was the most delusional piece of writing that I have ever read in my life. Clearly a number of greens in Britain have completely taken leave of their senses. The British media have gone totally insane too. I am now very worried about Britain’s economic prospects unless a halt is called to the proposed green “solutions” to beneficial global warming.

Reply to  Bill Toland
November 15, 2021 2:19 am

Yes, absolutely.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Bill Toland
November 15, 2021 3:28 am

Green = gullible & naive!!!

Reply to  Bill Toland
November 15, 2021 4:16 am

It’s pretty funny .. one mans journey into the unhinged 🙂

Robert Hanson
Reply to  Bill Toland
November 15, 2021 9:32 am

Well yes, IF those “solutions” (sic) were to be implemented. But we’ve just seen in Flop 26 how they don’t get implemented. There was to be a total phase out of coal, which turned out to be a “plea” to reduce the use of coal, to which India said no way, and we all know that China, whatever it may say, is going to increase the use of coal.

I’m betting the same thing happens in the UK itself. The government will call for replacing all ICE cars with EV ones, but what happens when no one buys EVs? Is the government going to impound all of the ICEs, and give out free EVs? The government can call for all FF heaters to be replaced with heat pumps, but who is going to pay the 10,000 pounds to do that? Not the average person, and Boris is not going to pay it out of his own pocket.

None of these pie in the sky plans is going to take place. The most that happens is that they get added to the next ‘5 year plan’, then moved to the next 5 year plan, then….

We’ve had 2 years to save the planet for 30 years now, and yet nothing has been done, other than building a few unreliable power plants, which work sometimes, and then when they don’t FF plants take up the slack. That’s all that’s going to happen, because that’s all that realistically can happen.

Bill Toland
Reply to  Robert Hanson
November 15, 2021 10:08 am

I hope that you’re right about the green promises in Britain getting watered down to the point where nothing much actually happens. The problem is that the amount of climate change propaganda in the British media is now so all pervasive that I now not so sure what will actually happen. I think that a massive power blackout might now be necessary to wake people up to the disastrous effect of green policies.

Reply to  michel
November 15, 2021 8:33 am

Yes Monbiot made the same point I posted here recently –

when leftists can’t present a cogent proposition that people will adopt because of its appealing benefits, they always then resort to getting their way through regulation and force.

Reply to  michel
November 15, 2021 8:56 pm

Why would India need to reduce any emission? Per capita emission is one-tenth of the Europe. Let Europe reduce its per capita emission to Indian level first.

November 14, 2021 11:49 pm

The climate scammers should actually breathe a sigh of relief that emissions are not halved by 2030. The reason is the MLO pCO2 record would still keep marching upwards disproving the scam’s claim of a strong linkage between CO2 emissions and CO2 annual rise rate.

Anders Valland
November 14, 2021 11:52 pm

The idea behind the 100 billion USD from Copenhagen in 2009 was founded on the rich countries providing a fund that the poor countries could use to buy technology from the rich countries.

When the poor countries said they would rather spend the money at home, only a few gullible countries such as my own Norway still felt the urge to provide the money. According to our local worriers we are responsible for some unnamed damage somewhere, but for some reason we are not accountable for the massive increase in health and prosperity that came from Norwegian oil & gas.

Oh well….

Reply to  Anders Valland
November 17, 2021 2:22 am

Hei Anders, bra sagt!
I notice the Norwegian press are at pains to point out how Norway continues to produce the oil and gas that Europe still buys, while talking up the low emissions at home as an example of climate leadership while at the recent COP-off in Glesga. I note their tone is critical, I assume aimed at the green voters of Oslo who apparently don’t know which side their bread is buttered on while sipping their morning kaffe.
I’d be interested to know if any of the green voters, or the miljø centred parties of Oslo figure where NAV or HelseNorge would fund their generous budgets if not by oil production share and taxes; I’m fairly sure Tesla’s corporate tax payments in Norway won’t quite cover it.

November 15, 2021 12:07 am

Where’s the proposal to promptly phase out EU importation of oil from the middle east, given they feel so strongly about saving the world, and being virtuous examples of putting your economy where your mouth is? Why pick on coal? Why not oil and gas? Now that interfering with coal utilization is out of the question from here?

COPE 27’s proxy messiahs could propose an ambitious end to the importation of crude oil and its products throughout the EU by 2030.

See how that goes.

November 15, 2021 12:08 am

Heavy snowfall in French Alps last week, France announced two more nuclear power stations while Germany dismantling theirs.
Comes late December or early January, Vlad Putin strolls into Doneck region. Outraged Germany has no choice but to boycott Russian gas.
‘Hat bitte jemand einen Ersatzeimer Kohle?’

Reply to  Vuk
November 15, 2021 4:18 am

Yeah France is doing an about turn and march the other way. I think they look at the UK and think not going there to become dependent totally on other countries to hold up your grid.

November 15, 2021 12:09 am

We all expected so much more from the non-binding, unratified, unenforceable “agreements” emerging from these self-congratulatory parties thrown by our leftist elites. I really thought they were going to fix the world this time with their platitudes. Gosh darn it all anyway.

Reply to  stinkerp
November 15, 2021 6:02 am

Don’t take if to heart. The COP plan, global warming, climate change, and all the other climate buzzwords were never based on science. The all were based on lucrative political policies to control money and power.

Chris Hanley
November 15, 2021 12:10 am

According to the science, emissions would need to be cut in half in this decade to hit 1.5C …

Maybe according to ‘the science’ but not according to empirical science as no definitive level of human attribution has been established and no number for transient climate sensitivity has been precisely defined.

Reply to  Chris Hanley
November 15, 2021 4:19 am

You under estimate their ability to adjust and redefine 🙂

November 15, 2021 12:11 am

“Keep temperatures within 1.5°C of pre-industrial times” – not too hard, it was about 10°C warmer about 55Myrs ago. Heck, it may have been as much as 3-4 higher just 8Kyrs ago, so not really a hard target.

Matthew Sykes
November 15, 2021 12:12 am

You know why they are so desperate, why there has been so much hype in the last few years? We are coming up to a period of cooling, and they want to have cut CO2 so they can claim credit.

If we dont cut CO2 and get cooling, their theory, and their globalist movement, is junk.

Rod Evans
Reply to  Matthew Sykes
November 15, 2021 2:12 am

Exactly. They know their time to claim credit for natural climate change is fast disappearing.

Reply to  Rod Evans
November 15, 2021 3:53 am

You have no idea how many careers and jobs and profitable greenwash companies and charities are at risk if climate change turns into a damp squib.

Reply to  Leo Smith
November 15, 2021 3:05 pm

and may they all rot in bankrupt purgatory when it happens.

Peter Wells
Reply to  Matthew Sykes
November 15, 2021 4:55 am

So more people will be freezing to death, and they will claim credit for that? I love it!

Mike Lowe
Reply to  Matthew Sykes
November 15, 2021 6:31 am

So thank a coal-burning power plant!

Climate believer
November 15, 2021 12:45 am

What a waste of money, time and resources this whole charade really is. They’ve been at this since 1995, and all this hot air and gobbledygook has had ZERO effect on “the climate™”.

Summer follows spring, as winter follows autumn. Sometimes it’s a bit wetter than average, sometimes it’s a bit drier, and quite frankly if winters in the northern hemisphere are less frigid than they were in the 19th century, I’m not complaining.

“Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it.”
– Laurence J.Peter, The Peter Principle.

Right-Handed Shark
November 15, 2021 12:55 am

Failure? No, this was a resounding success! It means we can do it all again next year (but please, nowhere more than 30º from the equator) and another year on the gravy train! Another year of project fear, and rewards for zero effort. Excuse me while I practise my sad face and crocodile tears for Sharm-el-sheik 2022.

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Reply to  Right-Handed Shark
November 15, 2021 8:31 am

The weather in Egypt in November is usually gorgeous so delegates should be able to combine a visit to the Pyramids or a Nile cruise with their activism.

November 15, 2021 1:02 am

The amount of new coal planned and being commissioned was already falling pre COP26, outside of China and a few other states.

As of July 2021, China and the countries with the next five biggest pre-construction coal plant pipelines (India, Viet Nam, Indonesia, Turkey, and Bangladesh) account for over four-fifths of the world’s remaining planned coal plant. apart from India the others committed to a further reduction and to phase out of coal.

Action by these six countries could remove 82 percent of the pre-construction pipeline. And 4 of them are now moving on that. The remaining pre-construction pipeline is spread across a further 31 countries, 16 of which have just one project. And some of those are Chinese funded projects… and China is supposedly not funding overseas coal.

Last year, outside China, less than 12 GW of coal plant was commissioned and, taking into account closures, the global coal fleet outside China declined by 17.2 GW in 2020. Outside China, there was a marked slowdown in 2020 commissioning. India, notably, grew its coal fleet by only net 0.7 GW in 2020, after adding an average 15.0 GW a year from 2010 to 2019. There had been cancellations of future coal power across the globe pre COP: Bangladesh, Japan, S Korea and Vietnam in particular.

Coal is on the way out now, for certain, even in India.

and China? who knows.

Bill Toland
Reply to  griff
November 15, 2021 1:18 am

Griff, you should apply for a job in the Guardian. You would fit right in with the likes of George Monbiot. I am assuming that you are not actually George.

Reply to  Bill Toland
November 15, 2021 2:10 am

He is a columnist there, writes under well known name Mon’idiot.
(something gone wrong with the spellchecker)

Reply to  Vuk
November 15, 2021 4:59 am

Mondbiot as in man on the moon, lunatic. See :

The Baron Munchausen meets the King of the Moon (4min) :

Unhinged as someone below remarked!

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Reply to  bonbon
November 15, 2021 5:29 am

Mon’idiot is just fine, otherwise blame spell check.

Reply to  griff
November 15, 2021 1:38 am

You sound a bit desperate, and it’s phase down not phase out. Coal is here to stay for as long as developing countries need it.

Reply to  Lrp
November 15, 2021 7:02 am

If griff has his way, all countries will need to become developing countries soon.

Climate believer
Reply to  griff
November 15, 2021 2:03 am

You’re such a useful idiot to these lying repressive authoritarian regimes….

China built the equivalent of more than one large coal plant every week in 2020.

China built more than three times as much new coal-fired power capacity in 2020 as all other countries in the world combined.

China has 247 GW of coal power projects under development – a 21 percent increase from 2019 and nearly six times Germany’s entire coal-fired capacity.

….and China? who knows. Not you obviously.

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Reply to  Climate believer
November 15, 2021 2:42 am

VW ran two coal powered stations for their own use, now converted to gas they are now reliant on the Russians. Why would the west put themselves at the mercy of Chinese Coal for manufacturing and Russian gas I do not know. Of course there is now a renewed push for nuclear so someone has woken up.

Reply to  richard
November 15, 2021 5:09 am

And VW along with BMW, Audi sent its HPC compute-centers to Norway (hydro) and Iceland (geotherm). Right now VW is making profits only in China. If the greens take over kiss Auto AG goodbye.

Reply to  griff
November 15, 2021 2:39 am

CRAP 26 failed – guess why, coal is not going away.

Reply to  griff
November 15, 2021 2:52 am

I love coal.

Reply to  Derg
November 15, 2021 4:00 am

I don’t love coal. This is what coal meant to Britain at the end…
All very well if you scrape it up with diggers, but 2miles down and 5 miles out under the sea is a bad place to be if anything goes wrong.

I went down a coal mine once.

I wouldnt work down there for less than a £100k a year, and I have sympathy for miners who didnt want to. But the answer wasnt more money, it was shut the mines down and switch to gas.

And burning it produced more radioactive waste than a nuclear power station.

Uk Deep mine.jpg
Reply to  Leo Smith
November 15, 2021 10:56 am

Technology has changed

Reply to  Derg
November 15, 2021 7:03 am

Too crunchy for my taste.

Reply to  griff
November 15, 2021 4:00 am

Sure Griff 🙂

Yet Australia is committed to selling coal for decades to come and we have been very clear on it

Whatever market there is we will supply as there is no good reason not to sell into it.

Reply to  LdB
November 15, 2021 5:13 am

Australia has a bad habit of annoying customers – China over COVID and France over nukes.
See former Labor PM Paul Keating this week :
Australia will pay a price for its shambolic foreign policy

Pithy statements like describing Britain, compared to China, as “an old theme park collapsing into the Atlantic.”

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Reply to  bonbon
November 15, 2021 8:46 am

Australia couldn’t give a toss about France if they didn’t have Nukes.
Here are the tiny trade figures and 3 to 1 in France favour and $3B in total

China is a very different story because they are our largest trade partner and we have a massive trade surplus to them.

Old Cocky
Reply to  bonbon
November 15, 2021 12:54 pm

Keating has always had a strong appreciation of his own wit and wisdom.

Reply to  griff
November 15, 2021 6:10 am

In case you didn’t read carefully, Griff, India got a pass this year for any coal power reductions until the nest COP. Then India might just withdraw from the COP process.

George Daddis
Reply to  griff
November 15, 2021 6:17 am

“..outside of China and a few other states, ..”
“Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?”

Reply to  griff
November 15, 2021 7:01 am

Outside of China and India, use of coal is falling.
However, when you include China and India, use of coal is exploding.
I love how griff tries to throw out the two largest (by far) users of coal in order to make his irrelevant point.

Secondly, I just love how he believes that government mandates prove that his idiotic theories are correct.

Reply to  MarkW
November 15, 2021 4:55 pm

That could be a good argument for getting us out of the Paris Agreement again. All griff would need to do is amend the phrase to: “Outside of China, India and the United States, use of coal is falling.” (lol)

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Reply to  griff
November 15, 2021 8:47 am

How is it today in Great Missenden? For the majority on this site, the character Griff resides in ”2019 the village post town and postcode of HP16, which encompasses Little Kingshill, was revealed to be the most affluent place in England”.
Here resides Roald Dahl of ‘fairye story’ fame. I see you are trying to compete Griff.

Reply to  griff
November 15, 2021 10:00 am

griffter, you’ve been schooled on this before. Coal production, worldwide, dropped slightly in 2016 but is projected to rise again. Coal is NOT on the way out now, for certain, you despicable liar.

November 15, 2021 1:26 am

Paul Homewood – You are speaking as if this Draft Agreement was addressed to a thinking audience. If it were, one would have to be concerned with such matters as accuracy, validity, logic and the prestige of science. But it isn’t. It is addressed to the public.

(To paraphrase Ayn Rand “Atlas Shrugged”)

Jeroen B.
November 15, 2021 1:28 am

In one thing they were right: It is the decisive decade.
In which this entire “green” edifice will finally come crumbling down under the weight of hard, stark reality. I just hope the worst ofthe damage can be averted.

Gregory Woods
Reply to  Jeroen B.
November 15, 2021 3:27 am

I hope so, too, but am not optimistic…

Reply to  Jeroen B.
November 17, 2021 12:49 pm

I suspect that the weight of hard, stark reality that finally brings the hot-air affect circus crashing down will be the exhaustion of other people’s money that the rock show and it’s green tech monuments depend upon for sustinence.

That exhaustion will come about due to a second great depression which has been looming for as long as the idea that debt is an asset was taken seriously and the public ‘demanded’ copious spending on vacuuous horse shit of various flavours. I wonder if the knee jerk house arrest response to Wuhan flu wasn’t set up as an ideal scapegoat, e.g.”…sorry folks we’re in a depression, we can blame covid for that…” as if pissing up a few trillion each year for the last three decades paying for junk science climastrology and life support for whirly gigs and mirrors had nothing to do with it.

In any case, when entire nations are unemployed and starving, endulgent luxuries like fashionable political causes fall out of fashion faster than an Airbus missing a wing falls from the sky. So contrary to the useful idiot’s wet dreams about coal being on the way out, reliable coal based energy will predictably see an urgent resurgence, while unreliable energy virtue signalling, plus a whole raft of other wasteful inessentials will suddenly find themselves left to whither on the vine sans-subsidies.

The worst of the damage though will come from the ‘big war’ that usually follows a big fiscal crash; no doubt the big club will make a tidy profit out of all stages of the hard, stark reality that’s in the post and when the dust settles, China and then India will emerge as the world policeman.

November 15, 2021 1:53 am

Listening to UN Climate Finance advisor, ex Bank of England chief, Marc Carney :
He does not mince words with urging, calling, inviting – rather ruthless, relentless focus.
Seems it really it does not matter a whit what COP26 signed, global finance is going ahead anyway.
That GFANZ green finance alliance is already choking off all credit for projects that do not pass the gangrene test. Will BlackRock play along is the question. No Asian banks are so far affected.

Reply to  bonbon
November 15, 2021 2:35 am

I read that as pension funds etc are pulling their money out of fossil fueled companies the hedge funds are stepping in and making a killing.

Reply to  richard
November 15, 2021 4:03 am

Well I certainly am.

No, what is happening is a big noise about ‘ethical investment’ to sell crap investments to gullible idiots whilst the smart money is moiving into fossil energy and nuclear.

As I said before, whatever the public is being sold, buy the opposite.

Reply to  bonbon
November 15, 2021 4:04 am

All that will happen is private equity firms will fill the void because there is good money to be made.

There is billions flooding into the space because the returns are massive.

Bob Hunter
Reply to  bonbon
November 15, 2021 1:55 pm

Carney was Canada’s Bank Governor leaving for England. Carney knows full well Canada’s fossil fuel industry has subsidized programs across the country for decades. No other industry is remotely close to the economic impact fossil fuels have made to Canada’s standard of living.

November 15, 2021 2:27 am

China supplies the world with heavy industrial items reliant on Coal.The west is now beholden to China and India and Europe now is in the hands of Russian gas. “Oct 28, 2021China is expanding mines to produce 220 million metric tons a year of extra , a nearly 6 percent rise from last year. China already digs up and burns more than the rest of the world combined – “The Guaranteed power of wind + Sun = 0.The guaranteed output of wind energy and photovoltaics is between zero, two or three percent. So de-facto is zero.” – Harald Schwarz, professor of power distribution at the University of Cottbus,

Coal is going to around for a very long time. Without China using coal to manufacture magnesium etc the west would come to a halt.

Reply to  richard
November 15, 2021 4:06 am

Coal has a few decades to run. China is draining world reserves, and is putting in nukes as fast as they can. Same for India. I don’t consider that a ‘very long time’.

There is a massive market for mass produced ‘plug and play’ reactors worldwide.

Reply to  Leo Smith
November 15, 2021 7:05 am

Coal has closer to 1000 years to run.

November 15, 2021 2:31 am

I don’t think the citizens of Glasgow were at all impressed with the climate hypocrites.

Reply to  Mike Haseler (aka Scottish Sceptic)
November 15, 2021 4:07 am

I don’t think the citizens of Glasgow even noticed. Mostly they are either drunk or smashed on smack and crack.

Peta of Newark
November 15, 2021 2:35 am

Thus therefore and henceforth:
How do we give these folks a way out of the ‘mess’ they’ve created for themselves. How do we bring them back down to Earth nicely. without showing them to be as foolish and misguided as they (presently) are

We’re dealing ‘pride’ ‘dignity’ and self-esteem – they *have* to be given something to occupy the void there’ll be in all their personal as well as professional lives.

Otherwise, they won’t let go – it will trail on nearly interminably

You know me – you know what that is:
Fix The World’s Soil. Repair/reclaim the deserts

It will win win win win win win win for everybody
……….and not even a very expensive thing to actually do.
Ma Nature and the much loved Natural Variation will do 97% of the work.
No kidding this time.

and and and and, their own organisation, the UN, has already (2015) acknowledged the problem i.e. We are going to run out of dirt by 2075

Reply to  Peta of Newark
November 15, 2021 7:42 am

Peta: “We’re dealing ‘pride’ ‘dignity’ and self-esteem – they *have* to be given something to occupy the void there’ll be in all their personal as well as professional lives.”

Is it too much just to ask them all to mind their own knitting going forward?

If it comes to them finding something useful to do or starve well, let’s just let Darwin sort them all out.

I’m having difficulty generating a lot of sympathy for people who have been trying to kill me indirectly by cutting my access to energy and ordering me about, all while sitting in the middle of the street wailing at the sky.

Reply to  Peta of Newark
November 15, 2021 10:18 am

Peta Thunberg, Now you’re on to “peak dirt” theory? Guess what? The world’s deserts are already shrinking. Its got nothing to do with the soil, it’s from CO2 enhanced greening. Yet somehow you believe that dirt, productive for hundreds of millions of years with almost all nutrients getting recycled, is all of a sudden going to go away? There’s only an issue with the relatively small amount of farmed land being plowed, But you know what? There are already soil conservation efforts to address the land devoted to agriculture. You know that don’t you?

Your fixation on soil is disturbing. No sane politico is going to latch onto your crazy theory. Just give it up, you’re embarrassing yourself.

Richard S Courtney
November 15, 2021 2:36 am

Paul Homewood,

You observe,

The rest of the Agreement is pretty weak and ineffectual as well. It is full of terms such as “urges”, “requests” and “invites”, which mean there is no obligation on anybody to do anything.

Yes, any possibility of binding agreements on ‘climate change’ was destroyed in 2009 in Copenhagen when it was decided there would not be a successor Treaty to the Kyoto Protocol.

Since then the ‘climate scare’ has been moving like a headless chicken running around a farmyard: it gives the appearance that it is alive. and it moves as though it were alive, but it is dead and it has yet to fall over.

There is limit to the number of ‘last chances to save the world’ before most people ignore them. When they do the ‘climate scare’ will ‘fall over’.

The problem now is that the moving corpse of the ‘climate scare’ could run over something important.

I am reminded of the ‘acid rain’ scare that raged in the 1970s and 80s. Few remember it now because reality imposed on intended actions to ‘correct’ it so it faded away. But the EU had responded to the ‘acid rain’ scare by imposing the Large Combustion Plant Directive (LCPD) which imposed restrictions on emission of sulphur and nitrogen oxides (SOx and NOx) from power stations. The bureaucrats who administer the LCPD needed to justify their jobs so they persisted in tightening the emission constraints long after the ‘acid rain’ scare was forgotten. The constraints forced closure of the UK’s coal burning power stations.

The IPCC continues to operate because the dead ‘climate scare’ has yet to fade away and continues to ‘move’ as though it is still alive. The powers in the IPCC know the ‘climate scare’ is already dead and they can be expected to put in place things which benefit them into the future. For the benefit of everybody it is imperative that bureaucracies created by the scare are destroyed before they are made permanent.


Forrest Gardener
November 15, 2021 2:44 am

It is as though the reality of getting pigs to fly is just dawning. It’s easy to get one leg off the ground. Two isn’t that hard. Three is tricky. But getting that fourth leg off the ground is where the problems really begin.

Yeah sure the whole world is going to commit economic suicide simultaneously. The only thing that will be done simultaneously is saying you first.

November 15, 2021 3:25 am

China played the west like fools into a lockdown and bankrupting businesses whilst they increased coal power stations making the goods the west needs.

M Courtney
November 15, 2021 3:30 am

The whole COP crashed because (and this is going to sound very unbelievable but I think it’s true) the organisers thought it was about catastrophic anthropogenic climate change.

This is ridiculous. If it were about catastrophic anthropogenic climate change we would be engaging in war not negotiations. If AGW were the end of the world in x years then we would need to take all action to stop it.

As a thought experiment, consider Russia. Catastrophic anthropogenic climate change doesn’t harm all equally. Russia gets Siberian tundra turned into wheat and paddy fields, all year round blue sea ports, an pen NW passage and less severe winters in Moscow and St Petersburg. To get this they need to keep growing their main export industry. Try to imagine what compensation we need to give to Putin to get him to surrender that? Yet if he doesn’t surrender that – and we believe in catastrophic anthropogenic climate change – it’s all over. So we would be at war.

Thankfully we are not at war. Because most attendees knew full well COPs are not about the climate. They are about jockeying for position and gaining or losing face.

The rich West wants to delay competition from the developing world and is using it’s colonial proxies (the island states of the Commonwealth) as moral leverage. The Developing countries want to eat and grow rich. And COPs are about balancing these competing desires. It’s the chats about how the West accommodates the rise of the East that matter.
It has nothing to do with the climate.

But the Conservative Government organisers listened to the BBC hype (they are all media men themselves) and missed what it was actually all about.

In the end USA and China did their business outside of Glasgow and announced it during the UK PM’s press conference just to show that the UK got it all wrong.

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Reply to  M Courtney
November 15, 2021 4:08 am

Correct there are winners and losers in any change and the trick is to have resilience at which unreliables are the worst at.

Reply to  M Courtney
November 15, 2021 7:08 am

In Europe, conservative means not communist.

Richard S Courtney
Reply to  M Courtney
November 15, 2021 8:50 am

M Courtney,

You observe that reactions of politicians to the ‘climate crisis’ do not suggest they believe the ‘climate crisis’ is a real and imminent threat.

I agree with your observation, and I point out that the responses of politicians to the Covid-19 pandemic demonstrate how they react to something they do believe to be a real and immediate threat. No significant politicians have reacted in anything like those responses as a reaction to the asserted ‘climate crisis’.

Politicians are opportunists. They do not need to believe in a scare for them to make use of it. And the purported ‘climate crisis’ can be used as an excuse for almost any political actions or inactions.

A coincidence of interests is more powerful than any conspiracy.
People climb onto – and stay on – a bandwagon when it is travelling in a direction they can use to benefit themselves. Indeed, that is why bandwagons ‘roll’.

Ricard (aka Dad)

M Courtney
Reply to  Richard S Courtney
November 15, 2021 9:24 am

It’s obvious that they aren’t taking the “Climate Crisis” seriously. Comparisons with Covid are obvious. So also with the Global Financial Crisis for another example. The contrast is clear.

I an trying to answer two following questions:

Q1) So why bother with regular meetings to discuss economic growth, use of natural resourced and the trends in industrialisation at all?
A1) My answer being that the growth of Asia is so big everyone needs to talk about it before the rivalry stumbles into conflict. If so then we would expect the very poor nations to be treated as irrelevant. This seems to be the case.

Q2) Why did the current UK government take it seriously when no-one else was?
A2) My answer being that they only follow the media hype (post-modern medium is the message) and have no understanding of what is actually going on. If so then we would expect the Government to be completely incompetent at absolutely everything, making blunder after blunder and spinning around floundering in U-Turns regularly. This seems to be the case.

Reply to  M Courtney
November 15, 2021 11:14 am

And 👍👍 for your last two sentences, M Courtney.

Richard S Courtney
Reply to  H.R.
November 15, 2021 11:49 pm

M Courtney,

You say,

I an trying to answer two following questions:

Q1) So why bother with regular meetings to discuss economic growth, use of natural resourced and the trends in industrialisation at all?

A1) My answer being that the growth of Asia is so big everyone needs to talk about it before the rivalry stumbles into conflict. If so then we would expect the very poor nations to be treated as irrelevant. This seems to be the case.

I doubt there is one overarching reason for continuance of the global warming scare, and I point out that economic summits were happening before the ‘climate’ bandwagon began to roll.

Politics of all kinds (from local politics to global geopolitics) are certainly involved in the scare, but the nature of a bandwagon is that people join it for a variety of reasons. Indeed, the power of any bandwagon is that joining it has usefulness to people with several different objectives.


November 15, 2021 3:50 am

“COP26 Ends In Humiliating Failure”

One of the hallmarks of left wing thinking is the approach to changing language via a bit of wordplay, eg people with cycles, pregnant people etc which is ‘inclusive’ and avoids mentioning ‘exclusive’ words like woman, women etc.

So in the spirit of fun with words 

Cop-out, Copout –

“A failure to face some difficulty squarely “

Ergo Copout 26

Nevermind, there’s always Sharm El Sheikh

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Steve Case
November 15, 2021 3:55 am

In my view, we have seen the beginning of the end for the UN’s climate agenda.

Meanwhile the Biden “administration” and state governments studies the impact of shutting down pipelines, bans natural gas, closes coal fired power plants, constructs ever more forests of windmills and shoves climate change propaganda down the throats of the nation’s school children.

In my view, the Bolsheviks are in the final stages of their goal of world domination.

Reply to  Steve Case
November 15, 2021 7:13 am

The latest thing the Democrats are trying to slip into the next spending bill, is a subsidy of up to $25,000 to “legitimate” news organizations, for every “legitimate” reporter that they hire.

Of course “legitimate” will always be defined by the government.

Reply to  MarkW
November 15, 2021 9:01 am

Trudeau has already done this in Canada.

He’s now got an established press corps that is the best that money can buy.

However the readers’ comments in most msm articles demonstrate the disagreement with the government line as presented by approved journalists.

Next move by the government will no doubt be to outlaw readers’ comments on ‘approved’ articles.

Reply to  Mr.
November 15, 2021 11:22 am

After that fails, the government will outlaw readers.

(Think that sounds stupid? We’re talking about government here. Watch this space.)

Robert Hanson
Reply to  Steve Case
November 15, 2021 9:59 am

More likely the ‘Battle of the Bulge’.

Anyone thinking that has something to do with a diet program needs to consult DuckDuckGo,,,,,

November 15, 2021 3:57 am

These are people claiming to represent “democratic” Nations from around the planet. However there is absolutely nothing democratic about what they are proposing for their home populations. None of these “important” people are planning to actually ask those they claim to represent what they think abut these ridiculous, totally unfounded(and currently unfunded)solutions for this wholly imaginary “problem”.

November 15, 2021 4:53 am

Well…it’s looking like getting to a 1.5° C i crease is going to take a century at the current rate. And it is nearly certain that 50-100% of the rising temperatures were naturally occurring (from declining “liquid” cloud cover). The trend started way back around 1600-1700 and Tidal Guages indicate that at least the last 150 years had very steady increases (BACK towards normal temperatures) from the Deep Freeze of the Little Ice Age.

The Climate Crisis was made up and promoted by powerful Billionaire Families and their International Foundations as an excuse to DEMAND International Emergency Measures to “FIX” the fake problem. This naturally would evolve into putting THEM in charge of a Global Socialist Utopia…with Top-Down (from the Elites) solutions to all the world’s problems.

All that’s required of the proletariat is to give up their individual freedoms and “do their part”, quit being selfish to help save humanity….Oh, and fork over $120 Trillion by 2050 to help things along.

Europeans seem to be sucking it up by suffering economy killing and household-budget killing energy costs.

The Americans are not going to be so easy to convince. After being lied to constantly during the man made Pandemic, Trust in Authority is pretty much gone.

Now, we just need some fair elections in 2022.

I fear that election fraud will get worse….because the Democrats are at a historic ROCK BOTTOM in the polls. And what’s their response to that??? Double Down and FORCE everyone to get Vaxed or lose their jobs! They would never pull such a wildly Illegal and wildly unpopular stunt if they were worried about elections robbing them of their ill gotten power. Some kind of election “fix” has to be already in their Globalist plans…either that or the Democrats are the stupidest Party in History politically and may lose to Super-Majorities in Congress…after which retribution Impeachments would give Republicans back the White House for the Hat Trick.

300% increases on Energy Costs will help that scenario along mightily.

Dave Fair
Reply to  DocSiders
November 15, 2021 9:20 am

“Its the economy, stupid.”

Ian Coleman
November 15, 2021 5:00 am

So that Swedish kid (Gerda something?) was right about this Glasgow thing being a failure?

November 15, 2021 5:02 am

While the decision document was a fiasco, the numerous COP24 announcements are a big green success. IEA says that together they reduce warming to just 1.8 degrees, which meets the Paris target of between 2 and 1.5 degrees. The gap is gone!

The alarmists ignore this success because there is still big money to be made.

See my

November 15, 2021 6:01 am

India along with a host of like minded countries knew that they could not run their economies without coal and other fossil fuels, never mind grow them and relieve poverty. Faced with the whole Agreement being lost, Alok Sharma and the UN organisers backed down, and replaced the words “phase-out” with “phase-down”. Just one word changed, but its effect was devastating for the Agreement. – article

Good. Someone told those bozos to their faces to ‘piss off’. I would very much like to see more of that, especially here at home, but until our farting pResident starts providing his own supply of natgas (and he has plenty of it, as we now know) to the general supply, we’ll have to make do with ‘Oh, well, maybe next time.” We can dream, can’t we?

I keep hoping that some day, the media mavens who promote the CAGW nonsense will find out that they’ve been sucker-punched for years, but they’ll have to find it out the hard way or it won’t work. That means that they show up on the doorstep looking for food because the store shelves are empty (again) and they didn’t stock ahead like the rest of us do.

The planet is fine. The (CAGWer) people are f—ed. – The Late Great George Carlin

Mumbles McGuirck
November 15, 2021 6:10 am

“And all COP26 has really agreed on is to meet up again next year and discuss things again.”

Which was the whole point of the Conference. Just keep the gravy train a’chugging. World governments keep shoveling billions of dollars into ‘climate studies’ which generate panic to justify another COP and so on and so on.

The press corps dutifully cranks out scare stories, which NGOs exaggerate to generate contributions, which results in more scare stories. One year from now they’ll start the whole kabuki dance again.

Bruce Cobb
November 15, 2021 6:45 am

Along with all of their third-person singular verbs (reaffirms, welcomes, recognizes, etc.), I suggest a couple more: waffles, and prevaricates.

Al Miller
November 15, 2021 7:03 am

But this was the last chance!!??
Oh well – might as well cancel the party next year.

November 15, 2021 7:10 am

Off to a much better holiday destination next year, Egypt. Will people finally recognise the Green Climate Fund as a Pyramid scheme?

November 15, 2021 7:58 am

“And all COP26 has really agreed on is to meet up again next year and discuss things again”

Well, of course, got to get their paid and paid-for vacation lined up, right?

November 15, 2021 8:14 am

You would think by now the AGW/UN/COP cabal would figure out the world isn’t convinced of their scam or all nations would be more compliant to their demands. The whole UN operational mode has failed. Bullying, threats, ostracizing, and shaming haven’t succeeded. Nations have figured out even if AGW were true they want to be the last one to commit economic suicide, lose a century of development, and take advantage of the void left while others comply.

November 15, 2021 9:02 am

Perhaps ‘climate reparations’ for the Maldives should be proportional to the land above water.

That’d be a nice little earner coming back to the west.

Pat from kerbob
Reply to  Raven
November 15, 2021 9:34 pm

They just need to finance more tourist hotels and finish the new airport.
Hard to blame them if idiots are willing to give them billions.

I suppose the hotels are vertical sea rise safety retreats and the new airport is for evacuation.
Yes, that’s it.
It’s all about the sales pitch

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Tom Abbott
November 15, 2021 9:37 am

I believe 2016, the hottest year in the 21st century, was said to be 1.0C warmer than the average from the beginning of the industrial era.

We have a test of the “CO2/increased temperature” hypothesis here.

The alarmists claim if we don’t reduce CO2 output by 45 percent by the year 2030, then the world will hit or exceed the 1.5C target.

It appears that there will be no 45 percent CO2 reduction, so we will just wait until the year 2030 and see if the temperatures have exceeded 2016’s temperatues by 0.5C.

November 15, 2021 12:17 pm

Gotta love the precision of climate “science”:

  • emissions are projected to be 13.7% above 2010 levels by 2030.
  • limiting warming to 1.5C (ie 0.5C above current temperatures) requires a 45% reduction in “emissions”. And 0.5 C will still be catastrophic, but not as bad as 1.0C increase.
November 15, 2021 1:35 pm

Without securing real commitments from China, Russia and India, they were consigned to failure from the outset.

Last edited 10 months ago by Neo
November 15, 2021 1:43 pm

Like the promise of ‘real’ Communism, this stuff has a 100% record of fail

michael hart
November 15, 2021 3:10 pm

“And there will be annual warnings from Prince Charles that we have 12 more months to save the planet.”

At some point it may become annual warnings from King Charles, but many people still hope that his mother may outlive him. But if he does get to inherit the top job, it may be interesting to see how much he is told to shut up by the government.

Jon R
November 15, 2021 4:02 pm

The incompentence of the perinially mentally regressed is our only hope.

Eamon Butler
November 15, 2021 4:55 pm

But, this was our very last, ultimate final chance…

Rich Davis
Reply to  Eamon Butler
November 15, 2021 5:08 pm

Penultimate final at the very least

Rich Davis
November 15, 2021 5:06 pm

Well I’ve really hit the buffers trying to understand what kicking it into touch means. We are well and truly separated by a common language.

Pat from kerbob
Reply to  Rich Davis
November 15, 2021 9:32 pm

Football/soccer term.
Kick the ball out of play to stop play

For coal, agree to not discuss anymore

Rich Davis
Reply to  Pat from kerbob
November 16, 2021 2:47 am


William Haas
November 15, 2021 5:32 pm

The reality is that the climate sensitivity of CO2 is zero. Hince any reduction in CO2 emissions will have no effect on climate.

Jon R
Reply to  William Haas
November 16, 2021 12:41 pm

Until Science has more to say than Scienceism.

Bottom line there is no predicting outside parameters, many possible things we could get super duper hyped up about.

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willem post
November 16, 2021 6:37 am



China, India, etc., to Continue High Levels of Coal Burning
Each year, China burns about 4 BILLION metric ton of coal, more than the rest of the world combined. China is planning to build 43 new coal-fired power plants and 18 new blast furnaces. Do you really believe that China can afford to stop burning coal? Do you think they want to? Of course not. 

Chinese reliance on coal is increasing, and it is expanding its mines to produce an additional 220 million Mt of coal in 2021, up almost six percent from 2020.

The Chinese and the Indians are not going to throw away their economic progress on the altar of global warming. The Indians made it perfectly clear at the beginning of the Glasgow COP26, the developed nations should de-industrialize first, before asking developing countries to follow suit.

India: India declared it would not sign the statement of COP26 goals regarding coal burning. Instead of reading “close down coal by 2030”, India insisted on “phase down unabated coal”. Unabated refers to the common practice of Indian households, etc., cooking over open fires with coal, a major source of local air pollution. It would be phased down (no time limit was stated).

All this means, the burning of coal in power plants, with air pollution abatement systems, would be unaffected (no time limit was stated). The major coal burning countries, such as China, India, Australia, Brazil, the US, etc., would continue to burn coal in power plants.

China: Despite various RE boosters, such as financial adviser Bloomberg, bragging about China’s wind and solar efforts, the reality is, almost 80% of China’s electricity growth is from fossil fuels, almost entirely coal.

Because China is so big, that fossil growth is worsening its own air pollution, plus the air pollution around the world; the soot falls on snow/ice-covered areas; melting of snow/ice is much quicker.

In one year, China added 460.2 TWh of fossil electricity, which is 3.9 times the annual electricity supply of NE, or 76.7 times the annual electricity supply of Vermont.

From third qtr. 2020, to third qtr. 2021:
Total electricity production growth was 586.9 TWh, up 10.7%, of which 460.2 TWh, or 78.4%, was from fossil fuels, mostly coal.
Wind growth was 89 TWh, up 28.4%, from a low base
Solar growth was 12.6 TWh, up 10.2%, from a low base.
Nuclear growth was 33.2 TWh, up 12.3%, from a low base
China plans to build 200,000 MW of near-zero-CO2 nuclear plants; about 150 units, each 2,350 MW, at about 75 sites, at a cost of $440 billion, by 2035

Amortizing the capital cost at 3.5%/y over 60 years would be ($17,556,485,920/y) / (200,000 MW x 8,766 h/y x 0.90, CF) = $0.01113/kWh, about one third the cost of EU and US nuclear plants.

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