Guest “Is the headline really hyperbole?” by David Middleton
‘Black Trees Matter’ — VP Kamala Harris Asks NASA if It Can Track Trees by Race for ‘Environmental Justice’
JOSHUA KLEIN 7 Nov 2021
Vice President Kamala Harris asked NASA if it could use its satellites to track trees “by race” in various neighborhoods as part of “environmental justice” during a recent display on climate change, leading many to ridicule the vice president online and even giving rise to a “Black Trees Matter” hashtag.
In a clip originally shared by Deputy Director of Rapid Response at Republican National Committee (RNC) Jake Schneider, Harris is seen interrupting a presentation in order to share her “woke” inquiry.
“Can you measure trees — part of that data that you are referring to, [and it’s an issue of] EJ, environmental justice — that you can also track by race their averages in terms of the number of trees in the neighborhoods where people live?”
“I thought this was a Babylon Bee headline, turns out it’s our totally serious Vice President,” wrote Republican congressional candidate Leon Benjamin.
“Glad she has her priorities straight,” he added.
I thought this was a Babylon Bee headline, turns out it's our totally serious Vice President.— Leon Benjamin (@Leon4Congress) November 6, 2021
Glad she has her priorities straight. https://t.co/XcC9Ad4tmD
Well, I suppose the number of trees would stand as a proxy for environmental quality.
However, it would be pretty obvious from a visit anyway and there could be other features that offset any lack of trees so it doesn’t necessarily help.
To ask the question at all does seem to demonstrate an unhealthy obsession with racial identity.
Harris is well known for not being able to form a coherent statement.
I thought she was trying ask if NASA could measure the number of trees in a given neighborhood, then determine if there was a racial pattern in this number.
If black people choose not to plant trees in their own yards, is this really evidence of racism?
She eats and drinks no for breakfast, whatever that means.
I think it’s noo, ricebubbles soaked in gin.
#Let’s Go Kamy
NO? Nitric Oxide?
Trees in Ethnic Neighborhoods must breathe in CO2 with a Capital “C”
Like Franks Place…the “Capital C Club”
But only, you notice, in neighborhoods “where people live”.
Kamala Harris should be more concerned with how few grocery stores are in black neighborhoods.
No, that might lead to someone questioning why so few.
Not that it matters; they’d just spin and lie about the reasons, anyway.
Yes, those communities need more locations to steal groceries.
They’ve been blaming the lack of shopping in minority communities on white racism for decades.
Maybe they’ll show her a satellite photo of Hispaniola (Haiti and the Dominican Republic) to augment her race argument.
Can’t recall the details but wasn’t there a case where a city council (think it was Manchester or Birmingham UK) wanted to cut down all the large trees in the area sitting some econonsensical reason? That would blow her idea if the trees were all gone.
So we have to develop a definition of racial neighborhood , apply that to the census to plot the various locations and count trees to compare them for equality. That could keep someone busy full time forever. We need a new cabinet position to direct it.
If you recall, the 2020 Census did ask for racial information. That could be referenced versus address to map out the density of various races down to a neighborhood level. There might be some legitimate uses for such sociological purposes. But it also has the potential of being exploited for political ends.
This year, we were “randomly” selected to “participate” in the American Community Survey…
We “answered” all of the questions in a manner we deemed “good enough for government work”.
Ehhh, not so much. As I recall, the smallest area you can get statistical information from the Census Bureau is 50,000 people. Anything finer, and they feel there is a chance you can tie individuals to some responses and they want to avoid that. You’ll have to wait 72 years to get the information for individual families.
The Census Bureau has Demographic micro data available at block level. This is not publicly available. I used to get this on 9-track tapes, but it’s been a while…
That data already exists. It’s what Democrats use to gerrymander voting districts.
To be fair, I believe she was asking if tree densities could be mapped versus the racial profiles of neighborhoods, not mapping trees by their race. She’s dumb, but not THAT dumb.
Well, she is pretty dumb for thinking there are a lot of trees in urban areas. The governments in Democrat Marxist cesspools can’t provide good schools or proper policing, yet decide that trees are a top priority. Figures, because the more government focuses resources on woke priorities, the worse it performs in those areas it’s SUPPOSED to run…like schools, police, garbage removal, street maintenance.
This has nothing to do with fairness.
This is deliberate race hustling from her side to push the race narrative and add new bullshit to the show (same trick as with AGW when they try to connect dying walruses to co2).
And they use “science” as Trojan horse.
Why on earth should anyone make an effort to be “fair” to her? As reward for her constant screeching search for fodder for the racial prejudice agenda? She epitomizes the old saw, “If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.”
Yes, of course, but think about what she’s asking and why it even matters. It’s a clown question no matter how you interpret it, illustrating that she is indeed THAT dumb.
I think she is clearly that dumb. Can you point to a singe thing she has done that shows her being anything, other than dumb? Let’s have another staged chat to actor children to just ram the point home, of haw dumb she isn’t…..
The reasons behind her goals are dumb, but this request is smart and evil. Overall, blacks tend to live in poor sections of cities while affluent areas, suburbs and rural areas have more white people. She already knows that the results will show less trees in black neighborhoods, and so she can use this as another argument to recruit the stupid into thinking its a problem caused by a racist society.
Unfortunately She/Her appears to be using the race “lens” at most all times. She is not completely dumb but unable to view the world without that lens. Some might consider that a sign of limited intellectual rigor.
Doesn’t matter how dumb she is, she is VERY embarrassing for the USA. As a non American I find it extraordinary in the extreme that she could overnight become the most powerful person on earth
Perhaps refreshing the Tree of Liberty will help.
Seriously, there is merit in using tree cover as a proxy for local environmental quality (and quality of life). Unfortunately for the progressive agenda the “cure” would be a lower density more exurban pattern of land development antithetical to most of their agenda.
What’s the difference between Kamala and Michelle?
Kamala h(e)ad Willie Brown
Michelle has a brown Willie.
That’s true. Inner city trees are much more disadvantaged than those trees in the suburbs and rural areas.
We joke, but the truth is inner city neighborhoods (which tend to be predominately minority neighborhoods) tend to have less trees than rural and suburban neighborhoods. But that’s more a urban vs rural thing rather than a racial thing. Not that race baiters like cackling Kamala will ever understand that.
The closer we get to a city the less trees there are
and even inside the city this trend usually continues the closer we get to the inner city.
Trees don’t like growing in concrete 🙂
Forget the racism too. Sexism is rampant in San Francisco, where the fruit trees are male, so they don’t dump fruit on the sidewalk.
No mixed metaphors there, but what a set-up for some gay repartee, eh …..?
short of pecan walnut and pistachio which are all NUT trees ALL fruit trees are female or theyre NOT fruit trees
flowering plums are the only aussie one I can think of nice flowers zero fruit used as roadside trees but NOT in cities often tortured by pruning to odd shapes
Yeah plums are what I read about in San Francisco. Male plum tree pollen has feelings too ya know.
I think she was trying to ask if NASA could use satellites to work out if there were more trees in predominately white neighbourhoods compared with black neighbourhoods. This is only slightly less batty than trying to determine the tree’s race, as it would suggest that she thinks the most important thing affecting the quality of life of people in poor black neighbourhoods is how many trees they can see, rather than poverty, high crime, poor schools etc.
Were it determined that there are more trees in predominantly black neighborhoods, she would characterize that as a White Supremacist effort to propagate automobile accidents in minority communities. There is no rational discourse to be had there.
If there was less it would be a conspiracy to deny predominantly black neighborhoods fresh clean air ….. it’s a win, win.
Tracking trees by race? How stupid is that? Didn’t know trees had a race. Reminds me of a discussion I had with a Dean at graduate school (before humor was banned by Democrat Marxists). He told of a questionnaire from the Dept. of Education that asked for the number of graduate students broken down by sex. He insisted his reply was, “To my knowledge, none of our students are broken down by sex. Usually it’s alcohol.”
Trees do have a race…
“OK let’s see who can drop their leaves the fastest”
Give it time, it’ll grow on you
What she is asking for is up to interpretation but the fact that she is asking a science institute to use race as a search criteria is not. The Marxists are using race and AGW to divide us is obvious.
A divided electorate leaves government with half as any people to fight or please.
Leftists have always sought to separate us by race. The more tension their is in a society, the easier it is for the government to control the people.
It leaves (sorry for the unintended pun) the door open to introduce lots of minor laws to manipulate & control the people, which is the raison d’etre Socialists are raised with, manipulate, control, rule, dominate!!! After all, it’s for their own good but the people just don’t realise it, apparently!!!
“What she is asking for is up to interpretation”
Which means she isn’t capable of asking a coherent question.
This from the political party that gave us representative Sheila Jackson Lee, who asked NASA if they could send the Pathfinder rover over the hill and photograph the flag the astronauts left. The representative, I forget his name, who was worried Guam would tip over if we deployed too many troops there. Not to mention, Al Gore and John Kerry.
Yes, it was good ol’ Hank Johnson. But KH does make him look semi-smart, sort of.
This is a profoundly stupid person, who can’t even get above Creepy Joe’s poll numbers.
God help the White trees if they can track by race.
Well, for starters, there are white birch and black walnut.
And also eucalyptus trees such as black butt, yellow box, red gum, white gum . . .
Well we should immediately have that address to make sure that all the more important and popular species don’t have white in descriptor. As they say Black Trees Matter.
Bann them immediately, they have no rights to exist!!!!!!!!!!!! 😉
Red maple, plus black and white oak, never mind REDBUD trees.
I’m sure Blue Spruce is feeling left out about now
Woman is dumb as a bag of
At least a bag of hammers has a practical use for a carpenter. She isn’t of any practical value to anyone.
She was of practical use to Willie Brown
And to Brown’s willy, I presume.
It’s likely the reason she was “given” the spot of Veep on the ballot. Insurance, y’know – something like that. Biteme may be bordering on the downhill side of SD, but his doctor wifey can keep him in an upright position.
Just waiting for KH to commit a truly serious faux pas…. or did I miss that already?
If I was this guy, I would have responded “No, it can’t identify institutional racism. But for another trillion dollars in our budget, we could build one that does.”
I have no idea what she just said…
“can you measure um trees?…part of that data that you’re referring to, and it’s EJ’s environmental justices, but you can also track by race their averages in terms of the number of trees in the neighbourhood where people live”
Btw, it’s also very rude to ask the question to the guy making the presentation, then immediately turn away to look for the answer from someone else.
Maybe if we knew what the guy was talking about it might make more sense…maybe.
Can NASA count the number of roos loose in the top paddock from up there?
NASA, probably not, but I’d bet the DoD can.
OT but worth of an editor’s attention:
“Melting Alpine glacier reveals hidden WW1 tunnels and bunkerHistorians delight in trove of lost artefacts, yet have ‘huge concern’ about the impact of climate change on the Alps’ 4,000 glaciers”
This bit made me laugh ‘have ‘huge concern’ about the impact of climate change on the Alps’ 4,000 glaciers‘
Have some sympathy for the poor WWI soldiers had to dig dip under glacier, unless (of course) the area was clear of ice.
“Yes, sir, Officer Obie, I cannot tell a lie, I put that envelope
under that garbage.”
(It’s almost Thanksgiving)
This guy should have his diploma pulled, what a nutter.
There’s always another way to save the glaciers. How about towing a big honking asteroid into the Earth’s orbit. Then when it hits the surface, it will create a shitestorm or ash and debri that will temporarily block the sun’s rays, and wallah! Glaciers Rejoice!!
Soon, she will want not only the count of minority trees, but also an estimate of mass, leaves, and health of each tree. It would seem likely that certain kinds of trees are more WOKE than others so maybe we should track tree species as well. Rich-Man trees will be taxed.
We need to have an accurate estimate of both sunshine and water delivered to each tree so that we can ensure that minority trees are getting at least their fair share. If they aren’t, a massive $4.5T Green Gnu Deal spending bill to pay for infrastructure to move water and sunshine (space mirrors) to the disadvantaged trees should be passed, and half of this money used for counseling the minority trees and building them “Safe Fields” where they can continue to grow in a safer environment away from nasty rich-man trees.
I can ridicule this person all day…the problem is she likely supports about half of this.
That’s genius man!! You need to send this proposal along with resume to the Biden Admin pronto. You will definitely be meeting with the big guy real soon. This is a capital idea; definite Cabinet-level stupid.
Kamala had a thought. Doesn’t happen often but when it does stand up comedy wins.
I read that she is mixed race…1/4 black…1/4 white….1/2 Indian as from India. The Great Obomba is 1/2 black and 1/2 white. Both carry the race card.
And in both cases, the card is over drawn.
It’s a card that the left just love to play at every opportunity, that good old “racist” card is their go to card when losing any debate or argument, even if or even especially if it’s over concerns over military build ups in Russia or China, use the racist card asap!!!!
Apparently when whites vote for a black woman to be Lt Governor of Virginia, this is proof that the whites are racist.
It’s the only “argument” I hear anymore. Telling.
Hey, identity matters. I’m 1/2 Irish and 1/2 German, and suffer from the curse of my people. Every pay day, I get really, really drunk…then invade France.
In Australia there are two eucalypt species with common names of white gum and black gum, due mainly to the colour of the bark. Both species are not sought out by the millers and the black gum (eucalyptus ovata) is considered rare and is now protected and the white gum (eucalyptus viminalis) is quite common and is found throughout most of the country. So I guess the the black gum matters.
I think there is something there that is telling me something. but can’t put a finger on it.
Was it a result of the White Australia Policy?
She always seems high/drunk to me. Anyone else?
Her Dad said much the same…
Dumb people sometimes seem that way John, ‘cos they’re pretending to be smart.
I have to admit my white privilege, there are about 40 trees on my 1/3 acre.
But, there are no street (public) trees within 1000 feet of my property.
I am very confused, I may very well be dark, but privileged.
Go for the late Peter Ustinov argument, as he had with American immigration officials when first entering America, he put in answer to the question, “colour”, “Pink”, the immigration officials were not best pleased because he had to be “white” or “coloured”!!!! As I said the other day, apparently “white” is no longer a colour, however I believe that we’re ALL coloured, the shade just varies!!!! The best Afro-Caribbean jokes were told to me by Afro-Caribbean men & women, the best Asian-Indian jokes were told to me by Asian-Indian men & women, the best Jewish jokes were told to me by Jewish men & women, the list goes on!!! I dislike anyone who uses race as a political weapon to stir up division & hatred on those grounds!!!
People who have been divided by racial hatred, are easier to rule.
Kamala has been studying the North Korean crazy ant leadership style and is now ready for full scale weapons grade deployment. You had better find your place in Race World or Climate World because there is no room elsewhere. Our allies need to hold some emergency meetings soon to align with others or prepare for the worst. Putin is smiling wide.
Which race of trees are we now pelletizing for Green World with subsidies?
Just about everything they can get their hands on. I know Drax gets pine and eucalyptus from Portugal and mostly pine from Scotland, USA and Canada but I don’t know exactly what types.
I have said it before, let’s get really serious about saving the planet, let’s ban ALL Carbon from the planet immediately, ban it all!!!!! Ah, the Solar System, devoid of all life forever!!!! I would certainly like to see the Obama’s, the Gore’s, the Sir Jonathan Porrit’s, the Sir David Attenborough’s of this world, go without any form of Carbon. Ah Carbon, the fourth most common element in the Universe, after Helium, Hydrogen, & Oxygen!!! There you have it, it’s only a fourth rate element to start with!!! 😉
Ummm…. you DO realize that all politicians are essentially carbon-based life-forms, right? I’m completely in favor of banning their ilk.
Apparently roads and bridges can also be racist.
There is no end as long as it pays.
I like this: Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, tweeted, “The roads are racist. We must get rid of roads.”
I suggest we return to the usage of horses and draft mules and draft oxen, and buggies, coaches, and unicorn-powered commerce. By unicorn, I do not mean the bearded, split-hooved fake horse with a narwhal horn sticking out of its forehead. The Teamsters drove a 3-up draft horse-drawn transport waggon, with one horse up front and two behind, which was known as a “unicorn hitch”. Just a bit of Really Olden Times history.
And think of all the fertilizer that horses and draft oxen can produce for use in gardens and on croplands! Never mind the dispersal of bovine intestinal gases: this will take those nasty CO2-blowing automobiles and trucks off the roads and stop their dispersal of horrifying tons of CO2 into the atmosphere.
Not only that, we can go back to everyone taking horse-drawn buses or trolleys, like you might see in old films from near the end of the Golden Age.
Those WERE the days, my friends! Everything was so simple then….
I wonder what race Bristlecone Pines are?
Right now I must shave my bristle, and put a few pine logs on the fire.
I Bristle with this Woke stuff….
I suspect that there is a far greater problem of lead in urban water supplies than is generally appreciated. It would explain a lot!
However, considering Harris’ education in political science, economics and law and her need to cater to her followers, one should not be all that surprised at her wokeness when it comes to knowledge of climate science.
That is, would it matter squat if “black people” lived with more (or less) trees per acre than people of other races? All along I’ve been told that CO2 in the world’s atmosphere is “well mixed”.
By her sophomoric question, Kamala must believe this is not the case, else she doesn’t have a clue about what she’s asking.
“she doesn’t have a clue about what she’s asking”
You could have left out all the other stuff.
And you could have left out “about what she’s asking”
So this is what we will get when Joe will go to care home?
Joe’s already IN the care home.
“What [is she] … a hockey puck!” Don Rickles
“What a Maroon!” Bugs Bunny
Propose a program to plant more trees in black neighborhoods and watch the woke crowd accuse you of racism for implying that blacks belong in a jungle.
I believe most blacks in Africa can be found on the savannah. A place without a lot of trees.
Time to reset that belief.
“As of 2015, 50 percent of Africa’s population lived in one of 7,617 urban agglomerations. With 78 percent of its citizens in urban areas, North Africa is the most urbanized region. Indeed, according to the report, within North Africa, Egypt and Libya stand out as the most urbanized countries with urbanization levels of 93 and 81 percent, respectively.”—source OECD via https://www.brookings.edu/blog/africa-in-focus/2020/07/16/figures-of-the-week-africas-urbanization-dynamics/
And please note that those figures date to 2015 . . . you can be sure that the urbanization of the continent has continued upward so that today less than 50 percent of “blacks in Africa can be found on the savannah” (your words in italics here).
Egyptians and Libyans are Arab, not “black”.
Uhhh . . . I do believe the phrase “50 percent of Africa’s population” includes both “blacks” (which is the term originally used in this thread by MarkW, not me) AND Arabs.
Are you insinuating, with racial bias, that “blacks” are predisposed to “stay on savannah” instead of move to cities, whereas Arabs are predisposed to just the opposite?
Back in the daze, I had access to a lot of data and being quite curious I decided to analyze populations which lived downwind from refineries. I could do this this by overlaying Census block data on a GIS map (this was about 1973). Picked a small Metro Area in the Midwest and of course found that low income households tended to live downwind of the refineries.
Well no kidding, housing was cheap because no one else wanted to live there. Started to analyze the health care costs in those areas but was told to stop…. I did manage to look at things like household income/vehicle miles traveled which they really liked for retail locational analysis. Made some nice traffic volume plots of this money moving on the roads.
Who told you to stop?
The local city officials didn’t want to know about their dirty laundry.
This is important, as you know there are few trees in the Sahara Desert and on mountain Everest. That is not right. Also there are many trees in forests and few in cities such as New York.
The obvious solution is to plant a forest of Redwood trees in New York city. The democratic party will handle the funding,zoning and permits.
Diversity [dogma] (i.e. color judgment).
Given the long life of trees, it will be interesting to see how they track change of racial make-up of neighbourhoods with density of trees…….
A plethora of PhDs on this subject coming up!!!!
The worst thing here is she didn’t think of this herself, this is a question her staff prepared for her to ask to make her look intelligent.
The Ron Klain-Susan Rice administration is an example of the dumb leading the dumber. That is why things have gone so wrong so fast. 10 months of total failure and we have 3 years left in which everything can only get worse.
whatever joes got is contagious!
no wonder her appro rating managed to be even lower than his 38%
from facepalm to banging head on wall stupid isnt she
Joe’s handlers have a real big problem on their hands. Joe’s plummeting popularity is starting to drag down other Democrats all across the country. National, state and local.
The problem is that if they decide to retire Joe, he will be replaced by the only person in the country who is less popular than Joe. Kamala Harris.
When the race card is all you have you just have to play it at every opportunity, I guess.
I will not look at my black poplars in the same way again.
Dan Quale can rest easy now. They have taken away his status of the dumbest VP ever. We never imagined that was possible, but here it is. Biden has achieved something, he found someone even dumber than him and even dumber than Dan for VP..
Now that is an achievement that will go down in history.
After Kamala explores “EJ, environmental justice” with NASA with regard to trees, she is off to solve the European illegal immigrant invasion problem.
The United States has the most disfunctional administration in U.S. history with Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. Let’s just hope we can survive another year of this insane administration, then maybe the adults can get back in charge.
I want to see Trump become Speaker of the House of Representatives after he gets rid of all the stupid Republicans currently in Congress that vote with Democrats, and replaces them with “America First” Republicans.
Out of dozens of candidates Trump has endorsed, only two have lost their subsequent political races. So there’s a pretty good chance Trump can oust all those Republicans who can’t see the danger in Democrat socialism.
Mayor Pete just figured out that roads are racist.
These Radical Democrats are insane. They live and breath racism and division. If they can’t find racism, then they will create it, like they are doing now in our schools.
I saw a typo recently when a senator was being quoted. He was referred to as a member of the Demonic party. A description I applaud the spell check process for. It came up with such an accurate description. Maybe they had Kamala in mind? These AI systems are getting very sophisticated these days.
Actually there is (earth-observation) research into the “greenness” of neighborhoods in order to explore access to cooler green areas in urbanized regions to escape to during heat waves (exacerbated by the urban heat island effect). That research indicates that – maybe unsurprisingly – affluent suburbs are greener than poor suburbs.
Is someone denying the poor access to trees? I doubt it. It must be something else, then.
As I always suspected: Harris is a prime example of the term “dumber than a box of [bent screws, rocks, used kleenex, goldfish chewtoys – take yer pick].
I knew she was abundantly stupid, but somehow, it never got publicized in quite this way.
Thank you for confirming my suspicions. She wouldn’t be dangerous even if she had a working brain. Geezo Pete, she’s even dumber than whats-his-name: you know, The Thing!
I see no redeeming qualities in Kamala, as far as being in a leadership position.
Biden’s approval rating today is about 38 percent. Kamala’s approval rating is about 28 percent.
The Democrats are looking for new leadership to represent them in 2024. Or, at least, they should be.
And if you want to know how much real support Biden has, that poll number tells you. About 38 percent of the population. These have to be his hard-core supporters, seeing as how they still approve of him even though his every move is worse than his last move.
Lysenkoist: “Can you show how the crop yields were poor because the farmer didn’t take our presumedly correct conclusion that smashing seeds closer together will produce higher yields?”
Neo-Lysenkoism: see Kamala Harris.
She should get busy fighting the white supremacy of birch and poplar trees. And what is it with polar bears? Shouldn’t we send them all to reeducation camps? Does the white part of a Panda oppress the black part? Kamala must have the answers.
They ought to start photoshopping the polar bears and turn at least some of them into black and brown bears. That would be much more inclusive, and would probably prevent overly-sensitive people from being triggered by all-white polar bears.
Seeing everything, no matter how absurd, through a racial lens, is a serious pathology. Has anyone labeled it yet, and secured a large monetary grant, to study these unfortunate people?
“Seeing everything, no matter how absurd, through a racial lens, is a serious pathology.”
Yes! That’s what we are dealing with in the radical Democrats. They are seriously deluded/propagandized and seriously dangerous because of it.
When we bought our house 20 or years ago from a white couple, it had 7 trees on our property.
It now has 3 trees.
What “race” am I?
I think there is a “tree” provision in one of these boondoogle Democrat spending bills that you might be able to use to plant more trees on your propery. But you will probably have to be a minority of one kind or another. No White people need apply. White people already have all the trees they want.
In my neighborhood, they cut all the trees down so they could widen the roads to build green “bicycle lanes”..(that no one ever uses !)
Well I’m lost here having read it all a couple of times and watched it I still cannot work out if there is any intelligent life in the White House. maybe it’s like in the silly song about Star Trek
“It’s life Jim but not as we know it”
You wonder how those giving the presentation managed to keep from laughing……..Yeah so that’s why they have mask mandates?