Greta Thunberg: The West Owes Former Colonies a Climate Debt

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

According to Greta rich countries have to pay reparations for the ancestral crime of bringing industry, roads, hospitals, schools and comfort in old age to the world.

WATCH: Greta Thunberg Claims West Owes Colonised Countries a ‘Historical Debt’ to Drastically Cut Emissions

VICTORIA FRIEDMAN 6 Nov 2021

Teen climate activist Greta Thunberg has implied that the West owes a “historical debt” to countries in the Global South to drastically reduce carbon emissions due to the legacy of colonialism.

Speaking at a Fridays for Future youth protest in Glasgow, Scotland, on the fringes of the United Nations COP26 climate conference, 18-year-old Thunberg said: “The climate and ecological crisis, of course, does not exist in a vacuum. It is directly tied to other crises and injustices that date back to colonialism and beyond.

“Crises based on the idea that some people are worth more than others and therefore have the right to exploit others and steal their land and resources.”

The teen climate activist continued by implying that the climate crisis cannot be solved without confronting these “injustices”, saying: “It is very naive of us to think that we can solve this crisis without addressing the root cause of it.”

She then alluded to the West, using the increasingly popular term ‘Global North’ to describe the developed world — compared to the ‘Global South’, which is also being used more frequently in recent years to discuss climate change and ‘decolonising’ the alleged crisis — having a “historical debt” to the countries it colonised, which she says are on the “front line” of the “climate crisis”.

Read more (includes video): https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2021/11/06/teen-climate-activist-greta-thunberg-brands-cop26-failure-pr-exercise/

Greta, as a resident of a former colony of the “global south”, you are welcome to send me climate reparations. I’m sure if you contact Anthony we can figure out how you can get the cash to me.

I’m sure other WUWT readers have historic grievances which require reparations. Make sure you list your grievances below, so Greta understands your need for climate cash.

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MarkW
November 7, 2021 6:18 am

For the most part, former British colonies are doing well.
It’s the French and Spanish colonies that are basket cases.
Not that they were doing all that well prior to being French and Spanish colonies.

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Richard Page
Reply to  MarkW
November 7, 2021 6:23 am

Send them all a bill for infrastructure and development of the colony, then tell them we’ll pay their debt out of that.

Sunderlandsteve
Reply to  Richard Page
November 7, 2021 6:40 am

Adjusted for inflation of course.

BallBounces
Reply to  Richard Page
November 7, 2021 9:49 am

And include the value of all western-originated inventions and benefits including electricity, autos, planes, phones, computers, eyeglasses, medicines etc. etc.

The Saint
Reply to  BallBounces
November 7, 2021 7:30 pm

Greta is the dumbest child in Europe – maybe the world.

D Cage
Reply to  The Saint
November 7, 2021 9:48 pm

NO. She is clever cunning dishonest scam promoter jumping on a highly lucrative extortion racket band wagon.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  The Saint
November 7, 2021 11:25 pm

Maybe?????? Let’s not beat about the bush where she is concerned!!!

Quilter 52
Reply to  The Saint
November 8, 2021 12:39 am

Almost certainly the most exploited by her parents.

czechlist
Reply to  Quilter 52
November 8, 2021 8:21 am

and the IPCC. I always seek out a teenaged high school dropout when I need cogent scientific and economic recommendations.

huls
Reply to  The Saint
November 8, 2021 11:46 am

If only she had attended school…

BobM
Reply to  BallBounces
November 8, 2021 9:28 am

Exactly. Any decent accounting will show the rest of the world has been carried along by the West, such that the ROW poor are now living better than those in the West were before the “Industrial Revolution”.

fretslider
Reply to  MarkW
November 7, 2021 6:47 am

For the most part, former British colonies are doing well”

They were indeed doing very well, but then something happened and they, like us, imported political correctness and identity politics.

n.n
Reply to  fretslider
November 7, 2021 8:55 am

Semantic games. They imported and exported political congruence (“=”); progressive corruption, confusion, etc.; and diversity [dogma] (i.e. color judgment) including color blocs (e.g. people of color), sexism, ageism, and other class-based bigotry, under a Twilight faith and Pro-Choice (i.e. ethical, relativistic) religion. One step forward, two steps backward.

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Alan the Brit
Reply to  n.n
November 7, 2021 11:28 pm

At the risk of being censured, but is white not a “colour”??? Are we not ALL coloured??? Not sure I like this colour-prejudice being displayed openly in the MSM etc.!!!

asiaseen
Reply to  Alan the Brit
November 8, 2021 4:17 am

White is the almagam of ALL colours. Black is the absence of colour.

BobM
Reply to  asiaseen
November 8, 2021 9:25 am

Not in people. Melanin, a skin pigment, determines white, yellow, brown, black, etc. Melanin protects skin from UVB in sunlight.

stewartpid
Reply to  MarkW
November 7, 2021 8:16 am

Mark …. Canada was doing okay but we are now cursed by a prime minister with the IQ of a turnip! Commie lite socialists in the eastern part of the country keep voting the clown in 🙁

n.n
Reply to  stewartpid
November 7, 2021 8:58 am

Urbane heat… social islands.

Windy Wilson
Reply to  n.n
November 7, 2021 10:13 am

Socialist Islands. Look up how the rabbit warrens of big cities always vote, even in the face of clear and convincing evidence they’re on the road to hell.

D Cage
Reply to  Windy Wilson
November 7, 2021 9:53 pm

Goebbels taught that fifty repetitions without questioning was enough to have state conditioning not just on the topic being conditioned but across the board. I would love to have the figure for how may repeats of “we must pay the indulgences to the cult church of climate change and their high priests climate scientists” with not one article saying why for each of the major UK media sources.

Tomsa
Reply to  stewartpid
November 7, 2021 11:47 am

Absolutely! here’s the map of election results for Toronto. The city only goes up to the blue near the top. Every riding in Toronto went Liberal!

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Gary Pearse
Reply to  MarkW
November 7, 2021 8:35 am

Don’t leave out the worst. Belgium. King Leopold of Belgium butchered untold numbers (1-15 M) in the Congo to exact obedience. Leo stated that the Congo was his personal property (it also included Burundi and Rwanda). Development was a low priority. He mutilated laborers as punishment for very misdemeanors and may have been the model for modern atrocities in Africa.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atrocities_in_the_Congo_Free_State

n.n
Reply to  Gary Pearse
November 7, 2021 9:03 am

The model, one of a diversity, was perhaps the richest man in the world, a black Muslim emperor and slaver, who carried out redistributive and retributive change against his and other nations through socialism and war.

D Cage
Reply to  Gary Pearse
November 7, 2021 10:00 pm

But we are not taught and few ever discover that the Moors and the Corsair pirates took European and Asian slaves and even their own considered the brutality gratuitous and a waste of good slaves Slaves were treated as one use carrier bags and tortured for entertainment after each phase was completed and on average their European and Asian had a life expectancy of one month. I was told by a relative who was into history our family were reduced from land owners to being poor shepherds by these slavers.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  D Cage
November 7, 2021 11:35 pm

Do be careful, some people don’t like to hear the truth &/or reality of history, especially about themselves!!!

Gunga Din
Reply to  MarkW
November 7, 2021 12:46 pm

A few former British colonies.
The United States
Australia
Canada
South Africa
India

Does Great Britain have enough pounds sterling and Crown Jewels to pay us all for the “damage” they did?

D Cage
Reply to  Gunga Din
November 7, 2021 10:07 pm

As an Anglo Indian, India did not exist. It was a large number of warring local chiefs and each area had its own language. India benefitted more than it lost from that era by a huge margin. We should be demanding compensation from Germany for the loss of the empire if we gained so much from it. Recrimination is a game we could play better than most as we are an island constantly raided. by Scandinavia, Germany, Italy and France.

Gunga Din
Reply to  MarkW
November 7, 2021 12:57 pm

And speaking of the Spanish, what do the Apache and other plains tribes owe them for reintroducing the Horse to North America and so immensely improving their ancestors’ lifestyles?

Alan the Brit
Reply to  MarkW
November 7, 2021 11:24 pm

Far too many people go on & on about the British Empire & its slave-trade, but certain countries keep their group heads well below the parapet about their own, e.g. France, Spain, Portugal, Germany, the Roman Empire & its slave trade, The Greek Empire who owned oodles of slaves, The Persian Empire (for goodness sake don’t upset them). They ALL owned slaves & dealt in slaves, as did many African tribes throughout history. It wasn’t unheard of for salve traders to pay coastal African tribes to go raiding inland to seize men, women, & children, for selling on to the traders!!! Think of all that gold etc being “stolen” from what is now Mexico & northern parts of South America, Errol Flynn et al made a small Hollywood fortune from movies about it!!! Yet again the truth & reality rears its ugly head, it’s ALL about the money, give us money, lots of it, right now!!! Somebody silence that Poison Dwarf!!!

Richard Page
November 7, 2021 6:20 am

When Greta apologises for the colonisation of England, Scotland, France, Russia and other countries by the Swedish, Danish and Norwegians then maybe I’ll stop laughing. If you go back far enough almost everywhere was ‘colonised’ by homo sapiens out of East Africa, can’t really see them forking out billions to the rest of the world though. About time idiots like her realised they’re just making public their complete ignorance and stupidity.

fretslider
Reply to  Richard Page
November 7, 2021 6:44 am

Greta could take the Ashanti empire (modern Ghana) to task.

The people of colour who sold a great many fellow people of colour to Western trading companies….

Amusingly, the British fought a war against the Ashanti to… end their slavery trade.

Ed Zuiderwijk
Reply to  fretslider
November 7, 2021 7:46 am

Knowledge is not Greta’s strongest point.

alexei
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
November 7, 2021 8:59 am

Which also applies to her followers, the mis-educated and easily misled current youth.

Chaswarnertoo
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
November 7, 2021 9:40 am

Nor is logic or cool rationalisation.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
November 7, 2021 10:03 am

I’m at pains to determine what Greta’s strong point is … provided she has any. So far she’s only displayed a rather common pubescent female’s affinity for being a scold and a bully.

Retired_Engineer_Jim
Reply to  Rory Forbes
November 7, 2021 1:17 pm

But she is now trying to bully the CAGW / CCC crowd. Isn’t that a redeeming feature?

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Retired_Engineer_Jim
November 7, 2021 3:09 pm

She doesn’t think they’re radical enough. She wants them to END ALL FOSSIL FUEL USE RIGHT NOW … or she’ll get really angry.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Rory Forbes
November 7, 2021 11:41 pm

I have two fly-swats so if somebody close to the Poison Dwarf wants to borrow one, just ask!!!

J.R.
Reply to  Rory Forbes
November 7, 2021 2:38 pm

Lucy got her start bullying Linus. Greta seems to be a real-life incarnation.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  J.R.
November 7, 2021 3:10 pm

Yes, there’s definitely a theme here.

D Cage
Reply to  Rory Forbes
November 7, 2021 10:12 pm

Making a pile out a world mega scam of course. That is a huge and worthwhile skill I wish I had at her age.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  D Cage
November 7, 2021 11:23 pm

In truth, her family is connected in Swedish society. The child can’t fail in the same way that Hunter Bie-Den can’t fail. She has no talent whatever. She has been used for a purpose by her parents. When she finally discovers becoming a world laughing stock was her parent’s fault she’ll be very, very angry.

MarkW
Reply to  Rory Forbes
November 8, 2021 6:41 am

she’ll be very, very angry

At least she has had a lot of practice at that.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Rory Forbes
November 7, 2021 11:39 pm

Today’s rebels are tomorrows establishment!!! Always happens without fail!!!

Retired_Engineer_Jim
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
November 7, 2021 1:14 pm

Also, please tell her that the PRC, Russia and much of India are in the Global North. Do they, too, owe reparations to the Global South?

SxyxS
Reply to  fretslider
November 7, 2021 11:06 am

It gets even funnier .

The Ashanti and many other tribes started a war against evil white man after evil white man tried to end slavery.But evil white man won and ended slavery – damn rascist white people.
Especially the muslims (who build a slave trade hub in Sudan and whose prophet was a mass enslaver (that’s why slavery is legal in islam)long before europeans joined the slave trade ),
were super pissed as they lost a thousand years of tradition and massive income.
They were so pissed that they made almost all black slaves disappear.

In case you never wondered “Why are there more black players in German,French,American teams etc than in Teams of arab countries (there are usually none or those are top athletes from other countries paid to win them medals)- you may now get an idea.

Or why are there no original black people in spain,though mors(,a unity of arabs,jews and blacks)colonized Iberia for centuries?
Well,the religion i am from traditionally cut off their balls and dicks even when they were not slaves.
5-10% survival rate. but as there were many black slaves we obviously didn’t care.
And the usual arab term for a black person is abeed/abdi which means ni99a.

Now i wonder how greta will climate compensate them?

PS
Don’t blame me.
We never had slaves + I’m probably the only person thematising it but my comments are being systematically deleted by youtube and friends

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Windy Wilson
Reply to  Richard Page
November 7, 2021 10:18 am

It’s easy for Greta the Great to talk about the need for reparations for bringing sanitation, law, roads, etc. to the “Third World” countries (I think we can still say that, her green tree has red roots, and that was the Communist Bloc’s term) her weenie of a country tried colonization once in North America, as “New Sweden”, but they couldn’t make it work, and it is now, IIRC, southern New Jersey and Eastern Pennsylvania.

Gunga Din
Reply to  Windy Wilson
November 7, 2021 1:16 pm
D Cage
Reply to  Richard Page
November 7, 2021 10:10 pm

Belief in Man made climate change is enough to put the seal on her as a semi moron at best. Let’s be honest when did we last see a mainstream media objective article on WHY to believe the academic anal apertures who call themselves scientists but deny us the fundamental requirement of science of proof?

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Richard Page
November 7, 2021 11:37 pm

As I said before, there is an old saying that goes something like, “It’s better to keep silent & let people think you are stupid, rather than open your mouth & prove it!”. She is a classic case!!!

fretslider
November 7, 2021 6:40 am

It wasn’t all for nothing

2018: We Don’t Have Time founder, Ingmar Rentzhog, recognised as Sweden’s #1 Environmental Influencer of the year.

Yes, he created our Greta, she wasn’t on strike for long before Al Gore, 350.org etc made it ‘viral’ They are very well connected after all….

“Malena Ernman: WWF Environmental Hero of the Year, 2017”

“Thunberg was born into privilege and wealth.

Her mother is Swedish opera singer and celebrity Malena Ernman. Her father is actor Svante Thunberg, while her grandfather is actor and director Olof Thunberg. “Her ancestor on her father’s side is the Nobel Prize winner, Svante Arrhenius. Arrhenius was a Swedish physicist and chemist who received the Nobel Prize for Chemistry in 1903. He is known for myriad scientific contributions but it was his discovery that an increase in atmospheric carbon dioxide increases the Earth’s surface temperature. That finding led to the conclusion that human-made carbon dioxide emissions cause global warming.”

https://www.theartofannihilation.com/the-manufacturing-of-greta-thunberg-for-consent-the-most-inconvenient-truth-capitalism-is-in-danger-of-falling-apart/

You can see (with the added bonus of autism and mental instability) she was the perfect choice to front the operation.

But now her star is waning Warhol was right, but it isn’t always 15 minutes.

Has the developing world thanked us for the technologies and know how that have improved their lives

Then there is the small matter of all the money in aid over the last 60 years or so. That adds up.

The trouble with a puppet is it can only speak the words that are put into its mouth.

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  fretslider
November 7, 2021 7:22 am

“That finding led to the conclusion theory that human-made carbon dioxide emissions cause possibly contributes somewhat to global warming”

corrections made (by me)

HotScot
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
November 7, 2021 7:34 am

Which I believe he recanted in 1906…….

Disputin
Reply to  HotScot
November 7, 2021 8:38 am

Yes, after recalculating and getting half the resultant temperature increase.

Retired_Engineer_Jim
Reply to  HotScot
November 7, 2021 1:22 pm

And didn’t Angstrom refute the “theory”?

Alan the Brit
Reply to  HotScot
November 7, 2021 11:49 pm

Sorry, HotScot, I should have read further before commenting above!!!

Richard Page
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
November 7, 2021 7:34 am

Hypothesis; it’s never been a theory. It would’ve had to be a correct hypothesis to become a theory and it’s never even been close.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Richard Page
November 7, 2021 10:10 am

It’s surprising how many people don’t understand that simple fact. They’re never going to get close, either, if they insist on only using adulterated data.

M Courtney
Reply to  Rory Forbes
November 7, 2021 12:51 pm

The Minister in Church tonight said he had heard on the radio that the last time the temperatures had been this high was when the dinosaurs roamed the Earth.
I didn’t correct him as I’m sure he was telling the truth.
He probably did hear that if he listens to BBC Radio 4.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  M Courtney
November 7, 2021 1:02 pm

You might have asked him, with deep interest, where there had been dinosaur sightings a thousand years ago. The Socratic method is often the best means to question mistaken authorities.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  M Courtney
November 7, 2021 11:52 pm

So what he actually said in not so many words, was that the Earth has been this warm & warmer before??? I just love it when I hear people say things like that, they simply don’t listen to what they have just said & see the stupidity of it!!!

D Cage
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
November 7, 2021 10:20 pm

A theory there is no accurate enough data to argue either way on as academics do not bother about data quality as part of their peer review. They use weather data from Stevenson screens with an uncertainty way larger than the claimed CO2 effect instead of collecting valid data. They then believe one station of a selected environmental type every 400,000 sq. KM is accurate enough to give a practical fraction of one degree accuracy when a test measurement shows it does not do so for even 40 sq.metres.

SxyxS
Reply to  fretslider
November 7, 2021 11:29 am

The guy who discovered Greta is a good friend of Al Gore since many years.
Gretas mom got the wwf person of the year award a year before Greta was cast… discovered.
And Greta is just a copy of UN’ s first (&failed)try yo implement a child star as propaganda unit.
The original Greta was Severn Suzuki from the 90ies..
A child from a wealthy family,travelling thousands of miles “alone” and having the amazing “” Luck “” to be allowed to speak at the UN.
even the speach was identical.

2 reasons why Severn failed.
1) Severn said ” I have no Agenda ” – that part was cancelled for Greta.
2) It was before the telecommunication act.
The telecommunication act enabled the monopolizing of US msm by a handful of corporations so propaganda can be easier coordinated.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  SxyxS
November 7, 2021 1:36 pm

It should be noted that Severn Suzuki was only 12 at the Rio Conference in ’92, when Canada had an important presence there. Severn is David (fruit fly) Suzuki’s daughter. He’s Canada’s very own David Attenborough; Marxist, multi millionaire and saint. His CBC sinecure allows him to virtue signal about mankind’s evil ways. As a long time supporter of eugenics, Malthus and Paul Ehrlich he was Canadian socialist billionaire oil executive, Maurice Strong’s science guru. Strong was the father of Agenda 21 and author of various scandals like Oil for food and UN funding in North Korea.

Severn Suzuki was no innocent neophyte, even at 12. She was a seasoned veteran of Marxist environmentalism and international politics.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  fretslider
November 7, 2021 11:48 pm

Surely, from what I have read in the past, he fully recanted on that notion about a decade later, to very little announcement in public!!! Like so many in the past, they make a great announcement of a discovery or conclusion about this or that, but after a little time has passed they withdraw their opinions discreetly!!!

2hotel9
November 7, 2021 6:41 am

Waiting on my reparations from the Huns. Where my check be ats?!?!?!

MarkW
Reply to  2hotel9
November 7, 2021 8:47 am

If we go back far enough, every body has been enslaved by someone.
That’s why the left that wants to limit history to the last 200 years.

The other thing is that all Europeans, no matter when they lived, must be judged by the most woke of standards.
Non-Europeans on the other hand, no matter when they lived, are not to be judged, period. Judging them would be racist.

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2hotel9
Reply to  MarkW
November 8, 2021 4:59 am

Funny how they refuse to admit blacks were sold into slavery by blacks, mainly muslim blacks. The truth is so very inconvenient.

MarkW
Reply to  2hotel9
November 8, 2021 6:44 am

Truth isn’t inconvenient, it’s irrelevant.
They don’t care what the truth is, and will just ignore it if you present it to them.
They will just keep spouting whatever they need to spout in order to get what they want.

2hotel9
Reply to  MarkW
November 8, 2021 7:53 am

And every day more people are simply tuning them out. When all they do is lie about every single thing, and even casual observers can easily discern they are lying, they lose their soapbox. Hence the calls for armed force to compel people to accept their mentally retarded crap.

Gunga Din
Reply to  2hotel9
November 7, 2021 1:29 pm

To the best of my knowledge, my ancestry is Irish, German with maybe some Scottish thrown in.
If I play my “Ancestor Cards” right I’m sure I can pick a time period where somebody or somebodies wronged all of them.
Is there a form I need to fill out to claim my “reparations”? Where do I send it?

2hotel9
Reply to  Gunga Din
November 8, 2021 5:04 am

Not a prob! Just make out your application, in triplicate, and drop it off at Accusatory Occiasional-Cortex’s office, she’ll get right on that. 😉

Gunga Din
Reply to  2hotel9
November 8, 2021 3:11 pm

Will I need a photo ID to be admitted to her office? 😎

2hotel9
Reply to  Gunga Din
November 9, 2021 3:43 am

Only if you are an evil white male.

Climate believer
November 7, 2021 6:46 am

She spouts all this scripted idiotic Marxist claptrap from her parents wherever she goes, and all you hear is Greta said this, and Greta said that, but what you never hear is her being confronted and asked to explain her simplistic juvenile view of the world, because everyone knows she can’t.

The poor girl can hardly string a sentence together when she’s off script.

Peta of Newark
Reply to  Climate believer
November 7, 2021 7:25 am

Exactly. poor little girl because what she’s showing there is Classic Autism.
That guy with the near endless and convoluted question is ‘it’
That is what defines the disorder
If he’d been brief and ‘to the point’ she’d have been straight back at him with laser sharpness. an incredible memory and mind-blowing honesty

The fact that the guy couldn’t put his question any better than he did really does call his mental acuity into question..

I have asked this question here very recently..
Because Autism Spectrum Disorders are not:

  • black/white
  • on/off
  • yes/no

how many undiagnosed cases are there really out there?

That journo is on my hit-list and am sorry peeps, but so are the vast majority of commentators in that other Greta thread = something straight out of Witch Hunting Junk & Magic Science of the Dark Ages.
I’ll wager that the weather was nicer back then and the food could not be worse than the tasteless & nutrient-free mush we are nowadays forced into eating.

Somehow Greta has to be persuaded to dump her parents but therein lies a near impossibility
Autistics, believe it or not and why I say what I do, autistics are very empathic, loyal and forgiving people.
what a mess

HotScot
Reply to  Peta of Newark
November 7, 2021 7:37 am

“……autistics are very empathic, loyal and forgiving people.”

Not in my very recent experience.

fretslider
Reply to  HotScot
November 7, 2021 7:59 am

They aren’t. Emotional awareness is entirely lacking.

They are not, in the jargon, neurotypical people.

Windy Wilson
Reply to  HotScot
November 7, 2021 10:23 am

They are, but not in the ways the Neurotypicals expect. Picture Larry, Darryl, and his other brother Darryl from the Newhart Show.

D Cage
Reply to  HotScot
November 7, 2021 10:25 pm

I only have an experience of one and even thirty years later the injury frequently hurts. And no I am not forgiving and intend to keep clear of unstable undesirables who do more harm than they realise..

Beagle
Reply to  Peta of Newark
November 7, 2021 9:26 am

GT also said she is clear about everything, no grey areas everything is black and white, yes or no. The bit about her being able to see carbon dioxide she said was metaphorically speaking.

Vuk
Reply to  Climate believer
November 7, 2021 7:30 am

Thanks, this is the best short video clip I’ve seen in years.
Spread it about, post it to your children & grandchildren, if necessary bribe them with pocket money to send it to their school friends.

MarkW
Reply to  Climate believer
November 7, 2021 8:49 am

can hardly string a sentence together when she’s off script

Sounds a lot like Biden.

Beagle
Reply to  MarkW
November 7, 2021 9:27 am

Except Biden often can’t read the script.

Windy Wilson
Reply to  Beagle
November 7, 2021 10:24 am

Well, there’s that, too.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Climate believer
November 7, 2021 11:58 pm

Pitiful!!!

commieBob
November 7, 2021 6:50 am

… the ancestral crime of bringing industry, roads, hospitals, schools and comfort in old age to the world.

There is a steady drum beat of people pointing out that the world is better by almost any metric. Global poverty, for instance, has decreased at a rate faster than the UN even dared to dream.

Jordan Peterson has an interview with Michael Shellenberger, author of Apocalypse Never?. Shellenberger, along with folks like Pinker and Lomborg supply incontrovertible evidence of progress. The alarmists do the best they can to ignore it.

What’s the excuse for abolishing capitalism if it’s producing something like an Earthly Paradise? That’s rhetorical of course because there is no excuse.

Some folks deny progress because it conflicts with their anti-human agenda. They are real deniers and are probably more reprehensible than any other deniers I can think of. Some folks deny historical atrocities, which is bad enough. By collapsing the economy, on the other hand, these folks seek to inflict atrocities that exceed anything else in the history of humanity.

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HotScot
Reply to  commieBob
November 7, 2021 7:43 am

Being that Capitalism is far from ideal, I wouldn’t mind these people trying to dismantle it, other than their only solution, socialism, is by any definition unimaginably worse.

If they came up with a clear, documented alternative that showed genuine promise I would be inclined to say go for it, but they just don’t have the imagination or political wherewithal to think any further than the end of their nose.

MarkW
Reply to  HotScot
November 7, 2021 8:54 am

There are no perfect solutions, and the attempts to create one here on Earth are behind most of the tragedies of history.

Capitalism isn’t perfect, but every attempt to make it better has ended in making everything worse.
The problem is that information is never perfect. The best way to deal with that is capitalism. Capitalism allows individuals to make decisions about their own lives and their own desires. The individual will always be the best person to make that decision because it is the individual who has the best knowledge of his situation.
The further away from the individual that you get, the worse and more out of date any information gets.
Trying to run an economy at a national or worse global level is a recipe for disaster as has been shown time and again.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  HotScot
November 7, 2021 10:33 am

At least part of your aversion to “capitalism” is probably due to the fact that the term was used by Marx in the pejorative. No such system exists, since from it’s first use by French socialist Louis Blank it has been a negative term. Best not to allow your enemies to define who you are.

Ours is a free market system, not a capitalist system. Without it, our world would have been unrecognizably awful.

Waza
Reply to  Rory Forbes
November 7, 2021 12:03 pm

Rory good comment.

Gunga Din
Reply to  HotScot
November 7, 2021 2:33 pm

The problem with any system Man comes up with is that their are “people” involved with all the faults we were born with. (Greed, envy, lust for power, etc.)
An AI system? No love. No compassion. No intuition.
And a “people” had to program it.
(Would you trust your life and future to a “Climate Model”?)

At least with Capitalism and/or Free Enterprise, the product that people want/need is the one that succeeds. (When Government is kept out of it.)
Those that fail? Again, keep Government out of it (Those in power tend to use it to buy votes to stay in power.), there are many, many people and groups willing to offer a hand up to those who want to get back on their feet.
(And, again, keep Government out of it, they are also free to cut off those who just want a free ride.)

ResourceGuy
November 7, 2021 6:52 am

How do I set up a post office box and bank account in South Africa?

As a second option I was born in a former colony in North America. I accept cash check or electronic payments.

A third option is just to send a bill to Sweden for helping supply the brown shirts with industrial equipment for global conquest while claiming neutrality and watching the destruction from afar.

HotScot
Reply to  ResourceGuy
November 7, 2021 7:56 am

I was born in Hong Kong where my parents helped rebuild it from the ruins of Japanese occupation. Singapore was a close relative in that respect, which fortunately remains out the clutches of the Chinese, so far. Both turned into two of the most successful countries in the world.

Greta and her handlers have no clue how many people they insult with these spurious claims of colonialism. Most colonised countries adopted the British political system and the rule of law which transformed them, often from barbaric tribal states, into peaceful, productive societies.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  ResourceGuy
November 7, 2021 12:33 pm

Well, I live in Australia, so I demand a huge slice of this proposed cash. Used notes, please…

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
November 8, 2021 12:07 am

Don’t forget to ask for notes with non-sequential numbers, not too easy to trace, etc. ;-))

Steve Oregon
November 7, 2021 6:55 am

Like all good Castro revolutionaries she gives herself more power every day.
Now she is the Judge, Jury and Executioner on all climate matters.

fretslider
Reply to  Steve Oregon
November 7, 2021 7:07 am

Except when the wind blows etc

Dave Yaussy
November 7, 2021 7:07 am

My son’s name really is Brandon. He deserves royalties. Can he claim them here? He’s entitled, I think

Krishna Gans
Reply to  Dave Yaussy
November 7, 2021 7:42 am

Better ask here 😀

fretslider
Reply to  Dave Yaussy
November 7, 2021 8:07 am

entitled”

Aren’t they all these days? They don’t even feel the need to have made a contribution, either.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  fretslider
November 8, 2021 12:11 am

When I was a young (very) man my parents told & taught me that I had rights, but, those rights came with a catch, they called it responsibility, kind of puts a damper on things doesn’t it??? Too many young people these days know their rights, very few know their responsibilities!!!

Joe
November 7, 2021 7:21 am

remember the good old days when you could have someone committed to a mental institution?

Chaswarnertoo
Reply to  Joe
November 7, 2021 9:42 am

She should pick her volcano.

November 7, 2021 7:21 am

Greta—some of my ancestors were Swedes, presumably oppressed enough by your ancestors they left. Others were Germans, and we all know about Sweden in the Thirty Years War.

Krishna Gans
Reply to  Tom Halla
November 7, 2021 7:43 am

The Finns my ask Sweden too 😀

markl
November 7, 2021 7:26 am

Like the manufactured narrative of AGW so is Greta. One thing the Marxists are masters at is propaganda. Making, seizing, and controlling the narrative is their primary weapon.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  markl
November 7, 2021 10:39 am

First they attack your language, the source of communication, forcing you to use their definitions, cancelling or penalizing you if you fail to do so. That’s the essence of political correctness, keeping you on the defensive trying to use their language rather than your own.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  markl
November 8, 2021 12:13 am

He who controls the present, controls the past, he who controls the past, controls the future!!!

SMC
November 7, 2021 7:26 am

So, since the USA is a former colony, does this mean we get to claim reparations from the British Empire?

Richard Page
Reply to  SMC
November 7, 2021 7:42 am

The British Empire hasn’t existed for some time so good luck with that! Also don’t forget that as the colonisers, you would be liable for those reparations – those descended from native Americans and imported slaves are the only ones that could benefit from that move.

SMC
Reply to  Richard Page
November 7, 2021 8:18 am

Well, no, the Native Americans should be claiming reparations from the British, and the French and the Spanish, since it was the citizens of those nations that actually colonized the Americas and therefore liable.
As for the British Empire no longer existing, under well established international norms and precedents, the UK is still liable for the the debts incurred by the Empire. Reparations could be considered debts accrued by the British Empire and so, are owed to the USA and indigenous people as the colonizers by the UK. 🙂

(for those that might not have a sense of humor, this is all snark)

Richard Page
Reply to  SMC
November 7, 2021 8:46 am

I like your sense of humour, but still no. In the same humourus tone, and under your logic the USA, as inheritors of the colony and it’s debt would then be liable – except for the precedent that the US government used after the French revolution to claim it didn’t owe the new French government anything.

SMC
Reply to  Richard Page
November 7, 2021 9:11 am

🙂 We didn’t inherit the Colonies, we won them fair and square in battle. As for the French, we paid that debt in spades (see below).

Rich Davis
Reply to  Richard Page
November 7, 2021 9:26 am

Let’s submit it to a democratic vote. We all believe in that, am I right? Let the whole world vote, should the UK pay us everything they have or not? (Just like three wolves and a sheep voting on what to eat for dinner).

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Rich Davis
November 8, 2021 12:26 am

It has been the case for many years, it’s ALL Britain’s fault, doesn’t matter what it is, it’s all our fault, for using coal to heat homes, burn in furnaces to make things, all our fault!!!! Clearly no other country in the World could have created an Industrial revolution!!! So Britain must pay!!! I would point out to the rest of the World, that once Britain is all paid out, someone else will have to fill the breach!!! I point out that on those two occasions I visited the Virginian Colonies I thoroughly enjoyed myself!!! Those Vikings have a lot of explaining to do, teaching us Brits to rape, pillage, steal, colonise, enslave, sail, navigate, etc!!!

Alan the Brit
Reply to  SMC
November 8, 2021 12:16 am

Well, let’s face it, the colonies in the Americas haven’t really made much of a contribution to the World, have they??? Sarc as read!!! 😉

Don Perry
Reply to  Richard Page
November 7, 2021 8:40 am

Indentured servitude included literally thousands of Europeans. Do they not count any more?

MarkW
Reply to  Don Perry
November 7, 2021 8:59 am

Never did.

SMC
Reply to  MarkW
November 7, 2021 9:08 am

So, I can’t claim personnel reparations since my earliest ancestors to the Americas were indentured servants? That’s discrimination (or am I supposed to say racist?). 🙂

Retired_Engineer_Jim
Reply to  SMC
November 7, 2021 1:35 pm

Nor can I, as my ancestors arrived in Me Amsterdam and, more recently, Ellis Island from Glasgow and Ireland.

MarkW
Reply to  Richard Page
November 7, 2021 8:58 am

Speaking of reparations, I’ve always wondered, would the descendants of blacks who owned slaves, be forced to pay reparations to themselves?

SMC
Reply to  MarkW
November 7, 2021 9:05 am

What about the Africans, not just the black slave owners, that forced people into slavery? Do they owe reparations, also?

Gunga Din
Reply to  SMC
November 7, 2021 2:44 pm

And what about the South and Central Americans?
Wasn’t it the Aztecs that would do “Flower Wars” just to get captives so they could offer human sacrifices?
If I’m not mistaken, they’d cut the heart of victim while he was still alive.
The Spanish put an end to that.
(Grrrreta, was that bad?)

HotScot
Reply to  SMC
November 7, 2021 7:59 am

By Greta’s judgement it seems you do. But we’ll have to deduct the value of our political and justice system you adopted.

Perhaps best call it quits.

BTW, there isn’t a British Empire any longer.

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SMC
Reply to  HotScot
November 7, 2021 8:20 am

BTW, there isn’t a British Empire any longer.”

You’re just quibbling. 🙂

Richard Page
Reply to  SMC
November 7, 2021 8:37 am

Probably in the same vein as the US government ‘quibbled’ over not paying the French Republic money owed to the French Crown after the US revolution! It works both ways!

SMC
Reply to  Richard Page
November 7, 2021 8:45 am

We paid the French $15 million for Louisiana. Then we liberated France from the Germans in WWI and WWII. Then we helped rebuild France after WWII. I think that debt is paid and there is now a balance owed to the USA by France.

Climate believer
Reply to  SMC
November 7, 2021 9:04 am

You just shafted us out of a 30 billion sub contract, and you still think there’s a debt? Google doesn’t pay tax here, Amazon doesn’t pay tax here, Apple doesn’t pay tax here, Facebook doesn’t pay tax here, there are disgusting Mcdonald’s everywhere ffs…

btw, lets not forget you were not alone in that liberation cowboy.

SMC
Reply to  Climate believer
November 7, 2021 9:23 am

Hey now, we’re talking about the past, not the present. It’s not my fault y’all can’t make a decent submarine in a timely manner with a minimal amount of graft and bribery. As for the McDonalds, I got nothin’, I don’t eat there either.:)

As for the rest, didn’t Janet Yellen and the rest of the Global Elitists just make an agreement about global taxes? So, there you go.

MarkW
Reply to  Climate believer
November 7, 2021 1:43 pm

Offering a better deal is not “shafting”.
Why should Google, Amazon, Aooke abd Facebiij pay taxes if they don’t owe taxes.
There would be no McDonald’s if nobody ate there. Obviously not everyone is as big a snob as you are.

Retired_Engineer_Jim
Reply to  Climate believer
November 7, 2021 1:43 pm

But the French eat in MacDonalds and love Jerry Lewis. And, if you wish to go there, let’s compare the nimber6 of Americans, Brits, and Commonwealth citizens who died on and after 6/6/44.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Richard Page
November 7, 2021 9:29 am

Nope. It does not. The will to power is how it works ultimately, isn’t it?

Retired_Engineer_Jim
Reply to  HotScot
November 7, 2021 1:39 pm

But there was during the slave-trading period.

MarkW
Reply to  HotScot
November 7, 2021 1:40 pm

BTW, there isn’t a British Empire any longer.

Not according to bonbon.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  HotScot
November 8, 2021 12:28 am

“BTW, there isn’t a British Empire any longer.”

That’s because we gave it back!!!

atticman
Reply to  SMC
November 7, 2021 8:00 am

Does the USA get reparations from Britain? Sure, but only once we’ve managed to get them from the Romans. I meaqn, what did they ever do for us?

fretslider
Reply to  SMC
November 7, 2021 8:08 am

does this mean we get to claim reparations from the British Empire?”

When you’ve paid your ‘tea taxes’ we’ll think about it….

SMC
Reply to  fretslider
November 7, 2021 8:40 am

Well, if Tyrant King George had allowed us some representation in parliament, we might not have thrown a bunch of tea overboard in Boston Harbor.

fretslider
Reply to  SMC
November 7, 2021 8:52 am

Dream on

We have Parliamentary dictatorship

It’s representation ie democracy in name only

SMC
Reply to  fretslider
November 7, 2021 8:55 am

Then your argument is moot. 🙂

fretslider
Reply to  SMC
November 7, 2021 8:58 am

And your taxes due…

SMC
Reply to  fretslider
November 7, 2021 9:05 am

Nah, that’s settled. Trial by combat and all that.

fretslider
Reply to  SMC
November 7, 2021 10:11 am

Allied with the French lol

Gunga Din
Reply to  fretslider
November 7, 2021 2:55 pm

That’s the only way the French can win a war.
Sorry!
(Ducking croissants. 😎

Rory Forbes
Reply to  SMC
November 7, 2021 10:43 am

The British Empire was bankrupted to pay for the war against Fascism, while funding the rise of the US. The UK (what was left of the Empire) was still paying off its war debt until 2006. Ironically, only the US and Germany benefited from the war.

MarkW
Reply to  Rory Forbes
November 7, 2021 1:45 pm

You have a mighty strange view of “benefited”.

Right-Handed Shark
Reply to  SMC
November 7, 2021 12:27 pm

If it wasn’t for us Brits, you yanks would be speaking French now. You owe us big time :p

SMC
Reply to  Right-Handed Shark
November 7, 2021 12:50 pm

Heh. The second language in the USA after the revolution, especially in the military, for decades, was French. Then we grew up and figured English was a pretty good language after all. So, we did it all by ourselves. :))

Retired_Engineer_Jim
Reply to  Right-Handed Shark
November 7, 2021 1:45 pm

Merci

Gunga Din
Reply to  Right-Handed Shark
November 7, 2021 3:07 pm

Thank you.
And if it wasn’t for the US, you’d be speaking German.
Of course, if you were speaking German then we might be also.
Or we’d all be speaking Russian?
Overall, I’d say we all came out ahead.
(As long as we don’t end up speaking Swedish!)

Right-Handed Shark
Reply to  Gunga Din
November 7, 2021 5:59 pm

And if wasn’t for the climate change around 6500 years ago that flooded Doggerland, the English language would never have evolved. Small mercies.

roaddog
November 7, 2021 7:44 am

Yawn. The fabricated Doom Pixie. Why am I reminded of AOC?

Robert Hanson
Reply to  roaddog
November 7, 2021 7:59 am

Because the same people supply all of their talking points. Once they get off that script they are quite inarticulate.

fretslider
Reply to  roaddog
November 7, 2021 8:09 am

“Why am I reminded of AOC?”

Any
Old
Crap

Will do

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Leo Smith
Reply to  roaddog
November 7, 2021 8:22 am

Because….

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Ed Zuiderwijk
November 7, 2021 7:50 am

Wot. Not a single thank you for providing the ruling classes over there with those Mercs, Audis and BMWs?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
November 7, 2021 2:22 pm

Ingrates.

Mr.
November 7, 2021 8:12 am

Never thought I’d find myself thinking this way, but maybe turning Greta up to 11 is what will hasten public disinterest in her performances.

She is after all just like that catchy tune / jingle you couldn’t hear enough of at first, but after a while you found yourself hitting the OFF button every time it came on.

Disputin
Reply to  Mr.
November 7, 2021 8:48 am

Just a minor quibble – hasten public disinterest, should be uninterest. Disinterest means impartial.

Mr.
Reply to  Disputin
November 7, 2021 8:59 am

Well, now that I’ve had my morning coffee, you have a point.

But “disinterest” still works to degree.

“Disengagement” would have been a more appropriate term.

H.R.
November 7, 2021 8:14 am

What Nordic country is going to pay the Brits reparations for all the mayhem and destruction from their raids?

And since it was the Vikings who were first on the scene in North America,** shouldn’t their descendants be sent a bill from the U.S. and Canada?




**There is some evidence that Phoenicians were trading for copper in Michigan about 5,000-ish years ago, so perhaps the Vikings are off the hook. There appears to be a lot of Michigan copper in ancient Egyptian artifacts.

Here’s a taste for any geologists and historians here that may have an interest, but there’s a lot more out there if you like the looks of this rabbit hole.

https://greaterancestors.com/great-copper-mines-of-michigan/

Beagle
Reply to  H.R.
November 7, 2021 9:33 am

I’ve been to Norway and I was assured that the vikings were really misunderstood and were only peaceful traders.

H.R.
Reply to  Beagle
November 7, 2021 10:16 am

“Mostly peaceful” raping and pillaging, eh?

Something like our Portland and Seattle demonstrations, except the Vikings probably smelled better than the Pantifa lot. 😜
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Capitalist-DAD
November 7, 2021 8:14 am

Oops! The underlying Marxism crammed into this ignorant little twit is leaking out.

MarkW
Reply to  Capitalist-DAD
November 7, 2021 9:03 am

Leaking? It’s being spewed forth with great gusto.

Leo Smith
November 7, 2021 8:16 am

Sweden owes England for the Vikings, and the Normans..

H.R.
Reply to  Leo Smith
November 7, 2021 8:37 am

Beat ya to it by only 2 minutes, Leo. So great minds, and all that.

But yeah. Cough up some of that cash from your stash, Greta.


“Oh no, no, no. It’s other people who need to pay up. Not me.”

Richard Page
Reply to  Leo Smith
November 7, 2021 8:53 am

The Normans were mostly from Norway. The Danes colonised a lot of the UK though, Norwegians and Swedes were involved in colonizing Scotland and Ireland mainly – although the Swedes also colonised a lot of Russia and eastern Europe as well. Germany and Denmark owe us for the Saxons, Jutes and Angles but we owe France for Brittany. It’s a bit of a mess really when you go back a bit.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Richard Page
November 7, 2021 10:54 am

Even the word ‘Russian’ derives from the Norse word ‘Rus’.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Leo Smith
November 7, 2021 10:52 am

Mmmm … they were the same thing. How do think the Normans got their name?

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Rory Forbes
November 8, 2021 12:54 am

Surely it was a corruption of the word Norseman which became over time, Norman!!! Happily corrected if necessary!!!

Shoki Kaneda
November 7, 2021 8:18 am

Charles MacKay is proven correct every day.

Mr.
Reply to  Shoki Kaneda
November 7, 2021 9:09 am

Yes, his observations from 150 years ago still prove that basic human nature and foibles don’t change – fear, pain, hunger, greed, hate, lust, jealousy, power.

Such are the influences that make us get out of bed each morning.

(and coffee of course)

Michael in Dublin
November 7, 2021 8:40 am

Is North Africa owed reparations for the Roman occupations?

Good luck in tracing who the descendants of those Roman citizens who benefitted are.

Good luck in tracing who the descendants of those North African inhabitants are who were living there when the Romans occupied those areas.

Good luck in putting a monetary value on those colonizations.

Perhaps Rome should also send these North African countries a bill for all the technology and agricultural techniques they introduced to the regions, for the roads and other functional structures erected there, for the structures of government and education.

These activists have an abysmal ignorance of both uncertain science and messy history.

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Krishna Gans
Reply to  Michael in Dublin
November 7, 2021 8:44 am

We may balance too the Arabian occupation of Spain, while the the Arabian transferred medical and pharmaceutical knowledge to Spain and Europe….. 😉

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Rory Forbes
Reply to  Krishna Gans
November 7, 2021 11:01 am

while the the Arabian transferred medical and pharmaceutical knowledge to Spain and Europe

In fact there was very little of that. The Arabs provided very little in the way of medicine, technology or culture. We know most of their “Golden Age” was stolen glory … from the Jews, the Persians and also the Indians. Islam’s contribution was a very large goose egg.

Krishna Gans
Reply to  Rory Forbes
November 7, 2021 1:05 pm

Lot’s of phamacies here are still named “Moren Apotheke”, were the root is Moors Pharmacy.

How Islam changed medicineArab physicians and scholars laid the basis for medical practice in Europe

Islamic civilisation once extended from India in the east to the Atlantic Ocean in the west. Buildings in Andalusia such as the Alhambra in Granada, the Mezquita in Cordoba, and the Giralda in Seville are reminders of the architectural imprint this civilisation left on western Europe. Less well remembered, however, is the impact of Islamic civilisation on Western science, technology, and medicine between the years 800 and 1450. As was argued this month at the Royal Institution, today’s Western world might look very different without the legacy of Muslim scholars in Baghdad, Cairo, Cordoba, and elsewhere

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Krishna Gans
November 7, 2021 2:19 pm

Just for starters, Moors were not Arabs any more than Persians were. The “Golden Age of Islam” is one of the world’s most prevailing myths. By the time Islam had conquered Africa, they had already absorbed the accomplishments of India, the Jews, the Persians and hundreds of other cultures who lost their accomplishments to Islam.

In short, Arabs had no special affinity for medicine, art, engineering or literature. They were conquerors (particularly blood thirsty at that) who subjugated and then stole the cultures of the conquered, calling them their own by converting everyone to Islam on pain of heavy taxation or death. They cleverly renamed important scholars, like Maimonides, with Arabic ( Abū ʿImran Mūsā ibn Maymūn ibn ʿUbayd Allāh).

Islam stole its art and architecture from the Persians, its medicine from the Jews and math and physics from India. Look up “The Myth of the Islamic Golden Age” and start browsing. Our present view of Islam was romanticized by European ‘scholars’ and adventurers like Richard Burton. People are still falsely aggrandizing Islam.

bluecat57
Reply to  Michael in Dublin
November 7, 2021 4:19 pm

I believe the Europeans are owed reparations from the Arab slave traders.

Gary Pearse
November 7, 2021 8:45 am

Poor Greta doesn’t know that the plans the global gov has for former colonies and the poor in the ‘developed world dwarfs the deeds of the 20th Century despots. The count has already started.

Crippling the developed world will have huge consequences for entire human race.

Bill
November 7, 2021 8:59 am

The west? These people are as indigenous to the planet as any other group. The basis of her hate has no basis.

Krishna Gans
Reply to  Bill
November 7, 2021 9:06 am

Doesn’t Greta know, where on the Globe West is ?
No one mentioned Australia ’til now and the Aborigines or Maoris in New Zealnd…
The Brits have to fullfill a deep grasp into their billfold…

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Rudi
November 7, 2021 9:06 am

What the hell is “Climate Debt” ?

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Rudi
November 7, 2021 11:04 am

You get the prize for asking the only meaningful question. That is what we should be discussing, not the relative merits of some uneducated retarded child.

Right-Handed Shark
Reply to  Rudi
November 7, 2021 12:42 pm

Maybe we owe them some nice weather? But this is Britain, and everyone knows we have never had any.

Terry
November 7, 2021 9:07 am

And what is the problem with this. Here in Canada we are paying billions of dollars to aboriginals for trying to give them a modern education over the last 100 years.

MarkW
Reply to  Terry
November 7, 2021 1:50 pm

Biden wants the US to pay illegal aliens $450,000 each to compensate them for being let into the county.

Andy Pattullo
November 7, 2021 9:08 am

Greta Thunderpants emissions are the ones that are doing the most harm. Her and the herd of climate propagandists continually spewing unsubstantiated predictions of doom and flying from place to place to feed the fear. I think litigation is in order. Let’s have them all in court where they can present their “evidence” that what they say is true.

Sunny
November 7, 2021 9:32 am

Lord above, she is only 18, how much longer will she be talking publicly for?

MarkW
Reply to  Sunny
November 7, 2021 1:51 pm

She be talking publicly for the rest of her life. Once some gets used to the limelight they rarely leave it voluntarily.
A better question is, how much longer will anyone pay attention to her?

Jeff Alberts
November 7, 2021 9:49 am

According to Greta rich countries have to pay reparations for the ancestral crime of bringing industry, roads, hospitals, schools and comfort in old age to the world.”

What have the Romans ever done for us??

Krishna Gans
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
November 7, 2021 10:31 am

Cervisia, vinum, just to begin with 😀
Underfloor heating

Michael S. Kelly
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
November 9, 2021 2:24 pm

See the video someone else posted.

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Wade
November 7, 2021 9:53 am

Reparations … Reparations … Reparations
Or, MONEY MONEY MONEY!!!

One thing I notice missing from the CAGW debate is nowhere is greater liberty and freedom is talked about and greater wealth for everyone, only reductions in it. Reparations are nothing more than asking someone not responsible to pay for something they had no control over. In others, wealth transfer from people with money, to people who have much more than you ever will. Because we already know that the people pushing reparations will get the majority of the money.

Olen
November 7, 2021 10:04 am

“Crises based on the idea that some people are worth more than others and therefore have the right to exploit others and steal their land and resources.”

Do a people who were not alive owe others who were not alive, anything that happened before especially when many of the ones presumed to be owed have migrated to the countries claimed to owe?

If they do owe should they take back the infrastructure and other benefits left there. Of course not, it’s all nonsense and so is the climate claim.

MarkW
Reply to  Olen
November 7, 2021 1:53 pm

Anyone who was a slave is entitled to be compensated by the person who held them in slavery.

Gordon A. Dressler
November 7, 2021 10:30 am

In response, I would say this to Greta Thunberg:

“Dear Greta, I’m sure you missed this lesson in grade school because you were out leading protests instead of acquiring knowledge about the real world and its history, but it is a fact that the India-Pakistan subcontinent was a British colony from 1858 to 1947.

And that India and Pakistan are located north of the equator; that is, in the “Global North”.

So why are you actively discriminating against former colonies in the “Global North” as compared to those in the “Global South”???

You do know what the term “discrimination” means, don’t you?”

Stephen Skinner
Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
November 8, 2021 8:42 am

She missed just the one lesson?

Thomas Gasloli
November 7, 2021 11:09 am

Why do they keep referring to her as a “teen activist”? She is not a teenager. She is just immature.

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  Thomas Gasloli
November 8, 2021 1:15 pm

“She is not a teenager.” 

Her age is currently eighteen.

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Doonman
November 7, 2021 11:25 am

Greta sure gets a lot of heat for being a cultist.

R.T.Dee
Reply to  Doonman
November 7, 2021 11:30 am

@ Mr. Worral,
Please stop wasting space on this ignorant Swedish girl.

MarkW
Reply to  R.T.Dee
November 7, 2021 1:54 pm

You are free to not read any article that you don’t want to.

a happy little debunker
November 7, 2021 12:07 pm

Captain James Kirk can only respond to the children with…

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Gunga Din
November 7, 2021 12:49 pm

“Global South”? “Global North”?
Where in the “H” did those terms come from?
Goebbels?

Geoffrey Williams
November 7, 2021 1:15 pm

There’s a good old fashioned name for people like greta it’s called ‘anarchist ‘.

MarkW
Reply to  Geoffrey Williams
November 7, 2021 1:55 pm

Greta doesn’t want there to be no government.
She wants just the opposite. She wants an all powerful government that is run by people like herself, so that she can force the rest of the world to live as she wants them to.

November 7, 2021 1:17 pm

This is incredibly stupid! This argument has been central to the UNFCCC process since 1992. Greta did not invent it. Most developing countries have long espoused it. Is your understanding of the battle that shallow?

Jock
November 7, 2021 1:59 pm

It reminds me of Monty python. What have the Romans ever done for us?

goldminor
Reply to  Jock
November 7, 2021 2:30 pm

Makes me wonder about her grades from her history classes, assuming that she was taught some history. She should have stayed in school.

Kip Hansen(@kiphansen2)
Editor
November 7, 2021 3:28 pm

Oh Boy! The UK can pay for Biden’s Crazed Climate Plan in the US! The United States is a Former Colony! Louisiana can bill France! Alaska can try to send bills to Putin in Russia!

Oh what fun…..

Poor Spain — it will have to fund all of Central and South America AND the whole of the drought stricken US Southwest, I suggest that Spain could make a deal to forgo any payment to the US and just take California back — I’d support that.

Kip Hansen(@kiphansen2)
Editor
Reply to  Kip Hansen
November 7, 2021 3:33 pm

Oh, I forgot, little Grettle dropped out of school.. . . . .

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Kip Hansen
November 8, 2021 3:00 am

In the words of Pink Floyd, “She don’t need no educashun!”

Kip Hansen(@kiphansen2)
Editor
Reply to  Alan the Brit
November 9, 2021 10:43 am

Brit ==> and can I add the unnecessary and “can’t get no…. statis-faction”.

Gunga Din
Reply to  Kip Hansen
November 7, 2021 3:43 pm

Maybe the Dutch will take back “New Amerstdam“?

Gunga Din
Reply to  Gunga Din
November 7, 2021 3:44 pm

(It’s not worth a hill of beads anymore.

MarkW
Reply to  Gunga Din
November 8, 2021 6:54 am

We could sell of what’s in the various museums for a pretty penny.

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  MarkW
November 8, 2021 5:09 pm

Or a tulip or two.

ronk
Reply to  Kip Hansen
November 8, 2021 2:35 am

just a small correction, a good chunk of south America is not Spanish never was, see Brazil, once a Portugal colony, second Russia had fur trading outpost in around san Francisco, Catherine the great could not afford a war with spain so she let it go

Gunga Din
Reply to  ronk
November 8, 2021 3:24 pm

I’d say the CCCP already has San Francisco along with Sacramento!

Kip Hansen(@kiphansen2)
Editor
Reply to  ronk
November 9, 2021 7:58 am

ronk ==> Spain and Portugal have not always been separate nations, and not always even nations. They share the Iberian Peninsula and have been off and on over historical times united by shared dynasties of rulers….for many years, the Moors and Berbers of North Africa.

Portugal finally became a separate kingdom in about 1200, as part of the reconquest of the Iberian Peninsula by armies supported by France and Christian rulers of what is now northern Spain.

In an astonishing exhibition of hubris, the Treaty of Tordesillas was ratified by the Crown of Castile and the King of Portugal in 1494, which “divided the newly discovered lands outside of Europe into two equal halves, the east side belonging to Portugal, and the west to Castile (later to become part of Spain). “

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Gunga Din
Reply to  Kip Hansen
November 9, 2021 3:49 pm

And, if I’m not mistaken, it was the Pope divided South America between the Spanish and the Portuguese.
(What is basically now Brazil to Portugal and the rest to Spain.)

Kip Hansen(@kiphansen2)
Editor
Reply to  Gunga Din
November 9, 2021 5:35 pm

Gunga ==> Yes, sort of — it was the Treaty of Tordesillas — between brokered by the Pope between Portugal (then a still fairly new kingdom) and Castile (there was not yet a nation called Spain).

bluecat57
November 7, 2021 4:18 pm

Does that include America and Canada? I’ll take mine in gold and silver. Oh, wait, you stole all that from us to start with.

Loren Wilson
November 7, 2021 5:04 pm

Texas is a former colony of Spain and Mexico (and France for five years). Please send us money.

Craig from Oz
November 7, 2021 5:11 pm

Given the wide spread oppression and violence inflicted by the ‘Scandinavian’ countries onto the population I feel we need to see people like Greta PERSONALLY apologise for the Dane-Geld and then PERSONALLY start paying it back.

Repay or Retire you selfish little restraint on society.

D Cage
November 7, 2021 9:46 pm

Can I send them the bill for our family where the Corsair pirates took my ancestor as a slave and reduced our family from wealthy land owners in the west country to being shepherds in Cambridge?

Dean
November 7, 2021 11:02 pm

Yes I am an oppressed Southerner. Send me money.

Redge
November 7, 2021 11:14 pm

as a resident of a former colony of the “global south”, “

Weren’t your ancestors sent there on one of our luxury liners?

🤣

DAZ777
November 7, 2021 11:45 pm

This troubled, ignorant child should be ignored. She has zero grasp of science. Or reality. She is a brainwashed tool. Why does anyone grant her a platform to spew nonsense?

bonbon
November 8, 2021 5:19 am

Not known if Greta has a clue about this :
The Spider’s Web: Britain’s Second Empire by Nicholas Shaxson (best selling author and former FT journalist) :

the financial thrust is direct in-your-face, as they are sure the distractions work.

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Michael Nagy
November 8, 2021 7:25 am

I have often wondered how much Greta gets for appearing at the COPP. Thousands? And I really wish she had the experience of living without electricity or running water for a while. She might actually smarten up.

Caligula Jones
November 8, 2021 7:54 am

Sure, you brat.

For starters, I’ll take some of the geedus you rip off from dumb kids and companies for compensation for YOUR people colonizing MY people.

Signed,
Victim of Viking Raids

Caligula Jones
November 8, 2021 7:57 am

https://genius.com/Monty-python-what-have-the-romans-ever-done-for-us-annotated

Of course, if we left them in the Stone Age…they’d sue us for that too…

Stephen Skinner
November 8, 2021 8:10 am

I read an Indian nationalist asserting that the UK took coal from India back to the UK. Of course they did, after all, what better economics is there than to dig coal out of the ground halfway round the planet and transport it back to a country where abundant coal can be dug out of the ground right next to where it’s needed.
It’s worth noting that where-ever there is complaining about colonialism you will find The Morning Star, China Daily and usually Russian military hardware including the AK47. I wonder what the people of Tibet, Poland, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, the Baltic states, Romania, Bulgaria (for example) think of colonialism?

Tenuc
November 8, 2021 11:33 am

Wow, the picture at the top of the article is the most flattering I’ve seen. Can’t be real!

Did you know that her name is an anagram of Green Brat Thug, very apt I think.

huls
November 8, 2021 11:45 am

And all former colonized countries, regions and localities shall immediately seize the usage of all inventions of the white men. It is henceforth forbidden to use any form of electricity, sanitation, fiat currency, logical reasoning on penalty of being declared a cultural appropriator. The punishment for which is ridicule by stone-age half-apes and little Swedish girls that did not finish school

Rhee
November 8, 2021 12:40 pm

Isn’t the United States a collection of former colonies of Europe? Does that imply we “owe it to ourselves” rather than to every other nation on earth… hmmm?

Gunga Din
Reply to  Rhee
November 8, 2021 3:42 pm

NO NO NO!
The manta is that it has to be “somebody” ELSE owes “us”, today for what “we” never worked for today!
“We owe it to ourselves” is too close to being “We are responsible for ourselves” for the reparations grifters comfort.

spock
November 8, 2021 6:47 pm

The Gretamonster is back…run for your lives!

Andy H
November 9, 2021 1:58 am

Perhaps Greta can pay some of her millions to the descendent of slaves at Saint Barthelemy, which Sweden used to own. Their colonies first parson was a certain Sven Thunberg. Any relation?

Gunga Din
November 9, 2021 4:20 pm

This whole “reparations” reminds me of AIM (American Indian Movement).
They demanded that the entire US be returned to them.
I asked once, “Which tribe gets Georgia? The Shawnee lived in Georgia until they were driven out by the Cherokee. Some other tribe drove the Cherokee into Tennessee. The Shawnee ended up in Ohio. Pennecook New Hampshire was named after a tribe that was wiped out by another tribe. Which tribe gets Pennecook?”
(That’s not an exact quote. I said it 20 or so years ago but it is the gist.)
I never got a real answer. The AIM supporters refused to admit that they were as divided as any other “race” on the face of the Earth.

Bottom line, you can dwell on how someone has told you that your ancestors’ (sometimes ancient) past is responsible for your present and all those long dead people “owe you”; or you can build your own future despite your present.

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