Vijay Jayaraj: Coal Shortages Threaten Blackouts for 2.7 Billion Chinese and Indians

Reposted from REACTIONARY TIMES

By: Vijay Jayaraj

Coal shortages have struck two of the world’s biggest energy consumers, threatening power outages for 2.7 billion people and raising prices for the fossil fuel to unprecedented levels. In China, factories are shut, homes remain in darkness, and chaos ensues on roads where traffic lights fail. Coal plants that supply neighboring India with 70% of its electricity are on the brink of running out of fuel, triggering an emergency call to the government for assistance.

China’s Guangdong Province has been experiencing regular blackouts, directly  affecting a manufacturing hub that contributes around 10% of China’s annual economic output. Some industries, despite a demand for their products, have lost as much as 50% of production in recent months.

“Power restrictions are likely to continue until March next year, and residents should prepare for water cuts to become normal,” said Guangdong media. Provincial energy regulators issued an advisory with the following guidance: “office workers to use stairs for the first three floors, shopping malls to keep advertising signs on fewer hours, and for homes to use natural light as much as possible and to keep air conditioners above 26 degrees Celsius.”

In all, 17 provinces — including the industrial centers of Jiangsu, Zhejiang and Shaanxi — rationed power this year. Last week, Northern Chinese provinces of Liaoning, Jilin and Heilongjiang suffered blackouts, with cuts to traffic lights wreaking havoc on roads during rush hour in at least one major city.

More provinces are planning power cuts. Some factories were notified that they won’t receive electricity until mid-October. “The power reductions surely had an impact on us, said a factory owner in Jiangsu Province. “Production has been halted, orders are suspended, and all our 500 workers are off on a month-long holiday,”

Many companies have been forced to shut for a few days a week, and the situation is expected to remain the same until 2022 as utilities are finding it difficult to procure coal for the winter.

Analysts say that major contributors to this shortage are China’s restrictions on coal use, the higher coal price, and the post-pandemic increase in electricity demand. “China’s coalprices surged to a record high last week,” says Stephen Stapczynski, Bloomberg’s energy and commodities reporter in Singapore. “That, combined with strong demand from industry-led rebound from the pandemic, continue to push coal prices higher.”

Meanwhile, India’s coal inventories hit a three-year low.  “Coal’s price surge could also mean a shortage in India. Load on facilities fed with domestic coal has jumped, while demand is accelerating. Inventories are diminishing quickly, putting a rising number of plants at risk of shutdown,” says Stapczynski.

Largely underdeveloped until recently. India’s power sector was able to meet electricity demand only in 2017, thanks to a large increase in coal production and imports since the 2000s. During 1990s and 2010s power was heavily rationed, and blackouts were part of life. Now, more than a billion people stare at a similar situation after an SOS from coal plants and the aluminum industry revealed a severe coal shortage.

Unlike China, India has no restrictions on coal mining or coal imports. Although rainy weather currently hampers mining operations, coal production is expected to increase.

Nevertheless, rising coal prices will cause headaches that likely will worsen with the approaching winter, when China burns the highest amount of the fuel. So far in 2021, global coalprices have registered a 249% increase over last year.

Coal Price Surge, 27 September 2021. Source: Trading Economics

The 2021 energy scare probably will have a long-lasting influence on domestic energy policies. A few years ago, China relaxed its coal ban after a severe winter left thousands helpless in its North. Similarly, India issued coal mining rights in its Northeast province to boost coal production after years of inactivity.

Europeans are being warned that they could be next as natural gas prices skyrocket and shortages are forecast for winter. Last month, the U.K. scrambled to increase power generation from natural gas- and coal-fired plants when wind turbines failed. This week, commuters in England were left immobile after a sudden shortage in petrol and diesel forced many gas stations to close and created hours-long queues at those that were open. The British prime minister even contemplated calling on the Army to maintain order at stations. If European leaders fail to act, more of the same can be expected this winter, particularly in countries heavily dependent on unreliable wind and solar energy.

Asia’s and Europe’s energy crisis is a stern warning to politicians who advocate replacing coal, oil and natural gas with more expensive and intermittent wind and solar — a switch that is a proven recipe for chaos and misery.

Vijay Jayaraj is a Contributing Writer to the CO2 Coalition, Arlington, Va., and holds a masters degree in environmental sciences from the University of East Anglia, England. He resides in Bengaluru, India.

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gbaikie
October 13, 2021 10:15 pm

All energy shortages work in a country’s favor with COP26.
What countries without such as claimed energy shortages going to say.
It’s a little too on the nose, but it should work. 

n.n
Reply to  gbaikie
October 14, 2021 5:24 am

Carbon-based bogeyman… woman, whatever, national privilege, “developing” nations, and redistributive change.

RickWill
October 13, 2021 10:22 pm

Australia has invested heavily in random energy production over the last two decades. In excess of AUD50bn to achieve 0.6% of Australia’s energy output from intermittent sources. So at that rate, it will take 3,300 years to get 100% from random energy.

I think all the coal will be gone by then. It is apparent that there needs to be a more fruitful approach. Random energy does not fit well with industrialised world.

If you doubt the figures you can find them in Australia’s latest energy report:
Total energy produced 19,711PJ
Wind 63PJ
Solar (PV + direct water heating) 61PJ
It is not an encouraging tale. Apparent there has been AUD35bn spend on RE since 2017 so the AUD50bn is likely on the low side.

Retired_Engineer_Jim
Reply to  RickWill
October 13, 2021 10:42 pm

It might be that the folks opposed to inexpensive, reliable, available energy are also opposed to the “industrialized world”. So, they get a twofer.

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  Retired_Engineer_Jim
October 14, 2021 2:16 am

And shame on them! Humans are enjoying the best of all worlds right now thanks to technology, abundant energy, and lack of massive ice sheets! Only truly evil people want to take that away. There are still some remote area on Earth that are difficult for life, these Grinches can be transported to anyone of them and allowed to live the life they claim to desire.

n.n
Reply to  Retired_Engineer_Jim
October 14, 2021 5:31 am

Clean… in our backyard. A Green gauntlet for our feathered “burdens”. Redistributive change and lowered expectations. NOW, get out of our House.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  RickWill
October 14, 2021 12:06 am

So at that rate, it will take 3,300 years to get 100% from random energy.

You are not factoring in the need for:
+100% existing capacity to allow for EVs
+50% existing capacity to allow for electrical replacement of all gas hot water and heating

So you need 250% of existing capacity.

Then you need to factor in the fact that unreliables work for 25% of the time.

So you need 1000% capacity (10x)

Then you need to factor in for the fact that you may get up to 5 days of no electricity.

So you need 50x existing reliable capacity.

Then you need 5 days’ of storage for all the existing capacity. That’s 120 GWh of storage for every GW of existing capacity.

I think it’s more like 165,000 years, plus turning most of the outback into batteries.

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RickWill
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
October 14, 2021 1:58 pm

I factored in transport and industrial uses as well as the fact that Australia produces 3 times more energy than it uses and currently gets paid very handsomely for the exported energy, most in the form of gas and coal.

fretslider
Reply to  RickWill
October 14, 2021 12:43 am

“ Wind and solar, these energies are not renewable, they are intermittent. If I am elected, I will put a stop to all construction of new wind parks and I will launch a big project to dismantle them, – Marine Le Pen

Derg
Reply to  RickWill
October 14, 2021 1:07 am

Does Australia have nuclear power? Are they building any new nuclear power plants?

Reply to  Derg
October 14, 2021 1:55 am

Australia is nearly as anti-nuclear as New Zealand.
I think they mine uranium though

Dsystem
Reply to  Derg
October 14, 2021 2:52 am

Australia has 1 nuclear reactor for research and production of medical isotopes. Australia has a third of the world’s reserves of uranium and exports it to many countries. Australia has huge reserves of coal which it, for the moment, uses to generate cheap reliable electricity.

Jealous people in some countries, ignorant people and greenies are trying to strip Australia (3% of the world’s CO2 emissions) of this fortunate position. Some Australian states have succumbed to worldwide pressure by cancelling coal fired power stations and have had power blackouts and increased prices as a result – what more does the world want?

Australia could easily use nuclear power but it’s not politically viable. Australia won’t be able to use or even export coal, so Australia is relegated to the dustbin of poverty and expensive, unreliable renewables because the rest of the world demands it.

Ron Long
Reply to  Dsystem
October 14, 2021 3:38 am

Dsystem, you have presented the perfect reason that we should stop calling them “blackouts” and start using GREENOUTS instead. Thank you.

Sommer
Reply to  Ron Long
October 14, 2021 10:08 am

Tell that to Clark Williams-Derry, a writer for the Institute for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis. He says, “Volatility highlights urgency for renewables-based energy solutions”

IEEFA: Spiking coal prices: Don’t blame the energy transition

https://ieefa.org/ieefa-spiking-coal-prices-dont-blame-the-energy-transition/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=ieefa-spiking-coal-prices-dont-blame-the-energy-transition

bonbon
Reply to  Dsystem
October 14, 2021 4:40 am

Australia will soon have nuclear power, although US nuclear powered subs. US firms will invade to build and maintain those, Aussies not needed. AUKUS in action.
Has Australia signed the NPT? I’ll bet Aussie Uranium will be processed in the USA and shipped, or subbed, back every few months….

Meanwhile France who were retrofitting nuclear powered subs for diesel, lost the contract, and will now include small reactors as part of it’s energy plan :
https://www.reuters.com/business/sustainable-business/macron-says-france-have-mini-nuclear-reactor-green-hydrogen-plants-by-2030-2021-10-12/

Vive la France, mais la France libre!

ATheoK
Reply to  bonbon
October 14, 2021 5:19 pm

although US nuclear powered subs. US firms will invade to build and maintain those”

Speculate much?
American subs are built by civilians, not the navy.

It all depends on whatever Australia demanded in their contracts.

Even if Australia turns all construction, repairs and maintenance over to the USA. Construction is likely to be in one of America’s nuclear submarine base yards.

Delivery to Australia turns the boat over to Australia and whatever supporting systems they contracted/contract for.

Repairs and maintenance, are different. Even if those actions occur in USA controlled yards, be assured that America is not going to strip USA bases of nuclear sub experts, mechanics, plumbers, operators, welders, machinists, etc. etc.; just to send them to Australia.

Instead, they will contract out the services just as they do in America. It will be the contractor’s responsibility to find qualified employees near where the repairs and maintenance is performed.

If Australia refused modifying/maintaining their new subs, Australian nuclear sub operators and sailors might need to get used to long periods stationed on Diego Garcia while waiting for their sub to be maintained.

Dennis
Reply to  Dsystem
October 14, 2021 4:58 am

Meanwhile the economy of China is quickly catching up to the US economy but China is according to the UN a developing nation so they continue to construct hundreds of coal fired power stations.

China emissions are over 30 per cent of the world’s emissions.

John Tyrrell
Reply to  Derg
October 14, 2021 2:53 am

Australian uranium makes up one fifth of world uranium production. Australia has no nuclear power. A recent poll shows a majority of Australians support a nuclear industry.
Australia’s uranium – Parliament of Australia (aph.gov.au)

Reply to  Derg
October 14, 2021 4:09 am

Coincidentally I read this article on Australian nuclear power.
The short answer is ‘not yet, but its being aired’

Yooper
Reply to  Leo Smith
October 14, 2021 4:42 am

Yeah, for now the only new Australian nuclear plants are going to be underwater….

Dennis
Reply to  Derg
October 14, 2021 4:56 am

Australia has one nuclear reactor located near Sydney NSW at Lucas Heights, this small reactor produces radio isotopes for medical and commercial applications and has been safely operating since the early 1950s.

Following a Federal Government investigation into nuclear energy and in particular the potential of small modular units spread around the nation however, around 2005 the Parliament voted to ban nuclear energy but exempted the Luca Heights reactor.

There is also a movement in politics that refuses to allow new uranium mining ventures despite the substantial reserve deposits identified so far.

The recent decision to purchase nuclear submarines supported by the US and the UK however has not been opposed by the political parties apart from Greens.

M Courtney
October 14, 2021 12:06 am

The UK PM did call on the army to drive tankers as the root cause of the UK’s petrol problem is a loss of HGV drivers. They went home to the EU for Covid and can’t come back because the UK PM failed to get Brexit done.

Petrol shortages in the UK had nothing to do with the global energy crunch.

And no troops were ever being sent to keep order. It was just to replace the lost labour force.

fretslider
Reply to  M Courtney
October 14, 2021 12:20 am

Much of the blame lies with The Road Haulage Association

griff
Reply to  fretslider
October 14, 2021 12:25 am

Who are on record as warning the govt over the issue in 2015, before Brexit and again in June this year…

fretslider
Reply to  griff
October 14, 2021 12:29 am

Now try telling us the real reason – why did Europa Logistics quit?

It doesn't add up...
Reply to  fretslider
October 14, 2021 5:03 pm

No, it lies with the irresponsible press, including the BBC, who hyped a small local problem into a national panic buying event.

Mikehig
Reply to  M Courtney
October 14, 2021 1:31 am

“They went home to the EU for Covid and can’t come back because the UK PM failed to get Brexit done.”
Reportedly that accounts for only 14,000 out of the 100,000 shortfall. There have been warnings for years about an increasing shortage of drivers due to retirements, the growth in local delivery fleets, etc..
If the haulage industry had taken on board years ago the need for better pay and working conditions to attract and retain drivers things would not have got this bad.

It doesn't add up...
Reply to  Mikehig
October 14, 2021 5:07 pm

I doubt that many tanker drivers are from the EU. It’s a specialised job, requiring extra training. You don’t switch from driving HGV containers to tankers. It seems likely that some tanker drivers got tempted by some better offers from e.g. supermarkets – the switch in the other direction is easy to make.

Martin
Reply to  M Courtney
October 14, 2021 2:49 am

The petrol shortage was triggered by the “green initiative” of introducing E10 blend petrol – ie petrol diluted with ethanol. Fuel retailers drained their tanks of unleaded petrol ready to receive the new formula stuff and were unable to get deliveries of the new stuff fast enough – this is the actual root cause of the recent shortages

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M Courtney
Reply to  Martin
October 14, 2021 4:01 am

That is a partial reason. But they couldn’t get the deliveries in time because they couldn’t get the drivers.
Brexit was meant to be about controlled immigration rather than a free-for-all. But we haven’t got controlled immigration. We’ve got no immigration because the Government cannot get organised in time.

MarkW2
Reply to  M Courtney
October 14, 2021 10:05 am

No, this WAS the reason. Had this green initiative not happened there’d have been no problem. It’s the law of unintended consequences, which is now revealing itself to the environmentalists very loudly indeed.

I wonder if it never occurs to environmentalists that we’d all love to be able to live using renewable energy but the physics and economics just don’t add up. Yet as soon as you point this out you’re immediately branded a heretic who doesn’t care about the world. Ridiculous.

It doesn't add up...
Reply to  Martin
October 14, 2021 5:14 pm

It’s myth. The switch to E10 had already happened by the time the panic buying started. E10 will have led to a small increase in delivery volumes because of its lower fuel economy, but as petrol is less than half of fuel sales it would be indistinguishable from demand recovery post lockdown. This chart puts the levels of deliveries in context:

https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/amcBl/1/

Tom Abbott
Reply to  M Courtney
October 14, 2021 8:16 am

“The UK PM did call on the army to drive tankers as the root cause of the UK’s petrol problem is a loss of HGV drivers.”

Biden ought to be doing the same thing in the U.S. if a lack of truck drivers is the bottleneck in the supply chain. There are plenty of people in the National Guard and Regular Military who are qualified to drive a truck. Biden should put them to work moving cargo off the docks and to their destinations.

Fran
Reply to  M Courtney
October 14, 2021 1:26 pm

According to the Daily Mail, part of the problem is the slow processing of licences by the motor vehicles lot. They cannot process hard copy medical forms and suchlike “working from home” AND they are threatening to strike if forced back to the office.

It doesn't add up...
Reply to  M Courtney
October 14, 2021 5:02 pm

The numbers of tanker drivers were adequate to maintaining supplies in normal circumstances. The switchover to E10 fuel had already taken place at the beginning of September, and had not resulted in any major problems beyond motorists irate at the reduced fuel economy. Large sites (supermarkets, motorway services) get through a tankerload of fuel a day or more. Medium sites will take 2-3 tankers a week. Stock turnover is rapid.

The whole event was triggered by reports over local problems which were probably caused by the loss of a few drivers at a particular depot being reported in the press in an exaggerated fashion. That soon provoked panic buying. The maths are simple. On average a driver goes through a tankful of fuel about every three weeks. On average a petrol tank is probably slightly less than half full. Create panic buying, and you condense 10 days of normal buying into immediate demand. No delivery system has slack to accommodate that, so you immediately start seeing more stations running out, fueling the panic buying and leaving the demand for full tanks and extra jerru cans unsatisfied. Fuel pumps can deliver fuel rapidly – a convenience for drivers who can get a tankful in a couple of minutes. But have all the pumps in constant use and it doesn’t take long to empty the site storage.

Even increasing deliveries by 20% through cutting back on deliveries elsewhere, you are going to end up with many days of apparent shortages at petrol stations while everyone is trying to make sure their tanks are full. Meanwhile the tanks at distribution depots and refineries hold 30 days’ supply of fuel, with another 30 days as crude oil to be refined. Only when some sanity returns to buying patterns do things resolve.

fretslider
October 14, 2021 12:19 am

Why aren’t they using white wine and cheese?

Klem
Reply to  fretslider
October 14, 2021 12:56 am

“Cuz white wine is racist, of course.

ATheoK
Reply to  Klem
October 14, 2021 5:25 pm

Never heard a grape complain…

griff
October 14, 2021 12:23 am

This shortage has not been caused by renewables and there is no shortage of renewables…

This is a fossil fuel problem – which would have occurred in a 100% fossil fuel economy.

Thank goodness India has so much solar power…!

(a major use for electricity in rural India is pumping water for irrigation: this is an ideal application for solar power -no ‘intermittency issues)

Bill Toland
Reply to  griff
October 14, 2021 12:43 am

Griff, solar power makes up less than 1% of total energy use in India.

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Bruce Cobb
Reply to  griff
October 14, 2021 2:17 am

Delusional as ever, Griffie-poo. The shortage is in fact directly a result of the idiotic attempt to replace affordable, plentiful, and reliable energy with laughable, unaffordable, and unreliable energy. energy.

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  griff
October 14, 2021 2:21 am

Windmills work better for pumping water than solar, have worked pretty well for hundreds of years. It is relying on them for ELECTRICITY that is a bad idea!

Reply to  Pamela Matlack-Klein
October 14, 2021 4:24 am

They are rubbish at pumping water as well.

On the East Anglian fens, we have what the Dutch call Polders – squares of land surrounded by ‘drains’ that drain them – and then the water is pumped up into the rivers that are anything up to 20 feet above the ground level.

Originally drained with windmills – and that was about one windmill per polder, as soon as steam engines came along, they were replaced with just the one engine that could drain up to 100 polders or more. Coal was brought in by the same rivers the pumping engines pumped into.

in the early to mid part of the 20th century these were replaced by diesels, and now they are all low maintenance electric pumps.

All this done not to ‘generate green jobs’ but simply to drain the Fens as quickly and as cheaply and as reliably as possible.

In short the worst possible way to pump water, is a windmill

stretham-steam-engine.jpg
Dennis
Reply to  Leo Smith
October 14, 2021 5:06 am

Commercial sailing ships didn’t last long once steam engines were available.

It was said that a sailing ship without a good captain would forever sail into the wind and get nowhere. But for steam powered ships wind is mostly not a problem.

ATheoK
Reply to  Dennis
October 14, 2021 5:54 pm

Not until steam engines could consistently move cargo cheaply and faster than sailing ships could. The heyday of Clipper and windjammer ships was during steam driven shipping.

The windjammer was used specifically to carry cargo like timber, food grains and organic fertilisers across continents. The uniqueness of these tall ships was the sails that were used to propel them in the water.

The ship mast had anywhere between three to five sails. Also these sails unlike the conventional ones of that time were square-shaped which meant that the ship was afforded a better movement in the water. This factor helped these ships to maintain their presence even in the mid-20th century (1950) when the steam engine-propelled ships started to gain momentum and popularity.”

Bryan A
Reply to  Leo Smith
October 14, 2021 5:48 am

Windmills are great for milling grain which is where their name comes from

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  Bryan A
October 14, 2021 7:49 am

But water mills are better, more reliable as long as the stream and mill pond are permanent.

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  Leo Smith
October 14, 2021 7:48 am

Yes, for most cases windmills are worthless but if it is all you have beats lugging it by hand to water livestock.

ATheoK
Reply to  Leo Smith
October 14, 2021 5:37 pm

That is because pumping water up to the drainage system is a critical function. Critical functions are always moved to the most dependable producers of work.

Out in the American west, windmills are used to fill range tanks for stock watering.

Often these windmills are creaky slow kluged constructions made from automobile and junkyard parts. But, they keep the tanks filled with water.

Overflow is prevented by shutoff floats and valves. The windmill continues as long as there is wind.

Dennis
Reply to  griff
October 14, 2021 5:04 am

Unreliable Energy

* Wind Turbines with a Capacity Factor or average output of around 30% – 100 MW nameplate but on average deliver 30 MW each unit.

* Solar with even less Capacity Factor of around 20% – 100 MW nameplate but on average deliver 20 MW.

* Add expensive back up generators and batteries, and feeder transmission lines from installations to the grid.

If the intermittent unreliables were cost effective and delivered nameplate design capacity 24 hours a day like power stations do then India and other developing nations would not need power stations.

MarkW
Reply to  griff
October 14, 2021 8:38 am

Every day, griff reaches new heights of hypocrisy.
He and his fellow travellers have done everything in their power to make it impossible to mine, or use coal or natural gas.

Then when there is a shortage of coal or natural gas, they whine, don’t blame us. It’s the fossil fuel industries fault.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  griff
October 14, 2021 9:46 am

India is increasing coal production.

TonyG
Reply to  griff
October 14, 2021 11:04 am

I’m just curious, griff – what would it take for you to change your dug-in position on solar and wind?

John
Reply to  griff
October 14, 2021 6:29 pm

you are a xxxxx the problem occurred because idiots in the green world have focused on forcing unreliable energy and stopped reliable energy projects through ill informed radicals like extinction rebellion

andic
October 14, 2021 12:24 am

Since the week long national holiday, things have been back to normal in Anhui and suppliers in Jiangsu are also back at work. We have been warned that we may have restrictions again but this week we have been melting as usual. A lot is being made of the power shortages; they’re an opportunity for laughing at China and for pointing out the importance of coal. But from where am its been a bit of a storm in a teacup

Tom Abbott
Reply to  andic
October 14, 2021 9:51 am

Thanks for the persepctive.

It appears China’s leaders are not the only ones who have failed to plan for the future. The whole world seems to be involved to one degree or another.

This is seriously bad planning. A lack of foresight that is breathtaking in its scope.

griff
October 14, 2021 12:30 am

Last month, the U.K. scrambled to increase power generation from natural gas- and coal-fired plants when wind turbines failed.

THEY DID NOT!

The UK grid accurately forecasts wind availability and has a well ordered capacity to ramp gas up and down.

coal is largely irrelevant to UK electricity: it supplied only 2% of UK electric power over the last 2 years.

Coal plant was switched on after 55 days of no coal on the grid whatever when unplanned maintenance was required at a number of nuclear plants (So the Daily Telegraph tells me).

we had a few days of lower wind power: since when we’ve had more with high wind power. Nothing unusual.

There is/was plenty of petrol – just not enough drivers, followed by panic buying.

AT NO POINT WAS THE ARMY CONSIDERED FOR ‘KEEPING ORDER’ – just as extra drivers. I think the author needs to correct that statement.

the main issue in the UK is expensive fossil fuel price…

fretslider
Reply to  griff
October 14, 2021 12:35 am

Stop parroting the Grauniad

It’s bolleaux

LdB
Reply to  griff
October 14, 2021 2:28 am

Well ban fossil fuels that should solve the problem 🙂

Bill Toland
Reply to  LdB
October 14, 2021 3:03 am

Unfortunately, the British government and greens want fossil fuels to be banned by 2050. What could possibly go wrong?

Alba
Reply to  griff
October 14, 2021 3:03 am

griff,
Prices rise when demand exceeds supply. Can you tell us why the supply of coal has not kept up with the demand?
As I am sure you are aware, the UK is not in any position to replace fossil fuels in the near future. As I am sure you do not wish consumers (in China and India as well as in the UK) to have to pay much higher prices for their electricity can you tell us what measures you think are necessary to bring down the prices of gas and coal?

ATheoK
Reply to  Alba
October 14, 2021 6:04 pm

Not to overlook that all fossil fueled components for solar and wind energy will have much higher prices caused by the price spikes for fossil fuels.

Especially since alleged renewable energy sources are unable to supply base components for or manufacture any of the components for wind turbines or solar arrays.

Reply to  griff
October 14, 2021 3:36 am

I think you have to correct your comment.
Si tacuisses philosophus manisses.

Bill Toland
Reply to  Krishna Gans
October 14, 2021 3:52 am

The modern equivalent is “Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than speak and remove all doubt”.

ResourceGuy
Reply to  griff
October 14, 2021 8:42 am
ResourceGuy
Reply to  griff
October 14, 2021 8:46 am

Better adjust those blinders and keep them on tight…..

U.K. Energy Crisis Worsens as Middleman’s Exit Reverberates (yahoo.com)

Janice Moore
Reply to  griff
October 14, 2021 12:21 pm

“….THEY DID NOT!”

Heh.

So, the author gave the UK government more credit for being informed and prudent than it actually is…..

It doesn't add up...
Reply to  griff
October 14, 2021 5:29 pm

You may think the forecasts are good. Here’s the actual performance from 2016, when there was about 8GW of metered wind being forecast. I’m not wowed by it, and the forecasts evaluated are only up to 48 hours in advance. The longer term ones are much worse. I can’t get a historic version of the 2-52 week forecast made in say mid August immediately, but if you look at the current one we can see how they do in practice.

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Dennis
October 14, 2021 4:44 am

It took a decade or more for the Adani Coal Mine in Queensland, Australia to start operating as it did not long ago. The mine is substantially owned by shareholders from India who told the environment courts how badly India needs reliable coal supplies to provide existing consumers with electricity and to extend the grid network for people who have no access.

The leftists have been opposing new mines regardless of the mineral to be extracted for decades in Australia adding to the costs and time to develop mine infrastructure and commence operations.

Australia has hundreds of years of coal deposits that are not difficult to access and then a lot more in difficult to work offshore coal seam locations.

But the climate hoaxers demand that mining be stopped?

fretslider
Reply to  Dennis
October 14, 2021 5:17 am

Not just mining, but modern civilisation.

Dennis
October 14, 2021 4:50 am

I watched a television news segment this week about Australia joining with the US to develop a vehicle to explore the Moon, the Australian Federal Government is committed and has allocated initial funding of A$50 million for the project.

What really interested me was a comment that developing the vehicle in Australia was based on the mining technology and experience, particularly in the harsh conditions of the Pilbara Region of WA where iron ore is mined.

The purpose of the vehicle is to locate oxygen sources for future space travel?

Or is the real reason partly that but mainly mining to extract Helium-3 for use in reactors on Earth, as China calls it, the perfect fuel?

ResourceGuy
October 14, 2021 5:46 am

Mine the coal in Illinois, Indiana, and Kentucky then ship it out on the Ohio-Mississippi River systems…..so that Californians can continue to hit the online order button for more imported goods. We wouldn’t want to slow orders to the NIMBYs now would we.

ResourceGuy
October 14, 2021 6:01 am

China’s Met Office predicts cold winter. Cut power and fuels for the UK, US, and EU embassies in response. Kerry won’t mind.

CORRECTED-UPDATE 2-Winter chill keeps China’s coal prices high, power crunch stokes inflation (yahoo.com)

Duane
October 14, 2021 6:34 am

The so-called “energy crisis” is not an energy crisis.

It is a supply chain bottleneck brought on by a combination of the effects of the COVID response and interruptions in virtually all parts of the world’s supply chains, and changes in workforce composition brought on in the last year. Whether it is energy, or raw materials, or truck drivers to haul stuff, or finished parts like chips used in automobiles, it is all going slow like molasses in January. Much of it is caused by labor shortages, as vast numbers of people have retired from the work force – 4.1 million in the USA alone last month – after deciding after shutdowns and slowdowns that they can live without working.

We’ll see how long that lasts, and whether this is a permanent condition in an aging workforce. Birth rates in all developed nations are running below replacement, meaning all developed nations are going to have to wrestle with the same problems Japan has been grappling with for the last three decades. With humas living longer, and fewer humans being born, the proportion of retirees is skyrocketing, with COVID serving as an accelerant.

griff
Reply to  Duane
October 14, 2021 9:16 am

Absolutely!

and it certainly isn’t a crisis which renewables have caused or contributed to.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Duane
October 14, 2021 10:09 am

“Much of it is caused by labor shortages, as vast numbers of people have retired from the work force – 4.1 million in the USA alone last month”

Some of those people might be quitting their jobs in exchange for a higher-paying job.

There are over 10 million unfilled jobs in the United States. Someone who was willing to work would have first choice.

One port manager in Los Angeles suggested that instead of giving welfare money to the illegal aliens coming into the U.S. over the southern border, they should instead be employeed to get the cargo bottlenecks fixed, if Americans are not willing to do the job.

It’s kind of a mystery as to why so many people are still not out looking for jobs. As far as I know, the extended unemployment benefits are no longer being paid, so there must be something else keeping people at home.

One thing might be the $600 dollars per child per month, the government is currently paying to every parent in the United States.

Last edited 1 month ago by Tom Abbott
TonyG
October 14, 2021 8:38 am

Obviously they just need more solar panels, right?

This is one region having problems like this that are affecting the entire world. How bad do things have to get before reality finally sets in? Based on postings around here, possibly never.

griff
Reply to  TonyG
October 14, 2021 9:16 am

Yes. and they are getting them!

this is actually a fairly decent summary:
Solar power in India – Wikipedia

ResourceGuy
October 14, 2021 8:39 am
Andy Pattullo
October 14, 2021 9:33 am

One of the most perplexing and disappointing features of stupidity is the lack of accountability for the results. It turns out this is only a temporary feature that, in the passage of time, will be replaced by true retribution at the hands of those whose injuries result from the stupidity of others.

October 14, 2021 11:25 am

Meanwhile Europe’s winter is shaping up to be a big coldy-coldy – and Brexit won’t save the U.K. from that

https://youtu.be/ojgDu6hTDdA

ResourceGuy
October 14, 2021 12:23 pm
AntonyIndia
October 14, 2021 11:03 pm

Facing Energy Crisis Gujarat To Buy Power From Tata At A Rate Higher Than Mentioned In Purchase Agreement
Reason: The move came after Adani’s plant at Mundra and Essar Power’s plant at Salaya stopped supplying power to Gujarat, after the prices of Indonesian coal doubled.

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