The New Yorker Asks, Should the Climate Movement Embrace Sabotage?

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

The Federalist has accused The New Yorker of amplifying calls for ecoterrorism, in the wake of the recent publication of “How to Blow Up a Pipeline“, and a New Yorker podcast titled “Should the Climate Movement Embrace Sabotage?“.

New Yorker Amplifies Calls For Pipeline Bombings To Save The Planet

SEPTEMBER 27, 2021 By Jordan Davidson

The New Yorker amplified calls for eco-terrorism in the name of sparking action on climate change last week by inviting Andreas Malm, the Swedish author of “How To Blow Up A Pipeline,” onto its podcast.

In the episode titled “How to Blow Up a Pipeline,” Malm explains how it’s time for the climate change movement to “diversify its tactics and move away from an exclusive focus on polite, gentle, and perfectly peaceful civil disobedience.”

Malm stopped his recommendations short of “kidnapping oil workers” but said that “civil disobedience” ostensibly to save the planet should include mass acts of “intelligent sabotage” and property destruction, such as blowing up pipelines.

“I’m not saying we should stop strikes or square occupations or demonstrations of the usual kind. I’m all in favor of that. But I do think we need to step up because so little has changed and so many investments are still being poured into new fossil fuel projects,” Malm said. “So I am in favor of destroying machines, property — not harming people, that’s a very, very important distinction there. And I think property can be destroyed in all manner of ways, or it can be neutralized in a very gentle fashion as when we defeated the SUVs, or in a more spectacular fashion, as in potentially blowing up a pipeline that’s under construction. That’s something that people have done.”

Read more: https://thefederalist.com/2021/09/27/new-yorker-amplifies-calls-for-pipeline-bombings-to-save-the-planet/

The New Yorker podcast by David Remnick is available here.

I tried listening to the podcast. The climate portion of the podcast, the friendly interview with the author of How to Blow Up a Pipeline, starts at 17:00 minutes, with author Professor Andreas Malm boasting about how he and his friends used to roam around rich suburbs in Sweden deflating SUV tires.

Andreas credits his group’s sabotage campaign with crashing sales of SUVs in Sweden. That may be, but in my opinion he is lucky he and his friends weren’t busted causing a fatal vehicle crash. Andreas claims his technique caused a slow deflation over a few hours, like planting a small stone under the air valve cap, to gently press on the valve and cause the tyre to slowly deflate. So if the owner started driving shortly after the attack, the driver might not notice one or more of their tyres was slowly going flat.

Their technique was subtle, if there was a fatal crash, and the coroner found the small stone in the valve cap, it could have been ruled an accident. I’m sure most of us have had an unpleasant experience with a tyre suddenly failing – a very possible outcome of Andreas’ subtle SUV tyre sabotage campaign.

I mentioned the exact technique, because this is something SUV owners in climate activist areas should maybe start to watch out for. Next time you have a tyre failure, check your tyre valve.

At 22 minutes into the podcast, author Andreas Malm appears to recommend blowing up pipelines.

At 25 minutes, Andreas whines ordinary people are not engaged with the climate crisis “the people don’t rise up!”, and criticises the “dogmatic commitment to non-violence” of other climate activists.

At 27 minutes, “burning down police stations is an integral part of the uprising”.

At 30 minutes, Andreas concedes killing people, kidnapping oil CEOs and murdering them, would cause a backlash.

At 32 minutes, “A strategy which does not involve oil getting more expensive is not a strategy at all”.

At 32:48, New Yorker’s David Remnick suggests Fox News might spoil the campaign by pointing out the eco-terrorists were causing widespread fuel price misery. Andreas responds “Well, I don’t think that we should adapt our tactics after the enemy’s script”.

At 34:30, “Normal protests work best when they target fossil fuel production … peacefully breaking through police lines, shutting down gas pipelines”.

At 37 minutes, the Andreas Malm interview finally ends. The podcast then goes on to discuss sea level, but I’m afraid I stopped listening, 20 minutes of this nonsense is about as much as I can take in one sitting.

As far as I can recall, throughout the entire interview, the closest The New Yorker host David Remnick came to criticising Andreas Malm’s position, was questioning whether murder might cause a political backlash which could undermine Andreas’ climate campaign.

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Redge
September 28, 2021 10:09 am

Why haven’t the police in his country knocked on his door? What more evidence do they need other than his confession?

Neo
Reply to  Redge
September 28, 2021 10:36 am

Apparently, pre-crime only counts when a bunch of crazy teens schedule a Columbine-like attack 3 years in advance.

Pat from Kerbob
Reply to  Neo
September 28, 2021 11:42 am

No, he has openly admitted to flattening tires in his hometown, that is vandalism of private property.
He should be looking out through iron bars right now

Citizen Smith
Reply to  Pat from Kerbob
September 28, 2021 12:19 pm

People don’t actually, really, literally go to jail in Sweden. Some spend the night there but are released on weekends or to go to work or to a child’s recital, and so on. It is very civilized.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Citizen Smith
September 28, 2021 2:30 pm

No doubt the weekends are reserved for personal counseling to help the cons deal with the stresses of incarceration.

LdB
Reply to  Pat from Kerbob
September 28, 2021 6:09 pm

Statute of limitations … look it up for Sweden

Even though we disagree with things you need to remember the law.

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Carbon Bigfoot
Reply to  LdB
September 29, 2021 8:13 am

Remember Mao said power or interpretation of law are best exercised at the end of a gun. Just sayin’

Vuk
Reply to  Redge
September 28, 2021 11:56 am

They have committed a world wide range of a very grave sabotage by depriving hundreds of millions of children of proper education. I can’t think of any any kind of physical sabotage doing more damage to the well being of the many western democracies economics.

Duane
Reply to  Redge
September 28, 2021 1:15 pm

Actually, it would be great if this dude blew up a pipeline, or inspired someone else to do it. The blowback would be immense – both the environmental damage, and the spike in oil and gas prices from interruptions in supply (people are already getting very angry about the recent runup in oil and gas prices, partly due to increase demand, and also partly due to supply disruptions in American production due to Hurricane Ida this year).

I remember well the “Monkey Wrench Gang” mythology of how great it was to destroy stuff you don’t like .. but then they started spiking a lot of trees and got a lot of loggers killed and seriously injured .. and the blowback was immense. Many of the perps got time in the big house, and all of the mystique of blowing stuff up was destroyed by the picture of blue collar guys just trying to provide for their families getting hurt and killed by metrosexual dilletantes claiming to be green heroes.

George Lawson
Reply to  Redge
September 29, 2021 3:18 am

These ignorant idiots do not have the intelligence or rationality to conduct a sensible argument with those who disagree with their views but do not resort to terrorism. Like all terrorists they can only argue with a gun in their hand; a situation that will get worse unless our law enforcement agencies do what they did yesteryear and slap these imbicliles behind bars.

Ron Long
September 28, 2021 10:16 am

Looks like it is about time that some persons think about defending their way of life. These eco-terrorists are willing to seriously injure or even kill persons in their mad rush to judgement. I gave classes to both ranchers and geologists about the confrontation of eco-terrorists and the use of civil law as a transition into criminal law and at what level in the escalating sequence what force response was legally permitted. This transition, usually either a gross misdemeanor or a felony, varies state to state.

Derg
Reply to  Ron Long
September 28, 2021 11:07 am

No kidding, remember when those crazy eco loons spiked trees in the NW?

Sick people.

Reply to  Derg
September 28, 2021 1:39 pm

I think one of those tree spikers is in congress.

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  Herman A (Alex) Pope
September 28, 2021 2:56 pm

Tracy Stone-Manning, a nominee to run the Bureau of Land Management, proving that the Universe has a perverse sense of humor.

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  Ron Long
September 28, 2021 3:03 pm

I predict that if someone actually pulls the trigger on such an act, David Remnick will receive an off-hours visitation from those affected, after which his whereabouts will be unknown.

H.R.
Reply to  D. J. Hawkins
September 29, 2021 3:23 am

Oh, his whereabouts will be exactly known. He most assuredly will be found playing gin rummy with Jimmy Hoffa.

Joe Bastardi
September 28, 2021 10:17 am
Randy Stubbings
September 28, 2021 10:25 am

So he’s in favour of destroying things but not harming people? How do people get this stupid? Just imagine the loss of life with a blown-up pipeline or two in the middle of a northern winter. What is truly scary is that he will likely get away with inciting criminal behavior in an age where we can be arrested for using the wrong pronoun or not wearing a mask. Maybe, in addition to fertilizing plants and contributing to a slight and beneficial rise in temperature, the increase in atmospheric CO2 is destroying brain cells in a segment of the population.

Reply to  Randy Stubbings
September 28, 2021 11:29 am

Aren’t pipelines an “infrastructure”? Whether blown up, or simply not completed?

Reply to  Randy Stubbings
September 28, 2021 1:45 pm

Destroying Pipelines don’t just kill people in the destruction, it kills people who freeze because they do not have fuel to keep warm, or for food transportation or adequate cooling on the hottest days.

[please fix your email so I don’t have to keep fixing it for you.-mod]

TonyG
Reply to  Randy Stubbings
September 29, 2021 11:10 am

“So he’s in favour of destroying things but not harming people? How do people get this stupid?”

First-order thinking. Nobody considers the ramifications of actions. Or they simply don’t care. In this case, most likely both.

John Bell
September 28, 2021 10:28 am

There was a “Funky Winkerbean” cartoon decades ago, where a radical demanded that a nuclear power station be turned off, so it was turned off, and the lights in the room of the radical went off, much to his dismay. Sounds similar.

John Bell
September 28, 2021 10:33 am

I would think that leftists should be advocating for more and cheaper energy (fossil fuels) so as to lift the poor up higher out of poverty and give them the comforts there afforded. But as usual, they have everything backwards.

SxyxS
Reply to  John Bell
September 28, 2021 11:42 am

Those “leftists” who advocate for such stuff are the most equal of all animals.
And their goal is to reduce world population to > 500 mio .
(And you have to be very rich and influential to get the permission to set up stuff like the Georgia Guidestones(estimated cost 800k inflation adjusted ) at the end of the world
and to do it in such a way that its impossible to find out who arranged and financed it.

John Bell
Reply to  SxyxS
September 28, 2021 12:40 pm

Those Georgia Guidestones…what a standing challenge to graffiti artists.

M Courtney
Reply to  John Bell
September 28, 2021 11:59 am

Some of us leftists do exactly that.

SxyxS
Reply to  M Courtney
September 28, 2021 1:15 pm

Noone denied that such people don’t exist.
But you are a tiny tiny minority.
Equal to the percentage of co2 in our atmosphere.
Even smaller than that: So far i have only found one lefty white activist who follows his values with strict logic = Pat Condell.

Remember how fast the millions strong anti war movement turned to nothing just because the mass murdering psychopath who continued bushs war was black.
Can you imagine how dangerous such a group is where 99.9% can be so easily controlled.

Duane
Reply to  John Bell
September 28, 2021 1:21 pm

Don’t you get it? Greenies hate people – they’re all misanthropes who believe humans are a viral disease of their beloved Gaia.

They couldn’t care less about billions of under nourished deprived persons trying to scratch out a living due to lack of cheap energy availability – after all, the greenies ride around in their jet fuel hogging luxury jets and $100K Teslas,and live in McMansions in Malibu and Martha’s Vineyard, and lecture the rest of us on how we need to live on less.

Steve4192
Reply to  Duane
September 29, 2021 5:15 am

Bingo

It’s the same reason they insist on doing everything they can to encourage subsistence farming over large-scale farming in the developing world. Large-scale farming is vastly more productive, more robust against drought/pests, and generates MUCH greater food security for the population. They can’t have that. They need those fleas off Gaia’s back. It’s also why they fight against life-saving GMO breakthroughs like golden rice that has the potential to save millions of children from vitamin A deficiency-related mortality. Can’t have that. They need LESS filthy humans on Gaia, not more. Those flea larvae must die.

Reply to  John Bell
September 28, 2021 1:48 pm

The leftists do not want to lift anyone out of poverty, they want more people in poverty so more people will be dependent on the Government. This gives them more control over us.

September 28, 2021 10:35 am

Or committing arson to cause California wildfires to be blamed on ‘Climate Change’…

Shoki Kaneda
Reply to  Leif Svalgaard
September 28, 2021 10:37 am

That seems to be a popular faculty lounge topic and hobby.

SxyxS
Reply to  Leif Svalgaard
September 28, 2021 1:17 pm

It’ s all part of Alynskies “Rules for radicals” strategies.

Jeff
Reply to  SxyxS
September 28, 2021 2:29 pm

Anarchy was Trotsky’s means to an end.. The change was to empower the disenfranchised not save the globe from a false problem. A way of building cadre and opportunity for power grab. Alinsky wasn’t a anarchist either but saw civil disobedience as a way to build cadre and political power for change Now we have anarchists whose end is anarchy. They are so easily leveraged because their end has a series of dramas with no end in sight. The only end I see is a global struggle over market share and price setting for fossil fuels. All the rest of the propaganda and dramas are ultimately in service of it… not revolution for solving climate change… (cause it will solve itself by continuing to change).

Craig from Oz
Reply to  Jeff
September 28, 2021 11:42 pm

The irony of Anarchy is that it is actually what you get with ultimate freedom.

You can be free or you can be fair. To be fair you need to define what is fair using rules and then you need a method to enforce them.

The Left – typically – likes to think they are moving towards a fair and just society, however the more ‘fair’ they make it the more ‘rules’ are involved and the more enforcing that is required. Enforcing rules removes freedoms. You could for example make rules requiring that everyone obtains exactly the same amount of pizza, but then someone has to audit the pizza slice sizes and ensure no one attempts to scrap melted cheese off the bottom of the box at the expense of others. Or, heaven forbid, decides they are not that hungry and give their slice to Bob.

The Right – typically – wants to be left alone to enjoy their freedoms and to – perhaps somewhat selfishly – look after their immediate loved ones.

The compromise of society is that you always need SOME rules. Which side of the road you drive on. The concept of ownership. The concepts of how ‘money’ works. Stuff like that. However if you have too many rules then no one has freedoms. But if you have no rules you have Anarchy.

Anarchy, the beloved status of many Left Wing activists, is actually an Extreme Right concept obtained by granting ultimate freedom.

Duane
Reply to  Leif Svalgaard
September 29, 2021 6:34 pm

False flag operations, one of the oldest techniques in combat or politics.

Such was the pretense used by Hitler to justify his invasion of Poland. His Gestapo attacked a German radio and border observation station near the Polish border, killing all the German soldiers therein. Then their goons murdered a couple of concentration camp prisoners, dressed them in Polish Army uniforms, and planted their bodies amongst the German dead. Within a few days the German tanks and Stuka dive bombers rolled into Poland. The Soviets (Stalin) concocted their own excuse to invade Poland from the east a few weeks later, dividing up Poland between the Nazis and the Soviets per the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact signed in mid August 1939.

Neo
September 28, 2021 10:35 am

Blowing up oil or gas pipelines does incur a carbon-cost.
Perhaps, the eco-terrorists could blow themselves up thereby limiting their carbon footprint.

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Reply to  Neo
September 28, 2021 12:57 pm

In 1970 the Weather Underground made a bomb that did prematurely explode and kill 3 members…the Students for Democratic Society and other Left Wing groups were active …maybe a Climate Underground will appear?

Mr.
Reply to  Anti-griff
September 28, 2021 2:39 pm

Or as the mullah who was about to demonstrate an explosives vest to a suicide bombers squad told them –
“pay attention. I’m only going to show you this once”

Tom Halla
September 28, 2021 10:45 am

Malm is normal for a hard core green in being nihilist and misanthropic. He is just more open about it.

Mr.
September 28, 2021 10:53 am

Fanatics for any cause (usually a mission to save something from imaginary doom) cannot respond to reason because ipso facto, they were bereft of reason to start with.

I don’t know what the solution to this dilemma is.

jdgalt1
Reply to  Mr.
September 28, 2021 11:12 am

I suggest that the freedom movement embrace the tactic of ratting out as many arsonists, and wanna-bes, as we possibly can, and then demanding harsh sentences for them.

If that isn’t enough to shut them down for good and all (for example BLM/Antifa terrorists) then it may be necessary to consider stronger measures, probably directed at their organizers and sources of funding (*cough*Soros*cough*).

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CD in Wisconsin
September 28, 2021 10:55 am

The possible problem here for Malm and the NYer is that his advocacy of violence here is not necessarily going to be one way. There are those who are critical of the environmental movement in its present form who might (I suggest) decide to push back and make it a two-way battle of violence.

I of course condemn all violence. However, if he and the NYer are willing to make the environmental and climate alarmist movements a violent one, Molotov Cocktails are not hard to make when it comes time to retaliate. The offices of the environmental and climate movements are probably not hard to find.

Rick
September 28, 2021 10:55 am

Can you imagine the screaming, rhetoric, FBI involvement if you changed one or two words to the title “vaccine clinic”.
Yeesh…The morning shows talking about the horrors of the terrorists, the man hunts, the TwitFace shutting down accounts…

Charlie
September 28, 2021 10:59 am

Another nut from academia.

SxyxS
Reply to  Charlie
September 28, 2021 11:51 am

This is not nut.
It’ s part of a plan.Call it predictive programming or priming.

Same as with racism or AGW.

Noone cared about it 35 years ago ,but then they started repeating the mantra over and over again until they got the needed number of people following the nonsense.
If you would use such an argument to suggest terror attacks on the owners of the New Yorker (and all the other Epstein island pedos)
you’ d be under total attack by the msm for inflammatory hate speech etc.

Michael in Dublin
September 28, 2021 11:13 am

A spoilt child who cannot get his way will do horrible things to his parents and siblings without thinking of the consequences. However, when an adult behaves in a similar fashion, it is truly reprehensible and deserving of real punishment and being publicly shamed.

Len Werner
September 28, 2021 11:17 am

Let me see if I’ve got this right: we have a society now where if someone dares to reveal secrets that a government should not hold from the people it’s supposed to serve in the first place (Assange, Snowden), ‘authority’ hounds them to all corners of the earth and effectively imprisons them. OTOH, we let people who advocate destructive terrorism against everyone but government to walk and speak freely.

How many think that a society operating with those principles can survive, much less be free and just? Who is designing and implementing this?

Rxc
Reply to  Len Werner
October 2, 2021 6:01 am

The purpose of all this ranting and wailing is exactly to bring it down. To raze society to the ground, and start all over again. Build Back Better

Nick Schroeder
September 28, 2021 11:30 am

Anarchy can hardly expect protection from the legal system it rejects.
That behavior justifies standing off 300 yards with a Barrett .308 and “saving” them from the horrors of their climate apocalypse.

Dr. Bob
September 28, 2021 11:39 am

You have to kill the planet in order to save the planet, or so the saying goes.
If they want to blow up pipelines, why stop there. Powerline towers are easy targets too.

But also good targets are wind farms and solar projects, both panels and thermal units. A few well placed rounds from a 300 Win Mag would take out a turbine generator in no time. And a very small round, say a 223/5.7 would do wonders for a solar panel. Considering how remote some of these sites are, and the range of some good long rifles, this would be child’s play.

J Mac
September 28, 2021 11:45 am

Be careful now….. If you initiate violence, don’t complain if it gets to rough for you!

ResourceGuy
September 28, 2021 12:17 pm

John Kerry’s Raiders

fretslider
September 28, 2021 12:28 pm

None of the green solutions have a beneficial ending to them

They have to burn the village to save the village . And given the chance they will.

MarkW
September 28, 2021 12:35 pm

questioning whether murder might cause a political backlash which could undermine Andreas’ climate campaign.

Murder is only wrong if it creates a political backlash. These guys are sick. Then again, they are leftists, they start that way.

LdB
Reply to  MarkW
September 28, 2021 6:13 pm

Like many religions sometimes the line between morality and beliefs blur

Rxc
Reply to  LdB
October 2, 2021 6:03 am

There is no line here. It is all the same to them.

Oldseadog
September 28, 2021 12:43 pm

If the eco warriors believe in democracy, they should stand for office on a platform of what they bekieve in or want, and if they don’t get elected they should go away and shut up.

Obviously they don’t believe in democracy, they prefer dictatorships where they are the dictators.

So let them go and live in a dictatorship, there are plenty of them about, except that I don’t think that there are any dictatorships that want what the eco warriors want so they work out their frustrations by annoying the people they want to influence by blocking motorways and planning to blow up pipelines.

I would put them all on an uninhabited island somewhere with minimal facilkities and let them run their own dictatorship. Plenty of places like that around. South Sandwich Islands? South Georgia? Kerguelan for French speakers?

Oldseadog
Reply to  Oldseadog
September 28, 2021 12:44 pm

believe not bekieve.

Klem
September 28, 2021 12:45 pm

Greenies have been embracing sabotage for decades. Good greif, these forest fires haven’t been lighting themselves you know.

Elle W
September 28, 2021 12:54 pm

Waiting for this guy to get banned for life from Twitter and Facebook for advocating illegal acts…Ok, still waiting…waiting…*crickets*

John the Econ
September 28, 2021 12:54 pm

Hardly anything new. The left has always been comfortable advocating violence.

Beyond that, this is just another example of the affluent yet economically useless promoting ways to punish the economically useful who have better things to do with their lives. And it will continue unabated until there are real consequences to this sort of behavior.

H.R.
Reply to  John the Econ
September 29, 2021 3:53 am

I’ve always maintained that if the ‘depopulate to save Gaia’ bunch ever achieves their goal of getting the population down to 500 million, it will be the wrong 500 million people that remain.

The people who are too busy working to make and maintain our modern technological world are not the academics and basement dwellers that expect to be among the 500 million remaining.

Don’t count on that bunch to keep the lights on and your furnace and air conditioner working, your planes and helicopters flying, or your smart phone being good for anything but a paperweight.

Peta of Newark
September 28, 2021 12:58 pm

Should any Monty Python come your way, do you laugh out loud or simply smile and say nothing?

IOW, Do you ‘get‘ Monty Python or do you think you get Monty Python

Such are the joys of having or not having a GSOH, if you laugh out loud, you are the butt of the joke.

Lighten up boys and girls – I’d put down a few bob to say that this guy is actually ‘On Our Side’

Willem Post
September 28, 2021 1:09 pm

If you blew up a pipeline in Russia, and you would get caught, highly likely, you would not see the light of day for a very long time, if ever.

The US should do the same, and with the southern border

Shoki Kaneda
Reply to  Willem Post
September 28, 2021 2:00 pm

If you blew up a pipeline in Russia, there would be no long time.

John_C
Reply to  Shoki Kaneda
September 29, 2021 5:25 pm

idk, isn’t infinity a long time?

ResourceGuy
September 28, 2021 1:17 pm

I thought New Yorkers would learn something from the earlier book on learning to fly planes without landing them.

ResourceGuy
September 28, 2021 1:18 pm

Is there a DOE or DARPA grant for that?

Doug S
September 28, 2021 1:19 pm

Looks like a clear case of mental illness to me. Andreas Malm should be getting professional mental health services.

Rich Davis
September 28, 2021 1:58 pm

How would it be if we wrote a book “How to draw and quarter a climate fanatic”?

Shoki Kaneda
September 28, 2021 1:59 pm

Should victims of sabotage embrace lethal force?

MarkW
Reply to  Shoki Kaneda
September 28, 2021 4:08 pm

Whether they should or shouldn’t, at some point, they will.

H B
September 28, 2021 2:50 pm

New York or any large city had better be careful about talk like that. It might happen to them no power during the depths of winter to something happening to large transformers that would take months to replace

Serge Wright
September 28, 2021 2:57 pm

The consequences of blowing up a pipeline could lead to a complete and extended shutdown of transport and food supplies or complete power blackouts, leading to the deaths of many thousands of innocent people, including children. These eco terrorists are aware of the dangers they represent to society but don’t care about the lives of their fellow citizens. The best fix here is to implement mandatory prison sentencing of 25+ years for any eco terror related crime and after a few prosecutions it would all stop.

Peter W
September 28, 2021 3:30 pm

In 2016 we moved to Florida in order to get away from that “terrible global warming” up north. Since we moved, I have been tracking our monthly utility bill in our small central Florida residence. Earlier this year we installed an electric clothes dryer so that we no longer have to hang our undies on the back porch every week for the neighbors to admire. This past month, September, our electric usage was 552 kwh. Our previous high for the same month was 687 and the previous low was 592 kwh. How do you explain this decrease?

It is really very simple. In addition to the bill, we can access an Orlando Utilities Commission chart of the daily temperature for the period. In spite of adding and using a weekly power-hungry device, the temperature record for the month was >lower< than for any previous month of September. With that in mind, explain to me this terrible global warming we have been told of all year. I am afraid I just don’t understand!

n.n
September 28, 2021 3:47 pm

Well, it’s not the wicked solution a.k.a. planned parent/hood a.k.a. selective/one-child. But, undoubtedly, there will be casualties and collateral damage. It’s a Pro-Choice, Pro-Choice, Pro-Choice, Pro-Choice world.

Marc
September 28, 2021 3:59 pm

I suggest this Swede stay out of Texas. Its one of the few states (perhaps the only state) that allows its citizens to use deadly force to protect private property. He starts sabotaging some welders duel-ly in Odessa, Texas he may end up on the wrong end of a semi-automatic weapon.

Silentbrick
Reply to  Marc
September 28, 2021 7:35 pm

There’s three words that come to mind and many of my fellow oilfield workers know them.

  1. Shoot
  2. Shovel
  3. Shut up.
High Treason
September 28, 2021 4:28 pm

The New Yorker will become liable if someone follows up on the “advice.” With economic damage in the billions, they will just disappear under the weight of legal liabilities. As for Malm, it is incitement of property destruction and insurrection. This is sedition, which can be tried in Military Court, with the death penalty available.

To bed B
September 28, 2021 4:48 pm

And yet to blame an unprecedented number of wildfires on activists is diverting attention from climate change according to the NYT.
How Rupert Murdoch Is Influencing Australia’s Bushfire DebateCritics see a concerted effort to shift blame, protect conservative leaders and divert attention from climate change.

There were always conditions for many intense fires. There have been many large grass fires lit by lightning in Australia, grass fires inland. There have always been large fires started by accident or deliberately by humans in the densely wooded forests on the east coast. What was unique in Australia that summer wasn’t the acerage of grass fires burnt further west, that summer was 1974-75, or the acerage burnt per fire in forests in the east, but the number of fires lit in forests of the east. So the authorities released a report saying that most acerage burnt was started by lightning, neglecting to mention that acerage burnt by grass fires started by lightning is has been much larger than these forest fires, every year for many decades.

These leftwing publications downplay the role of arson and promote it at the same time. Why would you trust them on climate change?

To bed B
September 28, 2021 5:41 pm

Car sales in Sweden dropped by 23% from 2017, because of new taxes on high emission cars then the pandemic. Sales of diesel cars spiked in June of 2018, just before the new taxes came in.

The XC60 seems to have outsold the highest selling model s/v60 in May. I can’t find any data about crashing SUV sales, except more premium SUVs as rich people opt for electric as a social status thing?

XC90, the biggest Volvo SUV had a big drop from Feb to May in 2020 because of the pandemic, in Europe. Sales were barely less than in 2017.

Looks like his claim was BS.

John Robertson
September 28, 2021 6:10 pm

I can’t figure if the guest is taking the mickey out of the idiot interviewing him or is deadly serious.
Either way he displays all the charm and empathy of Gang Green beautifully.
Liberalism,the progressive kind is a mental disorder.
A progressive diesease.

Gang Green is as toxic to civil society as gaseous gangrene is to an individual.
Banish them.
Let us allow these malcontents and destroyers the pleasure to doing their way..
Like I keep saying..I would pay good money to see these characters live as they preach we must.

I envisage a nice piece of High Arctic real estate,say Coats Island in Hudson Bay,warming like never before,or so they keep telling us.
Perfect for the ideal society to thrive,fossil fuel free,carbon free(except for those pesky carbon based lifeforms).
There these righteous twits can show us all the way..
All I want for my investment,is the rights to the camera drone footage…
Just keep the drones circling above,entertainment will ensue..
if you are as sick of these people as I am,I guess I could call it entertainment..
And a new meme will be born,well the modern Vultures of the Arctic,the drones,might be another..
But the footage will be vital,compulsory viewing in all schools,demonstrating our respect for freedom of choice…

As an experiment,are we ethically bound to rescue them as they fail?
or is the lesson for our children more important?

H.R.
Reply to  John Robertson
September 29, 2021 6:01 am

I’m right there with you John, except I think you should send them to Ellesmere Island . They seem to be terrified of a little heat, so they need to be dropped off somewhere nice and cool. Give them an axe, a saw, and a knife.

Oh, what the hey. Let’s not be heartless bastards. Throw in a frying pan, a hoodie, and one Bic lighter.

Ixnay on the the tropical island.

Glen
Reply to  H.R.
September 30, 2021 8:27 am

I speak Latin (Pig). *Said in the voice of Barbra Billingsley*

tomo
September 28, 2021 6:30 pm

They’re morons – after starting a civil war.

Paul Johnson
September 28, 2021 6:37 pm

When will Twitter, Facebook and Google ban The New Yorker from their platforms for advocating violence?

Hoyt Clagwell
September 28, 2021 9:34 pm

I remember years ago when a Hummer dealership was attacked by an ecoterrorism group called E.L.F. They set fire to the dealership and several Humvees. Someone calculated that the fires sent far more pollution and CO2 into the atmosphere in one day than those vehicles would have produced over their entire lifetimes. Other groups have attacked animal research facilities and released all of the animals, only to have them die in the wild which they were not prepared for. Enviroidiots can’t help making things far worse,(but with the best of intentions of course!)

griff
Reply to  Hoyt Clagwell
September 29, 2021 2:53 am

animal ‘activists’ in the UK ‘liberated thousands of Mink from a UK fur farm.

Now in the UK the Mink is an invasive species which decimates declining mammal, bird and fish species.

Massive impact on UK wildlife…

Any activism needs to have clear targets for what it impacts and for what public opinion it is aimed at changing.

I wouldn’t support burning/destroying anything, or impeding the public not directly involved in any issue.

Craig from Oz
September 28, 2021 11:55 pm

Hmmm…

Sounds about right. He is the sort of person who concluded that since he and his friends can live without a SUV in their driveway then so can everybody else.

People like this honestly see no issue with this, however rarely seem to see things the other way around.

I for example can live without solar on my roof, yet are pretty sure that if I went around at night throwing rocks onto people’s panel cover dwellings they would not see the funny side, even if they did at some level agree with my claims that solar is child labour in the third world.

Addressing him directly I feel he is at best incredibly irresponsible for even discussing his ideas in a positive manner. He shows little evidence for actually understanding the full implications and seems to see the entire thing as a mostly harmless statement.

H.R.
Reply to  Craig from Oz
September 29, 2021 6:41 am

Craig from Oz: He shows little evidence for actually understanding the full implications […]”

Absolutely true. Hasn’t thought it all through like every other misanthropic utopian.
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“[…} and seems to see the entire thing as a mostly harmless statement.”

No, no… he’s completely justified since he is pure and righteous and morally superior. After all, he’s “Saving The Planet” and not just planning the company picnic or some other insignificant thing like eliminating world hunger, poverty, and early death due to disease and contaminated water.

Dodgy Geezer
September 29, 2021 12:58 am

Interesting. In the UK we have laws against terrorisn which include ‘glorifying’ such activity, and preparing for acts of terrorism. You could be done for having a copy of a railway timetable if there was an assertion that it was to be used to plot an attack on the railway. And yet plotting Green attacks, and carrying them out, gets you let off…

Ed Zuiderwijk
September 29, 2021 1:23 am

It appears to me that Andreas is inviting potshots.

2hotel9
September 29, 2021 5:46 am

Leftists have always embraced sabotage, except when they are in charge, then they execute saboteurs and their families, whole villages and towns, hell, in several countries they have exterminated entire segments of the population for “sabotaging” their ideology by refusing to accept it.

Carter Duchesney
September 29, 2021 6:13 am

What if these same tactics were visited upon the The New Yorker and their ilk? Seems possible.

Last edited 2 months ago by Carter Duchesney
Peter Piekstra
Reply to  Carter Duchesney
September 29, 2021 2:12 pm

Monty Python’s how to blow up Andreas Malm. Dong!!!!! tune of Monty Python’s show starting…..

Paul
September 29, 2021 6:33 pm

Of course blow up pipelines, why should not people freeze in the winter. And if they could kill some Trump supporters in the process so much the better.

Richard Briscoe
September 30, 2021 3:09 am

What kind of idiot thinks you can blow up a gas or oil pipeline without harming anyone? In Sweden, deaths from hypothermia are the least you can expect.

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