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Ultimate Climate Hypocrisy: Coal Burning BoJo Demands the World “Grow Up”

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Even the BBC seems perplexed by UK PM Boris Johnson’s grotesque climate hypocrisy, demanding action from everyone else, while failing to practice what he preaches in Britain.

Boris Johnson: Humanity is reaching a turning point on climate change

By Dulcie Lee & Marie Jackson
BBC News

A climate summit of world leaders in 40 days’ time will be the “turning point for humanity”, PM Boris Johnson has said in a speech to the United Nations.

He warned that global temperature rises were already inevitable, but called on his fellow leaders to commit to major changes to curb further warming.

Four areas needed tackling – “coal, cars, cash and trees”, he said.

Countries must take responsibility for “the destruction we are inflicting, not just upon our planet but ourselves”.

“It’s time for humanity to grow up,” he added ahead of the UK hosting the COP26 summit in Glasgow.

The prime minister also said it was time to listen to the warnings of scientists. “Look at Covid if you want an example of gloomy scientists being proved right.”

He previously pledged “never to be lagging on lagging”. But his plan for insulating homes is badly delayed – along with other vital initiatives on issues including aviation, farming and financing the low carbon revolution.

Recent research showed his government had imposed less than a quarter of the policies needed to clean up the economy. 

And some policies – like not opposing a coal mine in Cumbria,cutting taxes on flying and building HS2 – will send emissions up when they are supposed to be going down.

Read more: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58657887

Despite BoJo’s demands that coal be shut down, earlier this month, Boris Johnson was humiliatingly forced to turn to coal, after adverse weather caused renewables to fail, and gas became really expensive during a Europe wide wind drought.

Even coal was not enough. The power price spike created by Britain’s Bojo’s energy policies is causing real problems – power retailers are collapsing right and left. The collapses might force millions of people already suffering fuel poverty onto new, significantly more expensive electricity tariffs. The lost production from rolling factory shutdowns to reduce demand and prevent blackouts could be a genuine threat to Britain’s post lockdown economic recovery.

Yet instead of learning by the abject failure of his policies, Boris seems to be doubling down, insisting even more renewables will solve the problem of output dropping to zero during adverse weather.

Personally I find Boris Johnson’s apparent disconnect from reality on climate issues a little puzzling. I once sat at the next table from Boris at a formal dinner. While I didn’t talk to him personally, he seemed no more insane than any other politician. He took and answered questions, and seemed a reasonably intelligent conversationalist.

Perhaps our friends in Britain can explain? Does Boris truly have no comprehension of these issues, does he not understand Britain needed coal this month? Is Boris simply mouthing a bunch of politically convenient words, with no intention of following through? Or perhaps there is another explanation?

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September 23, 2021 10:13 pm

Eco-Loons like Johnson are incapable of learning from the failure of their policies as they know that the policies must be correct and reality and facts must be faulty. Their only answer for them is to double down on the failed policies are these are the only possible policies.

Vuk
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
September 24, 2021 12:13 am

He is not loony, more a case of a supermarket trolley fitted with a wind sail.

Vuk
Reply to  Vuk
September 24, 2021 1:15 am

Wheels are about to fall of the trolley, said this morning’s Daily Telegraph, Boris’s real boss (as he ones said).
” (headline) The chill winds that signal a second Winter of Discontent is coming
Life is about to get ugly as Britain faces perfect storm of rising fuel bills, food shortages, tax increases and runaway inflation”.
If so the heads will have to roll.

Reply to  Vuk
September 24, 2021 2:54 am

“If so the heads will have to roll.” … that all depends on the roundness of the head, the angle of the slope and any initial momentum. I’m not even certain which axis the head would roll along. It clearly needs some research … I think around 600 heads should be enough for a proper statistical analysis. Where can we get 600 heads which are being used?

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rah
Reply to  Mike Haseler (aka Scottish Sceptic)
September 24, 2021 5:08 am

We have whole cities full of heads not in use in the US! Greatest densities generally found on the NE and West coasts but the greatest density is to be found in Washington DC.

pHil R
Reply to  Mike Haseler (aka Scottish Sceptic)
September 24, 2021 11:06 am

To clarify, did you mean are being used or aren’t being used? Might be difficult to find 600 heads that are being used, but easy-peasy to find 600 that aren’t…

Frank from NoVA
Reply to  Vuk
September 24, 2021 6:15 am

An election is like a strange beauty contest – you win by being the least ugly contestant. If the only alternative is an even more eco-loony Labor party, he will probably skate by this at the next election.

Vuk
Reply to  Frank from NoVA
September 24, 2021 10:02 am

I’m thinking of the ‘Thatcher’ present day malcontent assassins rather than the lame labour leadership winning an election any time soon.

Jack Black
Reply to  Vuk
September 24, 2021 12:54 pm

I meant this reply here, but I seem to have put it at the end too… Oops, sorry. https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/13.1.0/svg/1f937-200d-2642-fe0f.svg

He is not loony, but Luvstruck, every night gazing into these green googly eyes and listening to climate drivel pillow talk, that’s what’s addled his brain. We heard that when in the USA, he’d struck a deal to have Westinghouse build the UK a new fleet of conventional pressurised water nuclear reactors at the old existing sites. Timescale 10-12 years and costs minimum £15 billion per site. They’re having a larf, John. We taught them all they’ll never know, those jokers at Westinghouse …. Hey, Rolls-Royce Civil Nuclear makes all their spare parts and services all the American, French, and even yes Chinese reactors. Without R-R, they’d all beef hooked !

You know, that’s the same Westinghouse that was wholly owned by the British Government, until that half-witted Gordoom Brine sold it for just 10 million sobs, when it had almost tens times that in orders on the books. We don’t need the Chinese, Japanese, or indeed Americans to build us nuclear reactors. 

We have in Rolls-Royce Civil Nuclear, (a wholly owned subsidiary of British Aerospace, the UK government’s arms and munitions business), a company that’s capable of building a fleet of reactors at around £1.5 Billion per Gigawatt per 12 months, at the very minimum. That’s about HALF the cost, in HALF the time as anything we’ve seen from foreign interlopers. 

Not only that but the Royal Navy has at least 8 working nuclear reactors, in laid up reserve submarines, each capable of generating over 300MW of electrical power, and a further 150MW at the prop shaft. There’s an instant two and a half GigaWatts, if we’re really that desperate. Do tell those foreigners to shove it, sling their hook, and beetle off; we don’t need em Boris !

Matthew Sykes
Reply to  Vuk
September 25, 2021 12:37 am

You got that spot on.

griff
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
September 24, 2021 1:15 am

No part of UK renewable policy contributed to a rise in natural gas prices.

Jphn
Reply to  griff
September 24, 2021 1:34 am

Government policy demolished power stations at breakneck speed.

Our leaders actually competed to make us vulnerable to instabilities in energy markets.

We are now more vulnerable to increasing extreme weather caused by climate change,.

Is this the intention of net zero?

Reply to  Jphn
September 24, 2021 2:57 am

And who was paying them off to do that? Who benefits by making the UK weak?

Jack Black
Reply to  Mike Haseler (aka Scottish Sceptic)
September 24, 2021 1:03 pm

Why, Ignacio Galan of “Scottish Power” for one, his Spanish outfit demolished Methil, Cockenzie, and Longannet power stations, and he spirited away valuable flue gas scrubbing equipment to Madrid, where it’s been installed in La Roi coal power station… At the British Taxpayers expense. Not only that, but parent company, Iberdrola stole all of the Scottish allocation of so called “carbon credits”, and spirited them off home to Spain as well.

Bah !

Patrick healy
Reply to  Jphn
September 24, 2021 3:41 am

Jphn,
“more vulnerable to increasing extreme weather caused by
climate change”
Poppycock!

Jack Black
Reply to  Patrick healy
September 24, 2021 1:45 pm

Surely, climate change causes extreme weather, and not the other way round? I mean, isn’t that’s what they’ve been saying. Now they’re puting their own cart, before their own horse, which had bolted before they’d locked the barn door….. or something.

Meh …

dennisambler
Reply to  Jphn
September 25, 2021 6:58 am

“increasing extreme weather caused by climate change”
Doesn’t seem to be happening. In any case, isn’t climate the weather over time, rather than climate causing weather?

AleaJactaEst
Reply to  griff
September 24, 2021 2:18 am

dolt

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  AleaJactaEst
September 24, 2021 6:46 am

I am in agreement with this assessment.

Rod Evans
Reply to  griff
September 24, 2021 4:05 am

Well griff, you would be right if you ignore the fact we have so much gas locked up in shale deposit here in the UK that we would again be energy independent as we used to be, and be a net gas exporter. That was before the Green Luddites took control of energy planning, of course. This government has blocked the fracking of that shale gas, that decision has contributed to the word wide gas shortage to develop. More concerning is the fact, we have handed UK energy security to foreign agents over whom we have zero control.. We have gas under our feet which this administration refuses to access, yet they are happy to import gas from Norway via pipelines, and from elsewhere in liquified form.
Now tell me the logic in doing that?

2hotel9
Reply to  griff
September 24, 2021 4:14 am

Liar spewing lies, yet again.

solomon green
Reply to  griff
September 24, 2021 4:42 am

If the government had not given way to the Green blob, the UK would have:

1) been fracking huge quantities of gas from Bowland Shale,

2) permitted increased extraction of natural gas (presently deemed of not sufficient calorific value to enter then national grid) from the North Sea,

3) created more, rather than decommissioning existing, liquid gas reservoirs.

While this would not have eased Europe’s supply problems it would have insulated the UK from the recent extended failure of renewables where wind has failed to blow on days when much of the country was covered in cloud, severely reducing the small input from solar.

Jack Black
Reply to  solomon green
September 24, 2021 1:11 pm

There are gazillions of cubic metres of shale gas, right underneath Ineos’s refinery at Grangemouth in Scotland, on land that the company owns, but the green-gilled fishwife quine refuses them “permission” to do it. Marxism in action, n’est-ce pas ?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  griff
September 24, 2021 5:06 am

“No part of UK renewable policy contributed to a rise in natural gas prices.”

The price of natural gas would not be such a problem if the windmills were producing electricity.

The windmills are not producing electricity. That’s the problem. When this problem crops up then you have to rely on natural gas, and natural gas prices are up for reasons not related to windmills, and may come down in the future, but the windmills still won’t work if the wind doesn’t blow like is happening now in the UK.

I understand: You want to talk about natural gas prices and not talk about the windmills not working. That would make sense for someone who is promoting windmills. Change the subject

Rusty
Reply to  griff
September 24, 2021 5:09 am

Apart from relying on unreliable wind which didn’t turn up so the slack had to be picked up by gas since nuclear and coal has been steadlly declining as part of the UK’s renewable policy.

Ditto across Europe, hence the higher demand and thus price.

DrEd
Reply to  griff
September 24, 2021 5:19 am

Don’t you have any capacity to follow logic and facts?

MarkW
Reply to  DrEd
September 24, 2021 5:30 am

Was that rhetorical?

pHil R
Reply to  DrEd
September 24, 2021 11:10 am

What is this “logic and facts” I keep seeing people refer to…

I think it has been pretty well established, and Griff in the exhibit that keeps on giving, that you can’t have a rational discussion with irrational people.

MarkW
Reply to  griff
September 24, 2021 5:28 am

It really is great how griff has learned to repeat what he’s been told to repeat so reliably.

Gerry, England
Reply to  griff
September 24, 2021 5:28 am

I see the village idiot/liar has turned up like a bad smell.

George Lawson
Reply to  griff
September 24, 2021 5:54 am

Except that it might not have been a problem had we not closed down our power stations, banned fracking, closed all our coal minds and banned oil exploration, and rely on the wind blowing and the sun shining all the time!

Felix
Reply to  griff
September 24, 2021 7:33 am

What parts of “fungible” and “markets” are you unclear on?

Never mind, you don’t even recognize the words.

Reply to  griff
September 24, 2021 4:32 pm

I suspect you are dead wrong, Griff. My guess is this. Gas is the backup for wind intermittency, that much I am sure of. They did not anticipate this wind drought so it caused a gas shortage, sending prices skyward and causing a juice shortage.

But I suspect BoJo thinks just like you, that somehow gas is the culprit, which is completely wrong. Note that more wind capacity would probably not help because low wind like this is widespread, apparently Europe wide or so.

JamesD
Reply to  griff
September 24, 2021 7:10 pm

I’ll spell it out:
C – O – A – L

Take your time.

pigs_in_space
Reply to  griff
September 24, 2021 9:15 pm

Crap in pants Griff has never heard of SUPPLY AND DEMAND!

Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
September 24, 2021 2:51 am

If at first you don’t succeed … keep doing exactly the same but just a lot more in the hope that it will work.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Mike Haseler (aka Scottish Sceptic)
September 24, 2021 5:10 am

The definition of insanity.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Tom Abbott
September 24, 2021 6:48 am

Like “booster” shots.

MarkW
Reply to  Mike Haseler (aka Scottish Sceptic)
September 24, 2021 5:31 am

The solution to every problem is more government. Even those problems which were caused by government.

Giordano Milton
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
September 24, 2021 7:28 am

Yep. They just didn’t “go big” enough.

Quilter 52
September 23, 2021 10:13 pm

How do we extract Carrie from Downing Street? He’s gone ridiculous since he started listening to her. She was not elected to anything. He was on a very specific program which he now appears to be deliberately avoiding.

M Courtney
Reply to  Quilter 52
September 24, 2021 12:34 am

Rubbish.
He has had numerous wives, lovers, girlfriends and escorts. None have swayed him in anyway. Do you truly believe this time is different? This one is True Love?

Only his love of popularity sways him. He clowns on zipwires and BBC panels shows with no dignity because he wants fame and “cool”. That’s all he wants.

Being a Catastrophe Sceptic is unpopular with the media. If it bleeds it leads. And so the PM is a catastrophist.

He doesn’t actually believe anything or in anything. Whether his current wife tells him to or not.

Reply to  M Courtney
September 24, 2021 12:39 am

On the contrary there is evidence that Carrie has indeed swayed him significantly.

No fool like an old fool.

M Courtney
Reply to  Leo Smith
September 24, 2021 1:02 am

I see no such evidence.
A marriage is not a major life change for a man with so many relationships.
Becoming PM is.

You are merely trying to justify why the Conservative Party Leader isn’t who you thought he was. Blaming Jezebel is cartoonish reasoning.

He has always been a hypocrite.

Rod Evans
Reply to  M Courtney
September 24, 2021 4:13 am

Hypocrites we can handle, that would describe most of the political class. It is the complete idiots we are having trouble with. Who knows what influences Boris? What we can be sure of is, it is not rational or scientific thinking, is it?

DonM
Reply to  M Courtney
September 24, 2021 10:12 am

they is differing sizes of hypocrites.

little hypocrites do things like espouse equality for all, but live at a higher lifestyle than the average, make sure that they will always have that option, and back notions that will take that option from others in the name of helping the below average.

big hypocrites should be easier to spot. they make a living convincing the little hypocrites that the little hypocrites are important. (it is very tough for the little hypocrite to recognize the big hypocrite)

giant hypocrites, like boris, are easy to recognize.

dodgy geezer
September 23, 2021 10:22 pm

Politicians are NOT in charge of the ship of state. It is a big massive structure run by civil servants who are usually supported by lobbyists and interest groups.

The politicians are there to provide a public face. But what happens is what the civil servants want. Politicians change, but the government endures. And the government wants us to freeze…

Dennis
Reply to  dodgy geezer
September 24, 2021 2:50 am

You are not far off the mark, many years ago (decades ago) the wife of a then recently appointed Cabinet Minister told me about her conversation with the permanent head (public servant) of the government department her husband’s ministerial position represented. The bureaucrat told her very politely and with good humour that cabinet ministers do not run government departments, public servants do.

“Yes Minister”.

Alba
Reply to  Dennis
September 25, 2021 2:49 am

Well, he would say that, wouldn’t he. Perhaps there was a lot of humour in his remark. There’s probably some truth in the idea that the civil servants run everything but the reality is probably more compex than that.

September 23, 2021 10:35 pm

It is Carrie and her friends talking through his mouth.
We see the capture of an elected representative by a single issue pressure group.
In submitting to their will he is committing gross dereliction of duty.
There are a number of sceptical members of his party and we can only hope that one of them takes over soon.
In the meantime he is becoming an embarrassment.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Stephen Wilde
September 24, 2021 11:45 am

All politicians are for anything that will get or keep them elected. CliSciFi is the current fad. It will continue to failure that is obvious to the voters. With a compliant/complicit media it has not been generally obvious to the masses. A few years of suffering will change the political climate. [pun intended]

Jack Black
Reply to  Stephen Wilde
September 24, 2021 1:17 pm

Rees-Mogg for PM.

Let’s bring back that nineteenth century industrial thinking !

Who better to be leader, than the “MP for the nineteenth century” ?

Scott
September 23, 2021 10:36 pm

Simply thinking with his little head instead of the big head

September 23, 2021 10:39 pm

“Or perhaps there is another explanation?” – perhaps another Biden ?

Reply to  Bevan
September 24, 2021 12:40 am

No – Boris has not lost his marbles. Carrie has them firmly in her grasp

Reply to  Leo Smith
September 24, 2021 2:59 am

Stop calling him “Boris” – that is just his marketing image. He is Johnson.

Patrick healy
Reply to  Mike Haseler (aka Scottish Sceptic)
September 24, 2021 3:45 am

Well Mike I prefer Boris Corbyn

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Bevan
September 24, 2021 5:23 am

“perhaps another Biden?”

At least Boris isn’t stupid enough to think abandoning Afghanistan is a good idea. No, Boris is not as stupid as Biden.

Talk about an embarrassment. Biden is the embarrassment.

Biden is also dangerous since he is almost completely divorced from reality when it comes to national security and economic security.

No, Boris is no Biden.

We’ll trade you Biden for Boris.

Redge
September 23, 2021 10:52 pm

BoJo is, and always has been, a buffoon, not fit to lick excrement off Thatchers shoes

He flip-flops from one “policy” to the next depending on which way the wind is blowing or his todger is pointing.

How the hell the Tories, a once-great party, elected BoJo as PM is beyond me. Then again they did elect Cameron and May.

The current bunch of “Tories” are self-serving, arrogant no-nothings who couldn’t run a piss-up in a brewery.

With all the advances in computers, CGI, and VR movies, could we please bring back Thatcher, or even better, Churchill?

angech
Reply to  Redge
September 23, 2021 11:04 pm

I like Boris in a lot of ways.
He upsets people and calls a spade a spade.
I have never understood his green side and I guess he is just one of the very many people who believe the science and have not yet had to suffer from their views.
That would still have to be over 50% of people from personal experience and looking at the actions taken by mainly western governments over the last 20 years.
We are lucky that the chickens are coming home to roost.
He might just be able to change his tune when facing disaster and reverse course.
Whereas a Biden or a labour party leader would not be able to.

Vuk
Reply to  angech
September 24, 2021 12:21 am

He use to be climate change sceptic (“green cr.p” he said on one occasion) then he met woman who got tight grip on his ‘onions’.

AC Osborn
Reply to  Vuk
September 24, 2021 12:55 am

Come on guys, he is doing as his globalist bosses tell him.

Dennis
Reply to  AC Osborn
September 24, 2021 2:57 am

On Sky News Australia tonight former Federal Senator Cory Bernardi, who has his own programme on Sky, said that the United Nations has now demanded that all member nations raise their annual contributions to the UN to 10 per cent of GDP.

If this was adopted the UN would increase revenue from around US$3 billion a year to around US$8 trillion. The UN claims the money is needed to help them to support recovery from the pandemic.

Reminded me about the non-government organisation World Economic Forum stated agenda, “great reset, build back better”.

Globalism, another tactic for far left politics.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Dennis
September 24, 2021 5:31 am

I’m skeptical that the UN is demanding ten percent of everyone’s GDP. Not that they wouldn’t like to have that much money, but I would be surprised if they were bold enough to demand such a thing knowing there is little chance of it being successful.

Of course, the nations of the world will deny any such demand as being outrageous. Although Biden, being Biden, may consider it.

We are in a fight with the Globalists. Joe Biden is one of them.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Dennis
September 24, 2021 11:51 am

Why would any government give money for recovery to the UN for their laundry mechanisms?

HotScot
Reply to  Vuk
September 24, 2021 1:22 am

It’s a popularity program driven by ludicrous polls. Ask anyone if they are concerned for the planet/environment and they will say yes. Of course we are concerned for the plante, but the informed are not overly concerned.

But dig deeper and it’s an even more complicated subject e.g. how much are people willing to pay every month to stop global warming, and it turns out to be very little.

Are people more concerned about their governments that they are of global warming? With the evidence of e.g. covid, Australian Police tyranny, and voting malfeasance in the USA mounting, most of us who care to research the subjects are extremely worried.

And precisely what they are worried about over ‘the climate’ varies wildly e.g. most people visiting this blog are usually genuinely concerned (and well enough informed) that the UK is badly prepared for a cooling planet. It might not jump on us tomorrow but one bad winter this year could spell disaster for many. So yes, we’re all damned concerned about the planet, human life, and our economy.

What we are more concerned about is a concerted effort of western governments to lie to us all about the climate and the cause of any changing climates.

The public is largely entirely unaware that CO2 forms ~0.04 of the atmosphere and that mankind’s contribution to that is ~4% (0.0016%) which is statistically and practically inconsequential.

The term ‘gigatons’ has been weaponised because people simply don’t understand what a gigaton of CO2 is. If the world as a whole produces 100gt of CO2 over a given period, mankind produces only 4gt, but those comparisons are never broadcast.

Quite what the agenda is we don’t know, but logical thought progression makes it too horrific to contemplate.

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  HotScot
September 24, 2021 3:01 am

YES! We are concerned about the economy that is being destroyed by Green ideas to “save the planet.” We are concerned that what happened in Texas back in February is going to happen again and on a much grander scale. We are concerned that trillions are being poured down rat holes to combat covid and climate change. And we are especially concerned that our freedoms and liberty are being taken away by handfuls to placate a few noisy idiots!

Reply to  Vuk
September 24, 2021 1:57 am

I think, that possibly, just possibly, Boris, Like Trump, is less concerned with what people think he believes, than staying in power and achieving certain results.

There is MASSIVE pressure and money is being poured into Green/renewable propganada in the lead up to COP26.

Sometimes the best way to throw your opponent in Ju Jitsu is to let his own momentum do most of the work.

I am appalled at how much traction the green narrative has.

But I am encouraged, at least, by how much the renewable narrative is losing traction.

Frankly, I dont care how many people believe in climate change – mutatis mutandis, if that leads us to an all nuclear powered society, for all the wrong reasons, well so be it, we still have what we need – a publicly supported nuclear power program.

I have written many times about the dichotomy between truth and utility, and how these are assumed to be congruent in science, but are miles apart in sociology politics and religion.

It is extremely useful to convince people of what are essentially notions whose truth content is at best indecidable (Gods) and at worst is simply contrary to all human experience (Marxism).

Science runs on facts, politics runs on plausible and attractive narratives.

ClimateChange is plausible and attractive to the ArtStudent mind which is awed and frighened by a science and technology whose inner workings are essentially magic to them. So, also, the RenewableEnergy narrative appeals. Windmills and solar panels are more accessible than nuclear reactors. But in the end, even the ArtStudent has to accept the reality of stationary wind turbines in a dull overcast landscape and the numbers on the dials of the electricity meters showing ‘renewables ain’t working’

HotScot
Reply to  Leo Smith
September 24, 2021 2:41 am

The problem being that, as Dr. John Constable pointed out in a parliamentary committee discussion, the UK was already on the path to nuclear being that we were moving from coal to natural gas, and the logical progression would then be to nuclear.

The emotionally motivated greens stymied that with their insistence on wasteful, expensive renewables and we have lost a generation to their unscientific and economically illiterate insanity.

Reply to  HotScot
September 24, 2021 4:43 am

I cant disagree with that. In an ideal world…but we don’t live on an ideal world, but one beset ny conflicting currents of greed, egotism and common sense. And bounded by a less than ideal financial and political system, that is nevertheless as good as we have come up with yet…The fact is that economics – 15% interest rates and higher – drove us away from nuclear towards cheaper gas in the 1980s, stupid ideology, profit, greed and public ignorance drove us towards renewables in the noughties, and now we have nowhere left to go BUT nuclear. It will just take a bit of time for that to become apparent to hoi polloi.

Reply to  angech
September 24, 2021 1:34 am

Boris is above all a politician – and a tory politician. He doesn’t do ideology. He does pragmatic politics.

With Cameron I always felt his attitude was ‘well if you want a referendum, you can have a referendum’ to the grass roots, and to his Brussels masters ‘i will fight to remain with every skill I possess’
which turned out to be ‘I will fight with as much enthusiasm as a dead haddock’

Boris is clever. Very clever. Behind that untidy mop of hair there is a very good brain. And a cynical one. One thing I do know is that whatever he appears to be doing there will always be a hidden agenda. Even from his snugglebunny.

I would not be surprised if he has not calculated that the only way to rid ourselves of GreenCrap™ and EcoBollox™ is to feed us enough of it until either it works or we are sick of it.

In short, perhaps he wants, like Cameron, public opinion to take a decision that he is politically unable to take. And keep things sweet in the royal bedchamber.

Hence the light touch on Climate extinction, insulate Britain and other more lunatic green lobbies – if the public gets sick enough of them, and if energy prices rise to unaccaptable levels, Boris will wave a magic wand and say ‘well if that is how you feel, we do in fact have a solution, and that is the Rolls Royce consortium’s small reactors which we just happen to have been throwing money at’

Economically and politically whether or not the electorate believe in ClimateChange™ is actually not important. Sorry WUWT. What is however extremely serious is the headlong rush into the dead end of renewable energy and NetZero..

Look at where Britain is.

  • We are committed to an all electric future.
  • We won’t be able to charge our cars because there isnt enough electricity.
  • We may not be able to all have electric cars anyway, because there isn’t enough lithium.
  • We won’t be able to afford the electricity, because gas prices are through the roof.
  • We can’t frack our own gas because the greens won’t let us.
  • If we don’t buy gas from the Arabs, we will have to get it from the Russians. Neither are our best friends.
  • We wont be able to use renewables, because the sun isn’t always shining and the wind isnt always blowing.
  • And both of these happen to the whole of N Europe at once, so interconnectors are no use, either.
  • We cant use coal because the green lobby wont let us.

Ideology, in short, is colliding headlong with Reality™.

There are only two ways out of this long term – bankrupt the West with renewable energy, or build nuclear. Frackable gas or coal are sadly – as we have learnt to our cost – only short term palliatives. Yes there is coal left, but it’s not in the huge quantities or economically viable locations as, say, the USA or Australia. Yes there is frackable gas there, but we burned our way through most of the North Sea conventional reserves in not much more than 30 years.

Long term economic survival and economic security suggests we need something that works that we can stockpile, or access locally, that isn’t fossil based. Wind sun or nuclear. Well, we have tried the wind and sun, and they have been shown not to work. We know that nuclear does.

Those facts merely need to be brought to the attention of the Great Unwashed, and political pressure will do the rest.

As I found sadly, not enough people understand, and even fewer are capable of understanding, and almost no one is prepared to do the mental work of trying to understand, the detailed technical issues that tell us why renewable energy will never work.

We have to build it, and watch it fail, to make the point.

Now if Boris has gone through that thought process, and is under intense pressure to GoGreen™, then perhaps like Cameron, the idea is to feed us so many unworkable GreenSolutions™ that we throw up and reject Green politically, completely, and finally.

That avoids taking on the argument about ClimateChange™ completely. And it avoids him personally taking an anti-renewable stance. Princess NutNutz and her set are happy. They got their way, and it was the public that rejected their half baked ArtStudent solutions.

I am sure what Boris has learnt, is the same as I learnt, that people can always be relied upon (as Churchill once remarked of the Americans) to do the right thing – after they have exhausted every other alternative. We may know what must be done, but if that is something people do not know, and, more, do not want to know, well then the hard truth will only be accepted when their plans fall to pieces and disaster looms.

HotScot
Reply to  Leo Smith
September 24, 2021 2:55 am

On the other hand, he might just instruct his government to explain the scientific and economic realities of renewables to the public.

He might explain that there has been no meaningful warming of the planet in the last 100 years.

He could also explain that the planet is greening thanks to CO2, and that man’s contribution to atmospheric CO2 is around 0.0016%.

He might also explain that SMR’s are a logical, and potentially much more practical, and cheaper way of providing reliable electricity and to ensure the country’s energy security than any of the alternatives.

He might do all these things and let the public who employ him to keep them honestly and reliably informed, make the decisions for themselves.

This could be achieved by the very same means the misinformation over climate change is disseminated, the media.

The green goblin could be crushed almost overnight and all those countries he’s now ‘setting an example’ for would likely rush to conform as they witness the prospect of a progressive (in the best way) creative, productive and prosperous UK.

Reply to  HotScot
September 24, 2021 5:00 am

The green goblin is not a goblin. It is an immensely rich and powerful coalition of energy companies, criminals, academics, media stars, useful idiots, and so on.

Oratio directa is courting the sort of disaster that befell David Kelly.

Consider: wet fingering UK Electrical energy consumption at say 30GW over 8000 hours annually of which 15% is renewable that is 15% of 240 trillion units of electricity at say 20p a unit n

15% of 48 trillion quid. £7.2bn of money going to purveyors of windmills and solar panels annually. In te UK alone.

How many journalists, academics, politicians, and media stars can you buy, or threaten, with that sort of cash?

Boris’ life isn’t worth £7.2 bn and he knows it.
We all saw how its done with Brexit…where people openly and brazenly were using any means at their disposal to protect vested interests.

Climate change is very scary. There is obviously huge money and some very cynical and ruthless men behind all this. They just are not very bright…

Flying under the radar is indicated. Full stealth mode.

No impoartant politician dare oppose this openly, but the signs are that the unbought members of the media are staring to raise the odd eyebrow…

HotScot
Reply to  Leo Smith
September 24, 2021 8:22 am

Undoubtedly there is a lot of truth in what you say, but Brexit is a case in point where all that corruption, coercion, politicking, and media bias and manipulation didn’t work.

And what these mega wealthy are doing is gambling their money. If the British public get p!ssed off enough, again, as with Brexit, they stand to lose it all, so, no, I don’t believe there’s a £7.2Bn price tag on Boris’ head.

Boris is like a born again Christian, fanatical in his new found belief because he watched Gore’s movie and read his book. He’s surrounded by Yes men who are to stupid to even understand any science behind climate change and who all believe the polls that ask stupid questions of the public like ‘Is global warming bad for the planet’. Well of course it is at 10ºC above where we are now, but that’s not qualified so people just say yes.

The poll is delivered to the politicians and they truly believe the public are going to endure crippling energy prices and having to eat insects just to ‘save the planet’. If they actually talked to people and asked intelligent people the right questions they would understand that really, climate change just isn’t an issue with most people, especially when they find out they’re going to have their savings and possibly their houses confiscated.

I understand there was a poll done in the US asking how much people would pay every month to stop climate change. I believe the figure was $5 or so. Any more and they just weren’t interested.

Boris, like all the moronic PM’s we have had, Blair, Cameron, May and many others want to leave a legacy of grand success. Boris identifies with Churchill so he’s determined to do as was perceived Winnie did, bully people into submission, just listen to the ludicrous speeches he gives; peppered with prose, imagining his feeble oration conveys the intelligence and gravitas Churchill spoke with.

What the wealthy corporations etc. don’t want is for the apple cart to be upturned, which is precisely what’s happening. The renewables industry is being exposed for precisely what it is, a gigantic fraud and many sheep are now sitting up and taking notice.

Only fools would allow our energy infrastructure to be undermined as comprehensively as it has been by responding to the green call for no more coal, but a succession of PM’s have done just that to attract the mythical ‘green voter’.

The labour party have been strangely quiet on all this. In my opinion they sense what’s coming and when people are genuinely affected by rising energy prices and blackouts they will turn on Boris’ green agenda like a pack of rabid dogs, and as it’s their single route back into challenging for power they will be merciless.

Yet another unpredictable element the money men can’t control.

Reply to  Leo Smith
September 24, 2021 3:01 am

That Tony …
That John
That Teresa
That Margaret

When have we ever called our PM by their first name until this clown?

Reply to  Mike Haseler (aka Scottish Sceptic)
September 24, 2021 4:45 am

Always. It was Maggie. Tony. Treason,

Reply to  Mike Haseler (aka Scottish Sceptic)
September 24, 2021 1:40 pm

‘Yer Bloody Harold’ – Wilson, not SuperMac.
From “To Death Us Do Part” in the Sixties.
And – earlier – wasn’t it ‘Winnie’?
Before my time, just, but I think it often was. YMMV

Not all – May’s predecessor was ‘the fat-faced one’, and Brown’s was ‘Phony Tony’ – for some of us!

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Tom Abbott
Reply to  Leo Smith
September 24, 2021 5:46 am

“We have to build it, and watch it fail, to make the point.”

That’s a good description of the situation.

And it looks like we are getting close to the failure point.

It appears, at least so far, that our politicians don’t see the looming danger. It will probably take a big failure to snap them out of their daze.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Leo Smith
September 24, 2021 12:00 pm

People go mad in crowds. One-by-one the voting public will come to reality.

Reply to  Leo Smith
September 25, 2021 12:29 am

The problem is that when multi-disaster looms, even brilliant Boris will not be able to put the wheels back on the bus. Your explanation is more consistent with the desire to wreck both the economy and civil rights/democracy in order to produce an entirely different and alien order.

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  angech
September 24, 2021 2:55 am

He needs to stop believing the “science” and start listening to real scientists! The ones that are trashed daily by the MSM, celebrities, and Greens.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  angech
September 24, 2021 5:26 am

“He might just be able to change his tune when facing disaster and reverse course.
Whereas a Biden or a labour party leader would not be able to.”

Good point.

Reply to  Redge
September 24, 2021 3:00 am

When will people realise that this “Bojo” and “Boris” is all just marketing to pretend he is our “friend” … his name is Johnson … the most useless PM we have ever had.

Redge
Reply to  Mike Haseler (aka Scottish Sceptic)
September 24, 2021 3:20 am

Except every socialist Pm we’ve ever had and possibly Major

DaveS
Reply to  Redge
September 24, 2021 10:25 am

And May

M Courtney
Reply to  Redge
September 24, 2021 1:54 pm

The Socialist PMs gave us the NHS, the Open University and the Minimum Wage. They were great.
John Major was the last competent Conservative PM.
The current PM is so useless even many Tories are pretending he’s not a Conservative.

Redge
Reply to  M Courtney
September 24, 2021 11:02 pm

I’ll give you the NHS, a wonderful institution, but the Open University is just another woke place of learning how to be a socialist

High Treason
September 23, 2021 11:16 pm

The exact opposite-the world needs to grow up and stop believing scary fairy tales. Tales of catastrophic anthropogenic global warming-the world will go down in flames all die to the 3% of atmospheric CO2 increase that is of human origin-scary fairy tales.
A virus that is as “deadly” as seasonal influenza necessitates shutting down the world economy and confiscating freedoms- another deliberately scary fairy tale that is being used for nefarious purposes.
Yes, it is time to grow up and stop believing fairy tales.

Loydo
Reply to  High Treason
September 23, 2021 11:29 pm

 the 3% of atmospheric CO2 increase that is of human origin

According to Willie Soon its 100%.

Ed Zuiderwijk
Reply to  Loydo
September 24, 2021 1:51 am

You are right. That 3% of increases is a nonsense and it would be a good idea to not regurgitate it ad infinitum. BUT, even at 100% it is irrelevant, it makes little difference to the energy balance of the planet. In fact, should CO2 increase tenfold, to 3000 ppm, the effect on the surface temperature would be less than 2C degrees.

DMacKenzie
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
September 24, 2021 6:26 am

And your backup references for that 2 C claim are where? IPCC would put 3000 ppm up there in the 8C range. It would be nice for everyone to know where your 2C number came from.

HotScot
Reply to  Loydo
September 24, 2021 8:34 am

And 3% of atmospheric CO2 represents what in terms of historic global warming, assuming Co2 is the problem, and the only problem?

You can’t say because you don’t know. It’s all just fantasy i your little head.

Peter K
Reply to  High Treason
September 23, 2021 11:39 pm

That’s 3% of 415ppm or 0.0415%?

griff
Reply to  High Treason
September 24, 2021 1:23 am

And yet we see heatwaves, record temperatures, droughts and fires setting new records… we see devastating flash floods with truly extreme rainfall.

Reply to  griff
September 24, 2021 1:54 am

Yes Griff, when the media tells you. And you believe them after all of these years of make-believe disasters?
CO2 has not, does not and cannot cause global warming. For a surface temperature of 15.5 deg.C, the current average Earth temperature, 99.8% of the photons that can be absorbed by atmospheric CO2 molecules are in the 15 micron wavelength band. That is the warming that you would receive standing in the ice and snow at the South Pole on the odd day when the temperature falls to -80 deg.C.
It is pure and simply a hoax by the UN to try and gain political control of the world. As 40 years have past without success, they, together with other corrupt organisations and people, have used the World Health Organisation to create a virus bioweapon and then announce a cure in the form of an mRNA gene therapy bioweapon.
Wake up !

Peter K
Reply to  Bevan
September 24, 2021 3:53 pm

There was no dent in the amount of CO2, measured, during the lockdowns of two of the biggest emitters. Namely China and USA. From that, litmus test, anthropogenic content is virtually nil. Spend as much as you like with a nil result.

Peter K
Reply to  Peter K
September 24, 2021 3:55 pm

Sorry that was meant for griff

Joao Martins
Reply to  griff
September 24, 2021 2:06 am

And yet we see heatwaves, record temperatures, droughts and fires setting new records… we see devastating flash floods with truly extreme rainfall.

Good, griff!

If you are talking from your personal experience, that is a good sign: it means that you have eyes (and, eventually, other sense organs)!

That is to say, you have the most important organs through which empirical observations are made.

But, as several scientists of the past have stressed, eyes (senses) are not enough: a good observation has always a theory behind it (I quote freely from Charles Darwin, but others have written similar things; Isaac Newton, for instance).

So, the next step is to demonstrate that you have a brains — the organ through which theories are formulated.

If you succeed in that demonstration, then you are prepared to make good observations, good empirical observations. That is to say, to produce good theories with which to “provoke” nature so that you then can observe its reaction (this is the summary of a long lesson on epistemology by Gaston Bachelard).

Good luck, griff, in your endeavour to become a scientist! But beware and don’t forget, you have a loooong way to go!

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Dennis
Reply to  griff
September 24, 2021 3:07 am

One example in reply.

The 2019/20 bushfire season in Australia was promoted by the leftists as the worst ever and a clear sign of the planet warming.

No, it was not the worst bushfire season, it was somewhere down the list since 1788 when the British colonised Australia and discovered well maintained bushland and grassland Australian Aborigines had looked after using their seasonal (when weather conditions are suitable) burning tradition, and burning in a patchwork pattern every few years in rotation to reduce fire fuel on the ground and cool fires that do the least damage and enable wildlife to escape.

From when the UN Agenda 21 was signed circa 1990 and State Forests set aside for sustainable logging became UN registered National Parks land management fell behind and fuel on the ground increased. Add a severe, but not the worst ever, drought and a long dry period and bushfires were hot and damaging.

One other, floods.

Australia is the land of droughts and flooding rains and like bushfires being a regular event so are floods. In fact Aborigines have described far worse floods and bushfires than experienced since 1788 when Britain colonised Australia.

Mark BLR
Reply to  griff
September 24, 2021 3:19 am

And yet we see […] new records …

Go to NOAA’s “Daily Weather Records” website (direct link).

Click on the “Global Summaries” tab, then scroll down to the “Global All Time Records Summary” table.

From the “Last 365 days” line :
– High Max : 707
– Low Min : 138
– Precipitation : 157
– Snowfall : 76

While it cannot be assumed that the numbers for one 365-day period can be taken as “the climate”, which is typically a 30-year average, they would indicate that “typically” you would expect to see :
– One or (more often) two “Hottest EVAH ! ! !” records established every single day
– A new “Coldest EVAH ! ! !” and a new “Highest rainfall EVAH ! ! !” record every 2 or 3 days
– 70 or 80 new “Deepest snow depth EVAH ! ! !” records each year, though these will tend to be in two groups 6 months apart (NH and SH winter peaks).

we see heatwaves, record temperatures, droughts and fires setting new records… we see devastating flash floods with truly extreme rainfall

Yes we do.

It’s completely normal, and has happened since time immemorial.

So f-ing what ?

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Reply to  griff
September 24, 2021 5:01 am

And yet we see heatwaves, record temperatures, droughts and fires setting new records… we see devastating flash floods with truly extreme rainfall.

Well griff WE dont. Only YOU do. And that’s because you arent looking at facts, but at propaganda pushing newspapers

MarkW
Reply to  griff
September 24, 2021 5:36 am

We;ve been seeing heat waves etc since forever.
The current ones are well in line with historical ones.

Garboard
Reply to  griff
September 24, 2021 8:37 am

In the US 21 all time state record high temps that still stand today were set in one year , 1936 . In 2021 not one state record high temp was set . Oregon’s 119 record from 1898 still stands . ..And astoundingly NOAA claims summer 2021 was hotter than 1936 which endured 3 unbroken months of unbelievable heat . That alone should make you think twice about NOAA / media temperature claims .

Garboard
Reply to  Garboard
September 24, 2021 8:42 am

And as for ida’s rain : in 1969 cat 5 hurricane Camille flattened the gulf coast and went on to dump 27 inches of rain in Virginia . Ida dumped less than 10 on NY . …past weather was much worse than present weather , but media coverage is relentless and human suffering is hard to watch 24/7 .

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Dave Fair
Reply to  Garboard
September 24, 2021 2:15 pm

An average of year-round temperature anomalies from all over a State does not reflect the true magnitude of high temperatures realized during the summer months. Actual high temperatures on a daily basis is the true representation of heat waves. NOAA’s smearing anomalies over an entire year hides the truth and I assume its purposeful.

HotScot
Reply to  griff
September 24, 2021 8:46 am

No we don’t. You just make it all up in your tiny mind and ignore the facts. Wildfires are fewer now than at almost any time in history. Record cold temperatures are also set almost daily across the world, what do they mean? Whilst in one place there are droughts, in another their is record rainfall. We don’t ever hear you mentioning the devastating, record setting heat in 1930’s USA, because it doesn’t exist in your fantasy world.

If there are not fewer, there are certainly no more hurricanes than generations ago, mostly because satellites can detect them. There are fewer tornadoes across the USA than historically recorded, that’s even with doppler and satellites.

How can this possibly be griff? Perhaps the tiny rise in temperatures at the poles is influencing the clash between that cold air, with warm air from equatorial regions so they aren’t quite as confrontational. Hmmmmmmmmm…..After all, the IPCC tells us warming will be predominantly in the hemispheres leaving equatorial regions largely unaffected. Or did you miss that bit.

pigs_in_space
Reply to  griff
September 24, 2021 10:02 pm

Griff, “oh mummy I wet my pants….mummy what do I do now”?

Dennis G Sandberg
September 23, 2021 11:28 pm

He gets most of his ideas from his barber.

layor nala
Reply to  Dennis G Sandberg
September 24, 2021 12:14 am

Impossible – he doesn’t look as though he uses a barber. Looks like a home cut job.

michel
September 23, 2021 11:31 pm

What’s happening is that the UK (and Germany) are coming face to face with the fact that renewable generation is not fit for purpose. You have to have so much available backup that you are quite literally better off not having it at all.

The problem is not simply that there are fluctuations. The problem is that these are huge and have very deep consequences. The supply can go from one third or more of generation to close to zero in a matter of hours, and it can remain there for unpredictable periods varying from a few hours to two or three weeks.

In the UK this is particularly likely to happen in the middle of winter, when there are fairly regular slow moving high pressure systems which produce clear skies, very cold weather, and no wind.

This happens at the same time as the days are shorter so solar produces also far less, and does not produce it after 5pm when peak residential demand happens.

The problem comes with the consequences of such a fluctuation, when wind and solar make up a substantial part of generation. The first consequence is that conventional generation has to be switched in. This requires gas, since the greens have turned off coal. This then raises demand for gas just at the point where gas demands for heat and hot water are also peaking. This then raises prices, and it may also mean that industrial uses of gas and electricity must be cut in order to keep homes heated.

We then find that odd critical supplies of apparently unrelated industrial products produce a ripple effect through the economy, as when fertiliser manufacture is suspended with the unexpected consequence that there is no CO2 available for use in meat production and packaging. The whole economy runs on relatively cheap and reliably available energy. Cut that off, and the consequences are huge and far reaching.

You can imagine that if the government’s agenda of moving to EVs and heat pumps for all home heating is really enacted, the failure of supply during January and February will do huge amounts of collateral damage. It will show up in all kinds of unexpected places. Whoever would have thought, after all, that a couple of weeks of calm weather would lead to a shortage of meat and poultry?

To avoid all this you have to maintain a conventional generating capacity and fuel stocks able fully to replace the renewables at fairly short notice. This means running coal plants in standby, and having large amounts of gas capacity ready to go. And, as is becoming increasingly apparent, the green dream of heat pumps and EVs is only doable if you reduce the number of cars by 90% and in addition build or reactivate coal-fired power stations. Heat pumps? Probably impossible to get enough power in the coldest months to drive them.

In short, its becoming clear that the government agenda on energy and climate is simply impossible to realize. That wind and solar are worse than useless. Serious attempts at it will lead inexorably to three day weeks and mass unemployment.

The other thing that is becoming admitted in the run-up to COP26 is that all this will make zero difference to the alleged rationale for it. Its all supposed to be being done because global emissions and climate. But its now increasingly being admitted in the UK, and interestingly in Germany too, that none of this will have any effect on global emissions as long as China, India and the others carry on with their current plans.

The UK is headed for a crisis not only of electricity and energy supply this winter, but also of beliefs. Its getting harder and harder to deny the realities of energy supply and of who is doing the lion’s share of the emitting and how pointless the local green program is.

There are cracks in the wall of denial appearing now in the BBC. Coverage of Germany and its energy crisis the other day, interview with a small business owner sadly wondering what effect ‘little Germany’ could have on global emissions, even if it does limit its own. The first small mentions in the Guardian that the recent shortage of wind has something to do with the problem.

There is reason both for pessimism and optimism. Be pessimistic about the coming winter, if you live in the UK, and prepare for the worst. But be surprisingly optimistic about COP26, which seems increasingly likely to confront the crazed climate alarmists with inescapable political and energy realities.

They are starting to recover their senses, one at a time and slowly, but its happening.

spock
Reply to  michel
September 24, 2021 12:18 am

Very well said! it is impossible for so-called “renewables” to replace coal. Solar and wind are intermittent and expensive to build and maintain. You cannot run a modern economy with solar and wind. Fugetaboutit!

Coal on the other hand is cheap, reliable and abundant. There is enough coal in the world to last several thousand years. Coal will be around for a very long time. This great book explains why
The moral case for fossil fuels

AC Osborn
Reply to  spock
September 24, 2021 12:58 am

Not only that but the cash invested in Wind & Solar, is not avaialbale to be invested in proper generation & storage.

griff
Reply to  spock
September 24, 2021 1:22 am

98% of UK power last year and in 2019 was not coal.

Gary
Reply to  griff
September 24, 2021 1:31 am

And that is the issue. We wouldn’t be in this mess if we still burned coal, putting back the CO2 that was once in our atmosphere, like the rest of the world.

MarkW
Reply to  griff
September 24, 2021 5:39 am

And look at all the problems you have been having.

Dave Fair
Reply to  griff
September 24, 2021 2:21 pm

What kind(s) of power?

Reply to  spock
September 24, 2021 2:01 am

Coal on the other hand is cheap, reliable and abundant.

In some part of the world

There is enough coal in the world to last several thousand years.

Er no., At best some of the world has about a hundred years of it. The rest has already run out of economic coal.

And at that point – the point where coal is simply more expensive than nuclear by a factor of 2 or 3 to one, is the point at which we stop mining coal for energy. We will probably still mine it for steel of course

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MarkW
Reply to  Leo Smith
September 24, 2021 5:40 am

At least 400 years worth of coal, probably closer to 1000.

Jack Black
Reply to  MarkW
September 24, 2021 1:32 pm

La Cohone coal mine in Columbia, supplied 60% of all coal burnt in Europe’s power stations for 50 years, and in doing so mined out about one and a half mountains, in a range of several thousands of mountains, stretching from Venezuela to Chile. Say there was only 1,000 mountains with economic coal, then at that rate they could continue doing so for another 30,000 years perhaps. And that’s just northern South America ! Will Humans still exist in 30,000 years? That’s a moot point indeed. If we do persist, surely by that time we’ll have pocket nuclear fusion reactors, or something nobody has thought of yet.

griff
Reply to  michel
September 24, 2021 1:21 am

I’m sorry, this is not the case.

The UK crisis is one of natural gas prices.

Germany in Q1 2021 got 40% of its power from renewables in in the worst possible year for renewables… down from 52% last year.

Even the reactivated UK coal power stations are just 2% of UK electricity. And are off more often than on.

Ed Zuiderwijk
Reply to  griff
September 24, 2021 1:54 am

While being saved by French nuclear and Polish coal power when the renewables were unreliables.

michel
Reply to  griff
September 24, 2021 2:36 am

And why are gas prices rising? Why is gas suddenly in short supply?

Because wind has failed. And because solar does not work after dark.

Your argument, to be valid, would have to show not only that the UK has taken out its coal generation, which we know. It would also have to show that intermittent supplies are sufficient to run the grid. And what the recent crisis shows is that they are not.

By the way, your numbers on Germany. The problem is that they don’t show renewables are fit for purpose. What they show (and the similar UK ones also show it) is that if you make it legally compulsory for retailers to buy wind and solar, they will, and so you will get huge percentage figures, as you do.

But this does not show that the power generated is required or is the cheapest and best way for the retailers to source power. And in fact, the cheapest and best way to source the power needed by the customers would be to trash the wind and solar and run the backups 100% of the time.

Wind and solar are just very shiny and expensive go-faster-stripes on the side of a car. They do nothing useful. There is a reason that nowhere in the world do wind and solar compete with conventional in a free market environment where retailers can choose on economic grounds. If you free the market no-one in their right minds with customers to supply would buy an unpredictable and intermittent supply of energy.

Dave Fair
Reply to  michel
September 24, 2021 2:47 pm

The “green scheme” is now driving retail electric providers into bankruptcy because of “unexpected” price spikes. I use “unexpected” because real electric power professionals have warned for years that shortages and high prices would result from English Lit majors dictating electric power policies. Soviet style five-year (and longer) plans always fail for the consumer. Government politicians and bureaucrats, crony capitalists and NGOs make out like bandits, though.

Lrp
Reply to  michel
September 24, 2021 7:11 pm

You’re arguing with an idiot

Garboard
Reply to  griff
September 24, 2021 8:54 am

So the best case is that even with an abundance of wind and solar renewables can only produce about 50% of necessary electricity demand .. the problem is unreliability/ intermittency not capacity factor .

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Dave Fair
Reply to  griff
September 24, 2021 2:39 pm

Griff, I assume when you use the word “power” you mean “electric energy.” As an electric power engineer and utility manager, I tell you that the “just 2%” source producing energy when you need it is worth far more to you than the 40% to 52% that is not there when you are freezing your ass off.

Additionally, the 40% to 52% variable source produces daily, weekly and monthly fluctuations and stresses on the power system that must be uneconomically countered by operating reliable generation sources in manners in which they were not designed. In the immediate example, fluctuation in gas usage over the year helped lead to supply shortages. When the unreliable generation failed, the high cost of gas replacement screwed you along with everyone else. Happy with your green schemes? You know, the one where English Lit majors are running the electric supply system.

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LdB
Reply to  griff
September 24, 2021 5:32 pm

Turn them off and leave them off since you are really committed 🙂

Pat from kerbob
Reply to  griff
September 24, 2021 9:08 pm

Griff
Think about it
We never used to discuss energy poverty, or rolling blackouts, or grid collapse
We had the odd blackout due to failures and inability of the grid to react.

Now discussion of rolling blackouts and conditioning people that power is not guaranteed are continuous.

Why is that?
What has changed?

September 23, 2021 11:45 pm

Yes, the explanation is simple. He’s ‘effin’ stupid, technically illiterate and being led by the nose by a bunch of power-mad activist scientists. That he has their brass neck to point to COVID when his chief scientific modeller Prof “pants down” Ferguson’s predictions, which panicked him into lockdown, were so grossly exaggerated is beyond parody.

Reply to  John Thorogood
September 24, 2021 2:03 am

The problem is that he is not ‘effin stupid. Ergo he is up to something.

Peter K
September 23, 2021 11:46 pm

Our Prime Minister Scott Morrison has also bowed down to Boris and Joe, after the deal with the nuclear submarines, to build a presence closer to China. Scott Morrison announced that Australia will be injecting money into developing countries, to help build solar and wind farms. He had forgotten that China is designated as a developing country.

Dennis
Reply to  Peter K
September 24, 2021 3:11 am

Developing nations are many.

I doubt that Prime Minister Morrison does not understand what China is, after all they are reneging on a free trade agreement and threatening Australia and other nations with various forms of punishment.

How dare Australia and others mention COVID-19 and call for an investigation into where it came from.

spock
September 24, 2021 12:08 am

He really sounds like a dude who is very frustrated and angry that the world is not bowing to his highness…“It’s time for humanity to grow up” WTF??!

What kind of talk is that? Talking to us as if we were little kids. Screw him! The more he talks like that the more climate cluckers will slip through his fingers.

And the idiotic idea of so-called “renewables” replacing coal is delusional. Coal will be around for a very long time. This great book explains why

The moral case for fossil fuels

Reply to  spock
September 24, 2021 2:05 am

Screw him! The more he talks like that the more climate cluckers will slip through his fingers

Perhaps that is what he wants.


Tom Barr
September 24, 2021 12:13 am

As all the Planet’s anthropogenic problems stem fundamentally from runaway, overpopulation are we seriously to be lectured on green issues by a man with six children who is still happily pumping them out? Grow up, indeed. This is weapons grade hypocrisy.

MarkW
Reply to  Tom Barr
September 24, 2021 5:43 am

None of this world’s problems are caused by overpopulation and it is not running away. In fact population growth has plummeted so fast that the world’s population will peak and start falling in the next decade or two.

Robert Hanson
Reply to  MarkW
September 24, 2021 3:01 pm

Already falling for quite some time in several countries, esp Japan and Italy.

Chris
September 24, 2021 12:33 am

the main problem for the UK, as for all other western nations with nuclear generation capacity is that they were all conned into buying PWR systems so that the USA could offset the costs of developing the naval nuclear reactor. Unless surrounded by water these are difficult to maintain as has been proven. The UK has some very stable safe AGR systems but the replacements are for Chinese/French built! PWR systems that are seriously behind schedule and may not even get to completion. We should all be following the Chinese in building Thorium reactors but there seems no appetite for nuclear after the PWR debacle.

griff
Reply to  Chris
September 24, 2021 1:18 am

I agree, but the Chinese are still a decade off producing a successful commercial prototype Thorium reactor. Then it would need to get built.

If the UK saw one before 2040, I’d be surprised. Meanwhile?

And we are still a long way from a SMR prototype too. Meanwhile?

Pat from kerbob
Reply to  griff
September 24, 2021 8:58 pm

Meanwhile?
Gas and coal of course,
If not nuclear that is the only option

Reply to  Chris
September 24, 2021 2:08 am

No. Thorium is just another technical wet dream. What we want is any reactor that can be got through regulatory approval in less than 3 years and a government and a public that wants them to be built. We know how to build PWRs. So let’s just build them

Ther are no technical proiblems with any reactor class being proposed or built today. The problems are 100% political. You dont solve politics with a technical change.

MarkW
Reply to  Chris
September 24, 2021 5:44 am

Amazing how all problems trace back to the US military.

Patrick MJD
September 24, 2021 12:36 am

BoJo is not running the show. It’s his well connected eco-nutter, Marxist, wife. But he’s got 6 kids to pay for.

Ed Zuiderwijk
Reply to  Patrick MJD
September 24, 2021 1:55 am

At least 6, on thr evidence provided.

Reply to  Patrick MJD
September 24, 2021 2:10 am

No politician is ever running the show. The art of politics is to deal and trade, flatter and bluster, promise and renege, and somehow get a support consensus to achieve whatever it is you want to achieve . Even if that is only staying in power a bit longer.

Klem
September 24, 2021 12:52 am

After Biden’s speech it appears the US will pay $100 billion a year to the UNs Green Fund, and over the next few years the UN will want more and will bump it to $200 billion, then $300 billion and so on.

After the UN has skimmed off enough $ to satisfy its greed, the remainder will be paid to developing countries to build wind farms. Everyone knows developing nations will actually use the cash to buy military hardware. The UN will be arming the world. The Left truly is the side of war and chaos.

IanE
Reply to  Klem
September 24, 2021 1:10 am

Be fair – the odd palace will be built and equipped with a fleet of luxury cars.

Dennis
Reply to  IanE
September 24, 2021 3:13 am

And even more delegates to the UN and staffers (read family and friends) will be located in New York from developing nations.

MarkW
Reply to  Dennis
September 24, 2021 5:46 am

Everyone else is leaving the city, there will be plenty of room for them.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Klem
September 24, 2021 2:59 pm

Xiden never checks the U.S. Constitution before he flaps his jaws. The House of Representatives in Congress (Legislative Branch) originates ALL spending bills. I’m unaware of any desire by the House to throw money at the UN.

I also note another Branch of our government, the Judiciary, represented by the U.S. Supreme Court (SCOTUS), is in the process of slapping around Xiden on a number of issues. He does not have the power his handlers think.

Bruce Cobb
September 24, 2021 12:58 am

It’s time for Boris to shut up and to get a clue.

IanE
September 24, 2021 1:09 am

Well, there is indeed at least a partial explanation – his latest squeeze Carrie Symonds, aka Princess NutNuts, who, of course, has our Bozo by the NutNuts!

griff
Reply to  IanE
September 24, 2021 1:16 am

And you think that the same position on net zero, renewables isn’t shared by the govt as a whole and the whole UK political and scientific and industrial establishment? That this is only Carrie setting this course?

Dave Fair
Reply to  griff
September 24, 2021 3:06 pm

Griff, you should have said “Shared by the venal govt as a whole and the whole corrupt UK political and CliSciFi and crony capitalist establishment.” The quest for net zero with renewables and society modifications will destroy/rearrange the current political and green energy structures throughout the Western world.

griff
September 24, 2021 1:14 am

Well the jury is still out on that Cumbrian coal mine…

Meanwhile the UK still has just 3 coal power plants, all with a hard ‘must close’ date of 2024.

I would point out the coal plant came on line after 55 days with no coal running at all due to unplanned maintenance at UK nuclear plant. Coal coming onstream late summer to cover maintenance is a pattern seen also last year.

What this article ignores is the enormous scale of UK planning towards net zero and renewables: the article quoted is just representing an opinion even that huge amount isn’t enough.

I reiterate the current crisis is because of the price of natural gas, not any shortage of gas available to the UK this winter. If we get our usual windy conditions – and 2021 summer has been the lowest wind in 60 years, an extreme end of the variability, then we’ll be using less gas this winter and saving as a result.

Has any UK renewable policy contributed to this price crisis? No, though perhaps there is an issue around how much gas storage we retained.

MarkW
Reply to  griff
September 24, 2021 5:47 am

griff, you really need to re-read that article on averages and why they are meaningless.
The fact remains that had those coal plants not been available, your grid would have collapsed. More windmills, at a time when windmills are producing no power doesn’t help any.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  MarkW
September 24, 2021 7:14 am

Pop quiz:

zero + zero = ??

Garboard
Reply to  griff
September 24, 2021 9:03 am

Unprecedented low winds caused by climate change becoming the new normal perhaps . ?

Dave Fair
Reply to  griff
September 24, 2021 3:09 pm

Griff, as the UK gets rid of FF plants (coal and gas) and nuclear, what happens during the future (guaranteed) wind shortage?

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Editor
September 24, 2021 1:17 am

He is simply following through on policies already set by his predecessors all the way back to Blair.

It anybody thinks Labour or another Tory leader would do anything different, they are deluding themselves

Reply to  Paul Homewood
September 24, 2021 10:52 am

Back to Thatcher, more like. It’s the politically rich versus the plebs.

griff
September 24, 2021 1:27 am

I am not a political supporter of Boris, but please realise that he didn’t come up with UK green renewable policy, he didn’t get the idea from Carrie, rather that even he has been persuaded by the weight of evidence, though it goes against his own political preferences.

He is putting forward the view held by the overwhelming majority of UK govt, political parties (fringe like UKIP excepted), industry and science, based on the science.

The BBC does not originate this stuff: it represents the mainstream view.

Gary
Reply to  griff
September 24, 2021 9:10 am

The BBC does not simply represent the mainstream view, it’s has helped to direct and manipulate the facts to engineer this mainstream view. A view is formed from a well balanced discussion of both sides of the argument. The case of CO2 not being the earths temperature control is simply not being presented. There is much real science that shows CO2 is nothing more than plant food and does not have any input in regulating the earths temperature – these real facts are being ignored.

DaveS
Reply to  griff
September 24, 2021 10:33 am

When the “mainstream view” is b*llocks, it doesn’t matter who holds it.

Dave Fair
Reply to  DaveS
September 24, 2021 3:11 pm

The Madness of Crowds.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  griff
September 24, 2021 11:56 am

It’s just not the ‘mainstream’ view. The trouble is that a very vocal minority are controlling the narrative. They are ‘the squeaky wheel’.

As my erstwhile boss used to say at wage review time:
“Sometimes the squeaky wheel gets oiled. Sometimes it just gets replaced.”

The false green agenda will get replaced as soon as people start really suffering. That appears to be not very far away.

Robert Hanson
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
September 24, 2021 3:15 pm

Very few people really believe this Green nonsense. As illustrated by the poll mentioned above, where only a small percentage would be willing to spend more than $10 a month to “combat climate change” (sic), nearly half would only be willing to pay $5, and a full half wouldn’t be willing to pay anything at all.

Nearly everyone says they believe in CC, because they don’t want to be labeled a “denier”, lose most of their friends, and possibly even lose their job. They know what they are supposed to say, and due to the fear of the Cancel Culture, they make sure they say it. At least in public….

Dave Fair
Reply to  griff
September 24, 2021 3:13 pm

When “everybody” is telling you something, it is time to grab for your wallet to protect it.

pigs_in_space
Reply to  griff
September 24, 2021 10:11 pm

Here the cretin Griff goes off again with his “the science”!

2nd cretin statement “The BBC …represents the mainstream view.”
FFS!

griff
Reply to  pigs_in_space
September 25, 2021 12:52 am

And I’m still right.

you will be hard pressed to find me anyone in a position of influence or significance in the UK who doesn’t accept the science

pigs_in_space
Reply to  griff
September 25, 2021 10:38 am

There is NO SUCH THING as “the science”.

You have been told repeatedly but the definition of a nutcase, is repeating writing total rubbish, hoping it will achieve something.

Ed Zuiderwijk
September 24, 2021 1:42 am

Boris’ policies are nowadays informed by green pillow talk.

bonbon
September 24, 2021 1:43 am

Of course there is an explanation – the City of London, that independent finance center that actually runs the country. Its Rep. sits beside the Speaker of the House. BoJo was mayor so knows where the money is….
Bank of England chief, Mark Carney, now UN climate Czar, clearly stated the position at the FED confab at Jackson Hole : either firms go green or they will die. That simple.
BlackRock is fully on board, China is not.

September 24, 2021 2:49 am

Not only is gas and electricity beginning to skyrocket in the UK, but today we hear of possible petrol shortages. And to add to the concerns, we now know those who took the jab produce a lot of virus putting others at serious risk if they go out and that there appears to have been a change in the immune system … showing up as an increase in allergy to hair dye …although I can’t pin down whether that is specific to those who had the jab. And, no doubt someone is going to say this is going to be a cold winter.

MarkW
Reply to  Mike Haseler (aka Scottish Sceptic)
September 24, 2021 5:49 am

we now know those who took the jab produce a lot of virus putting others at serious 

The paranoia and ignorance knows no bounds.

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Peta of Newark
September 24, 2021 3:36 am

I was gonna let this story ride – it was on the beeb daaaaays ago UNTIL, I came upon this little gem.
Quote:”the destruction we are inflicting, not just upon our planet but ourselves”.

As you will all be tediously aware, I don’t drink: Boris does
OK ok ok, its a free world but what really gets my goat is the folks who claim that they ‘can handle it
And after 17 years of not drinking, I can not ‘handle it’
I have become supremely sensitive to even minute amounts of alcohol
If nothing else, underscores what truly grotesque stuff it really is.

My problem of this very minute (now= 11:35 AM BST) – it started when I attempted to get outta bed this morn,
I didn’t want to – ‘something’ was really badly wrong with me. I was dizzy, headachey and ‘just wanted to sleep’
I went outside ‘for air’ and came upon my neighbour, a retired mechanical engineer

Thus we got into a craic about the woes that afflicted my ride-on lawnmower yesterday.
It was patently obviously that the new E10 petrol had melted a lot of the rubber in its fuel line, in the carb and some mysterious yellow jello-like ‘stuff had appeared from somewhere within??????
Translucent little globs like miniature frog-spawn? wtf was that stuff?

Then. It. Dawned.
From my messing about, out of doors on my driveway, with that bastid petrol yesterday afternoon/evening, I’ve come away with a hangover this morning

Unintended consequences eh.
What about ‘think of the children’. How sensitive are they? Brings a whole new dimension to ‘solvent abuse’ also.

Thank you Boris. Thank you for <expletive> nothing.

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Mr.
Reply to  Peta of Newark
September 24, 2021 8:47 am

So the thing to do Peta is to try a “hair of the dog”.

Put your nose right into that mower’s petrol tank and take a big long sniff.

You’ll then realize that you didn’t really feel that crook beforehand after all.🥵🤯

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Peta of Newark
September 24, 2021 12:01 pm

Peta, you need to accept the fact that the human body actually produces alcohol itself. Some people with certain disorders are actually drunk all of the time because their body does not properly process this naturally produced alcohol.

Since may argue that this is generated from carbohydrates, but the fact is that the body actually runs on carbohydrates, and creates sugars for energy from pretty much anything it can.

Rod Evans
September 24, 2021 3:55 am

Seriously? Are the BBC now so far removed from reality they describe a lovely summer with light airs, as “Adverse weather conditions”?
Can someone please remove the BBC’s editorial teams access to mind altering substances. It has to be that, which is causing them to behave in this ridiculous uneducated manner, what else can it be? They have obviously overdosed on tumbling walrus!

2hotel9
September 24, 2021 4:13 am

If BoJo was 1/2 the man his mom was he would go out and cut the electric line to his home and shut off the gas and water. Man up, BoJo, make your mom proud!.

Tom Abbott
September 24, 2021 4:55 am

From the article: “A climate summit of world leaders in 40 days’ time will be the “turning point for humanity”, PM Boris Johnson has said in a speech to the United Nations.
He warned that global temperature rises were already inevitable, but called on his fellow leaders to commit to major changes to curb further warming.”

How many times have we heard the end of the world proclaimed? Too many times.

Boris claims temperature rises are inevitable while at the same time temperatures have cooled by 0.5C since 2016. Boris is a little bit out of touch with reality it seems. Alarmists like Boris seem to live in the “hottest year evah!” even when the temperatures are cooling. It’s a mental thing.

Tom Abbott
September 24, 2021 4:57 am

From the article: “The prime minister also said it was time to listen to the warnings of scientists. “Look at Covid if you want an example of gloomy scientists being proved right.”

Bad example.

Rusty
September 24, 2021 5:07 am

Boris, once upon a time, was actually a good constituency MP. I voted for him. I didn’t vote Conservative at the last election and never will again.*

I think that says it all.

*I won’t vote Labour, Lib Dem or Green either.

MarkW
September 24, 2021 5:26 am

His lady fair has informed him that unless he gets really tough on CO2, he’s not going to get any action tonight.

Andrew Wilkins
September 24, 2021 5:33 am

Speaking of the Beeb, a reporter has just been on their TV news telling us all about the “school strikes” and the doom-pixie Greta.
The journalist reported that all the German forests are dying because Germany is suffering from a declining level of precipitation. It took me 30 seconds on Google to find out that the trend in German precipitation levels is surprisingly underwhelming (if there is a trend at all).
Why is the Beeb allowed to get away with reporting lies?

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DaveS
Reply to  Andrew Wilkins
September 24, 2021 10:35 am

It’s what it’s good at.

Andrew Wilkins
Reply to  DaveS
September 24, 2021 10:37 am

Too true.

Pat from kerbob
Reply to  Andrew Wilkins
September 24, 2021 8:23 pm

Griff said it’s wetter, flooding OMG

I believe Griff over the bbc on this one

griff
Reply to  Pat from kerbob
September 25, 2021 12:50 am

I should hope you would believe the UK Met Office when it says it is 6% wetter in the UK than 30 years ago (and that’s an average: the excess rainfall is nowhere near evenly distributed)

Andrew Wilkins
Reply to  griff
September 25, 2021 2:51 am

Griff, when you get back to Thermageddon HQ this evening, you might want to have a chat with Ol’ Nails, as he’s been busy telling everyone it’s getting drier in the UK.
If you’re going to try and convince us that we’re all going to hell in a climate hand-cart, you need to get your stories straight.

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Vuk
September 24, 2021 5:36 am

Finally someone has his thinking hat on:
(UK’s) Ministers are backing a multibillion-pound plan to build another large-scale nuclear power plant in Britain to ease pressure on electricity supplies as the country moves towards net zero.
(‘net zero’ bit is bs)
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/multibillion-pound-plan-to-build-uk-nuclear-power-plant-qrkqchkh7

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Vuk
September 25, 2021 4:25 am

A little sanity in an insane world (Western Democracies).

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Tom Abbott
September 25, 2021 4:33 am

I see where Poland is contracting to have small nuclear reactors built inside some of their old coal-fired generating plants.

Gerry, England
September 24, 2021 5:43 am

Boris ‘lying womanising oaf’ Johnson is a total moron. He charms people with his clown act but sadly it is not an act – he really is a clown. Perhaps having seen Italy elect a comedian the British voters thought we could have a clown as Prime Minister. Except that the voters did not elect Johnson PM as the position is not subject to election. In the British system the leader of the party with the most seats after an election is invited to be PM. Johnson was elected as party leader from the Tory membership of about 20,000 on the grounds that he was the best!!!!! People voted for Blue Labour in the last election as Red Labour was considered to likely be even worse than the current shambles.

Carlo, Monte
September 24, 2021 6:45 am

BoJo must have taken the jabs, which cause stupidity.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
September 25, 2021 4:29 am

The Wuhan virus can cause stupidity, too. BoJo spent a lot of time in the hospital. The longer the virus is in your body, the more damage it does, including brain damage.

Biden got a lot of his brain damage mechanically, and it’s been downhill from there.

Captain climate
September 24, 2021 7:01 am

I don’t blame Boris because he’s in a hard spot. He has a nation of proto communist voters who believe whole hog in catastrophic climate change. He has to pay them lip service. At the same time, it’s so obvious to anyone doing the math that coal will be here for another century.

Walter Horsting
September 24, 2021 7:13 am

I love how the UK earns on 23% from its investment into RE nameplate.

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John K. Sutherland.
September 24, 2021 7:22 am

A year or two of gas and electricity shortages, will soon sort BoJo out

Tom Abbott
Reply to  John K. Sutherland.
September 25, 2021 4:31 am

That will sort a lot of people out.

Giordano Milton
September 24, 2021 7:33 am

Politicians advocating these insane policies should be limited to using wind and solar power in their lives. Their own travel should be via sailing ships, built of wood, and bicycles on land. Then send him on a trip around the world, where he can do less harm while at sea.

Bruce Cobb
September 24, 2021 9:28 am

Look at Lysenkoism if you want an example of bad, government-backed pseudoscientists loudly proclaimed to be “right” who were eventually proven wrong.

Jack Black
September 24, 2021 12:40 pm

He is not loony, but Luvstruck, every night gazing into these green googly eyes and listening to climate drivel pillow talk, that’s what’s addled his brain. We heard that when in the USA, he’d struck a deal to have Westinghouse build the UK a new fleet of conventional pressurised water nuclear reactors at the old existing sites. Timescale 10-12 years and costs min £15 billion per site. They’re having a larf, John. We taught them all they’ll never know, those jokers at Westinghouse …. Hey, Rolls-Royce Civil Nuclear makes all their spare parts and services all the American, French, and even yes Chinese reactors. Without R-R, they’d all beef hooked !

You know, that’s the same Westinghouse that was wholly owned by the British Government, until that half-witted Gordoom Brine sold it for just 10 million sobs, when it had almost tens times that in orders on the books. We don’t need the Chinese, Japanese, or indeed Americans to build us nuclear reactors.

We have in Rolls-Royce Civil Nuclear, (a wholly owned subsidiary of British Aerospace, the UK government’s arms and munitions business), a company that’s capable of building a fleet of reactors at around £1.5 Billion per Gigawatt per 12 months, at the very minimum. That’s about HALF the cost, in HALF the time as anything we’ve seen from foreign interlopers.

Not only that but the Royal Navy has at least 8 working nuclear reactors, in laid up reserve submarines, each capable of generating over 300MW of electrical power, and a further 150MW at the prop shaft. There’s an instant two and a half GigaWatts, if we’re really that desperate. Do tell those foreigners to shove it, sling their hook, and beetle off; we don’t need em Boris !

Jack Black
Reply to  Jack Black
September 24, 2021 1:50 pm

Duplicate, sorry people -JB

Thomas Gasloli
September 24, 2021 1:06 pm

“Look at Covid if you want an example of gloomy scientists being proved right.”

Ah, no, Boris, it was precisely because the scientists optimistically thought they could perform gain-of-function research on bat viruses at a Chinese lab with poor safety measures that we have Covid. Covid is a demonstration of just how incompetent international science is and just how poor their response is to problems they create.

Climate change is a faux problem created by the science elite who have demonstrated their incompetence with COVID.

Dean
September 24, 2021 11:31 pm

God I hope the Australian contingent take that lump of coal!

September 25, 2021 12:18 am

“The prime minister also said it was time to listen to the warnings of scientists. “Look at Covid if you want an example of gloomy scientists being proved right.”

Har-har-har-har-har-har.

The gloomy mathematical epidemiologists have been consistently proved wrong, so i suppose he means the more realistic ones who have increasingly come to the conclusion that science died in 2020 and are warning of a totalitarian future.

Matthew Sykes
September 25, 2021 12:36 am

As a Brit, let me say that Boris is a child, looking to please everyone, and coming out with random ideas he then has to U turn on almost immediately.

I remember last year he promised us ‘summer schooling’ for kids to catch up. Four hours later he had abandoned the idea.

Now we have him saying Truck drivers are a specialist role and we must have immigration quotas for them.

We didnt vote for Boris, we voted for Cummings, he was the Brexit architect. Instead we got Carrie Antoinette, who now runs the government through Boris. Clearly the old fashioned way ‘do what I want or you dont get you know what tonight’.

He is a child, no long term plan, bluster and BS, that is all he has.

griff
Reply to  Matthew Sykes
September 25, 2021 12:53 am

The idea that govt green ideas and initiatives are solely because Carrie influences Boris is clearly unfounded…

Jack Black
Reply to  griff
September 25, 2021 3:00 am

“solely founded”, well no, that’s a Straw Man fallacy. Nobody’s saying she’s solely responsible for Boris’s newfound green enthusiasm. However she is usurping policy in a fashion, in which she has no democratic authority whatsoever. It’s a bit like she has assumed the position, rather similar the wife of the Mayor of Moscow. You know the lady who sent cashola to Clintons/Bidens or whomever, in order to exert Putinical bonhomie. The actual people, plebs, who cares about their votes, just so long as the endless partying and gunfights never cease ! Ms. Johnston, neé Symonds, nobody elected You to create government policy by proxy.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/apr/30/boris-johnson-carrie-symonds-influence-no-10-extends-much-further-than-decor

Matthew Sykes
Reply to  griff
September 25, 2021 11:32 am

Before Carrie he was dismissive of climate change.

T Walker
September 25, 2021 1:54 am

Eric , Bozo Johnson isn’t a hypocrite. You have to know what your doing to be a hypocrite. He is just a total buffoon. An embarrassing idiot.

He is totally innumerate and scientifically illiterate. He understands climate science less than I understand brain surgery. YouTube him reciting Homer in Ancient Greek. His main adviser is his current wife who has degrees in art and theatre.

oh! And I voted for him, which makes me almost as daft as he is.

dennisambler
September 25, 2021 7:05 am

“Is Boris simply mouthing a bunch of politically convenient words, with no intention of following through?”

Hopefully, after COPS and Robbers 26, he will quietly walk away from the worst extremes of this nonsense. He is famous for U-turns. It depends how much push back he gets. He has an eco-warrior family in addition to his ultra-green wife. Dad Stanley is “International Adviser” to the “Conservative Environmental Network”, journalist sister Rachel is a director of a Conservative millennials think tank which is pushing Net Zero, called “Bright Blue”, but are dark green.

ImranCan
September 25, 2021 12:24 pm

As a Brit who has met Boris and watched his performance as PM, I can say that the reason for his troubles is that he is numerically and scientifically illiterate.

richard
September 26, 2021 8:46 am

in a decade or so when all this nonsense really bites the architects of this lunacy will be long gone, retired in some warm country.

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