Bloomberg: Nowhere is Safe from the Climate Apocalypse

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

The recent resurrection of “The Day After Tomorrow” warming causes cooling scenario has panicked climate alarmists, who until recently thought they could ride out the apocalypse by moving somewhere cold.

With Climate Change, There May Be No Best Place to Live

If you’re looking to move somewhere in the U.S. to ride out the climate apocalypse, bad news: The list is growing shorter.

By Francis Wilkinson
19 September 2021, 22:00 GMT+10

Climate change is having a breakout performance this year. Throughout the U.S., the slow-motion calamity long described in scientific studies and news articles has been visible to the naked eye or felt on tingling flesh — here too wet, there too dry, everywhere too hot. It’s only human to wonder where the higher, safer ground might be. Where to run?

Consider America’s two Portlands — Oregon and Maine. Tucked into the northwest and northeast corners of the Lower 48, each was thought to be a safe haven from the ravages of climate change. Not anymore.

In June, Portland [Oregon] reached a record 116 degrees in the midst of a freakish heat wave. The temperature, which followed record-breaking highs on each of the two previous days, could have been worse. In the village of Lytton, British Columbia, 400 miles north of Portland, the temperature hit 121 degrees. Even Seattle experienced triple-digit heat on three consecutive days.

Portland, Maine, is another place that has received attention as a potential refuge from climate chaos. It makes sense. Portland is cool and coastal while being less vulnerable to the sea rise that is already complicating life in many East Coast cities. As one climate scientist told the New York Times in 2016: “Portland is high enough that certainly for the next few centuries it’s not going to have significant sea-level rise.”

On the other hand, Portland is not exactly balmy, with an average low temperature in January of 13 degrees. So any prospect of the city getting colder is cause for concern.

To understand how that could happen, it’s necessary to understand the evolution of the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation, the ocean current system of which the Gulf Stream is a part. The AMOC, as it’s known, transports warm surface waters up the East Coast of North America before crossing the Atlantic to Northern Europe.

Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-09-19/neither-portland-maine-or-oregon-is-refuge-from-climate-change

Michael Mann has been pushing warming causes cooling pretty hard lately, which seems to have upset greens who thought they might be safe if they move somewhere cold.

Imagine what it is like being a dedicated deep green climate alarmist. You move to Portland, Maine, and have your outdoor swimming pool installed, in anticipation of the apocalyptic warming everyone expects, only to discover you might have to fend off mile thick ice sheets. Better make sure those solar panels are ready to warm the house in winter!

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Sweet Old Bob
September 19, 2021 6:07 pm

…”Throughout the U.S., the slow-motion calamity long described in scientific studies and news articles has been visible to the naked eye or felt on tingling flesh — here too wet, there too dry, everywhere too hot. ”

Everywhere too hot ?

Total bullcrap!

Reply to  Sweet Old Bob
September 19, 2021 6:11 pm

Ditto. There is no climate change crisis — just a climate education crisis.

Reply to  John Shewchuk
September 19, 2021 7:39 pm

To the extent that a climate crisis exists, it’s best described as a mass hallucination.

Reply to  co2isnotevil
September 19, 2021 7:54 pm

And the more you can confuse the public — the more control you have over the agenda … https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XCKTq4pmms

Redge
Reply to  co2isnotevil
September 19, 2021 11:19 pm

mass delusion

Geoffrey Williams
Reply to  co2isnotevil
September 20, 2021 1:33 am

Agreed, it is mass indoctrination . .

Pat from kerbob
Reply to  John Shewchuk
September 19, 2021 7:56 pm

No, it’s a climate policy crisis.

Going to require a Nuremberg style crimes against humanity tribune, chaired by the poorest people in the world to mete out all the punishment when the time comes.

I’d suggest Mussolini as a model for Mann

Reply to  Pat from kerbob
September 19, 2021 8:21 pm

I’m afraid the trails will need to be global … https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vb7JRK4Yko

Philip
Reply to  John Shewchuk
September 19, 2021 8:28 pm

It’s a good Bingo, we have a winner!!
You are exactly correct.

Barry James
Reply to  John Shewchuk
September 19, 2021 8:52 pm

The real crisis it the one caused by school curriculums that teach our children the lie that CO2 from fossil fuels at a deadly pollutant that will destroy the Earth if we don’t take “climate action” now!

Reply to  Barry James
September 20, 2021 2:56 am

Exactly — education. I’ve read the propaganda manual teachers use to spread false information — and our taxes helped pay for it … https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pYE_F9PhiI

Sara
Reply to  Barry James
September 20, 2021 3:54 am

Naw, beer and soda pop without CO2 are flat. CO2 is necessary for fizzy drinks. Remember that before you pop the can top.

LdB
Reply to  Sweet Old Bob
September 19, 2021 6:35 pm

It’s like millions of climate refugees you just have to have a vivid imagination and completely lost sense of reality.

Mr.
Reply to  LdB
September 19, 2021 7:25 pm

They do exist.
Check out all the New Yorkers in Miami in January, or all the Melbournians at the Gold Coast in July.

LdB
Reply to  Mr.
September 20, 2021 5:21 am

We call them climate geese 🙂

StephenP
Reply to  LdB
September 19, 2021 11:11 pm

The climate refugees may find the UK a trifle cool compared to what they are used to.
Whenever my sister visits from Italy she always complains that feels so cold, even in summer.

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  StephenP
September 20, 2021 12:00 pm

My niece visited me in northern Portugal back in June. She lives in Naples, Florida. All she did was complain about how cold it was here! We have had a cool summer, temps staying in the 20s along the coast, but it was lovely IMO.

Shoki Kaneda
Reply to  Sweet Old Bob
September 19, 2021 6:55 pm

We have had a really nice summer. Haven’t turned on the AC once.

Sara
Reply to  Shoki Kaneda
September 20, 2021 3:55 am

Ditto here in my kingdom. Chilly nights, too, light blanket weather. Very pleasant.

Rick W Kargaard
Reply to  Shoki Kaneda
September 20, 2021 8:26 am

Our July was hot after a cold spring. Nothing I haven’t seen before several times. But then I am an old codger.

Alexy Scherbakoff
Reply to  Sweet Old Bob
September 19, 2021 8:02 pm

It’s the news articles that are visible. The tingling flesh is when you get spanked with it.

Cosmic
Reply to  Sweet Old Bob
September 21, 2021 9:48 am

“Everywhere too hot”? Yeah, the average high and low for my location in January is 21F/2F. Um, that ain’t hot. In fact it hit -29F just 2 winters ago. Winters have gotten slightly warmer in my lifetime but fractions of a degree and summers have been progressing cooler since 1930.

Tom Halla
September 19, 2021 6:10 pm

So, War is peace, Freedom is slavery, and Ignorance is strength,? Warming is cooling?

SxyxS
Reply to  Tom Halla
September 20, 2021 3:23 am

No !Warming is communism.
Try to sell the commie crap on a global scale (Agenda 21 ) without an apocalypse and noone will buy it.
Therefore there is no alternative to an apocalypse from cabals point of view.
Communism always needs one ultimate enemy( bourgeoisie,capitalism,co2)
so they can come up with the one ultimate solution(= hypercentralised communism disguised as something else)
That’s why climate science is more Lysenko then Lysenkoism ever was.
It’s not only that all their bold predictions completely failed and that the climate gates exposed their tricks,
It’s also totally unscientific and 100% impossible that all regions will suffer from warming (or cooling)
Even an increase of 10 degrees wont turn antarctica into a warm place and many regions will thrive as result of more evaporation = more rain.

In fact the officially most threatened places are the places where Bloomberg, Obama and Al Gore buy their Mansions=front beaches ,islands etc as even those at higher locations will be rendered useless by flooded streets,destroyed infrastructures and grocery stores that can no longer be reached by trucks.

Another nonsense is that the Atlantic circulation will
slow down.
1)The warmer it gets the more energy is inside those stream.
2)When greenland was green the arctic sea ice next door was a tiny joke compared to the size of todays and neither the massive melt of arctic nor Greenland ice was able to slow down Atlantic circulation.
The opposite was true- warmer climate,increased Atlantic circulation = more warm air to cold regions=massive population increase during medieval warm period,(and population increase is an apocalypse for malthusians.)
The Atlantic circulation wont slow down for the same reasons co2 has no runaway / tipping point,as many years of higher co2 and warmer temperatures failed to do so throughout history.

Jon R
Reply to  SxyxS
September 20, 2021 8:56 pm

You won today’s internet, congrats

Rick W Kargaard
Reply to  Tom Halla
September 20, 2021 8:24 am

According to PM Trudeau Diversity is strength. Try that in the military.

The Saint
September 19, 2021 6:25 pm

I’m beginning to think that the only justice for the crazy people of planet earth is a very large asteroid and very soon. Let God sort out who is bad and who is good.

n.n
Reply to  The Saint
September 19, 2021 7:00 pm

Vogons. It’s not personal, just progress.

SxyxS
Reply to  n.n
September 20, 2021 3:28 am

It was also progress that turned the stiff,white,british Ford Prefect black.
Those Vogons must be so advanced to pull a reversed Michael Jackson on him.

Rick W Kargaard
Reply to  SxyxS
September 20, 2021 8:30 am

Had one of those prefect cars way back when. Lasted about 100 miles on Canadian mud roads of the time. Had a Model A as well, it went through almost anything even though it was older than me.

Sara
Reply to  n.n
September 20, 2021 4:01 am

It’s the real reason we are never actually visited by space aliens, y’know. Klingons, Vulcan, Vogons — even the millions inputting their opinions of Earth persons at the hearing in defense of Earth (Have Spacesuit, Will Travel) thought we should be rotated out of the galactic plane. Eeeewwww!

Of course, Wormface and his bunch were worse, sooo…

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  Sara
September 20, 2021 8:39 am

Wow, that was a blast from the past!

Sara
Reply to  D. J. Hawkins
September 20, 2021 1:07 pm

Thank you. Every time I get discouraged, I pick up one of those books and have a chill glass of water on the side.

Mike McMillan
Reply to  The Saint
September 19, 2021 7:06 pm

I think your dinosaur-class asteroid whack is RCP 7.2.

The main difference between RCP 7.2 and RCP 8.5 is that 7.2 could actually happen.

Stephen Lindsay-Yule
Reply to  Mike McMillan
September 20, 2021 12:05 am

The 8.5 watts is cooling at the top of atmosphere.
-61°C (before) 116.70 watts 21°C (negative at top of atmosphere is assumed equal positive at surface) -66°C (-5°C) 108.18, 26°C (+5°C) at local level.
(116.7 w-m²-108.18 w-m²=8.52 w-m²) This isn’t true at global level.

Currently the high latitudes in southern hemisphere (-88°C) has lower temperatures (unlike high latitudes in northern hemisphere -57°C) than at lower latitudes at top of atmosphere(-70°C).

At surface 21°C (423.61w-m²) – 26°C (453.18) = 5°C 29.56 w-m². What’s worse is they imagine at higher temperatures.

Around -12.9°C (259w-m²) to -15.06°C (250.99w-m²). This is 2.16°C.

Climate models ignores measurements and so tune into an imaginary world.

mkelly
Reply to  Stephen Lindsay-Yule
September 20, 2021 6:45 am

You say:”At surface 21°C (423.61w-m²) – 26°C (453.18) = 5°C 29.56 w-m². What’s worse is they imagine at higher temperatures.”

Since temperature is not additive this makes no sense.

Stephen Lindsay-Yule
Reply to  Mike McMillan
September 20, 2021 12:23 am

The 8.5 watts is cooling at the top of atmosphere assumed warming surface.
-61°C (before) 116.70 w-m²
21°C 423.61w-m²
(negative at top of atmosphere is assumed equal positive at surface)
-66°C (-5°C) 108.18w-m²,
26°C (+5°C) 453.18w-m²
at local level.
(116.7 w-m²-108.18 w-m²=8.52 w-m²)
This isn’t true at global level.

Currently TOA the high latitudes in southern hemisphere (-88°C) has lower temperatures (unlike high latitudes in northern hemisphere -57°C) than at lower latitudes at (-70°C).

At surface 21°C (423.61w-m²) – 26°C (453.18) = 5°C 29.56 w-m². What’s worse is they imagine at higher temperatures.

Around -12.9°C (259w-m²) to -15.06°C (250.99w-m²). This is 2.16°C.
Climate models ignores measurements therefore tuning the models into an imaginary world.

Richard (the cynical one)
September 19, 2021 6:25 pm

“Cooling is the new warming”. I think that is from Orwell’s ‘Animal Farm’.

n.n
Reply to  Richard (the cynical one)
September 19, 2021 7:01 pm

[catastrophic] [anthropogenic] climate cooling… warming… change. Undeniable. Unfalsifiable.

SxyxS
Reply to  Richard (the cynical one)
September 20, 2021 3:43 am

Cooling was no warming as long as the recycled ice age scare was called global warming,
but as soon global warming was renamed climate change everything was result of climate change.

Fun fact: as soon as the masterrace of Anglo-American cultural and scientific imperialists renamed AGW into climate change all western countries did the same things in their own languages.
Same thing as with all those wars.
Though everyone knows that the war is based on lies,just like the previous 50 wars ,
they will all either support or tolerate the war because the Anglo-American empire said so.

Those western politicians are such good dogs and minions
that their brains work the same ways as those of climate scientists.

TonyL
September 19, 2021 6:34 pm

This is not too hard.
Just go to the Caribbean islands. The island temperature is mediated by the ocean, with evaporation and consequent cloud formation, mostly every day. The tropics, particularly the Caribbean islands, are already about as hot as they are going to get. They are not going to get any warmer. One would think that climate scientists, who have devoted their lives to the study of the world’s climates, would already know this.

Curious that they seem not to.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  TonyL
September 19, 2021 8:52 pm

There isn’t a climate scientist alive who doesn’t know the extent of the fraud. After all, they orchestrated the whole thing from the beginning. They are merely doing what they were instructed to do … for “The Cause”.

StephenP
Reply to  Rory Forbes
September 19, 2021 11:20 pm

What do they think are the objectives of The Cause?

Rory Forbes
Reply to  StephenP
September 20, 2021 12:19 am

Oh … I imagine it’s the usual social justice nonsense the Left has been peddling since 13 February 1832. “Intellectuals” have been trying to beat life into it for nearly 200 years without success. They call it by different names to no avail.

They think by lying, cheating and wasting other people’s hard earned money to fix a world that has no need of their help is all worth it. They’re just busybodies that the world has too many of. Frankly I really don’t think they know themselves.

SxyxS
Reply to  Rory Forbes
September 20, 2021 3:51 am

1832?
Malthus has been spouting that crap decades before .
And before Malthus we had Oliver Cromwell.
The first woke.
And after he killed the king to bring peace and wealth and freedom,
Britain turned within a few yearsinto a world wide mass murdering empire for the sake of the East India Company that organized mass slave trade and later the opium wars.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  SxyxS
September 20, 2021 10:34 am

East India Company that organized mass slave trade

I’m pretty sure the slave trade was “well organized” long before that, if it’s the African slave trade you’re referring to. There was some complicity with the opium wars.

DMacKenzie
Reply to  Rory Forbes
September 20, 2021 8:07 am

Once the social butterflies get involved, whole economies and employment schemes can be developed for the supposed “good” of all. Consider the police/prison system. Reforming criminals instead of punishing them with 40 lashes is exceedingly expensive. But prisons, police, courts, fines, etc. spin many $ through the economy, cause lots of construction, and jobs, plus goal posts are easily resettable by political agenda, such as the east bloc neighbor-reporting-on-neighbor schemes, or legalizing pot.
CC is currently under development as an economic scheme.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  DMacKenzie
September 20, 2021 10:56 am

I suppose it isn’t new on this planet, the idea of civic works filtering the cost through a bloated administration, then a pork fed bureaucracy and finally as “investment bonuses” to the instigators. For instance, the IPCC is nothing more than a filter to direct funds into the UNs agenda to assume control as a world government. Very little of the initial “investment” finds it’s way to the original project or need.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Rory Forbes
September 20, 2021 9:19 am

For “The Money.”

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Dave Fair
September 20, 2021 10:58 am

Oh yes, that too 🙂

Rusty
Reply to  TonyL
September 20, 2021 5:20 am

That won’t work, the Caribbean will cease to exist having been destroyed by hundreds of hurricanes a year – all due to CO2 of course.

Rob_Dawg
September 19, 2021 6:35 pm

• Portland, ME, USA: July is the hottest month in Portland with an average temperature of 20.5°C (69°F) and the coldest is January at -6°C (21°F).
• Singapore: February is the hottest month in Singapore with an average temperature of 27°C (81°F) and the coldest is January at 26°C (79°F)
Clearly one is uninhabitable.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Rob_Dawg
September 19, 2021 9:00 pm

I’ll bet it doesn’t get any colder than the late 1970’s.

I did just fine in the late 1970’s, as I’m sure most others did, weatherwise, anyway..

One of the things I wish I had in the 1970’s was the internet. Then I could have expressed my frustration with Human-caused Global Cooling in public.

As it was, all I could do was grumble as each new unsubstantiated Global Cooling claim came out in Scientific American. I would love to have had access to their email address back then. I had a thing or two to say about them treating Human-caused Global Cooling as established fact when no facts had ever been presented. Just like today with Human-caused Global Warming/Climate change.

I cancelled my subscription to Scientific American over the Human-caused Global Cooling/Global Warming issue. The science got sidetracked into speculation and politics.

I signed up for Apple+ which gives you a subscription to dozens of magazines and one of those magazines is Scientific American, so I’ve read a few issues and its worse than it ever was. It has some good strictly scientific articles, but it’s just filled with politics surrounding climate change. There was an opinion piece in the last issue I read talking about climate change deniers. In Scientific American.

The only explanation is mass delusion. Not total delusion of the masses, but enough to make it seem like it is.

Steve Case
Reply to  Tom Abbott
September 20, 2021 1:24 am

A while back, Kip Hansen put up links to Covering Climate Now, an organization that coordinates Global Warming propaganda from various media outlets so that they all sing the same song. You will note from the link below that Scientific American is among the signatories:

https://coveringclimatenow.org/the-press-and-the-climate-emergency/

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Steve Case
September 20, 2021 4:30 am

Yes, I saw Kip’s articles on the coordination of the climate change talking points by news outlets and others.

The opinion piece I was referring to was written by Naomi Oreskes, a familiar name around here. She was smearing people as “climate change deniers”. So Scientific American is giving a platform to one of the biggest promoters of the Human-caused Climate Change scam, in the world.

We are just being propagandized from all directions when it comes to climate change. All our institutions are corrupted by it.

Rick W Kargaard
Reply to  Tom Abbott
September 20, 2021 8:44 am

I read those articles back then but wasn’t panicked. Too many more immediate concerns. I don’t remember it ever coming up in normal conversation. I think most people of the time had either not heard of it or simply ignored it. The sciency magazine’s of the time published mostly fantasy futuristic imaginings anyway. Come to think of it, not much has changed except the ability to make their imaginings see more plausible.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Rick W Kargaard
September 20, 2021 10:28 am

When the subject of Human-caused Global Cooling first came up in the popular science publications, I didn’t have any reason to doubt the claims. I was eager to learn the details of how the Earth’s weather works and how humans could cause modifications to it.

But I got discouraged after a while, because the human-caused global cooling claims were just like today’s human-caused global warming claims in that they were all unsubstantiated speculation. No definitive facts were *ever* produced.

So it got to the point where I would get angry every time the mailman delivered a Scientific American magazine to my mailbox, because there would always be another unsubstantiated global cooling/global warming claim on the cover.

So I cancelled my subscription to prevent myself from getting angry every month.

I did the same thing, at the same time, with Science News and National Geographic and for the very same reason, they were pushing unsubstantiated speculation about global cooling and global warming, and were not in line with the way I think science should be done. Unsubstantiated speculation is not science fact. These publishers do not seem to be able to understand that. And I’m not going to pay them to spread disinformation.

Eugene McDermott
September 19, 2021 6:38 pm

First post. Don’t pile on me all at once.

Theme song for the warmistas, assuming they have the good taste to appreciate Credence, which I doubt.

Hope you got your things together
Hope you are quite prepared to die
Looks like we’re in for nasty weather
One eye is taken for an eye

Reply to  Eugene McDermott
September 19, 2021 8:12 pm

Yep I already crunch out a bluesy version of that one “for the climate fearful among you”. Hands covering laughter by those who know what’s coming, followed by grimaces, occasional hissy-fit from those who qualify. The air-flow the hissies are breathing is usually coming off the south-west Pacific. Sunrise and photosynthesis takes 410+ back to 380, then the vegetation has had enough by midday. Back up to 410 occasionally higher after about 6pm.The hissing outputs ~40,000 ppm, so I sometimes get to invite them to hiss at my pSense portable CO2 Meter that is set to alarm at 3000 ppm.
Nowhere is Safe from the Bloomberg Apocalypse – there fixed the title

Sara
Reply to  Eugene McDermott
September 20, 2021 4:07 am

Gee, I pulled that one out the other day and posted it on another site. Said “You’ve been warned”. After a while, my readers stopped throwing things like cotton balls at me.

I’m trying to view the current idiocy as a bad — really, really bad – case of acne with a very large eruption coming to a head. It will self-demolish on its own, so have some wipes handy.

Yooper
Reply to  Eugene McDermott
September 20, 2021 5:35 am

BRAVO!!!!!

Rasa
September 19, 2021 6:44 pm

Michael Mann @michaelemann is a counter productive Talking Head for the Global Warmists. His silly work hastens the realisation that the whole “global warming” narrative is a complex mixture of scam, incompetence, dishonesty and Ponzi “science”
Give Michael as much airtime as possible and let’s put this whole sorry saga behind us. Buy waterfront realestate in a current balmy location👌😁

Mr.
September 19, 2021 6:45 pm

I often think that M. Mann was trained by the IBM sales team back in the 60s / 70s.

Their most effective ploy in closing big mainframe computer deals with government & corporate IT managers was –
“well if you want to take the risk of moving away from what all your peers are doing, that’s very interesting. All eyes will no doubt be on how it turns out for you”.

Fear of loss is one of the most powerful buying motives.
And one of the most manipulated.

TonyL
Reply to  Mr.
September 19, 2021 7:03 pm

The good old days.
FUD marketing.
Fear
Uncertainty
Doubt

IBM was the past master of it for sure.
And the classic – “Nobody ever lost their job buying IBM”.

When that last one went down, it really did a spectacular Crash And Burn.
The shocked looks when people got fired for buying overpriced junk with those three little letters.

Climate Science absolutely has the FUD marketing down.

Mr.
Reply to  TonyL
September 19, 2021 7:32 pm

Yep, and let’s hope history repeats itself.
Again.
Once more.

Sara
Reply to  Mr.
September 20, 2021 4:08 am

It will. We must be patient.

bonbon
Reply to  TonyL
September 20, 2021 4:24 am

And to think IBM chief Watson said the world needs only 5 mainframes!
We need only 5 climate modellers, yet we have thousands! Shades of the PC revolution IBM did not see coming….
And the tablet revolution Microsoft did not see coming… Billions of them on Twitter, flaming each other, ogling Greta that the modellers did not see.
Who needs modellers in this froth?

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  TonyL
September 20, 2021 12:07 pm

Praise all Gods most Fulsomely for the advent of IBM compatibles!

Hoyt Clagwell
September 19, 2021 6:47 pm

So they’re flipping the switch back to “a few days in a small part of the world equals global warming” again? It was quite a mild summer here in Southern California this year. Does that count for anything?

n.n
Reply to  Hoyt Clagwell
September 19, 2021 7:05 pm

Modern science is practiced with inferential (created…. creative) logic.

bonbon
Reply to  Hoyt Clagwell
September 20, 2021 4:27 am

They will recall Summer, if they can do it with warming and cooling!

starzmom
Reply to  Hoyt Clagwell
September 20, 2021 7:47 am

In the Kansas City area, we haven’t hit 100 degrees in over three years. Now that it is is September, the record will move to 4 years. All of our summertime highs are over 100, the dearth of 100 degree days says something.

September 19, 2021 6:47 pm

No matter where you move to, you will never be safe from hearing more Climate rubbish from Michael Mann, the Warmistas and the Greenies.

Iain Russell
September 19, 2021 6:51 pm

Oh dear, what’s a woke gel to do?

Shoki Kaneda
September 19, 2021 6:54 pm

Where does the heat go? Is it hiding in the deep ocean, again?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Shoki Kaneda
September 19, 2021 9:13 pm

The heat went the same place it went during the cooling period from 1940 to 1980.

n.n
September 19, 2021 6:55 pm

Another handmade tale.

Shoki Kaneda
Reply to  n.n
September 20, 2021 7:00 am

And Mann-made.

Danley Wolfe
September 19, 2021 7:07 pm

Clear and present danger, Marxism is alive and well and ignoring and distorting the scientific evidence…” The basic steps of the scientific method are: 1) make an observation that describes a problem, 2) create a hypothesis, 3) test the hypothesis, and 4) draw conclusions and refine the hypothesis. Critical thinking is a key component of the scientific method. Without it, you cannot use logic to come to conclusions. The rhetoric and IPCC case models are unrealistic and far exceed the limits of sound scientific inquiry. I wish Popper and Feynman were alive today. “In April 1966, Richard Feynman delivered an address to the National Science Teachers Association, in which he suggested how students could be made to think like scientists, be open-minded, curious, and especially, to doubt. In the course of the lecture, he gave a definition of science, which he said came about by several stages. The evolution of intelligent life on planet Earth—creatures such as cats that play and learn from experience. The evolution of humans, who came to use language to pass knowledge from one individual to the next, so that the knowledge was not lost when an individual died. Unfortunately, incorrect knowledge could be passed down as well as correct knowledge, so another step was needed. Galileo and others started doubting the truth of what was passed down and to investigate ab initio, from experience, what the true situation was—this was science. In 1974, Feynman delivered the Caltech commencement address on the topic of cargo cult science, which has the semblance of science, but is only pseudoscience due to a lack of “a kind of scientific integrity, a principle of scientific thought that corresponds to a kind of utter honesty” on the part of the scientist. …The first principle is that you must not fool yourself—and you are the easiest person to fool. So you have to be very careful about that. After you’ve not fooled yourself, it’s easy not to fool other scientists. You just have to be honest in a conventional way after that.”
As I see it the climate movement is severely flawed and populated by wannabees who think they want to do the right thing to “save the planet” and hordes of people who are on the payroll, talking about the massive numbers who are “on the payroll” with university and “research” positions and other organizations that pay for their titles and salaries.

bonbon
Reply to  Danley Wolfe
September 20, 2021 4:36 am

NASA has enough sense back then to realize the group-think prevailing obviated any Challenger investigation. They called in an outsider, Feynman, who very quickly found the cause.
Trump called in Dr. Happer, planned a Red-Blue team on climate, but was scuppered from all sides.
If an outsider is to be called in as the economy heads to a green train-wreck who would fit the bill?

CD in Wisconsin
September 19, 2021 7:16 pm

About the author:

“Francis Wilkinson writes about U.S. politics and domestic policy for Bloomberg Opinion. He was previously executive editor of the Week, a writer for Rolling Stone, a communications consultant and a political media strategist.”

That is all I need to know. He is a political writer/commentator and strategist and used to write for the Rolling Stone. CAGW has become a political narrative as much as (or more than) anything else.

The CAGW theory doesn’t need to be scientifically sound. As long as most of those who control the dissemination of information are on board the alarmist bandwagon, it is just a matter of getting people to believe. A collective Orwellian Big Brother is alive and well here in the real world.

observa
September 19, 2021 7:18 pm

Nowhere is safe from the Bloombergs making money from their apocalyptic last chances.

John F Hultquist
September 19, 2021 7:59 pm

 I don’t know about Portland, Maine, but I can think of several reasons to stay out of Portland, Oregon.
Your list might vary from mine.
Climate isn’t involved, although it does rain a bit much.
[Annual average = 43 inches.]

Editor
September 19, 2021 8:18 pm

Net migration within the USA is from north to south, ie. towards the warmer places.
https://www.northamerican.com/migration-map

Chris Hanley
September 19, 2021 8:28 pm

Xi Jinping and the Chinese Communist Party don’t care what happens to the US or EU climate-wise, why should they?
Likewise the Russians Indians Indonesians Latin Americans Africans et al.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Chris Hanley
September 19, 2021 9:21 pm

Nothing much is going to happen climate-wise. We may cool off a few degrees. It’s happened before and humans are still around.

If climate cycles are any guide, the last two cool points in the temperature record were in the 1910’s and the late 1970’s, and both periods were equally cool, so if we are headed for another cool period, it would be my guess that we will cool down to around where we were in the 1910’s and the late 1970’s.

And then after a few decades of cooling, we will start warming again like in the 1980’s, if this is a natural climate cycle.

Chris Hanley
September 19, 2021 9:17 pm

It so happens Climate4you -> Oceans has a section on the Gulf Stream with a number of charts and diagrams, a summary being that NOCD data for the North Atlantic (60-0W, 30-65N) since January 1955 show no sign of cooling so far.

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September 19, 2021 9:38 pm

Move somewhere cold???

Of course, by definition, these Alarmist bedwetters are not from the Brainiac crew.

If you wanted to survive a global warming apocalypse, you shouldn’t move to somewhere cold since claimed polar amplification will make it hot there and no infrastructure or power or building systems are inplace to deal with hot weather living and all the changes to the environment that would bring.
Instead, logic says: Move to somewhere where it is already hot climate but seasonal and the locals and all the infrastructure and power systems are built to survive heat spells. Southern Arizona fits that bill for the climate bedwetters. They can even virtue signal like a Pro with some good output solar arrays that actually work.

I have 30,000 gallon sparkling blue pool that is pure bliss on 110º F Tucson afternoon and evening in the summer. A quick dip and swim, and then evaporative skin cooling until the next dip.

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dodgy geezer
September 19, 2021 10:36 pm

Climate variation in the NH is mainly caused by the AMO. It was heating durinduring the 1990s, and now it’s swinging over to the cold phase.

Mann realises this and is positioning himself accordingly…

John MacDonald
September 19, 2021 10:46 pm

I think Cliff Maas will not be smiling at this article.

Martin
September 19, 2021 11:07 pm

Somebody should rewrite “Goldilocks and The Three Bears” to “Nosuchlocks and the Last Three Polar Bears”.

Redge
September 19, 2021 11:17 pm

It’s only human to wonder where the higher, safer ground might be. Where to run?

Drama green, I mean queen

Rod Evans
September 20, 2021 12:23 am

Serious question.
Does anyone outside the believers in the climate alarm cult, actually take any notice of what Michael E Mann has to say about anything?
It would be difficult to find any other individual that has been more wrong about anything and confirmed wrong than Michael E Mann. With that almost unique achievement in his CV, how is even possible he is still employed, let alone given air time to broadcast his climate nonsense?

George Daddis
Reply to  Rod Evans
September 20, 2021 8:13 am

Ehrlich would give Mann a run for his money in that race.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Rod Evans
September 20, 2021 9:45 am

I noted, though, he was a hit with the media down-under with the fires and all. Is he a fire-Gore?

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Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  Rod Evans
September 20, 2021 12:12 pm

Mann is at Penn State, that should tell you all you need to know about how he is still employed and considered an asset to their organization…

Captain climate
September 20, 2021 12:38 am

Contact the author: fwilkinson1@bloomberg.net and
the editor responsible
Mnewman43@bloomberg.net
To tell them what garbage alarmism this is.

2hotel9
September 20, 2021 3:03 am

These idiots are all severely mentally ill and need to be forcibly institutionalized for our protection.

Sara
September 20, 2021 3:52 am

I’m amazed. The laws of physics have somehow been changed since I was in grade school.

It was always “cold is the absence of heat, so we build fires/run furnaces to keep warm and cook”.

Now, with this unprecedented change in the laws of physics via Mann, heat causes cold.

Amazing! How does he do that??? If we have a blizzard or two this winter, I’d like to send him a cubic foot of snow from my personal collection, just so he doesn’t get too hot.

bonbon
Reply to  Sara
September 20, 2021 4:47 am

You actually have a snow collection?
Note Robert Burns, from Tam O’Shanter :
“But pleasures are like poppies spread,
You seize the flower, it’s bloom is shed;
Or, like the snow-fall in the river,
A moment white, then melts forever.”

He correctly does not say the river freezes. Still, last year skaters took out shoes on the frozen river after 30 years! Something must have caused that!

Chaswarnertoo
Reply to  bonbon
September 20, 2021 4:58 am

Same thing that did 30 years ago. Duh!

Sara
Reply to  bonbon
September 20, 2021 7:31 am

Yes, there will be, come winter, snowballs in my freezer which I will produce as souvenirs for next summer. I have some photos of ice that froze in a thin layer and held up until April, then vanished into my lawn. I also froze some soap bubbles, just for fun.

I wonder what would happen if 9 feet of snow blocked the doors at some of the places where these people gather. With the moisture content of the air as it is (rathr high where I am), and a rather mild summer, the grasses are still quite green. And Autumn starts tomorrow, which means we may get more rain than we’ve had all summer.

fretslider
Reply to  Sara
September 20, 2021 5:31 am

“Amazing! How does he do that”

He employs the same approach as the post-modern left in general. Doublethink.

Once mastered doublethink allows you to hold two completely contradictory beliefs in your mind simultaneously, and accept both of them.

So we know that heat does not cool something, you have to heat the water to take a bath 

But now you have to also believe that, for example, a hot radiator will cool you down

Simple when you know how.

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Bruce Cobb
September 20, 2021 4:57 am

Climate change hysteria is surely having a breakout performance this year. The blathering idiots are constantly braying about the weather, about how “bad” it’s become, and how it’s all our fault for wanting to live comfortable lives. How dare we want to have reliable and affordable energy, which is “destroying the planet”. Excuse me, while I look for my sackcloth and ashes.

Sara
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
September 20, 2021 7:32 am

Ummm, could you tell me what planet those people are living on , Bruce?

Where I live, the summer was rather nice, if just a little dry after the spring rains ended. I really don’t think those people are on the same planet as you and I.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
September 20, 2021 9:49 am

COP26

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
September 20, 2021 10:41 am

We are being subjected to a deliberate blizzard of Human-caused Climate Change propaganda. An organized, purposeful blizzard.

Big Brother has the Megaphone.

fretslider
September 20, 2021 5:07 am

Gather all ye faithful – and you, griff – and hear the tidings

“Scientists see

warming causes cooling”

All you have to do is believe this nonsense.

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Anthony Banton
Reply to  fretslider
September 20, 2021 5:48 am

warming causes cooling”
All you have to do is believe this nonsense.”

Yes you are talking nonsense.
Regional cold outbreaks in winter by the process of PJS disruption (perhaps) being enhanced by areas of open Arctic water and earlier build of the Siberian high.
does NOT constitute “Cooling”.
The GMST is not affected as cold areas become less cold in return.
It’s zero sum (or as near as we can tell.
Just energy being moved around the climate system and not a change in Solar energy in vs LWIR out.

But don’t let the new myth be punctured by the facts.

fretslider
Reply to  Anthony Banton
September 20, 2021 5:52 am

You seem to have done a great job of convincing yourself

I applaud that kind of devotion.

Tough on Siberians, eh?

Anthony Banton
Reply to  fretslider
September 20, 2021 5:58 am

I’m not “convinced” either way.
It’s just a hypothesis, that is meteorologically plausible.
The “Siberian” winter climate is severe whatever happens to Arctic Air – in fact it is usually colder than the Arctic.

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Dave Fair
Reply to  Anthony Banton
September 20, 2021 9:53 am

The Arctic has a marine environment, albeit cold. Siberia has a continental climate, much warmer and colder. Also, try Fairbanks, AK.

Rusty
September 20, 2021 5:17 am

The only climate crisis is the one being manufactured which is leading to spiralling energy costs. The best place to survive is in the middle of nowhere with enough food, water, fuel (and ammo) for the duration.

Never thought I’d be thinking about becoming a ‘preper’, but I can see where eco-policy is leading. In the UK we are starting to see cause and effect.

SteveB
September 20, 2021 6:25 am

Would someone explain how the models predict freakish temperatures, horrible storms, drought etc if world temps rise 2C?

Charlotte NC is about 1+ degree Lat north of Columbia SC, and 1 degree of latitude has the effect of about 1C temp difference. It seems to me that global warming will make Charlotte NC weather to be like Columbia SC weather.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  SteveB
September 20, 2021 6:49 am

See, Manmade CO2 has magical powers. It can even cause CO2 heat to become Ninja Heat, which can hide deep in the oceans, where we can’t see it, but we “know” it’s there, waiting for the right moment to pounce.

Dave Fair
Reply to  SteveB
September 20, 2021 9:55 am

Even the UN IPCC CliSciFi models don’t predict freakish weather; it is a fiction pushed by the likes of Mann and amplified by NGOs, crony capitalists and the MSM.

SAMURAI
September 20, 2021 8:34 am

“scientific studies and news articles has been visible to the naked eye or felt on tingling flesh — here too wet, there too dry, everywhere too hot. It’s only human to wonder where the higher, safer ground might be. Where to run?”

Leftists are so funny….

What actual science shows is that for the last 100’s years, there have been no increasing global trends in frequency nor severity of: hurricanes, typhoons, cyclones, tornadoes, thunderstorms, droughts, floods and hail…

Leftists in the Northern Hemisphere will likely have a rude awakening when they experience a brutal winter this year caused by a rare back-to-back La Niña cycle and also cooling North Atlantic SSTs temps, soon to be followed by 30 years of global cooling when the PDO/AMO soon reenter their respective 30-year cool cycles…

“Warming apocalypse”… Give me a break…

Leftists are so funny…

Tom Abbott
Reply to  SAMURAI
September 20, 2021 10:51 am

“Leftists are so funny…”

They are also ridiculous.

The author of the article sounds like a True Believer. She is assuming things not in evidence about climate change, like every True Believer alarmist does.

One doesn’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure out there is no “there, there”, when it comes to Human-caused Climate Change. The only thing underlying human-caused climate change is a bunch of speculation.

But, True Believers are probably not the type to do their homework. They let others do it for them, and are led astray.

I wonder if this author is stressed out about the situation she thinks the world is in? If so, it’s a self-inflicted wound. The truth about the “truth” of climate change is out there.

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Slowroll
September 20, 2021 8:34 am

The only climate catastrophe in the making is the overwhelming codswallop claiming a climate catastrophe

griff
September 20, 2021 8:43 am

Well there you go: it is climate change, not ‘everywhere just gets 2 degrees warmer quite evenly across the globe, throughout the year’.

You have had 6 heatwaves across the USA, one setting new high temp records and killing people. The fires are getting worse, you’ve again had flooding – record rainfall in NY.

The globe has this year seen a long list of climate related extreme weather.

Still you continue unprepared in seeming blissful ignorance…

CD in Wisconsin
Reply to  griff
September 20, 2021 9:30 am

Griffy-poo,

Show the evidence that all of this (any of it) are outside the range of the Earth’s paleo-climatic historical trends. Has NY never been flooded before in its history going back to the 17-19th centuries? Was the NY flooding unusual from a historical and global perspective?

Has North America never been as warm as now in the Medieval or Roman Warm Periods? Do we have non-proxy temp records in NA going back that far? Did you read the recent posting here at WUWT about Antarctica cooling since 1980?

Blissful ignorance Griff? Blissful ignorance is a failure or refusal to place today’s meteorological events in historical perspective. Blissful ignorance is a failure or refusal to acknowledge the global flat trend line for hurricanes from past decades through to today. Etc., etc.

Religions don’t tolerate anything that would threaten the faith Griffy-poo. Don’t drink any spiked Kool-Aid.

Dave Fair
Reply to  griff
September 20, 2021 10:04 am

Climate is the average of given weather metrics, commonly assumed to be an average of any metric at a particular location over 30 years. How does an individual weather event (hot, cold, rainy & etc.) be caused by a statistical construct?

Hottest, coldest, wettest, driest & etc. occurs at many places around the globe daily. Pick a few cold records and you can prove a global cooling crisis using CliSciFi methods of communication.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  griff
September 20, 2021 11:03 am

I think the rain is moving into the U.S. northwest where the fires are, Griff.

This summer’s heatwaves are just what should be expected every summer in the U.S. The unusually hot heatwave in the northwest was a freak of nature powered by downslope winds.

Seasonal change is in the air.

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Graemethecat
Reply to  griff
September 21, 2021 3:04 am

despite having it explained patiently many times, Griff the village idiot still has not understood how the Normal Distribution works.

Climate events are normally distributed, meaning that any climate record will be broken eventually, if one waits long enough. This is true even if the climate does not change.

Steve Oregon
September 20, 2021 8:50 am

It’s only human to wonder where the higher, safer ground might be. Where to run?

Translation: You can’t escape the misery our policies will bring.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Steve Oregon
September 20, 2021 11:15 am

This reminds me of the time a friend and I were riding in a car listening to the radio, and there was a weather front moving into the area but it was still probably an hour away from arriving at our location, when all of a sudden, the radio DJ interrupted the song that was playing and started yelling, “There’s a tornado touching down right now! If you are in your cars, get out of your cars and into the ditch! Get out of your cars and into the ditch!”

And me and my friend looked at each other puzzled, and we looked out the window and everything looked normal, no tornadoes or severe weather at all, so we didn’t pull over and get into the ditch, we kept on driving, and in about a minute or so, the DJ came back on the radio and told us it was a false alarm.

He said the wind gauge at the radio station had broken and was reading that the wind was blowing at 110mph, so he thought a tornado had snuck up on them. This took place before we had the really good radar coverage we have of tornadoes today, so we were flying blind a little bit back then.

We had a pretty good laugh at that one. We weren’t afraid since we were experienced with tornado weather (remember, I knew at the time that the front was an hour away:), so although the sky was a little bit yellow, which is an indication a tornado could be coming, but we were in what would be called the “calm before the storm” and we knew it.

That DJ was in a panic over something that didn’t exist! Looking for a place to run, just like the author of this article.

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Bruce Cobb
September 20, 2021 11:17 am

Nowhere to run to, baby
Nowhere to hide
Got nowhere to run to, baby
Nowhere to hide

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
September 21, 2021 4:46 am

I like that song.

Jon R
September 20, 2021 9:13 pm
  • never discount the wisdom of Geezer Butler, Tony Iommi, and Ozzy Osbourne

Is this the end of the beginning?
Or the beginning of the end?
Losing control or are you winning?
Is your life real or just pretend?
Reanimation of the sequence
Rewinds the future to the past
To find the source of the solution
The system has to be recast

ATheoK
September 20, 2021 9:23 pm

In June, Portland [Oregon] reached a record 116 degrees in the midst of a freakish heat wave. The temperature, which followed record-breaking highs on each of the two previous days, could have been worse. In the village of Lytton, British Columbia, 400 miles north of Portland, the temperature hit 121 degrees. Even Seattle experienced triple-digit heat on three consecutive days.

…”

Never mind the simmering tectonics, proof of seriously large coastal tsunami and active volcanoes as neighbors.

“Portland, Maine, is another place that has received attention as a potential refuge from climate chaos. It makes sense. Portland is cool and coastal while being less vulnerable to the sea rise that is already complicating life in many East Coast cities. As one climate scientist told the New York Times in 2016: “Portland is high enough that certainly for the next few centuries it’s not going to have significant sea-level rise.”

On the other hand, Portland is not exactly balmy, with an average low temperature in January of 13 degrees. So any prospect of the city getting colder is cause for concern.”

More misuse of the term “average”.
Portland, Maine gets a lot colder than 13°, presumably in Fahrenheit, for long periods of time.

“The average annual maximum temperature is: 56.84° Fahrenheit (13.8° Celsius)

The average annual minimum temperature is: 39.02° Fahrenheit (3.9° Celsius)”

“January is the coldest month, with an average high-temperature of 31.1°F (-0.5°C) and an average low-temperature of 20.7°F (-6.3°C).”

“In Portland, the average high-temperature in February is essentially the same as in January – a cold 32.5°F (0.3°C).”

“In Portland, the average high-temperature in March marginally rises, from 32.5°F (0.3°C) in February, to a still wintry 38.3°F (3.5°C).”

Again, the averages are misleading.

Portland’s oceanfront goes far to keep the city warmer in the winter and chillier in summer.
There are good reasons pictures of Maine residents often show them in sweaters and jackets throughout the year.

Short growing seasons, cold clammy weather, picnics habitable between 11AM and 3PM.

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Eric Vieira
September 20, 2021 11:55 pm

The only global apocalypse out there is the World Economic Forum and their global leaders and shapers. Stop them !

Cosmic
September 21, 2021 9:38 am

These ‘people’ are effing sick. Idiots all. I take none of them seriously.

ResourceGuy
September 22, 2021 10:52 am

Nowhere is safe from the paid news and agendas revenue model.

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