Signs of life - Fraser Island Dec 2020, a few weeks after fires which were allowed to burn due to government decision paralysis were finally extinguished.

British BBC Scolds Australia for Failing to Embrace Net Zero

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

BBC’s Australian correspondent is aghast that Australia continues to resist pressure to join President Biden’s climate change economic suicide pact.

Climate change: Why action still ignites debate in Australia

By Shaimaa Khalil
Australia correspondent

In my first week as the BBC’s new Australia correspondent in 2019, a state of emergency was declared in New South Wales. Bushfires blazed and came very close to Sydney.

As the country woke to pictures of red skies, destroyed homes and burned koalas in smouldering bushland, the climate change debate came to the fore.

But this wasn’t a scientific debate. It was political and it was partisan.

Prime Minister Scott Morrison did not answer questions about the issue, while then Deputy Prime Minister Michael McCormack dismissed climate concerns as those of “raving inner-city lefties”. 

That was my other big memory of my first week in Australia. The leadership – after years of drought and as blazes raged across the east coast – openly throwing doubt on the effects of climate change.

The power of industry

Mr Morrison recently told a conference of fossil fuel executives that oil and gas will “always” be a major contributor to the country’s prosperity.

Mr Morrison has been adamant that “technology not taxes” is the way forward – knowing the backlash he would face if he were to impose carbon pricing.

But scientists say technology on its own is not enough and that what is needed is a combination of all measures; reduction targets, new technology for clean energy and a carbon tax.

Read more: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-57606398

The only people in Australia who think bushfires are unusual, or that they inflict lasting damage on the bush, are new immigrants, or ignorant inner city urban greens, who would know better if they spent any time in that natural wilderness they claim to love.

Even when government idiocy allows fires to burn for weeks without an effective response, as happened recently on world heritage listed Fraser Island, natural regeneration of affected bushland is rapid. The photo above, taken a few weeks after the fires, already shows signs of regeneration clearly visible from the air. In less than a decade, all the burned areas in the photo above will be regenerated so completely, that only a careful ground based inspection would reveal any indications there was ever a fire.

Obviously it is a tragedy if lives and homes are lost when the bush burns. But deaths from bushfires are entirely preventable, if only Aussie state and local governments would get out of the way of people who want to protect their homes.

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griff
June 28, 2021 10:14 am

Areas of Australia not previously known for bushfires burned in 2019. This is not ‘the usual’

Reply to  griff
June 28, 2021 10:18 am

Bushfire burn where bush is.
Arsonists may be everywhere.

Dennis
Reply to  Krishna Gans
June 28, 2021 8:18 pm

Australia is the land of droughts and flooding rains, a very dry climate zone with eucalypts that need bushfires to regenerate and that developed as the climate zone became drier over 130,000 years ago causing the then rainforests to retreat and today rainforests cover about three per cent of the land.

Add to the bushfire causes UN Agenda 21 – Sustainability based State Lands in Australia converted to National Parks where sustainable logging is banned, no new dams permitted, even raising existing dam walls requires UN permission, no mining or exploration for minerals and energy, etc., and unfortunately poor land management to remove and limit fuel for bushfires on the ground. The result of poor land management and bushfire hazard removal has been very hot wild fires as compared to much cooler and easier to deal with bushfires that Australian Aborigine land management (traditional seasonal burning in patches) avoided for tens of thousands of years.

Climate changes are Earth Cycles, natural.

Hutches Hunches
Reply to  Dennis
June 30, 2021 8:43 pm
  1. Interestingly enough, “Climate Change” is caused by man. Foolish men who fail to understand how nature interacts with the climate and try to control it with faultily devised plans that go awry. This often results in fires, flood and other extreme events that the low IQ public is easily convinced are due to “Climate Change”. It’s a classic human failure to assume that we should get past all this, given relative peace, better education, nutrition, opportunity and other basics that should be making humanity smarter and less prone to being led astray. But the reality is that human advancement is limited by the forces of evolution, which operate very, very slowly…
alastair gray
Reply to  griff
June 28, 2021 10:20 am

But nevertheless the total area burned by bushfire in 2019 over the whole of Australia was less than usual Now that is the usual usual which usually happens regardless of what6 the alarmists usually think

Dennis
Reply to  alastair gray
June 28, 2021 8:20 pm

The State Government of Victoria has refused to release land management records for National Parks and State Forests in the years before the 2019/20 bushfire season …. note “season”, an every year potential monitored by State Emergency Services including Rural Fire Service personnel.

Ben Vorlich
Reply to  griff
June 28, 2021 10:36 am

Unlike you Griff, I’m not an expert on Australian bushfire history. But what little reading I’ve done on the subject has left me with a strong impression that from the pre-European period of history of Australia to the present time pretty much the whole country has had bush fires at various times in that history.

Have you got any references that say otherwise?

IAMPCBOB
Reply to  Ben Vorlich
June 28, 2021 11:07 am

Griff doesn’t need references OR facts! Just believe everything he says, and that makes him happy.

Dennis
Reply to  Ben Vorlich
June 28, 2021 8:27 pm

In have friends in Gippsland, Victoria who were raised in families that are in the cattle industry, pioneer families that settled there and discovered the Snowy Mountains High Country native grasslands managed by the Aborigine tribes for thousands of years before white settlement. The cattle families now members of the Cattlemen’s Association of Victoria had huts in the Snowy Mountains on land they used during the warm months to graze their herds. And when they left to return to their farms they followed Aborigine advice and set fire to the grass to prepare for next season growth and to destroy bushfire hazards.

Since the Victoria Government banned cattle from the Snowy Mountains fire hazard materials have increased markedly, including Blackberry Bushes, potential for destructive extremely hot wild fires. The 2019/20 Bushfire Season example, and noting that the areas are wildlife refuges, National Parks & Wildlife is the title of the UN based State Land conversions management.

griff
Reply to  Ben Vorlich
June 29, 2021 12:47 am

But this time areas of old growth forest and swamps burned… areas which historically did NOT burn.

Prior to the summer of 2019-20, bushfires burned 2% or less of the nation’s temperate broadleaved forests. But over the black summer, 21% burned. That’s a tenfold increase in a single season.

so, an extension of the area prone to bushfires.

Wildfires have spread dramatically—and some forests may not recover (nationalgeographic.com)

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  griff
June 29, 2021 1:10 am

Finally a citation, of sorts…. Sorry, Nationalgeographic.com carries no weight in the real world.

David Kamakaris
Reply to  griff
June 28, 2021 10:51 am

Griff, how far back does “the usual ” go?

MarkW
Reply to  David Kamakaris
June 28, 2021 11:57 am

It goes back to the start of the time where the government aggressively fought wild fires.

Mr.
Reply to  griff
June 28, 2021 11:01 am

Griff, I have watched the vegetation on the surface of a swamp go up in flames as a bushfire passed through.
It is a common effect during Aussie bushfires.

Jeffery P
Reply to  griff
June 28, 2021 11:44 am

Because an anomaly of just one year signals a change in climate?

Get a grip, griff

Last edited 3 months ago by Jeffery P
Greg
Reply to  griff
June 28, 2021 11:44 am

Areas of Australia not previously known for bushfires burned in 2019.

Well your baseless assertion of some vague claim is good enough for me. Where can I sign up?

Walter Sobchak
Reply to  griff
June 28, 2021 11:56 am

How would griff know?

Forget it. He knows nothing at all and just repeats the talking points from the Grauniad, which is an entire paper full of misinformation, disinformation, and leftist propaganda.

Steve
Reply to  Walter Sobchak
June 28, 2021 7:34 pm

+100 on the Grauniad. Even the sports section has been known to get the scores wrong

MarkW
Reply to  griff
June 28, 2021 11:56 am

As far as griff is concerned, if it was in the BBC (or The Guardian), it’s proven. You simply are not permitted to disagree.

rah
Reply to  griff
June 28, 2021 12:00 pm

It wasn’t “usual” for 15 to 17% of Australia’s land mass to suffer extensive damage due to wildfires in 1974-75 when the CO2 level was at about 330 ppm. Nor was it “usual” for NE Australia to be flooded by historic rains with 32″ recorded at Brisbane in 1974. Nor was it “usual” in 1988 when CO2 was at 350 ppm for a Typhoon to wipe out Port Darwin to the extent that most of it was evacuated for a year to rebuild.

Coeur de Lion
Reply to  rah
June 28, 2021 2:11 pm

There’s an Australian government website which details bushfire history, Reely reely bad in 1870 or thereabouts- many deaths

Dennis
Reply to  Coeur de Lion
June 28, 2021 8:30 pm

Wasn’t that the time when an out of control bush and grassland fire burnt for thousands of square miles of farmland and state lands and was out of control for months?

Huge loss of wildlife and farm animals, people and buildings.

Sparko
Reply to  griff
June 28, 2021 12:40 pm

I think the subject of firestick farming comes to mind. Banned for years by enlightened European academics. Let the brush build up, and you get a big fire.

Chris*
Reply to  Sparko
June 28, 2021 11:26 pm

Whilst aboriginal people set fire to the bush to hunt animals, make and clear tracks and destroy enemy tribes, it didn’t always work out so well . Early settlers recorded seeing aboriginal people severely scarred and burned from fires. Since colonisation we have changed the eco systems in so many ways and can’t go back to what there was. Many people don’t realise that we have in the past had rabbit plagues similar to the recent mouse plague. Literally millions of rabbits crawling over each other eating every thing for hundreds of miles. Rabbits and foxes were introduced in 1830, they thrived in the more benign climate and dingos certainly couldn’t keep up with them. To make matters worse, it was often the Rabbito who introduced rabbits into new areas. Rabbit was the staple protein for most settlers and town dwellers, and the Rabbito went door to door selling freshly killed rabbits. All girls learnt how to skin and clean rabbits before cooking. Added to this decimation of the Australian bush was the introduction of hooved animals and noxious weeds. As I said we can’t go back, the Australian cycle is consistent; drought- fire -flood -a few good years and the cycle begins again. Our flora and fauna have adapted to this cycle and so should we.

Rich Davis
Reply to  griff
June 28, 2021 1:08 pm

Is there a synonym for bushfire? I think it’s Australia?

BobM
Reply to  griff
June 28, 2021 1:14 pm

But the real question is… would Griff prefer living in 1700 to 1775 when CO2 was so benign, or this terrible time of over-carbon 1950-2025?

Griff?

griff
Reply to  BobM
June 29, 2021 12:49 am

An irrelevant question: I live now.

And there are more people and a different civilisation now than in 1775: one which is particularly vulnerable to rapid climate change (e.g impacts on crops and climate change)

Bill Toland
Reply to  griff
June 29, 2021 3:12 am

Griff, thank you for admitting that global warming has been hugely beneficial to agriculture. Given the projected increase in world population this century, it is essential that carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere continue to increase. We will need the increased crop yields to feed the increased population.

TonyG
Reply to  griff
June 29, 2021 11:15 am

“I live now”
But you appear to prefer the climate of 1775 to the climate of today.

What is the “right” temperature? What is the “right” CO2 concentration?

MarkW
Reply to  Eric Worrall
June 28, 2021 2:24 pm

griff’s moto is; If at first you don’t succeed, make up some more sh*t.

griff
Reply to  Eric Worrall
June 29, 2021 12:50 am

The Gondwana Rainforests are usually considered too damp to burn but they also went up in flames. About 54 per cent of the Gondwana Rainforests in NSW and Queensland burned.

These forests have developed over millions of years in a fire-free state and are not
well adapted to recovery from fire.

Bill Toland
Reply to  griff
June 29, 2021 1:22 am

.

Last edited 3 months ago by Bill Toland
Bill Toland
Reply to  griff
June 29, 2021 1:29 am

The bushfires which have happened in the Gondwana forests have been caused by the encroachment of the flammable eucalyptus trees into the logged areas adjoining the forests.

Bill Toland
Reply to  Bill Toland
June 29, 2021 2:02 am

I should have provided the link to my previous comment. Eucalyptus trees have recently invaded the logged areas inside the Gondwana forests and these burn easily.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-18/gondwana-era-nightcap-oak-devastated-by-bushfire/11877770

Last edited 3 months ago by Bill Toland
Geoff Sherrington
Reply to  griff
June 28, 2021 2:39 pm

Griff,
Trees that had not been blown down before were flattened by strong winds all over Australia this year.
And in every previous year.
Geoff S

MiloCrabtree
Reply to  griff
June 28, 2021 2:55 pm

Can you just go and infect some other website? You’re pathetic.

griff
Reply to  MiloCrabtree
June 29, 2021 12:52 am

Argue on the basis of science perhaps, rather than name calling?

This site is free to censor all opposing views if it wishes: is that what you want? when so many here are posting about climate skeptics being shut out of debate, it is OK to try and shift those of a different view from this site?

Bill Toland
Reply to  griff
June 29, 2021 1:41 am

I actually agree with Griff here. We need someone like Griff to post the alarmist view of the world. He gives sceptics the chance to refute his views. Newcomers to the site probably learn more from the replies to Griff than Griff’s posts themselves.

Last edited 3 months ago by Bill Toland
Tom Abbott
Reply to  Bill Toland
June 29, 2021 4:24 am

I agree with Bill.

Griff is actually trying to make an argument in this thread, instead of just making an assertion and then going into hiding like he usually does. He’s not winning the argument, but he is arguing. That’s a change.

Yes, we need alarmists to come here and make outrageous claims, and then we can scoff at them and set them, and lurkers seeking real knowledge, straight.

Bill Toland
Reply to  griff
June 29, 2021 2:07 am

Griff, I believe that this is the first post of yours that I have voted up.

TonyG
Reply to  griff
June 29, 2021 11:17 am

“This site is free to censor all opposing views if it wishes”

But it doesn’t.

Herbert
Reply to  griff
June 28, 2021 3:02 pm

griff,
Your ignorance is staggering.
There is nothing unusual or “unprecedented” about the 2019/2020 bushfires.
For your punishment, you are required to read the Stretton Royal Commission Report into the 1939 Black Friday bushfires in Victoria to see how“precedented”the 2019/2020 bushfires were both in terms of people killed and acreage burned.

Duker
Reply to  Herbert
June 28, 2021 4:04 pm

The Black Saturday in Victoria 2008 was even worse, 173 died in those few days and made it the most devastating in their history. The thing was it was predicted as being off the scale in terms of high risk but too many stayed in their rural hamlets and houses along rural roads because they though ‘not us’, and tend to wait for the fire and massive black clouds to be close by before leaving…..too late

Craig from Oz
Reply to  Duker
June 28, 2021 5:24 pm

On the plus side, Christine Nixon got to eat her pizza.

griff
Reply to  Herbert
June 29, 2021 12:52 am

More than 20% of Australia’s forests burned during the summer’s bushfire catastrophe, a proportion scientists believe is unprecedented globally, according to new research.

Research published in a special edition of Nature Climate Change focused on the bushfire crisis finds that 21% of the total area covered by Australian forests – excluding Tasmania – has burnt so far in the 2019-20 bushfire season.

Duker
Reply to  griff
June 28, 2021 3:57 pm

The type of trees that burned, eucalyptus, are adapted to burning on a regular basis. It may not be 20 years, it may be 50 years before a particular valley burns again. But it will happen

Iain Russell
Reply to  griff
June 28, 2021 3:59 pm

And many of those responsible, aka Clomate Changers, have been put on trial.

Ryan
Reply to  griff
June 28, 2021 4:57 pm

y’all need to stop feeding this troll.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  griff
June 28, 2021 9:40 pm

Poor little griff, our resident Black Knight, keeps on coming back for more…

Bill Toland
Reply to  griff
June 29, 2021 12:07 am

Griff, here is an image of the 24% decline in wildfires between 1998 and 2015 according to NASA. Note the decline in Australia.

globalburnedareamap.png
Last edited 3 months ago by Bill Toland
Tom Abbott
Reply to  Bill Toland
June 29, 2021 4:29 am

Ole Griff, trying to make something out of nothing.

Mr.
June 28, 2021 10:26 am

natural regeneration of affected bushland is rapid

Indeed.

My weekly business round-trip through the areas devastated by the Feb 2009 “Black Saturday” fires in Victoria showed regrowth well underway within a year of the scorched-earth landscapes in those places.

173 people tragically lost their lives, 414 were injured, more than a million wild and domesticated animals were lost and 450,000 hectares of land were burned.

Then as the extent and rapidity of the regeneration of the bush started to become more broadly evident ~ 2 years later, the media coverage was full of ‘experts’ back-tracking their earlier opinions that it would take a generation for the bush to regrow, but it would never recover to its initial state.

By 2016, just 7 years after Black Saturday, you would have to go searching through the dense green 30 foot high bush to find the evidence of the recent conflagration that occurred there.

rbabcock
Reply to  Mr.
June 28, 2021 10:33 am

Only to re-burn sometime in the future. When you live in areas like that or the western US which can have some wet and mostly relatively dry periods, a single ignition source whatever it may be can set it off. Just hopefully steps will be taken to lessen the impact on humans and wildlife, but probably not.

IAMPCBOB
Reply to  rbabcock
June 28, 2021 11:09 am

No, it never does. Just look at California, where these fires occur year after year, with little or nothing being done to prevent it. As someone else noted, there are arsonist’s everywhere!

Geoff Sherrington
Reply to  IAMPCBOB
June 28, 2021 2:45 pm

Iampcbob,
And apostrophes. Geoff S

MarkW
Reply to  Mr.
June 28, 2021 11:59 am

With more CO2 in the air, regrowth will happen even more quickly.

rah
Reply to  MarkW
June 28, 2021 12:35 pm

This truck driver has been doing more than his fair share of burning fossil fuels to increase the level of that life saving gas. Time for some of the slackers to step up but despite excellent pay it seems the majority of kids don’t want to work. I mean I can’t seem to find any other jobs that are paying at least 1,500 week and that requires no HS diploma to do. And with the economy lacking nearly 40% of the class A drivers it needs, the job security is excellent.

Tonight Ron and I will team. Anderson, IN to Vandalia, OH, to Dexter, MO to Paragould, AR, back to Dexter, and then back to Vandalia. We have been told we may do only one iteration or that we could be stuck doing that run for the rest of the week.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  rah
June 29, 2021 4:38 am

I think our education system has not served our young people very well for a long time. Instead of instilling a work ethic in them, they are indoctrinated into leftwing, anti-capitalist ideology. They are more than happy to sit at home and collect a government paycheck for doing so. And the Democrats in Congress are more than happy to pass out taxpayer money to them in order to try to buy their votes.

The extended unemployment benefits the Democrats put in place will stop in September, so maybe the trucking industry will get some new applicants around that time.

A shortage of truckers has to be driving the prices of the goods they transport, up.

The Democrat ploy to pay extended unemployment benefits is doing great harm to the U.S. economy.

Just remember: The Left ruins everything it touches.

Dave Andrews
Reply to  Tom Abbott
June 29, 2021 7:51 am

Shortage of HGV drivers in the UK also because of a loss of 100,000 lorry drivers caused by Covid and Brexit.

Tesco (UK’s major supermarket) raised the issue with UK Minister for Transport warning the shortage and vacancies in warehouses and food processing were creating 48 tonnes of fresh food waste each week for them.

Guardian ‘Shortage of HGV drivers leaves UK weeks away from gaps on shelves’, 26th June 2021.

griff
Reply to  Mr.
June 29, 2021 12:53 am

I read of areas with 4 fires in 25 years, which is beyond capacity for recovery…

Mr.
Reply to  griff
June 29, 2021 7:48 am

Grass fires, Griff.
Some areas have one EVERY YEAR.

Brian Andrews
Reply to  Mr.
June 29, 2021 4:46 pm

Yep, I have a bush fire on my block of land every year. Fortunately, I live in an area of Australia where the council still allows me to use fire to control the fuel load and clear my fire breaks.

lyn roberts
Reply to  Brian Andrews
July 1, 2021 4:28 pm

We have a neighbour, that allows their bush block to grow rampant rubbish, 8 feet high in grasses, and eucalypus and weeds. It is astonishing how fast it has grown in the last 5 years since the local fire brigade put a burn off through. What worries me is the chance the fire would jump the boundary fence into our orchard and gardens which we keep manicured. We have come to the conclusion that we cannot replace the boundary fence with timber posts, as the previous owners had before us, star pickets and wire are going to survive the fire to some extent. I can see the value looking out my window of keeping the rubbish under control with regular small fires rather than raging hot, burn reducing everything to a crisp, feel for the animals and birds, many nesting holes, regular visits from black cockatoos, and sulfur crested nesting sites. Even insects that were incinerated last time. Not going to happen with the present owners.

rah
June 28, 2021 10:38 am

Well it seems that they have finally settled on what they believe the perfect level atmospheric CO2 should be. “Countless scientists, climate experts, and governments officials agree that 350 ppm is the “safe” level of carbon dioxide.”

So Tony Heller decided to take a look back to see how serene and perfect the weather was back in 1988 when atmospheric CO2 was at the perfect level or less than the countless scientists and politicians believe is perfect.

It’s not a pretty picture. “Countless Scientists” | Real Climate Science

dk_
June 28, 2021 10:46 am

On or about the time of my only opportunity to visit Australia nearly twenty years ago, the controversy du jour was that scientists claimed there was evidence of more than 20,000 years of Native Aboriginal Australians deliberately burning patches of undergrowth. Modern Australia suffers because this simple technique of forest management has been abandoned, just as it has been in the Americas and many other places in the temperate and tropical zones.

I don’t think it has been a month since the BBC loudly scolded Europeans and Americans (North and South) for not following more primitive “green” practices in harmony with nature.

Perhaps the BBC is the problem?

JamesD
Reply to  dk_
June 28, 2021 11:12 am

No, in the America’s we still purposefully burn. It does wonders. A few weeks later, the land greens up with fresh grass that cattle love.

whiten
Reply to  JamesD
June 28, 2021 11:28 am

Fire,
the first and the main tool humanity always utilized to “tame”
nature… and grow successful… and secured from “darkness”.

Oh well, maybe time to abandon all what separates us from animals, and attempt to reverse back to bestiality.

Starting with abandoning the “taming” and utilizing of nature.
Abandoning the human character and human personality… our own core identity… our own meaning.

cheers

MarkW
Reply to  whiten
June 28, 2021 12:02 pm

and attempt to reverse back to bestiality.

Why did an image of hippies come to mind?

whiten
Reply to  MarkW
June 28, 2021 1:02 pm

I can not tell for sure,
but maybe these were the first indoctrinated fools an masse in modern times, who literally believed in peace and love in the realm of humanity,
outside the premise of fire.

Plain good wishful naive fools or idiots, utilized as fodder for cannons… literally.

But if you ask me, at the present we are in a much much worse case of indoctrination, than then.

If a country like UK has gone full length in upholding the case of
a proper betrayal and treason, actually high treason, in proposition of what Great Britain, or a British must be…
than you know the odds are too harsh… in proposition of the collateral damage.

It is so so painful to observe and witness such a disaster… live.

A collapse of Britishness is very very painful to observe and experience.

Too, too much.

Forgive me for my boldness.

😶

cheers

Rich Davis
Reply to  whiten
June 28, 2021 1:29 pm

Whiten, you have long been a riddle inside a mystery, wrapped in an enigma, to coin a phrase 🙂

We’ve established that English is not your native language but you lament the loss of Britishness.

Won’t you please tell us where you’re from and what Britain is to you?

Alastair gray
Reply to  whiten
June 28, 2021 8:30 pm

Rewilding= hogweed,rhododendron, feral pigs impenetrable bramble thicket totally useless for anything. Oh brave new world

dk_
Reply to  JamesD
June 28, 2021 11:43 am

I was thinking of California, where controlled burns have often been blocked, but where the iconic redwoods that once covered the state only propagate after a fire.

rah
Reply to  dk_
June 28, 2021 12:02 pm

On the federal land in the parks they have been doing controlled burns.

Mr.
Reply to  dk_
June 28, 2021 11:14 am

More recent documentation exists in the logs of Capt James Cook’s voyage of discovery & charting the East Coast of Australia in 1770, where they observed the smoke palls of myriad fires burning in the hinterlands of the coasts they were sailing off.

Later terrestrial explorers (after1880) wrote about the “checker board” pattern of burnt bush areas throughout the landscape.

I also recall reading somewhere that the geological record of New Zealand contains evidence of fallout from bushfires in Australia over past millenia that was borne aloft in prevailing westerly winds across the Tasman Sea.

Last edited 3 months ago by Mr.
Duker
Reply to  Mr.
June 29, 2021 2:02 am

The analysis of the soils shows the native people’s in NZ practiced burning as well, but those forests werent adapted to regular burning so that large parts of the country the trees never recovered and grasslands that seem ‘iconic’ are in fact are anthropogenic

Richard Page
Reply to  dk_
June 28, 2021 2:14 pm

Well the BBC is definitely a problem but in this case it’s more like a symptom of the problem. People in urban areas like to think of ‘the great outdoors’ or ‘the countryside’ as an abstract concept; a thing that exists somewhere for their enjoyment on day trips or short holidays where they can enjoy ‘unspoilt nature’ without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.

Dennis
Reply to  dk_
June 28, 2021 8:35 pm

I watched a video made in Western Australia showing forest burnt by bushfire but areas previously burnt in patchwork pattern stopped the bushfire from proceeding further.

The traditional seasonal (weather condition prevailing so cooler and wind direction) burning adopted over time by the Australian Aborigine tribes and today being re-introduced with modern indigenous descendants who are Rangers involved.

Same taking place in Kakadu National Park Northern Territory.

Jeffery P
June 28, 2021 11:43 am

Net zero? Isn’t that the collective IQ of the climate mongers?

Sorry, couldn’t help myself

Greg
June 28, 2021 11:45 am

Biden’s climate change economic suicide pact.

That’s pretty spot on.

Hokey Shtick
June 28, 2021 12:34 pm

[invalid email, despite your previous posting history with it-mod]

Sparko
June 28, 2021 12:38 pm

We really should force the entire BBC to embrace net zero immediately, including all it’s employees travel to work, home life and between filming locations including foreign travel. Until then.

2hotel9
June 28, 2021 12:40 pm

Used to listen to The Bebes, not so much the last 35 years. Pack of human hating scumbags. F**k them.

John V. Wright
June 28, 2021 1:42 pm

“openly throwing doubt on the effects of climate change”. Listening to/watching the BBC is like sitting in with a bunch of infants. There is no questioning, no independent investigation, no fact-checking. Just nodding dog acceptance of what they have been told, nodding dog acceptance of received wisdom.
I was trained as a journalist on a UK evening newspaper. Trained to drill down to the actual facts and report them accurately and honestly. Shaimaa Khalil is just a baby in nappies.

Duker
Reply to  John V. Wright
June 29, 2021 2:07 am

She previously was a correspondent in Pakistan, because we would hope she she knew the culture and people- although a British Asian, however the posting in Australia seems to be maybe she has no knowledge of Australia or it’s people and institutions.

Waza
June 28, 2021 1:43 pm

My wife burnt the koala last night, couldn’t eat it.

Mr.
Reply to  Waza
June 28, 2021 3:39 pm

They cook better in a microwave.

Ryan
Reply to  Waza
June 28, 2021 5:00 pm

I’m not sure anything that feeds on eucalyptus would be edible, so you may have dodged a bullet.

Lank
Reply to  Ryan
June 28, 2021 8:12 pm

Indigenous Australians, prior to European arrival, ate koalas and their numbers were so low when the first Europeans arrived they were not even encountered for many years.

Bruce Cobb
June 28, 2021 1:55 pm

“For Australia, it is not a question of if, or even by when, for net-zero but, importantly, how,” Mr Morrison said.

How about the question of why? Mr. Morrison conveniently skipped over that one. Politicians.

Zigmaster
June 28, 2021 1:58 pm

Australians is a democracy and has continuously supported governments that resist dramatic action on climate change. This is due to the fact that there are enough people who know that in Australia the climate has continually changed and also even if we wanted to do more on climate change it would make zero difference. It is really clear and has been reinforced politically over and over again that Australian voters are not interested in taking any further action.

Gary Pearse
June 28, 2021 3:16 pm

I encourage Australia to keep up resistance against the pressure from the big totalitarians of Europe, US and
China. Your enviable resources are your prosperity and your strength. Find a way also to wake up the drones of South Australia. I wish I could say you will find support from Canada, but right now you are on your own. So be it. The beast is headed for a fall. Hang in there and don’t interrupt their self destruction.

PCman999
June 28, 2021 3:19 pm

It would probably be more effective and cheaper to lay out a billion miles of soaker hose than any plan alarmists come up with. In fact, doing nothing is also more effective than any plan the alarmists have.

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Christopher Hanley
June 28, 2021 3:19 pm

The BBC has a long history of condescension towards Australia and Australians, similarly the US e.g. Trump.
What qualifies Ms Khalil to report on Australia⸮ Obviously nothing.

Mike
June 28, 2021 3:42 pm

I’m an Australian farmer whose farm burned on 1 February 2019.

Our farm burned when an army Blackhawk’s landing light touched of a bushfire in the Namadgi National park. The southern part of the park had not been back burned in 50 years and was think bush, dry due to the then ongoing El Niño drought.

The fire exploded from the park as a crown fire fuels by evaporated Eucalyptus oil. It was entirely due to the mismanagement of the park and the negligence of the army.

La Niña replaced El Niño. Less that two years later the park is regenerating and the government agencies are claiming that climate change, and not their negligence is to blame.

Dennis
Reply to  Mike
June 28, 2021 8:38 pm

UN Agenda 21 – Sustainability (now Agenda 30) was implemented by legislation in Federal and State Parliaments, and regulations administered by Local Government Councils which are now sheltered workshops for Greens who issue fire burning permits and clearing materials from the ground sparingly and reluctantly.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Dennis
June 29, 2021 4:52 am

“UN Agenda 21 – Sustainability (now Agenda 30) was implemented by legislation in Federal and State Parliaments”

Really? Australia is implementing the UN agenda in legislation? That sounds rather ominous. Who thought that was a good idea?

Climate believer
Reply to  Mike
June 29, 2021 9:58 am

Hope you got you’re life back together Mike since that living nightmare.

betapug
June 28, 2021 5:17 pm

Her Masters in Broadcast Journalism from Westminster University clearly did not mention understanding the country you are reporting on. Three months ago she was covering floods, now the fires that follow.
Probably never heard of Dorothea Mackellar’s 1908 “My Country” with the lines that all Australians used to know, “I love a sunburnt country, A land of…droughts and flooding rains”.

Duker
Reply to  betapug
June 29, 2021 2:13 am

Of all the top class London institutions of higher education she just managed London Westminster?

Geoffrey Williams
June 28, 2021 5:46 pm

BBC Australia correspondent Shaimaa Khalil is a typical latter day Brit who has been brainwashed into political correctness and the climate catastrophe meme.
I live in Australia and emigrated from UK in 81 because of brainwashed people.
Little did I know that the brainwashing would quickly spread throughout the Western World.

In the mid 90’s (more than 25 years ago) we experienced horrendous fires that went on all around Sydney. It was frightening. But CO2 levels were low in comparison to the present and at that time there was no mention of climate change. So what has change? Nothing – it’s just the brainwasing !!

Dennis
Reply to  Geoffrey Williams
June 28, 2021 8:42 pm

I remember that time very well, I was living in Sydney but when the bushfires ringed Sydney I was on the Mid North Coast of NSW on holidays. For days we could not drive home as all roads were closed until a newsagent explained that newspaper delivery trucks were heading west over the Blue Mountains to Mudgee and then turning north and then east to Port Macquarie and other coastal districts or elsewhere.

The next day I followed the same route and arrived home later that day, the Blue Mountains were burnt out and in a mess.

Dennis
June 28, 2021 8:11 pm

Attention BBC Ignoramus, Australia signed the UN IPCC Kyoto Japan Agreement and committed to “greenhouse gas emissions reductions” and over the forward period achieved the targets set, one of the very few UN member nations that did.

Australia signed, and without need to do so ratified the Paris France Agreement and accepted the new emissions targets, now focused strangely on what fools call “carbon pollution, Carbon Dioxide, CO2. However Australia is now on track to meet the new targets and again is one of the few countries that will.

After signing the Paris Agreement the UN IPCC and others have tried hard to deny Australia credits gained by achieving earlier emissions reduction targets, in other words they are pushing for Australia to do better despite most countries failing to meet targets and a few even increasing emissions with new coal fired power stations etc., like China and India but others as well.

The BBC fools should be put out to pasture.

Joe
June 28, 2021 9:02 pm

I will happily pay an Australian Carbon Tax if the majority will be used to finance a “Nuclear Australia” initiative. Just imagine, reduced cost or free electricity for any manufacturing concern within 100km of the first plant, ideally located well away from the great Australian Aquifer.

The only problem is one tiny word in one Australian Federal law. Easy fixed?

Joe
June 28, 2021 9:13 pm

I drive regularly through the bush in the recent fire-ravaged areas 100+ km West of Sydney. It took next-to-no-time for the “dead” trees to start sprouting new leaves, and they are doing very well.

Bill Toland
June 28, 2021 11:49 pm

According to NASA, global wildfires have declined by 24% between 1998 and 2015. If you look at the link, the map shows wildfires have also declined in Australia.

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2017/nasa-detects-drop-in-global-fires

Vincent Causey
June 29, 2021 12:00 am

According to climate alarmists, bush fires never occured before “climate change.”

Matthew Sykes
June 29, 2021 1:49 am

Pyrophytes, plants that need fire to reproduce. She is an idiot. Fires are natural, mans actions in putting them out is unnatural. Perhaps we should let it all just burn, do it the natural way eh?

John Kelly
June 29, 2021 4:48 pm

Bloody stupid, ignorant, interfering busybody. Sadly typical of the BBC/ABC. The inner city crowds clearly know nothing as well. I’m lucky to have worked in the mining industry for 40 years and have been able to get out and wander through or drive through all sort of amazing bush right across Australia. Everywhere you go you see the burnt trunks of trees teaming with life after fires from last year or from years ago. As we all know, fire is natural, as are droughts and flooding rains. I love our bush and love camping in it, or just driving in solitude. But one cannot expects idiots like this BBC correspondent to ever understand what its like in our bush and outback. She is too busy sipping lattes.

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