Texas to divest from oil & gas divestors… And trolling North Face

Guest “God blessed Texas” by David Middleton

Boycott Texas oil, and Texas will boycott you, says Gov. Abbott with new law
By RACHEL ADAMS-HEARD on 6/15/2021

(Bloomberg) –Texas is drawing battle lines in a fight against investors and companies turning their backs on fossil fuels.

Governor Greg Abbott signed a bill into law on Monday banning state investments in businesses that cut ties with the oil and gas industry. The underlying message, according to one of the most powerful energy regulators in the state, is simple: Boycott Texas, and we’ll boycott you.

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In another blow to Wall Street, Abbott also signed legislation on Monday that would ban state and local governments from work with companies whose policies restrict the firearms industry. The law could hurt Bank of America Corp. and Citigroup Inc.’s municipal underwriting businesses in Texas, a huge market for state and local debt deals. The banks announced policies that set restrictions on the firearms industry in 2018.

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North Face Jackets

In late May, Abbott also signed a bill restricting cities from banning natural gas hookups in new homes and businesses, after Austin considered phasing out the use of fossil fuels as part of its climate plan.

As corporations increasingly shun fossil fuels in an effort to combat climate change, the oil and gas industry has pointed to the robust demand for its products as evidence that boycotting its companies is hypocritical.

Last year, the chief executive officer of a Houston-based oilfield services firm wrote a four-page letter to the head of The North Face, after the popular outdoor-clothing brand declined to make an order of jackets with his company’s logo as an employee Christmas present.

“The irony in this statement is your jackets are made from oil and gas products the hardworking men and women of our industry produce,” Adam Anderson, CEO of Innovex Downhole Solutions, wrote in a letter first reported by a local TV news station in Odessa, Texas. “I think this stance by your company is counterproductive virtue signaling, and I would appreciate you re-considering this stance.” The North Face didn’t respond to a request for comment.

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World Oil

Oil, gas & guns…

Regarding North Face

This is sort of a follow up to Anthony’s @thenorthface Gets a ‘pie in the face’ for virtue signaling without understanding their own products.

Published June 3
Oil and gas industry trolls North Face with new billboard campaign
North Face facing backlash for rejecting a jacket order from a Texas oil and gas company

By Marisa Schultz FOXBusiness

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Chris Wright, the CEO of Denver-based Liberty Oilfield Services, is spearheading the campaign by putting up billboards around North Face’s Denver offices and launching a website and social media campaign, dubbed “Thank you, North Face.”

The idea for the campaign started after North Face denied an order of jackets to a Texas oil and gas company reportedly because the popular fleece maker did not want its outdoor brand affiliated with the fossil fuel business. 

Now Wright is trolling the company in Denver by calling out how many North Face jackets, backpacks and clothing products are made from oil and gas.

There’s “no chance that North Face could exist as a company or an organization without oil and gas,” Wright told Fox Business Thursday. 

Fossil fuels are needed to make the petrochemicals that are used in the plastics, nylon, climbing ropes and more that North Face sells, Wright says. Oil and gas products fuel the factories that manufacture the goods. And fossil fuels are the backbone for shipping North Face products around the world. 

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FOX Business

Here’s the video:

Thank you, North Face.

Oil & Gas appreciates your business.
-Your friends in Oil & Gas

https://www.thankyounorthface.com/

Ski magazine published an incredibly stupid defense of North Face…

The Oil Industry Attacked The North Face, But Its Argument is All Wrong
Yes, we all use fossil fuels. But we don’t want to. Here’s what really matters.

JUNE 14, 2021
JOHN CLARY DAVIES

The zinger goes like this: If you use oil and gas and criticize the fossil fuel industry or advocate for a clean energy future, you’re a hypocrite.

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The oil and gas industry wants you to think that it’s your emissions that are the problem, not theirs. But since 1988, just 100 companies, including BP, have produced 71 percent of all global emissions. 

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Ten years ago, only 6 percent of The North Face’s synthetic materials were recycled. By fall 2021, that number will reach 72 percent. By 2025, 100 percent of the brand’s most-used apparel materials will be recycled, regenerative or renewable, and The North Face will eliminate all single-use plastic packaging.

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Ski magazine

There so much stupid in this article that I will limit my ridicule to just these excerpts:

Yes, we all use fossil fuels. But we don’t want to.

Then… Stop using them.

If you use oil and gas and criticize the fossil fuel industry or advocate for a clean energy future, you’re a hypocrite.

You are a hypocrite. That’s the definition of hypocrite.

The oil and gas industry wants you to think that it’s your emissions that are the problem, not theirs. But since 1988, just 100 companies, including BP, have produced 71 percent of all global emissions.

That’s because it is your emissions that are the problem. The “just 100 companies, including BP, have produced 71 percent” of the fossil fuels that you (as in all consumers) consumed. The direct and indirect (Scope 1 &2) GHG emissions from oil & gas production are minuscule in comparison to the emissions from consumption (Scope 3).

Ten years ago, only 6 percent of The North Face’s synthetic materials were recycled. By fall 2021, that number will reach 72 percent. By 2025, 100 percent of the brand’s most-used apparel materials will be recycled, regenerative or renewable…

North Face supposedly uses recycled water bottles… Where did they come from? Recycled North Face jackets?

The simple solution would be to just order the jackets from Eddie Bauer. That’s where our company jackets came from and it’s where Innovex Downhole Solutions purchased jackets after North Face did their face plant…

Why Innovex’s CEO Spoke Up about North Face’s Stance on Oil and Gas
A viral letter by the CEO of a Texas-based service company sparked a social media frenzy by oil and gas supporters bringing the importance of industry messaging to the forefront.

Len Vermillion
Hart Energy

Mon, 12/14/2020

Adam Anderson, CEO of Innovex Downhole Solutions Inc., only wanted to buy his employees a Christmas present. Little did he know he’d be thrust into a social media frenzy and become the unlikely center of attention in an ESG movement that is increasingly gripping global businesses, including the oil and gas industry.

It all started when his order for 400 jackets from popular outdoor apparel brand The North Face was rejected. Why? According to Anderson, he was told by his distributor that The North Face rejected the order because Anderson wanted to put the Innovex logo on the jackets, and the company rejected the idea of placing an oil and gas services company logo on its jackets.

It was a curious stance for The North Face to take considering Anderson had received lower quantity orders with his company logo on The North Face jackets in the past. In addition, as many Twitter and Facebook users pointed out, the jackets are made with Nylon, which is a petroleum-based product. 

While Anderson never received a direct response from The North Face or its corporate owner VF Corp., the distributor told Anderson it was told it could not put the Innovex logo on the jackets because it was “not consistent with its brand standards, which they told him was because we are an oil and gas company,” Anderson told Hart Energy in an interview. 

“Officially, they don’t put that in their terminology, but they told him it’s because if you look at their official disclaimer it references other companies they wouldn’t want to be co-branded with such as alcohol, tobacco, porn,” Anderson continued. 

Anderson was able to find another company to sell him the jackets through the distributor—Eddie Bauer.

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John Garrett
June 17, 2021 2:06 pm

Attaboy! Way to go Abbott!

Don’t Mess With Texas !

Scissor
Reply to  John Garrett
June 17, 2021 2:46 pm

I’d buy a South Butt jacket with a Lone Star on it. Just saying.

Bryan A
Reply to  Scissor
June 17, 2021 9:36 pm

Buy the North Face Jackets and have the Innovex Logo embroidered by another vender. Then wear them en-mass to all the North Face Stores

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ATheoK
Reply to  Bryan A
June 18, 2021 3:59 pm

Why bother with an Innovex logo? Just go straight to BP, Exxon, Shell, NRA, etc. logos.

Bryan A
Reply to  ATheoK
June 18, 2021 7:48 pm

Have this embroidered instead…right below their North Face Logo
“This product made possible by Petrochemicals sourced from Oil and Gas exploration”

2hotel9
Reply to  ATheoK
June 19, 2021 3:04 am

Cover it with logos like a Nascar team!

TonyG
Reply to  Bryan A
June 19, 2021 1:51 pm

But be sure to buy them used, no sense giving NF any ill-gained petroleum profit!

Reply to  John Garrett
June 17, 2021 4:20 pm

Read on the Bee that Abbott is going to send Austin back to California

DonM
Reply to  John VC
June 18, 2021 8:16 am

Can he really do that?

Reply to  DonM
June 18, 2021 9:09 am

No. But “the Bee” is a satire ‘news’ site (like the Onion, but funny). It is a joke. And a rather funny one at that.

TonyG
Reply to  Jeff in Calgary
June 18, 2021 11:00 am

The Bee or Not The Bee.

Lately it’s getting difficult to tell.

2hotel9
Reply to  DonM
June 19, 2021 3:06 am

Sure he can, one dump box trailer at a time! Think of all the employment it will generate, and don’t forget the taxes from fuel use and equipment leases.

Robert of Texas
June 17, 2021 2:08 pm

Go “Eddie Bauer”! I used to be a North Face customer, but no more. I an afraid to wear their products now as the “stupidity” might be contagious.

Mark D
Reply to  Robert of Texas
June 18, 2021 7:36 am

I didn’t know what “North Face” was until this kerfuffle. Now I know it is a virtue signalling clown show.

markl
June 17, 2021 2:16 pm

It’s about time someone stood up to these hypocritical virtue signalers. You know, the ones that use fossil fuels and tell others not to. LIke everyone using plastics, driving cars, using electricity, taking medicine, eating food bought from stores, traveling, and a myriad of other uses.

Tom Gelsthorpe
Reply to  markl
June 17, 2021 3:07 pm

Yeah, but deep in their hearts they know the Stone Age was the good old days, they yearn to go back, and drag the rest of us back with ’em.

Gerald Machnee
Reply to  markl
June 17, 2021 3:33 pm

And cell phones and tablets used to spread fiction.

Pat Frank
Reply to  markl
June 17, 2021 10:16 pm

Have you seen this video, Mark?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y564PsKvNZs

Jordan Peterson contrasted with Greta Thunberg, talking about “global warming.”

Notanacademic
Reply to  Pat Frank
June 18, 2021 12:20 am

The young audience look shocked as though it was the first time they’d been told by someone far far more intelligent than them that their beliefs are based on nonsense. Excellent.

JRF in Pensacola
June 17, 2021 2:18 pm

David, as you note, some people are so ignorant (and stupid!).

John Pickens
June 17, 2021 2:27 pm

So Ski magazine “wants to” end use of fossil fuels. Ski resorts use amazing amounts of energy, water pumps and air compressors for snowmaking, diesel fuel for an army of tracked snow grooming equipment, electricity to run ski lifts, heating for ski chalets which sit vacant much of the time, private jets for the well heeled to reach the ski resort, etc, etc.

So Ski magazine will now boycott ski areas? A purely unnecessary use of fossil fuels?

There isn’t a chance in hell that ski areas could operate without fossil fuels. Not now, not for the next 50 years.

Gerald Machnee
Reply to  John Pickens
June 17, 2021 3:34 pm

They can be renamed “Hike Magazine”, 2 for 1 deal.

Max More
Reply to  Gerald Machnee
June 17, 2021 4:27 pm

As in “take a hike”? Yes.

Mr.
Reply to  John Pickens
June 17, 2021 4:10 pm

Yes, well Ski Mag has now convinced me that I need to go back to wooden skis with leather ankle straps for bindings. Seal skin was the leather of choice back in the day. No brakes of course.

Before I make this move though, I should check with PETA and also my accident medical insurer. Maybe also the ski resorts to see if my retro (but GREEN) equipment was permitted for use on their slopes.

Mike Dubrasich
Reply to  John Pickens
June 17, 2021 9:29 pm

Yep. In addition, though slightly off topic, most ski runs are clearcuts. Visit them in the summer and see all the stumps.

DaveW
Reply to  John Pickens
June 18, 2021 1:19 am

So, if I want to follow the NorthFace/Ski positions to their logical conclusion, here’s what really matters:

Ski runs are environmental disaster sites in fragile montane environments and result in the consumption of copious amounts of fossil fuels through unnecessary travel, maintenance of access and shelter, and numerous other totally unnecessary CO2 generation behaviours. Now thanks to NorthFace and Ski magazine we can add personal adornment in fossil fuel products to the list of planet-threatening behaviours. This must stop.

Any and all concerned virtue signalling ski enthusiasts should immediately stop their environmentally destructive behaviours and boycott NorthFace and Ski magazine until they desist from using fossil fuel and its products. I think reparations are in order here and they can be addressed to this site which has proudly refrained from offering WUWT ski jackets for sale.

Cross country skiing is fine, though, as long as your clothing is made from wool donated by free-range sheep.

John Garrett
Reply to  DaveW
June 18, 2021 7:06 am

Well done !!

Lrp
Reply to  DaveW
June 18, 2021 1:23 pm

Does North Face have a line of sheepskin ski clothing?

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Lrp
June 19, 2021 11:08 am

I’d like to see them waterproof it, lol.

Lrp
Reply to  John Pickens
June 18, 2021 1:22 pm

But they don’t want to, evil oil and gas made them do it

Ron Long
June 17, 2021 2:31 pm

Texas and Florida are rapidly emerging as my favorite states.

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  Ron Long
June 17, 2021 3:22 pm

Every time something like this comes up, my wife says “So, when are we moving to Texas again?” She’s not kidding. She doesn’t much appreciate living in the People’s Republic of New Jerseystan.

Darrin
Reply to  D. J. Hawkins
June 18, 2021 11:30 am

Mine told me 6 months ago she wanted to move to Texas and she’s never been there but I have and said we aren’t. Texas is to blasted hot or to blasted hot and humid for me depending on where you are at. I love Texan’s attitude but just say no to some place that hot! I’m from the PNW and appreciate my year around mild weather.

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  David Middleton
June 19, 2021 11:10 am

Had a friend from Minot, ND who said North Dakota had two seasons – winter and construction.

Cliff Hilton
June 17, 2021 2:53 pm

From one Texan to another, David, thanks for writing about this.

North Face should start making their products from silicon. Should be a success.

Gerald Machnee
Reply to  Cliff Hilton
June 17, 2021 3:35 pm

They could use wool but that would get the SPCA excited.

John
Reply to  Gerald Machnee
June 18, 2021 6:21 am

Or PITA.

Redge
Reply to  Cliff Hilton
June 18, 2021 12:05 am

North Face and every other volume manufacturer in the world wouldn’t exist without reliable, on-demand fossil fuels

No Microsoft, no Apple, no Google, no Amazon, no North Face, no Coca Cola…

You get the point

Dave Andrews
Reply to  Redge
June 18, 2021 8:05 am

No Amazon. That might be a plus!.

ATheoK
Reply to  Cliff Hilton
June 18, 2021 4:31 pm

Perhaps spin glass, SiO₂, into a microfiber?
That should be a winning strategy for urban adventurers. Better than a human hair shirt and fire resistant, they’re not likely to enjoy wearing fiberglass for more than one virtue signaling event.

Alan
June 17, 2021 3:03 pm

And doesn’t it take oil and gas to do recycling? All that old material just doesn’t magically turn in to new products.

gringojay
Reply to  Alan
June 17, 2021 4:01 pm

What a feather weight in the thinking department I am planning on being able to just compost my used stuff.

Notanacademic
Reply to  Alan
June 18, 2021 12:27 am

Exactly. Nobody seems to consider that recycling is itself an industrial process

ATheoK
Reply to  Alan
June 18, 2021 4:41 pm

We’ve had posts that discuss recycling.
What is called recycling is generally paying some other country to accept out trash in return for money.

Tom Gelsthorpe
June 17, 2021 3:05 pm

A major marketer of synthetic fleece and vehicular delivery, renounces the use of hydrocarbons. Sounds like another candidate for the Funny Farm.

In other news, a major marketer of eggs renounces the use of chickens, and a major marketer of wood renounces the use of trees. Colleges all across the world renounce the use of books.

The Funny Farm’s getting backlogged.

Abolition Man
Reply to  Tom Gelsthorpe
June 17, 2021 7:33 pm

Tom,
Too late on that last one! It seems that most colleges have already renounced all books written by anyone with wit, wisdom or great storytelling talent! The only books allowed now will be ones pushing the Progressive SJW agenda that has swept through academia like a doomsday cult religion!

TEWS_Pilot
June 17, 2021 3:05 pm

I did an Internet search for ski wear and winter jackets and found this site….might be worth checking out….have no idea about their politics.


https://obermeyer.com
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Scissor
Reply to  TEWS_Pilot
June 17, 2021 3:23 pm

Obermeyer makes (or imports) good sports wear.

TEWS_Pilot
Reply to  Scissor
June 17, 2021 3:33 pm

Are they normal or Leftards?

Lawrence Sellin
June 17, 2021 3:18 pm

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Scissor
Reply to  Lawrence Sellin
June 17, 2021 3:25 pm

Ever hear of the pinball Wizard? You’d be surprised what limitations can be overcome.

AWG
Reply to  Scissor
June 17, 2021 4:01 pm

I would place my bets on the blind man if a gun fight breaks out in a bedroom at night.

TEWS_Pilot
Reply to  AWG
June 17, 2021 4:25 pm

I have a friend who is blind from birth. He lives alone quite comfortably. Family and friends check on him regularly to make sure he has no problems or needs. Naturally he does not turn on lights at night, but I would venture that if someone broke into his house at night, as well as he knows every inch of it, he would have the advantage, and he does practice with a hand gun…with the aid of sighted assistants for safety…and he hits the audibly-modified targets with great accuracy.

ATheoK
Reply to  TEWS_Pilot
June 18, 2021 4:58 pm

There are several movies filmed on the premise of thugs trying to rob/hurt a blind person in the blind person’s domicile at night.
Most don’t end well for the thugs.

JBP
Reply to  Lawrence Sellin
June 17, 2021 3:27 pm

I don’t see your point here.

TonyG
Reply to  JBP
June 18, 2021 9:40 am

JBP, he doesn’t have one.

George T
Reply to  Lawrence Sellin
June 17, 2021 3:46 pm

I suppose you believe guns kill people, when in fact it’s people who kill people? An inanimate object cannot function or act on its own accord without a human input. Your cheap shot is par for the course for those who must resort to ridicule and mockery.

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ATheoK
Reply to  George T
June 18, 2021 5:06 pm

Whether it’s guns, spears, swords, knives, sticks, clubs or rocks, there are thousands of years history proving that inanimate objects are not dangerous until bad people get their hands on them.

The Book of Genesis documents the first murder as committed by a person using a rock.
Never has a society banned inanimate objects and successfully reduced violence. Those societies found that banning inanimate objects increased oppression subjugating lower class persons into peasantry and serfdom while allowing elites and military to abuse the lower classes.

AWG
Reply to  Lawrence Sellin
June 17, 2021 3:59 pm

Blind people are second class citizens and aren’t permitted to defend themselves?
Also, “blind” doesn’t necessarily mean totally blind.
And last, are you assuming that blind people, categorically speaking, are too stupid and irresponsible to be able to make their own decisions and must be wards of the State? Lose your sight, lose not only your Rights but also your mind?

Rud Istvan
Reply to  Lawrence Sellin
June 17, 2021 4:09 pm

LS, you really do not belong here, as you continue to distinguish yourself negatively. I could have been much more explicit. But just a couple of very recent examples. You make the usual mistake of confounding weather with climate. And you make the usual mistake of confounding virtue signaling with serious stuff. And, finally, you make usual mistake of thinking us deniers/deplorables are too dumb to know the difference.

Low Regards from a Harvard BA summa, HLS cum, and HBS Baker scholar.

Rud Istvan
Reply to  David Middleton
June 17, 2021 5:13 pm

Dave, I screwed up. Properly, given my comment, a couple should have been a few. Otherwise, unrevised.

Lawrence Sellin
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June 17, 2021 5:15 pm

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Derg
Reply to  Lawrence Sellin
June 17, 2021 5:21 pm

What do you have against blind people?

Rud Istvan
Reply to  Lawrence Sellin
June 17, 2021 5:24 pm

You fail again, LS. DeSantis is my governor.
Boy, are you a stupid troll.
You ought to follow the Army’s first rule of holes:
when in one wanting out, first stop digging. You keep digging. Not a good look.

Lawrence Sellin
Reply to  Rud Istvan
June 17, 2021 5:27 pm

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Rud Istvan
Reply to  Lawrence Sellin
June 17, 2021 5:34 pm

Your problem is that mine was explicitly to you.

Lawrence Sellin
Reply to  Rud Istvan
June 17, 2021 7:47 pm

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MarkW
Reply to  Lawrence Sellin
June 17, 2021 7:41 pm

Another troll who actually believes that these conversations are one on one. I notice you replying to many people who weren’t talking to you. But according to you, nobody can do the same to you.

Lawrence Sellin
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June 17, 2021 7:48 pm

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Lawrence Sellin
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June 17, 2021 7:50 pm

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Rich Davis
Reply to  Lawrence Sellin
June 17, 2021 5:34 pm

Perspective drivers? Those are the ones with binocular vision I suppose?

I think that you meant to say prospective, Larry.

Why don’t you just go back to the basement and wait for mom to let you know that your chicken nuggets and apple slices are ready to eat?

MarkW
Reply to  Lawrence Sellin
June 17, 2021 5:36 pm

It really is sad how liberals hate anyone who disagrees with them. To the point of having to always having to assume the worst of anyone who isn’t like them.

MarkW
Reply to  David Middleton
June 17, 2021 7:42 pm

Didn’t LS say earlier that he was here to provide amusement?

Lawrence Sellin
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June 17, 2021 7:54 pm

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Lawrence Sellin
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June 17, 2021 7:53 pm

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John Endicott
Reply to  Lawrence Sellin
June 18, 2021 5:31 am

Own a lib? heck you couldn’t pay me enough to take one on a temporary basis let alone own one.

Bryan A
Reply to  Lawrence Sellin
June 18, 2021 12:44 pm

Abe Lincoln saw to be elimination of ownership of people. So you can’t OWN a Liberal but you can certainly PWN them

Komerade Cube
Reply to  MarkW
June 18, 2021 11:10 am

But its fun the way they hurl stupid insults at people while firmly believing they’re making a cogent arugment.

ResourceGuy
Reply to  Lawrence Sellin
June 17, 2021 6:56 pm

You mean like self driving cars and auto pilot ones that are out there now?

establ
Reply to  Lawrence Sellin
June 18, 2021 1:55 pm

Here is Wisconsin our idiot communist democrat governor made it so you don’t have to take a driver’s test to get a license. My nephew just got his license with no test after having his temps for 6 months. This was done because of covid, but now they want to make it permanent.

Lawrence Sellin
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June 17, 2021 5:19 pm

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June 17, 2021 5:28 pm

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Rud Istvan
Reply to  Lawrence Sellin
June 17, 2021 5:52 pm

Well, actually, as the several years marketing head of Navistar, I have done that, albeit only on test tracks. Scary knowing there are 80,000 pounds of deadweight behind your cab brakes. As a novice wimp, never got the rig over 60.

Lawrence Sellin
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June 17, 2021 7:58 pm

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MarkW
Reply to  Lawrence Sellin
June 17, 2021 7:44 pm

Can you provide some evidence that you have any experience with reality? So far you have failed at that.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  MarkW
June 18, 2021 11:27 am

He won’t be around long. This type shows up for a few days, trashes the conversation, and then leaves realizing he didn’t have the effect he thought he would have.

ATheoK
Reply to  Lawrence Sellin
June 18, 2021 5:21 pm

LS sounds like a basement dwelling 12 year old pretending to things it does not understand?
Watches some silly reality show then imitates the actors while believing that is how real CDL licensed drivers act or talk.

Silly deluded twit.

Lawrence Sellin
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June 17, 2021 5:40 pm

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June 17, 2021 8:00 pm

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MarkW
Reply to  Lawrence Sellin
June 17, 2021 7:46 pm

I’m trying to decide if you are deliberately being funny, or if you just can’t help yourself.

TonyG
Reply to  MarkW
June 18, 2021 9:44 am

MarkW
We’ve had some pretty nutso trolls around here, but this Lawrence character has outdone all of them put together. In two posts I’ve now seen more nonsense and irrelvancy than the entire previous month’s worth or reading.

Abolition Man
Reply to  David Middleton
June 17, 2021 7:52 pm

David,
You should be gentle with Little Larry; it sounds like his impressive career as a truck drivin’ man was cut tragically short due to severe rectal/cranial inversion!
Losing Northface will not be a great loss; they were always overpriced and lots of other companies make high quality gear! As a 50+ year REI Co-op member I used to go into Northface stores to see how much more idiots would pay for that cute little logo! It was always good for a laugh or two!

Rich Davis
Reply to  David Middleton
June 18, 2021 3:41 am

Minor correction, I’m pretty sure Loser Larry is still munching lead paint chips in his mum’s basement.

John Endicott
Reply to  David Middleton
June 18, 2021 5:35 am

If you hadn’t grown up eating lead paint chips”

David, what makes you think he’s ever grown up? Judging from his posts he’s still a child (regardless of what his biological age may be).

MarkW
Reply to  Lawrence Sellin
June 17, 2021 5:37 pm

And once again, the liberal demonstrates that not only is he incapable of independent thought, he has great hatred and contempt towards those who don’t suffer from his own deficiencies.

Lawrence Sellin
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June 17, 2021 8:01 pm

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Rory Forbes
Reply to  Lawrence Sellin
June 17, 2021 5:45 pm

I’m here for the laughs, the kind you provide.

Naw, you’re here because you’re a glutton for punishment … a masochist.

John Endicott
Reply to  Rory Forbes
June 18, 2021 5:37 am

Nah, like all trolls he’s simply here for the attention. Apparently his mommy does stop by the basement often enough to give him all the attention he craves.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  John Endicott
June 18, 2021 9:27 am

Chuckle … aw, the poor guy.

Lrp
Reply to  Rory Forbes
June 18, 2021 1:39 pm

He’s a troll in the mould of nyolci; he could be nyolci.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Lrp
June 18, 2021 5:37 pm

He’s a troll in the mould of nyolci; he could be nyolci.

Wouldn’t surprise me in the least. It’s clear they/it knows little about the topic.

Komerade Cube
Reply to  Lawrence Sellin
June 18, 2021 11:13 am

Hey Larry, are you another Griff pseudonym? I’m thinking you’re another CCP paid troll, leaping in here to disrupt intelligent discourse and fill the comments with incoherent nonsense. Are you hoping to drive your betters away by saturating the pages with gibberish, or are you getting paid by the word?

Doonman
Reply to  Lawrence Sellin
June 17, 2021 5:25 pm

Why shouldn’t blind people have the same rights as sighted people?

Or do you just pick on the handicapped for laughs, since that’s the reason you said you come here.

Lawrence Sellin
Reply to  Doonman
June 17, 2021 5:43 pm

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Doonman
Reply to  Lawrence Sellin
June 17, 2021 8:02 pm

Driving is a privilege not a right.

Now that you’ve been educated, answer the question.

MarkW
Reply to  Lawrence Sellin
June 17, 2021 5:32 pm

As opposed to your preferred solution under which only criminals are permitted to own firearms?

Lawrence Sellin
Reply to  MarkW
June 17, 2021 5:44 pm

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MarkW
Reply to  Lawrence Sellin
June 17, 2021 7:47 pm

Are you truely this dense, or are you being paid to look like a liberal?

Abolition Man
Reply to  MarkW
June 17, 2021 9:43 pm

Mark,
I think he does all his work pro bono! He doesn’t sound smart enough to get anything other than a can of whoop@$$!!

Lrp
Reply to  MarkW
June 18, 2021 1:42 pm

You need to stop wrestling with this pig

Graemethecat
Reply to  Lawrence Sellin
June 17, 2021 9:37 pm

“Criminals don’t care for the Law”.

Liberal dimwit Lawrence Sellin inadvertently tells the truth.

Thank you so much for demonstrating why gun control laws don’t work.

DonM
Reply to  Lawrence Sellin
June 18, 2021 8:59 am

Please Lawrence, what is your concern?

The legislation got rid of restrictions. Texas is now similar to 20 other States in this regard.

Is you main complaint that (legally) blind people weren’t added to the standard list of:

  • Felony convictions
  • Some misdemeanor convictions
  • probation or deferred adjudication
  • certain pending criminal charges
  • chemical or alcohol dependency
  • certain types of psychological diagnoses
  • and protective or restraining orders.

Larry … did you know that the Feds do not restrict (legally) blind folks from obtaining a firearm?

You should follow up and take your concerns to Kammie and Joe.

Editor
June 17, 2021 3:43 pm

David: Good article. One more point, is about those 100 companies. Vast majority of emissions are from National Oil Companies. The most production, and from experience, more leaks and less efficient production.

National oil companies, not internationals like Exxon or Chevron, control most oil production and reserves.

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John Garrett
Reply to  Les Johnson
June 20, 2021 8:53 am

That’s an excellent chart. It quickly conveys the reality of petroleum reserves and production.

It’s entirely possible that even an economic illiterate or an innumerate (I AM trying very hard to be apolitical) might be able to comprehend the facts.

I wonder if the author categorized LUKoil as a “National Oil Company” (in case you’re wondering, LUKoil is 100% privately owned).

How would one categorize Rosneft’s production and reserves? (BP owns 20% of Rosneft). Rosneft ADRs can be bought in the U.S.

Andy Pattullo
June 17, 2021 4:52 pm

I’ll get down to Eddie Bouer tomorrow and snap up more of those wearable fossil fuels. Half my wardrobe is from there.

June 17, 2021 5:10 pm

How do you “Recycle” any North Face Jacket? Where do I take it?
Why not give to the homeless? For that matter have you ever seen a homeless person wearing a North Face jacket/coat?
I seriously doubt that even as much as 1% of the items they have sold have been reprocessed, recycled, even reused. They end up in the trash, like the plastic straws.

Worse, did the even give a thought of ALL of the people, Snowboarders, Snow skiers, Snowmobilers, etc. How can they participate in these sports with no fossil fuel? Electric Snowmobile? LOLOLOLOLOL Snowboards made from wood ONLY? LOL

John
June 17, 2021 5:23 pm

Good by North Face
You are now an albatross
hope you die in the doldrums like the ancient mariner

as for recycling 100%! – how do you get your people who by jackets to return them

Using recycled plastics from another source is just a cop out

Smart Rock
June 17, 2021 5:36 pm

There’s plenty of “natural” materials for North Face to make clothes from: wool, cotton, linen, silk, hemp and isn’t there something made from bamboo? And real leather for the bits that need reinforcing, and feathers or down for insulation. That was the way it was done before synthetic fabrics appeared, so it’s not like they would have to invent the wheel or anything.

Of course, their products would be much more expensive, less durable, more tricky to wash and dry without shrinking or stretching, and they might look relatively drab. Plus they would tend to get eaten by moths when stored in the closet. But this is the way it used to be, in the Arcadian paradise that existed for thousands of years before those evil fossil fuel companies forced their planet-destroying products down our throats (against our will!). Think of the virtue signalling they could do!

And let’s not forget the real fur trim! Something for PETA to get worked up.

ATheoK
Reply to  Smart Rock
June 18, 2021 6:04 pm

 isn’t there something made from bamboo”

Don’t be fooled.

Bamboo supplies cellulose and lignins that are processed into resins that are used in processes just as rayon is processed…
There is no Rumpelstiltskin spinning gold from bamboo.

In fact, careful reading shows that Bamboo Tencil’s attributes are identical to rayon’s attributes.

There is nothing natural about the process, that is, if rayon is considered unnatural, so is Tencil or whatever the current product name is.

H.R.
June 17, 2021 5:38 pm

The oil and gas industry wants you to think that it’s your emissions that are the problem, not theirs. But since 1988, just 100 companies, including BP, have produced 71 percent of all global emissions.

That’s because it is your emissions that are the problem. The “just 100 companies, including BP, have produced 71 percent” of the fossil fuels that you (as in all consumers) consumed. The direct and indirect (Scope 1 &2) GHG emissions from oil & gas production are minuscule in comparison to the emissions from consumption (Scope 3).

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That one always amazes me. If you want to put the oil and gas companies out of business, stop using oil and gas.

No customers? I can assure you the oil and gas companies will stop production. Simples.

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ResourceGuy
June 17, 2021 5:42 pm

Texas has room for the influx, but I’m not sure about Florida with the competing domestic migrants and international ones.

Mason
Reply to  ResourceGuy
June 18, 2021 5:18 am

I am not sure about that. I think we need an entry test with limits on liberals from California and NY. Our southern border influx thanks to slo Joe is near 150,000 a month with little or nothing to provide. Austin and Houston continue their march towards crazy liberal ideas.

ResourceGuy
June 17, 2021 5:48 pm

There are plenty of fund managers, insurance companies, investment consultants, and other service providers that need to be checked for their idiot pledge credentials. Don’t forget to x out Blackstone.

ResourceGuy
June 17, 2021 6:11 pm

There are a lot of California based investment fund managers and investment consultants that need extra scrutiny on this.

Crispin Pemberton-Pigott
June 17, 2021 6:24 pm

just 100 companies, including BP, have produced 71 percent of all global emissions. “

No they don’t, their customers produce most of those emissions. That silly sentence is like blaming house fires on the logging company because they sold sawn timber to the Eddy Match Company.

The only reason they say things like that is because they see a big pot of gold whenever they see “oil” and assume by hook, crook, lies of omission and sins of commission, they will get some of it.

ResourceGuy
June 17, 2021 6:30 pm

Good luck finding the list of investment managers for Texas public pension funds and their contracts.

John Hultquist
June 17, 2021 9:44 pm

I’m sure I own things made by hypocrites, but North Face isn’t one of them.

ozspeaksup
June 18, 2021 4:24 am

LOVE the billboards
great blowback move;-)

H.R.
Reply to  ozspeaksup
June 18, 2021 10:34 am

As I read it, the billboards are all near the North Face headquarters.

Talk about “In your face!” 🧨💥💥
🤣

rah
June 18, 2021 5:57 am

This former SF high Alpine and extreme cold weather warrior, who has “Berg Heiled” the three highest peaks in Europe, is here to tell you that what works the best is what experienced climbers will use and they won’t care where it came from or what it is made from. The safety and survival margins are far too thin to do otherwise.

There is no doubt in my mind that I am still among the living because of modern synthetic gear.

Jeffery P
June 18, 2021 6:47 am

I lived in the Austin area for two and half miserable years. Fortunately, I choose to live outside Travis county, because the City of Austin and Travis County are fanatically left-wing and property taxes are outrageous.

As a new Texas resident, I was struck regarding how many laws the state passes to keep Austin from regulating everybody and everything. Seems there’s like a dozen laws passed every year to prevent or undo some policy Austin was considering or already implemented.

Abolition Man
Reply to  Jeffery P
June 18, 2021 8:57 am

It’s all the infectious thought pathogens carried and transmitted by college professors! Politicians, being weak willed, are almost as susceptible as the weak minded students!
Sometimes not even years of fact and reality consumption can counteract the insidious mind disease of Progressivism!

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Tom Abbott
Reply to  Jeffery P
June 18, 2021 11:40 am

Austin is where the University of Texas is located. Most univerities have been compromised by radical leftwing ideology, so areas around universities are made up of individuals who have been indoctrinated and vote accordingly.

The radical Left is on the verge of hijacking the entire education system. Normal people have started to become aware of this danger, and are starting to fight back against the political indoctrination of our young people by the education system. It’s not too late to turn this around, but it will not be an easy fight because the radical Left is firmly entrenched and are determined to brainwash our kids into looking at the world the way the radical Left does.

ATheoK
June 18, 2021 3:54 pm

Ten years ago, only 6 percent of The North Face’s synthetic materials were recycled. By fall 2021, that number will reach 72 percent. By 2025, 100 percent of the brand’s most-used apparel materials will be recycled, regenerative or renewable…”

TNF goes to great marketing bafflegab lengths to avoid stating what their current level of recycled materials are…

North Face supposedly uses recycled water bottles… Where did they come from? Recycled North Face jackets?”

That was twenty or more years ago. Then the factory that recycled the soda bottles burned down. Causing a severe shortage of microfiber clothes for a couple of years; just as microfiber was widely accepted by consumers.

In short, that is an old reality that was never allowed to catch up to reality.

Somewhere around when new microfiber factories were constructed overseas, it was found that recycling soda bottles into microfiber was much more complicated thereby far more expensive process. That consistent better quality microfiber is produced from raw materials, not recycled.

6% recycled materials, that would be the zippers, handles, aluminum stays and tent poles.
If TNF pays the originating countries enough money, they’ll happily lie to eco-loons about the sources for TNF products.

2hotel9
June 19, 2021 3:28 am

Don’t own any NF clothes, have always considered them pretentious just from their ads. May go by Goodwill and pick some up just to cover with oil and gas company logos and Send NF pics. As for the whole divest movement, good, target the enemy no matter where they are hiding.

Trying to Play Nice
June 23, 2021 5:14 am

I didn’t realize The North Face was still around. It used to be extremely popular but now I see Patagonia everywhere.

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