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New Zealand Climate Commission Report Recommends Fewer Cars, More Electric, Fewer Cows

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Climate ambition meet Modern Monetary Theory – a slap for every remaining productive sector of the New Zealand economy.

Ardern says climate crisis is ‘life or death’ as New Zealand landmark report calls for sweeping changes

Climate Commission recommends shift to electric cars, large-scale agricultural reform and an end to reliance on gas in homes

Tess McClure in Christchurch @tessairini
Wed 9 Jun 2021 12.09 AEST

New Zealand has been handed a new vision for dramatic reduction of its greenhouse gas emissions – including reduced animal numbers on farms, no new household gas connections by 2025, and a dramatic shift to electric cars in the next decade.

The report laid out pathways for New Zealand to meet its greenhouse gas reduction obligations by 2050. They include wide-scale agricultural reform to reduce methane emissions, dropping herd sizes by 10%-15%, ending imports of combustion-engine cars, eliminating new household gas connections, and less travel by car overall. Some of those changes would need to be dramatic transformations: to meet its goal for transport emissions, New Zealand would need to increase electric vehicle share of the market to 50% in the next 10 years. It is now around 1-2%.

At the release of the commission’s advice, Ardern said the report was “one of the most significant documents I’ll receive in my time as prime minister”.

She also noted that the path ahead would be challenging for New Zealand. “Having a roadmap doesn’t change the fact the road will be steep and tough at times,” she said.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/09/jacinda-ardern-climate-crisis-life-or-death-landmark-report-new-zealand-electric-cars-farms

The full report is available here, but it is pretty heavy going. I didn’t make it past the self congratulation, assurances of respect for the indigenes, and repeated claims the report is objective. The signal to noise ratio makes it close to unreadable.

If New Zealand intends to follow the report recommendations, New Zealand likely needs to find a lot of money for subsidising Lithium electric cars, building new renewable generators, and building or renovating houses so they can survive New Zealand’s brutal winters without fossil fuel heating. But the Ardern government probably thinks lack of money is not a problem. New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern openly embraces Modern Monetary Theory.

According to Wikipedia, MMT’s main tenets are that a government that issues its own fiat money:

  1. Can pay for goods, services, and financial assets without a need to first collect money in the form of taxes or debt issuance in advance of such purchases;
  2. Cannot be forced to default on debt denominated in its own currency;
  3. Is limited in its money creation and purchases only by inflation, which accelerates once the real resources (labour, capital and natural resources) of the economy are utilized at full employment;
  4. Recommends strengthening automatic stabilisers to control demand-pull inflation[10] rather than relying upon discretionary tax changes;
  5. Bond issues are a monetary policy device, not a funding device.

The idea appears to be governments can print money whenever they run short, limited only by the risk of triggering hyperinflation or stagflation. President Joe Biden’s advisors are also reportedly fans of Modern Monetary Theory.

While the already rich do very well in a loose fiscal environment, such as the environment created by practitioners of Modern Monetary Theory, some might suggest excessive money printing has negative effects, like debasing the value of the cash savings of pensioners and other people of limited means. But I guess the government can always help pensioners out with some of that newly minted money, if they behave.

There are well known methods to restrain demand pull inflation in a loose fiscal environment. For example the government could radically increase the supply of workers, flooding the market with labor, to counter demand pull upward pressure on wages. More workers chasing the same number of jobs makes it difficult to demand a raise, even if the cost of living is rising.

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David Kamakaris
June 9, 2021 6:06 pm

I recommend fewer climate change zealots.

n.n
Reply to  David Kamakaris
June 9, 2021 6:48 pm

Open top hole, insert hoof, chew the carbon cud.

Reduce, Reuse, Redistributive change. Yeah, there’s a clinic for that, and with an 8 to 1 parts, organs, and cellular exchange rate, an individual human life is not worth the social cost of CO2 we… it emits.

cedarhill
Reply to  David Kamakaris
June 10, 2021 4:56 am

And, she could be a true leader by organizing all NZ folks that want the same thing as her into a group and arranging a one-way trip to Jonestown.

bluecat57
Reply to  David Kamakaris
June 10, 2021 5:38 am

Cut out the middle-man and remove all corn restrictions and let people die. Then fewer of those things will occur naturally.
Government always complicates things.

June 9, 2021 6:09 pm

No thankyou NZ. Just put burp bags on your cows and leave the rest of us to enjoy our Filet Mignons on the barbie.

n.n
Reply to  UV Meter
June 9, 2021 6:55 pm

Top hole, maybe. Back hole, certainly. Hermetically sealed bags for vegans. We can call it the Clean Your Air Act (CYAA).

Hasbeen
Reply to  n.n
June 10, 2021 5:16 am

That would have to be plastic bags.

bluecat57
Reply to  n.n
June 10, 2021 5:39 am

CYA act.

Dennis
Reply to  UV Meter
June 9, 2021 7:08 pm

As a beef producer said, cattle eats grass and grains, so beef is obviously a vegan food.

tonyb
Editor
Reply to  Dennis
June 9, 2021 11:20 pm

surely if NZ drop cattle by 10/15% some other country will make up the shortfall by getting 10/15% more, probably not being fed on natural grass?

tonyb

B Clarke
Reply to  tonyb
June 10, 2021 3:41 am

The key is herd numbers, you might well mandate a maximum herd size, but you can always have another herd, as uk farmers do , we herd number cattle number stamped on plastic yellow tags fixed to a cows ear.

Davidf
Reply to  B Clarke
June 10, 2021 3:54 pm

In New Zealand, there is a national register of all farm animals, every single one is tracked – even lifestyle blocks with maybe 2 steers. Its there for controlling serious animal health outbreaks, which is sensible.

n.n
June 9, 2021 6:27 pm

Vexing of the vegans. What are you going to do. And these are ruminants designed to process the dietary and social green stuff.

Dennis
Reply to  n.n
June 9, 2021 7:10 pm

I wonder if the NZ Labour former global leader of the socialist youth movement has been told that the word vegan originated as part of a primitive language, it means incompetent hunter.

Spetzer86
Reply to  n.n
June 10, 2021 5:27 am

Wonder how many more Vegans you can feed after you outlaw the tractor’s diesel?

Mickey Reno
Reply to  Spetzer86
June 10, 2021 6:59 am

Someone needs a little dose of Quick Dick McDick:

n.n
June 9, 2021 6:37 pm

Planes, trains, automobiles, urbane blacktop lifestyles, the insidious shared/shifted responsibility of intermittent/renewables, and the progressive vexing of vegans are first-order forcings of catastrophic anthropogenic climate cooling… warming… change. Baby… I mean zero carbon footprints, hoofprints, I suppose, at the Twilight Fringe.

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Dennis
Reply to  n.n
June 9, 2021 7:11 pm

I wonder what the last life form on Earth would be if CO2 emissions were reduced below life survival level, at 410 ppm in the atmosphere it’s not far above the red flag level.

Scissor
Reply to  Eric Worrall
June 9, 2021 8:39 pm

In this age of Pharmageddon, fungi are the yeast of our worries.

ross
Reply to  Scissor
June 9, 2021 10:34 pm

More beerable than the politicians

RdM
Reply to  ross
June 10, 2021 3:18 am

A different Ross here, but to quote from

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/08/we-are-a-role-model-how-james-shaw-pushed-new-zealand-towards-a-zero-carbon-future

“Our” Climate Change Minister enjoys a craft beer, (oops, escaping carbon dioxide!!!) but can’t name a book or music.

“The political, for now, leaves no time for much else. He draws a blank when asked to name books or music he enjoys; weekends will, if he’s lucky, involve a walk with his wife, Annabel and a craft beer – “one of my greatest pleasures of modern Wellington” – when the work he brings home allows it.

The table-top role-playing game Dungeons and Dragons, always a big part of his life, is on the back-burner. He only keeps up with new episodes of Star Trek: Discovery because he is not allowed to read ministerial papers on aeroplanes.

“There’s a thing particularly about sci fi where you’re imagining possible futures,” he says. “And so interestingly, there’s a coherence there between what we do here and that.”

But he says his move to politics and all has come with it will be worthwhile if “that was the moment when we got on top of our emissions and started to bring them down.””
_

Time we got rid of the idiots, started to bring them down.

Pariah Dog
Reply to  Eric Worrall
June 10, 2021 12:57 am

Politicians are not fun guys…

eo
June 9, 2021 6:41 pm

Western civilization carries within itself the seeds of its own destruction called climate change.

Dennis
Reply to  eo
June 9, 2021 7:14 pm

Actually climate change is a diversionary hoax based on natural climate changing over time, the real objective is to collapse the free market capitalist system that has resulted in the increasing prosperity of developed nations and developing nations.

Consider that China adopted capitalism noting the wealth of the USA.

Derg
Reply to  eo
June 10, 2021 3:36 am

Along with China. It is rather comical that western civilizations try to remove fossil fuels by purchasing stupid solar panels for their grids which are made by China who uses fossil fuels and slave labor to make them and fossil fuels to ship them. Finally, western civilizations use fossil fuels to install, maintain and back them up.

Even the half wit Simon couldn’t come up with that kind of stupid.

John Endicott
Reply to  Derg
June 10, 2021 7:13 am

“Even the half wit Simon couldn’t come up with that kind of stupid”

Not for lack of trying. 🙂

John Endicott
Reply to  eo
June 10, 2021 7:12 am

Western civilization carries within itself the seeds of it’s own destruction called climate change. climate alamist policies

There, fixed that for you.

June 9, 2021 6:44 pm

Check out the overwhelming number of downsides to electric vehicles,

https://catallaxyfiles.com/2021/06/07/a-note-on-the-downside-of-electric-vehicles/

Chaswarnertoo
Reply to  Rafe Champion
June 9, 2021 11:53 pm

Yep. They do bugger all for ‘saving the planet’. Have we reached peak insanity, yet?

WR2
June 9, 2021 6:44 pm

These are all things people could do voluntarily if they really thought it was impactful and worthwhile…why do leftists demand these solutions only through government coercion? The answer is because these same leftists don’t make these sacrifices now, and don’t intend to in the future, they just want to impose it on the little people.

Mr.
Reply to  WR2
June 9, 2021 7:40 pm

NZ reducing its emissions of any kind –
who would notice?

Craig from Oz
Reply to  Mr.
June 9, 2021 8:15 pm

NZ
who would notice?

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Craig from Oz
June 9, 2021 8:29 pm

NZ?

shortie of greenbank
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
June 9, 2021 9:33 pm

only if the Maoris didn’t have enough to eat….

farmerbraun
Reply to  Craig from Oz
June 9, 2021 10:08 pm

Ozzie rugby teams would notice that suddenly they are winning games . . .maybe.
🙂

Chris Nisbet
Reply to  Mr.
June 9, 2021 9:54 pm

According to that report, NZ CO2 emissions amount to a global temperature increase of about 2×10-5 ‘C.
I wasn’t quite sure how I was meant to interpret the graph, but no matter how you look at it, that’s a pretty small amount.
We’re expected to wreck everything for that?

Peter East
Reply to  Chris Nisbet
June 10, 2021 2:56 pm

Yes. Sadly!

RMT
Reply to  Mr.
June 9, 2021 11:21 pm

Wait a minute… Are you saying NZ’s emissions reduction will not offset China’s emissions increases? Better not tell Greta this.

Reply to  RMT
June 10, 2021 6:26 am

Mining of Bitcoin is said to produce more CO2 than NZ.

TonyG
Reply to  Mr.
June 10, 2021 9:24 am

That’s a big problem IMO. Not just NZ – what if all of Europe, US, Canada, Australia, NZ ALL reduced CO2 emissions to 0? How much impact would that have on worldwide emissions? (That’s a real question – I don’t know the numbers)

If China, India, etc. don’t do the same, will it make any difference? If not, what’s the point of measures that could cripple economies to accomplish nothing?

Alloytoo
Reply to  Mr.
June 10, 2021 11:20 pm

It’s homeopathic, less is more. It’s ego puffing socialism for emationally infantile.

H B
June 9, 2021 6:52 pm

This is a gut punch to rural New Zealand .
Where will the electricity come from, the national grid is already stretched marginal is already coal from Huntley power station
the aluminum smelter at bluff so far away most of the electricity will be lost in transit to Auckland
Welcome to forced public transport controlled travel and agenda 2030 the CCP will take over NZ
NZ RIP

Sheepfart
Reply to  H B
June 9, 2021 9:44 pm

It’s the “great” reset.

John Endicott
Reply to  Sheepfart
June 10, 2021 7:15 am

great for whom? China?

mikebartnz
Reply to  H B
June 9, 2021 11:46 pm

Exactly if Tiwai point was closed down and the power sent to Auckland there would be about a fifty percent loss on the way.

Duker
Reply to  mikebartnz
June 10, 2021 2:11 am

Not so. It only has to get to bottom of North Island where 2nd largest city and capital is located, as well that’s mostly an underused DC line which has lower losses.
The rest of North island can gets it electricity from hydro, steam geothermal and wind…yes it’s pretty windy
They are already at 80% renewable , the only reason coal use is up this year is a natural gas plant is undergoing planned maintenance
Your guessimates on power loss are way out too, aside from not getting the DC system right

mikebartnz
Reply to  Duker
June 10, 2021 3:22 am

You say the power only has to get to the bottom of the North Island to Wellington but that is assuming the rest of the North Island can produce enough power to supply its own. If the Cook Straight cables(3 as well as fibre optic) are cut the North Island is in the shit.
You say I am wrong about the power loss but give exactly zero evidence for saying so. If you think the power from the South Island stops at Wellington you are totally deluded.
You have given me nothing that would make me believe you.
Why do you think Huntly is running. I will give you a clue . It is because of Auckland

Duker
Reply to  mikebartnz
June 10, 2021 11:18 am

The answer is yes. Overnight the power runs the other way as the NI has ‘excess’. of course if the links between nort and south are cut – there are 3 – there would be trouble, but thats a reality. Huntly coal power is running because its on call and they have a natural gas pre processing plant closed for maintenance so some GT arent running. They should keep Huntly but wont.

mikebartnz
Reply to  Duker
June 10, 2021 3:18 pm

Could you please tell me where this magical power comes from that they can push it south at night.

Drake
Reply to  Duker
June 10, 2021 4:11 pm

Why would a power plant be “On Call”?

Perhaps because there is unreliable power connected to the grid?

Yep, that must be it. And all coal burned to keep the Huntly plant ready for duty when called upon is wasted.

And the cost to build and install the unreliable power equipment was wasted.
And the cost of maintaining the unreliable power equipment is wasted.
And the cost to extend the grid to connect to the unreliable power equipment was wasted.

But at least you have functional dispatchable “on call” power available when the unreliables fail to meet the needs of your islands, at this point anyway. Given the politics of NZ, that may not the case be for long.

Peter East
Reply to  H B
June 10, 2021 2:58 pm

And, bear in mind we mine little coal now and last year imported coal to fire the Huntly power station!

Al Kour
Reply to  H B
June 10, 2021 10:03 pm

It’s so sad.
I know kiwi-folks well, really good people. How have they managed to elect this Commie witch/bitch?
She is happy to destroy the whole country in the name of her utopian anti-human famtasies but people still support her.

shortie of greenbank
Reply to  Al Kour
June 11, 2021 2:55 am

they have a very and I mean VERY compliant media. At least we have Sky News Australia for an opposing view to the MSM in Oz. It ends up having to try to do the job of opposing NZ MSM at the same time.

Tom Abbott
June 9, 2021 7:02 pm

From the article: “Climate Commission recommends shift to electric cars, large-scale agricultural reform and an end to reliance on gas in homes”

I recommend that the Climate Commission be disbanded.

shortie of greenbank
Reply to  Tom Abbott
June 9, 2021 9:34 pm

will save more CO2 by doing so.

observa
June 9, 2021 7:07 pm

No more gas? Can I suggest Kiwis bring their cows into the lounge rooms and huddle behind them with the Zippo handy?
Wild weather: cold front wreaks havoc on Victoria and brings snow to swathes of NSW (msn.com)
Not too close as you want to be able to claim the carbon credits.

observa
Reply to  observa
June 9, 2021 7:35 pm

A generation of under 40 Gretaheads gets a reminder the Antarctic is still there and coming Kiwi’s way as the Southern Hemisphere weather rolls west to east-
Polar blast sees coldest day in FORTY years (msn.com)

observa
Reply to  observa
June 9, 2021 10:51 pm

PPS: Make that every living Sydneysider by the looks-
Sydney on track to record coldest June day in over 120 years (msn.com)
And that with UHI you dumbclucks. It’s called weather Gretaheads and the aborigines didn’t have pen or paper let alone thermometers.

Pauleta
June 9, 2021 7:08 pm

I agree with the commission, but I also reccommend less commissions, less politicians, less scientists and less people in NZ.

Tom Abbott
June 9, 2021 7:17 pm

From the article: “Ardern says climate crisis is ‘life or death’ as New Zealand landmark report calls for sweeping changes”

President Biden said today in a speech he gave in Europe that the U.S. military told him that Climate Change was the most serious problem the United States faces.

There may have been a general or two who looked at things that way, and the Joint Chiefs ought to fire them, since there is no way they can know that Climate Change is an existential threat to the U.S. or the world. All they are doing is presenting unsubstantiated speculation as facts, just like the Climate Alarmists do. The generals are repeating what they heard, but they couldn’t back their claims up with facts any more than the alarmists can. Were I their superior officer, I wouldn’t let them near the decision-making process.

We don’t need politically correct military generals. They will end up getting a lot of people k!lled.

Biden is looking so weak he may cause some of the world’s murderous dictators to overstep. He looks like Neville Chamberlain. He doesn’t want any confrontation with Putin. He said so before he left for Europe. Biden is operating from weakness.

The Biden weakness may be a result of delusional thought processes, or it may be the result of the Russians having something on Biden and his family that they can use to blackmail Biden into doing their bidding.

The wife of the Mayor of Moscow gave Hunter Biden $3.5 million dollars. I wonder what she bought with that? Maybe she bought Joe’s capitulation. That a pretty cheap price to pay. it looks like the Russians got a bargain.

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Craig from Oz
Reply to  Tom Abbott
June 9, 2021 8:18 pm

Neville Chamberlain was PM on September 3rd 1939, the day the UK declared war on Germany.

PCman999
Reply to  Craig from Oz
June 9, 2021 10:10 pm

That’s Ok, but it doesn’t make up for all the capitulation beforehand. There would never have been WW2 if dear sweet Neville had a hard steel pair of nuts and stood up to Hitler after the Sudatenland takeover. German generals were ready to overthrow Hitler once League of Nations came out with a threat of war over the issue, but instead it gave away part of Czechoslovakia, the big paper wagging in the air that Chamberlain is so pathetically famous for, especially after Hitler then took the rest, and Chamberlain still didn’t do anything.

menace
Reply to  Craig from Oz
June 9, 2021 10:41 pm

Um, okay…

UK (along with France) declared war due to Polish defense/alliance pacts that Chamberlain had pushed for, in hopes of stopping German aggression in the wake of the Czechoslovakian invasion. He had hoped Russia would also sign on, but of course they were secretly plotting with the Germans to divide up Poland.

That pact backfired when Hitler invaded Poland anyway on Sept 1 1939, forcing France and Britain to declare war. The British and French amassed at the French border but there was not much activity for several months, a period referred to as The Phony War.

Then after Hitler quickly conquered Norway in the spring despite British support, Chamberlain was forced to resign May 10 1940 when it was clear the opposition would never accept him as leader of a war coalition government. That same day Germany launched its offensive against France.

The Nazis ousted the British and French forces from the continent at Dunkirk by June 4 and then overran most of France.

Chamberlain’s earlier attempts at appeasement probably did not seem unreasonable to most people at the time. Nobody was in a hurry to get into another Great War and few saw Hitler for the monster he became. And historical hindsight is 20/20 of course. And it might seem fair to fault him in not maintaining and improving the military well enough, but the same could be said for most all the PMs after WWI.

Duker
Reply to  menace
June 10, 2021 2:20 am

Pretty good summary… The initial area Hitler was claiming was Sudetenland , which German speaking not Czech, and under the allies principles at Versailles should have stayed German, but wasn’t. How far Hitler would go in wanting all checkoslkvakia wasn’t clearly recognised at the time , and of course they wanted peace even more.
It’s forgotten now but the Poles took a small piece of Czech Silesia as well , so they weren’t innocent of war mongering

Reply to  menace
June 10, 2021 2:48 am

A very accurate summary of the immediate pre-war situation.

Duker
Reply to  Graham Lyons
June 10, 2021 11:24 am

Its forgotten now who quickly things changed from The Munich agreement which ‘awarded’ german Sudetenland to Germany was only 6 months later when Hitler swallowed most of Czechoslovakia – which meant war became inevitable-and then another 6 months to war over the Poland invasion.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Tom Abbott
June 9, 2021 8:32 pm

The US Navy might be worried that rising sea levels will swamp their ships…

H.R.
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
June 10, 2021 5:13 am

Possibly, Zig Zag.

What I don’t understand is why Congress doesn’t just pass a law forbidding the sea level to rise.

John Endicott
Reply to  H.R.
June 10, 2021 7:24 am

Why should they, didn’t Obama take care of that? “this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal ” – Barack Obama upon winning the Democratic nomination for presidency

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John Endicott
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
June 10, 2021 7:22 am

Joke from the year 2031: Why does the green 2031 US navy fleet have glass bottoms? So they can see the green 2030 US navy fleet.

mrsell
Reply to  Tom Abbott
June 9, 2021 9:27 pm

“President Biden said today in a speech he gave in Europe that the U.S. military told him that Climate Change was the most serious problem the United States faces.”

I bet the U.S. military told him no such thing. This is probably more like what the conversation was like:

“President Biden, the Navy is worried about the range of China’s fleet”

“What? I can’t hear you. What did you say?”

“I said the Navy is worried about China’s range!”

“Huh? I’m not getting you. Say again”

“CHINA’S RANGE! The Navy is concerned about CHINA’S RANGE!”

“Eh? Climate Change?”

“Whatever. Idiot”

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  mrsell
June 10, 2021 6:39 am

The US is led by a guy with sheep muck where his brain should be.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  mrsell
June 11, 2021 4:18 am

It’s even worse than that. I quoted “American generals” as saying climate change was a problem, but Biden’s actual words were: “The Joint Chiefs of Staff said Global Warming was the greatest threat to the United States”.

So Biden is saying the highest generals in the land are signing off on Global Warming being the greatest threat facing the United States.

If that is the case, and I doubt it seriously, then we need new members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. I personally, think Biden is taking liberties with what generals may have said about Global Warming.

Some reporter needs to ask our generals to explain their exact position on CO2.

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TonyG
Reply to  Tom Abbott
June 11, 2021 7:38 am

This week it’s Global Warming. Last week the “greatest threat” was White Supremacy. Probably be something else next week.

Sheepfart
Reply to  Tom Abbott
June 9, 2021 9:50 pm

I like to think of politicians as people from the mirror universe of star trek.

TonyG
Reply to  Sheepfart
June 10, 2021 9:41 am

They’re nowhere near as competent as the mirror people.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Sheepfart
June 11, 2021 4:21 am

I think of Democrat politicians as living in Bizzarro World where everything is backwards. They definitely don’t live in the same world we live in.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Tom Abbott
June 11, 2021 4:24 am

I was surprised to see so many Neville Chamberlain defenders.

You all made good points, but you have to admit that the dictators he was dealing with saw his actions as appeasement and weakness. That’s all a dictator needs to do something rash.

Does anyone doubt the dictators of today see weakness in Biden’s actions? That’s what I see.

Plus Biden is beholden to the dictators of the world with his personal influence peddling and we should expect him to go easy on our enemies as a result to avoid blackmail. If he doesn’t, it would be a surprise.

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TonyG
Reply to  Tom Abbott
June 11, 2021 7:40 am

I think history definitively show that Chamberlain was wrong in his approach. But for some reason many “leaders” seem to want to follow his example instead of Churchill’s.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  TonyG
June 12, 2021 4:54 am

It’s called “kicking the can down the road”. It’s a common human reaction when one doesn’t know what to do about a situation, but dictators take that to mean they can do as they please, so that, doing nothing, is not a good way to reign in dictators. It actually emboldens them.

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David S
June 9, 2021 7:25 pm

Hopefully the New Zealanders will get sick of this in a hurry and throw out the politicians who inflicted it on them.

ross
Reply to  David S
June 9, 2021 8:20 pm

The problem is all our politicians including our opposition parties have bought into the whole UN climate change alarmism. Not one of them has the brains or guts to to oppose this idiocy.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  ross
June 9, 2021 10:37 pm

Clearly, if their brains were dynamite they couldn’t blow their hats off. The PM is a silly credulous cow, exuding exactly what cows exude.

Redge
Reply to  ross
June 9, 2021 11:18 pm

In the UK, if all our 360 odd politicians put their heads together they still wouldn’t have the brainpower of a single amoeba.

Duker
Reply to  Redge
June 10, 2021 2:21 am

650 MPs in house of commons

Redge
Reply to  Duker
June 10, 2021 3:51 am

oops

TonyG
Reply to  Redge
June 10, 2021 9:44 am

I have always maintained that the collective IQ of a group is best determined by taking that group’s average IQ and dividing by the number of people in the group. Thus, 360 politicians would collectively have an IQ of 0.3 (being generous and giving them an average of 100). And 650, per Duker’s number, would have a collective IQ of 0.15

RdM
Reply to  ross
June 10, 2021 4:01 am

Except for ACT, maybe.

But yes, while a little while ago (April 12, 2021) we had:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300275333/national-wont-vote-for-climate-change-commission-proposals-in-current-form

Recently we have:

https://www.interest.co.nz/news/110779/theres-likely-be-some-cross-party-consensus-emissions-budgets-differences-will-arise

Clearly nobody in National has read any skeptical sites, including this one.

And Rod Carr is legally blind, so he likely won’t be reading them either.

And he was influenced by his (already brainwashed?) children to take it on:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/116398685/rod-carr-will-lead-new-climate-change-commission

https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/124292382/national-portrait-rod-carr-climate-tsar

Meanwhile, the sheeple are lapping it up … according to a 1000 people survey!

https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/125401069/were-getting-more-worried-about-climate-change–and-want-government-to-act

Sanity Warning: Stuff is a climate alarmist leftist propaganda outlet.

Peter East
Reply to  RdM
June 10, 2021 3:07 pm

The bit about STUFF being a climate alarmist leftist propaganda outlet – a couple of years ago the conducted an online survey about climate change and stated that any comments denying climate change would not be accepted! I guess the survey provided them with the the expected result!

RMT
Reply to  David S
June 9, 2021 11:23 pm

That is the only True Hope that New Zealanders have.

Reply to  RMT
June 10, 2021 4:33 am

New Zealand, like the rest of the world, is getting colder, just as we published in 2002, and the exact opposite of the ~50 years of failed predictions by global warming fraudsters. The warmist fraudsters have made 48 failed, full expired very-scary global warming predictions to end 2020, all of them wrong. The probability of that being random stupidity by warmist scientists is ~281 trillion to 1.
These warmist fraudsters were not just being exceptionally stupid, they were lying to you from day 1, and they knew it.
 
CLIMATE CHANGE, COVID-19, AND THE GREAT RESET
A CLIMATE, ENERGY AND COVID PRIMER FOR POLITICIANS AND MEDIA
By Allan M.R. MacRae, May 8, 2021 UPDATE 1e
Download the WORD file
https://thsresearch.files.wordpress.com/2021/05/climate-change-covid-19-and-the-great-reset-update-1e-readonly.docx
[excerpt]
This treatise was originally sent to Canadian and American politicians and the media in March 2021. Most of them won’t understand it, because they have no scientific competence and have been utterly duped – programmed for decades by false climate scares and green energy frauds.
This update was written in May 2021 to report even more global cooling as measured by satellites and new harsh cold events, particularly in Europe and North America that have severely harmed early crops. Harsh cold events have struck all countries in the Northern and Southern Hemispheres.

SUMMARY

We published in 2002 that there was NO catastrophic human-made global warming /climate change crisis, and green energy schemes were NOT green and produced little useful (dispatchable) energy. Dangerous global warming and climate change have NOT HAPPENED and green energy schemes have proved to be COSTLY, UNRELIABLE AND INEFFECTIVE.

Global warming is NOT a threat, but global cooling IS dangerous to humanity and the environment. In 2002 we predicted that natural global cooling would start circa 2020, based on low solar activity, and that prediction is strongly supported by recent evidence.
 
Politicians foolishly believed scary global warming falsehoods and brewed the perfect storm, crippling our energy systems with costly and unreliable green energy schemes that utterly fail due to intermittency, at a time when we need more cheap, reliable, dispatchable energy due to increased energy demand and imminent global cooling. The people of Australia, Britain, Germany, California, Texas and elsewhere have all suffered due to GREEN ENERGY FAILURES THAT WERE PREDICTABLE AND WERE PREDICTED.
 
We published in March 2020 that there was no justification for the Covid-19 lockdown, and that it would cause great and needless harm. The Covid-19 lockdown is now estimated to have caused 10-to-100-times the damage of the Covid-19 illness, in terms of increased harm to individuals, families and the economies they depend on.
 
The same leftist groups concocted and promoted the global warming fraud and the Covid-19 lockdown scam, for political and financial gain. Then these groups linked the two frauds, stating “to solve Covid-19 we have to solve Climate Change” – utterly false and foolish, not even plausible enough to be specious. Then these same groups proposed their Final Solution, the “Great Reset”, a Chinese Communist Party style dictatorship, a centrally-controlled economy where we live like poor slaves, lorded over by our wealthy political masters.
 
The tragic reality is that the twin frauds of Climate-and-Covid have been accepted by most politicians. Some have covertly or overtly embraced extreme-left politics, and others are so simple-minded and gullible that they believe any falsehood that is repeated often enough. We are governed by scoundrels and imbeciles.

Addenda:
 
MORE COLD EVENTS recorded by Cap Allon at https://electroverse.net/category/extreme-weather/
 
MOTHER’S DAY WAS A RECORD-BREAKER: RARE COLD AND SNOW BLASTS AMERICA
May 10, 2021
States such as Pennsylvania and New York are reporting inches of mid-spring snow, with record-accumulations on the way for the likes of Colorado and Wyoming.
 
EUROPE’S EXTREME MAY FREEZE IS SET TO CONTINUE
May 10, 2021
Additional rounds of ‘Arctic shock therapy’ threaten to wake the masses from their manufactured ‘global warming’ psychosis:
 
HEAVY MAY SNOWFALL HITS PORTUGAL, WARNINGS ISSUED, AS HUNGARY JUST REGISTERED ITS COLDEST APRIL THIS CENTURY
May 11, 2021
“Christmas scenes in the middle of May,” with additional Arctic blasts inbound. #GrandSolarMinimum
 
THOUSANDS OF REINDEER STARVE TO DEATH ON THE FROZEN YAMAL PENINSULA, RUSSIA
May 11, 2021
Possibly *tens of thousands* perished as months of extreme cold persisted across ALL of transcontinental Russia. Researchers on the ground note an increase in periodic glaciation in the region.
 
ARCTIC SEA ICE EXTENT HIGHEST IN 8 YEARS + LOW SOLAR ACTIVITY AND GLOBAL COOLING
May 11, 2021
While modern civilization writhes in this dark age of self-serving agendas, virtue signalling and dreams of socialism, the reality of our cosmological journey spins on. #GSM
 
NEW ZEALAND SWINGS FROM RECORD HEAT TO RECORD COLD + NEW STUDY SHOWS ANTARCTIC SEA ICE IS GROWING
May 12, 2021
Reject politicized narratives of linear warming. Instead, prepare for the next big freeze. Climate is cyclic, after all. #GSM
 
COLORADO BREAKS MULTIPLE COLD RECORDS + DENVER SUFFERS ITS SECOND-LONGEST SNOWFALL SEASON SINCE RECORDS BEGAN
May 12, 2021 
You’d forgive CO residents for thinking the climate was actually cooling!–But I’m sure they know better than to trust their own eyes and real-world observations — after all, it’s those ‘supercomputer-generated’ climate models that dictate reality, not natural variability, not the Sun… (sarc!).
 
EARLY-SEASON BLIZZARDS HIT AUSTRALIA + A POWERFUL POLAR OUTBREAK IN THE FORECAST
May 13, 2021 
In recent years, Australia’s climate has been changing — for the cooler and wetter. And early-season snows have become far more common. #GrandSolarMinimum
 
HISTORIC COLD SPREADS ACROSS THE U.S. BREAKING LOW TEMPERATURE RECORDS FROM THE 1800S
May 13, 2021 
Plus, Europe looks set for more unprecedented lows and historic late-May snows. Bundle up. Spring 2021 is a no show.
With the official start of summer less than 40 days away, an unseasonably cold air mass is currently gripping large areas of the United States, dropping temperatures some 25 degrees F below seasonal averages.
As reported by CNN weather, these temperatures are more in line with what you should expect in mid-March, not mid-May.
 
U.S. HAS SET 17,450 NEW LOW TEMPERATURE RECORDS THIS YEAR VS 13,886 HIGH + SINABUNG EXPLODES INTO THE STRATOSPHERE
May 17, 2021 
Furthermore, the U.S. ALL TIME records summary reveals that 223 new unprecedented, never-before-observed low temperature benchmarks have been busted this year, versus the solitary 1 for all-time record highs. This disparity between cold records and hot records has only been increasing in the month of May.
Told you so, 19 years ago…  Nailed it.
 
FIVE MAJOR DATASETS SHOW GLOBAL COOLING, AS CARBON BRIEF IS CAUGHT LYING TO THE PUBLIC
May 17, 2021 
Climate Change headlines are built around narratives, not facts. Most sheeple are easily fooled by illogically-linear charts and phony correlations.
The Global Lower Tropospheric Temperature Anomaly has cooled 0.64C in 14 months, from an anomaly of +0.59C in February 2020 to only -0.05C in April 2021.
 
RECORD BREAKING COLD BLASTS AUSTRALIA AND CANADA: “GLOBAL” COOLING 
May 20, 2021 
Arctic air continues to descend unusually-far south, while Antarctic air continues to ride anomalously-far north. The culprit is low solar activity, namely its weakening of the jet streams, and the upshot is COOLING across the lower-latitudes (where us humans reside).
Not since the year 1967 has Sydney experienced a colder streak in May.
In Kamloops and the Okanagan, British Columbia, record-breaking overnight lows for this date were logged.
 
DELHI, INDIA SUFFERS COLDEST MAY DAY IN 70 YEARS + EARTH HAS COOLED 0.8C SINCE 2016
May 20, 2021  
This COOLING trend is expected to accelerate over the coming months and years as the Sun continues its relative shutdown. Prepare for the Grand Solar Minimum.
 
RECORD COLD AND LATE-MAY SNOW SWEEPS THE WESTERN U.S. + COLD EUROPE + MORE MSM OBFUSCATION
May 21, 2021 
Accumulating late-May snow is pummeling the higher elevations of the Western United States — the latest inconvenient real-world observation to pour cold water on the hot mess that is AGW.
The picture is the same in Europe:
 
RARE AND HEAVY LATE-MAY SNOWFALL HITS KASHMIR, INDIA AND KAGHAN, PAKISTAN
May 25, 2021  
While northern Russia’s anomalous warmth is dominating the MSM headlines, the intense cold-blasts and unusually fierce snow-dumps currently ravaging vast portions of the planet are of far greater concern.
Over the weekend, twenty-one runners tackling a mountain ultramarathon in northwest China perished after freezing conditions hit the high-altitude race. Rescuers were only able to save 151 out of a total of 172 participants. 
 
VIOLENT LATE-SPRING SNOWSTORM BLASTS SCOTLAND, BURIES THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS
May 25, 2021 
Scots are suffering a rare late-spring Arctic blast this week as an unusual chill continues to engulf the majority of the European continent.
 
GREENLAND JUST GAINED A RECORD-SMASHING AMOUNT OF SNOW AND ICE
May 26, 2021  
According to climate alarmists, Greenland should have melted into oblivion by now. Yet here we are, posting unprecedented GAINS:
 
NEW ZEALAND SUFFERS ALL-TIME RECORD COLD, AS GREENLAND SNOW & ICE GAINS HEAD OFF THE CHARTS [LITERALLY]
May 27, 2021 
Every key data point now indicates a cooling planet. How long will it be before the likes of the IPCC and their MSM lapdogs report on the facts?
 
MONTHLY LOW TEMPERATURE RECORDS FALL IN VANUATU, AS LATE-SEASON SNOW AND UNPRECEDENTED COLD SWEEP TORONTO, CANADA
May 29, 2021 
Plus: ‘Surprising Arctic Sea Ice Thickness is Good News for Polar Bears.’
 
NEW YORK CITY TIES 1884 RECORD FOR LOWEST-MAXIMUM TEMPERATURE THIS LATE IN THE SEASON
May 31, 2021 
Well below-average and record-breaking temperatures continue to grip swathes of the United States this Memorial Day weekend.

INTENSE COLD GRIPS SE AUSTRALIA, TOPPLES MULTIPLE MONTHLY COLD RECORDS + POWERFUL ANTARCTIC BLAST TO HIT NEXT WEEK
May 31, 2021 
The COLD TIMES are returning, the mid-latitudes are REFREEZING, in line with the great conjunction, historically low solar activity, cloud-nucleating Cosmic Rays, and a meridional jet stream flow (among other forcings). Prepare.

EXCEPTIONAL SNOWFALL –THE BIGGEST IN OVER TWO DECADES– PUMMELS PATAGONIA
June 1, 2021 
Plus: Adelaide, Australia shivers through Coldest May Morning in almost 100 Years.

702 TEXANS DIED IN FEBRUARY’S RECORD-BREAKING FREEZE, FAR HIGHER THAN THE STATE’S OFFICIAL DEATH TOLL OF 151
June 1, 2021 
PLUS: STUDY FINDS COLD-WEATHER ACCOUNTS FOR 94% OF TEMPERATURE-RELATED DEATHS.
A 2020 study by researchers at the University of Illinois at Chicago reveals that it is the COLD which should concern us, not the heat.

RARE “LEVEL 5” SNOWFALL WARNING ISSUED IN SOUTH AFRICA: “THIS COULD BE LIFE-THREATENING”
June 2, 2021 
SAWS: “Danger to life and property due to hypothermia and the collapsing of infrastructure, widespread loss of livestock and crops [are expected].”

DELHI, INDIA SUFFERS ITS COLDEST JUNE TEMPERATURE EVER RECORDED
June 2, 2021 
India has been breaking low temperature records left, right and center this year; in fact, since August, 2020 Delhi has busted at least one major weather record each and every month.

COLDEST “SUMMER” WEEKEND ON RECORD IN ATLANTIC CITY
June 2, 2021  
A host of records have been toppled, in books dating back to 1874. Trends change (sorry IPCC). Welcome to the next cooling epoch.

16.4 FEET (5 METERS) OF EARLY-SEASON SNOW BURIES MT HUTT, NEW ZEALAND
June 3, 2021 
“There’s a huge amount of ice growing out from any metal structure … That ice is up to half a metre thick, may be more, in some places.”

DOUBLE-THE-AVERAGE AVALANCHE DEATHS IN EUROPE BLAMED ON “ABUNDANT SNOW”
June 3, 2021 
Jarring with the MSM narrative, exceptional snowfall has been the crucial factor in this season’s high avalanche death toll — across both Europe AND the United States. #GSM

EARLY-SEASON COLD BLASTS SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA + FAILED WINTER PREDICTIONS
June 4, 2021 
Sydney’s recent chill is a mere taster to the powerful Antarctic blast currently winding up, due to hit the majority of the Aussie continent by June 9.

HISTORIC FROSTS AND FREEZES IMPACT FARMERS ACROSS THE NORTHERN HEMISPHERE: UK VEGETABLES SUPPLIES “DESPERATELY LOW,” USDA CROP-RATING SYSTEM LABELLED “A JOKE”
June 5, 2021 
“Crops look horrible around here, what’s up isn’t that great, stand problems, yellow from the cold, stunted, lots of acres not up yet, and some replanting being done, what a joke!”

HEAVY SNOWFALL ON COURSE FOR NSW, AS AUSTRALIA’S LATEST ANTARCTIC BLAST TO STRETCH AS FAR NORTH AS SUB-TROPICAL QUEENSLAND
June 7, 2021
Wrap up Australia. This, in my book, will go down as your first Grand Solar Minimum winter (of the modern cooling epoch). Prepare for exceptional lows and snows.

HUNGARY SUFFERS COLDEST SPRING SINCE 1987 (SOLAR MINIMUM OF CYCLE 21), AS JUNE’S MONTHLY SNOWPACK RECORD FALLS IN SLOVENIA
June 7, 2021
Europe experienced a bone-chiller of a spring. To call it a “spring” actually does a disservice to the severity and prolonged nature of the cold — I like to think of March-through-May this year as an “extension of winter.”

POLAR COLD GRIPS SOUTH AFRICA, “LOAD SHEDDING” LIKELY AS THE NATION’S POWER GRID STRUGGLES TO COPE WITH HEATING DEMAND
June 7, 2021
Unprecedented “stage 8” load shedding could be on the cards in the near future, as an aging infrastructure plus low solar activity-induced cooling threatens a disastrous combo in 2021.

CANADA CHILLS: VICTORIA SEES COLDEST JUNE 6 SINCE RECORDS BEGAN IN 1899, AS RARE JUNE SNOW SETTLES IN B.C. AND AB.
June 8, 2021
The majority of Canada is suffering an unusual June chill this week, as the Arctic rides anomalously-far south on the back of an unpredictable ‘meridional’ jet stream flow.

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
June 11, 2021 1:52 am

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ARCTIC TROUGH TO DESCEND INTO EUROPE, BRINGING HEAVY SUMMER SNOW TO SCANDINAVIA AND ICELAND
June 10, 2021
2021 has already been the year without a spring in Europe — and now, the official start of summer also looks under threat, too. #GrandSolarMinimum

SYDNEY SHIVERS THROUGH COLDEST DAY IN 37 YEARS, AS NSW SEES COLDEST JUNE DAY IN 122 YEARS
June 11, 2021
Record-breaking accumulations of SNOW have also been reported, as a pool of Antarctic air delivers eastern Australia its coldest conditions in decades.

mikebartnz
Reply to  David S
June 9, 2021 11:58 pm

I was hoping that would happen with the last election but because of Christchurch and the pandemic old horse face retained her position. Her degree is in communication and women fall for it. So if no disaster happens in the next few years she will be toast. Hopefully.

Duker
Reply to  mikebartnz
June 10, 2021 2:25 am

The previous government signed up to the Paris Accords in 2016, thus making the targets law , fully expecting to pay around $1.5 bill per year in carbon costs.
The reality is it’s here to stay ever since the conservative national party and it’s PM Shipley signed onto Kyoto.

gwan
Reply to  David S
June 10, 2021 12:17 am

Reply to David S.
At some stage New Zealanders will wake up but it might be to late and our economy will be wrecked .There is a real divide between the populations of the major cities and the country areas .This government is incompetent and driven by ideology and they have no idea how the food even gets onto the supermarket shelves .
They are spending money like there is no tomorrow yet St Jacinda was on TV this morning saying there is no money to pay nurses any more .The nurses are striking through out the country for better pay .This government have run a very large deficit to fund Covid response and are paying them selves very well as politicians .
Our tourist sector is having a very hard time but farming and forestry exports are keeping the country going.
I have told this government when they sent select committees around the country before they issued this climate wish list that methane from farmed livestock is a non problem .
All enteric methane is a cycle as all fodder consumed by farmed animals has absorbed CO2 and the tiny methane emissions break down in 8 to 10 years in the upper atmosphere into CO2 and water vapour . Not one additional atom or molecule of C02 or CH4 is added to the atmosphere over any time span.
From 1999 untill 2008 methane atmospheric levels flat lined so what was the problem ?
Over that time period world coal extraction was steady around 4.7 billion tonnes but from 2009 coal mining and use ratcheted up and 8.2 billion tonnes was mined in 2018 which corresponded with a rapid rise in methane levels but still a very small amount under 2 pp million .
No one in this government wants to know these facts.They want to restrict our farming which has the lowest carbon footprint in the world for our milk and meat products exported to the other side of the world .
This government is happy that Asia burns as much coal as they want but they are going to restrict exports of food to those same countries .
Farming to feed the world ,
Graham

Lrp
Reply to  gwan
June 10, 2021 3:11 am

This is sad. Socialists are a plague

Reply to  gwan
June 10, 2021 5:53 am

Quite right Gwan and the Select Committee took just as much notice of your submission as they did of mine!

gwan
Reply to  Alastair Brickell
June 10, 2021 7:32 pm

Hello Alistair,
Of course the select committee process was an exercise in futility a bit like a mock trial ,they were always going to go down this road and even the most convincing scientific based argument was never going to change their minds.
Greenpeace have chimed in with a statement that New Zealand has the highest per capita methane emissions in the world .
I would point out that New Zealand exports 4 to 5 times as much meat and milk than what is consumed here .Why are those so called emissions not counted in the countries were the food is eaten .
The same applies to our forestry exports which are grown on a rotation of 27 to 30 year Over 70% of these forests are exported as logs or sawn timber and are classed as our emissions .
This makes no sense to me as these trees have absorbed CO2 over their life time and a great deal of the timber will still be around when the next rotation is harvested so they are a carbon sink .Why not ?
Can any of you tell us why timber meat and milk products grown for export are designated emissions in their country of origin BUT coal and oil and gas are emissions in the country where they are used ,not in the country of origin.
When we dig into this climate change we soon find out that the inmates are running the Asylum .

Graham

Rob Thomson
Reply to  David S
June 10, 2021 12:47 am

Load our politicians into the electric planes that our climate commission is proposing.

DMacKenzie,
Reply to  David S
June 10, 2021 9:33 am

Western Democracies tend to be elected based on virtue-signalling vote smuckering stories, and voted out 8 or 10 years later because voters are tired of their empty promises. It isn’t a great recipe for pragmatic governance.

shortie of greenbank
June 9, 2021 7:25 pm

rather than a picture of comrade in chief of kiwistan how about a horses backside to represent that pile of lying excrement.

Herbert
June 9, 2021 7:27 pm

In New Zealand there are currently some 26.15 million sheep and some 4 million beef cattle.
To reduce ( i.e.cull or kill them) these numbers by 15% we are talking mass slaughter.
By way of example sheep numbers declined from 26.8 million to 26.1 million as a result of a drought last year.
There was consultation with agricultural groups in recent years but to get a truthful answer to their responses will require a FOI request and a long wait,I suspect.

Redge
Reply to  Herbert
June 9, 2021 11:19 pm

I wonder how the kiwis will export their lamb to the UK once they’ve banned fossil fuels

Rob Thomson
Reply to  Redge
June 10, 2021 12:49 am

Electric ships too.

RdM
Reply to  Rob Thomson
June 10, 2021 3:02 am

Sailing ships of course, as in February 1882
https://nzhistory.govt.nz/first-shipment-of-frozen-meat-leaves-nz

RdM
Reply to  Rob Thomson
June 10, 2021 3:05 am

Or perhaps an imagined “biopunk” future?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Windup_Girl

mikebartnz
Reply to  Herbert
June 10, 2021 12:10 am

And the sheep numbers have declined from about eighty odd million in 1984 to the 26.1 you state for now.
If you sell sheep at a sale now and they are unshorn straight away you loose ten dollars.
Sadly it is oil that has created this predicament for wool. Give me a merino/possum fur jersey any day over some synthetic job. It can get wet but you will still stay relatively warm.

Duker
Reply to  Herbert
June 10, 2021 2:29 am

No. The cattle and sheep don’t have long lives and are killed for meat anyway. Of course it’s a silly idea but it will be incremental decline. The breeding of new stock is completely understand control of farmers and this still would have happened with the conservative national party as they signed the country up to Paris climate targets ….to think otherwise is ignoring what Paris requires

meab
Reply to  Duker
June 10, 2021 9:21 am

Paris itself doesn’t require anything – all commitments are purely voluntary. Some countries, like China, have committed to increase emissions, some countries, like Pakistan, have made non-specific promises with unspecified timelines. If NZ commits to any specific reductions, it’s all on the NZ government.

Duker
Reply to  meab
June 10, 2021 11:30 am

The commitments in NZ are binding from the ‘Net Zero’ Law passed since which was voted unanimously by the opposition party as well. Their quibbles are the taxpayers continue to pay for farmers emissions- bizarrely from renewable grass. Its crazy but thats what it is

markl
June 9, 2021 7:28 pm

NZ is the crash test dummy for Agenda 21.

tomo
June 9, 2021 7:49 pm

Ardern is creepy in a way can only be compared to one Nancy Pelosi.

sendergreen
June 9, 2021 7:50 pm

The scariest thought to me from this governance is the end phrase “…so they can survive New Zealand’s brutal winters without fossil fuel heating.” I’ve believed for decades we would in my lifetime see the start of a sudden new cold era. These extremists will not only deactivate, but demolish all the infrastructure of fossil fuel discovery, recovery, refinery, and delivery. So that not if, but when the real deep cold climate change occurs, (and the temperatures plummet fast) there will be no ability to restart the fossil fuel system to avoid mass mortality from exposure including “in home”. (as happened to 40+ people in Texas in January 2021 (at the same latitude as … Bermuda).

Mr.
Reply to  Eric Worrall
June 9, 2021 9:16 pm

You’re lucky Eric, you can just go to the local stream and hook out a few mangrove jack or finger mark perch.
I would happily live on a diet of these for the rest of my days.

sendergreen
Reply to  Eric Worrall
June 10, 2021 12:01 pm

Eric, this new study and attached map from it might interest you.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/02/210222192830.htm
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The new study claims that more southern areas of the US were in permafrost in the Late Glacial Maximum than previously thought. The .jpg file is a map of the US from the study that the study claims was in permafrost during the LGM.

I was interested in how close the LGM permafrost areas “dip” into Texas resembled the areas of Texas plunged into deep cold in the January 2021 disaster that killed 40+ people.

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Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  sendergreen
June 9, 2021 8:35 pm

Well I’ll be gobsmacked. I always assumed that Bermuda was in the tropics.

John Endicott
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
June 10, 2021 7:32 am

While it’s climate is typically tropical, it’s actually slightly north of the latitude that defines the tropics.

sendergreen
Reply to  John Endicott
June 10, 2021 8:14 pm

The warm currents make it more “vacationable” than the latitude would suggest.

Sheepfart
Reply to  sendergreen
June 9, 2021 9:52 pm

It almost sounds like they just want people to die off.

Notanacademic
Reply to  Sheepfart
June 10, 2021 11:13 am

Terrifyingly I think you’ve hit the nail on the head.

RMT
Reply to  sendergreen
June 9, 2021 11:24 pm

Think of what you said in the light of the fact that the environmentalists believe earth’s ideal population is 1 billion. How do you get rid of the other 6-7 billion people. You might have stumbled upon it.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  sendergreen
June 10, 2021 12:41 am

I lived in NZ for 10 years, in Wellington. I can tell you, as a former resident of the UK, it gets really REALLY cold in Wellington, let alone further south when the southerly winds blow.

Duker
Reply to  Patrick MJD
June 10, 2021 2:35 am

Don’t be silly , it’s milder than most of UK and winter is 3 months mostly, Snow in Wellington is only for short periods every few years.

mikebartnz
Reply to  Duker
June 10, 2021 4:43 am

I had a Canadian girl from just north of Toronto, where it freezes 3 to 6 feet under the ground, come out here in November and she frequently felt the cold whereas I was happy in a tshirt. I put it down to the amount of moisture in the air and the wind.
The big differences between a UK winter and ours is that some days here the temperature can hit 18c on a nice day whereas in the UK it is perpeturely gloomy.

sendergreen
Reply to  mikebartnz
June 10, 2021 12:41 pm

Mike, I’m a three hour drive west of Toronto, a ten minute run to the river that forms the Canada / US Border. The region’s temperature is strongly moderated by the “Great Lakes” which are giant thermal batteries that make our summers, and winters milder than they would be otherwise. North of them in Ontario you do get deep cold winters. Toronto is right on the shore of Lake Ontario, the lowest of the Great Lakes, so she might not have been all that “deep cold” familiar. I spent some time in the 1980’s in a town in Cheshire. The people thought I was lying when I said I was two kilometers from both a river a mile wide, and the beach of a lake that was 300km away from opposite shore. Their town “river” was ten yards wide, and walkable from stone to stone. It’s all relative.

mikebartnz
Reply to  sendergreen
June 10, 2021 11:58 pm

I remember being there in late summer ,very early autumn/fall and the humidity that was coming up from the gulf was not nice, to put it mildly.

HAS
Reply to  sendergreen
June 10, 2021 12:59 am

I should just note that the climate in NZ is temperate, we live in relatively uninsulated houses, and with climate change things are looking to get warmer 🙂

sendergreen
Reply to  HAS
June 10, 2021 12:20 pm

You are told “climate change” means only warmer/hotter. Look at a temperature graph zoomed way back. From now backward to the last 600Ky-1MY. What you will see at that perspective is a series of 120-150 glacial eras interrupted by brief interglacial warm periods of about 10KY. We are already about 2-3K years past the average time interglacial warm periods end. When they end, the descent into deep glacial cold is now thought to be more a plunge. A century at most, perhaps a fast as decades. The breadbaskets of Canada, Ukraine, Russia, China quickly totally unproductive in years. What does that … has to be many magnitudes more powerful than weak limited thermal forcing of CO2.

sendergreen
Reply to  sendergreen
June 10, 2021 1:34 pm

Errata… I ,meant “120-150KY glacial eras. By the time I saw the omission, the timer on edits had passed.

Duker
Reply to  sendergreen
June 10, 2021 2:33 am

The fountrys electricity supply is already 80% or so renewable, hydro and geothermal being the bulk , which luckily provide grid stability for the wind generation. So no south Australia blackouts. The location of long narrow country in a windy part of the world also means the output of wind turbines is greater % of Max capacity than most other countries that use them.

sendergreen
Reply to  Duker
June 10, 2021 8:33 pm

I must admit that I’ve been negligently myopic. Researching into the Northern Hemisphere’s experience with Glaciations, but knowing near zero about the effects in the Southern, outside a wee bit around Chile. I’m going to change that. What clicked that light on was your reference to “Hydro”. (which in my Canadian Province of Ontario is still the common name for home delivered electric power… Niagara Falls, and all.) My brain went from water moving from high elevation to low …to water in a new ice age … frozen, but moving ever so slow. I started thinking what was happening in Australia, and New Zealand 40 KYA ?

Reply to  sendergreen
June 10, 2021 4:45 am

You are correct sendergreen – see my post here:

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/06/09/new-zealand-climate-commission-report-recommends-fewer-cars-more-electric-fewer-cows/#comment-3266294
 
New Zealand, like the rest of the world, is getting colder, just as we published in 2002, and the exact opposite of the ~50 years of failed predictions by global warming fraudsters. 

Craig from Oz
June 9, 2021 8:28 pm

Ardern is pro-green and very friendly with China.

They live in an isolated bubble that can’t even defend their own airspace declaring themselves pacifists, warm in the knowledge that push comes to shove and a major threat comes from the north/northwest then the NZ Government will bravely defend the country to the Last Australian.

Their exports are Hobbits and All Blacks. Hobbits are only an industry because the exchange rate is favourable to other nations and the All Blacks don’t play the entire year.

Ardern’s publicly stated last year that the fix for her country’s employment problem was to use NZ labour to rebuild post China Virus Australia.

Honestly, if it wasn’t for the still terrifying All Black and the warm nostalgia of the ANZAC Spirit we would throw rocks at them.

shortie of greenbank
Reply to  Craig from Oz
June 9, 2021 9:00 pm

I believe the 1999 Defense White Paper stated that Australia’s weakest link was NZ and a small military force would easily take over the place, also that terrorists could easily enter NZ and by proxy get to Australia as NZ does such a terrible job in these areas by being the parasites they are (in a geo-political sense).

Now that they and Victorian governments are part of the CCP it looks like we need to ‘treat some white ants’ or red ones as the case might be.

Mr.
Reply to  shortie of greenbank
June 9, 2021 9:20 pm

Didn’t some NZ veterans want ex-PM Helen Clark charged with treason for her dismantling of NZ’s defense resources?

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Mr.
June 10, 2021 12:37 am

Yes. She is now with the UN. Destroyed NZ during her term as PM, determined people who earned NZ$60,000+ were “rich” and raised income tax rates, she also made NZers who move to Australia temporary residents in Aus. She was once Heath Minister in the 80’s and systematically destroyed one of the best health care systems in the world.

Duker
Reply to  Patrick MJD
June 10, 2021 2:37 am

The level at $60k was still less than those in Australia….now that’s a country with some high tax rates

Duker
Reply to  Duker
June 10, 2021 2:48 am

Tax rates are less than Australia eg $70-$180k is 33% compared yo Australia 37%

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Duker
June 10, 2021 9:16 pm

You forget the ACC levy of 1.5% (We have MediCare levy at the same rate) and the GST, on everything apart from female sanitary products, at 15% (We have GST at 10% but it is not applied to everything). Now do your sums with that additional information.

So if you are paying 33% income tax, add 1.5% ACC and 15% GST to get the effective tax rate.

RdM
Reply to  Patrick MJD
June 10, 2021 5:15 am

She left the UN some time ago, became a patron of ASH the tobacco control zealot cabal, while simultaneously promoting cannabis law reform, and protesting a sports stadium near her home being opened up to concerts. The concerts won. The cannabis law reform didn’t.

She’s always hated tobacco, however irrationally, and in my view the anti-tobacco scam is even older than the climate scam.

An old socialist, she’s still at it. But back at home in NZ.

Streetcred
Reply to  Craig from Oz
June 9, 2021 9:31 pm

Rocks ? Nah p on them.

farmerbraun
Reply to  Streetcred
June 9, 2021 10:13 pm

Quite enough P here already thanks all the same.

Rob Thomson
Reply to  Streetcred
June 10, 2021 12:55 am

We will fight back with our electric powered army.

mikebartnz
Reply to  Craig from Oz
June 10, 2021 12:19 am

While I agreee with a lot of what you said you Aussies still live with a ball and chain around your ankles.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Craig from Oz
June 10, 2021 12:39 am

Believe it or not, due to the tectonic placement of NZ, there was talk about moving the NZ Govn’t to…Melbourne.

mikebartnz
Reply to  Patrick MJD
June 10, 2021 4:47 am

It keeps popping up and as quickly dies.

Chris Nisbet
June 9, 2021 8:31 pm

I just found this in the report…
“Human activities are releasing carbon dioxide into the atmosphere more than 100 times faster than from natural processes”
Is that correct? That sounds like quite a lot.
Good God, it’s hard reading. I wonder if that was intentional.

Scissor
Reply to  Chris Nisbet
June 9, 2021 8:44 pm

That’s not correct. Annually, CO2 levels swing by a several ppm, i.e. over months, whereas CO2 emissions from humans have contributed to a 140 ppm rise over a century.

farmerbraun
Reply to  Scissor
June 9, 2021 10:14 pm

What contributed the rest , the larger part?

Chaswarnertoo
Reply to  farmerbraun
June 9, 2021 11:58 pm

Natural ocean out gassing as the world recovers from the LIA.

shortie of greenbank
Reply to  Chris Nisbet
June 9, 2021 9:01 pm

I find it hard to see how 3% is 100 times larger than 97%, the logic boggles the mind.

Streetcred
Reply to  shortie of greenbank
June 9, 2021 9:33 pm

Kiwi logic.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Streetcred
June 10, 2021 12:33 am

They use Canadian rounding in NZ.

Ryan
Reply to  Chris Nisbet
June 10, 2021 5:50 am

Are they saying humans aren’t natural?

Patrick MJD
June 9, 2021 8:52 pm

Modern Monetary Theory is, at its fundamental level, the raiding of personal savings and pensions by Govn’t and banks. Simple as that.

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mrsell
June 9, 2021 9:11 pm

“For example the government could radically increase the supply of workers”

How is that accomplished? Cloning? No limits on immigration? Ten-child policy?

Streetcred
Reply to  mrsell
June 9, 2021 9:34 pm

No limits immigration and 10-child policy are already a feature 😉

John Endicott
Reply to  Streetcred
June 10, 2021 7:36 am

The direct policy would be no limits on immigration. Indirectly, the 10-child policy is a feature of the immigrants

PeterD
June 9, 2021 9:11 pm

Cars reserved for the rich. Meat is traditionally reserved for the well off. With few flights, seats will be more expensive. The hoi poli can walk and eat vegetables. The Elite will not suffer.

Streetcred
Reply to  PeterD
June 9, 2021 9:39 pm

Goodbye tourism … 23.9% of exports down the drain.

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Duker
Reply to  Streetcred
June 10, 2021 2:41 am

Not the case, over inflated numbers for tourists , excluding friends and family and business travel it’s less than 5% of economy and like Australia may be close to a ‘tourism exporter’ when you count it’s citizens travel so much.

John Endicott
Reply to  Duker
June 10, 2021 7:40 am

You’re talking out both sides of your mouth there. If tourism is less than 5% of economy (the rest of travel being friends, family and businees) then Autralians citizens travelling so much would also have to be chalked up mostly to “friends, family and bussinees”. You can’t have it both ways.

Duker
Reply to  John Endicott
June 10, 2021 11:39 am

Im not having it both ways . The tourism ‘industry’ has claimed all accommodation and hospitality like bars, cafes , restaurants. When most visits for those are locals. So the numbers you mention are just fantasy
I just broke the numbers down to ‘international’ genuine tourists. Business people arent seeing the sights and friends and family are doing mostly that.
The NZ economy has bounced back with little effect from the loss of foreign tourists , a few locations etc effected more than most.
Which proves my point

gwan
Reply to  Duker
June 10, 2021 2:50 pm

I don’t know where you are coming from or even were you are from Duker.
New Zealands tourism and hospitality sector is hurting and struggling to keep operating with out overseas visitors .
The tourism sector was worth 8 billion NZ $ before covid
The figures don”t lie unlike some of the comments on this site with red figures below their comments .

Patrick MJD
Reply to  PeterD
June 10, 2021 12:51 am

There are massive road upgrade projects active in NZ. From what I have seen it will make the drive from say Wellington to Auckland SO much easier and quicker. Driving SH1 when I drove there was a nightmare.

So I wonder who these new roads are for?

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mikebartnz
Reply to  Patrick MJD
June 10, 2021 4:53 am

You should of travelled the Napier Taihape (Gentle Annie) road fifty odd years ago and then you would know what a nightmare was or the White Rock road today.

Reply to  Patrick MJD
June 10, 2021 6:00 am

Jacinda has put a stop to many useful and very necessary roading projects. She just announced this week a new harbour bridge crossing for Auckland at a cost of $685 million, not including the land. However, the new bridge is only for cyclists and pedestrians! Absolutely nuts!

Davidf
Reply to  Alastair Brickell
June 10, 2021 4:22 pm

Quite so. The only good thing about that, is that like every other project this Government has undertaken, it will never happen. They have little ability to execute anything at all. Except taxes, levies and social engineering projects.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Alastair Brickell
June 10, 2021 9:19 pm

Well, why am I not surprised about that.

mrsell
June 9, 2021 9:15 pm

“They include wide-scale agricultural reform to reduce methane emissions, dropping herd sizes by 10%-15%”

Sooo….. increasing imports of meat products by 10-15%. Gotcha. That’ll reduce emissions. Not.

shortie of greenbank
Reply to  mrsell
June 9, 2021 9:39 pm

Well if Australia sets itself up even further into beef and lamb exports we will be well situated to takeover from NZ, we could even increase imports of said goods and congratulate them on reaching zero emissions. We just need to get rid of our own green commies first.

RockyJ
June 9, 2021 9:38 pm

Even worse is the NZ government plan to split sovereignty 50/50 between the indigenous population (16%) and the rest. This would be accompanied by dividing government agency delivery and territory along racial lines. It is an appalling plan many of us kiwis are alarmed by. Saint Jacinda Ardern is a dangerous socialist implementing the UN agenda. Help!

Lrp
Reply to  RockyJ
June 10, 2021 3:30 am

It’s going to be hard with the young and woke wanting to become a socialist society.

Davidf
Reply to  RockyJ
June 10, 2021 4:30 pm

Its actually worse than that. If you look at what previous Treaty settlements have accomplished, the results are a few extremely prosperous Maori corporations, run by a very small tribal elite. We are a nation that a few decades ago prided itself on being egalitarian and classless (probably in error, but thats another issue), but ever since has been setting up an aristocracy based on racial origin, and with inbuilt class distinctions to boot.

shortie of greenbank
Reply to  RockyJ
June 11, 2021 3:11 am

racism is one of the hallmarks of commies these days, but then again when has it not been such?

farmerbraun
June 9, 2021 10:05 pm

Eric, please! I am not alone in having a phobic reaction to pictures of the P.O.S. with which you have adorned this post. Enough is enough.
Our collective energy would be better spent ensuring that this person is consigned to the history books as quickly as possible , as another failed attempt at a “communist ” paradise.

Duker
Reply to  Eric Worrall
June 10, 2021 2:44 am

Tell them the opposition party signed the country up to Paris Treaty making the reductions compulsory….or the taxpayers pay offshore entities to buy those paper carbon credits

RoHa
June 9, 2021 10:07 pm

What about electric cows? Are they OK?

gringojay
Reply to  RoHa
June 9, 2021 10:45 pm

How would this be possible with electric cows?

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RMT
June 9, 2021 11:20 pm

If NZ wants to be the guinea pig, then let them do it. Hopefully we will get the true consequences of their decision, not the leftist narrative utopian version, and hopefully Americans will see that those who aren’t wealthy will suffer – less money, less freedom, more government control.

Stephen Skinner
June 9, 2021 11:31 pm

Unfortunately it seems likely we will have to go over this self inflicted and self righteous cliff as reason no longer has any value in the general population. There is an article here (https://www.aier.org/article/lockdown-kitsch/) that argues the mass of people are experiencing something profoundly communal. Perhaps better to read the article rather than my interpretation and here are two extracts:

“If the Covid experience is indeed an aesthetic experience, the impotence of our counter arguments, our practical concerns and our personal pains is certainly explained very well. Those we wish to convince to change their minds are not using their minds; those we wish to share our concerns do not have concerns; those we wish to feel our distress cannot see us or our distress: they are caught up in a kind of satisfaction – occasioned by the concerted responses of governments and populations to an invisible global attack – that is comprised of a heady sense of profound community, of fellow feeling on a universal scale. We cannot touch this experience with our facts and our projects and our pains. At the very most, we can only threaten to puncture its ecstasy; insofar as we do that, we are batted away as an inconvenient distraction.”

“An immoral distraction too – which is why the batting away can get so ugly. An aesthetic experience, Kant advised, is not in itself a moral experience. Appeals to moral content and respect for the moral law detract from the disinterest necessary for the aesthetic mode. A fourth neighbour, with concerns about the morality of sipping wine under a midsummer’s sky while nearby children suffer from neglect has made a category error too. But not because morality is irrelevant to aesthetic experience, but because particular moral content is irrelevant to it. In fact, an aesthetic experience, because it is premised upon the setting aside of conceptual analysis, worldly projects and personal preferences, is excellent preparation for the moral and a good sign of a moral disposition; it only excludes particular moral issues. This explains the most curious feature of the Covid consensus: its combination of intense righteousness and ethical indifference; its simultaneous heady capture of the moral high ground and calm disregard for moral fallout all around.”

Matthew Sykes
June 9, 2021 11:57 pm

Beef = cow + field. Veg = field + fertiisers + tractor +plough + diesel + harvesting machinery + factory to make tractor, plough, machinery + iron ore smelting + steel industry + mining + oil extraction and refining.

The difference is staggering.

Barry Sheridan
June 10, 2021 12:28 am

I think NZ could achieve these goals, the reason being that most of the population will leave.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Barry Sheridan
June 10, 2021 12:47 am

At least 500,000+ NZers currently live in Australia. Some 40,000 per year IIRC, leave NZ for Aus not realising they are, since 2001, temporary residents on a 444 visa.

Duker
Reply to  Patrick MJD
June 10, 2021 2:53 am

Australia signed up to Paris Treaty as well, so it’s coming there, like it or not, and they don’t have electricity grid at almost 80% renewable like in NZ . Your ‘adjustments’ are going to be harder…..wake up and smell the coffee

John Endicott
Reply to  Duker
June 10, 2021 7:43 am

There’s no enforcement mechanism to the Paris “treaty”. It’ll only come to Australia if the Oz citizens continue to elect politicians that bring it.

Duker
Reply to  John Endicott
June 10, 2021 11:44 am

Australia’s INDC states that Australia will ‘implement an economy-wide target to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 26 to 28 per cent below 2005 levels by 2030’
Thats nice that its flexible by 2%. But if you think its going to go away with some shrugs, dont say you werent warned.

Lrp
Reply to  Duker
June 10, 2021 11:32 am

There will be no adjustments. The public will not elect Marxist eco nuts like in NZ.

Lrp
Reply to  Patrick MJD
June 10, 2021 3:32 am

They are welcome, we want them

Patrick MJD
June 10, 2021 12:44 am

NZers voted for her, twice, and so much so the second time, she could for a majority Govn’t on her own without any other support. So, NZers (I am one too but don’t live there anymore so can’t vote) got what they voted for. Live with it!

TomR
June 10, 2021 1:22 am

Eating fewer cows means killing more animals for food. Plant food requires killing lots of animals (frogs, field mice, birds, boars etc.) to protect plant crops. Many die by chemical warfare, spraying of chemical agents, while grass that feeds cows doesn’t require any contamination, it is resilient by itself.
eg.
https://www.carnivoreisvegan.com/carnivore-diet-is-vegan/
https://www.youtube.com/user/reagentreview

Ed Zuiderwijk
June 10, 2021 1:23 am

How to abolish your country in a handy little manual.

Peta of Newark
June 10, 2021 2:18 am

My anecdote from the UK..
Quote:”….ould need to increase electric vehicle share of the market to 50% in the next 10 years. It is now around 1-2%.”

Just out of curiosity on my eBay ‘watch list’ is a Lithium battery (pack), nominally intended for storing solar PV = 48Volt and 2.4kWh capacity battery. How many to power a car?
Had been on sale for £797 and occasionally on offer at £717

To buy it (the last one seemingly) now will set you back £997.48 – at supposedly “Trade Price”

Just like the windmills innit, getting ever so cheaper cheaper cheaper they’ll be giving ’em away soon

Earthwell
June 10, 2021 2:34 am

I agreee with the call of Fewer Cars and More Electric. There is no denying that car emission shares a bigger part in green gas. Some cars like bentley bentayga really need to improve their fuel economy. But I puzzle over “fewer cows”. The explanation of it is not convincing, at least for me.

sendergreen
Reply to  Earthwell
June 10, 2021 6:55 pm

CO2 is good. Plant food. There been an uptick in the greening of Earth, even of the Sahara. That’s CO2 ! During the last glaciation the CO2 level fell to around 180ppm. Just 30 ppm above the Total Death Zone for all plant life on earth (at 150ppm). The foundation of the food chain of all life on earth. The industrial revolutions fuel sources of coal, and petroleum were for plants like an oxygen mask placed on the face of a blue faced emergency patient. I think a man managed rise in CO2 levels to the 1000-1200 ppm level would be a perfect target range. We do need to focus harder on the toxic byproducts of current production, and consumer waste. But, CO2 is a “Life Gas” … falsely accused.

Prjindigo
June 10, 2021 4:01 am

grass fed cows release less carbon than they consume

Ghandi
June 10, 2021 4:17 am

We seem to be seeing a pattern here. Gasoline-powered cars – bad. Beef cattle – bad. I don’t like to suspect my own US government of being computer hackers, but the recent ransomware attacks on the Colonial Pipeline and then another on the country’s largest beef producer look to me like an INSIDE job by covert US. government operatives. With the current administration, nothing would surprise me.

bonbon
June 10, 2021 4:57 am

Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep – an old S.F. book…
I seriously wonder are we dealing with programmed ‘bots, or more likely ‘substances’ like Soma.

bonbon
June 10, 2021 5:16 am

Even a cursory glance at the MMT wiki shows is is based on Abba Lerner’s functional finance. All this sounds cozy, and gives monetarists a warm fuzzy feeling.

When Abba Lerner was confronted in 1971 at NYC Queens College on Keynesian banker Schacht’s 1930’s policies, he blurted out ‘If the Germans had accepted Schacht’s policies, Hitler would not have been necessary’ – interesting how a Prof. showed his true face.

Schacht, founder with Bank of England’s Norman Montague, of the Basel-based Bank of International Settlements, was Hitlers economic minister. The BIS today is totally free of Swiss jurisdiction, and immune to any legal process.
‘Modern’ Monetarism may seem to be a quackademic aberration, until it puts boots on, or maybe high heels.

For those Hayek followers, note Lerner studied in London first under Hayek, then Keynes and Friedman. All 3 monetarists play a tweedle-dumb tweedle-dee battle, a step beyond Wonderland.

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ResourceGuy
June 10, 2021 5:32 am

Hobbiton land will be fun to visit with all the push carts, permanent Tolkien sets, and villagers in rags.

bluecat57
June 10, 2021 5:36 am

Cut out the middle man.
Remove all covid restrictions and just let people die.
Government always wants to complicate things.

Ryan
June 10, 2021 5:45 am

I’m sure I’ve previously requested you don’t display that woman’s picture without a warning.

What she and her enablers are doing to a once first world country is criminal.

Bruce Cobb
June 10, 2021 6:39 am

The report laid out pathways for New Zealand to meet its greenhouse gas reduction obligations by 2050.

“Obligations”, eh? Stupidities is more like it. I know they like to try to pretend the Paris “Agreement” is more than a bunch of virtue signaling by wealthier countries , power positioning by others (like China), and Free Money for everyone else but, seriously?

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John Endicott
June 10, 2021 6:53 am

Ardern says climate crisis is ‘life or death’

That’s actually a true statement…. though not because there is a “climate crisis” but because of the foolhardy policies being pushed by true believers of the phony “climate crisis” (like Ardern).

MMT’s main tenets are that a government that issues its own fiat money:

1 Can pay for goods, services, and financial assets without a need to first collect money in the form of taxes or debt issuance in advance of such purchases;

True, but that’s only part of the story. The other part is that doing so ultimately leads to the devaluation of the money (meaning you’ll need more of it to purchase the same level of goods and services). Print too much money and you’ll end up in Weimar Germany.

2 Cannot be forced to default on debt denominated in its own currency;

Again, while technically true (instead of defaulting, you print all the currency needed to cover the debt) it has the same results as point #1 – the more you print the less valuable each unit of your currency becomes.

3 Is limited in its money creation and purchases only by inflation

Which, is a function of how much your money is worth (which is basically the sum total of the goods, labor, and other resources available in your economy). The more money you print, the less each unit of that money is worth.

It’s very simple: the total amount of currency you have represents the sum total value of your economy. When you print more, that means each unit of your currency will represent less of that total economic value.

Some illustrative numbers.

  • C (currency) = E (economic value)
  • given an economic value of 1000
  • and currency of 500 units

C(500 units) = E(1000) thus C(1 unit) = E(2)
If you double your units of currency for your same economy, you halve the economic value each unit represents.
C(1000 units) = E(1000) thus C(1 unit) = E(1)

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Olen
June 10, 2021 7:17 am

Few things are more dangerous than an enthusiastic nut. Or a loose nut.

NZ better start using the misery index if they implement all those goals. First they should look at who is invested in green schemes.

mwhite
June 10, 2021 9:36 am

Well, they’ve destroyed their tourism industry………….

ResourceGuy
June 10, 2021 11:48 am

Who will make the EV parts and batteries for NZ and Australia?

China has created a ‘dystopian hellscape’ in Xinjiang, Amnesty report says (yahoo.com)

Editor
June 10, 2021 12:13 pm

What is New Zealand’s current electrical energy sector breakdown? Mostly fossil fuel? Mostly hydro? Nuclear? Wind? Solar?

The transport sector can reasonably be transitioned if there is enough electricity to every home to support two or more fast chargers (this is currently figured at least 100 amps (115 vac) per charger). Most homes in the United States would need service line upgrades for this and urban areas will have to be entirely re-wired.

Heating also, if there is enough dependable already-wired-to-homes electrical power and citizens can use “other people’s money” to make the transition.

Home cooking with electric will be OK, but commercial kitchens will kick up a fuss —

Does anyone on these commissions actually live a normal “man on the street” life (and live in New Zealand?) Do any of the commission members live in the countryside? Raise livestock? Understand New Zealand’s economy?

RdM
Reply to  Kip Hansen
June 14, 2021 7:41 am

Kip Hansen asked

“What is New Zealand’s current electrical energy sector breakdown? Mostly fossil fuel? Mostly hydro? Nuclear? Wind? Solar?”

https://www.transpower.co.nz/power-system-live-data

Editor
Reply to  RdM
June 14, 2021 7:56 am

RdM ==> Terrific, thanks. Are you in/from NZ? Do you know why the South Island is nearly 100% hydro powered and the North Island depends so much on gas and coal/gas?

RdM
Reply to  Kip Hansen
June 14, 2021 8:33 am

Hi Kip;- Yes, I’m in Auckland, NZ – it’s ` 3:30am here now.
That’s live data, I think, so clearly solar is out (not sure of delay of reportage).

There is perhaps only hydro in the SI, and geothermal & coal (& gas, which is being nobbled due to politics, absurdly) in the NI.

Sorry I’m not an expert, & just happen to be up late enough to reply that much! ;- More later, perhaps. Cheers and thanks.

RdM
Reply to  RdM
June 14, 2021 8:59 am

I mean, while there is hydro in the NI (I spent two boarding school years returning to home next to a hydro lake) there is much geothermal activity in the NI, unlike the SI, but I think I was wrong to mention that as a source of power to be had there. New offshore gas exploration permits have been banned, but what exists is still running.

The Huntly power station runs on gas & or coal but the Greens are pushing to phase out coal – now we are importing coal from Indonesia.

Some more from just one company here:
https://www.genesisenergy.co.nz/assets

E&OE!

RdM
Reply to  RdM
June 16, 2021 3:22 am

Kip, some additional data, links:

There is indeed geothermal (steam out of the ground in volcanic areas) energy.

https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2021/06/labour_-_the_party_of_coal.html#comment-2958266

– Ngawha geothermal from 10 to 25 MW

– Mokai geothermal from 55 to 110 MW

– Kawerau geothermal 100 MW (new)

– Nga Awa Purua geothermal 140 MW (new)

– Ngatamariki geothermal 80 MW (new)

– Te Huka geothermal 25 MW (new)

– Te Mihi geothermal 166 MW (new) — resource consent called in by Labour’s Mallard, and developed under National.

If you go to the top in this, um, relatively conservative centre-right libertarian blog, please note that here, the red-blue colours are reversed from what they would be in the US;- here, red is the socialist Labour govt, blue the National ‘conservative’ party.

Also see:

https://www.mbie.govt.nz/building-and-energy/energy-and-natural-resources/energy-statistics-and-modelling/energy-statistics/

and, accidentally discovered, but by no means all there may be to discover…

https://www.letstalkaboutcoal.co.nz/coal-in-nz/

Ross M.

graham dunton
June 10, 2021 12:38 pm

New Zealand PM Jacinda Ardern, is trying to blame the cows, for the constant brain farts, she is having, no comparison, give the cows a break!

Greg
June 10, 2021 3:09 pm

Lack of individual transport in a sparsely populated country like NZ very likely will be a matter of life and death.

As will lack of cheap effective heating in the glacial extents of South Island.

Horse-face is a totalitarian monster on a massive power trip. But if that is what Kiwis want, they are going to have to live with the results of that choice.

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toorightmate
June 10, 2021 4:50 pm

Thank goodness sheep don’t fart.

Warren Cole
June 10, 2021 9:36 pm

It’s all very well for you lot to laugh.
I have to live in this country run by impractical virtue signalers.
My cousin has to try and keep the family farm profitable while these nutcases are trying to kneecap farmers. (Farming is a major source of NZ export income.)

Warren Cole

June 10, 2021 10:44 pm

Don’t know about NZ but today electric cars would be a little range- anxious in Australia, with half the country covered in snow ❄️

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-australia-57425931

Charles G Gill
June 11, 2021 2:04 am

It’s funny how the morons line up like schoolchildren when commanded

Enlightened Archivist
June 11, 2021 6:09 am

Good luck NZ. Hope you all have strong pedal power because that is the motive power your politicians want to leave you with. Oh – and plenty of winter gear coz it will be cold.

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