Pope Francis Calls Covid-19 Lockdown Protestors Selfish Complainers and Profiteers from Misfortune

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

h/t Breitbart; Let them eat Cake? Pope Francis has in my opinion demonstrated a total lack of sympathy and understanding for people whose circumstances might drive them to defy or protest against Covid-19 lockdowns.

Your Holiness, more than thirty years have passed since the fall of the Berlin Wall, but it seems that we have not learned much from history. The walls continue to rise, and material and spiritual divisions strengthen. There is an impression that the old conflict between the blocs is reappearing, and at the same time new centers of power are emerging. The Catholic Church, especially during the work of your predecessor John Paul II, played a notable role in dismantling the two blocs, which had an ideological matrix. Today, however, economic interests are at the forefront. A materialistic culture is propagated that is focused only on personal well-being, and to the detriment of the community and the poor, who are becoming increasingly poor. In this new local and world situation, what contribution can the Church make to the overall well-being of individuals and peoples?

In your question, I heard the music of the Second Vatican Council, which undoubtedly marked the actions of my predecessors and which gives guidelines for our actions today: “The joys and hopes, sorrows and anxieties of our people, especially the poor and all those who suffer the joys and hopes, the sorrows and anguish of Christ’s disciples. There is nothing truly human that does not resonate in their hearts ”( Gaudium et Spes, 1). We Christians cannot turn our heads the other way and pretend not to notice what is happening around us; moreover, we are called to approach everyone and in all situations, in the name of solidarity born of the mercy of the Lord. He was the first to move towards us and became our brother and he did not run away from any situation. We want to follow him, to be his disciples.

I like to think that a Christian is a realistic person, very realistic, with the realism of the Gospel. Therefore, each generation should take over and appropriates achievements, but also the limitations and defects of each epoch, in order to recognize the fundamental contribution that has been invited to that . Undoubtedly, times are changing, but the mission continues to call us to witness to our hope.

In our pandemic context, we are tempted to think of “normality” as a return to the past; we want to “fix the house” again based on what we have already experienced. It is a temptation to “mourn the black onion from Egypt”, to regret what has happened, which prevents us from seeing one of the basic characteristics of the situation we are going through: we do not come out of the crisis the same; we can get better or worse, but never the same. Crises have the ability to exacerbate existing injustices to which we were accustomed and which we could unconsciously justify; but they can highlight best practices and reactions among us. During this period, we noticed two attitudes. On the one hand, we have authentic “urban heroes” armed with solidarity and quiet, concrete and everyday commitment, the one who takes responsibility towards his neighbor and seeks concrete solutions so that no one would be neglected. On the other hand, we have an increase in the number of those who have relentlessly profited from someone else’s misfortune or those who have thought only of themselves, who have protested or complained about certain restrictive measures, unable to accept that not everyone has the same opportunities and resources to face a pandemic.

I believe that the role of the Church is inscribed precisely at this crossroads. Now is the right time to create and launch long-term processes. Over the decades, the words “crisis” and “change” have become commonplace (social, economic, educational, environmental crisis, etc.). Much has been said and written about the “change of era” and the need and importance of seizing the opportunity. Today, it is no longer a common place in the speeches of the establishment, but it is becoming a reality that we all share. We need change. The pandemic has brought our organizational and development models into crisis; it has exposed many injustices, painful silences and social and health failures, subjecting a large number of our brothers to processes of social exclusion and degradation. In many cases, too, there is a lack of personal and shared “antibodies” that would help us cope with the crisis; and that is the fruit of all efforts to discredit and forget what fed the souls of our peoples, in the name, at first sight, of saving routines, which, in the end, deprive us of the necessary immunity. We have reduced development to simple economic growth, forgetting that authentic development must promote all people and the whole man (c.Populorum progressio , 14). The progress of all people and for all people. We cannot lose sight of the fact that change always has a price and we must ask ourselves who pays for it. We are not alone in this and, therefore, we do not have to answer these questions alone.

As Churches, it is our duty to invite other actors and encourage processes that will help us release the trapped view of the world that is organized around power, wealth, and greed. To call to create a (new) normality. I prefer to think of normality as a mission to be fulfilled, rather than as factual data or factual and unquestionable reality. Normally, it is not the past, but what we long for for our children and grandchildren: the future, which needs to be built, where social stratification and exclusion are not the dominant pattern. The normalcy experienced as a mission will depend on the way we jointly respond to the fragility of our peoples. If we learn to accept and open ourselves to the pain and vulnerability of our neighbors, we will humanize our communities and gain a (new) normality in which human dignity is not a declaration of principles, but a belief that translates into a very concrete practice and lifestyle. In this way, normalcy will not be a mere continuation of the past, nor the abolition of this difficult moment, but the mobilization of all our resources and creativity to transform the present into a link that connects us with a new chance: that things can change. The Church should play an important role here, calling and acting so that the normalcy that is being created could resemble the protocol according to which we will one day be judged (cf.Mt. , 25). If we are able to put the fragile and the small in the center, we will see that the multiplication of the loaves is not a beautiful utopia, but a reality.

Read more (Serbian): http://www.politika.rs/sr/clanak/465768/Sukobi-se-ne-resavaju-zaboravom-vec-dijalogom

Regardless of whether you agree with Covid-19 lockdowns, it is an incontrovertible fact that the lockdowns have caused tremendous hardship.

There are legitimate reasons for questioning whether lockdowns are the best response.

In many cases governments utterly failed to provide for people whose livelihoods they snatched when they drove people from the streets.

In other cases some governments, even governments in the USA, Britain and Australia, turned lockdowns into a vicious tool of political repression, shattering social trust by treating their own supporters differently to supporters of their political opponents.

Some lockdowns were so badly implemented they likely actually helped spread the disease.

Even in prosperous Australia people went hungry during the early stages of the Melbourne lockdown, thanks to the incompetence of the Victorian Government.

Not every lockdown was as comfortable as the well fed lockdown residents of the Vatican enjoyed.

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icisil
November 3, 2020 2:14 pm

Christ is not what I see in this pope.

Mark H
Reply to  icisil
November 3, 2020 2:47 pm

“Is the Pope Catholic?” used to just be a turn of phrase. Now, it’s a legitimate question.

He really seems to share more in common with Marx than with Christ from what I can see.

Damiel kampo
Reply to  Mark H
November 3, 2020 4:16 pm

You got that RIGHT ON😊😊😊

Greg
Reply to  Damiel kampo
November 3, 2020 7:52 pm

“Is the Pope Catholic?” used to just be a turn of phrase. Now, it’s a legitimate question.

I had just the same thought the other day when he said homosexuals had the right to families ( before it was “explained” away by other Vatican officials ).

I used to like that one liner, but it no longer works as a rhetorical question to which the answer is unquestionable.

I suppose we can always update it bit.

Next time someone asks you whether you want a beer, you can reply : Is the pope WOKE ?!

Bill Powers
Reply to  Damiel kampo
November 4, 2020 8:03 am

Does a Russian Bear $hite in a ballot box?

Answer: Only in opposition research from Clinton Campaign workers which is apparently sufficient for the FBI to seek out FISA warrants from the Justice Department so long as a Democrat $hites in the White House.

Otherwise: No., They $hite in the woods, stupid! Everybody but braindead leftists knows this.

Kone Wone
Reply to  Bill Powers
November 5, 2020 12:00 am

Unless they’re San Franciscan bears; then they shit in the streets.

Izaak Walton
Reply to  Mark H
November 3, 2020 4:28 pm

The advice Jesus gave a rich young man who he pitied was to sell all you have and give the money
to the poor. The first christian communities described in Acts Chapter 4 practised communism: “For neither was there among them any who lacked, for as many as were owners of lands or houses sold them, and brought the proceeds of the things that were sold, and laid them at the apostles’ feet, and distribution was made to each, according as anyone had need.” Not only that when Ananias failed to give 100% of the money from selling one of his possessions and the apostles found out he died immediately.

So Marx is actually following on from the clear example in the gospels and the works of the early christians rather than the other way round.

Derg
Reply to  Izaak Walton
November 3, 2020 4:51 pm

The Pope along with Marx are turds 💩

sycomputing
Reply to  Izaak Walton
November 3, 2020 5:23 pm

Your exegesis is fraught with problems.

The advice Jesus gave a rich young man who he pitied was to sell all you have and give the money to the poor.

1) The advice to the rich young man was given not because of his wealth, but rather because he loved that wealth more than YHWH: “But he was deeply dismayed by these words [of Jesus], and he went away grieving; for he was one who owned much property.”

The first christian communities described in Acts Chapter 4 practised communism:

No, they practiced “familialism.” Communism is in practice a system of *government* whereby private property is nonexistent and all means of production is involuntarily centered in the state. Wages, etc., are controlled and “distributed” to the citizenry by the state. A command economy.

These first Christians were NOT creating a government nor functioning in any way like a government.

1) Their actions were guided by the Divine, not by themselves (as a state would). 2) Their actions were wholly voluntary and their private property was their own until they chose to offer it, regardless of their acceptance into the community of believers:

Acts 5:1-11 (emphasis added)

(1) Now a man named Ananias, together with his wife Sapphira, also sold a piece of property. (2) With his wife’s full knowledge he kept back part of the money for himself, but brought the rest and put it at the apostles’ feet. (3) Then Peter said, “Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land? (4) Didn’t it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn’t the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied just to human beings but to God.”

So rather than Marx “following on from the clear example in the gospels,” etc., it’s rather the case that you have misapplied the text to confirm your own presuppositions and bias.

I urge you to reconsider.

Patrick B
Reply to  sycomputing
November 3, 2020 7:22 pm

Exactly. This Pope favors the power of Caesar and not the persuasion of Jesus.

Reply to  sycomputing
November 3, 2020 8:09 pm

“Marx is actually following on from the clear example in the gospels ”

You’ve left out some important details, Izaak Walton.

Jesus recommended that the rich man voluntarily give his goods to the poor. He didn’t send his followers to take them by force.

The early Christians indeed shared extensively among themselves, but how much they gave was an individual choice. Monastic orders and groups such as the Shakers were also situations with communal economics. This approach would work for a while where people were highly motivated. It has never worked as the basis of a national economy.

Communist Russia realized they needed that high level of motivation to make a statist economy work and hoped to achieve it in the “New Soviet Man/Woman.” Although the concept inspired a lot of inferior art, they never achieved it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Soviet_man

Komerade Cube
Reply to  sycomputing
November 3, 2020 8:21 pm

Thank you sycomputing

icisil
Reply to  Izaak Walton
November 3, 2020 5:44 pm

“The first christian communities described in Acts Chapter 4 practised communism”

A tired trope. No they didn’t. They practiced communal living based on giving love, voluntarily. No one was required to participate. Communism is never voluntary and always violent; the exact opposite of Acts Chapter 4 Christianity.

icisil
Reply to  Izaak Walton
November 3, 2020 5:47 pm

I forgot to mention that Annanias and Saphirra died because they lied to the holy spirit, not because they decided to keep something for themselves. Peter told them the money was theirs do with as they saw fit.

Dan D
Reply to  Izaak Walton
November 3, 2020 5:56 pm

Jesus and his apostles gave of themselves what was brought freely to them. They didn’t wait for the Sanhedrin or Rome to do it for them. Marxism, through authoritarian government, takes the life energy of the people it controls and then redistributes it without choice and with no chance to opt out. Clearly you can see the difference.

eck
Reply to  Izaak Walton
November 3, 2020 6:32 pm

You’re an ignorant dolt or worse. See above.

Richard (the cynical one)
Reply to  Izaak Walton
November 3, 2020 7:37 pm

Isaak: Actually it was not so much that Ananias didn’t remit the entire proceeds of the sale, as it was his deceptive claim that he had done so.

Ozonebust
Reply to  Izaak Walton
November 3, 2020 9:21 pm

Iizaak
Spot on, how things have changed, now religion’s are profit centers.

Reply to  Ozonebust
November 3, 2020 10:43 pm

The catholic church, the prince of all heresies and the father of slavery and lies.

Its hold over people’s enslaved minds over countless centuries has increased poverty, superstition & foolishness far beyond what Karl ever managed with his “control of the means of production”.

The only rival it has ever had in the mind control stakes has been the Russian orthodox splinters.
The very idea, that people should be repeating mumbo-jumbo for centuries, praying to a dead virgin proves the Pope and his ilk were always about no good.

The mere fact people actually even publish whatever crap spouts out of the mouth of the elitists liek the POPE in Rome, with their paedo conman hords, protected by state subsidy, or even vast slices of subsidy income to rebuild such idols as Notre Dame de Paris, defies belief.
Fact is,- the AGW mob, the US Baptist mob, the Mormon, the JWs, the BBC mobs only share one thing, vying for control of your mind.
Pseudo religious heresy is the last stake out of evil.

Brain washing & fear are the first resort of the control freaks, no matter what colour or language they use.

AMC
Reply to  Izaak Walton
November 4, 2020 5:12 am

Actually, the Catholic Church, in paragraph 2425 of the Catechism, explicitly rejects both communism and socialism.

eck
Reply to  Mark H
November 3, 2020 6:29 pm

+10

Reply to  Mark H
November 3, 2020 11:35 pm

The answer is “no, the Pope isn’t a Catholic”.

The person generally referred to as the Pope official title is:

“Bishop of Rome, Vicar of Jesus Christ, Successor of the Prince of the Apostles, Supreme Pontiff of the Universal Church, Primate of Italy, Archbishop and Metropolitan of the Roman Province, Sovereign of the State of Vatican City, Servant of the Servants of God”.

The real pope is Tawadros II, who’s official title is:

“The Pope of the Coptic Orthodox Church of Alexandria is the leader of the Coptic Orthodox Church of Alexandria”

Paul Nevins
Reply to  Mark H
November 4, 2020 4:20 am

Benedict stepped down Francis was selected. In the history of the church anytime a second Pope was elected for any reason before the previous one died this second Pope became known as an Anti-Pope . I don’t see any reason to think that has changed.

Scissor
Reply to  icisil
November 3, 2020 3:49 pm

Jesus Marx

BCBill
Reply to  Scissor
November 3, 2020 5:24 pm

Jesus Groucho Marx

Reply to  icisil
November 3, 2020 4:44 pm

The pope is a d o p e

very old white guy
Reply to  icisil
November 4, 2020 3:28 am

He is not a Christian, whatever else he might be.

Curious George
November 3, 2020 2:20 pm

Lockdowns mean that you don’t die of COVID-19. You die of hunger.

Reply to  Curious George
November 3, 2020 5:43 pm

You die of depression-induced suicide or overdose.

sycomputing
Reply to  Robert Kernodle
November 3, 2020 7:14 pm

Bob where’ve u been? I’ve been worried . . .

🙂

Richard (the cynical one)
Reply to  Curious George
November 4, 2020 10:38 pm

Lockdowns mean you actually do die as a result of Covid19, even if you have never contacted a single virus. The worst infection is the one that has sickened our economy.

Martin Mason
November 3, 2020 2:21 pm

Religion has no place in the modern world. This hypocrite should keep his place.

n.n
Reply to  Martin Mason
November 3, 2020 4:14 pm

Judge a religion, not by its philosopher(s), but by its principles. That said, everyone has a religion, that is a behavioral protocol. For example, the popular, ostensibly “secular” religion favored by the Progressive Church is Pro-Choice, selective, opportunistic, relativistic, and notably politically congruent (“=”), often referred to by its adherents as “ethics”.

Javert Chip
Reply to  Martin Mason
November 3, 2020 4:15 pm

Of course religion has a place in the world; it’s bigotry (which you’ve just demonstrated) that should’t have a place.

If Francis spent more time preventing his priests from having sex with parishioners young sons, and well as actively addressing his church’s long standing money laundering fiasco, he’d gain a lot more credibility, and have significantly less time for foolish statements.

Barbara
November 3, 2020 2:23 pm

I’ve never said this to/about a Pope before (and I’m not Catholic), but SHADDUP, Francis. >:-(

November 3, 2020 2:35 pm

To cite griff, Pope Francis has no credibility at all.
Unfortunately, there are to much believers and followers…..

bluecat57
Reply to  Krishna Gans
November 3, 2020 2:45 pm

Read a broader swath of news. Rank and file Catholics are leaving the church or openly disagreeing with the Poop.

Javert Chip
Reply to  Krishna Gans
November 3, 2020 4:20 pm

Well, Griffy has more than a couple credibility problems of his own.

If he ever stumbled over scientific truth, he’s certainly recovered fully.

JC
November 3, 2020 2:36 pm

Who appointed this guy God. Oh yeah…. right.

bluecat57
Reply to  JC
November 3, 2020 2:44 pm

No delusional men.

Carguy Pete
November 3, 2020 2:42 pm

So the libtard Marxist tendencies outweigh his own religious doctrines.
I hope the college of Cardinals will think about this the next time they choose a Pope.
Francis is an embarrassment to the church.

saveenergy
Reply to  Carguy Pete
November 3, 2020 3:10 pm

& the Catholic church is an embarrassment to the teachings of Jesus Christ

bluecat57
November 3, 2020 2:43 pm

Damn tooting. I’m profiting like crazy sitting on my ass in my parent’s home since I lost my restaurant job.

Len Werner
November 3, 2020 2:45 pm

Profiteering? You bet.

As of today, Health Canada lists that a total of 11,873,770 Covid-19 tests have been completed in Canada. I checked around the US–costs in a free-market society (at least until the end of today) average around US$1400 per test, or C$1850.

That means that C$22 Billion has been spent on testing in Canada. Yes, somebody is profiteering. Our governments are their agents. I wonder how big that number is in the US?

Note that only 2% of those tests have resulted in a positive outcome; 241,931 or 0.6% of the population. And there may be an 8:1 false positive rate when related to actual disease prevalence.

Just how irrelevant to the real world can a religious leader make himself?–a quote from Jeff Foxworthy comes to mind:

‘Jess when ah thank yew’ve sayed the stewpidist thang–YEW KEEP TALKIN’!”

Sunny
November 3, 2020 3:08 pm

Huh, the pope seems to be too comfortable in his 7 star walled hotel, complete with the finest foods, drink, entertainment (god only knows what sort 😬) and staff on complete beck and call. Clearly he has never gone without food or the absolute mental collapse of having no money to pay the bills..

Oh well, he spoke and nobody gave two poo’s, nothing new.

Bill
November 3, 2020 3:13 pm

Francis is a Marxist apparatchik. He’s not even qualified to hold John Paul II’s, well you know… This chump should read John Paul’s 1991 encyclical…

http://www.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_jp-ii_enc_01051991_centesimus-annus.html

…which is a monumental display of philosophical, religious, and moral sensibilities.

Reply to  Bill
November 4, 2020 11:26 am

Can you base any of your objections on actual violation of the Catholic Church’s Canon Law, or no?

Gary Watson
November 3, 2020 3:21 pm

Selfish complainers and profiteers from misfortune. That is a very good description of the pope himself. He never stops complaining and proiteering from the fears and misfortunes of his flock.

Quilter
November 3, 2020 3:21 pm

I am Catholic. Pope Francis lives in a protected environment where he has no idea any longer what it is like to be truly poor or to have no income because politicians have closed down your business and you have to lay off your employees. I am not in that situation, but my brother is. Six families, his former employees, no longer have an income other than what is provided by the government, because my brother cannot pay them when he has no income. His business will not survive Covid, and he has chosen to retire so those jobs are gone for good.
I would also point out that we people, laid off by Covid, are those who pay the taxes that support those that cannot support themselves. Certainly in Australia at least, the ruling class previously known as public servants have not suffered a single job loss. It is the productive private sector that has been closed down. Many of us also help pay for a church that is increasingly selling out its own principles.
It is my duty as a Christian and as a human being to help those that cannot help themselves. But the parable of the talents reminds us that those that can help themselves should do so and should not sponge off others, because that means there is less money to help those who are truly poor and unfortunate.

Joel Snider
November 3, 2020 3:26 pm

Funny, I call him a fake.

Ian Coleman
November 3, 2020 3:38 pm

Mr. Infallible here thinks that Christians are realistic people? Well I dunno. When religions have to choose between reality and false comfort, reality generally loses.

I’m elderly now and have finally figured out that it is cruel and cheap to mock religious people. But the temptation is always there.

Jesus rose from the dead is not a realistic scenario. Even if He really did.

n.n
Reply to  Ian Coleman
November 3, 2020 4:07 pm

Christian, no. They, in principle, acknowledge a separation of logical domains. The Pope comes across as Progressive, sometimes Liberal, occasionally Libertarian, with their ostensibly “secular” Pro-Choice quasi-religion infamous for conflating logical domains when it is politically congruent.

November 3, 2020 3:40 pm

Pope Francis, what would you say about a corporation worth tens of billions of dollars who preys (pun intended) on the most impoverished people on Earth weekly, asking for donations to ensure their eternal salvation? THAT is unbridled greed. Open up you ledgers, let us see just how many tens of billions in assets you have, and redistribute that wealth among the poor. THEN you can lecture us not to be greedy and to distribute our wealth.

fred250
November 3, 2020 3:47 pm

The Pope is a proven marxist totalitarian creep, anyway

A disgrace to the Catholic church.

Reply to  fred250
November 4, 2020 11:29 am

Usually, its the rough, intended mis-interpretations, supposed “translations” by 3rd party media-types (WITH an agenda) that are at fault …

Screwtape (literally) can be quite devilish in his twisting of words and meanings.

starzmom
November 3, 2020 3:53 pm

I wonder where Pope Francis thinks people without jobs will get the resources they need to buy food, pay rent and utilities and other necessities of life. He doesn’t seem to be spending the Catholic Church’s tremendous wealth to help people who are suffering from forced house arrest.

I am also a life-long Catholic, but must say that at this point, I am finding it very hard to support the Church–which is different from my faith and beliefs.

jorgekafkazar
Reply to  starzmom
November 4, 2020 9:37 am

I was also a life-long Roman Catholic and sought a belief system more congruent with my own philosophy. I found a close match in a local church and have attended and donated weekly. I kept attending even when the music minister and his minions performed the atheist hymn “Imagine” during services. Even a 20 minute film on alleged global warming didn’t scare me off. But the recent Woke sermons with mention of White Privilege and Evil Capitalism was too much. I no longer attend, even virtually. And of course I wouldn’t want to taint their coffers with my savings derived from capitalist sources.

Reply to  jorgekafkazar
November 4, 2020 11:35 am

Pls, see: https://www.crediblecatholic.com/ for a perspective outside ‘popular’ western presentations on this subject …

Also, the perspectives and dialog on EWTN affiliated stations is refreshing and not the watered-down Christianity found today.

Recommend those talks/sermons by Fr. Mitch Pacwa and Fr. Spitzer’s Universe in particular:

https://www.google.com/search?q=spitzer+youtube&rlz=1C1GCEB_en&oq=spitzer+youtube&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i22i30l7.4527j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

n.n
November 3, 2020 4:02 pm

Tamp down infections, delay the spread. Report people wearing virus/bacteria collectors. Avoid minority of two gatherings over compressed time and space to mitigate progress of super spreaders. Wash your hands and be careful to limit cross-contamination.

November 3, 2020 4:02 pm

I suggest the Pope actually read the Bible for a change. Jesus Christ remained neutral in politics. I will help the Pope out. John 6:14-15, the Jews wanted to make Jesus king, but he went and hid from them so they wouldn’t do that. John 18:33-38, Pontius Pilate asked Jesus if was king of the Jews. Jesus told Pilate that his kingdom was not of the world because nobody was fighting to deliver him from the Jews. Romans 13:1-6, Paul tells the Roman Christians to respect and obey the government and also pay taxes. I will bet money I have read the Bible more than this Pope has.

Bob Meyer
November 3, 2020 4:04 pm

No pope has ever endorsed the free market, not even Leo XIII. Leo said that labor and capital should freely agree to wages except (there’s always an exception) if the wage cannot support the worker. He condemned both capitalism and socialism, capitalism leading to materialistic selfishness and socialism replacing god with the state.

This pope has openly dropped the case against socialism. At least he’s honest about this.

Artiem2112
November 3, 2020 4:13 pm

I grew up in a Catholic family, and we went to our local Catholic church in New Canaan, CT. Every Sunday they passed the donation basket – asking for donations for “the poor”.
Then, one Sunday just after the start for the new year, our Monsignor skipped his usual homily, and instead read the church’s financial report for the previous year – that included investment performance data, as well as a short scolding aimed at the parishioners for a failure to meet the 4th quarter ‘donation’ totals. I was 13 at that time.

I never set foot in another Catholic church again, nor will I ever if I can help it.

Dudley Horscroft
Reply to  Artiem2112
November 3, 2020 8:27 pm

Artiem 2112 ,please go to anther Christian Church. Southern Methodist, Baptist, Evangelical, Anglican, United Methodist, not all churches are the same.
We in Australia see church hierarchies haring off on all sorts of daft ideas, Climate change, Black Lives Matter, same sex marriage, just a few. But we carry on.

Love from Dudley Horscroft

Artiem2112
Reply to  Dudley Horscroft
November 3, 2020 11:12 pm

Thank you for the love Dudley, and right back at you, kind sir!
I have always strived to be the best person I can. I love & respect others, help my fellow man when & wherever possible, treat others as I wish to be treated, I am charitable when I am able, and served my country as a member of the US Air Force.
I do these things because I believe in my heart that they are right, and never for reward or personal gain, but I have chosen to do so as an atheist.
I hold no ill will toward religions or those who follow them, but I am happier remaining on the Sidelines 😉

Be well – my best to you and yours!

Reply to  Dudley Horscroft
November 4, 2020 11:47 am

re: “We in Australia see church hierarchies haring off on all sorts of daft ideas, Climate change, Black Lives Matter, same sex marriage, just a few.”

One doesn’t hear any of that nonsense on the EWTN-affiliated stations, nor in the sermons on the broadcast masses; I recommend looking for a Catholic station in your area:

https://www.ewtn.com/radio/affiliates-map

Damiel kampo
November 3, 2020 4:15 pm

First Commy Pope and STUPED 😊

November 3, 2020 4:33 pm

What a complete muppet

Here are the profiteers, Government cronies through and through
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-8875103/Banks-stockpile-cash-bumper-bonuses-Barclays-boosts-payout.html

They profit because the Bank of England has gone on (yet) another money printing spree. At least £150 billion so far to cover Covid
They are the guys who introduce that new money into general circulation, taking off a hefty slice for their trying and tiring work.

Exactly as they did when £450+ billion was printed to cover the Lehman calamity of 2008
It destroyed interest rates & savings and then made house price rises go off such that they made Obama’s electric price rises look like a damp squib. Under a bucket.

It completely barred First-Time Buyers from the housing market because folks with a little bit of money could use that as a deposit on 2nd 3rd 4th homes, benefiting from the low interest rates to get a cheap mortgage (
kids of my daughter’s age)

This new tranche is going to see kids of my sons age (just 5yrs less than his twin sisters) not even able to get a job, let alone a house.

We really are in some very deep sh1t here. Global (haha) Warming is The Very Least of anybody’s problems….

A Carrington, multiple Carringtons in fact, would be the best thing to happen.
I’ve said it before and say again:
Switch off the internet.
Thats all.
Switch. It. Off.

Curious George
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November 3, 2020 5:38 pm
Reply to  Curious George
November 4, 2020 11:50 am

AND – the network operators are prepared. We’ve been through this before, but, its such on arcane subject MOST ppl (non-technical “laymen”) are not prone to remember.

Photios
November 3, 2020 4:41 pm

Q: Is the Pope a Catholic?
A: The last one was…

Philo
Reply to  Photios
November 4, 2020 8:56 am

pretty good thinking there!

November 3, 2020 4:41 pm

The various factions of the christian church have been telling people how to live their lives for 2,000 years, often in great detail. So why would it surprise anyone that the Pope tells people to obey lockdown orders? At least he didn’t tie wearing a mask to getting a seat in heaven.

fred250
November 3, 2020 5:06 pm

The marxist poop practicing social distancing October 2020

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November 3, 2020 5:11 pm

Why would anyone care what a pedo-coddling commie says?

ResourceGuy
November 3, 2020 5:14 pm

As Argentina really implodes this time maybe there will be some lessons learned in the populist/socialist big tent of backward thinking with very real outcomes.

niceguy
November 3, 2020 5:19 pm

Can people do a recall election on the Pope?

Asking for a friend.

PaulH
November 3, 2020 5:37 pm

we have an increase in the number of those who have relentlessly profited from someone else’s misfortune or those who have thought only of themselves …

Indeed. But those are not the protesters.

Craig from Oz
November 3, 2020 6:05 pm

Makes me glad I am a Polytheist.

Tom Abbott
November 3, 2020 8:42 pm

The Pope is a Lefty and just about all Lefties are delusional. I think that is a requirement for being a Leftie.

Paul
November 3, 2020 8:49 pm

It’s all about the imaginary friends.

Felix
November 3, 2020 10:45 pm

Economic growth is the key to all progress.

Having better food, housing, health care, and everything else depends on a sound economy. The more wealth a society generates, the more it has for expensive medicine, better transportation, better food, better insurance, better everything.

The pope and every Progressive I have ever heard of are blighted ignorant fools for thinking money doesn’t buy happiness. Happiness itself is not something that can be bought and sold, but everything which makes life better and creates happy people takes resources, and that is what money represents — access to resources.

Montrose Faraday
November 3, 2020 11:22 pm

The bear is the one wearing the funny hat – while THIS Pope does all the sh1tt1ng in the woods…

Flight Level
November 3, 2020 11:28 pm

Isn’t the Vatican historically in the miracles, wonders and universal holy crowdfunded corporate business ?

Talk the talk, walk the walk, time to deliver guys, you’ve got yourselves a schoolbook case of what miracles and a few wonders can solve.

So get at it, enough “Honest Joe, preowned cars” arguments already.

Adam Gallon
November 4, 2020 12:46 am

Just focusing on the protesters, a bunch of nutters who deny that there’s a virus in the first place, say it’s no worse than a cold, it’s an evil plan to have everybody injected with a microchip, having to wear a mask infringes their democratic rights or any other stupid idea that they’ve been told by a friend, seen some nutcase online claim or a Facebook meme.

Doug Huffman
Reply to  Adam Gallon
November 4, 2020 4:08 am

In whom had they Faith to put on their masks? Whom will they believe to take off their masks?

The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.

I asked a neighbor and he responded, “When I am comfortable.”. I asked when did he become un-comfortable and he responded, “When I almost died.”. I left my idiot neighbor to his misery virtue signaling.

Doug Huffman
November 4, 2020 4:02 am

I recently learned of –

Sedevacantism is the position held by some people who identify as Catholic that the present occupier of the Holy See is not truly the pope due to the mainstream church’s espousal of what they see as the heresy of modernism and that, for lack of a valid pope, the See has been vacant since the death of Pope Pius XII in 1958 or the death of Pope John XXIII in 1963.

Very satisfying to me a conservative Confessing Lutheran. After 500 years, time for another Reformation.

AMC
Reply to  Doug Huffman
November 4, 2020 5:31 am

The positions held by the Society of PPX and others are erroneous in that they would mean that Jesus was lying in Matthew 16:18. If the church collapses, or becomes invalid in some way, then the gates of hell have prevailed, however, Jesus promised they wouldn’t. This is encouraging to me as a Catholic in the sense that I believe the doctrine, but recognize that the Church, beginning with Judas, is led by flawed human beings. That does not shake my faith. Pope Francis, in his entire Pontificate, has not spoken Ex Cathedra (infallibly) on any subject, including this one, which means his opinions are his own and, frankly, I disagree with him.

November 4, 2020 5:20 am

Guess the Mods considered my comment too truthful to allow.

Tom in Florida
November 4, 2020 5:52 am

Perhaps this will help with the understanding of why lock downs only work in the very short term and fail long term:
If the government locked down auto traffic for everyone except emergency workers, the number of auto accidents would go down drastically. But when the lock down is eased and more traffic goes back on the roads, accidents will increase. When you open up the roads to full time traffic again, the number of accidents will go back to what was normal prior to the lock down.
This virus is not going away just because people are not out and about. It is not a passing event that you can hide from and wait for it to dissipate. It will be always be there. so we need to cope with it just as we do with traffic accidents.

griff
November 4, 2020 8:27 am

‘In other cases some governments, even governments in the USA, Britain and Australia, turned lockdowns into a vicious tool of political repression, shattering social trust by treating their own supporters differently to supporters of their political opponents.’

No they didn’t! Hyperbolic nonsense!

Philo
Reply to  griff
November 4, 2020 9:12 am

Welcome to the party griff.
What country do you live in? Obviously, not the USA. The federal government didn’t screw the pooch, but many Democratic state Governors have. In the US the state government has policy control over this kind of issue(not National security. A bad example is Pennsyklvania, and New York, and New Jersey, and California.
They all implemented stringent lockdowns. Didn’t work very well in PA because it is majority conservative, albeit pretty evenly distributed outside the major cities. The lockdown orders did greatly affect the big cities because the city government enforced the rules. A lot of other places didn’t really enforce the rules. Virtually nobody was arrested or chastised for not wearing a mask on a hike or a run in a park.

Sad to say the PA governor tried to be a half-pint dictator. He did succeed is wasting money and words with little effect. The guy is strictly a tin-pot dictator. He’s the kind who moved his multi-million dollar company out of PA to avoid taxes BEFORE he ran for governor. He followed CDC guidelines as best he could and threw record numbers of people out of work and closed many companies through the economic stalemate.
The quote you have is right on the money at least in PA, USA. Proud Democratic dogbone.

Loydo
Reply to  griff
November 4, 2020 11:00 pm

You beat me to it Griff. I can talk about Australia and Worrel’s comment is ignorant, idealogical driven delusion. Victoria, the only part of Australia that endured a couple of months of serious, extended locking down, has had zero cases, let me repeat that ZERO CASES the last 5 days and as a result and can look forward to getting back to some kind of normality. Compare that to Missouri (about the same population), yesterday’s new infections 3,300 and set to explode. Trying to impress the choir here by calling what has happend in Victoria “political repression” is about the most ridiculous thing I’ve read since the pandemic started.

The places whose leaders were driven by Worrels brand of ignorant, idealogical delusion and have ignored the advice of their epidemiologists are plunging back into an even deeper wave of uncontrollable infection and it’s going to get a lot worse before it gets better. Its the innocent medical staff risking their lives who I feel the most sorry for.

sycomputing
Reply to  Loydo
November 5, 2020 3:47 am

Doom, gloom, fear and trembling, agony, despair, malevolence, plotting and hatred.

Does even Hell have the fury of a progressive governing on earth?

jorgekafkazar
November 4, 2020 9:46 am

I’m unsure who is being quoted in the massive block quote attributed to “–Read more (Serbian).” Eric Worrall? Breitbart? it’s obviously not a native English speaker.

November 4, 2020 11:24 am

Um … where are his exact words? I’m not hearing this commentary from EWTN and their host of on-air priests and other on-air individuals …

November 5, 2020 7:59 am

The marxists have done a gradual but excellent job of dismantling the Catholic religion.

November 5, 2020 6:40 pm

Warren G. Harding must be turning on his grave. The return to normalcy hijacked by Biden, and now the Pope wants to play God and create a new fake green one.

Jim
November 6, 2020 8:53 am

He witnessed first hand, Communism in Argentina. Many died, esp priests. Now he wants the whole world to go down this road of despair! He’s a decent guy, that has gone astray – power corrupts absolutely, and he’s lost his way! Thousand’s of priests in the Church have also gone astray over the years, sexually abusing 10’s of thousand’s young boys and even girls, even killing some of them, but ruining their lives and leading them away from God. Whosoever leads even one of my little children away from God, it would be better to tie a millstone around his neck and throw them to the very bottom of the sea! (paraphrasing). Why haven’t all the Pope’s had all priest who sexually abused kids, tried, convicted, and sent to prison for live, but even better, put to death? Instead…they just moved them around the globe. Most were sent back to the Vatican. A few have been convicted recently by authorities. This Pope did little to actually help these abused children. Instead…they just pay them money from their Vatican Bank that’s supported heavily by the Mafia who own’s them in Italy! The only person(s) who can forgive sin is either Jesus or God…without exception! Asking forgiveness to a priest is like the tinkling of brass, falling away to the ground. The leaders of The Church are no different than the Sanhedrin, who were responsible for killing Christ, torturing Him and hanging Him on the cross! Mixing politics with religion is not what Jesus taught – “Give to Ceasar, the things that are Caesar’s, and to God, the things that are God’s!” Of course, you should keep politics and religion separate, but you can’t take religion out of politicians. It only makes for a more forgiving, merciful, and loving leader. Leaders who care for and serve for the benefit of all human kind!

L K
November 15, 2020 7:20 am

Surely they must have, in his belief, free will and will be judged by God when they die, right?