In case there was any doubt that ‘Climate Change” was not communism, here is an article in Foreign Policy that will remove it.
The Case for Climate Reparations
The world’s poorest will bear the worst consequences of the climate crisis. Redirecting international resources to address entrenched inequalities provides a way out.
NICOLÁS ORTEGA ILLUSTRATION FOR FOREIGN POLICY
BY OLÚFẸ́MI O. TÁÍWÒ, BEBA CIBRALICOCTOBER 10, 2020, 6:00 AM
Current estimates put the world on track for as much as a 5°C temperature increase by the end of the century, reshaping the places that humans have lived for thousands of years. Island states such as Haiti, Cape Verde, and Fiji face “existential risks” from sea level rise and extreme weather events. By as soon as 2050, large parts of Mumbai, Ho Chi Minh City, and New Orleans may be underwater.
Over the next 30 years, the climate crisis will displace more than 140 million people within their own countries—and many more beyond them. Global warming doesn’t respect lines on a map: It will drive massive waves of displacement across national borders, as it has in Guatemala and Africa’s Sahel region in recent years.
The great climate migration that will transform the world is just beginning. To adapt, the international community will need a different approach to politics. There are two ways forward: climate reparations or climate colonialism. Reparations would use international resources to address inequalities caused or exacerbated by the climate crisis; it would allow for a way out of the climate catastrophe by tackling both mitigation and migration. The climate colonialism alternative, on the other hand, would mean the survival of the wealthiest and devastation for the world’s most vulnerable people.
It’s filled with goodies such as:
Climate colonialism is like climate apartheid on an international scale. Economic power, location, and access to resources determine how communities can respond to climate impacts. But these factors are shaped by existing global injustices: the history of slavery, colonialism, and imperialism that enriched some countries at the expense of others. Global warming has exacerbated these inequalities, and the climate crisis will lead to new divisions between those who can mitigate its impact and those who cannot.
It’s for the greater good Comrade
Unless these powerful entities abandon financial and political self-interest in favor of the greater good, the pursuit of elite interest in a world where power is distributed so unevenly guarantees climate colonialism—that is, if society survives at all.
It’s all about redistribution;
But to mitigate climate change effectively and fairly, the international community needs to broadly redistribute funds across states to respond to inequalities in resilience capacity and the unjust system underpinning them. As Mohammed Adow, the director of the Nairobi-based think tank Power Shift Africa, explains, the international community has already designed a mechanism that could perform this task: the Green Climate Fund (GCF), which is the largest international fund aimed at helping developing countries mitigate and adapt to climate impacts.
HT/Steve Milloy
Current estimates put the world on track for as much as a 5°C temperature increase by the end of the century what a stack of cow pies….
The less the climate changes in the present, the worse the forecasts for the future get.
According to satellite data, the globe is warming at 0.14 C per decade. Assuming this continues (it may not – the PDO and the AMDO are due to go into a cooling phase) we will see just over 1 C in the next 80 years. 5 C is indeed alarmist BS.
Well, 1C is in the “Up to 5C” ballpark sooo, not wrong…not even wrong
I seem to remember calculating that IF the Earth kept warming up at the rate it changes from the average midnight temperature to the average midday temperature it would not take many years for it to reach the temperature of melting lead… So EVERY night we are ‘on track’ for that….
According to extrapolations from the very latest observations (satellite), it looks more like about 1.1° C warmer by 2100 than it is right now in 2020. So they’re only off by a factor of 5.
http://www.drroyspencer.com/2020/10/uah-global-temperature-update-for-september-2020-0-57-deg-c/
That’s a trend of 1.4° C per century (+0.14C/decade) based on the long-term trend since 1979, multiplied by 0.8 (another 80 years) until 2100.
Linear extrapolations in a cyclic system is a mugs game for people who are bound to lose.!!
Wait, 2C, 3C and now 5C? Which one is it exactly? Because I’ve seen “reports” for all 3 but surprisingly not the 1.2/3/5C is mentioned anymore. Imagine that.
They’re all right…UP TO 5C
If you play your cards right, you might get five overlapping reparation payments stacked.
The next steps are to declare debate ended and then run a survey that says 97 percent agree.
Does it name China? I thought not.
Everything “bad” in the world ALWAYS impacts the poor more forcefully, because they do not have the means to adapt.
However, the converse is also true for bare necessities. Approximately 25,000 people starve to death every day. As CO2 has been increasing, the global production of rice, wheat, and corn have been increasing at an even more rapid rate.
A little more bread in my diet just makes me fatter. A little more bread to the poorest in the world, allows their family to survive. In terms of mitigating global deaths, the impact of rising CO2 is clearly a net positive.
You will have to define ‘bad’.
Currently, North Africa and the Sahara/Sahel seem to be getting wetter; that is climate change. Is that bad? Is having sufficient water no only to survive but also to grow crops bad?
Is this what the Paris Accord slush fund was to be used for? Incidentally, Trump’s withdrawal fro the Paris Accord does not take effect until next month as there is a 3 year withdrawal period after announcement of intent. So if Biden is elected, the US will rejoin without missing a beat.
” does not take effect ”
Has Trump been shoveling money out the door for the past 3 years? Not that I know of. That is the effect of his withdrawal of the USA from the Paris Accord. Meanwhile emissions from the US have gone down.
Harris/Biden will need other people’s money to thank their friends (support domestic priorities). The UN slush fund may not fit into that agenda, so rejoining might be just hand waving.
Indeed. While it “officially” does not take effect until Nov 4th 202, in reality we’ve effectively been out of it since Jan 20th 2017. Trump not only didn’t shovel any additional money in to the slush fund like Obama did (twice!), he’s been dismantling the Obama regulations that Obama set up (via his “I have a pen and a phone” method) to support the Paris Accords.
But don’t be too sure about “not fitting” their agenda. a lot of their friends that they need OPM to thank are watermelons through and through. rejoining Paris is definitely in the agenda, even if it might not be all that close to the top. IE Biden/Harris won’t be rejoining on day one, but don’t for a minute think that they’ll never get around to it should they ever get into the position to do so.
Nov 4th 2020.
Hate when that happens, I blame the missing zero on this old keyboard, sometimes the keys go down but they don’t register and letters (or in this case numbers) get skipped.
Sorry Kevin, you’ve got it a bit wrong. as of the Day after the election we are officially out of the Paris Accord (unofficially we’ve been out since Trump was sworn in) which is 1 year , not 3, after announcement of intent. Trump sent the formal notification of Withdraw on Nov 4th 2019 (one year later is Nov 4th 2020, the day after the US elections, a little over 2 months before the next presidential swearing in).
Why did Trump wait until Nov 4th 2019 to begin the formal notification of withdraw despite talking about it since the earliest days of his administration? Well, that’s where the “three years” bit comes in. Countries could not submit withdraws until 3 years after the accord went into effect in that country, which was back on Nov 4th 2016 for the US. 2016+3 = 2019. Nov 4th 2019 was literally the earliest date that Trump was allowed, according to the rules of the accord, to submit the notice of withdraw.
Now if Biden somehow wins, he could well try to rejoin the Paris accord in Jan, after he’s sworn in. But that’s hardly “without missing a beat” as we’ll have officially been out of it for months, and have unofficially been out of it for years (the last payment we made to the Paris accord slush fund was back when Obama shuffled money around to make a second payment despite never getting the money authorized by Congress). Not to mention Trump has dismantled a lot of Obama’s climate plans that were needed to support his Paris agreements (See what happened when you rely on a pen and a phone, the next guy that comes along can undo it with a pen and a phone).
And let’s not forget, the Paris Accord was never ratified by congress (which is why Trump was able to withdraw from it without going through congress). There’s plenty of ground for lawsuits over that simple fact, and if the last 4 years of Dems suing Trump over every action he takes has taught the Republicans anything, it’s should be to file lawsuits against everything the next Dem President does. And with the Trump court appointees, eventually winning those lawsuits should be easier than ever before (no wonder the Dems want to pack the courts, it’d take them decades to otherwise shift the courts back to the old liberal status quo).
What? Parts of New Orleans might be underwater by as early as 2050? Here’s a cheap thrill: call up Google Earth Pro, find New Orleans, move the cursor around and watch the elevation. How does -8 meters sound? That’s eight (8) meters below sea level. I bet some enterprising persons can find something even further below sea level. Can we agree that New Orleans is already “underwater”?
And the streets in Miami Beach were originally laid out in the 1920s below King tide.
Also “..140 million will be displaced WITHIN THEIR OWN COUNTRY ..”
In other words, moved out of a flood plain to higher ground.
Catastrophe!
How ’bout if we help them get affordable energy and their country becomes more prosperous and they can help THEIR OWN citizens?
During winter, it sometimes feels like all 140 million are here in Florida fleeing the cold weather.
Affordable energy is the life blood of capitalism, the Marxists will fight it every step of the way.
“And the streets in Miami Beach were originally laid out in the 1920s below King tide.”
wrong George…..Alton road was not raised and just paved over…Fisher was in a hurry to get his trolley to his property…Lincoln Road
That area has always flooded…
“By as soon as 2050, large parts of Mumbai, Ho Chi Minh City, and New Orleans may be underwater.”
Not to mention seafront homes recently purchased by Barack Obama and Bill Gates who are also supposedly quite concerned about climate change.
It’s good to know African ‘think tanks’ have achieved parity with U.S. and European ‘think tanks’ in competency and usefulness. They are probably ahead of PEW and some others.
Gimme…gimme…gimme!
adj. Slang
Demanding material things or especially money.
Payments to large coast cities prone to land subsidence and flooding like Jakarta and parts of Bangladesh would probably sink faster with payments unless those payments were diverted to Swiss banks with numbered accounts first.
Nothing we didn’t already know:
What pray will the west pay reporations with ? the wests debt can never be repayed now , the economies are stagnant and decaying , the US debt is $16 trillion and counting , world debt is multipals of GDP . Sorry we are broke , look somewhere else for a handout .
Only $16 trillion? It’s 27 or 28 $Trillion
Colonialism dragged nations such as India, China, the rest of Asia, and Africa into the modern age with in- built technological transfers in the form of roads, railways, ports, airports schools, hospitals, industries, democratic governments etc. etc. In many cases too, it ultimately stopped slavery and even cannibalism! At independence, they were all bequeathed extensive foundations for continuing necessary further development for existence in a modern world.
China is an example where self-help was provided with ongoing development accelerating to its present day status, and without foreign aid or well meaning paternalistic missionaries. They should at least be thanked for applying their one child policy which has massively reduced the ever-increasing global population: the root cause of mass migration policies and local poverty.
At the other end of the spectrum is Haiti, which has been independent almost as long as the USA, and countries like them, which have too often squandered their inheritances, leading to their development being stunted if not even fully destroyed.
Very many of these countries are sitting on massive cheap fossil fuel resources which will provide the cheaper power needed for their ongoing development, industrial expansion and wealth creation. Green policies will deny them the use of such national assets and will reduce the wealth generation of Developed World(Western) nations and hence foreign aid monies to the Developing World due to them being denied use of their similar assets!
Russia had to give up communism for capitalism, China has piggy backed capitalism into their country under a so called communist regime. Other “Red ” nations are acting similarly.
All the Developing World needs is honest and effective leadership, a lack of corruption and a great deal of self-help; nothing more!
If you can find any actual evidence that China’s murdering of millions has reduced the world’s population, I would love to see it.
Slowed the rate of growth.
“reduced” is just poor wording.
Not mentioning that! I’m talking about the imposed “one child per family” law! Given China’s massive population:, without such a policy the global population would by now have been a billion or more larger. Just look at the rise in far smaller populations in African countries which have not had such laws!
It’s very unlikely that China’s population would have grown by a billion more. It’s debatable of course.
Some suggest a similar decline in birth rate would have resulted from economic reasons, though that probably is not correct either since there is an abundance of males, due to sexual preference of the parents. In any event, they have instituted a “two child” policy since about 2014 in an attempt to adjust unbalanced demographics.
Until the Two Idiots – Nixon and Kissinger – decided to follow the visions from their shared acid trip (one theory about their actions), Red China was a third world nation. (The aphorism about not getting into a land war in Southeast Asia was apt only because 1,000 to 1 odds are just very difficult to overcome.)
They would still be a third world nation today – or, very likely, have degenerated yet again to a warlord state that would make Somalia look like a great vacation destination.
Difficult to say but pretty easy to imagine what might have been. Perhaps the KMT could have made a comeback.
If you read Kissinger’s “On China” you’ll see that we played “the China card” against the Soviet Union- the only real threat to America and Europe at the time.
Peter, something often overlooked is that there was not a single African language in 1800 that had been put into writing. I exclude the few languages in Africa that were of the Semitic language family. No written language, no books, no schools, no universities till missionaries like the Scottish gardener Robert Moffat arrived in the Cape two hundred years ago and began to remedy the situation.
The situation in China is not as simplistic as you portray it. If you were to look at the considerable contribution of missionaries for a century before the Communists took over and expelled them and undid their work, it is clear that this set back China enormously.
Rewriting history means discarding those whom their host countries most need today as good role models. It is shameful not recognizing that many of these “guests” made a far greater contribution than any of their current politicians ever will.
What have the Romans ever done for us, eh?
The free market frees people from “entrenched inequalities.” If you see entrenched inequalities, look underneath and you’ll find Marx.
More excuses for wealth redistribution from high living standard countries. Failing to produce successful economies the Marxist go for shaming Capitalists to share their claimed ill gotten gains.
“The Great Reset”
The following article points out that panic over the SARS-COV-2 attack caused lock-downs that are now widely realized to have done far more harm than good. It also points out that the same “modelers” involved in the Climate Alarmist modeling are in large part the same who started the Covid-19 scare by predicting “millions of deaths.” It goes on to ask (since sensible people would have seen thru this panic to it’s horrible end, is there is perhaps another agenda involved?
https://21stcenturywire.com/2020/10/12/australian-media-calling-out-davos-great-reset-agenda/
Saw it months ago
And yet so many are fooled into thinking this abject greed is somehow justified by following junk science …
Climate reparations? How bogus! There are far far worse problems in most nations than the distant and relatively minor “threat” of a slowly improving global climate (warm is good; CO2 is plant food) beyond what is natural and has been occurring since the beginning of time. It appears that everyone is clambering for a hand out with no strings attached, using whatever excuse they can create, while the self-crowned elites are thirsty for power. Who believes for a minute that such moneys would be put to good use. We have already tried that for decades via international aid, development, technology transfer, charities, espionage, military action, and the corrupt United Nations. If a nation is entrenched in their own form of government, to the extent that it appears to succeed in improving the lot of its people and providing human freedoms, then we might work with that.
But how about a few strings attached? There has to be some means of measuring success. Payments/aid (not “climate” aid), if any, might be contingent upon a nation convening a constitutional convention to create a freely elected constitutional republic, along with abdication of power by the nation’s despots, oligarchy and/or theocracy. Of course, corruption runs deep, with others ready to jump in to take power and sustain the corruption. We can’t simply wait it out, because in a vacuum some one or more internal powers or outside nations is always actively ready to step in to feed the beast to gain an advantage.
Recognize that fallen, sinful mankind will always create enemies within and without, so there will always be domestic and international conflict. How, after all, did many nations arrive at where they are today, highly populated, grindingly poor, ruled by corrupt leaders, even though many are sitting upon substantial natural resources? In the 21st century, that has little to do with colonialism, past slave trade in the West (ended 150-200 years ago), or predatory exploitation. Global socialism and redistribution of wealth is decidedly the “road to hell paved with good intentions” for those foolish enough to believe the siren call.
I’m curious AS TO how Saigon (Ho Chi Minh CIty – pffffttt!) could possibly be more waterlogged in the future than it has been since the Mekong Delta started getting built up. It’s more likely that the huge population of Saigon drains more water out of the delta for various uses than existed before the city was a bunch of mud huts.
I don’t know what the real issue is there, but has been draining the Ammanese Cordillera for a very, very long time and all the water from there, including the snows in the highlands, goes wallowing its way down to the delta to empty into the South China Sea.
This is all hogwash, just another grab for cash.
South China Sea level rise must be caused by the Chinese building islands there that didn’t exist before
😉
Where are my reparations for having to listen to all this nonsense about reparations.
The courts are deciding how to divvy up the legal fees first. Your gift card with an estimated $2.75 will be mailed out in a few years.
“By as soon as 2050, large parts of Mumbai, Ho Chi Minh City, and New Orleans may be underwater.
Over the next 30 years, the climate crisis will displace more than 140 million people within their own countries …”
BS !
According to AOC, the greatest climate scientist, the World will end within 10 years (+ or – 1 month).
“the World will end within 10 years”
….. so 140 million is a gross under-estimate 🙂
Remember back in 2010 how we had 50 million “climate refugees”, which is what was predicted?
Me neither. Oh, but now they’ve changed it to “climate migration” or “climate displacement”. When the facts don’t fit the ideology, move the goalposts until they do.
From the link to 5°C. temperature increase:
“Or maybe not. In 2050, the world could look back and see the pandemic as little more than a blip in a long and mostly futile effort to stave off global warming. Despite a temporary drop in carbon emissions from the 2020 outbreak, countries turned to cheap fossil fuels to revive their economies after the crisis. Carbon emissions soared and temperatures followed, setting the stage for 5 °C of warming by the end of the century.”
People just make carp up, and it gets published in “Foreign Policy – the Global Magazine” – of Graham Holdings {owned Washington Post newspaper until Jeff Bezos bought it}.
Propose a method of providing money to each of the world’s poorest people directly, with no middlemen and no international body to oversee the distribution, and watch all the support for this idea rapidly fade…
Haiti, Cape Verde, and Fiji face “existential risks” from sea level rise and extreme weather events.
Someone tell these guys Haiti is not an island. It shares the island Hispaniola with the nation Dominican Republic. So, why is Haiti at risk but the DR?
Complete gibberish, hardly worthy of any comment, whatsoever!!! Climatologist, Rod Chilton.
Famous movie lines:
Benjy Benjamin: Look! We’ve figured it seventeen different ways, and every time we figured it, it was no good, because no matter how we figured it, somebody don’t like the way we figured it! So now, there’s only one way to figure it. And that is, every man, including the old bag, for himself!
Ding Bell: So good luck, and may the best man win!
Benjy Benjamin: [to Mrs. Marcus] Right! Except you,lady. May you just drop dead!
Lennie Pike: All right, all right, we all agree on that. Now look, let’s be sensible about this thing. There’s money in this for all of us. Right? There’s enough for you, there’s enough for you, and for me, and for you, and there’s enough for…
[they all race to their cars]
Just remember, as we sit here, the ice is melting in the north.
“We will never have peace as long as we make war on Mother Earth.”
https://centerforneweconomics.org/publications/the-ice-is-melting/
http://blogs.nwic.edu/pavlik/files/2011/05/Oren-Lyons-article.pdf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRz2mih5-JU
24:45. “The economies of nations will be broken by natural disasters. Not wars. ”
27:50 “Value change for survival.”
Donna Meness October 14, 2020 at 11:53 am
Three links, no numbers.
Here are the graphs depicting northern sea ice extent from the first five IPCC reports:
Any body can see that the original data was chopped off and the remaining data was changed. It’s difficult for the average person to really know what’s going on.
Greenland is most probably losing ice, sea level is rising and the water has to come from somewhere, but it’s not melting, it’s way below freezing in Greenland nearly everywhere nearly all of the time. Ice loss is due to more icebergs calving into the sea than fell as snow years, decades or longer ago, it has nothing to do with temperature or human activities.
“ the ice is melting in the north ”
Reminds me of this:
“It will without doubt have come to your Lordship’s knowledge that a considerable change of climate, inexplicable at present to us, must have taken place in the Circumpolar Regions, by which the severity of the cold that has for centuries past enclosed the seas in the high northern latitudes in an impenetrable barrier of ice has been during the last two years, greatly abated.
(This) affords ample proof that new sources of warmth have been opened and give us leave to hope that the Arctic Seas may at this time be more accessible than they have been for centuries past, and that discoveries may now be made in them not only interesting to the advancement of science but also to the future intercourse of mankind and the commerce of distant nations.”
President of the Royal Society, London, to the Admiralty, 20th November, 1817 [13]
*13 President of the Royal Society, Minutes of Council,
Volume 8. pp.149-153, Royal Society, London.
20th November, 1817.
So – does ‘the poor’ have any appreciation for the benefits fossil fuels and the west have given them?
I’ll tell you this, I don’t owe anybody anything. Certainly, not for a carbon blood debt.
I want to contribute to the Green Climate Fund (GCF). Just send me the BSB, account code and password and I’ll do the rest.
A) in the first line of the article:
“was not communism”?
Or did you mean to state “was/is communism”?
Existential:
Sounds like Olúfẹ́mi O. Táíwò and Beba Cibralic are suffering from delusions or at least severe hyperbole.